[Goanet] The Priest, the Cook , the Guests & the Alcohol

2006-03-24 Thread Mario Goveia
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JoeGoaUK writes:
>
> The Priest, the Cook, the Guests & the Alcohol
>
> Now that police nabbed the 2 murderers, the motive 
> behind the murder seems still remains suspicious.
>
> Some questions still remain un-answered (and may 
> always remained un-answered due to the special case 
> or treatment as this is a church matter)
>
> The priest is 61
> The cook is 20
> The guests- Manish 20 & Amit 28.
>
Mario writes:
>
Joe,
As someone who hides behing an alias on Goanet, you
have now descended into the sewer with your vile
insinuations about Fr. Eusebio.  How did your twisted
mind even go there?
>
You deserve brickbats and rotten eggs because what you
have attempted is character assassination.  Without
the slightest evidence, just mindboggling speculation,
you are trying to rob a person of the only meaningful
asset he leaves behind - his character and good name. 
This is incredibly reprehensible behavior when the
person being accused, falsely according to those who
know him, is incapable of defending himself.
>
I find it amazing that the people who know him
personally, like Basilio and Elisabeth, vouch for his
exemplary character and selfless generosity, while
those who don't know him, like you and Afra Dias and
Godfrey Gonsalves, are busy besmirching his character
and memory.  
>
How would you like some total strangers to destroy
your name after you die?  Think about it.
>




Re: [Goanet] The Priest, the Cook , the Guests & the Alcohol

2006-03-23 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
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Gabe,

Considering one bloke is 20 and the other 28, they are
quite capable of taking care of themselves.

Anyhow, can we consider the possibility that the
priest was forced to offer them liquor under duress? I
know of people who cannot control their intake - one
drink leads to another, and even though the "patrao"
knows they're drunk and refuse them another, they can
get pretty aggressive.  I don't know about London
pubs, but in Melbourne, management reserves the right
to refuse to serve an intoxicated customer. 

Gabriel  from downunder.

--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 22/03/06, JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > The Priest, the Cook, the Guests & the Alcohol
> 
> RESPONSE: -
> 
> Dear Joe,
> 
> This goes for Godfrey Gonsalves as well: -
> 
> 
> The story told by the alleged miscreants is being
> taken a the gospel
> truth! We do not know if they were in fact served
> Alcohol?
> 
> We should be careful, to avoid tarnishing the name
> of the Priest who
> is dead and cannot now defend himself.  Here say, is
> not proof enough,
> that someone was a doggy person as far as his
> sexuality is concerned.
> There have also been stories about this priest being
> a caring and
> loving person. There are many priests that enjoy the
> company of
> youngsters; that does not make them paedophiles!
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> DEV BOREM KORUM.
> 
> Gabe Menezes.
> London, England
> 
> 







 
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Re: [Goanet] The Priest, the Cook , the Guests & the Alcohol -what rubbish!

2006-03-23 Thread Elisabeth Carvalho
Dear Joe,
The priest in question is a family friend of my
in-laws and they can vouch that he has never visited
any of them in their rooms even though he's spent
several nights in their ancestral house and there are
boys aplenty in my husband's family - all of who are a
lot more handsome than some pock-marked boys from UP
with paan stained teeth.

Secondly, you really believe that these two men became
"intoxicated" after two beers? Men from UP drink
battery acid for fun. Goan beer would be more like a
Margao bus-stand limonade for them.

Lastly since Goa government is so keen on proving
causative effect, such as AIDS testing will prevent
spread of AIDS, we can safely assume banning
consumption of beer will prevent future murders.
Expect a ban on beer pretty soon.

--- JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> The Priest, the Cook, the Guests & the Alcohol
> 
> Now that police nabbed the 2 murderers, the motive
> behind the murder seems still
> remains suspicious.
> 
> Some questions still remain un-answered (and may
> always remained un-answered due to
> the special case or treatment as this is a church
> matter)
> 
> The priest is 61
> The cook is 20
> The guests- Manish 20 & Amit 28.
> 
> The priest meets Manish for the first time at Margao
> Garden.
> That's where (whilst we were bachelors) used to go
> for fun etc as the garden,  for
> us and for many was a 'Cruising spot'
> 
> Manish visited the Priest at least on 3 other
> occasions.. and treated him well.
> 
> Friday the 17th March:
> The guests visited the priest in the afternoon. The
> Priest call them back at night
> Half of my friends abstain from drinking alcohol
> during lent season.
> Remaining half would not drink or eat meat on
> Fridays only.
> But our two guests were entertained with good meals
> and beer & whisky too.
> The guests n the cook are not used to drinking that
> was offered by the Priest.
> 'Padri aponn pita ani dusriamkui dita soro ? ani
> korezmant ? xi baba'
> 
> After meals and drinks they all go to sleep
> separately.
> But the Priest, late in the night goes to check
> whether they are fine and that's
> where the trouble started ???
> 
> Is the beer in goa is too much of alcohol contents ?
> or some more dose of whisky
> added to the beer ? If so, by whom and why ? The
> cook too had a peg of whisky (with
> added dose?) and he had a sound sleep that he could
> not even hear the screaming of
> the Priest.
> 
> It reminds me of a Pop Star/Singer who was accused
> of adding such doses to soft
> drinks so that his victims get intoxicated..
> 
> Some questions may never be answered.
> 
> Why they will kill some one who is so close to them?
> Merely not offering a job could not be an excuse..
> Why entertain guests at night (and when one was a
> stranger) ?
> Why serve alcohol ? (and to those who never had
> alcohol before).
> Why visit middle of the night (could be around 2am)
> ??
> 
> Now,
> Who is to blame ? The Priest, the cook, the guests
> or the alcohol ??
> 
> Whatever may be the case or the motive/outcome,
> there is always something to learn
> from.. 
> 
> Church should also make sure that there are no
> priests living all alone in the
> church due to health & security reasons and any
> other temptations that may arise
> while living all alone (due to frustrations etc.).
> 
> Now, will I get brickbats or rotten eggs for looking
> through one of the many
> possible angles ??
> 
> As said earlier, it could be any thing. Because
> anything is possible now a day. 
> 
> May the departed soul rest in peace.
> 
> 
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[Goanet] The Priest, the Cook , the Guests & the Alcohol

2006-03-23 Thread Jude S. Fernandes
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From: JoeGoaUk


The Priest, the Cook, the Guests & the Alcohol

Now that police nabbed the 2 murderers, the motive behind the murder
seems still remains suspicious.


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Re: [Goanet] The Priest, the Cook , the Guests & the Alcohol

2006-03-23 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 22/03/06, JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The Priest, the Cook, the Guests & the Alcohol

RESPONSE: -

Dear Joe,

This goes for Godfrey Gonsalves as well: -


The story told by the alleged miscreants is being taken a the gospel
truth! We do not know if they were in fact served Alcohol?

We should be careful, to avoid tarnishing the name of the Priest who
is dead and cannot now defend himself.  Here say, is not proof enough,
that someone was a doggy person as far as his sexuality is concerned.
There have also been stories about this priest being a caring and
loving person. There are many priests that enjoy the company of
youngsters; that does not make them paedophiles!



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TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM;
DEV BOREM KORUM.

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[Goanet] The Priest, the Cook , the Guests & the Alcohol

2006-03-22 Thread JoeGoaUk

The Priest, the Cook, the Guests & the Alcohol

Now that police nabbed the 2 murderers, the motive behind the murder seems still
remains suspicious.

Some questions still remain un-answered (and may always remained un-answered 
due to
the special case or treatment as this is a church matter)

The priest is 61
The cook is 20
The guests- Manish 20 & Amit 28.

The priest meets Manish for the first time at Margao Garden.
That's where (whilst we were bachelors) used to go for fun etc as the garden,  
for
us and for many was a 'Cruising spot'

Manish visited the Priest at least on 3 other occasions.. and treated him well.

Friday the 17th March:
The guests visited the priest in the afternoon. The Priest call them back at 
night
Half of my friends abstain from drinking alcohol during lent season.
Remaining half would not drink or eat meat on Fridays only.
But our two guests were entertained with good meals and beer & whisky too.
The guests n the cook are not used to drinking that was offered by the Priest.
'Padri aponn pita ani dusriamkui dita soro ? ani korezmant ? xi baba'

After meals and drinks they all go to sleep separately.
But the Priest, late in the night goes to check whether they are fine and that's
where the trouble started ???

Is the beer in goa is too much of alcohol contents ? or some more dose of whisky
added to the beer ? If so, by whom and why ? The cook too had a peg of whisky 
(with
added dose?) and he had a sound sleep that he could not even hear the screaming 
of
the Priest.

It reminds me of a Pop Star/Singer who was accused of adding such doses to soft
drinks so that his victims get intoxicated..

Some questions may never be answered.

Why they will kill some one who is so close to them?
Merely not offering a job could not be an excuse..
Why entertain guests at night (and when one was a stranger) ?
Why serve alcohol ? (and to those who never had alcohol before).
Why visit middle of the night (could be around 2am) ??

Now,
Who is to blame ? The Priest, the cook, the guests or the alcohol ??

Whatever may be the case or the motive/outcome, there is always something to 
learn
from.. 

Church should also make sure that there are no priests living all alone in the
church due to health & security reasons and any other temptations that may arise
while living all alone (due to frustrations etc.).

Now, will I get brickbats or rotten eggs for looking through one of the many
possible angles ??

As said earlier, it could be any thing. Because anything is possible now a day. 

May the departed soul rest in peace.


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