[Goanet] nri meet afterthoughts
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- The name of the coach was REDENTO - not Red Ant. Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA Goa never had a real hockey scene. It was the Africanders who made efforts to get the game going with six a side tourneios. On and off there was some league games. There were also summer camps conducted by a NIS coach called Red Ant from Guirim. The best performance by a Goan junior team was probably in 78. BC _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] nri meet afterthoughts
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Eugene, You must be kidding. Jerome Mendes' is the only association? I though Rene Barreto has another one. Maybe Vivian is toying with an idea of setting some other. Also there is a lot of noise being made by the Goan NRI Association with its website www.goa500.com Well, I wonder!!! Floriano goasuraj Check-out the Road Map for Goa at www.goasu-raj.org - Look at OUR DREAM ; OUR APPEAL therein Be PROUD to be a GOAN. Since I hear of only one NRI association in Goa, run by Jerome Mendes, it would be nice if this body takes the responsiblity of posting a petition on the www.petitiononline.com. .. Eugene Correia - Original Message - From: Eugene Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 11:03 AM Subject: [Goanet] nri meet afterthoughts -- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Here are some afterthoughts. As for hockey in Goa, it was the late Aniceto Fernandes, founder of Goan Sports, who formed and promoted both the men's and women's association. One of the charges against him was that he was based in Mumbai and running the sport from Mumbai. However, it was Govind S. Waglo who more ... _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] nri meet afterthoughts
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- - Original Message From: Eugene Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Here are some afterthoughts. As for hockey in Goa, it was the late Aniceto Fernandes, founder of Goan Sports, who formed and promoted both the men's and women's association. Goa never had a real hockey scene. It was the Africanders who made efforts to get the game going with six a side tourneios. On and off there was some league games. There were also summer camps conducted by a NIS coach called Red Ant from Guirim. The best performance by a Goan junior team was probably in 78. BC _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] nri meet afterthoughts
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Here are some afterthoughts. As for hockey in Goa, it was the late Aniceto Fernandes, founder of Goan Sports, who formed and promoted both the men's and women's association. One of the charges against him was that he was based in Mumbai and running the sport from Mumbai. However, it was Govind S. Waglo who more or less looked after the administrative side. Just to give the women's side, the players were not happy with the state of affairs. They approached Herculano Dourado to spearhead the opposition to the office-bearers and probably also to take over the association in the hope he would put the house in order. He couldn't do much because Shashikala Kakodkar was the president of the women's association. At least for some terms, the president of the men's was the director-general or the inspector-general of police, who is a freedom fighter and whose name escapes me now. It's ironic that Herculano is behaving more dictatorial that Aniceto was. So just as others who now want to kick-start hockehy in Goa and would also probably like someone else to take over the reins, they can't do much. Like Dourado is close to KPS Gill, Aniceto was close to late Kartar Singh who domminated India's women's hockey. In fairness to Aniceto, he did give hockey a push in Goa. But things deteriorated later on. Aniceto also played a big role in football with his very close relationship with Ziauddin, the AIFF secretary and also secterary of WIFA, and BM Parkhot and Unni. I met a couple of past women players and asked them what they feel now that the man that wanted to change the state of women's hockey has now ruined it. One of them was silent and the other just nodded her head. I have seen enough of Goa's sports, though not from close quarters. I had often had quarells with both Aniceto and Waglo. In fact, it was Kartar Singh who ruined my relationship with Aniceto. I and Aniceto never talked till his death. I paid a visit to his house on the day he died and also attended his funeral. Coming to Dourado, I feel the man could be more suited to sit on committees dealing with labour issues. But like many politicians, they have their fingers in different pies. In India, just as politics and religion make a heady mix, politics and sports is another giddy tonic. The NRI associations in Goa and Goan groups abroad, particularly in the Gulf, must demand a new set-up under Eduardo Faleiro. An online petition is one best way to start with. Since I hear of only one NRI association in Goa, run by Jerome Mendes, it would be nice if this body takes the responsiblity of posting a petition on the www.petitiononline.com. I am ready to draft one and sent to others who can want to take a look at it and make the necessary suggestions before posting it on the internet. Let's start the ball rolling. Eugene Correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] NRI Meet in Dubai - My Take -- Part I
The NRI meet in Dubai -- My Take (Part I) by Eugene Correia The reports on the visit of the three-member team from the NRI Facilitation Centre to the Gulf is not flattering. I have no information about the meeting in Abu Dhabi. The Kuwait meeting report by Rabindra Pimenta and The Emirates Evening Post report show that many Goans did not want to come and those who were present were not happy at the result. In a post before the team's visit I had echoed the same sentiments expressed by Godfrey Gonsalves that the trip is a waste of time and money. What made the Goa government to undertake this mission so early to the next Gomant Vishwa Samellan is beyond my understanding. I can infer that whoever suggested this trip wanted to come to the Gulf at the government's cost before there could be change of scenario with the appointment of Eduardo Faleiro as NRI Commissioner. Since Faleiro is still awaiting Terms of Reference to his appointment, as reported here on goanet, some wise members wanted to jump the gun and enjoy this joy ride. The Emirates story say how the Dubai meeting was conducted. I can go further and say that I was very disapointed with Herculano Dourado's handling of the meeting. Before the meeting I enquired with him about what would be the centre's position vis-a-vis Faleiro and he told me that they had met Faleiro before the trip. He also informed the gathering that the team had two meetings with Faleiro. However, he requested me not to raise questions regarding the issue of relationship between the centre and the Faleiro. I did not raise because at the start of the meeting Dourado specified that he was only seeking to hear problems and suggestions from NRGs. Besides, it was getting late and people were leaving the room because for many the next day (Saturday. I learnt about the meeting just one hour before its scheduled time 7:30 pm and that too from a person I just called to talk about something personal. The person told me that the meeting's annoucement appeared in Gulf News, which I hadn't read that morning. When a person asked Dourado to give background information on the centre, he began by saying that it was formed three or four years ago. I tried to point out that the NRI Facilitation Cell was its forerunner, but he cut me short saying that he will sit down and I can come and tell the people about the centre. His impatience to listen and also the tone of his voice made it clear to me that Dourado was going to conduct the meeting in an authorative manner. It was not something I expected of him when I raised a point of order. As I think of it and begin to understand his behaviour, I feel I shouldn't have been surprised at all. I will later provide examples to show how Dourado has ruled over some organizations to the detriment of the organization's interests. When Pravin, the person who sort of coordinated the meeting, raised an issue and asked the people if what he said was true or not, Dourado admonished him by telling him not to be a populist. Mind you, Pravin, as president of the Goan Sodality Group in the St. Mary's Church, went out of his way to get a church hall and also to get the church to make an announcement of the meeting, but both were denied. He said he called many people to come but few turned up. Dourado said that since no local groups could arrange a hall, the delegation members booked the hotel room from their own money. He said emphatically twice that he wanted to have the meeting at all cost to show that the team really cared for NRGs. But much later he admitted that the team found a benefactor in Nelson Silveira, who is known for his support of Goan football and also as the financier of the football team Vaxim Divar. Nelson paid the room's Dirhams 500 charge. Obviously, the team wanted to have the meeting at all cost or they would have lost face. One of the members told me before the meeting that they contacted the local Goan association, but found that it was defunct. I am not sure if the Goan Cultural Society is defunct but surely the association is not functioning as it should. This raises an important question: Why did the Goa government sent a team without sufficient funds/budget? It looked ambarassing and probably many NRGs felt guilty when Dourado began saying the team had decided to pay from their pockets for the room charge. Perhaps the Emirates Evening Post reporter took away the impression that the Goa government lacks money to provide sufficients funds to its official team. Many Goans in the gathering would have willingly given money to pay towards the cost of the room if Pravin or someone who was connected in organizing the meeting had approached them with a request. Pimenta and the Evening Post's reports inform the nature of problems raised at both meetings. Dourado, himself a lawyer, gave legal interpretations to some of the problems that related to land and house disputes, and provided his understanding of some problems that related to get high
[Goanet] NRI meet in Dubai
Here is the full report that appeared in The Emirates Evening Post. I have carried the report as is by Daniel P. George, who is the paper's chief reporter, erred in writing Felicitation instead of Facilitation and misspelled Dourdo instead of Dourado. According to the website, Surlakar is still a member and not ex-member. However, as Dourado explained the website has not been updated. I was quoted in the paper, but I will provide a personal viewpoint of the whole exercise tommorrow. I was waiting for the evening daily to be out and check what was reported. eugene correia Goans demand better treatment Submit list of problems to team send by state govt but expect no redress By Daniel P. George Dubai -- Even as Goans in Dubai met up with a three-member delegation of the NRI Felicitation Centre appointed by the Governot of Goa to pur out their woes at a hotel last evening, they were dismayed over the step-motherly treament meted out to them by their state government. In what turned out to be classroom-like exercise, the Goans were asked to spell out their problems to the committee comprising Brigadier (Retd) Ian D'Costa, member of the centre; Advocate Herculano Dourdo, vice-chairman of the centre; and Mohandas Surlakar, ex-Member of the centre. Dourdo, who took down the points and grievances of the Dubai Goans on paper, said he would convey to the government their problems and seek speedy redress. The Goans who attended the meeting did not seem happpy at the whole exerices even after giving voice to their problems. They were irked by way their issues were taken down on paper without any details, residential address or where they hail from. It was a big farce, said one Goan who did not want to be identified. They were wondering as to how this centre would address their problems without further details and whether this was yet another shopping rip as most Indian ministers and dignitatires resort to when they visit the UAE. There have been visits before by people to the UAE and they have come winded, dined and gone back but this is the first time a delegation reprsenting the Government has come here and we will represent your case to the government for redressal he told those gathered. The range of problems presented by the Goans included land encroachments back home, corruption in goverment departments and a lack of direct flight to Goa from Dubai. According to Eugene Correia, These issues have already been discussed time and again at the Gomanth Samellan held last year. All that the Goans want is a single window to address their problems when they visit their home state on a vacation. The Dubai placed on record the cheating of job seekers by unscrupulous agents, housemaids in jails, poor and jobless Goans facing a bleak future and lack of medical assistance to the poor. Dourdo assured the Goans their problems would be address icnluding a suggestion for a ferry service between Goa and Dubai due to the rising costs of air fare. Another request from a student was to do away with NRI quota in professional colleges and resort to merit system as the fees were too expensive for the average middle class parent. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
RE: [Goanet] NRI meet in Dubai
-Original Message- From: Eugene Correia The Emirates Evening Post... Goans demand better treatment ... Even as Goans in Dubai met up with a three-member delegation of the NRI Felicitation Centre *** Response: Felicitation Centre a Freudian slip by The Emirates Evening Post or by Eugene Correia? Eddie Fernandes _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] NRI meet in Dubai
Further to my enquiry regarding the Gomant Vishwa Samellan in 2005, I checked the nrigoa website and saw the following names in the Advisory Committee:- Committee Members Shri. Edgar Leo Martins, Portugal Shri. Zamir Khan, Saudi Arabia Mr. Rene Baretto, London Mr. Eddie Fernandes, U. K Humberto Rabindra Pimenta, Kuwait Victor Anthony Fernandes, Canada Victorino Pinto, Swizerland Alexander Menino, Kuwait Simon Xavier DSilva, Doha Qatar Thomas A. Pereira, USA Yvonne Pereira, Kenya Alex Wilson Coelho, Kuwait Shri. Ashok G. Bale, New York Shri. Surendra Vasant Borkar, Australia Ms. Karin Elizabeth Fernandes, Canada Maria de Lourdes Figueiredo de Albuquerque, Lisbon Shri. Joaquim DSouza, Dubai Shri. Ratikant Mandrekar, Abu Dhabi I don't know if Joaquim D'Souza attended the Dubai meet. The point here is that the the NRI Facilitation Centre could ask the above committee members to gather the complaints, grievances and problems and sent them to the centre instead of the three-member delegation making the trip to Kuwait, Abu Dhabi and Dubai. --- Here is the full report in The Emirates Evening Post. I have carried the report as is George, who is chief reporter, erred in making in Felicitation instead of Facilitation and misspelled Dourdo instead of Dourado. According to the website Surlakar is still a member and not ex-member. However, as Dourado explained the website has not been updated. I was quoted in the paper, but I will provide a personal viewpoint of the whole exercise tommorrow. I was waiting for the evening daily to be out and check what was reported. Goans demand better treatment Submit list of problems to team send by state govt but expect no redress By Daniel P. George Dubai -- Even as Goans in Dubai met up with a three-member delegation of the NRI Felicitation Centre appointed by the Governot of Goa to pur out their woes at a hotel last evening, they were dismayed over the step-motherly treament meted out to them by their state government. In what turned out to be classroom-like exercise, the Goans were asked to spell out their problems to the committee comprising Brigadier (Retd) Ian D'Costa, member of the centre; Advocate Herculano Doudo, vice-chairman of the centre; and Mohandas Surlakar, ex-Member of the centre. Dourdo (instead of Dourado -- eugene) who took down the points and grievances of the Dubai Goans on paper, said he would convey to the government their problems and seek speedy redress. The Goans who attended the meeting did not seem happpy at the whole exerices even after giving voice to their problems. They were irked by way their issues were taken down on papger without any details, resitial address or where they hail from. It was a big farce, said one Goa who did not want to be identified. They were wondering as to how this centre would address theri problems without further details and whether this was yet another shopping rip as most Indian ministers and dignitatires resort to when they visit the UAE. There have been visits before by people to the UAE and they have come winded, dined and gone back but this is the first time a delegation reprsenting the Government has come here and we will represent your case to the government for redressal he told those gathered. The range of problems presented by the Goans included land encroachments back home, corruption in goverment departments and a lack of direct flight to Goa from Dubai. According to Eugene Correia, These issues have already been discussed time and again at the Gomanth Samellan held last year. All that the Goans want is a single window to address their problems when they visit their home state on a vacation. The Dubai placed on record the cheating of job seekers by unscrupulous agents, housemaids in jails, poor and jobless Goans facing a bleak future and lack of medical assistance to the poor. Dourdo assured the Goans their problems would be address icnluding a suggestion for a ferry service between Goa and Dubai due to the rising costs of air fare. Another request from a strudent was to do away with NRI quota in professional colleges and resort to merit system as the fees were too expensive for the average middle class parent. = __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] NRI meet in Kuwait
Has anything bnen posted on the NRI delegation meet in Kuwait? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] nri meet
At the 2005 Gomant Sammelan I remember some members were identified as representatives of some countries such as Canada, Oman, etc. I am not sure if anyone representated Dubai. Can someone who attended this conference or know about this please inform me about their names. I believe they were appoinbted by the NRI facilitation Centre. I ask this because of the meeting I attended of the NRI delegation in Dubai. Though I will give my views later today, I would like to see what I said earlier -- that this trip is just a free ride for these three noble volunteers who are bent on doing so much for their NRI brethren and sisters. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet]NRI meet ...
Just forwarding a copy of a note received here. Feedback to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -FN Date: 14th July, 2003. A meeting of the Members and other invitees of NRI-Goa Facilitation Centre will be held on 17th July, 2003, at 4.00 p.m., at the EDC Board Room, EDC House, Panaji - Goa. The meeting will review the activities of the Centre and chalk out programmes for the current financial year. Agenda: 1.Compilation of Report since inception till 30th June, 2003. 2.Compilation of names of registered NRIs, General list of Goans settled abroad and their associations, list of Goan association/prominent Goans residing within India, list of persons taking interest in activities of NRI-Goa Facilitation Centre and a general Mailing list. 3.Identification of Cultural programmes/troupe to be sent aboard. 4.Identification of areas where NRIs or their Associations can help visiting Goans in their country. 5.Identification of Goan institutions and families who would like to maintain contact with people of Goan origin living in foreign lands. 6.A seminar on what we in Goa can do for NRIs./ What NRIs can do for Goa? 7.Preparing a CD/Video Cassette on Goan cultural life. 8.Publication of a book on Cultural History on Goa for the benefit of NRIs. 9.Any other subject with the prior permission of the Chair. Kindly make it convenient to attend. (A. V. Palekar) Member Secretary ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
