Re: [Goanet]Genuine meaning of Easter

2005-03-31 Thread rene barreto
  I am genuinly ashamed of the absolute
 uncritical internalisation of the
 evil
  of caste among some Catholic Goans and will
 do all in my power to attack
 it,
  including, pursuing it with the Vatican which
 is wholly against this form
 of
  racism, as well as raising it in the wider
 media. I am fully aware that
 this
  will not make me popular at all among some
 Catholic Goans but it is a
 cause
  for which I am prepared to nail my mast. As
 to Easter, it is indeed a
  Christian celebration, and not a Hindu one
 (as far as I know), in which
  caste is expected to play a part. Yes, as you
 ask, I do know the meaning of
  Easter very very well but this begs the
 question, whether you really do, 

I have NEVER claimed to know  the meaning
anything religious. I would prefer not to ARGUE
about a problem - I cant find a SOLUTION. We have
too many arguments on this forum ,BUT no
solutions. A couple of people on this forum
playing the same tunes and some of us dancing to
them ... 

 It looks that the majority of the Goans on this
forum do not care at all about the caste system ,
if they did - they would have got involved and
worked for a solution.




   rene barreto
 ==




--- Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I do endorse your struggle against casteism.
 Caste is there, to some extent,
 ingrained in our society. It is difficult to
 eradicate it totally from our
 minds and hearts. 

   Fr. Ivo - makes a very interesting statement -
he sates that it is going to be difficult .. Fr.
Ivo , can you please tell us how this issue is
being addressed in Goa - if at all and how ?

   Just asking .

  We do not seem to have the will to address this
problem - but just argue about it. 

   Just my thoughts. 

  rene 





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Re: [Goanet]Genuine meaning of Easter

2005-03-29 Thread Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza
I do endorse your struggle against casteism. Caste is there, to some extent,
ingrained in our society. It is difficult to eradicate it totally from our
minds and hearts. But I know that Christian message has been a leaven for
the traansformation of our society. Casteism, understood as lack of respect
for persons of so-called lower caste, is a sin (whether in the
religious/theological or secular sense), just as racism is. Today casteist
mentality is not so strong as it was in my childhood. Yet, I remember well,
our Catholic families would not allow us to speak of caste and dwell in it.
We had friends from all types of families, even among Hindu boys and
girls. Let us be united and fight against casteism and communalism...
Ivo da C.Souza


- Original Message -
From: cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: goanet@goanet.org; renebarreto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:29 PM
Subject: [Goanet]Genuine meaning of Easter


 Hi Rene,
 I am genuinely puzzled by your seeming uncertainty about my absolute
disgust
 of caste among some Catholic Goans. Believe you me Rene, it is hard work
 often presenting thoughtful/lengthy  material on Goanet, instead of
 one-liners, on any theme, especially, when I really do not need to be on
it
 at all for any kudos reasons.

 I am genuinly ashamed of the absolute uncritical internalisation of the
evil
 of caste among some Catholic Goans and will do all in my power to attack
it,
 including, pursuing it with the Vatican which is wholly against this form
of
 racism, as well as raising it in the wider media. I am fully aware that
this
 will not make me popular at all among some Catholic Goans but it is a
cause
 for which I am prepared to nail my mast. As to Easter, it is indeed a
 Christian celebration, and not a Hindu one (as far as I know), in which
 caste is expected to play a part. Yes, as you ask, I do know the meaning
of
 Easter very very well but this begs the question, whether you really do, i
n
 terms of reconciling Christian Easter with Hindu caste belief/practice
among
 some Catholic Goans!

 I am aware of your great fondness for many things Goan, and for this
reason,
 would not be too willing  to be hard on you on this or any other issue
Rene.
 However, please be reassured that my motives are absolutely genuine
 regarding anti-casteism which is akin to anti-racism, however uphill the
 struggle.
 Regards,
 Cornel







[Goanet]Genuine meaning of Easter

2005-03-29 Thread cornel
Hi Rene,
I am genuinely puzzled by your seeming uncertainty about my absolute disgust 
of caste among some Catholic Goans. Believe you me Rene, it is hard work 
often presenting thoughtful/lengthy  material on Goanet, instead of 
one-liners, on any theme, especially, when I really do not need to be on it 
at all for any kudos reasons.

I am genuinly ashamed of the absolute uncritical internalisation of the evil 
of caste among some Catholic Goans and will do all in my power to attack it, 
including, pursuing it with the Vatican which is wholly against this form of 
racism, as well as raising it in the wider media. I am fully aware that this 
will not make me popular at all among some Catholic Goans but it is a cause 
for which I am prepared to nail my mast. As to Easter, it is indeed a 
Christian celebration, and not a Hindu one (as far as I know), in which 
caste is expected to play a part. Yes, as you ask, I do know the meaning of 
Easter very very well but this begs the question, whether you really do, in 
terms of reconciling Christian Easter with Hindu caste belief/practice among 
some Catholic Goans!

I am aware of your great fondness for many things Goan, and for this reason, 
would not be too willing  to be hard on you on this or any other issue Rene. 
However, please be reassured that my motives are absolutely genuine 
regarding anti-casteism which is akin to anti-racism, however uphill the 
struggle.
Regards,
Cornel