Re: [Goanet]Portugal: how to get studies accepted by major universities?
In the morass that makes up the usual discussions on Portugal and Goa I finally see one that could hold some utility for the young Goans of today. Constantino who wears his avatars of Portuguese, Goan and Indian with great maturity and respect brings a whiff of fresh air. His email details several research collaborations that Goa University now has with universities in Portugal. They are all very interesting and exciting and will lead to plenty of future opportunities for researchers. The National Institute of Oceanography, Goa also has a few in the field of underwater robotics. These research collaborations are a consequence of the interests of the concerned researchers and although they do involve a lot of bureaucracy like signing of MOUs, rules concerning sampling in the EEZ of India and intellectual property rights for dissemination of data they do not lay down rules for recognition and equivalency of degrees and to some degree these are not necessary. These rules I think are laid by the educational bodies of individual governments and are important when one applies for a job or wants to further his studies but as far as I know very little is known about how an Indian degree holder can obtain equivalency of his degree or diploma in Portugal. This information assumes greater importance now that many young Goans armed with Portuguese citizenship are moving to Portugal. The Canadian government has an excellent website for the same. Is there a government accredited body that converts educational credentials from any country in the world into their Portuguese equivalents and states its academic equivalency in Portugal?. These evaluations are specifically requested by academic institutions, regulatory bodies, employers and government agencies. I think its information like this that José Falcão and many others are looking for. If its available and in Portuguese it would be of great utility if someone translated it without getting into the usual semantics of course! Other useful importance would be tuition fees for Portuguese citizens vis a vis non citizens, what examinations an Indian doctor would need to be able to practice medicine in Portugal or even how an engineer could get a license to say set up a consultancy business. I know of a young journalist from India who came to Portugal, liked it a lot, wanted to stay and assessed her options as a non Portuguese speaker. She got certification as an ESL teacher from an institute in London, found a job teaching English in a Portuguese university and lived happily ever after! So even examples like these would be helpful with more details than I supplied our course!!! - Original Message - From: "Constantino Xavier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:55 AM Subject: [Goanet]Portugal: how to get studies accepted by major universities? > > Caro José Falcão, > > It is an interesting question you raise. Unfortunately the research and > university cooperation between India (Goa) and Portugal are far from > explored. This is an essential domain in Lisbon-Goa relations, and only > ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
RE: [Goanet]Portugal: how to get studies accepted by major universities?
>Constantino Xavier wrote: > >PS: Portugal being a member of the EU and generally participating in all >academic and research cooperation networks, once you're in Portugal, there >is no major obstacle to mobility to their EU countries, provided you get a >place... > Hi Constantino, that is not absolutely true. Lets take the case of medicine, for example. The fact that Portugal might recognise the Medicine degree from the Goa University and lets suppose a Goan doctor gets his degree recognised in Portugal, that does not necessarily mean that he/she can then practice anywhere in the European Union. What is important is the primary medicine qualification - the first University degree in medicine (MB BS in Goa). The fact that a Goan doctor managed to get his/her MB BS from Goa recognised in Portugal (I suspect he/she is required to answer a few exams) does not necessarily mean that he/she can then practice in other countries of the European Union. If he/she then wishes to move to other countries of the EU, he/she will still have to apply to the other countries General Medical Council which will take into consideration his/her primary qualification from Goa and not the fact that his/her degree his accepted and recognised in Portugal. The only exception is if he/she re-qualifies and acquires another medicine degree from a University from a European Union country. In that case, then he/she will be able to work anywhere in the European Union. Best wishes, Paulo. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Portugal: how to get studies accepted by major universities?
Caro José Falcão, It is an interesting question you raise. Unfortunately the research and university cooperation between India (Goa) and Portugal are far from explored. This is an essential domain in Lisbon-Goa relations, and only private institutions such as Fundacao Oriente or in a smaller scale the Indo-Portuguese Friendship Society have supported the exchange of students, young people etc. The Portuguese Government, through its cultural delegation of the Instituto Camoes has hardly contributed to this exchange of knowledge etc. Perhaps the area of Medicine is the one where Goa and Portugal are better integrated. I have met young Goans (under 30) here in Lisbon who are doctors here, and have got their studies in India recognized by the New University of Lisbon (www.unl.pt), Medicine Faculty. Last year there was another edition of a Medicine Congress in Goa, joining Indian and Portuguese specialists. In other fields, things are less developed. There may be some punctual cooperation between major Portuguese universities and Goa University, but as far as I know only the New University of Lisbon has a formal memorandum of understanding signed with GU. Perhaps also the other main public university, Universidade de Lisboa (www.ul.pt). Goa University has also been conducting a study on tourism and its sociological impact in collaboration with the Universidade de Aveiro, in Northern Portugal (www.ua.pt). I think Alito Sequeira from GU is working on this. In general, academic contacts and recognition of studies are still too dependent from personal contacts etc. The Centro de Historia Alem-Mar at the Faculty for Human and Social Sciences (http://cham.fcsh.unl.pt/) which is a research institute on the Portuguese expansion, has had some contacts with Goan researchers and professors, they also co-organize the Indo-Portuguese Seminar on History. Narana Coissoró, Portuguese MP of Goan origin, heads the Orient Institute at the Instituto Superios de Ciencias Sociais e Politicias (http://www.iscsp.utl.pt) and has also been punctually engaged in the strengthening of these relations. The former head of Political Science Department GU , Peter dSouza, has also good contacts with Portugal, especially in the areas of Sociology and Political Science. So, depending on the are youre interested, either get ready for a long adventure in the jungle of paperwork or just try to meet up with a big guy. Cumprimentos, Constantino Xavier PS: Portugal being a member of the EU and generally participating in all academic and research cooperation networks, once youre in Portugal, there is no major obstacle to mobility to their EU countries, provided you get a place Message: 1 From: "Joseph Falcao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:35:17 + Subject: [Goanet]Portugal: how to get studies accepted by major universities? Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear All: Wish that you are keeping well. Has anyone in the Goanet either registered/recognized their studies (BSc or Masters) in Portugal or know the steps to get it done? Also, is it worth in terms of acceptance through out the European Community? Your insights are appreciated. Obrigado. Abracos, Joe Falcao _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Portugal: how to get studies accepted by major universities?
Dear All: Wish that you are keeping well. Has anyone in the Goanet either registered/recognized their studies (BSc or Masters) in Portugal or know the steps to get it done? Also, is it worth in terms of acceptance through out the European Community? Your insights are appreciated. Obrigado. Abracos, Joe Falcao _ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
