Fwd: Re: [Goanet] U.S.A should be spreading freedom
Previously sent on Sat. Jan 29, 2005 --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:14:49 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] U.S.A should be spreading freedom To: goanet@goanet.org Mervyn Lobo wrote: Seems like everytime the Americans are caught spying, they come running to Canada saying, Please help get us out of here. Mario replies: Mervyn, please stop embarrassing yourself. Canada now depends on its economic health on US trade and for it's protection on the US as well. Canada always shows up in a trouble spot well after the fighting is over. They could not even take on the police force in Rhode Island, leave alone the terrorists that are one mis-step away from a Canadian version of 9/11. I hope you don't run into one of those jihadis that Canada has let into the country, because he will cut your head off just as they did to Daniel Pearl and Nick Berg. You won't get any credit for your anti-American propaganda.
Re: [Goanet]U.S.A should be spreading freedom
Tariq Siddiqui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mervyn, Mario will respond by saying: Roy Hallums is a leftist anti-US, anti-Iraqi jihadist. He supports the Baathist insurgents. He probably faked his own kidnapping and the made the videotape himself. Mario replies: Tariq, I did not say any of what you predicted, so you were wrong once again. Besides, it does not matter what you think. The Iraqis have defeated your insurgent Baathist killers at the polls today and the world has passed you by.
Re: [Goanet] U.S.A should be spreading freedom
By the way, I'm sorry for Mr. Hallums but he does not belong to the US armed forces. I understand he was in Iraq on his own as a civilian contractor, so Mr. Bush is not the one who pushed him into any hellhole. Seems like everytime the Americans are caught spying, they come running to Canada saying, Please help get us out of here. Note: They do not run to the American President, they turn to Canadians :-O It happened to a group of Americans in Iran. It happened to Terry Anderson in Lebanon. Mervyn2.0 Ps. Terry is your neighbour in Ohio. After he was released, the US admitted he was a former CIA official.. __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet]U.S.A should be spreading freedom
--- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not asking for any help from President Bush because I know of his selfishness and unconcern to those who've been pushed into this hellhole. Roy Hallums, American being held hostage in Iraq. 25th Jan, 2005. Mervyn, Mario will respond by saying: Roy Hallums is a leftist anti-US, anti-Iraqi jihadist. He supports the Baathist insurgents. He probably faked his own kidnapping and the made the videotape himself. -Tariq __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet]U.S.A should be spreading freedom
Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not asking for any help from President Bush because I know of his selfishness and unconcern to those who've been pushed into this hellhole. Roy Hallums, American being held hostage in Iraq. 25th Jan, 2005. Mario replies: Mervyn, I hope you never cross paths with a jihadi on the rampage, who will slice off your head just as easily as Daniel Pearl, Nick Berg and probably Roy Hallums, here saying anything they tell him to say while pleading for his life. By the way, I'm sorry for Mr. Hallums but he does not belong to the US armed forces. I understand he was in Iraq on his own as a civilian contractor, so Mr. Bush is not the one who pushed him into any hellhole.
Re: [Goanet]U.S.A should be spreading freedom
I'm not asking for any help from President Bush because I know of his selfishness and unconcern to those who've been pushed into this hellhole. Roy Hallums, American being held hostage in Iraq. 25th Jan, 2005. __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: [Goanet]U.S.A should be spreading freedom
Gabe Menezes wrote: U.S.A Should not be adventurous Mario replies: Gabe, I'm not sure what exactly a Brit like you is talking about, whose country is one of the US's most reliable and steadfast allies, along with Australia, two countries we Yanks would die to defend without thinking twice about it. I think the US has not been adventurous enough. In Rwanda, Sudan, Ethiopia, Sierra Leone, Liberia, we should have been very aggressive not just adventurous. If you are talking about the new US policy of seeking out and supporting liberty around the world, why would a Brit like you be concerned, unless you have a problem with encouraging freedom and liberty? The only countries that need to be concerned are those who oppress their own people, have no intentions of giving them more liberty, and are a menace to their neighbors. The US has often been forced to intervene, without it being official policy. The difference is that Bush has taken it to another, more proactive level. The US has always provided immediate aid when Mother Nature is on the attack. Why should the aid be restricted only to Mother Nature's attacks and not when people are being attacked by others? Does anyone with half a brain dispute the fact that there will be more world peace and more free trade and prosperity the more countries there are where liberty prevails for all the citizens? Because of the realities of Cold War geopolitics the US has dealt with several right wing dictatorships over the years because of the the enemy of my enemy is my friend kind of theory. The Cold War is now officially over, and President Bush is going to up the ante with our friends as well. Egypt and Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are prime examples. That being said, this is a long-term policy, no one is going to go nuts overnight, common sense priorities will prevail, force will continue to be the last option, we are not going to destabilize a Musharraf if the alternative worse, like some al Qaeda jihadi who believes as Abu Musab al Zarqawi does that democracy is evil. How would that make any sense? Freedom and democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan will soon speak for itself, in a region that has never experienced such exhiliration. Why do you think the jihadis are committing suicide and fighting to the death? They can't stand the thought that they will no longer be able to brutalize people at will. If Iran wants a home grown internal revolution against the brutal repression of the Mullahs, so much the better. The US hopes that there are more countries that feel that way. Saves us the trouble and the expense. In Kuwait we kicked Iraq out, then went home. In Germany and Japan we had to rebuild what we had broken. Now they are our friends and allies. No one of goodwill who believes that people deserve to live free has anything to worry about. If you believe otherwise, you should be very concerned.
