[Goanet] Frank Moraes' books
Didn't know about these books by Frank Moraes, which I just stumbled across online. Apparently, they're still available for sale: ''India Today'', ''The Revolt in Tibet'', ''Report on Mao's China'', ''Yonder one world : a study of Asia and the West'', ''The importance of being black: an Asian looks at Africa'' and ''Behind the Bamboo Curtain http://www.alibris.com/search/books/author/Moraes,%20Frank FN -- -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] New garbage dumping site
The best place to have a garbage disposal plant is,infront of the Goa legislative assembly at Porvorim.Hope the concerned authorities will look into the matter. Joel Morais ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] FIRST PRESS RELEASE
FIRST PRESS RELEASE The 'Centre for Studies and Support in Ageing', of St. Xavier's College, Mapusa, is organising a two day National Conference on 24th and 25th November, 2006, entitled, Concern for the Aged: Society's Responsibility, conducted in association with the Centre for Research on Ageing, Tirupati. The conference is open to NGOs/institutions concerned with the elderly, as well as interested individuals and students. Those who are desirous of presenting research papers, or wish to participate in the conference are requested to contact the College office on 2262356 or email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] on or before 1st October, 2006. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Galgibaga lad directs hindi film Jaane Hoga Kya
Galgibaga lad directs hindi film Jaane Hoga Kya BY MELVYN MISQUITA PANJIM, SEPT 9 While Goans await the release of Jaane Hoga Kya (JHK) in theatres across the State next week, they may not be aware of the strong Goan influence in the film. No, theres no drunkard, barmaid or priest in the plot to suggest a Goan stereotype and the musical scores dont even have a Goan connection. But browse through the credit lines and a Goan name stands out Glenn Baretto, director of JHK. This is my first movie as an independent director, as I was earlier the chief assistant director for Mansoor Khan (Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikandar) and Ashutosh Gowarikar (Pehla Nasha and Baazi), Baretto told Herald. Hailing from Galgibaga-Canacona, Baretto (40) who claims to be one of the first Goan directors to have made it to Bollywood is upbeat about JHK, which stars Aftab Shivdasan, Bipasha Basu, Paresh Rawal, Preeti Jhangiani and Rahul Dev. He says the movie is a sci-fi thriller. Given Barettos influence in the movie, it was not surprising that Goas famed spots found some space in JHK. One of the songs, Kutch to hua hai, was shot in Panjim, Majorda and Palolem, says Baretto. Incidentally, one Remo Fernandes figures in JHK as a choreographer. But hold your breath, hes not our very own rock star, Remo Fernandes. This Remo Fernandes is from Kerala, says Baretto with a smile, as he anticipates the confusion. While Baretto admits that Goans prefer to watch Hindi movies on DVDs or cable TV, he says: I would like Goans to watch my movie in theatres, as there is nothing quite like watching movies along with popcorn in theatres, sums up Baretto. Source: Herald Online news edition. --- Forwarded by Julio Cardoso, a proud Galibagkar himself ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Wonder if Goa will remember....
Wonder if Goa will remember this editor on his 100th birth anniversary in 2007. Can cyberGoa/Goanet take the lead? FN Frank Moraes or Francis Robert Moraes, was editor of many prominent newspapers in post-Independence India, including The Indian Express. He is of Goan origin. Frank Moraes is considered as one of the legends among editors in India, together with others like Durga Das, Pothan Joseph, Kasturi, Mulgaonkar, Shankar, Chelapauthi Rao, Prem Bhatia, Edatata Narayanan, and Nikhil Chakravorty. Contents * 1 Lifesketch * 2 Moraes' books * 3 Author, celebrated journalist, editor * 4 Archives * 5 Frank Moraes Foundation * 6 External links Lifesketch Born in Mumbai, the commercial-capital of India then known as Bombay in 1907, Francis Frank Robert Moraes was the son of a Goan civil engineer. There has been consideration migration of Goans to Bombay for many decades. He spent his childhood in Poona, a city in central Indian now called Pune and studied at Catholic schools in both the cities. From 1923, he was at St Xavier's College, Bombay where he studied History and Economics, later moving to Oxford University (1927-1934) to study History. He was active in student politics, and edited the Oxford student newspaper Bharat. He also studed law at Lincoln's Inn in London, and was called to the Bar. Returning to India in 1934, he practised as a Barrister for a few months, and in 1936 joined The Times of India as a journalist, got promoted to junior assistant editor in 1938, and worked in Burma and China as the Times of India's war correspondent between 1942-1945. Between 1946-1949, Moraes was based in Ceylon (now Sri Lanka) as editor of The Times Ceylon and The Morning Standard. He worked as the India correspondent of several British newspapers, and in 1950 became The Times of India's first Indian editor, amidst a changing post-colonial situation. In 1957, the Indian Express (formerly the Morning Standard) named him as the editor-in-chief of this Goenka-run newspaper. Becoming one of India's best known journalists his columns appeared regularly on Sundays and Mondays in the Indian Express, while another column signed as Ariel made its mark in the Sunday Standard. He did some radio broadcasts and in 1961 he was appointed Sheriff in Bombay. He retired from the Indian Express in 1972, shifted to London as its representative the next year, and died in 1974. [edit] Moraes' books Moraes (1907-May 2, 1974) is the author of India Today, The Revolt in Tibet (1960), Report on Mao's China, Yonder one world : a study of Asia and the West, The importance of being black: an Asian looks at Africa (1965) and Behind the Bamboo Curtain. Other books listed here include Introduction to India (1945. co-authored with H L Stimson), Report on Mao's China (1953); Jawaharlal Nehru: A Biography (1956); Sir Purshotamdas Thakurdas (1957); Yonder One World: A Study of Asia and the West (1957); India Today (1960); Nehru, Sunlight and Shadow (1964); John Kenneth Galbraith Introduces India (1974, co-edited); and his political autobiography, Witness to an Era: India 1920 to the Present Day (1973). [edit] Author, celebrated journalist, editor In obituaries to his son, the poet Dom Moraes, Frank was called an author ... sometime editor of the Times of India, and an Oxford-educated lawyer who was to become a celebrated journalist and Editor of The Times of India. [edit] Archives Frank Moraes' archives are held in London, UK and comprise of notebooks and diaries; correspondence; newspaper clippings and typescripts of Moraes' regular columns, articles and tour articles; reviews of Moraes' books; photographs; drawings, illustrations and programmes; recorded broadcasts; papers of (his wife) Beryl Moraes; objects. His archives include papers covering mainly the 1930s-1974 period, and are useful considering that he worked as a journalist, author and editor during a crucial period in the history of India and a then just-being-decolonised Asia -- particularly between 1950-1974. It also contains his notebooks and diaries, dating from 1950-1974, from Australia and New Zealand, South East Asia, China, Japan, Pakistan, India, Africa, Western and Eastern Europe and the USA. Listings of his archives say it includes correspondence, professional and personal matters, newspaper clippings, regular columns and archives, reviews of the books he published, photographs from 1930s to 1970s, recorded broadcasts and the diary of his wife Beryl Moraes dating to 1962. [edit] Frank Moraes Foundation This news item in The Hindu newspaper mentions a memorial lectures in honour of Frank Moraes. It cites a Frank Moraes Foundation being among the institutions taking the initiative in this regard. EducationWorldOnline.net says the Frank Moraes Foundation was set up by demographer, social worker, academician and philosopher Dr. K. Thyagarajan in 1985 and instituted the Frank Moraes Memorial Lecture in 2002. It adds that Thyagaraj was an
[Goanet] Old saying for us Goan villagecar
Dear All Goaneters, LET'S TALK SOMETHING OLD SAYING or our nicknames as per Village vise. When we were small or young age we used sit together mostly rainy season when we unable to play out or at night and hear lot of stories our old Samai or Sapai or old folks used to tell us. Sudenly I realized and just thought of updating our memory or keep in touch to our old Goan History. Now when I read on Goanet something as below i.e. Eduardo/Curtorcar a dog or sunem and Raikar a tiger/vagh and Lotlecar a he-goat/bokddo and I can addd some Navelimkar thembe/drops Margaokar rats/undir Saligaocar cole/foxes Juvencar St.Estevaum bende/ladyfinders, Benaulimkar pisse/fools, Chandorcar redde/buffaloes and so on... (cirmindor/bampti/loffor/chorr/impte/duckor/padde/fotting/bebde.etc. We are from different Goan villages and each one must be knowing such saying. Let's share and add some more sayings for us here on Goanet just for our knowledge. Come on let us all join together and update ourselves. Nobody should feel bad about it. After all we are Susegad Goencar. Thank You, Deu Borem Korum Viva Goa Viva Goaenkar Long Live Goa. Goan Susegad Regards, Mario Vicente Santos Pereira, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message: 7 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 14:53:07 +0200 From: Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Non-Resident Goans Registration To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Eduardo, not Curtorcar, a dog, sunnem; he is a Raikar, a tiger, vagh; One who loves his sleep rather incontinently much. I am Lotlocar, a he-goat, bokddo. Alfred From: Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org To: goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Non-Resident Goans Registration Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:44:25 -0400 Either Frederick gets his scoops well before the news makers get enough time to prepare for the reaction to it, or Eduardo Faleiro and his NRI commisionerate are competing with the American FEMA for inefficiency and cluelessness. A request for registration at their email address takes you to a empty screen, while one expects some kind of user-friendly form to fill. Perhaps I shall send the NRI Commissioner my Pidu story or maybe the open letter to Valmiki Faleiro which may strike a chord with our Eduardo who shares the same family name as Valmiki. (Curtorkars, bah!) Not that I desire to register myself since I am not a non-resident Indian in the full sense of the term, but little things gives one a sense of what can be expected. Commissioner and former union minister Eduardo Faleiro has asked non-resident Goans, including from other parts of the country to register themselves at its email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. * -- Confidentiality Notice : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential to the addressee and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail, you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it in any way whatsoever. If you have received this e-mail by mistake, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message, and delete the original and any print out thereof. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism in the Church
I just want to add three points to this debate: One, the confraria has been stripped of much of its powers by the ArchBishop. All collection of money that was the unmitigated domain of the Confraria is now diluted between the parish priest (Fabrica) and the Confraria. For those who wish to know more about this, can read: http://www.mail-archive.com/saligaonet@goacom.com/msg00634.html Two, yes traditionally the confraria was probably headed by a select group determined along caste lines, today in many places including my own village(maiden), it is determined more by capability. I know this because my father is part of the confraria. Three, Vasco is notorious for its Gavnkar's feast. One which I can attend only by virtue of marriage. Since traditionally, as a human being I would have been refused this privilege, I always make it a point not to honour this event. I doubt anyone misses me in Church that day but I think every Goan should take a stand against caste when they see it in action. Let's start with the ads that appear on newspapers. Why not instigate a campaign to boycott newspapers that run these ads? selma. --- --- Mario Vicente Santos Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remembered some years before I was reading on Navhind Times there were such fights for Church activities and Cementry by Gauncars and Moradars in Cuncolim. Even the body of the Moradar which was buried in the cementry was thrown out by the Gauncars. Even there was an instant fight at Vasco Church while the procession going on. Such cases are still existing in Goa. This is not a rare thing. To stop this fights all people should be united and peaceful. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Frank Moraes and Dom Moraes
Reading FN's post about Frank Moraes who was an icon in his days at Times of India, brought back various memories of Bombay. Those were the halcyon days of Goan intelligentsia in Bombay. Bright minds like Prof Eddie Mendonca, Augustus D'souza, Menezes-Fernandes, John Correa-Afonso and their like, speakers and writers like George Menezes, Johnny Alves (though he was East Indian), revolutionaries like Gerald Pereira, activists like Victor D'Mello and Raymond Dantas, Simon Fernandes editor of Indian Express who lived just a stone's throw away, and many many more. These I remember as I came under their mental orbit or had contact with them as a young teen when you can be much influenced. Never met Frank or Dom Moraes, but one would have to be pretty out of it not to have followed their lives, works and idiosyncracies. Here is something I found about Dom Moraes that make for interesting reading, under Guardian Obituaries Dom Moraes Brilliant young writer, whose star, lauded by bohemian London, dimmed in later life Alan Brownjohn Friday June 4, 2004 The Guardian For Alan - best wishes for a voice he won't lose, Dom, were the words that Dom Moraes inscribed in a copy of his Collected Poems: 1957-1987, which he presented to me over brunch in his Bombay home one morning in November 1988. That was the last time I met Dom, who has died, aged 66, of cancer. After three weeks of British Council lecturing in India, with one lecture and several meetings still to go, my larynx had given up completely under the Bombay (now Mumbai) pall of pollution. But while I was on my way to Dom's stately, rundown Edwardian suburb, travelling in a taxi with his friend, the writer and editor Adil Jussawala, Dom had actually phoned a doctor and sent his servant out for a strong recommended syrup. Article continues He welcomed me warmly at his door, but with a kind of abstracted courtesy; pleased to be visited, but also shy, with an air of entrenched sadness. My diary records an impression that Dom, then around 50, was not happy with what life had delivered him. Dom had been born in Bombay; the background was Goan, he was the son of the author Frank Moraes - sometime editor of the Times of India - and his mother was a disturbed Catholic. He received a Jesuit education, but as a child, Frank had taken him to Australasia and south-east Asia. By the age of 12, he was writing poetry, and a book on cricket. Three years later, WH Auden read and liked his work, and, indeed, Stephen Spender - who first met him in Bombay - was publishing him in Encounter magazine. After two years in Sri Lanka, at the age of 16 Dom arrived in England. In 1956, he began reading English at Jesus College, Oxford. The following year, his first book of poems, A Beginning, was published by David Archer's Parton Press (which had published Dylan Thomas's first) and, in 1958, it won the Hawthornden Prize for the best work of imagination. Dom, the first non-English person to win the prize, was also the youngest. In 1960, he published Poems, and the autobiographical Gone Away, about his travels in India. The Brass Serpent - translations from Hebrew poetry - followed in 1964, and John Nobody the year after that. All were received well, Dom becoming a familiar and well-liked figure at poetry readings and in poets' pubs. By 1966, he had published Poems 1955-65. Two years later, settled in Islington, he published more autobiography, My Son's Father. But then the muse left him. He travelled - he was to say he had visited every country in the world - and wrote journalism, travel books and a biography of Mrs Gandhi (1980). A compelling study of Himachal Pradesh, a region of his own country he had never visited before writing about it, had kept me reading into the small hours a week before I visited him. In 1968, Dom settled back in India for good, only resuming the writing of verse in the late 1970s. In 1988, he published his Collected Poems, and two years after we met came more poems in Serendip. A third volume of autobiography, Never At Home (1994), was followed in 2001 by another poetry collection, In Cinnamon Shade. He also contributed to Voices Of The Crossing (2000), edited by Naseem Khan and Ferdinand Dennis, on the impact of England on writers from the subcontinent and the Caribbean. He co-edited The Penguin Book Of Indian Journeys (2001), and last year published The Long Strider. For television, he scripted - and sometimes directed - more than 20 documentaries. Dom's conversation that November day in 1988 suggested a feeling that his literary career had not worked out well, that it was somehow not suited to the times. English was his only language, so he had no connections with other linguistic communities, not even that of his servant, the gentle old man who now suddenly entered, not with the prescribed throat syrup but with a bottle of orange pills, presenting one to me on a plate. He was sent out again, Adil translating Dom's instructions for him. Dom's
[Goanet] Shutting Down Polluting Cuncolim Units Not Good Enough - Have Them Clean Up!
Hi Everyone, Just Shutting Down the three polluting units in the Cuncolim Industrial Estate is not good enough. The owners of these units should bear the costs of cleaning up the contamination they have caused or face rigorous imprisonment for life. Such heavy metal and solvent contamination caused birth defects and even death in the case of nearby residents in Silicon Valley in the 70s - 80s due to the contamination caused by early companie in the 60s - 70s. see link for details: http://www.pubs.asce.org/WWWdisplay.cgi?8501937 So before any such serious health problems come up in Cuncolim, the owners of these polluting units should be made to pay for and conduct the cleanup of the ground around the polluting units. And stringent EPA-type guidelines should be imposed on these units. The health effects of these ground water pollutants on the local population should be closely monitored. The bureaucrats and the politicians who sanctioned permission for these units to operate while continuing to pollute the groundwater with deadly heavy metals like Zinc, Cadmium, Copper and Nickel and deadlier solvents should also be thrown out of office unless they take responsibility for cleaning up the pollutants and have the area be tested to be contaminant free. Otherwise a Catastrophic Environmental disaster is waiting to happen and impact future generations of Cuncollekars living in that area. Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz, Velkar, IITian, Indian Harbour Beach, Florida. 3 polluting units at Cuncolim shut PANJIM: Three polluting unit at the Cuncolim Industrial Estate have been told to shut shop by the Goa State Pollution Control Board yesterday. Bowing to pressures from Cuncolim residents, the GSPCB was forced to issue closure notices to Sunrise Zinc Limited after it had decided to issue such notices to two other units - Nicomet Industries Limited and Karthik Alloys Limited. The Board found 15,000 tons of waste in the industrial estate, which can cause leachate and can damage the fields. It proposed to conduct ground water analysis for cadmium, copper and nickel. [GT] ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Contacto Goa
It is mindless statements like 'In Portuguese times we used to sleep with windows wide open.. Statement by one of the posters. I would first of all like to complete the sentence and say In Portuguese times( i.e.my time. I dont know about the rest) we used to sleep with windows and doors wide open AT NIGHT. Secondly I can vouch for it because I myself did it. Thirdly I beg to differ that it is not a mindless statement for me. It may be for you. Have a nice day! Richard Cabral Candolim ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Brazilians swing to Remos tunes (Rep ly ) Congrat to Remo U r Goan Great..
Brazilians swing to Remos tunes BRASILIA, SEPT 13 (PTI) It was popular pop and rock artist Remo Fernandes evening all the way when he performed for a select audience of top leaders from India, Brazil and South Africa hosted by Commere Minister Kamal Nath on the eve of the first summit of the IBSA forum here. Fernandes, a Goan, presented a mix of pop and rock numbers in Konkani and Portuguese, the dominant language of Brazil which shares a common history of Portugese colonization with the Indian state, and delighted the audience which longed for more from him. When he signalled the end of his concert, the audience shouted Humma, Humma, a famous playback song of his in the film Bombay. He promised to sing only on the condition that the entire audience should dance to its beats. Eventually when he did they lapped it up. The audience, including Brazilian Foreign Minister Calso Amorin, enjoyed every bit of it. Amorin took the floor accompanied by his wife while host Kamal Nath watched and the rest of the gathering including officials from South Africa and the Indians present joined the dancing. Minister of State for External Affairs Anand Sharma and National Security Adviser M K Narayanan were among the audience. At one point when a thirsty Remo drank water from a bottle, someone from the balcony shouted you drink feni (a drink made from cashew fruit) in Goa. He shot back, of course, in an equally lighter vein I dont drink feni in my office. Do you?, and after a pause added the stage is my office. After he finished rendition of a Portuguese Brazilian song, he got a chit from the foreign minister which he read out saying now the minister has promised that he will take personal clearance of his visa. He apparently had sought extension of his visa. The gathering gave him a standing ovation at the end of the concert that was held under the aegis of India Brand Equity Fund. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Of Myths and Kanneos
Roland, If you do not get Teresa Albuquerque's book, you could request her to send it to you. Her residence number in Bombay, is 0222- 6499005. If you can't get her there, she could be in Goa, in which case you could contact her on 0832-2273676. She's recently written a fantastic book on the history of Vasai, a far flung western suburb of Bombay, which under the Portuguese rule was called Bacaim. It's worth a read. Reena Roland Francis wrote: Gilbert, could you please tell us where the book may be bought. I would definitely be interested in reading it. Not from a health point of view (though who knows, I may be converted to old ladies' ways) but merely reading about stuff I didn't get the opportunity to be a part of, like you presumably did, on account of being a city slick and all. For Fred Noronha: I know that some of the books written by Goans that you mention from time to time may be available from Jerry's and Norma's (is it called the Old Goa bookstore) in Mapuca via a hardcopy catalog request. However does anyone maintain a cyber catalog comprehensively listing all books written by Goans in all parts of the world, contemporary and past with info on how to get them? For example I read the chapter on the Goa Inquistion written by Alfred D'Mello (son of the famous Froilano D'Mello) on Jose Colaco's website. It made for such rapt reading that it would be foolish not to read the whole book. I wrote to the email address of the author, but it seems that it was an old one as my note got bounced. The Goa Inquisition has me hooked. I am gleaning info from many websites on the subject and the more I read, the more my attention is drawn to the subject. It seems a fact that the inquisition in Goa was one of, if not the most cruel in the entire infamous history of the inquisitions anywhere in the world and I grieve for my Hindu ancestors who had to endure it. I sympatize with an RSS call for the Pope to apologize for it, just as the Church finally apologized to the Jews, the call made in retaliation for the visiting Pope's call to Indian officials to loosen up on the anti-conversions laws of today's India. Another one of definite interest to me would be Theresa Albuquerque's book on the history of Bombay and Bombay Goans. Really good stuff from synopses I read some time ago. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Brave Goan killed in Iraq
Whether one agrees or disagrees with the war, this is a very sad event. George From my friend Neville D'Cunha who fought in the first Gulf war.. Forwarding funeral pic of 19 yr old US Army PFC Nicholas Madaras, of Wilton, Conn. His mom, Shalini (nee Coutinho)is a Goan from Bombay, married to William Madaras (Greek origin)and settled in Wilton. He was killed in Irag Sept 3 in action. The state funeral was held 9-12-06. For more information google in 'Nicholas Madaras' and there are a host of web sites and tributes. Yahoo! News Photo http://news.yahoo.com/photo/060912/480/97ce44e8f0874e03b20001f64c8d4f00 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Remo wows elite audience in Brazil
Remo wows elite audience in Brazil By Indo Asian News Service Brasilia, Sep 13 (IANS) Belting out some of his popular hits, Indian rock singer Remo Fernandes wowed a select audience in the Brazilian capital Tuesday night, bringing otherwise protocol-conscious ministers and ambassadors to the floor and making a 'celebration' of India's nascent engagement in the region. Remo, who is from Goa, was the star singer at the India Nite organised by the India Brand Equity Foundation at the Porto Vittoria, a lakeside restaurant, for delegates from Brazil, South Africa and India to celebrate what India´s Commerce and Industry Minister Kamal Nath called 'a relationship and an engagement like never before'. Around 300 guests were present at the dinner over a largely Indian menu of chicken biryani, curried lamb, lentils, black beans preceded by an assortment of Brazilian appetizers. Among dignitaries present were the Brazilian and South African foreign ministers, other Brazilian ministers, ambassadors, businessmen from the three countries and members of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's delegation. The prime minister was not there, but others who were there were National Security Adviser M.K. Narayanan, who for once let down his reserve and was seen enjoying the evening, Minister of State for External Affairs Anand Sharma, Sanjaya Baru, the prime minister's media adviser, Navtej Sarna, spokesman of the external affairs ministry, and leading lights of the three Indian business chambers who are here in strength to explore opportunities in this region. Remo, accompanied by his band Pappadams, initially began by singing slower Goan folk songs and Portuguese songs that went down well with the Brazilian guests whose national language is Portuguese. But once he began his peppier numbers, like 'Yeh Meri Munni' and 'Hamma, Hamma' and asked the dinner jacket-wearing audience to join him, ministers and ambassadors took the floor as did many businessmen and their spouses and members of the media. Remo, who frequently broke into Portuguese, underlined Goa's 'Brazilian connection' by mentioning that feni, the local arrack, was made from cashew that was brought to Goa from Brazil. There was no doubt that India had made a splash in a country where it was hardly known before and both the Brazilian and South African ministers underlined the importance of their emerging trilateral cooperation that will take concrete shape with the first IBSA summit here Wednesday, attended by the leaders of India, Brazil and South Africa, the three largest democracies and rising powers of the three continents. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Promises? Reality?
Goa plans web portal for government departments 14 September 2006 The Department of Information Technology (IT), Goa, is in the process of drawing up a proposal to launch a single web portal for government departments so that e-Governance becomes a reality. The web portal will serve as a virtual link for the public to carry out transactions such as payment of bills, applications or issue of certificates from Government departments among other services. Nearly 617 services have been identified according to T H Rao, Director of Department of IT. With this a portal, people will have a virtual contact with government departments. People will be able to pay electricity or water bills, apply for issue of birth certificates etc. The project proposal is still in the preliminary stage, according to Rao. The cost estimates have not yet been drawn up. -- -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism in the Church
--- Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think every Goan should take a stand against caste when they see it in action. Mario observes: I have done this all my life and have the scars to prove it. Selma writes: Let's start with the ads that appear on newspapers. Why not instigate a campaign to boycott newspapers that run these ads? Mario observes: Wouldn't you be boycotting every Goan newspaper ever published, not to mention impeding free speech? I suggest a letter-writing campaign to the editors of these newspapers. With such eloquent writers on Goanet as yourself, Fred, Cecil, Valmiki, Helga, Ethel, Melinda, Vivek de Malar [haven't heard from him in awhile], George Menezes and Diana Pinto among others, this could be an awesome campaign. Post copies of your letters on Goanet, so that those of us less eloquent can join in with our clumsy prose. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Opmus
With reference to my earlier post on Goanet, I got two mails as to know what is Opmus ? In simple words.. It is a sort of uniform/dress to those who are members of the Confrad (Church Confraria ?) They/members are called 'Írmaos'. Membership is open for both males females but only males seen wearing the Opmus. There are different types of Opmus (colour) Blue, White, Red, Purple, yellow etc etc depending upon different confrarias within the same church and also depend upon the village caste system in the past (don't know if this still exist) One can see them wearing during the church feasts, other processions, funerals etc. See a pic below ( I think I got it from Pilerne net, not sure) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/243409407/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] The concept of a lie
Pursuant to the recent flap arising out of differences of opinion over the personality and political philosophy of Hitler , Frederick assumed the role of moderator. He resorted to tapping Wikipedia for a comprehensive meaning of the word lie in order to put the at times visceral arguments into proper perspective. This post in verse attempts to augment Frederick's enlightening views. In the context of debate framing Hitler as a bad guy Spinning acronym, synonym and elucidation Fred did try To reveal the appearance, essence and anatomy of a LIE Delving in its shape, structure, and implications let's pry It's misrepresentation, libel, canard, trying to get by Deviously misstating facts that make the Truth look wry Saying falsehoods prime facie Biblical people will decry ranked with the seven deadly sins it's a very close tie The 8th precept of the Decalogue to judge strictly by A lie deserves punishment where in Hot Hell we'll fry If caught, one would make every prude say my oh my Of course plainly the moralist's reaction is to say Fie Consider extenuating circumstances ere to judge we fly for dodging the Truth one may have a plausible alibi when unfettered imagination conjured has gone awry embellishing the truth 'till it appears unbelievably sly Is it devious subterfuge that bad when hiding an ally? Or discretely suppressing Truth in confidentiality a lie? Some facts undressed could make us redfaced to decry So does dodging the truth when good intentions imply for reasons of national security and pledges kept high Are such secrets undisclosed by exigency per se a lie? A bride on her wedding night sweet innocence does ply Using discretion to keep connubial calm appearing shy Would you query her comport on the bed she does lie? In the gamut of Evils when pure Veracity is not nigh yes, to terminological inexactitude it is a close ally Yet are backbiting, gossip, ugly censure not worse Sin by any standards of morality and decency to comply? When Malice's deleterious hurt makes Mankind's spirit die Then let's rather bid inhumane Truth a hearty goodbye Cheers Arnold Noronha ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Professional religious bashers????
The questions is: Peter, are you still a missionary? Are you still a missionary? Mervyn3.0 PS. Try and answer this before the cock crows for the third time. How do you mean, Bwana? Indulging in missionary work, conversions, being martirically dismembered grilled ... devoured... relished... ? Or, in self denial... like, limiting himself solely to the missionary position? AT ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Allowing Others To Walk Their Paths (2)
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This post from DailyOM is pertinent to the ongoing jousting on GoaNet. If more members understood that this forum is primarily for expressing their views and not necessarily for brow-beating opponents, we can have a much more enjoyable and productive dialogue. Mario responds: I agree with Kevin 100% in his sentiment above. I have no problem with what anyone chooses to believe as long as it is not verbally shoved in my face. I have friends of all persuasions, including atheists, and we treat each other's beliefs with mutual respect. The many religious people on Goanet have no reason to brow-beat anyone in the absence of the specious and unprovoked attacks on religion and specifically Christianity that have been the cause of recent verbal conflicts. However, those introduced to Kevin by his comments above may be surprised to find that he has been one of those who has, from time to time, snidely promoted the intellectual supremacy of those who individually believe they are more intelligent and discerning than the collective wisdom and sensibilities of millions of religious people and millenia of religious experience. For example, right after posting the seemingly conciliatory comments above, this same Kevin could not resist the temptation to post under the title, Re: [Goanet] Myths and Misinformation regarding Cancer, the following comments: a) This does not stop the faith healers or other religious leaders from accepting donations in return for (ineffective) prayers. b) Interestingly, prayer had a positive effect on the rate of immaculate conceptions;-) What makes this even more interesting is that Kevin, who is a vetenarian, is commenting on a facetious post on Goan kaneos as they relate to cancer by Gilbert, who is a Board Certified oncologist. Kevin joined Santosh and Jose, who are not trained oncologists either. Santosh even claimed in his response to Gilbert, The post appended below propagates dangerous myths and misinformation regarding cancer treatment in this public forum.. However, what Kevin seems to have understood before descending into ridicule, which Santosh and Jose seem to have missed, intentionally or intentionally, is the following key and serious paragraph in Gilbert's otherwise light-hearted post, which was as follows: The current explanation for this (statistical significant) observation is that the surgery depresses the immune system, allowing the tumors to now behave and grow even more aggressively. Hence cancer surgery has undergone and is undergoing significant shift. From big radical cancer surgery we have turned/flipped and are now into minimal/organ-saving cancer surgery. Laboratory studies on humans show that markers of the immune system are significantly suppressed after major surgery. In other words, what the Goan grandmothers thought was being caused by exposition to air, was in fact, being caused by a depression of the immune system. For those who understood what Gilbert was trying to say, there was no propagation of ...dangerous myths and misinformation regarding cancer treatment in this public forum. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Brave Goan killed in Iraq
Nicholas Madaras is an American hero. May his brave soul RIP. Heartfelt condolences to his family. Mario. --- George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whether one agrees or disagrees with the war, this is a very sad event. George. From my friend Neville D'Cunha who fought in the first Gulf war.. Forwarding funeral pic of 19 yr old US Army PFC Nicholas Madaras, of Wilton, Conn. His mom, Shalini (nee Coutinho)is a Goan from Bombay, married to William Madaras (Greek origin)and settled in Wilton. He was killed in Irag Sept 3 in action. The state funeral was held 9-12-06. For more information google in 'Nicholas Madaras' and there are a host of web sites and tributes. Yahoo! News Photo http://news.yahoo.com/photo/060912/480/97ce44e8f0874e03b20001f64c8d4f00 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Another Kaneo .. or is it .. Hot Air?
My apologies to the few who found my writings making the practice of good medicine both controversial and misleading. Some had their sodanchem confusaum muree. I tried to inform Goans about the current standard of cancer care without demagoging the facts. Is this not, what a bulletin board is meant to do? I notice quite a few doctors were in the forefront in their attacks on religion. Yet when it comes to abuses in medicine, they are silent. Or they may voice concern about confusing Goan readers by alerting them about poor medical practices. It was interesting to see Kevin corroborate with his readings of the immune system stimulated via a multitude of modalities like meditation and prayer. Now instead of maligning yesterday's mauxis for their kaneo, why do not today's xapais provide explanations of today's observations? Or would we have to go to the Xapotam web site for that? Kind Regards, GL Kevin Saldanha [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Both you and Jose appear to have missed the gist of Gilbert's post. The influence of the immune system in self-healing is evident in many studies and it can be stimulated via a multitude of modalities like meditation and prayer. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Of Nicknames and Goans
Bannalkar pixe? Ani Moiddekar konnu? Well, Santos Pereira, that was a welcome change from the habitual cats-n-dogs stuff we are treated to in this forum. Yeah, for a change, why can't we laugh together at what makes us so typically ONE in our Goan-ness? Wasn't it the great ManoharRai SarDessai who sang in one of his Konkani poems: The Goan is a Hindu, a Kristanv, a Moir (Muslim) here in Goa. (Read also Bamonn, Chadd'do, Sudir). Out of Goa he is all Goan? Somehow, (at least some) Goanetters seem to belie our great man and many other greats who stood for and were ready to die for whatever unites Goans. Would that we at least attempted to follow them! Coming to our village sobriquets (isn't this so very unique of us, Goans?), I could come up with a few more in a couple of days. Would need to consult some Filsu Mauxi ... For now, I have already hinted at the Moiddekars! And what about some of the nicknames in our villages? In my village, for example, some of the famous characters connected with my childhood were Xempeam Mingueli, Mui Ruzar, Bena-peri-zuanv (whatever that means!), Dentt, Kolo, Chunvlli, Xenddio, Botto (Bannalkars out there, do you hear any bells?) And in the vicinity of Benaulim, there was Unddea Ord (half a bread loaf) and Fuskeam Pai (I need not translate that)! Well, if others are game, we could have a a truckload of them here, with malice towards none! To end, Mario Vicente, are you a Bannalkar by any chance? The only Santos Pereira family I know is from my village ... Moi-mogan, Joaquim. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Wonder if Goa will remember....
Frederick \FN\ Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Wonder if Goa will remember this editor on his 100th birth anniversary in 2007. Can cyberGoa/Goanet take the lead? FN Between 1946-1949, Moraes was based in Ceylon (now Sri Lanka) as editor of The Times Ceylon and The Morning Standard. He worked as the India correspondent of several British newspapers, and in 1950 became The Times of India's first Indian editor, amidst a changing post-colonial situation. In 1957, the Indian Express (formerly the Morning Standard) named him as the editor-in-chief of this Goenka-run newspaper. Fred, There's a small gap in this account. On returning from Ceylon in 1949, Frank Moraes was named editor of The National Standard, a Goenka-owned newspaper that later morphed into The Indian Express. At that time I was on the news copy desk as well as being the music critic, and remember him as an individual who kept himself aloof, quite unlike other editors I have worked with. Six days a week he wrote the main editorial and a column he signed as Atticus. He left within months to be the editor at the Times of India. In January 1953 the Times offered me a job as Sunday editor at their soon to be started Calcutta edition, and when opening press night rolled around in February, a group of top newsmen from the parent Bombay paper descended on us, led by Moraes. They had a big bash in the evening at one of the top hotels, at which if I remember right the Governor and local politicos were wined and dined, while we working stiffs stayed back to put the paper together. Well after midnight I was down in the pressroom okaying pages as they were being made up on the stone---those were the days of metal type and printers' ink---and in rolled Frank Moraes at thehead of his cohort, and he had just a one-line mantra for me: Let's get the paper out! Let's get the paper out! Having said that, he kept out of our way. Others in the group, however, were more obtrusive, and soon we had to hustle them back upstairs. Perhaps Frank Moraes's great strength lay in doing his own job---the writing of editorials---extremely well, and leaving the rest alone. When I say he seemed aloof, even remote at times, I must also say that he did not interfere in our work. In one sense, he inspired me, because soon after he left the National Standard I began writing editorials and the Atticus column as well. If asked to describe Frank Moraes in one word, I would say: Gentleman. Allow me two more, and I'll change that to A thorough gentleman. Smoke might escape his lips, but a crude word? Never. Victor Rangel-Ribeiro ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Cry and the world cries with you
My uncle Paixao (pronounced Pashao) was the third and dominant figure of the unholy family trinity of Paixao, Exaltacao and Visitacao - the Passion, the Exaltation and the Visitation. If I was not so closely related to them, the irony of this trio would have struck me speechless. However, Goan families being hush-hush in such matters, I would learn of the skeletons in the family cupboard only years later and that too by mere chance, from the local pedho (gravedigger) who was too drunk to hold the secret. Common knowledge, though not to me, was that Passion who was Exaltation's older brother, in his youthful days was Visitation's beau until the time she was Exalted (meaning shotgunned by Exaltation, a man who saw no finery in courtship) and therefore rushed into marriage with him by her parents before Passion could be served the second course. However Passion bore no grudges towards his brother for jumping his gun and in the fuller scheme of things decided that since he couldn't have Visitation, he would have every other pair of skirts who had the misfortune of coming his way. A sort of revenge on the world one might say. Passion worked for the Agriculture department in the Portuguese Goa administration and with the aid of his Agricultural Science Degree obtained in Bellary in far-away Mysore, (in those days when you were unfit for any other post-secondary discipline, you were sent into agriculture) and with his natural charm which was appreciated by the wives of his Portuguese bosses, he soon rose to Assistant Deputy Chief Agricultural Inspector of Salcete. He was of course offered an equally hollow position with the Banco Nacional Ultramarino, another refuge or dharamshala of the useless scion of influential and landed Goan families. He was offered the bank position even though mine was neither influential nor landed, but had 2 priests which was equivalent to the same thing. He preferred agriculture since it afforded him a chance to get free liquor from errant landowners and roam around at will in his Govt-issue Volvo (no bigger than a Peugeot in those days), making trysts with all those man-hungry, field-working country girls. Compared to this, why take a job sitting on a corner desk in the Ultramarino's Margao branch, even though one would have to make no more than 3 to 5 entries in some musty ledgers the entire day. Passion, was if nothing else, an egalitarian in the matter of women. Salcete or Bardez, village bred or town schooled, native, mestizo or Portuguese, meant nothing tro him. So Paixao lived a full life, but his Brazilian cigars (they are stronger than the Cuban), a penchant for garrafaos of the local brew and his philandering, eventually took its toll and one day in the rainy month of August, he passed from this world, onto the journey to his maker, who we hope would remember Paxao's faithful churchgoing and lusty baritone at all village novenas, and forget that he breathed his last in in the arms of the wife of the local regedor (village headman) who was a rather fat and demanding woman. Now Paixao was no mineowner, but he left a tidy sum behind, as he had little ocassion to spend his generous salary, all his neccessities of daily living being met by either said errant landwoners or the said grateful country girls. So when his will was read by Exaltation and Visitation his most trusted relatives, he specified certain details of his burial, one of which was to have no less than 15 professional mourners. To those of you not in the know, in the lazy, hazy and glory days of Portuguese Goa, funerals were a thing of great pomp and elegance. While on a scale of one to ten weddings were nine and a half, funerals claimed at least an eight. And having a paid mourner was as much a status symbol as having a Burma teakwood coffin. Sorry for their tantrums, as they approached the church they cried in such loud unison that all the processionists couldn't help but join in. Hearing such a loud noise pade-vigar rushed outside the church and joined in, not to be outdone. The professionals had by now stopped, but the crowd didn't. The yelling and crying continued throughout the brief service and into the cemetry. By now they were crying for their own misfortunes that life had dealt them and Uncle Paixao would have all been been forgotten had it not been for his brother who wished to return to the bottle he so reluctantly left behind in the house. The funeral is remebered in Orlim even today and anyone you meet there will tell you how when you cry, the world cries with you. Paixao's funeral was to start at a leisurely 11 o'clock in the morning of a day that was excessively hot in temperature. The cortege was to leave from his vast home (a gift from the Agriculture Dept for his yeoman services, even though such yeoman services were never spelt out), in the village of Orlim which is flanked by Varca on one side and Carmona on the other. The Brass Band of Betalbatim was there early, having been promised a
Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism in the Church - confraria is still supreme ??
Dear Joe, Actually this is an interesting discussion because it is sort of parallel to separation of church and state. Now, the wily Portuguese probably had a good reason for making the Confraria supreme as opposed to the Parish priest, but like any body with powers vested in them, they tend to abuse these powers. I agree with you that a Confraria can be corrupt to the point of stealing from the Church itself. It does have a few checks and balances in places, but by and large these can be manipulated. There have been instances of Confraria members taking valuable statues to their homes for safe keeping, etc. The Confraria has been stripped of certain collections, specially during festa time. This has given rise to a whole new problem. These collections now go to the priest, who is often as corrupt as any member of the Confraria. He has even less audit-accountability than a confraria and on many occasions, his relatives live in the lap of luxury while the Church property dilapidates. This incidentally was one of the chief reasons for incorporating celibacy into the Catholic Church law. That often, Church property was passed down from generation to generation when priests could actually marry and the Church was having none of that. Selma --- --- JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In view of above, I dont think the confraria has been stripped of much of its powers, as said. I guess lot more has to be done by the authorities to sort out this age old mess. The whole thing also reminds me of so called dirty politics Note: Would appreciate if any one could tell me where the victim can go for justice now ? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Myths and Misinformation regarding Cancer
Kevin Saldanha [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Both you and Jose appear to have missed the gist of Gilbert's post. Hi Kevin, Sorry, I don't think so. That post was under the Science and Religion thread. It made the following unsupported and frivolous claims, and I paraphrase (Please see the original post again): 1. A modern scientific experiment in mice has shown that an old grandmother's kaannee about cancer surgery causing a cancer to spread was accurate. 2.Only a pseudo-scientist would ignore the observations from grandmother's kaanneo. 3. When doctors do not know what is going on, they call it the immune system, instead of calling it the soul, inner strength, God within, etc. But for a supurlo Goenkar like Gilbert there is no difference between these terms. 4. People all over the world, over the last 5000 years, had similar perspectives on this issue as doctors today. 5. Gilbert has seen quite a few Goans get ill due to disregard of grandmother's kaanneo. 6. Gilbert has provided the scientific basis of some Goan myths and grandmother's kaanneo in his book on Goa. I hope you get the correct gist of his post. Please read the latest review articles to find out about the effects of surgical stress on the immune system and the role of aggressive cancer surgery in different types of cancer, e.g. in ovarian cancer. Also, I am sure you know that a good book on modern immunology would tell you how much knowledge about the immune system at the molecular, cellular and systems level, has accumulated just over the last 10 years. Cheers, Santosh ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Another Kaneo .. or is it .. Hot Air?
--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice quite a few doctors were in the forefront in their attacks on religion. Yet when it comes to abuses in medicine, they are silent. Or they may voice concern about confusing Goan readers by alerting them about poor medical practices. In my post entitled Myths and Misinformation regarding Cancer, rather than remaining silent, I provided an example of an abuse in medicine. I showed how modern medical facts were distorted and misrepresented in a public forum under a thread entitled Science as Religion / response to Fred. I hope doctors, as well as non-doctors, continue to expose such abuses in medicine. Cheers, Santosh ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism in the Church
Selma writes: Let's start with the ads that appear on newspapers. Why not instigate a campaign to boycott newspapers that run these ads? Mario observes: Wouldn't you be boycotting every Goan newspaper ever published, not to mention impeding free speech? Cecil thinks: It's easy to blame newspapers and church authorities and 'the system', rather than blame ourselves. If you see an unethical advert for a product or a service you would boycott the advertiser and not the medium that carried the advert. Think on similar lines for caste-specific Catholic matrimonial adverts. Write nasty e-mails to the Chardo Marine Engineer Boy and tell him to grow up into a Man. Phone the Homely Brahmin Graduate Girl and tell her that her pimples will keep increasing. Contact the parents of these pathetic casteist bachelors and spinsters and inform them that the world has moved on. They're not likely to be educated or enlightened immediately but at least they will get the message that mentioning caste in matrimonial adverts only shows their depravity and blinkered vision! Cheers! Cecil === -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Frank Moraes and Dom Moraes
A small correction in the Guardian obit on Dom: His book was on Madhya Pradesh, not Himachal. Its title is 'Answered by Flutes: Reflections from Madhya Pradesh'. -- RKN ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Teresa Albuquerque and thanks to Reena Martins
Reena, much appreciate your assistance and direction to getting Teresa Albuquerque's books. Spoke to her in Bombay a few minutes ago and asked for her to send all her 10 books. She mentioned that she has written 10 so far, 2 under publishing. She seems like a Goan no-nonsense Susan B Anthony, but much kinder. We spoke about several things and she mentioned that you had once interviewed her. Her main interest is Goan migration and has written books about Goans in Kenya, Bombay and elsewhere. She is writing a sequel to her Vasai (Bassein) book. She mentioned she was from Anjuna and has written a book about the history of the Anjuna Church with photos of the artifacts in it. That's really odd, as my late uncle was the pastor (parish priest) in that church for many years (he is a Lotlekar like our Alfred Tavares) and I have memories of his showing me with great reverence the souvenirs (is that the word I am looking for?) of Blessed Pe Agnel Vaz who was from Anjuna. It has great pictures she said, which I immediately thought of as grist for the Goan Cyber Museum. Wonder of wonders, she is neither a historian nor of any other profession, only (sorry that's not the right word) a housewife (and she says that proudly) with 6 or 7 children some of them in this part of the world. I look forward to reading her books, thanks again to you. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism in the Church - confraria is still supreme ??
So, instead of democratising the institution, would a take-over of it make sense? Selma's link was interesting... and I was surprised she had found it even though I failed to notice it myself or its implications Just shows how issues which affect Goa in a major, major way are often just swept under the carpet and not even given the attention these deserve. With apologies to Eric Raymond's Given enough eyeballs all (computer) bugs are shallow, let's paraphrase to say Given enough eyeballs, it's easy to understand many an issue in cyberspace! --FN Re: [Goanet] Will any Goanre casteism in the Church I just want to add three points to this debate: One, the confraria has been stripped of much of its powers by the ArchBishop. All collection of money that was the unmitigated domain of the Confraria is now diluted between the parish priest (Fabrica) and the Confraria. For those who wish to know more about this, can read: http://www.mail-archive.com/saligaonet@goacom.com/msg00634.html -- -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goanet writers
The Goanet writers: Reading Arnold Noronha is like reading Dostoevsky. One is reminded of those bleak Russian winters. Reading Alfred de Tavares is like reading Coleride. Water, water, everywhere and I want every precious drop to drink (to slighly misquote Coleride) Reading Cecil Pinto is like reading Lord Byron. Mad, Bad and dangerous to know. With apologies to Lady Caroline Lamb. Reading Frederick Noronha is like reading Amartya Sen interviewing Bill Gates. The Political Economy of megabytes. Reading Roland Francis is like reading Somerset Maugham. The Flotsam and the Jetsam made interesting by the skill of the pen. Reading Mario is like reading the US Republican Political manifesto dictated by Cheney and typed out by Anne Coulter. Reading Gilbert is like reading Egyptian hieroglyphics before they found the Rosetta stone. I love reading all of you (sorry if I've missed someone) :)) Selma __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
