[Goanet] Goanet News Headlines: Oct 10, 2006: Maintain status quo on IT park, High Court orders
* Maintain status quo on IT park, High Court orders. (H) * Tourism sector fears controls on Zuari bridge. (H) * Business community jittery over delays in lifting Zuari bridge curbs. (NT) * Herald turns 106. Critical voices on Goa media http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/11523 * Margao builders face music of Directorate of Health Services. (H) * Union minister Dasmunish endorses Goa's role in IFFI. (H) * Panjim police barracks perfect site for malaria. (H) * Mahadei issue: Govt called to expedite all-party trip to Delhi. (H) * Spanish pilgrims visit Old Goa. (H) * National legal aid week from today. (H) * New police chief (DGP) gives State's intelligence quotent 10/10. (H) * Power dept "depriving Benaulim prawn hatchery of transformer. (H) * Spanish comedy to open IFFI. (H) * Suresh Parulekar quits BJP: Calangute. (H) * Karwar accuses Goan fishermen of being careless. (H) * Goa Dir of Arts & Culture plg film appreciation workshops. (H) * Exhibition of crosses being held at Fundacao Oriente. (NT) * Unseasonal October rains affect Goa paddy crop. (NT) * Sand extractors allege harassment by mines dept staff. (NT) * Portuguese singing contest held at Kala Academy. (NT) * Don Bosco Community College inaugurated at Loutolim. (NT) * Second dengue case reported in Goa. (GT) * AND NOW: Herald NewsLine, the electronic division of Herald Publications Publications Pvt Ltd is looking for anchors, reporters, editors and marketing executives. (Advt) * TEARFUL FAREWELL: Residents of Quepem and surroundings bid a tearful aideu to three members of the Fernandes family, who died while walking on a footpath, returning home after dinner at Santa Clara, US. Mackson Fernandes, wife Sharina and son Nash (3) all died in the mishap. The accident occurred after a lady car driver had a severe heart attack while driving, making her lose control, at 9.50 pm on Sept 22. Late Mackson was the only son, and hailed from Sonarbhat, Quepem. His father had died when he was just 13. (Navhind Times) * "Been there, done that," is what Laury Pires will say, as he looks back at almost four decades of music in Goa. Along with a handful of people, Laury is a living example of Goa's heyday as a music destination, writes Kurt Gidwani in the Gomantak Times. * GOANET SUPPORTS ALUMNI INITIATIVES: Do you have a story to share about your school days at St Britto's or St Mary's in Mapusa? Share with http://groups.yahoo.com/group/brittos http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stmarysgirlsmapusa/ * ART GALLERIES IN GOA Casa Goa, Cobravaddo Calangute Art Chabmers, Gauravaddo, Calangute Rajesh Art Gallery, Church Square, Panjim Kerkar Art Gallery, Gauravaddo, Calangute Dev's Art Gallery, Cobravaddo, Calangute Moksha Art Gallery, Naikavaddo, Calangute Yemanja Art Gallery, Betim Oma's Art Balcao, Calvaddo, Varca Manthan Lifestyle Heritage Gallery, Varca. Info courtesy: FindAllGoa [http://www.findall-goa.com] -- -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] On this auspicious day..III (10 things you didn't know about JoeGoaUk)
On this auspicious day..III (10 things you didn't know about JoeGoaUk) 10 things you didn't know about JoeGoaUk Believe it or not... 1. His real Name (Joao Piedade Inacio Loyola Phinehro) 2. Where he hailing from? (Near Utorda, walking distance to Lapit) 3. He is Goan (a true Goan) but married to non-Goan (it was love marriage, he says). 4. He says his short and sweet prayer not by kneeling down but sitting on the benches etc 5. He always start reading morning newspapers in his toilet 6. He loves Goa's tradition, heritage, culture (including Konkani & tiatr) etc 7. He takes bath not everyday but 3-4 times a week. 8. He still has sweet tooth, he needs sometihing to chew even during bedtime. Sometimes he is fast asleep with undissolved sweets in his mouth. Who discovered this ? Who else ? His wife. He brushes his teeth once a day. But his whole set of 32 teeth is intact. Strange but true. 9. He hates terrorists and other who hates their own parents etc 10. He likes sea food very much. Just sea food and some green salad. That's it and that is his meal (if rice then samll qty of Ukllem Xit or boiled rice prefered) Note: I am sure, you don't know plenty other things about JoeGoaUk, if you do know, just keep it to your self. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Crime and Punishment (2)
Bosco- It might be crystal clear to you "that many of us have understood" what Roland has had to say." But my Websters defines "snide" as "mean, cheap / obliquely malicious" -- and in my opinion that is exactly the manner in which Roland gratuitously characterized "Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld both of whom quite noted (sic) for their self-delusions on American foreign policy."Perhaps if "cheap shot" would be more acceptable than "snide" I would be happy to make that substitution. Insofar as the intrusion into this thread of discussion on the "U.S. government, George Bush..." perhaps your response might have been better addressed to Roland since he brought those enterprises into the equation -- I merely responded. I try faithfully to follow Goanet diktat/s :--) Rgds Chris - Original Message - From: "Bosco - Goanet Volunteer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Crime and Punishment (2) > On Mon Oct 9 08:51:15 PDT 2006, Chris Vaz wrote: > >> This snide remarks unerringly divulges the bias the writer has against >> the >> Bush administration and goes further to >> divulge what side of the divide he is on without pinpointing >> "self-delusions" of the two cabinet officers who are >> carrying on the foreign policy dictated by the commander-in-chief. In >> brief, the writer is indulging in namecalling-- >> exactly what Mario accuses his detractors of...without pointing to any >> specifics that can be rebutted. > > RESPONSE: Chris, there is nothing snide in what Roland Francis had to say. > What he said was in crystal clear English that many of us have understood. > > This discussion is about an article authored by Miguel Braganza. It would > be > appropriate to make comments related to that article. Its obvious there > are > some who have a very narrow view of what they read on Goanet and can only > take discussion down the same street over and over again. > > For those who may think of responding to this thread - this is not a > discussion on the US government, George Bush or anybody or anything down > that alley, so please don't bother responding along those lines. > > Thank you - Bosco > Goanet Admin > http://www.goanet.org - where Goans connect > > ___ > Goanet mailing list > Goanet@lists.goanet.org > http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Morgan Stanley puts overweight rating on Sesa Goa
http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/news/marketoutlook/sesagoacommodityprices/morganstanleyputsoverweightratingsesagoa/market/stocks/article/244606 Morgan Stanley puts overweight rating on Sesa Goa Morgan Stanley has come out with a report on Sesa Goa with an overweight rating and a price target of Rs 1,478, reports CNBC-TV18. According to the report, Sesa Goa has lagged the Sensex by 34% since June due to volatile commodity prices. The report mentions that on the back of a strong outlook for ore prices, this company is likely to have a strong earnings trend. Morgan Stanley expects a 15% (YoY) increase in contract prices in CY07 for Sesa Goa and they feel that China's appetite will remain influential in fueling this. Morgan Stanley also expects a 19% contract price increase for CY06 supplies likely in the coming quarters. The upturn in pig iron and coke prices will improve cost and realisations, says the report. On the valuations front, Morgan Stanley expects Sesa Goa's EBITDA to have a CAGR of 19.6% during FY06-09. The report also says that the stock is currently trading at a P/E of 5.4x FY07 earnings and 4.3x FY08 EPS. According to thee report, at a price target of Rs 1478, the stock would trade at 6.3x FY08 EPS. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Something to think about....
Fred, That is what makes Goanet so interesting, not the enemies I mean, just the 10 Goans and 12 opinions. In that, we are almost like the Bengalis. I don't know enough about history to state with any certainty that we are derived from the same stock, but there are credible historical theories about the derivation. Goanet embraces such a wide spectrum - from the most inane to the most intelligent - that one would not find it easy to get such a divergence of opinion on any other forum that consists of a bunch of people ostensibly of the same background. Goans themselves, if you think of it, are representative of so many backgrounds and personality types, that I am tempted to identify, in a humorous vein, each of those personalities and their multitudinous facets and let readers say "aah, that is me". By the way Patrice is such an interesting person from the article you have written, we would be privileged to have him join us in full vigor on this forum. On 10/10/06, Frederick FN Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "If you follow Goanet, it seems to be a Goan feature to have 10 Goans, > 12 opinions, and 16 enemies." -- Patrice Riemens > http://www.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-0601/msg00043.html > -- > -- > Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 > http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ > ___ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Giving back to Goa and Goans
Persons such as these, in my humble opinion are the real saints Goans should celebrate and not some irrelevant Europeans foisted on the populace by the quirks and vagaries of history. Roland. On 10/10/06, George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See essay below submitted for the GOA SUDHAROP GOAN SENIORS E-BOOK. Please > send your submission to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for your support. > > Goa Sudharop > *** > > Reminisces of the Work of the late Msgr. Herculano Gonsalves > by Edna D'Souza > > On 11th February 1868, Herculano, was born in Benaulim, in South Goa, to > Remedios and Angela > Amarante Gonsalves. He was brought up in an atmosphere of Christian piety and > virtue in the > foot-steps of his two uncle priests. He did his preparatory studies in his > own village an then > joined the Seminary to become a Priest. Just before his ordination, while > still a Deacon, he was > sent to Calangute, in North Goa, to be assistant to his paternal uncle who > was the then parish > priest of Calangute Church. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Lyrics of Konkani song ?KHAXEA MAIMCHEM DUDH? ? Happy birthday M. Boyer!
I dont consider myself qualified enough to comment on the living legend, M. Boyer. Nevertheless, I would like to share whatever little I know about him with my fellow Goans. Everyone knows that M. Boyer is an outstanding actor, comedian, writer and director, and, of course, the most successful tiatro producer. His writing skills are fantastic. He crafted his stories in such a way that every tiatro of his was a hit; hence, always houseful. They say self-confidence is the key to ones success. M. Boyer is a shrewd person who knew what he was doing. He believed in himself and this is what made him the most successful actor-writer-director-producer! M. Boyer will go down in the history as the tiatrist who commercialized the Tiatro and proved to everyone that he meant business. Most tiatrists presented their tiatros on a contract basis i.e., they would ask for a lump sum from a contractor say Rs.25,000 per show, which would cover writer/directors fee and actors share. Transportation and boarding charges were mostly charged to contractors account. The contractors owned/maintained a mattov (pavilion) in core areas in Goa where tiatros were held. In Mapusa, it was owned by Mr. Braganza/Narvenkar. Whenever M. Boyer staged tiatros, he made special arrangement to handle his own shows; he didnt give them on a contract. He had a special team of members who followed him everywhere and handled his tiatro business right from selling tickets at the counter to gate-keeping and overseeing tiatro activities on the night of the show. Thus, unlike others, he walked away with the entire proceeds of the show rather than only writing, directing and acting fees. He paid the contractors for the mattov, stage and chairs, and shared a small percentage with them to keep them happy. When people are old, they grow feeble and are sometimes confined to a wheelchair. In Goa, even old people are considered an asset; their mere presence at home is considered a big help. M. Boyer may be ailing at home with Parkinsons disease but he still remains an inspiration to all of us. The recent success of his all-time hit tiatro SONVSAR SUDORLO and EKUCH ROSTO which ran to packed houses everywhere proves that though in a wheelchair he is still a force to reckon with. The following lyrics of the song Khaxea Maimchem Dudh (Own Mothers Milk) composed and sung by the living legend, are classic. When we were born in the 1940s, every mother breast-fed her child; it did not only provide natural nourishment but it also strengthened the bondage between a mother and her child. However, things changed over the years and many mothers gradually substituted their milk with cows or goats milk and later on with tin powder milk, which was quite a good substitute but it couldnt be compared with mothers milk. As those children grew up and settled down in their lives, they ill-treated their mothers as if they were not born to them. When people noticed this kind of behavior they immediately remarked: Khaxea maimchem dudh pielelint zalear toslem kortub adarchinaslint. (Had they drunk their own mothers milk, they wouldnt have behaved that way. When a mother breast-fed her infant, she spoke to him/her in Konkani; modern mothers speak to their infants in English. No wonder when they grow up, they have little or no liking to our mother tongue, Konkani. KHAXEA MAIMCHEM DUDH by the living legend and Padmashree award winner, M. Boyer I Mhunnttam tem kantar aikat mojea baiam-babanim Kitem dektanv ami hea patki doeianim Purvoz amche sonvsar bhonvle aplea cholon paimanim Sonvsaran bore dis kadlet fokot fuddleach maimanim Chorus Adlea maimanche put, korit te ghorcheanchi sudh Pielelet dekun te khaxea maimchem dudh khaxea maimchem dudh Atanche zaleat zud, oklanchi aikotat budh Pionk nam dekun te khaxea maimchem dudh khaxea maimchem dudh II Adlea putanim maim-paik poslint dhaddun duddvanchim notam Aple ghans chukovn main putanchim bhorlelim pottam Atanche put te xikpam xikon maim-paicher martat khonttam Karann te vhodd zaleat pion tim dudhachim latam Chorus Mhunnonam atam vidan, vaitt kelem mhunn putan Vaitt kelem mhunn tuka, latantlea dudhan latantlea dudhan Vaitt zalear sudan, sopnetolo nidan Vaddla tor put tuzo, avoichea dudhan avoichea dudhan III Sangtam tim utram bhoinnim tum chotraen montin dhor Tujea putak diamant bhangaran tum bhor Bhurgeank moladik maimchem dudh taka dusrem kaim zainam sor Maimchem rinn farik korunk zainam kiteak mhunttat tor Chorus Khuim atam hanvem sodchem, zaitem mevta gaichem Konn atam dit mhaka, dudh moje maimchem dudh moje maimchem Udik mevta bhaimchem, bhaimchem sukot tor noichem Mevchenam portun amkam, dudh amche maimchem dudh amche maimchem (From Doms antique shelf!) On behalf of Anjunkars, I wish our zanvuim (son-in-law), M. Boyer, Many Happy Returns of the Day and a Very Happy 76th birthday on October 11, 2006. May the A
[Goanet] Pagddi, etc.
I would be grateful if somebody on this list would kindly explain what is meant by "Pagddi", "Potonn" and "Munz" and, if possible, give the etymologyof these words. Jorge ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Life is constant change!
--- Miguel Braganza wrote: > > > > > Life is constant change! > > > > > > The most common cause of death is life, for > never > > > has an inanimate object been known to die! > > > > On 09/10/06, Mario Goveia wrote: > > > Mario observes: > > > > > This demonstrates that Miguel CAN write a nice > > essay without inserting some gratuitous and > > irrelevant cheap shots at the attempts to provide > > some freedom and democracy for the hapless Iraqi > > people. > --- "Frederick \"FN\" Noronha" wrote: > > But Mario apparently can't resist making a political > speech out of ever post of his. Sorry about this > pot-shot! FN > Mario responds: > Wow! Even a truthful compliment cannot avoid a cheap shot by a left-wing Goanetter and fellow-journalist. > It looks like Fred completely missed the entire gist of my original response to Miguel's "Lebanese curry" mixed in with some "Konkan curry":-)) > ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Curious... how does Goa compare here?
Old heritage wine in new bottles Indo-Asian News Service Jaipur, Oct 10 (IANS) Replacing boring glass with ceramic in enticing colours and designs, the Rajasthan government will soon launch its 'Royal Heritage Liquor' in new bottles. The Ganganagar Sugar Mills (GSM), which will launch the heritage liquor in a new avatar, will also package a small history with each bottle. "Packing the liquor in ceramic bottles is completely a new concept. We expect that this will not only increase the sale of the liquor but also be a collectible item," said O.P. Yadav, GSM general manager. "Liquors would be packed according to their taste. The colour and designs of the bottles would be different as per the brand of the liquor," he added. Chandrahaas, for instance, belonging to the erstwhile Kanota rulers will have the photograph of the Kanota palace on its bottle, while Jag Mohan and Kesar Kasturi from Jodhpur royalty will carry pictures of the Umaid Bhawan Palace and Mehrangarh Fort on its bottle. Launched earlier this year, heritage liquor, which uses 84 spices and herbs and are based on old recipes, are fetching good demand both in India and abroad, said Yadav. "By launching these liquors, we have tried to cash in on the heritage and royal quotient. We want liquor connoisseurs to be reminded of Rajasthani principalities, whenever they see or drink this liquor." "We so far have recipes of five liquors - Kesar Kasturi, Jagmohan, Chandrahaas, Mawalin and Saunf (Mehensar) - from different principalities," he added. The prices range from Rs.350 to over Rs.2,000 for a 750 ml bottle. -- -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] On this auspicious day .............. Part I
On this auspicious day In this world, wealth/money is not every thing. No one is perfect, every one needed something or the other. Sometimes, such needs are not told to others or may not visible to others and may be kept top secrets between you and the God. Sometimes, we have every thing yet we long or ask more.. Some one rightly said, 'Human wants are insatiable' Here I am sending you my same old Short & sweet Prayer which I say for about 20 years now. I also wrote a letter to God, last year - See link below. MY personal PRAYER. SAIBA TUKA CHODD DEU BOREM KORUM MAKA SODNDAMKAL KHUXAL DOVORLA MUNN. SAIBA, JEM AUM TUJE LAGIM SODANCH MAGOT AILAM, ZATA ZALEAR TEM MAKA ANTAM DI. PUNN TORUI ASTONA, MHOJEA ON CHODD GOROZ ASLOLEANK POILEM DI. MAKA UPRANT DILEAR ZATA. I must admit, I am not very good at translation, so here somewhat like this.. LORD THANKS FOR EVERYTHING. LORD, DO GIVE ME NOW WHAT I HAVE BEEN ASKING YOU THROUGHOUT MY LIFE. HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHOSE NEEDS ARE MORE URGENT THAN ME, YOU MAY GIVE THEM FIRST. That's it! I don't say anything else. On this day, last year, I wrote a letter to GOD, you may read it here.. http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/message/266 OR http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2005-October/034792.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Comments of a Goan cancer surgeon
--- Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Only a pseudo-scientist ... Not many neurons are needed to know that Hi Gilbert Please try and refrain from comments like the above which only serve to lower the tone of Goan cyberspace. Please practice the rock solid moral code/Golden rule. You would not want someone to suggest what you have written above about you. It also gives the impression you have lost the argument and are throwing in the towel in desperation. Thank you in advance for your kind attention to this matter. Regards, George ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] O HERALD O - stepping into its 107th Year of publication
The actual date of O HERALDO's 106th anniversary was January 22, 2006. The then Portuguese-language daily was founded by Messias Gomes on January 22, 1900. It was the first daily ever published in any Portuguese colony. October 10 marks the anniversary of the day when the newspaper shifted to the English language. Jorge - Original Message - From: "N Chandrasekharan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:50 AM Subject: [Goanet] O HERALD O - stepping into its 107th Year of publication > Dear Goanetters, > > It is an event and I am fortunate to be at Goa, to witness it. Herald > Publications celebrating the 106th Anniversary on 10th October 2006. > > Just imagine the various lights and shades that the Herald must have > travelled through. Think of the difficult times in establishing a news > paper > of common acceptance. Feel the steady Corporate Journey of O Herald O > across > the different power corridors. > > Today, with the technology adoption, O Herald O has stepped into a > netnewspaper and also with its progressive lay outs and contents. > > I feel proud and happy to be its reader and occasional contributor. > > Should I also join you all in wishing O HERALD O Many more happy returns > of > the Day? > > DEV BOREN KORUM > > with regards and best wishes, > > N.CHANDRASEKHARAN > > GOA 9423324122 > ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Dubai Soccer : Cansaulim, Aldona, Divar & Pilar in Quaters
By Khaleejtimes Sports Reporter DUBAI A penalty conversion in the second-half earned Group B leaders CAC Cansaulim a hard-fought 1-1 draw against Aldona United in the third All Goa Inter-village Invitation Football Tournament at the Iranian Club Stadium here yesterday. In the second match of the day, Russell Rodrigues strike in the 11th minute of the first-half gave defending champions and Group A leaders Vanxim Divar a 1-0 victory over St. Anthonys Pernem. Ashok Satardekar of Divar was voted man-of-the-match. The win raised Divars points tally to 15. FR Agnel Pilar are in second with seven points and Colva Jebel Ali are in third place with four points from three matches. Godfrey Fernandes finished off a superb move by Andrew Dias to give Aldona United the lead in the 11th minute of the first-half against Cansaulim. Both sides had some scoring chances after that, but could not convert them into goals. Aldona United made a series of inroads into their opponents half after the break. Johnny Dias, Godfrey Fernandes and Andrew Dias put tremendous pressure on Cansaulims defenders during the early minutes of the second half. They were duly rewarded five minutes into the session as Lucas Fernandes fouled an attacker in the area. Jonathan DSouza made no mistake from the spot to put Aldona United on level. Inspired by the equaliser, Aldona United gained more control, but were kept at bay by the opposing defence. Aldona United, who also created a couple of chances, failed to find the target. Lawrie Gonsalves, the Aldona United keeper, however, was kept busy for a spell as Cansaulim put the pressure. Remedios Furtado and Simon Andrade also went close for Cansaulim in the closing stages of the match. Cruz Dias of Cansaulim was named man-of-the-match. The tournament, organised by All Star Entertainment in association with United Goans, is co-sponsored by Carl Stahl Lifting Equipment with Precision Machineries LLC, Wood Group Engineering Services and MDC as support sponsors. The co-support sponsors are Vanxim Divar, Gulf Ocean Lights LLC, Refrigeration Equipment Enterprises, Emirates Flight Catering, Accurate Engineering Workshop and Armour Auto Rustproofing. Todays matches: 4pm: SFX Old Goa v Morjim; 5pm FR. Agnel Pilar EKFC v Colva Jebel Ali Hotel. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Crime and Punishment (2)
Hi Bosco I note your subtle 'reprimand' to someone who endlessly criticises others on Goanet but who has not, to my knowledge, ever written a substantive article for readers to figure out some original thinking/reflection of his own on any Goan theme whatsoever. Goanet blurb says it welcomes essays and it would be good to see if the 'constant critic' can write something intelligent and substantive for a change, instead of endlessly harping on with inane comments on what others have written! Cornel - Original Message - From: "Bosco - Goanet Volunteer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:07 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Crime and Punishment (2) ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] On this auspicious day.........Part II (another bouquet of Goan Flowers Just4U)
On this auspicious day.Part II (another bouquet of Goan Flowers Just4U) It's true, I have not received any flowers yet (may be later today..). Here comes, from me, bouquet of another 25 different Goan flowers http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/265424708/ Keep Smiling!! previous bouquet (see names that I knew..) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/259314520/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Crime and Punishment (2)
--- Miguel Braganza wrote: > > George Bush is not a part of "Konkan Curry". He > will not be , unless he visits this region or > impacts it for some reason. I would think that > George Bush should not be a part of Goanet but, > obviously, with three out of the four Moderators > being America based, that is not quite possible. > Mario observes: > I agree with this as a generality, especially for a Goan like Miguel who is based in India and probably takes his freedom and democracy for granted like most Indians do today. However, I believe it was Miguel, and not the TWO out of four moderators who are America-based, who gratuitously inserted the comments about Hezbollah and Israel into an article where it had no relevance and archly suggested that Israel's response be "proportional" and "to scale" when responding to attacks by those who have vowed to wipe them off the map. I then opined on the bankruptcy of the notion that a nation should be "proportional" in their response to a group that is actively trying to eliminate them from the face of the earth. > I'm not sure how George Bush got into this thread, since he had not been mentioned by anyone previously, though I suspect it may be a Freudian inclusion:-)) > Miguel writes: > > I do not know if you know me well enough to state > what is ...or is not...my forte. I have attended > International Conferences and edited the proceedings > for agencies like ICIMOD [International Council for > Intergrated Mountain Development], ANGOC [Asian NGO > Coalition], IIRR [International Institute for Rural > Reconstruction]. I do not know if your friend Mario > has comparable credentials. Just because we do not > normally boast, it is not to be presumed that we do > not know anything. > Mario observes: > Once again, Miguel has made an erroneous assumption, which is that Joseph was being loyal to a friend. Just for the record, Joseph wouldn't recognize me if I passed him on the street, yet. So far, he simply knows me as a fellow Goanetter. > I'm glad for the rest of Goanet that Joseph's simple observation that Miguel had not been specific in responding to my comments caused Miguel to discard his normal modesty and tell us about his impressive-sounding credentials as an editor of the proceedings of various international conferences. I'm sure the level of English at these conferences could use some editing from someone educated in English-speaking India. The relevance of these impressive credentials to this thread and the comments herein were less clear to me. > I must confess I have not edited the proceedings of any international conference [where some participants may not even speak English, which makes it a tough job, or perhaps an easy job, I'm not sure which:-))] though I have been responsible for publishing the minutes of the meetings of one national professional organization, one where everyone spoke fluent American and could actually challenge my descriptions of what had occurred.:-)) > In my opinion, what one knows or does not know is put on display when one writes and publishes, even on a forum such as this. Does a reader change his opinion of the written word because of the writer's credentials, if what was written made no sense? > I am less interested in the quality of a specific Goanetter's command of English, recognizing that there are some members whose primary language growing up may have been something other than English. I am more interested in their thoughts and their logic, their context and their perspective, their sensitivity to the plight of others, and their specificity in debate when they disagree with someone or something. > And in case no one has noticed, I have praised Miguel's writing when he has avoided gratuitous references that did not fit into the points he was making, in my never-humble opinion:-)) > ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] (no subject)
Hi Interesting reading!!! Will be more interesting if you have someone posting famous goan recipes. also writing about the various goan feasts as and when they happen. regards tessie ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Crime and Punishment (2)
--- Bosco - Goanet Volunteer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mario, if you are looking for gratuitous > generalities and snide remarks, please refer to > your own recent post, specifically the last > sentence: > > http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-October/049147.html > > You are NOT any less guilty, while accusing others > of the same things you indulge in ? If you would > like others to change their style of writing and > demeanor, I'd suggest you start with yourself first. > Mario explains his post: > Here is the entire text of what Bosco is referring to as "snide" and "a generality", obviously because he disagreed with what I had written: > "Goanetters should read "The Gulag Archipelago" by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn and "Fear No Evil - The Classic Memoir of One Man's Triumph over a Police State." by Natan Sharansky to see whether citizens of the old Soviet Union really reconciled religion with communism, or not. BTW, both these authors spent more than three weeks in Russia in 1969." > This was in response to a post by Cornel in which he specifically cited a three week stay in Russia in the 60's the only purpose of which was to add credibility to an insinuation that he found religion to co-exist in harmony with communism in the old Soviet Union. > To counter this insinuation which I found offensive to say the least based on what I have learned about religion and communism from various Russian emigres who grew up in the old Soviet Union, I pointed out the published experience of noted Russians mentioned above, who had spent much of their lifetimes, not just three months, battling the hostility of communism towards religion. > I guess if you think that the old Soviet Union was a bastion of religious freedom, you would object to my comments as "snide" and "general". In fact my post was very specific, pointed, factual and only derogatory to those who would disagree, though it may have been tinged with some annoyance at the technique and conclusions I was objecting to. > ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] AICHEA DISAK CHINTOP - Outubrachi 11vi, 2006!
Avoichea dudhak ani maim-bhaxek kainch sor korunk zainam (Nothing can be compared to mothers milk and mother tongue.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Crime and Punishment (2)
Cornel-- If you had purused my posting thoroughly, you would have noticed that I did not mean to criticize anybody but merely pointe out the inaccurate characterization by Roland about the supposed actions by certain officers in the Bush (oops!) administration. I did not want those comments go unchallenged! Insofar as original thinking /reflection is concerned, I do my bit, time permitting. Original articles need deep thought and careful research-- a time consuming operation, a scarce commodity since I have several irons in the fire all at once! I much rather spend my available time reading respected publications such as The Wall Street Journal especially the editorial pages where one can be inspired by opinion makers of considerable intellect--much superior to mine! I have no desire to opinionate in a forum such as Goanet as we already have enough intellectuals of our own and several pretenders! In fact I admire your efforts to engage in original essays and have wondered how you find the time to write so loftily and sonorously--almost ad infinitum. And there are others on Goanet who expound endlessly by using the works of others! I am sure you have recognized some of these charlatans to your utter disgust! Oi mur're??? Ciao! Chris - Original Message - From: "cornel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Crime and Punishment (2) > Hi Bosco > I note your subtle 'reprimand' to someone who endlessly criticises others > on > Goanet but who has not, to my knowledge, ever written a substantive > article > for readers to figure out some original thinki ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] On this auspicious day..III (10 things you didn't know about JoeGoaUk)
I concern myself with "he starts reading the morning newspapers in the toilet" Mr. Pinheiro, did you start this habit during the old era of the Goa toilets? Did the pigs disturb your concentration? Did they have to wait longer than necessary since you were reading? What did you do with the newspaper after you read it (hopefully didn't take it back out). Did the poor light in the darkened room lead to your photography hobby? Roland. On 10/10/06, JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On this auspicious day..III (10 things you didn't know about JoeGoaUk) > > 10 things you didn't know about JoeGoaUk > > Believe it or not... > 1. His real Name (Joao Piedade Inacio Loyola Phinehro) > 2. Where he hailing from? (Near Utorda, walking distance to Lapit) > 3. He is Goan (a true Goan) but married to non-Goan (it was love marriage, he > says). > 4. He says his short and sweet prayer not by kneeling down but sitting on the > benches etc > 5. He always start reading morning newspapers in his toilet > 6. He loves Goa's tradition, heritage, culture (including Konkani & tiatr) etc > 7. He takes bath not everyday but 3-4 times a week. > 8. He still has sweet tooth, he needs sometihing to chew even during bedtime. > Sometimes he is > fast asleep with undissolved sweets in his mouth. Who discovered this ? Who > else ? His wife. > He brushes his teeth once a day. But his whole set of 32 teeth is intact. > Strange but true. > 9. He hates terrorists and other who hates their own parents etc > 10. He likes sea food very much. Just sea food and some green salad. That's > it and that is his > meal (if rice then samll qty of Ukllem Xit or boiled rice prefered) > > > Note: I am sure, you don't know plenty other things about JoeGoaUk, if you do > know, just keep > it to your self. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > for Goa & NRI related info... >http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ > > Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc >(for updates etc click below) > http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ > > > > > ___ > Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" – > The Wall Street Journal > http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html > ___ > Goanet mailing list > Goanet@lists.goanet.org > http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org > -- Roland Francis ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Life is constant change!
Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It looks like Fred completely missed the entire gist > of my original response to Miguel's "Lebanese curry" > mixed in with some "Konkan curry":-)) Mario, Since, IMHO, only one person on Goanet writes worse than you do, I do not blame Fred or anyone else for missing the gist of what you wrote. > Wow! Even a truthful compliment cannot avoid a > cheap > shot by a left-wing Goanetter and fellow-journalist. Secondly, it is almost impossible for you to author a post with out resorting to name calling. Only your mind would try to label a person a "left-wing Goanetter." Then again, you have also said that Goanet has a trash section. I am still waiting for you to answer the following questions: > 1) There is no trash section of the Goanet archives. > 2) It would really be interesting to know why you >think there is such a section. > 3) What makes you want to visit such a place? > 4) Why would you trip over when you are there? I have no doubt that you were once capable of taking down minutes. However, life is a constant change. I hope you are still at a stage where you are able to understand and respond to questions. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Katty de Navelim - A talented singer and composer
To: Mr. Gaspar Almeida Moderator/Editor - Gulf-Goans eNewsletter http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ www.goa-world.com Gaspar, Well deserved write up on Katty. I had the pleasure of associating with him during his tenure as President and again when he was General Secretary of Navelim Youth Centre and and I can confidently say that he puts his heart in whatever he does. We are proud that he made his debut in Kuwait in "Thi Moji Maim" a drama hosted by Navelim Youth Centre. As villagers of Navelim and on behalf of Navelim Youth Centre in Kuwait we wish him every success at Kuwait-Goa Tiatristanchi Sonvstha (KGTS). Agnello A S Fernandes President Navelim Youth Centre - Kuwait <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] China and Russia (2)
--- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Clearly, any difficulty over my factual reporting, > could only be in someone seemingly incapable of > understanding that there would inevitably be > differences in different scenarios. A prison camp in > Siberia would hardly be similar to the hive of > activity in metropolitan Moscow, Leningrad and > Kiev. > Mario observes: > Cornel, I think you have overlooked my point, which was the reasons why Solzhenitsyn and Sharansky were put in prison camps in the first place. > Cornel writes: > > Likewise, is it so difficult to understand that > under American control, Guantanamo is not the same > as trendy San Francisco, let alone the Rust Belt > in the USA? > Mario observes: > Cornel, perhaps the political TV shows in the UK have misled you once again. Gitmo is a special prison for the worst Islamic terrorists captured on the battlefield, not US citizens simply practicing their religion and freedom of speech and action, and thus cannot be compared with the Solzenitzen and Sharansky situations, who were sentenced to the Gulags in Siberia in the old Soviet Union for their political and religious convictions. > ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Comments of a Goan cancer surgeon
Another vivid example that, the eyes see and read what the mind knows. Below is Dr Jayant's comments (with CAPS from me) preceeded by Mervyn's take. As stated previously in my post, because not all of a belief is correct, the story is called a myth and not a scientific fact. According to the American Cancer Society, 41% of Americans believe in the myth. Kind Regards, GL - Mervyn Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It now seems he used a "Goan grandmothers myth" that DOES NOT exist as his introduction to a post on cancer. JAYANT'S COMMENTS There is no such myth (that removing a cancer is dangerous) prevalent SPECIFICALLY in Goa. There are stories ALL OVER THE WORLD of someone who had a cancer removed and died subsequently, propagating the wrong conclusion that it was the surgery that caused the demise. Obviously, this is false logic. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goans wearing saris
The Sari is beautiful female attire which is very flattering to a woman's figure. Not everyone can wsear a sari with pizzaz or elan. Most Indian women are slender and have a willowy figure which makes then very attractive in a sari.Since many women in India used to carry pots and firewood and baskets balanced on their head they also had great posture/ During the several decades that I spent in the USA, my wife with my encouragement and pride, very often wore saries to cocktail parties and dinners. The saris were mostly of silk with jari work. She received so many positive comments and compliments on her attire. The women were generally jealous at all the attention she got in her sari. Some even bought saris and asked us to help them drape it on them. But the sari does not look good on everyone. Few Western women can wear a sari gracefully. In my younger days most of the women wore saris. I know both my grandmothers did all day long, even to work in the fields or go to church. Of course when they went to the field they tucked a length of the saree between their legs so the garment did not trail their ankles while they were in the soggy rice fields. Let us be proud of our traditional attire, which has stood the test of time. Vivian ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Crime and Punishment (2)
Tue Oct 10 08:38:28 PDT 2006 Chris Vaz wrote: > Bosco- > It might be crystal clear to you "that many of us have understood" what > Roland has had to say." But my Websters defines "snide" as "mean, > cheap / obliquely malicious" -- and in my opinion that is exactly the > manner in which Roland gratuitously characterized "Dick Cheney and Donald > Rumsfeld both of whom quite noted (sic) for their self-delusions on > American foreign policy." Perhaps if "cheap shot" would be more > acceptable > than "snide" I would be happy to make that substitution. RESPONSE: Chris, I'm not disputing Merriam-Webster. What I contested was your assertion that Roland's comments being classified as "snide". I gave you and other Goanetters an example yesterday of snide comments - a post by Mario Goveia. I suppose its just a coincidence that you and Mario, both missed the gist of Miguel Braganza's fine post on dispropotionate Punishment to Crime re the 3 Goan youth that were recently electrocuted or the issue about the diversion of the Mhadei river or the issue about the electrocution of wild bulls - 6 paragraphs in that article and yet you and Mario only choose to ramble about the Israel, Hezbollah, Bush, etc.There is very little interest in Goa or Goans in both your writings. And talking of cheap shots - here's one directed back at Miguel: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-October/049327.html > Insofar as the intrusion into this thread of discussion on the "U.S. > government, George Bush..." perhaps your response might have been better > addressed to Roland since he brought those enterprises into the > equation -- I merely responded. I try faithfully to follow Goanet > diktat/s :--) RESPONSE: Roland Francis has deliberated here on Goanet on a wide variety of issues. His passion for Goa and Goans is visible in his writings. You on the other hand, Chris, have only piped up about US politics or to duel specific personalities - both counter to Goanet diktats. Rgds Chris ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Oct 10 - Don Bosco Community College inaugrated at Loutolium
Mr. Frederick, Hello how are you. This is James Monteiro here. Can you please give me the correct address for the Don Bosco mentioned in your letter below of Loutolium , Coz if I can send some donations to the following in the near future. And which is the best courier that I can send it through , So it reaches the following mentioned below. Thanking You in advance. Regards. James Monteiro ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Kadio Bodio
Does anyone have the recipe of Kadio Bodio & Khajem? & could you please share it with us. Thanks in Advance, Regards, Martha. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Of Goans killed on the 'Tilawa' by a submarine in World War II
See essay below submitted for the GOA SUDHAROP GOAN SENIORS E-BOOK. Please send your submission to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and encourage your friends and family to send in an essay too. Thank you for your support. Goa Sudharop ** CROSSING THE INDIAN OCEAN BY SHIP DURING WORLD WAR II by Cornel DaCosta Many Goans in East Africa worked hard for five years and then took their long leave, of about six months, to visit their loved ones in Goa. When young, I did the trip by passenger ship six times. The voyage each way took about nine days and in later times, was most pleasurable. However, in 1942, although very young, I can recall much detail of a voyage on the Tilawa, travelling fom Goa to Mombasa, Kenya. I am now amazed that so many people did make such a trip when enemy submarines were known to be attacking shipping in the Indian Ocean. Indeed, my trip on the Tilawa was the last one she made before being torpeoded by a Japanese submarine on 24th November 1942. Many Goan lives were lost and survivors had horrific accounts to tell for many years. On the Tilawa, I recall the terrible fears of the hundreds of passengers. During the day, an escorting British frigate was seen just twice and provided some reassurance. However, at night all lights were switched off on board, so that the ship would not be visible and become an easy target for the maurading submarines. At best, one had a torch to find one's way to a toilet and young children prone to tantrums were desperately quietened by their anxious mothers. It is difficult to describe the fear of the passengers when crossing the Indian Ocean in such perilous circumstances. Most were simply fatalistic or took to ceasless prayer. They literally counted the hours rather than the days when they would make it safely across the sea. But why did they travel in such hazardous circumstances? A number of reasons come to mind. Firstly, they were prepared to take the risk of a crossing in wartime. Many assumed that the Indian Ocean was relatively safe compared to other seas in the world and believed that a harmless passenger ship would not be sunk by the enemy. Their prime purpose was to renew contact with family and other loved ones in the ambience of Goa. They took with them, from East Africa, presents like chocolates, ground coffee, sugar, bars of soap and manufactured clothing for folks 'back home.' In turn, they took from Goa, things not available in East Africa such as genuine Goa sausages, Goan sweets and the permitted bottles of feni and Portuguese wines and spirits. All these were transported in many metal trunks which were stacked in the depths of the holds of a ship. Spending six months in Goa was an absolute joy. Homes were alive with so much activity. Christmas, Easter and Carnaval were a particular treat. Moreover, at least one goat would be bought and reared for milk for the children, chickens would provide eggs and meals too, while a pig was invariably fattened to provide home made sausages by the expert chef in the locality. Tailors were employed at home to produce clothing of one's choice and the beach provided real pleasure on relatively empty beaches in an incredibly underpopulated Goa. To be taken around in horse-drawn carriages was a great novelty as well as when travelling in pretty rickety buses on red roads which threw up a lot of fine dust everytime the few motorised vehicles went past. As electricity was not yet available, lighting in homes at night was limited and the shadows thrown by candlelight in large homes were often rather daunting. This was not helped by local people providing endless stories about ghosts and haunted homes as well as accounts of encounters with snakes. However, this was compensated by many new experiences, including the skill of expertly drawing water from a deep well. Secondly, children were able to meet with grandparents in Goa for six months at a time even if they missed schooling for such long periods as I did periodically! If children were starting school in East Africa, keeping to school entry dates were deemed important, however difficult the sea passage. Thirdly, there were those who were travelling for the first time to East Africa after obtaining a much valued "permit" to work there. And there were those who had gone to get married in Goa and were returning with new spouses. Clearly, these voyagers across the Indian Ocean were really brave to do so in the dificult and dangerous circumstances during the six-year Second World War. I salute their fortitude and use this opportunity belatedly to convey my condolences to families who lost their loved ones in the depths of the Indian Ocean. Because of very fortuitous circumstances, my family and I were lucky not to have gone down on board the Tilawa by the margin of a single earlier crossing. Fate does work in strange ways!
[Goanet] Goan Parental Care in North America
One would have scarcely anticipated a problem among Goans in Canada with regard to looking after aged parents, but there is a big problem nevertheless. Silent but big. Here are two typical cases (all names replaced). Case A Rosy has emigrated to Canada about 3 years ago. She has managed to get herself a reasonable job from the start that allows her to live a decent if struggling life. Her husband Peter is not as lucky. He holds down whatever he can but gets laid off often. He has no marketable skills and no foresight to enroll in further education. They have 3 children and are quite content. Rosy has a married sister Anna who has been longer in Canada then she has. Her family is much better off. Rosy's mother in Goa pleaded with her daughters to come to Canada so she could be looked after and be near her closest kin. Rosy applied for the visa and Anna paid for the fare but beyond that Anna wanted nothing more to do with her mother. She just couldn't be bothered. Rosy looks after the mother at great personal sacrifice and hardship but with a willing and happy heart. Rosy is a good daughter. The mother however now has Parkinsons and it is becoming increasingly difficult for Rosy to manage. She suggests very reluctantly to her mother that they find a place in a good long-term care facility even if it means further financial sacrifice for Rosy. Her husband is also giving her a hard time, out of his own frustrations. The mother stubbornly refuses. She sends Rosy on all sorts of guilt trips. Rosy decides never to bring up that again. The sister knows all this, but beyond taking her mother for a birthday in the family and occasions like that, will not lift a finger. Rosy is a hard worker. She is intelligent too and her boss who is afraid she may replace her, makes all kind of trouble to get her to leave. Rosy is depressed and at the end of her tether. Case B Amy is a Bank VP and her husband a CIO. Both earn well above average income and are affluent. The house has been paid for and the children have graduated and are working. Amy has 2 brothers - one in the USA and the other in India. Both are also well off. The one in the USA is worth millions. He runs his own outfit. They come from an affluent family in India. The mother has been left a large house by her husband and has divided it into two parts - one for each son. Each part if sold could make even a wealthy person retire. The daughter has been left nothing. The mother lives in her own section and is being treated hostilely by her two daughters-in-law. She asks her daughter to be taken to Canada. The daughter obliges. Her husband is a good man. After a few years, the mother becomes an invalid due to a degenerative disease. The daughter seeks to put the mother in a long term care unit. The mother refuses, she is terrified of living with someone other than family. Amy asks her brother in the US to take the mum there. He wants nothing to do with it. He says he has a business to run. The daughter reminds him of what the mother has left for him. He is unmoved. The other son in India is a high Govt official. He pleads that he is constantly being transferred and cannot provide due care. None of the three want to spend the money required to get personal care at home, which is rather expensive. There is only so much Amy's husband wants to do for his mother in law. The mother is at the end of the tether. She is miserable and so are Amy and her husband. Money can solve everything but nobody wants to part with it. The mother wants the status quo, the sons think Amy took her to Canada and is now responsible and Amy does not want her mother at home. -- Roland Francis ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Warning from Australian officials: ?Goldfish brand Nutre Powder?
Folks, I recieved this from a Tanzanian doctor working in NSW, Australia. Mervyn3.0 -- Friday, 6 October 2006 PUBLIC HEALTH ADVICE Test results today have confirmed that a brand of powder some people add to Asian cooking has led to the hospitalisation of five people in Sydneys south west. Dr Jeremy McAnulty, NSW Healths Director of Communicable Diseases, said that patients had reported adding the product, sold as Goldfish brand Nutre Powder, to their food shortly before developing symptoms. Five people have been admitted to Liverpool Hospital suffering the symptoms of sodium nitrite poisoning. All patients have now recovered and have been discharged from hospital. Dr McAnulty said ingestion of the substance caused a condition called methaemoglobinaemia a disorder of the blood. Symptoms usually occur within minutes of ingestion, are severe and can be fatal. They include: shortness of breath racing heart tiredness blue skin vomiting loss of consciousness. Immediate treatment with an antidote counteracts the effect of the poison in the body. Dr McAnulty said patients report adding Goldfish Nutre Powder to food they prepared at home. Testing of a sample of the Goldfish Nutre Powder ordered by the NSW Food Authority showed that it contains the chemical sodium nitrite. Adding this chemical to your food can lead to serious poisoning. The important message for the community is not to add Goldfish brand Nutre Powder to food, he said. Emergency departments throughout NSW have been advised to be on the lookout for people displaying symptoms of methaemoglobinaemia. Additionally, NSW Health has contacted other states and territories to advise them of these cases. A recall of the product is being undertaken by Victorian Health authorities. NSW Health Media www.health.nsw.gov.au Office (02) 9391 9121 After hours (02) 9214 9972 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Happy birthday Amitabh Bachchan!
Today, the word Bollywood has become a craze worldwide, including the West, and its stars dazzle and puzzle everyone. One of the greatest Indian actors of our times is Amitabh Bachchan - the legend of India. Bollywood has been associated with Goa from its early days. Many of our Goans have played music in Hindi films during the last century and still play, and a few have acted in movies, the latest among them is Varsha Usgaonkar. Goa is also a hot spot for shooting Hindi movies. Many Hindi movies depict Goan folk songs. Amitabh Bachchan, the superstar of the Indian screen, who celebrates his 64th birthday today, October 11, loves Goa very much, and why wouldnt he when the foundation stone of his success was connected with Goa? Yes, Amitabhs first hit movie was BOMBAY to GOA; hence, he is grateful to Goa and Goans. Amitabh has been a close friend of the late Romeo Mendes and his wife, Antonette. As a token of their friendship, Amitabh lent his voice for Antonettes first audio cassette titled Jivit Ek Sopon. The introduction of the audio cassette begins with Amitabhs following dialogue: AMITABH BACHCHAN: Hanv, Amitabh Bachchan, tumchea mukar haddta, Antonetachi poili Konkani cassette Jivit ek Sopon (Life is a dream). I wish Antonette all success. Hanv, Goa zaite pavtt pavlam. Goa ani Goencho lok mhaka ekdom boro lagta. Dev Borem Korum. (I, Amitabh Bachchan, present Antonettes first Konkani cassette Jivit ek Sopon (Life is a dream). I wish Antonette all success. I have been to Goa many times. I like Goa and Goans very much. Thank you.) Here is the title song of the audio cassette: JIVIT EK SOPON by Antonette & Romeo Mendes Legend: A = Antonette; R - Romeo A: Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha I A: Chintlear mojem, jivit ek sopon Noxib kallokan, ravlem lipon Asleanv dogaim, sangatan ximpon Khoro mog amchea, kallzan vompon Dialogue: A: Zanant tumi, mozoi novro asa Ani to fokot mhaka cimitirin mevta Ani mozo khu-u-u-u-p mog korta Atam to mhaka mellonk ietolo Chorus R: Lal-la-la-la-la-la-a-a-a A: Ho poi to, ho poi to ailo R: Lal-la-la-la-la-la-a-a-a A: Darling I love you R: Lal-la-la-la-la-la-a-a-a La-la-la-la-a-a R: Kitlo teomp pasun tum moji, pollovn ravteleim vatt A: Tujea vinnem ravonozo, ugddass ieta dis rat R: Sangatan bonvtalevm, ghalun hathan hath Derepent mornan, getlo mozo ghat II A: Xikleanv dogaim, ekech Collegin Mogachem amchea, kallzak poddlem khinn Sonvsar koddu, lagta tuje vinn Fugar zavn roddtam, konnancher korum xinn Dialogue: A: Zannaim Brian, lok mhaka pixem mhunntat Kiteak zannaim, ami mog kortanv mhunnon Punn tum mhaka mevtoch, hanv sogllem visortam darling Khorench hanv tuka sangtam, hanv sogllem visortam Chorus R: Lal-la-la-la-la-la-a-a-a A: Lal-la-la-la-la-la-a-a-a R: Lal-la-la-la-la-la-a-a-a A: La-la-la-la-a-a R: Tujea kallzan mhaka dovrun, ogddaitai ankvarponn A: Ekleachoch hanvem mog kela, dusreacher lagonam mon R: Sakrament zoddunk pavlonam, sukachem dar zalem bond R: Koslo faido ghevn, bonvtai pixeaponn III A: Dogaimcheo chitti, vachun igorzanim Kazar zavnk asleanv, thoddeach disanim Dorun geloi, mogachi nixanni Kazari amrut, chaklenam dogaimnim Dialogue: A: Resperadis, hanv igorjen vetelim Deddo, fulancho turo mojea hathan divn, mojea poleacho kiss getolo Magir padri amchem resper kortolo Uprant, tum mozo poti ani hanv tuji potin Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-a-a Chorus R: Lal-la-la-la-la-la-a-a-a A: Lal-la-la-la-la-la-a-a-a R: Lal-la-la-la-la-la-a-a-a A: La-la-la-la-a-a R: Fuddar kor tujea jivitak, ghalun bonvonakaim fas A: Avaz tuzo aikonk ieta, mhaka tum disonaim khas R: Moron moji mathi zali, zavnk kazar dileli bhas Porot tuka mevchonam, itlean sodd moji as From Doms antique shelf! On behalf of Goans, I wish Amitabh Bachchan Many Happy Returns of the Day and a very happy birthday. We wish him all the best in his life. Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Mumbai... and a factfile
What happens when you really like to read... but life conspires simply not to allow you to? You just live to regret it, and make much of it in public... like through this note. Anyway, I just confessed to myself that it has been years before I completed reading any single book cover to cover ... and most of one's reading has been magazine-related, tonnes of screen-based stuff or just flitting across pages that catch one's interest. A colleague just thinks this is a problem wtih "you techies... missing out so much in life"! So one was not terribly surprised to realise that I had quite missed earlier noticing Derek O'Brien's *The Mumbai Factfile* (Penguin ISBN 0-14-302947-9 Rs 250 pp 309, 2003) though it has been on the stands for two or three years now. For those not knowing him, O'Brien is being called "Asia's best-known knowledge game show host" who started his career as a journalist. (So, there's actually life after journalism, eh!) Like all high-quality quizzers in this part of the world, he lives in Kolkatta. Which makes us ask the question: what must we be doing to build up expertise in various fields that Goa *can* excel in? Other than being so hyper-efficient in simply indugling in infighting, that is? This book is said to contain "over 1200 detailed factoids" and "a comprehensive and fascinating one-stop guide to everything that makes the city of dreams what it is". City of dreams? Maybe it was... in the 'sixties. Now, politics (and it's no point blaming the "terrorists" alone) has conspired to make this a city of blasts, riots, floods, and intracine Shiv Sena clashes within that intolerant parivar (heard yesterday's news from Dadar and Shivaji Park?) O'Brien's book covers a range of topics. "From history and heritage to food and nightlife, from business and commerce, communities, religions and customs to landmarks and local specialities, from Bollywood, cricket and theatre to dabbawalas, BEST and Parsis" One of O'Brien's two assistants has this very Goan-sounding (could be wrong) name of Fiona Fernandez. Apart from that, Goa peppers the book. VM de Malar and me just can't agree whether Goans have been "edited out" of their cultural contribution to Bombay (and Mumbai), or if it's just a fate we deserve ... for getting so complacent with our early achievements there. Anyway Some quick links to Goa: * In the 18th century, the famous Maratha admiral Kanhoji Angre ruled the seas between Mumbai and Goa. The Kennery Island off Mumbai's coast was his stronghold. Angre and his successors built a strong naval force that spelt terror for the Siddis, Dutch, Portuguese and later the English between the waters of Mumbai and Goa for nearly fifty years. His father Tukaji served under Chhatrapati Shivaji, and Kanhoji carried his legacy of developing a powerful navy to keep these foreign forces at bay from 1698 to 1729. (page 3) [Wikipedia identifies Angre [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanhoji_Angre] as a privateer [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privateers] and notes that his opponents called him a pirate. History is amazing: A privateer was a private ship (or its captain) authorized by a country's government to attack and seize cargo from another country's ships. So one man's pirate is another flag's privateer ... or vice versa!] * The early Roman Catholic converts from Bassein, Salsette, Daman and Goa settled in an area called Cavel in Girgaum, south-central Mumai. They were converted by the early Portuguese settlers. Cavel still has the highest Roman Catholic concentration within the city. (p 34) * One of the oldest coastal communities typically found in Mumbai are the Konkanis. They are settlers from Ratnagiri, Sawantwadi and Goa in the Konkani region. They are settlers from Ratnagiri, Sawantwadi and Goa in the Konkan region. Some also live along the Karnataka and Kerala coast. Their history dates back to the Maratha rule in the 15th century, though sometimes it can be traced back to the movement of these tribes (sic!) to the region of present-day Goa in the 11th century. They speak a variation of the Marathi language that is written in the Devanagari script, first used in 1675. (So, Mr O'Brien, can we expect some controversy about language and script?) (p 37) * The Gaud Saraswat Brahmins arrived in Mumbai from Goa, Karnataka and Maharashtra. These GSBs, as they are popularly called, belong to a regional caste of Brahmins. Their ancestors were said to have lived to the north of the Vindhyas and they gradually moved southwards into Goa, Karnataka, Maharashtra and the rest of India. There are five subdivisions within this caste. They usually speak the Konkani language. (p 40) Other entries cover Goa Portuguesa (not the pre-1961 state, but the restaurant which "stocks meat and masalas from the markets of Mapusa and Margao. Four of Goa's leading cooks -- Ram Gaokar from the Mandovi's Rio Rico, Salu Fernandes from the Taj's Holiday Village, Shanke
Re: [Goanet] O HERALD O - stepping into its 107th Year of publication
I remember OHeraldO edition in Portuguese & partly in Romi Konkani. It was on my birthday 10.Oct.(1983), OHeraldo changed to fully English. And now, I think it is No.1 in Goa. Herald become more popular during Language agitation (mainly amongst the Goan catholics) Plus Tiatr (it gives very concessional rates for Tiatr ads) that's why once can see up to more than one full page of Tiatr ads on Sundays. Usually, a small display ad of 5cm x 1 col cost Rs.1150 but the same is just Rs.300 for Tiatr ads (Tiatr ads/announcement only and not all Tiatr related ads). No matter how big is the ad, Tiatr ads get about 75% discount. And I always thought our tiatrists are spending heavily on their Tiatr ads. It is also No.1 when it comes to Death/obituary ads. Sometimes more than one full page where as NT, same day, not even a quarter. Here also, I think, such ads get some discount but not as much as Tiatr. All this and others make Herald No. 1 today (In terms of Circulation, Revenue etc) However, when it comes to news reporting, comparatively, GT is still my No.1 but sadly, most catholics look at it as Hindu or Pro-Marathi Newspaper and I think this attitude may never change unless name 'Gomantak' is changed. GT is still the Cheapest i.e. Rs.2 (16pages)where as H/NT are Rs.3 === The actual date of O HERALDO's 106th anniversary was January 22, 2006. The then Portuguese-language daily was founded by Messias Gomes on January 22, 1900. It was the first daily ever published in any Portuguese colony. October 10 marks the anniversary of the day when the newspaper shifted to the English language. Jorge - Original Message - From: "N Chandrasekharan" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:50 AM Subject: [Goanet] O HERALD O - stepping into its 107th Year of publication > Dear Goanetters, > > It is an event and I am fortunate to be at Goa, to witness it. Herald > Publications celebrating the 106th Anniversary on 10th October 2006. > > Just imagine the various lights and shades that the Herald must have > travelled through. Think of the difficult times in establishing a news > paper > of common acceptance. Feel the steady Corporate Journey of O Herald O > across > the different power corridors. > > Today, with the technology adoption, O Herald O has stepped into a > netnewspaper and also with its progressive lay outs and contents. > > I feel proud and happy to be its reader and occasional contributor. > > Should I also join you all in wishing O HERALD O Many more happy returns > of > the Day? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
