date:20061217


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In 1961, I was a student of Lourdes Convent Saligao and we had our usual 
exams in the month of December. We had our history paper on the 18th 
December and as usual I woke up at 5 am to do the last revision before going 
for the exam. My mother was in the kitchen. I suddenly felt the window panes 
rattling with bomb noise. My brother was studying in st Brittos and on the 
15th December the statue of Manuel D'Souza was destroyed. All the students 
from Brittos and other schools which had boarders were sent home. I was too 
young to understand about liberation. When Iwas told that the Indians have 
entered Goa and  that they are bombing I got scared and the first thing that 
both mom and I did was to rush to the church for mass and prayers.Holidays 
were declared till when no body knew. 18th December passed on . In the 
morning we saw planes and planes going round the sky. From that day onwards 
we could see military trucks moving on the road. We thought now that indians 
have come down to Goa we would see electricity in our homes and Goa would 
look like Bombay.The rest is History. Instead of development we are seeing 
development of particular families, improvement in the pocket money, 
disappearence of huts and instead two plus one. The fellow who could not 
afford to buy one litre of milk, now has milk for his dogs and cats and may 
be street animals. The fellow who could not buy a cycle has now expensive 
cars. Quo vadis Domini. For whose benefits are we liberated? and the second 
question is are we really liberated?
Albert

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[Goanet] Hey! did you happen to see the most beautiful girl in the word?

2006-12-17 Thread Mervyn Lobo


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Folks,
Here is my first attempt on Youtube.
I had to edit a 30 minute video to 6 minutes.
The first 3 minutes are in the first link.
The second 3 minutes are in the second link.

It took me a total of eight hours to edit and down
load the video. I now have some idea of what Joe UK
has to go thru, on a slow line, to send you a video
link from Goa.

On these video clips are the highlights of the draw.
If anyone wants the entire 30 minute DVD, I will
certainly oblige if you make a $10.00 donation to Goa
Sudharop. This is only to cover the postage costs on
my side.

The guy yapping all the time in the first video is
Bosco i.e. the person who approves or in some cases
disapproves your email.

Please pay attention to the draw for prize number
fourteen 'cause I do not think there is more beautiful
girl in this world..

The second video is of some strange people singing
carols (in three different languages). For those who
still doubt my wife sings "Crazy" a say $100.00
donation will secure you the entire song.

The following Goanetters were at the draw:
Bosco
Ben Antao
Silviano Barboza
Francis Rodrigues
Roland Francis
Joe Lobo
Diogo Lobo
and myself

Mervyn3.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JTUFuZlx4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuBmFdt7wCA



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[Goanet] NON STOP ENTERTAINMENT IN GOA

2006-12-17 Thread airesrod


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The Goa political carnival is on. In the run up for
the Assembly elections it is going to be a long real
life tiatr. The election fever began with a fiery
Narkasur. It was a good Diwali and a very festive Idd.
 Christmas promises to be very merry too followed by a
not so dry Lent after a colorful Carnival and Shigmo.
The festivities will culminate into a farcical
assembly election filled with fun and frolic.

The Congress will however have a very considerable
uphill task.  Its not going to be an easy with a
dysfunctional government in office and corruption at
Himalayan proportions. To make matters worse the party
has the biggest liability of its times by way of the
Leader of the Opposition within the Congress Party,
Mr. Churchill Alemao. Churchill seems to be out to
dispose everything his party proposes and makes things
very pleasant and easy for the official Opposition,
the BJP. 

Aires Rodrigues
Ribandar

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[Goanet] Goa Regional Plan

2006-12-17 Thread Clinton Vaz


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Goans,

Enough has already been said about the regional plan protest at 3pm today.

If you aren't coming for the meeting, your part of the problem anyway.

For those of you that live out of Goa, and are interested in knowing more, 
watch NDTV 24x7 news at 9.30pm for a special 1 hour programme on this 
destructive plan.

Participate in the movement. It's not just about todays protest, but a 
sustained campaign against all the corrupt politicos of all parties that 
have accepted money and converted land to suit their own requirements and 
sepecially against the Monster Rat and Cheap Minister...

Clinton..
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Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 1, Issue 639

2006-12-17 Thread Bernado Colaco


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Herr Noronha,

Recently I travelled from Macau to Guangzhou,regional
capital of Guangdong and there were nicht red
communist flags along the route. Guandong province is
almost capitalism and no red in it. These chappies are
going to hold the next Asiad and probably win all the
Gold medals like they almost did in Doha. I am once
again inviting you to Macau and check for yourself its
progress without the bharati blinkers. 

I am surprised that your histo friend does not brief
you on his visits to Macau.

BC

===


> I am glad that you have now come of age and begun to
> tackle real issues that are affecting the invaded
Goa.
> BC

No comments here. But unlike the other Colacos (well,
not all... but
at least two others), I don't subscribe to the
colonialism-started-in-1961 thesis. Of course, we have
serious
problems in the era after 1961. But nothing justifies
being part of a
colonial setup in the late 20th century.

You can't just see the world in terms of the
priviledges a handful of
comprador Goan families got (or think they got) under
Euro rule. FN

PS: Okay, last word to you. I'm just going into
ignore-BC mode. BTW,
how do you have such a gem of a brother-in-law back in
Parra?




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Re: [Goanet] Secularism

2006-12-17 Thread nicholas dcunha


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Very well said Roland. I agree with you fully.

D'Cunha.




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  >
  >Albert,
  >Just ask yourself what if there were about 20 like you and Fr Jude
  >writing about God on this forum. Guaranteed to reduce the readership
  >of Goanet to half.

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Should be Kept Secular

2006-12-17 Thread Gabe Menezes

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On 17/12/06, Fr. Ivo da C. Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
.
Jesus was
> secular, even when he revealed his Father. He did not found a religion in
> its strict sense.

Question: In that case, perhaps you could expound on this:-

You are Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the
gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

You are Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the
gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Catholic Gospels -
Matthew, Luke, Mark, John - Inspirations of the Holy Spirit Matthew
16: 13-19

13 And Jesus came into the region of Cesarea Philippi: and he asked
his disciples: who do people say that the Son of man is?
14 But they said: Some John the Baptist, some Elias, and others
Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15 Jesus said to them: But who do you say I am?
16 Simon Peter answered and said: You are Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answering, said to him: Blessed are you, Simon son of
Jona, because flesh and blood have not revealed this to you, but my
Father who is in heaven.
18 And I say to you: That you are Peter; and upon this rock I will
build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And
whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in
heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, it shall be loosed
also in heaven.

URL:-
http://www.theworkofgod.org/devotns/euchrist/HolyMass/gospels.asp?key=15

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London, England

[Goanet] Christmas Cards

2006-12-17 Thread afra dias


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Hi All,
As far as I know, everything starts with a humble begining.
The Story of Christmas Cards goes like this:
According to Jewish law, a loan has to be repaid within 7 years, after this 
period the loan has to be scraped.
It so happened that a jewish gentleman loaned some money to a christian, 7 
years passed, the loan was still oustanding.
This Jewish gentleman sent his friend a card TO REMIND him politely that he 
was not DEAD, and there was no sin for a jew to ask a Christian for the 
money to be repaid on a festive season, when all Employers paid their 
employes festive bonuses .
Unfortunately this Christian had also lent money to his friends who did not 
repay him, so, HE sent Cards during Christmas festive season.
THE BALL ROLLED.
Afra.

[Goanet] Drugs Bought in Goa.


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Any overseas Goans going to Goa on holiday and planning to buy some of
their drugs locally for whatever reason (price, convenience etc),
secure in the knowledge that the products of Indian subsidiaries of
international pharmaceutical companies would be on par with their
European and American standards, had better read this:

http://www.mid-day.com/news/city/2006/december/148668.htm

On top of this, beware of pharmacies in Goa who often tell you that
the MNC product is not available and offer to fill your prescription
with products of little known Indian companies whose formulations you
wouldn't take even if given free if you knew under what conditions
they were manufactured and with what base chemicals.

India does produce raw chemicals and base pharmaceuticals that are
used by top companies worldwide in their pharma products, but these
are held to standards that are closely monitored by their QC
departments while the Indian FDA is a poorly paid and poorly staffed
govt agency.

Anyone familiar with the Lentin Commission report on the 1997 mass
death episodes in Bombay's JJ hospital due to sub-standard drugs
dispensed will know what I am talking about. Very little has improved
after that.

This post is not meant to knock locally available drugs in Goa. Just
to help someone avoid a medical crisis.

Roland.

Re: [Goanet] Graduates of Goa Medical School 1902-1942

2006-12-17 Thread Vilhena Pereira


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Add some more:

Jose Manuel da Piedade Rebelo
Antonio Colaco
Luis Alvares

[Goanet] Mapuca city


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Albert writes
Lots of people own vehicles but we do not have proper parking place. I find 
it so difficult sometimes to park my motorcycle. When I have to go to 
corporation bank, or bank of India there is no parking place at all and our 
beloved municipality has never bothered to demarcate parking zone. Most of 
the shopkeepers have encroached on the road with their rectangular metalic 
frame work and no one says anything to them. They are their men. Municpality 
is ruled by business community and our sucegad goemkars like me are ready to 
roam and roam in circles till they will find  some place to park their 
vehicles or go home and sleep. Even the newspapers do not bother to write 
anything about these encroachment. Buildings are built without an inch of 
land to park their vehicles and this has been going on for years. The rest 
is history
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Re: [Goanet] Goanet Should be Kept Secular

2006-12-17 Thread JOANITA FERNANDEZ


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Goanet is secular and will always remain secular.

"The God" did not create any religion. Human Beings are much above to any 
religion.

On this occassion I agree with Fred that "religion too should have its role 
on Goanet", however no Goanetter should impose (directly or indirectly) 
his/her religious as well as non-religion believes on others.

We need use our faculty of understanding to discern and identify different 
between our believes (religious as well as non-religious) and the Truth, 
before we impose our believes as Truth.

Cip
Goa

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Should be Kept Secular


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The easiest way to keep Goanet secular without impeding anyone's right
to free speech (free as related to liberty rather than to money),
would be to require posts related to God and religious beliefs to be
charged Rs. 450 (roughly USD10) to be given to a charity I am setting
up called "Make A Wish Foundation" that will give all funds received
annually, equally to the following Goan Churches of:

a) Roman Catholicism
b) Gospel Assemblies (popularly known as "believers")

I have not mentioned Hinduism, Islam, Bah'aai, Zoroastrians, Sikhism
and other faiths as their adherents are either not seen on Goanet or
better still, spare us their enlightened paths.

If implemented, see how these posts just disappear. Like a busy room
empties when someone asks an agent "so what do you do" and he says "I
sell life insurance".

[Goanet] God Jesus Christ?

2006-12-17 Thread afra dias


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Hi Goans,
Jesus NEVER said he was GOD.
Who replaced him with GOD?
If God made 'Jesus Christ' as man.
Why couldn't he/she make him into a woman?
After all 'up to 7 weeks, after conception', every one is a female.
Therefore, Original sin being female, God could have sent a female to put 
right what was originally wrong.
And, by the way, why do we not find 'human bones' along side the dinosaur 
bones?
Can someone enlighten me on that?!!!
Afra.
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" Dear Albert,
Yes, we do know that the Koran has some parts of the Bible in it, but do you 
believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and IS God!!!?? In your earlier 
posting you said that the only way to the Father is through His Son, Christ 
Jesus, and was critical about Catholics asking Mother Mary to intercede. 
Well, the Koran does NOT believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and IS 
God.  What do you have to say to that?
Please enlighten me.
D'Cunha."

Re: [Goanet] Kindergarten kid

2006-12-17 Thread Alfred de Tavares


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>From: Bella Rebello-Hamm 
>Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 10:50:12 +0100
>
>And you Cecil Pinto should be called a kindergarten kid?.
>Warm regards again,
>Isabella.
>

Belissima Bella,

Your cryptic message leaves me tantalized:

Would you pls reveal what the intrepid young Cecil P call who what???

Alfred T, an avid collector of Cecilisms!

[Goanet] lifeguards

2006-12-17 Thread Bosco D'Mello

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ON Thu Dec 14 01:34:29 PST 2006, gilbert menezes wrote:

> Heres what Fatima should now do.  Lower the bar for
> qualified lifeguards. Take in guys , who are non
> swimmers, but who have a good throwing arm and loud
> voice. Arm them with orange vests, a lifebuoy tied
> to a long rope, and with instructions to call out
> to all desi tourists who have gone out too far. Just
> like we did with our kids a long time ago.

RESPONSE: Gilbert, I take it you are being cynical above?

- 3 months ago the Govt. came under a lot of flak due to drowning deaths
- Govt appointed GTDC in charge of tourist safety on the beaches.
- Fatima Sa, the chairperson of GTDC, announced that 100 lifeguards would be 
recruited, of which 20% were to be women.
- Now comes an announcement by the chairwomen that only ONE of the 129 
applicants could pass the notified swimming test. So we are back to square 
one, with zero safety on our beaches in the middle of the tourist season.
- Is there no worthy lifeguard in this state?

RESPONSE: Is it possible the GTDC set a very high standard making it 
difficult for the incumbents and the applicants to hold onto or qualify for 
the new lifeguard position?

What's this bizarre limit of 20% women. Why not 60% women if they met the 
standards, why not NO women, if they did not meet the standard?

Suggestions (possibly already instituted) for the chairperson of GTDC:

1) Hire some of the 128 applicants who didn't make it. Pay them a stipend 
for 6 months with the condition they meet the standards at the end of that 
term before being hired as fully qualified lifeguards. In other words, don't 
go looking for lifeguards; GTDC should train them.

2) Who uses the pools at the Swimming complex at Campal? I assume the youth 
living within a reasonable distance. The GTDC can sponsor/finance a program 
that would introduce formal swimming courses that would lead to being 
certified as a lifeguard over a period of 2-3 years. If the program is in 
place permanently, there could be a permanent supply of lifeguards.

On a cynical note of my own, its quite likely that certified lifeguards have 
moved on and out of Goa..or..nobody wants to be a lifeguard as the 
job is not as glamourous as Baywatch makes it out to be.

- Bosco
Toronto, CA

[Goanet] Pope names Indian scientist to pontifical academy

2006-12-17 Thread Frederick Noronha


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Pope names Indian scientist to pontifical academy
By Michael Gonsalves, Indo-Asian News Service

Pune, Dec 17 (IANS) Pope Benedict XVI has appointed noted space
scientist K. Kasturirangan as a member of the prestigious Rome-based
Pontifical Academy of Sciences - and the Indian said he was "extremely
delighted".

"I am extremely delighted to be appointed at the world's most
prestigious academy where over 35 percent members are distinguished
Nobel laureates in various disciplines of natural sciences,"
Kasturirangan, who headed the Indian Space Research Organisation
(ISRO) until 2003, told IANS from Bangalore.

"It was a great honour to receive the appointment letter from His
Holiness the Pope himself," the 66-year-old director of the
Bangalore-based National Institute of Advanced Studies (NIAS) said
over telephone.

According to a Vatican press statement, the astronomer led India's
space programme for more than nine years. He is known for his
contribution to the development and launching of satellites for civil
use, telecommunications and ocean observation.

"I am the fourth Indian scientist to be named by the Pope after (the
late physicist and Nobel laureate) C.V. Raman, M.G.K. Menon and C.N.R.
Rao," he said.

Menon is a physicist and policy maker, a former president of the
National Academy of Sciences and from the Tata Institute of
Fundamental Research, Mumbai (1966-75).

Rao, a distinguished chemist, is a former director of the Indian
Institute of Science at Bangalore and visiting professor at Purdue,
University of Oxford, the University of Cambridge and Latrobe
University. He is also a former scientific advisor to the prime
minister.

Kasturirangan, who worked with the eminent Indian space scientist
Vikram Sarabhai, said the academy membership is for life and the
academy's 80-90 members were selected after a thorough scrutiny.

"The academy members meet biannually in Rome to discuss, debate and
study issues related to various sciences affecting mankind," said
Kasturirangan, A member of Indian Parliament. He has authored nine
books on space research and 220 research papers in international
journals.

Born in 1940 IN Ernakulam, Kerala, he graduated in sciences from the
University of Bombay and obtained a doctorate in experimental
high-energy astronomy at the Physical Research Laboratory of Ahmedabad
where he is honorary physics professor.

He was conferred the Life Time Achievement award by Indian National
Academy of Engineering (INAE), New Delhi, in 2004. He has won several
international awards.

He is a member of the International Academy of Astronautics and an
associate member of the Indian National Academy of Engineering, where
he is currently the chairman. He has been awarded Padma Vibhushan,
India's second highest civilian honour.

The 403-year-old Pontifical Academy of Sciences is under the
protection of the Pontiff and aims to promote the progress of the
mathematical, physical and natural sciences and the study of related
epistemological problems.
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Re: [Goanet] Ballu’s life: A mockery of Goa Libe ration


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Dear Anthony Barreto aka Tony Martin,

Please take a kilo chocolate cake from a Margao bakery, a bottle of
the usual liquor best enjoyed by Ballu Pundi Velip and a bouquet of
flowers and deliver them to him with an envelope containing Rs.500.

Tell him it is from someone in Canada who appreciates his unfurling
and lowering the Indian flag and his services to the Poinguinim
(wherever that is) panchayat  for those long and faithful years. A
Christmas gift, perhaps.

I shall send you the money by Paypal. It is most convenient, costs you
no fees and all you have to do is set up an account. (www.paypal.com).
Or a bank draft if you will, though that will take a much longer time.

Please confirm you will do this and the amount I need to send. Thank
you in anticipation.

Cheers,
Roland.

On 12/16/06, Anthony M Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Balu's Life - A Mockery of Freedom.
Meet Ballu Pandu Velip. He is not your archetypal great man.
He has not won any gold medals.
Forty one years of freedom has not changed much, he says on an emotional note.
He retired after 37 years with not a single penny to take home in
retirement funds.
For all his dedication and steadfast commitment, this exceptional man
was not felicitated with as much as a bouquet by the Poinguinim
panchayat.
Tony Martin.

[Goanet] Goa news for December 18, 2006

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Indian MPs have demanded details of an Israeli tip-off about a
possible Al-Qaeda strike in the resort state of Goa ahead of
New Year celebrations.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061215/wl_sthasia_afp/indiaisraelgoaterrorismpoliticstourism_061215125106


*** India: No terror threat in Goa (CNN.com)

PANAJI, India (AP) -- Indian officials on Thursday urged
tourists not to boycott the palm-fringed resorts of Goa after
Israel warned its citizens away from the popular tourist
destination, citing reported threats of an al-Qaeda attack.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/12/14/india.goa.ap/index.html?section=cnn_latest


*** India's Goa rejects Israeli al-Qaeda travel advisory (AFP
via Yahoo! News)

Police in the Indian seaside resort state of Goa have rejected
Israeli warnings of "a severe terror threat" by al-Qaeda ahead
of New Year celebrations.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061214/wl_mideast_afp/israelindiagoa_061214124222


*** Goa approves casino expansion (Casino City Times)

GOA, India “ As reported by the Times of India: " Goa is
on its way to becoming India's casino capital and guess who is
the capital gainer from this? Not the Great Gambler yet, but
the Goa government.

http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/article.cfm?contentID=163120


*** Tourism impacting Goa's environment, society: Study
(Hindustan Times)

Goa's unbridled tourism is having an adverse impact on the
state's environment and society, says a study sponsored by the
Confederation of Indian Industry (CII).

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1869963,000900040002.htm


*** Israelis Warned to Avoid Goa, a Longtime Favorite Tourist
Destination for Young Travelers (New York Times)

Israel issued a rare terrorism alert warning of a planned Al
Qaeda attack on tourists in Goa during the New Year?s holiday
season.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/16/world/middleeast/16goa.html


*** Demand for scrapping of Goa regional plan 2011 (New
Kerala)

Panaji, Dec 16: Goa government's approved regional plan 2011
has stirred the hornet's nest with several religious and social
institutions, professionals and even celebrities demanding that
it should be scrapped as it would rob the state of its
greenery.

http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnews&id=67370


*** Goa University planning to honour Portugal Prez (New
Kerala)

Panaji, Dec 16: Goa University is planning to honour Portugal
President Anibal Cavaco Silva with a doctorate degree during
his visit to the state in February 2007.

http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnews&id=67332


*** Tourism impacting Goa's environment, society: study
(IANS via Yahoo! India News)

Panaji, Dec 16 (IANS) Goa's unbridled tourism is having an
adverse impact on the state's environment and society, says a
study sponsored by the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII).

http://in.news.yahoo.com/061216/43/6abzs.html


*** In warm-up to Goa polls, Alemao sings dissent note (Indian
Express via Yahoo! India News)

Controversial Member of Parliament from Goa, Churchill Alemao,
who was caught by a sting camera team demanding kickbacks for
disbursing funds under the MPLAD scheme, appears to be
hobnobbing with the BJP.With Goa set for Assembly polls in
early 2007, Alemao emerged as a major dissident threatening to
prop up the United Goans Democratic Party with which he was
earlier associated. Alemao has ...

http://in.news.yahoo.com/061217/48/6ada7.html


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http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 1, Issue 641

2006-12-17 Thread Bernado Colaco


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The below message is a true diversion from the hockey
disaster. In fact the tennis standard is easy meat for
Leander who plays on the world circuit. Anyways that's
the only medal the jai hinds can cheer about.

BC

==


I join Balbir Singh-ji in congratulating you on your
golden triumphs at 
the 
Doha Asiad. You wont believe it, but I was at the Goa
Ground Zero - 
around 
the Bhot Avelino Mansion in Tollecanto - which erupted
into a wild 
celebration when Leander won his second gold medal at
the Asiad ! 

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[Goanet] Rallies and exhbition

2006-12-17 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil


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Programmes on 18 and 19 December

Citizens’ Initiatives for Communal Harmony is honoured to be a
constituent of the Goa Bachao Abhiyan, and appeals to all citizens to
participate actively in the rally organized by the Abhiyan on 18
December and express their solidarity with the call to scrap the
Regional Plan.

We also appeal to citizens to participate in the March for A Free and
Secular Goa Starting at 9.30 a.m. on 19th December at Azad Maidan and
culminating at Azad Maidan itself, where a cultural programme will also
be presented.

An exhibition of artworks on the theme “Towards a Free and Secular Goa”
was inaugurated on 17 December 2006 at Menezes Braganza Hall. The
exhibition was inaugurated by Smt. Kamal Andrade who handed over a
sapling symbolizing Goa to Master Divyan Naik and exhorted him to
protect and nurture this plant. The focus of the exhibition is on the
co-existence of diversity in people and nature in Goa and the need to
celebrate the same. The exhibition will be open to the public on 18 and
19 December, and will culminate in the “March for A Free and Secular
Goa” on 19 December 2006, Goa Liberation Day. 




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[Goanet] Goa Heritage Bachao on 18th December

2006-12-17 Thread Goanet News Service


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Goa Heritage Bachao on 18th December
By Prajal Sakhardande


Tomorrow is the public meeting. Join in large numbers. The day 
after tomorrow is Goa's 45th liberation day. The question that every 
enlightened Goan is asking today is "Are we truly liberated?"

It is an auspicious sacred occasion to re-live the memories of 
our martyrs and some of the genuine freedom fighters who sacrificed their 
lives for Goa's freedom. It is an occasion to salute those freedom fighters 
such as Nilkanth alias Nikubab Karapurkar, Dr Pandurang Moolgaonkar, who 
never availed of the pension but were selfless, genuine heroes of our 
struggle for freedom. It is an occasion to commemorate the selfless 
sacrifice made by our martyrs such as Sardar Karnail Singh Banipal, a youth 
from Punjab who sacrificed his life at Patradevi on 15th August, 1955 and 
has long been forgotten. These selfless sacrifices are going in vain today.

Join in at the public protest meet on the eve of Goa's 
liberation day at Azad Maidan-Panaji at 3 p.m on December 18th and Save Goa 
from the evil designs of the greedy, selfish government, builders, 
politicians and bureaucrats. The whole of Goa needs to rise to the occasion 
to protest against the Regional Plan - 2011.

We are yet to attain freedom. This is a new struggle, a struggle 
against our own people who for their power hunger and greed are out to 
destroy our mother -- our beautiful green natural heritage. The true freedom 
struggle has begun now. We need to liberate Goa from the dictatorial regime 
of our politicians hand-in-glove with the elite builders' lobby who have no 
love for Goa. The rallying cry today is Utt Goenkara! Utt!



Be there on the 18th of December, 2006 at 3 p.m at Azad Maidan, 
Panaji and save Goa. Down with the Regional Plan-2011.

Jai Goa! Jai Hind!


SOURCE: http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=121724

[Goanet] Koran


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Dear Readers
I do not know much of Koran and by writing half things I may insult the 
muslims with my wrong concept. I just happened to read part of Koran in 
which some commandments were mentioned. One of them was visit to Haj once in 
life time, Namaz I think five times a day etc etc but some portion I found 
similar to old testaments. Some muslims on the net will be able to throw 
light on this topic. I think they do not believe in Jesus about his 
resurection etc. Any way most of the religions teach one think-love one 
another. Yet we find it so difficult to love our next door neighbour. I 
remember one day a school girl was knocked down by a speeding car and we 
wanted to take her from Siolim to Asilo. It was just after the school hours. 
The first car that came by was a Maruti tourist taxi. Some christians were 
in and they were not ready to oblige as they were to get to the airport. The 
second was a private car who did not stop at all but finally we managed to 
get one person to take the poor child to the asilo hospital. Very few people 
think about the love for human beings. Sometimes a little help can save 
life. One day someone was driving along and there was a big crowd gathered. 
He was stopped by a mob who told him that help is need to transport a girl 
to the hospital. It was afternoon and this gentleman was in hurry to get 
somewhere and refused to oblige. He went his way and when even came he was 
shocked to see crowd at his place and was told that his daughter had died in 
an accident. He heard some people saying "We asked help from so many people 
but no one helped us to take the child to the hospital. Had someone helped 
us the child would be saved. He had lost everything becasuse he never knew 
to love someone.
albert

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[Goanet] AICHEA DISAK CHINTOP - Dezembrachi 18vi, 2006!

2006-12-17 Thread domnic fernandes


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Razan kelem raitem; dusmanank zalem aitem.

(The enemies had a field day at the kings expense.)

Moi-mogan,

Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA

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[Goanet] Joe's cousin's assets and attitude

2006-12-17 Thread Cecil Pinto


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  JoeGoaUk wrote about his cousin:

===
My cousin is available..
She is young, slim, simple, innocent, virgin, homely, convent educated, God 
fearing etc
She is only 41.
Now, before you ask how come she is so young or late ..
Well, there were many proposals but mostly rejected by her two younger 
brothers who were then
bachelors. Now that they are married and she is not getting on well with 
her sister-in-laws,
she approached me
I assured her to find someone on our popular Goanet.
This is what she is going to take with her (you can term it as dowry)*
Her full share in the ancestors house, properties, Parents (deceased) bank 
deposits etc
Her share alone worth 55 lakhs (Now keep this in between you and me only).
As the parents did not leave behind a 'will', they have all long applied 
for 'inventory'
proceedings she is 'Cabeca de Casal'(head of the family) the process likely 
to finish within
one month. Plus she has two full sets of jewelry and other ladies stuff.
Now, please don't ask me how I know about her V (victory)? Believe me or not.

---

A few questions Joe since you have gone public with your description.

1) Unlike conventional adverts you have not mentioned her height and 
complexion. Why?

2) Other than 'convent educated' you tell us nothing about her 
qualifications. Why?

3) I suppose some folks place a premium on virginity so I will let that 
pass. But please explain to me what is meant by 'innocence'. She has never 
dated? Never had physical contact of any sort with a man? Never been in 
romantic love? Never even perused any matter that might be considered 
erotic? Completely unaware about the process of pro-creation. Is it 
ignorance parading as innocence?

4) The material possessions seems to be dominant in your description of 
your cousin. Why?

5) You have not mentioned anywhere what sort of a man your cousin is 
looking for. Surely she has some criteria? If earlier proposals were 
rejected by her brothers then maybe they will reject new ones too. Doesn't 
she have any say in the matter? Will her brothers then decide how the 
couple lives too? With 55 lakhs at her disposal and 41 years of life 
experiences surely she can make such an important decision herself?

Please do not take offense to any of my questions. I am merely curious 
about the process of advertising oneself for a matrimonial. I am not 
particularly bothered about your cousin but want to ask the larger 
question. What is it that we as a society value and parade while 
advertising a prospective spouse. Are these the same values that others are 
looking for? Are they truly the important ones to make a marriage work?

Cheers!

Cecil




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Re: [Goanet] GLOBAL GOANS CONVENTION FARCE

2006-12-17 Thread goa world


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Well said, Aires Rodrigues!

For a couple of years this event was called 'Gomant
Vishwa Sammelan', this year it is termed and
publicized as Global Goans Convention !  Wonder why
the change?? 

Let the NRI Commissioner present some viable
investment projects like and including B.O.T. or
infrastructure development to the NRGs? Moreover, the
NRI Commissioner should present factual time bound
projects which are on the anvil and proposed to be
carried out by the Goa Government in fiscal year April
2006-07.

Better still, let the NRI Commissioner open up the
archives of the questions raised in the past, the
action taken up since the BJP-Government initiated
this process, and the future course streamlined.

The attention is drawn to the fact that: The
honorarium of Rs.10,000 besides actual taxi charges
for attending to work of the Centre was provided to
the Chairman NRI Facilitation Centre as notified under
Gazette Series I dated 21.8.2003 under the
Facilitation Centre for Welfare of NRI (Goans) (Grant
of Assistance) Rules 2003 and effective from
21.8.2003!

So there was no 'free' or honorary work undertaken by
the Chairman, not forgetting the annual trips to the
Gulf on fact finding mission(s) after every couple of
years!

And the above facts were highlighted by MARIA SYLVIA
FERNANDES DINIZ, Secretary (SGPIAG) & TERENCE
MAZARELO, President (SGPIAG)  ( [EMAIL PROTECTED]
)way back in December 2003, here is a re-run: 

The NRI Goans are also expecting the Chief Minister of
Goa to announce concrete policy decisions  preferably
in writing and posted on the website --on

a) what steps are taken to protect encroachment on
properties of NRI Goans
b) single window for attending to all property and
house construction activity or settling up business
c) delegating powers to atleast one UDC or Head Clerk
and a Junior and Senior Officer to attend to NRIs who
are on short visit
d) provding online (time bound) facilities say by
April 2004 for retrieving property, birth death
marriage records, drving licence power, water bills
e) solatium for dependants of persons dying in harness
so that the widows/children are not exploited by
middle men or the woman going astray due to
loss of the breadwinner.
d) providing educational technical /professional
facilities to children of NRI Goans
f) opening up of Office of the Protectorate of
Emigration in Goa 
g) pension scheme to sea-farers as the measely sum of
Rs 200/ per month isinsufficient
h) subsidy for setting up old age homes in all talukas
i)special concessions for NRI Goans in setting up
industry cottage small scale industry
j) seeking the assistance of NRI Goans in using their
expertise to upgrade traditional skills of Goan
artisans;
k) participation/preference to NRI Goan returnees or
their kin in tenders for development on priority to
check mate the changing demographic conditions
l) policy of GOANS FIRST to be strictly followed from
APRIL 2004 and finalisation of the SMART CARD for all
able bodied persons in employment from 18 to 58 years.
m) standardisation of commonly spoken Konkani instead
of the difficult and understood by few heavily
Sanskritised version; so that Konkani uloi Konkani
bhuroi becomes a reality to save our culture
n) appointing a panel of legal advisors iat the NRI
Facilitation Centre to attend to legal problems of NRI
Goans
o) appointing immeidately judges on contract of Rs
15,000 per month to attend/dispose of all
inventory/legal heirship or succession certificates
and
preferably covering them under Fast Track Courts
p) check on the difficulties encountered in Emigration
Clearance Requirements
q) creating a SCHEME to invite participation of the
NRI Goans to develop/create/repair/reconstruct
immovable assets in Villages of their roots
since many of the  developmental works get bogged down
due to pretext or genuinely paucity of funds. viz;
springs , bandhs sluice gates library home for
the aged, community halls play fields for children
parks reacreation centres etc
  OR major District/Taluka assets which the NRI Goans
can collectively finance and participate as Trustees
viz; Home for the Aged, Homes for the Mentally
retarded, Community Development Homes for Widows
orphans etc or unfortunate women / children; Modern
Conference / Convention Halls 
r) pursue the issue of postal ballots for NRI Goans
s) other issues which the NRI (Goans) Facilitation
Centre is already seized of
t) assurances on safeguarding the over 119 age old
clubs in MUMBAI which are being grabbed by realators
and unscrupulous committee membe

Re: [Goanet] The first Indian to win the Miss World title

2006-12-17 Thread Eddie Fernandes


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-Original Message-
From: Frederick "FN" Noronha

Sorry, I should have mentioned earlier that I got the link via Eddie
Fernandes' http://goanvoice.org.uk/ He puts in a lot of hard work into
it (as I was just reminded during the IFFI 2006 when we ran into each
other over brief periods) and deserves the credit for unearthing all
these interesting links. FN
PS: Couldn't convince Eddie to post GoanVoice newsletter (text
version) to Goanet yet!


Folks,

The credit in the case of this Reita Faria link, as indicated in GVUK goes
to Fritz D'Souza of Intelgrate in  Goa.

The image in the Rediff article is of poor quality and it would be
unfortunate to judge Faria's appearance on the basis of it alone.  I
contacted her a few months ago and obtained the following links:

>From GVUK 6 July 2006:

Reita Faria: Lost and Found  
... Check out the videoclip (2min. 38s) of the BBC interviewing her in 2000.
See
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1045000/video/_1048097_missworld08_faria_vi.ra
m

For more photographs of her see 
http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=%22Reita+Faria%22&ndsp=18&svnum=100&hl=e
n&lr=&newwindow=1&safe=off&start=0&sa=N


Regarding Fred's nagging to post the GVUK weekly newsletter on GoaNet:

Unfortunately the images will not appear and much of the value will be lost.
Those who wish to track the daily updates can go to
http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/ and if you prefer to have the weekly edition
emailed to you, sign up at http://goanvoice.org.uk/mailinglist/index.html

Couldn't be simpler ...

Some of the current features 

Maria Pereira: Millionaire's housekeeper vanishes on way to church
16 Dec: Daily Express (UK). The mystery disappearance of Maria Pereira, a
millionaire's housekeeper was being investigated by detectives last night
... She was living in Bahrain before arriving in the UK

Xavier D'Souza: Bodybuilder makes his mark   
14 Dec: Caymanian Compass. Xavier D'Souza, a Grand Cayman personal trainer
based at Powerhouse Gym, is on a roll. 

UK: Carol Furtado: Merchants of Bollywood
15 Dec: Eastern Eye (UK). Carol Furtado has the female lead in the stage
musical which can be seen at Hammersmith Apollo in London from Dec.21 to
Jan.7. 

Belgium: Michelle Sequeira: Worship of Ankle Bells 
17 Dec: Navhind Times. By Patricia-Ann Alvares. . Michelle Sequeira
captivated audiences in Gemboux when she presented her Arangetram  along
with Belgian, Hanne Doms, in early November this year . Interestingly, Mr
Placido D'Souza,  a Senior Indian Foreign Service (IFS) Officer is also the
proud grandfather of Michelle 

Aspiring lifeguards fail swim test  
14 Dec: BBC News. 

Goa terror threat
14 Dec: Times Now (India). Sources have claimed that at least 300 chartered
flights to Goa have been cancelled following a travel warning issued by the
Israeli Foreign Ministry to Israelis against visiting Goa during the
Christmas and New Year season, citing a serious threat from al Qaeda . 

UK: Welcome to the new holy land
17 Dec: The Observer (UK).  They come to Britain in their hundreds of
thousands, all seeking refuge, asylum or just a better life. And for many,
the first port of call is the Catholic Church. Together they form a diverse
new flock that is revitalising - and reinventing - the faith . Every Tuesday
evening at St Anthony's church in Upton Park, east London, a remarkable
ceremony takes place: a Novena to the saint, by the church's mainly Asian
congregation - Indians from Goa and Kerala . 5,379 words.  

Sick killer hopes for British jail
17 Dec: Wales on Sunday. A seriously-ill holidaymaker jailed in Goa for the
Christmas Day murder of his girlfriend is hoping to be transferred to a UK
prison in the New Year.  Adrian Duggan, 38, who has only one kidney, was
sentenced to life last year, but maintains he is innocent of the 2003
slaying of Catherine Campbell, 43, just days into a two-month dream holiday
. he is still trapped in Goa, where prison conditions are notorious, with
inmates sometimes held 10 to a cell. Family and friends are concerned for
his health as he is having trouble coping with the spicy food . There is no
clean water, the little food he gets is of bad quality and he's been staying
in unhygienic, overcrowded cells.


Eddie Fernandes

[Goanet] Organisations gear up for anti-regional plan rally

2006-12-17 Thread Miguel Braganza


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Organisations gear up for anti-regional plan rally
NT Staff Reporter


Panaji, Dec 16: The opposition to the Regional Plan 2011 is building up with 
political parties, religious leaders, intellectuals and professionals, 
besides non-government organisations joining their hands against the 
"controversial public document" valid for a period of 10 years from 2001 to 
2011.

'Save Goa', which spearheads the agitation against the plan has organised a 
public rally on December 18, at 3 p.m, at Azad Maidan, for allowing the 
public to voice their opposition to the particular document.

The convenor of 'Save Goa', Dr Oscar Rebello has appealed to all the 
organisations - social and religious, all political parties, students 
unions, tiatrists, various communities from Goa, artists, activists, the 
media, the Goa Chamber of Commerce and Industries, and every Goan to lend 
their helping hand and provide the moral support to fight against the plan.

SOURCE: http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=121715

[Goanet] Air Fare: Another Surcharge

2006-12-17 Thread JoeGoaUk


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Air  Fare:  Another Surcharge

It seems all airlines now started  charging additional fees/charge as 
'Congestion Surcharge'
of Rs.150.(eff.Dec.8th ?).

Air Deccan is throwing away 2,00,000 tickets for just Rs.2 (for travel during 
Feb/March)

I tried for for 20th Feb o/w to Bombay, I was lucky to get ticket for just Rs.2 
but on the
next page the final amount was showing up Rs.1, 177

i.e.

   002.00  Air fare to BOM o/w
   225.00  PSF (Pax Service Fees)
   750.00  Fuel Surcharge
   150.00  Congestion Surcharge- NEW 
   050.00  Transaction fee 
   ===
 1,177.00 (Rupees One thousand seven hundred seventy seven only)

So, your ticket is just Rs.2 but taxes & fees are Rs.1,175
(Strangely, if you are lucky, same fare applies to New Delhi etc) 

It also means that there are  no tickets now cheaper than Rs.1,175 (assuming 
one gets a Zero
air-fare offer).  

Few months back, with such airlines' offers, one could travel as low as  Rs.222 
i.e. Re.1 +
Rs.221 as PSF or 99+221=320 or 300+221=521 or 500+221=721

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[Goanet] Jumping in where angels fear...

2006-12-17 Thread Cecil Pinto


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Cip wrote:
How dare you called 'Gaunti Selma' ? Is she not allowed to express her
opinions on Goanet?
--



Dear Cip,

Your chivalry is appreciated but misplaced. You should take the trouble of 
following a thread carefully before jumping in without a clue about what 
has transpired.

1) Selma sent in a very long posting, in reply to Sunith, insisting that 
the word 'gaunti' was not derogatory when used of a person. Stands to 
reason then that she should not object to it then being used to describe her.

2) Selma has specifically given me permission to use the word 'gaunti' when 
describing her. To quote: "As for calling me gaunti, you can call me 
anything you like. Just don't call me simple or homely"

So you see Cip, some people have to bear the consequences of making 
flamboyant statements. Please don't compare apples and oranges. I fully 
support Selma's right to express her opinions. I also have the right to 
expose contradictions or falsities in her opinions.

Cheers!

Cecil

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Re: [Goanet] Goanet Should be Kept Secular


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Dear Fr Ivo, Your post begins by talking about 'religion', then you
limit the subject to Christianity, and finally end with general
conclusions about 'religion'. Would you also extend the same
generosity when you look at all othe religion (and also people who
don't fit into organised religions, or opt for no religion)? The
limitations of monotheism, notwithstanding? Would you also argue that
all founders of religions (other than Christianity too) were "secular"
-- even if this is a contradiction in terms, but let's not quibble
over finer nuances now -- but accept the reality that followers of
*all* religions are sometimes communal, and this gives the religions
they practise a bad name? FN

On 17/12/06, Fr. Ivo da C. Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Religion is one of the dimensions of human nature. Human beings have always
> been in quest of God. God is drawing human beings to himself. What we need
> is toget rid of communalism and distorted concept of God. Secular mindedness
> should not be against religion and God, but against communalism. Jesus was
> secular, even when he revealed his Father. He did not found a religion in
> its strict sense. Organized life, embedded in a culture (and cultures are
> galore), will be our way of living, part and parcel of our
> "being-in-the-world", hence Christian movement has taken diverse cultural
> faces. The Church is the renewed community, living in time and space
> (spatio-temporal dimension of humanity is essential). But basically
> Christianity is a movement of the heart and hence of the way of life towards
> God, revealed in the Person of Jesus Christ, and towards our neighbour. We
> should avoid distortions and communalism, which is basically
> anti-religion... It is also anti-secular, anti-human...
>
> We have the right and duty of discussing "religion" and enlightening our
> minds and purifying our hearts. May this Forum be uplifting and supportive
> in every area of human existence!
>
> Fr.Ivo da Conceiçao Souza (Holy Spirit Church, Margao, GOA 403601)

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Re: [Goanet] Gaunti Selma & Value Reversal

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Since Cip is currently also in Goa, why don't you two guys just meet
up at the Azad Maidan and slug it out in a duel over who is 'gaunti'
and who isn't?

When I searched Merriam-Webster for the word, this is what I found:

The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling
suggestion below or try again using the search bar above.
Suggestions for gaunti:

 1. gunite
 2. gauntly
 3. gunites
 4. Gaunt
 5. go into
 6. Gondi
 7. Goyania
 8. goony
 9. gowany
10. Goiania

And my computer keyboard isn't in Devanagari either (in any case,
there are hardly sufficient Konkani resources in cyberspace). Okay, so
who's contributing to the debate on Goanet? FN

On 17/12/06, JOANITA FERNANDEZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How dare you called 'Gaunti Selma' ? Is she not allowed to express her
> opinions on Goanet?  Cip

> Cecil Pinto wrote:
> > If Selma continues maintaining that 'gaunti' is a positive term then
> > I will refer to her as 'gaunti Selma' henceforward and she should
> > take that as a compliment and have no problem with it.

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[Goanet] Regional Plan-2011

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Dear Melba,

Here's the 350 words from the Su-Raj Horse's mouth.

I am sorry about not keeping it at 300 words. If you want to cut any portion 
of this, then please do not print it. What is said there is a serios matter. 
I have done it only because you have asked for it.

Thanks, rgds

floriano

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REGIONAL PLAN-2011

The term 'suscegad Goemkars' is proved beyond any doubt in connection with 
the Regional Plan-2011. If not, then this RP-2011 would be on the 
implementation route with more than half of it  already implemented. And if 
this was the case, Goa would have its Garbage treatment sites operating, 
highways, expressways, airports, ports, tunnels, fly-overs, roads, bridges, 
bus terminuses, markets, CRZ preservation et al would be in place and Goa 
would be on the road towards humane development.  But no! Goa was 
unfortunate to have a turbulent political scenario in the last decade where 
politicians, instead of being concerned about Goa,  were hugely concerned 
about their pockets and their chairs. The result of all this is the Regional 
Plan-2011.

When contacted by Goan Observer's Melba Antao to do this piece, I gave her 
my party's 'two- word' response straight on the phone 'SCRAP RP-2011'  But 
she wouldn't have it.

At the public hearing conducted by the TCP Department at Panjim PDA, Mala, 
my party has gone on record of telling the Chief Town Planner this:

Quote
You, Mr. Morad Ahmed, have been reduced to being the 'errand boy for the TCP 
Minister. Had the Minister ordered you to shop for his groceries, you would 
be doing it unquestioningly. When Goa Su-Raj Party comes to power, you will 
be re-instated  for your capability of being  the Town & Country Planner.
Unquote
(I am sure Mr. Despande has recorded the above quote somewhere)

Regional Plan has a period of 10 years for planning and 10 years for 
implementation, which periods are independent of each other.  One plans for 
the next 10 years while the previously planned and notified RP is being 
implemented. Once the RP is notified, it cannot be changed, unless there is 
an emergency such as a massive earthquake or a Tsunami, etc.  Goa's present 
RP-2011 is nothing but compulsive painting of the map of Goa by vested 
interests, where the TCP Department has been shamelessly reduced to being 
mere painters, errand boys, cooks and butlers.

Town & Country Planning is a serious job. If the infrastructure is planned 
and implemented, development takes place automatically, in a regulated 
manner.

Floriano Lobo
General Secretary & Spokesperson.

  - Original Message - 
  From: melba antao
  To: floriano
  Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 1:05 PM
  Subject: Regional Plan-2011

  Dear Mr. Lobo,

  this is further to my telephone con. with you this morning.

  Please give me your views on Regional Plan-2011 for my article this week. 
Words-300 by Wednesday noon latest.
  Thanks for your cooperation,
  Kind regards,\
  Melba Mergulhao
  Reporter
  GOAN OBSERVER

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[Goanet] Save Goa - from its politicians!

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SAVE GOA - FROM ITS POLITICIANS!

 Of all the reactions to the notorious Regional Plan 2011, perhaps the most 
shocking has been the reported statement by senior
Ministers such as for Information Technology and Education as well as the 
Hon'ble Deputy Speaker that they were unaware of the finer
details of the Plan and would have to study it in order to comment!

 Since the Minister for Town & Country Planning has confirmed that the Plan 
was approved by the Cabinet and signed by the Chief Minister, are we to 
assume that such vital decisions are being taken without any proper study or 
consideration by those entrusted
with the governance of our State?

 The argument that there should be no agitation against the Plan as the 
matter is "sub-judice" and we should await the decision of the Court in the 
matter is also a specious one. The Court is only concerned with the legality 
or otherwise of the procedure followed by the Government in formulating the 
Plan and not with its merits or consequences.

Benaulim, Goa:
17th.Dec.2007 ---Tony Correia-Afonso

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[Goanet] Talking Photos: Goan Sea Food

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Talking Photos: Goan Sea Food

Do you remembet at least some ?

There are Kul'lio, Vel'lio, Tonkio, Tisrio, Lepo, Tal'le, Banglle, Pamplittam, 
Mannkio,
Sangttam, Sungttam, Bombil, dodyare, Somdalle, Balle or Baye, Tamblle Balle, 
Sheutte, Visonn,
Vagullem or Vagem, Xinallio, Kalvam, Mudoxi etc etc

Do you remembet at least some ?

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=325052381&size=o

All in one, but individual fish seperately available to view, see the link in 
the comments
below the pic.

Should you like to know where one can get fresh see food in Goa (around 
Panjim), please ask.

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Re: [Goanet] Lyrics Konkani Christmas Carol NATALANCHI BH

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Dominic,

Can you kindly let me know which Reggae tune is used for this Christmas 
carol.
Can you send us other Konkani Christmas carols?

Thanks
Filomena

--- domnic fernandes wrote:


> Here is another Konkani "Khuxealkaiechem Gaiann"
> (Christmas Carol), which is set on a Reggae tune:
>
> 'NATALANCHI BHETT' - Sung by Mable & Anthony San

[Goanet] God man


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Albert writes
Jesus forms the bridge between the old testament and the new testament. 
Whatever Jesus has preached while he was on earth is enough for one to reach 
heaven. Jesus has made our religion so simple that it is very easy to reach 
the Heavens but yet this simple law given by Jesus is so difficult for us it 
looks like we have to carry a mountain on our shoulders. If one loves God 
with his whole heart and places God before everything then man will not bow 
before any other gods. Today our body, our wealth, our family has become 
gods for us. Jesus prayed very little. His prayers were not made of our 
father hail mary and glory but with his heart riped open He looked at His 
Father and gave Him glory and praises. Jesus did his normal work. If each of 
us want to do the will of God where ever you may be work with God. Whether 
you are a housewife, a doctor, teacher or lawyer or a government servant 
just work as a true Christian. Today professionals are trying to squeeze 
money from people. Today doctors delay to treat patients and make it so 
complicated poor people have to run from one hospital to another for simple 
treatment. Today the government servants do not go to work evry day and have 
their own private business and yet are prominently seen in churches to 
attend masses to show that one is very holy. This is not christianity.

albert

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[Goanet] Goan Observer

2006-12-17 Thread leo


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Dear Goannetters,

GOAN OBSERVER.

www.goanobserver.com

Goa's first Weekly with fearless reporting, indepth analysis & more.

Goan Observer is the only independent media organisation in Goa which has 
the courage to reflect the grievances of ordinary Goans. Goan Observer is 
able to report news and carry viewswhich other media organisation will not 
publish because Goan Observer is a non profit organisation committed to the 
interest of Goa and Goans. Goan Observer can stand up to pressure both from 
the government and private enterprises because it is run by media 
professionals under the guidance of independent directors including Mr. 
Arvind Bhatikar, former Chairman of MPT, Dr. Francisco Colaco, Executive 
President of Lok Shakti and Leo D'Mello, Business Consultant and Management 
Guru.
Rajan Narayan


Goan Observer Private Ltd came up as a dream and a vision of Rajan Narayan, 
who resigned from being an Editor of Herald some 3 years ago. In true 
journalistic tradition, Rajan always believes in giving to the readers the 
Truth and the Whole Truth. He was getting suffocated when asked to hide, 
ignore and stifle the Truth from the people of Goa. A daring move by Rajan 
to come out and start his own little publication met with tremendous support 
from different quarters and the Goan Observer was born. Very many people 
from different walks of life have credited Goan Observer for contributing to 
the downfall of the erstwhile BJP government which had turned communal and 
dictatorial. But Rajan in all his characteristic humility will say - he has 
only reported what was happening in Goa. It was the people, who out of that 
awareness voted a government out of power. The vote behind that vote was 
that Goan Observer is a fearless, fair and bold weekly. The fourth pillar of 
Democracy was getting stronger.
Goan Observer is non political in its make-up and will be always neutral in 
dispensing out the news. It goes beyond just dispensing the news. It tends 
to be first on the scene of happenings. Its reporters strive to look deeper, 
get an array of views and the editorial team works on giving a balanced 
analytical report to the reader.
We are still growing and need support from readers who care about Goa, who 
want to know the whole truth and who care for better governance. Please 
spread the word around so that there is awareness about what Goan Observer 
stands for. We also appeal for feedback and suggestions from you. Write to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Highlights of the Issue dated 16/12/2006
Destructive Plan - An exclusive look at the space utilization plan and its 
devastating consequences.
Centrespread - Surface utilisation maps of Salcete, Tiswadi, Bardez and 
Ponda
Exclusive - Parampujya Brahmeshanandacharya Swami Maharaj of the Kundaim 
Mutt condemns the Regional Plan.
Minorities - Gurudas Kamat warns that Christians would be reduced to 6.8% of 
Goa's population if the Regional Plan 2011 is implemented.


Regional Plan 2011 is available on a CD.
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Re: [Goanet] God man

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Hi Nicholas
Re your response to Albert, here we have Albert a firm believer largely 
regurgitating what he learnt in childhood cathecism classes. In contrast, we 
have you who appears to have interrogated/questioned such received religious 
wisdom.

The former has deep faith while the latter has deep scepticism! If you have 
read my contributions to Goanet on this kind of issue in the past, my stance 
has invariably been on the side of the sceptic.
Regards
Cornel
- Original Message - 
From: "nicholas dcunha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] God man
> Dear Albert,
> Yes, we do know that the Koran has some parts of the Bible in it, but do 
> you
> believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and IS God!!!?? In your earlier 
> posting you said that the only way to the Father is through His Son, 
> Christ
> Jesus, and was critical about Catholics asking Mother Mary to intercede. 
> Well, the Koran does NOT believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and 
> IS
> God.  What do you have to say to that?
> Please enlighten me.
> D'Cunha.

Re: [Goanet] God man


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It's another religion :-) FN

On 17/12/06, nicholas dcunha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, the Koran does NOT believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and IS
> God.  What do you have to say to that?
> Please enlighten me.
> D'Cunha.
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[Goanet] Skin colour terminology

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Fred used the word 'well pigmented' to describe a dark skinned person. I 
have also heard the word 'coloured' to describe people of dark skin. I 
don't think these words are right. I mean isn't pink a colour too? None of 
the people we refer to as 'white skinned' are actually 'white' but they are 
shades of pink and cream. Would you call a pale skinned person 'badly 
pigmented'? That too would be placing a positive / negative value on an 
aspect that is pre-determined and cannot be changed - except temporarily 
with a lot of Fair & Lovely cream.

A nice Skin Colour chart is available at:
http://www.retouchpro.com/pages/skintones.jpg

I refer to myself as dark-brown, except after an afternoon salt water bath, 
when my skin resembles deep purple.

Cheers!

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Re: [Goanet] Goanet Should be Kept Secular

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Please define the issue as it should be: off-topic or on-topic.
Offtopic posts should be discouraged, and used on the rarest of rare
occasions. I would be happy to posts of religious traditions beyond
Christianity (simply because the latter is already well represented).
Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, whatever. Of course, I won't shed any tears
for atheism/agnosticism because that is well represented (over
represented?) already? It would also be nice to hear women's voices on
religion. FN

On 17/12/06, Vidyadhar Gadgil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Fair enough, obviously stopping all such discussions would be pointless.
> We all have our pet hobby-horses and want to flog them. But some
> self-restraint is called for -- in the past week we have had 10 posts on
> religion which are clearly off-topic, all from the same person. It's not
> as if they talked about the canonisation of Fr. Vaz or some temple being
> built in Goa, which would be on-topic. I responded to Roland's mail on
> this issue, only when we started getting 1-2 of these religious mail a
> day, which in my opinion is excessive. Why not 1-2 daily mails on the
> Flying Spaghetti Monster, in that case? Maybe I should start spreading
> the good word on Goanet. While I consider the advisability of this,
> those who cannot wait any longer for the true word and complete
> enlightenment, visit http://www.venganza.org/
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Re: [Goanet] A HUMBLE REQUEST TO ALL THE CHRISTIANS WORLDWIDE

2006-12-17 Thread Fr. Ivo da C. Souza


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Dear Fr.Vasco,

I am glad to read your message written for all our brethren, who are reading 
Goanet messages.

It is a pity that often we are celebrating X'mas without Christ... You have 
proclaimed the Saviour to one and all on this Forum. May Jesus of Nazareth 
mean a lot to all of us!

You have reminded me of the times in which you were our 'Guruji'; in the 
Patriarchal Seminary of Rachol.

May God bless you! Blessed Christmas with Christ the Saviour to all of you!

Fr.Ivo da C.Souza (Holy Spirit Church, Margao, Goa 403601)

[Goanet] Aitaracheo Kaskutleo: Ek Ugti Chitt SANTA CLAUS-ak

2006-12-17 Thread lino dourado


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  Ek Ugtti Chitt Santa Claus-ak

  Manest Santa Claus,
   
  Amchea bhurgeaponnar ami lhan bhurgim astanam
Natalanchi porob lagim pavta-pavtam tuzo ugddas
kortalim. Christmas Father amchea vaddeant ietolo  ani
khanddar marun haddtolo  zodd sakh ugto kortolo, ani
tantuntle mollacheo bhetteo amchea hatanim ditolo, hi
vatt polleun astalim. Punn, atamchim bhurgim tuka
sapuch visorleant. Ani hachem kharann mhollear tujea
von tankam vhodd bhetteo ditele Santa-Claus meuleat.
   
  Goenche kaim Montri ani amchea Xikxann Montrieak
dorun, iskolan-kollejint xikpi bhurgeanche Santa Claus
zaleat. Atthvea vorgant xiktelea cheddum bhurgeak
funkot saikol ditat. Mhoje dhuvekui-i favo zali. Ti
atthvea vorgant xiktta. 
   
  Saikol dili. Borem asa. Punn, hea Xikxann Montrean,
Bhouxik Bandhkam Khatem (PWD) Montreak zagrut korunk
zai aslo. Bhurgeank saikoli choloupak roste sarke asat
vo na? Na tor durust korpak ugdass potr (memoradum)
dadhunk zai aslem. Mhoji dhuv iskolak savn novi saikol
gheun ghora portotana eka rostevelea fondkulant tichi
saikol vochun tadi-midi zaun hospitalachea khattir
char dis nidhun aizuch ghora haddlea. Fuddle sumar dha
dis tichean iskolak nhoi mhunn Natalanchea Misak
vochunk xokea nam.
   
  Mhozo vhoddlo putui-i pirddear zala. Ghelea vorsak
Xikxann Khatem-an, taka kompuittor dila. Ikravea
vorgan xiktelea vidhearteank kompuittor funkea vantat.
Posrear, bazarant ani hier dusrea vaurant mhojea
poracho adar melltalo. Atam, kitem kai mhollear
disbhor kompuittor ghevn bosta. Telefonachem bil
vaddlam. Online mhonntat tosleo games ani
email-femail, konn zannam kitem tem; hem sogllem
chukoinastana to polleta. 
   
  Zoxem tuka voir iad kelea. Adim, Natalam somoiar
gorib-girest hi ontor nastana tunvem dileleo bhetteo
vhodda khuxen ami sivkar (accept) kotalim. Sakhantlean
ek-ek pottli kaddun amchea hatant ghaltoch, tatunt
asleleo chokleti, poskote, pencil, pen, rubber,
pilluk ani hier zaitem amkam melltalem. Ami khuxeal
zatalim.  Atanche pillgek, osleo vostu ditolo Santa
Claus naka. Tancho demand Honda Activa, Camera mobile,
Ipod, Laptop adi, adi vhodd molacheo vostumcher asa.
   
  Poir mhoje dhuven aplea bapai thaim Natalancho
present magla ani tovui-i camera mobile. Putan,
kollejik vochun-ievnk Activa scooter-ichem magnnem
bapai fuddean ghalam. Ektem, saikol cholloun paim
moddun ghorant poddlam ani cheddo scooter gheun
sorgachi tikett kaddit mhunn bhirant dislea.
   
  Tum vicharxi heo margeleo vostu diunk tancho bapui
tarvoti? Na. Gulfi? Na. Londonkar? Na. Ek sado monis
masugechi nokri korpi aslo. Mhoineachea mhoinea pagar
haddun mhojea hatant ditalo ani hanv home minister
koxim ghor choloitalim. Ghorant xanti asli, mog aslo,
apurbai vostali. Ek dis konn eklo MLA (Member of
Luttmar Association) amchea ghora ailo ani mhojea
mogachea ghorkarak ghanvcho Sarpanch koso nivddun
kaddlo, ani man-respeit aslelea  mhojea promanik
ghorkarak sarkoch ponch korun sodlo.
   
  Mhozo ghorkar Sarpanch zaleleak eka khallar monddira
sarkem aslelem amchem ghor atam bhroxttaracho bazar
zala. Adim mhoineachea mhoinea mhojea hatant pagar
haddun ditalo atam dor sumanank hozar duddvancheo
notti dita. Khoim thavn ietat? Ti khobor na. Vilaxi
(luxuries) vostu ghorant bhitor sorleleak mhojea
putache ixtt vaddleat. Chalu vorsachea Agostant, Vasku
xarant 18 vorsanchea Mandar Surlakar-acho, tachea
ixttanim bhirankull khunn keleleak, ghorant ixtt
mhonnlele naka distat. 
   
  Adim ghorant ters-magnnem aslelem. Atam disbhor
internet, SMS, Cable TV, cholta. Ghorant Devachem utor
na tem polleun altorint aslele Sant-Saibinnicheo murti
pasun pollun vochunk kortat.
   
  Eka khallar bhangara sarkelo mhozo ghorkar fokot
fugsanv-porbek bier pietalo. Atam whiskecheo bottleo
jiroita. Ghorantlo, sokallcho bhair sorta to rachea
kitlea vellar bhitor sorta, hi takach khobor asona.
Adim sumanat ek pavtti tori to mhaka apurbai ditalo
atam mhoinnem sorun ghele tannem mhojea lagim lingi
sombondh dovorlear. Ani hache vixim vicharlear dolle
motte korun mhonnta hanv somaz xevok, tujea thaim
khellunk time na 
   
  Santa Claus, tujea thaim magleli vost tum dinastanam
ravonam. Ek chomotkar korun xime bhair pavtelea mhojea
ghorkarak mhojea sorxim lagim hadd. Adlo mog, apurbai
porto mellta toxem kor. Amchea lagim khub asa. Fokot
ghorant xanti ani sandlelem sukh porot mellunk tuje
upai ghe. Hea vorsak mhojea bhurgeank koslich bhett
naka.
   
  Chitt sompunk nasli. Darachi ghantti vazli. Bapui
aila oxem somzun bhitorlea rumant kompuittor games
khelltolo cheddo ani dhuv (paim kuttun) salant ailim.

Re: [Goanet] A HUMBLE REQUEST TO ALL THE CHRISTIAN BROTHERS & SISTERS WORLDWIDE

2006-12-17 Thread Maria Dias


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Dear All,

It is sad to see emails of this sort being sent worldwide making 
christianity being potrayed as some sort of religion run by extremists.. it 
is very wrong to quote words such as the following:

'Unhappily most people buy and send printed cards, in which "Xmas" is 
already printed. You may perhaps, therefore, like to make such a plea to 
producers of such cards so that at least in future they change the printed 
text. If you think it good, do send the suggestion-request right now: it is 
not early for...Christmas 2007! And what is the meaningfulness, here in 
India, of European style Christmas Cards with pine trees and snow, and 
reindeer and ... Santa Claus? Or cards with no Christian message on it? 
Should we not, if we send cards to our non-Christian friends (and that is a 
wonderful idea !), profit of this friendly gesture to send cards with a 
truly meaningful Christian message?

Ever since we are kids we have been made to believe and have known christmas 
to be snow, pine trees , reindeers etc... Jesus was born in Bethelem isnt it 
the same there  ie. snow et all during the time ? so what is all the 
cribbing about? why is it being compared typically as being a European 
Christmas ??? be it in India or anywhere else in the world it is still 
CHRISTMAS - the birth of our saviour being celebrated 

We all love the holy father, mother mary and jesus and strongly believe in 
the bible Having christian messages printed on the cards is not all 
there is to christmasby sending cards we are greeting each other 
although far away its the same message.. ITS a SIMPLE GREETING! how can 
we give our non christian friends cards that have christian messages on 
them??? would anyone of us like it if they gave us such cards for their 
occassions??? anyone in their right minds would think we are trying to 
impose our religion on them! i know i wouldnt ... cos at the end of the day, 
CARDS ARE ONLY GREETINGS sent to people far away from us!

For Carmo: Does it matter so much to you to if Christmas or Xmas is written 
on the Cards??? why do you go to such petty differences whereby x - meaning 
unknown is compared to christ?does it really matter as to what's 
written? what ever way Christmas is written we are still celebrating the 
birth of christ jesus  and we love him ... so no words or anything said 
or written by anyone should matter ...

guys no matter what cards you buy or what words are on the card no 
matter what clothes you wear ..or if you are pushed to go to the church by 
your elders every day.its the person within you thats important... all 
it takes is a bit of love, honesty, care, warmth and bit of your smile and 
they will make the other person feel loved and cared for in returnthese 
are the qualities which should reflect well on the other person help the 
less fortunate and you will be blessed this is the true meaning of 
christmas  where we welcome jesus in our hearts by being true and kindso 
why give such petty excuses and reasons to people to mock our religion

Please therefore, stop sending such emails in future instead of sending 
these mails, why not divert our energy in helping the less fortunate whereby 
you will be actually acting as true god fearing christian???

Thanks

Maria

[Goanet] Congrats Leander, Vece, Rhea and Baby too !

2006-12-17 Thread CARMO DCRUZ


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Hi Leander,

I join Balbir Singh-ji in congratulating you on your golden triumphs at the 
Doha Asiad. You wont believe it, but I was at the Goa Ground Zero - around 
the Bhot Avelino Mansion in Tollecanto - which erupted into a wild 
celebration when Leander won his second gold medal at the Asiad ! Perhaps 
Aunty Marlaq and Uncle Dr. Pedro Antonio Paes were smiling down from up 
above ! I could feel the pulse of the place and Leander you should be proud 
that the whole of Tollecanto, Velim, Salcete, Goa and India were behind you
and rooting for you and your partners all the way ! I can only imagine  the 
scene at the Calcutta Ground Zero in the Beck Bagan neighbourhood ! Once 
again you have proved that you are the ultimate comeback kid ! We are all 
very proud of you  ! Whats next ? A Grand Slam in mens doubles in 2007 ?
Keep up the tempo !

Best Regards,

Carmo
- in our native Velim, Goa

[Goanet] Reply to Roland Francis


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Dear Roland Francis
The word of God is never interesting one to Goan Roman Catholics. If you go 
to church you may find people reading newspapers during the serman. If the 
word about God written by Albert is not interesting one Roland Francis 
should write one himself and I will follow him and write like wise.I am not 
putting fear of hospitalisation but what I meant is that people clinch to 
God in desterity. Why do people rush to Pota?Most of them are sick and want 
a miracle. I request Roland Francis to read about God which I feel like 
writing and if you do not want to read skip it and go to the next one 
instead of making noise. At least one person on the Goa net may like to read 
what I write.
albert

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[Goanet] Lyrics of Konkani Christmas Carol "DIS TO NATALANCHO"

2006-12-17 Thread domnic fernandes


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Here is one more Konkani "Khuxelkaiechem Gaiann" (Christmas Carol):

"DIS TO NATALANCHO"  Sung by Melba & Chorus

Ho mhoino Dezembracho, amkam soglleank khoxecho
Toieari korunk Jezuchea ieannencho, vavurta lok ganvcho
Ho zavn asa kall khoxecho, ho zavn asa kall Natalancho
Na-a-talancho, Na-a-talancho

Tinga-linga-ling, tinga-linga-ling
Avaz igorjek ghanttecho
Tinga-linga-ling, tinga-linga-ling
Avaz igorjek ghanttecho
Sogllim khuxeal zavn, sogllim khuxeal zavn
Monoviea zolm dis Jezucho
Sogllim khuxeal zavn, sogllim khuxeal zavn
Monoviea zolm dis Jezucho

Jezu zolmola mhunn, anj-boddve khuxeal zavn
Gitam-gaiannam gavn, ballka Jezuxim aile
Dakttulo ballok Jezu, dakttulo ballok Jezu
Aila amkam soddunk, amkam patkantlim soddunk

Tinga-linga-ling, tinga-linga-ling
Avaz igorjek ghanttecho
Tinga-linga-ling, tinga-linga-ling
Avaz igorjek ghanttecho
Sogllim khuxeal zavn, sogllim khuxeal zavn
Monoviea zolm dis Jezucho
Sogllim khuxeal zavn, sogllim khuxeal zavn
Monoviea zolm dis Jezucho

Tinga-linga-ling, tinga-linga-ling
Tinga-linga-ling, tinga-linga-ling
Tinga-linga-ling, tinga-linga-ling
Tinga-linga-ling, tinga-linga-ling
Tinga-linga-ling, tinga-linga-ling
Tinga-linga-ling, tinga-linga-ling

(From Doms antique shelf)

Moi-mogan,

Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA

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[Goanet] New Konkan.tv (konkani Video site) Launched

2006-12-17 Thread JoeGoaUk

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New Konkan.tv (konkani Video) site Launched

konkan.tv

The live Konkani video station has just been launched at konkan.tv. (Thanks
to Rohan Pinto,
who also assured uploading the best of video contents on this site for us folks
to enjoy)

Most of JoeGoaUk's videos are also found on konkan.tv. and more will be added
soon.

This online video website is geared towards only publicising videos from the
konkan/Goa region
in an effort to make "VOCAL" our lesser known culture language and tradition...

The purpose of this site is to help enable the language, culture, tradition,
values,
lifestyles and talents for folks from the konkan region.

Konkani videos on google and youtube get lost in the millions of zillions of
videos that exist
out there, and this site is an aggregator for the community... with hopes and
aspirations of
the creator to unite all under one umbrella, and showcase our rich culture to
the world.

Do extend your support by registering on this site and also forwarding this
information to
your friends and contacts.

Check this one out (when you love some one or something in deep..)
Produced in Goa (Vasco I think) Konkani Video with English subtitles
http://konkan.tv/view_video.php?viewkey=4eeabdbb0a7d494132ee

Read more about Rohan Pinto (with Pic)
http://startups.in/India/story.php?title=Showcasing-sights-sounds-Konkan-community-digitally-1

Congratulations to Rohan Pinto.
Well done!!

Assuring you all my support

JoeGoaUk

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Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc
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Re: [Goanet] Goanet Should be Kept Secular

   * * *  2006  ANNUAL  GOANETTERS MEET - GOA  * * *

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That's right. I agree with Santosh. Also, posts pertaining to all
religions should be equally welcome. On the other hand, my personal
view is that near-communal postings, which try to show someone else's
religion in poor light should also be discouraged or disallowed for
obvious reasons. It gets us nowhere, hardens stands on all sides,
lends nothing to the debate, and overall increases bitterness. (I'm
not referring to Santosh's general critique of religion in general,
which has its place, but the my-religion-is-more-rational-than-yours
perspectives which we see in a big way sometimes on Goanet.) --FN

On 16/12/06, Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Religious posts should not be banned in this secular
> public forum. Neither should posts critical of
> religion. No topic or subject deserves special
> treatment here.

> --- Vidyadhar Gadgil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >My problem is that this kind of stuff is totally
> >off-topic. I have no desire to be flooded with
> >religious mail, however profound and uplifting, of
> >whatever denomination. If I did, I would join a
> >religious mailgroup.

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Re: [Goanet] Goanet Should be Kept Secular

2006-12-17 Thread Fr. Ivo da C. Souza


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Religion is one of the dimensions of human nature. Human beings have always 
been in quest of God. God is drawing human beings to himself. What we need 
is toget rid of communalism and distorted concept of God. Secular mindedness 
should not be against religion and God, but against communalism. Jesus was 
secular, even when he revealed his Father. He did not found a religion in 
its strict sense. Organized life, embedded in a culture (and cultures are 
galore), will be our way of living, part and parcel of our 
"being-in-the-world", hence Christian movement has taken diverse cultural 
faces. The Church is the renewed community, living in time and space 
(spatio-temporal dimension of humanity is essential). But basically 
Christianity is a movement of the heart and hence of the way of life towards
God, revealed in the Person of Jesus Christ, and towards our neighbour. We 
should avoid distortions and communalism, which is basically 
anti-religion... It is also anti-secular, anti-human...

We have the right and duty of discussing "religion" and enlightening our 
minds and purifying our hearts. May this Forum be uplifting and supportive 
in every area of human existence!

Fr.Ivo da Conceiçao Souza (Holy Spirit Church, Margao, GOA 403601)


- Original Message -
From: "Frederick "FN" Noronha"

> I disagree. Like other aspects of human life, religion too should have
> its role on Goanet (though personally I don't subscribe to it). As a
> journalist, it makes no sense to say we should keep off discussions
> which a (signficant, I guess) section sees as relevant to them.
>

[Goanet] Kindergarten kid

2006-12-17 Thread Bella Rebello-Hamm


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And you Cecil Pinto should be called a kindergarten kid?.
Warm regards again,
Isabella.

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