Re: [Goanet] Calling All Goan Chauvinists (concluded)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Rajan Parrikar says "It is not as if the ghatis are here to emulate our relatively civilized ways. Their instinct is to turn every corner they can squat on into a sty just like it is 'back home' whether in UP, Bihar or the village in Karnataka. Slums have sprung up, they have fouled our beaches, our city sidewalks, and our village tintos." My take:- Are the Ghatis to be blamed for the above situation? If they are given work in the cities - mostly by Goan contractors - who do not provide them with decemt temporary housing or toilets - what ar they to do? I have worked with Tribals who out of dire necessity had to migrate to the city in another state for a few months every year. They hated going there because they had to squat in the open and on roadsides. At home they went into the fields far away from their homes. By the way, even today, goans who do not have toilets - either the septic tank, sulabh or piggy varieties still go to the fields or even to river sides! We have them in our village ! What if these same goans had had to go to work for contractors in cities? Where would they go to relieve themselves? May be this is one of the reasons goans do not work for contractors / builders and ghatis are brought in. And in the villages, aren't the goans to blame who rent out their rooms to the ghatis but do not provide them with toilet facility? They charge a fat rent however ! "The goans are concerned about the ghati problem" .. only when they cannot make some money from them. And by the way do you know that there are also goans living in slums in Mumbai ? Should they not be sent back to Goa by the Maharashtrians? marie
[Goanet] Rose day
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. A blooming rose of today will turn out into dry petals tommorrow but the smile on her face never dries till she is dried. 22 nd September is been considered as the Rose day.Let's spread peace n love by gifting a rose to the one whom u hate the most. Do remember the cancer patients on this day.Just remembering them ll cost us nothing. Rgds, Joel Morais
[Goanet] Multicultural Goans in Canada - Cornel
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Arre Cornel patrao, ye kitem??? Your initial presentation had a question (see below for start of this dialogue). Then in your next post, you contradict yourself (see below). Because: if Goans do so much to replicate Goa in the place they live (London - as you describe), then there is NO BASIS for your original bewilderment. In fact if London Goans practice as much Goaness as you claim, (and I have no reason to doubt), it is you who have the beef that "so many Goans want to love Goa, quite a lot, but from afar!" Tum yetha or vetha rre? So you are making a claim / comment, when in your own environs no evidence exists to support the underlying basis of the question. Hem zanam mure tum? So as you see, this supurlo Goenkar (moi) is not confused, neither do I have a "beef". Perhaps your initial comment was YOUR BEEF against Goans who do not patronize the Goan events. Again this is only my explanation for the disconnect between your statements and your stated facts. My response was to help you understand your question. And more importantly my suggestion was to the other 10,000 goanetters in large and small Diaspora communities; as to how they could be connected and continue to "want to love Goa, from afar!" Thanks for your invitation to attend the Goan events in London next year. First I need to visit Selma after her "appurbaen" invitation. I look forward to her "kalchi kodi" for breakfast, ani "pattis" for lunch, ani "ambot tik" for dinner - all finger-licking good. All this for spending the whole day doing the 'vankdem korum bendum' with her 2-year old. How more Goan can one get? For the rest of this year, we will do justice to our last year's bottle of "tendli" and other pickles. With harvest time, we are busy canning this year's batch of pickles made from egg plant (aubergine / brinjall), mango and sweet ginger. This is the first step to next month's annual "dinner and home-made pickle exchange" with about twenty local Indian families. So we have to make at least twenty bottles of miskut. Aiz hanv itlo okupadd. Did you meet / know any of those girls that I serenaded in my last post? Now some are likely proud grandmas. Likely they have only gotten better with age.:=)) Viva Goa. Dev boro dis. Kind regards, GL - Cornel wrote: There is ever so much of Goa that is replicated in the Goan Diaspora especially where a large number of Goans are able to meet. How is your example of other ethnic communities different from what I described above? Please explain. I therefore await your response to the above. - Gilbert Lawrence wrote: If a Diaspora Goan truly loves Goa, they could duplicate its practices and customs in their adopted land; and know the history and geography of Goa. There is nothing new here. It is done by most ethnic groups (European and Indian) that have immigrated to Canada and USA. I do not mean the minimum once a year social event called "Goa Day". Cornel wrote: why so many Goans want to love Goa, quite a lot, but from afar!
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (20SEP07)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. On Wendell Rodricks winning accolades on his show in Paris.and his collections finding space in the boutiques of Europe : VIVA WENDELL DE GOA.C'EST MAGNIFIQUE.NOW PART OF THE PARIS COLLECTION OF DESIGNERS.PORBIM TUCAM.. To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] KONKANI
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Hi Goanetters, I agree with Miguel fully that we Goans should be able to converse in Konkani. If you are born and brought up in Goa then its easy to speak the language or if you have lived here for many years and have local domestic staff. Goans in Bombay speak Konkani because of the Goan staff. I also agree,Tamilians, Malayalees, Bengalies all speak the language among themselves. Especially the Bengalie, they will never speak in any other language to a fellow Bengalie other than Bengali. I'm a witness to that. A Hindu Goan will speak in Konkani to another Hindu Goan. But, I don;t think a Catholic Goan of a certain economic strata, will speak in Konkani, if they know Portuguese they will sepak it or if they don't its English. Unfortunately, no one spoke to me in Konkani and my first school was in Delhi, so its was English/Hindi, which I'm fluent in both and finished schooling in a boarding school in Ajmer. Knowing Hindi it was easy for me to follow Gujarati and Bengali. Having lived in Gujarat for four years, and you hear only Gujarati around you, its easy to follow the language. In Betim,everyone speaks either English or Hindi, from my local grocer, to the vegetable vendor (from Rajasthan) to the post office personal to my newspaper chap. I think its too late for me to learn the language at this age. I find a lot of young goans who hardly speak the language!!! Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami
[Goanet] Call for Articles for North American Goan Convention Souvenir, July 4-6, 2008
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Conventions come and conventions go, but souvenirs stay forever. My Dear Friends, I am Paresh Gurudas Kenkre from the scenic coastal town of Benaulim , Goa and brought up in Mahim, Mumbai. Currently I am residing in the San Francisco Bay Area. As the editor-in-chief, I am responsible for the publication of the Souvenir for our 9th Biennial Goan Convention to be held in San Jose in 2008. Our other vibrant and talented members of Editorial Committee are: Gauri Shekhar Ambe Sara Kenkare-Mitra Ratnakar Pai-Dhungat Milind Parab This effort cannot be successful without the active help and contributions from you all. There are many ways you can help us make this souvenir a collector�s item. Here are few ways in which you can contribute: A. Write �Articles / Stories - Bring up those literary skills; once upon a time you used to write, but now your busy schedule doesn�t allow you that time. This convention gives you the perfect opportunity. Articles can range from fiction, non-fiction, life experiences, experiences of second generation Goans growing up in America , travelogues, favorite recipes etc. �Poems � We all recognize the power of poetry, that spontaneous overflow of powerful feelings as defined by Wordsworth. Like singing, writing poetry is a God given gift. Please share it with us. �Jokes � There is abundance of humor in Konkani. Any funny story you may want to share is welcome. It has to be Goan flavored. Substituting Pedro or Damu Bab for Buta Singh in Sardarji jokes doesn�t make it a Goan Joke. B. Other Ways �Solicit for articles on our behalf from any Goan author you personally know. You may also give us contact details if you want us to follow up. �If you want to republish any interesting article you read in the past. �Photographs of Goan life or landscape Guidelines for Articles We would prefer if your contribution topic matches with the convention theme of �Celebrating our roots, spreading our wings�, but don�t take this it as a constraint. �Articles can be 500 to 3000 words (One to six pages) . �No word limit on jokes or poems �Articles can be written in Konkani (Devnagari or Roman script), Marathi or English . �For republished articles, necessary permissions will be obtained by us. Please let us know if you can contribute and any details you may provide by sending email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call at (650) 571 9381. Deadline for us to receive your contributions is January 31st, 2008. Many people cherish copies of souvenirs for years to come. I have known people in the US, as well in Mumbai and Goa who have shown me copies of souvenir from prior years. I will be making another appeal for our young generation to contribute and would like you to encourage them to participate as well. Regards, Paresh Gurudas Kenkre
[Goanet] Edwin Saldanha: his spirit lives on
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Edwin Saldanha: his spirit lives on by M Braganza While the alumni prepared to host a Quiz Competition in an institution where he had taught , Edwin Saldanha quietly slipped from "current affairs" to "history" on the tenth day of August, 2007. As with all things in his life, the transition took place in an orderly manner with his keen sense of time, place and people. I knew the man closely for 35 of the almost 90 years he lived. Most people know his book "Successful Goan Home Wines".His book on wines has the flavour of "Eddie" or "Mr. Saldanha", as one knew him. It is almost like his footprint in the sands of time. Take the title of the book. It is by no accident that the first word is "Successful". I have not known him to attempt a single thing in life and not be successful in doing what he set out to do. He restored an old statue of St. Britto in the school where he taught me the basics of drawing. He did not attempt to make me an artist as he, rightly, saw no potential in that direction. Instead, he taught me scouting and took me under his wing as if I was his own. The President of India recognised our joint effort and awarded me the President's Scout badge. There were three more boys and eight girls who were successful in getting a similar honour. He stuffed penguins for NIO when he was seventy and painted life size portraits of Vijaya and Madhura Sardessai when he was more than eighty years of age and had cataracts in both his eyes! That was Eddie: successful. Eddie's neighbour and student-for-life like me, Frederick Noronha, quotes him as saying, "My book is the only one in the whole world that tells you how to make wine from tropical fruits." [See full text at http://www.goasudharop.org/ebook/34teacher.htm ] If one wants to make wine of any fruit in Goa, it is there in his book. At his funeral, his only son, Kevin, had this to say," When we were preparing to leave Kenya in the late 1960s, my uncle Eugene offered to sponsor him and us out to the US to which Dad replied that his one wish was to 'bury his bones' in Goa. After almost 40 years, that wish will come true as we lower Dad's body into the sandy soil of the Saligao that he loved so much." Eddie was every bit Goan! At the end of his eulogy, Kevin had this to say as irreverently as his Dad, " I hope no one has smuggled a 'bangddo' into the church. because Dad irreverently joked with us saying that if we really missed him when he died, all we needed to do was to dangle a fried mackerel over his coffin to resurrect him. His love for Goa was intertwined with his love for sea-food and his knowledge on buying, cleaning, filleting and cooking fish was legendary." Even when circumstances [with all five children in America and his heart firmly in Goa] made him to shift to Vijaya Ashram in Arpora, he visited home to see that it was in good shape. It was from here that his body was taken to the cemetery for the last rites. Eddie's heart and soul were always in his home! His wine making ability was as legendary as his ability to do almost anything: buying, cleaning, filleting and cooking fish, besides anything else he could lay his hands on, was legendary. His nature was not poch-pochitt like that of a watery grape or watermelon, it was more refined like a fruit wine. He gave of himself in metered doses so that the receiver may appreciate its worth. The years spent in the Jesuit seminary before he met and married the wonderful lady of his life, Phyllis, may have had a role in this. His spirit was that of sacrifice, like the sacramental wine. Years will dim the memory of Edwin Saldanha as it does of any great man beyond his generation and the GenNext. His book will definitely see reprints or plagiarism or both. Even if that does not happen, every time someone raises a glass of home made Goan fruit wine it will be a silent toast to his indomitable spirit! http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=09177
[Goanet] Konkani & Golgal Goans Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. You said, transcend the religious divide and be based on what is common between the Goans in Goa, whether Hindu or Catholic. That should be the platform for a Goan uniqueness, a sort of benchmark against which the Goan diaspora should measure itself rather than set up standards based on their individual upbringing or way of life abroad. Natekar, I also like the words and views you put in your post. I passed out from college in 1981. We friends had made a study that time about our language,,,it was starting of Kokani movement... please note... We came to following conclusion Two goan college girls when meet .. 90% they will start conversation in English and if goes beyond half hour chances that it will end in kokani is 30%. If two goan college boys meet. 50% they will start conversation in English and if goes beyond half hour chances that it will end in kokani is 90%. If a catholic and hindu college students meet. 95% they will start conversation in English and if goes beyond half hour chances that it will end in kokani is 70%. If two catholic college students meet. 100% they will start conversation in English and if goes beyond half hour chances that it will end in kokani is 30%. If two hindu college students meet. 100% they will start conversation in English and if goes beyond half hour chances that it will end in kokani is 100%. I dont think there is any imporvement in this statictic in favour of kokani... my knowledge tells me that .. it is worsen Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: [Goanet] Multicultural Goans in Canada
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dear Cornel, Its Goa Diaspora... You believe please correct me if I am wrong, that Catholic percentage of Goans left Goa after liberation is very high (may be to the extent of 90% as pointed by FN). Case may be true for the year 1961/62 but not after that. Even before liberation, when New Cabizad came under control of Protuguse many hindu families, atleast 60 families from sattari (many of them left there belongings)who are my relatives left Goa. This was may be around 1850. My grandfather come to Panaji in 1925. Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Fred's subaltern
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Of late I have noticed Fred's frequent use of the word "subaltern". Obviously, Fred seems to a new student of this school of thought that has or made some of brightest intellectual minds in post-independence India. A note of caution, however. Overuse of the word or use of it in low-brow intellectural discussion could kill the word's meaning and significance. Eugene Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Multicultural Goans in Canada
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dear Cornel: You asked: "why so few Hindu Goans left Goa compared to the huge number of Christians well before 1961. Have you got any thoughts on this point?" I think catholics prior to 1961 would find it more easier to adapt in a western christian world than local saraswats because of reasons we all know..food religion etc.. also economic opportunities were very scarce in goa of the 1850s ...i think that explains why some enterprising christians left goa then..hindus ..well they all became "posorkars" :-) but in 1961 when india invaded (libereted , in my opinion) Goa, things changed dramatically..catholics esp. the mestizos had come to believe that they enjoyed special perks and priveleges under the colonial regime because of the religion they both practised..(though the pakhle themselves were rather impartial in general and there isnt any significant proof that they favored christaons over the saraswats) they were probably apprehensive that the hindus would somehow exact revenge for the atrocities committed against them.. the bahjan samaj was finally getting its rightful place as free ctizens and Bhau was begining to set things right...all this made them aprehensive the playing fied became level..in fact slightly in favor of the local hindus..the christaons because of their religion were not ready to assimilate efortlessly into an overwhelmingly Hindu india and were more loyal to the portuguese then to the Indians who they regarded as foreign...( savarkars pitrabhumi poonyabhumi concept at play here)That sparked the massive emigration of christaons out of india and ofcourse a few coissorros, naranas, and other protuguese worshipping saraswats may have followed them... saraswats who had enjoyed the priveleges under the colonial rulers could seamless take a important place in the post colonial society because of familiarity with the language and all..also their innate sense f patriotsim to this land dint motivate them to seek fresher pastures abroad. i think the main impetus for the christaons to run away from Goa was their lack of patriotism to India. of course once safely out hey till today feel the need to bad mouth bhausaheb, make up stories of indian army's atrocities, dabolim merger and all sorts of tales... I have seen many christians Goans who somehow refuse to see themselves as indians but rather as goans..i have never seen a punjabi do that even during the khalistani agitation or gujrati or a UP or a bihari... for some reason it is always the religious minorities who harbor notions of independence..or a sense of belonging to a greater religious community outside the country ..ex i know muslims who passionately talk about chechnya or palestine out if a sense of belonging to their muslim "brothers" but are not concernd with the plight of their fellow indians.. just my thoughts B Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
[Goanet] All-Goan Dubai soccer kicks off today
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. All-Goan Dubai soccer kicks off today The 4th All Goa Inter-village 11-a-side football tournament organized by United Goans, commences today at Iranian Soccer Stadium, Dubai-U.A.E. In the first match, Vaxim Divar will take on Siolim. In the next match, SFX Old Goa will play ABC Benaulim. Two matches will be played daily during the league phase, the first match starting at 4.00pm. A record number of teams from all over UAE have confirmed their entry this year. The tournament will be held on league-cum-knockout basis. Borgeee Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz
Re: [Goanet] Multicultural Goans in Canada
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. There was some small spurt in Catholic migration during and after 1961, I guess because the Portuguese government of the time was offering anyone wanting to migrate not just an easy route out, but even a free ticket (someone correct me if I'm wrong here). But while some (on both sides of the fence, including the Bernardo Colacos) would like to see only communal motivations in migration out of Goa, I doubt this argument could be sustained for too long. Catholics have migrated out of Goa long before the end of Portuguese rule in 1961. Post-1980s migration had more to do with economic reasons, and the entry that a Portuguese passport offered into the more-affluent EU. And such passports were not just restricted to Catholic Goans alone (read an article of Punjabi-raised-in-Norway starlet Monica Bedi and the suspected gangster Abu Salem ending up in Portugal, wondered if they were linked to such passports or why the choice of Portugal). Some years back, I came across 4-5 books about the Mangalorean Catholic community. It might be surprising to learn that migration out of Goa (to Mangalore, coastal Karanataka and Kerala) didn't happen always or even mainly due to religious persecution, as some try to project today. It's logical too, if religious persecution was the cause, why would Catholics migrate of out Goa in colonial times? And Hindu migration out of Goa happened in pre-colonial times, though such subjects obviously need better explanations. FN From: SHRIKANT BARVE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Multicultural Goans in Canada To: CORNEL DACOSTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Its Goa Diaspora... You believe please correct me if I am wrong, that Catholic percentage of Goans left Goa after liberation is very high (may be to the extent of 90% as pointed by FN). Case may be true for the year 1961/62 but not after that. Even before liberation, when New Cabizad came under control of Protuguse many hindu families, atleast 60 families from sattari (many of them left there belongings)who are my relatives left Goa. This was may be around 1850. My grandfather come to Panaji in 1925. -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 List of Indian e-lists http://wikiwikiweb.de/MailingListsInIndia
[Goanet] BrieFNcounters: COLONIAL TRADE ISSUES STUDIED ONLY 'PRETTY BADLY' HERE
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. BrieFNcounters: COLONIAL TRADE ISSUES STUDIED 'PRETTY BADLY' HERE Rila Mukherjee is a historian specialising in South Asia in the first global age, from 1400-1800 C.E., "although my researches frequently take me as far back as 800 C.E." Her research interests include mercantile history of medieval South Asia (Bengal and Arakan), sacred geography, and early modern European history. Some of her recent publications include 'Strange Riches: Bengal in the Mercantile Map of South Asia' (New Delhi: CUP/Foundation. 2006); 'Merchants and Companies in Bengal: Kasimbazar and Jugdia in the Eighteenth Century' (New Delhi: Pragati Publications); 'Rice Culture of Divine Right in a Celestially Ordered Commercial Zone' (in Campus Social, Lisbon) and 'Contested Authenticities in Rethinking History' (Routledge). Presently, she is Professor of History at the School of Social Sciences of University of Hyderabad, in Gachibowli Hyderabad 500 046 Andhra Pradesh, India. She is also a member of the editorial board of "Rethinking History" www.tandf.co.uk Recently she wrote a paper that got titled "Faith and Empire: Vailankanni in Portuguese Asia." She shares some views with FREDERICK NORONHA in a recent cyber-encounter: * How important were the Portuguese in global trade in our [South Asian] region a few centuries ago? Very very important. It discloses early modern networks. * What information could records in Goa give you to gain a more complete picture? Slave manumission (formal emancipation from slavery), and Bengal-Goa trade records * How well (or badly) are colonial trade issues studied in India? Pretty badly at the moment. I have just finished an essay for the Medieval History Journal on this. * Why study colonial trade at all? I am interested in the early modern world and not colonial trade per se. But because the Portuguese networks are situated (in this wider context) , I am interested. * How do the French, British and Dutch trade compare to the Portuguese? More organised, more networks, more commodity flows. * If you had unlimited time and research funds, what would you choose to study in a place like Goa? I would not. * Which regions and archives are the best to study today if one wants to understand trade issues of a past century? Portuguese and then British. French archives come third. Bengal-north Burma-Yunnan is a bloc that interests me at present. * How do you see the community of researchers working on Goa -- their strengths and weaknesses, from an "outsider's" perspective? I think there is too much of fighting on the GRN (Goa-Research-Net). * What topic would you like to study the most in Goa? Goa-Bengal links. * What's your advice to young historians who are, say, embarking from a place like Goa? To work on issues other than those centring on Portugal-Goa interactions and to concentrate on wider issues relevant to the whole region as a whole. - RESEARCHER'S CONTACTS: (M) +91 9985907167 (O) 91 40 2313 3163 Fax: 91 40 2313 3159 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 List of Indian e-lists http://wikiwikiweb.de/MailingListsInIndia
[Goanet] US Dollar in trouble ?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Is it true? I think so. Jim F. New York.
[Goanet] Goa news for September 21, 2007
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** New flight to Goa from East Midlands - Holiday hypermarket [13 hours ago] British Holidaymakers have the opportunity to visit Goa this winter with a new flight from East Midlands Airport (EMA). Starting in February, First Choice ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/4-0&fd=R&url=http://news.holidayhypermarket.co.uk/New-flight-to-Goa-from-East-Midlands-18287131.html&cid=1121008453&ei=fALzRpnNFKGeqwPL1aHEDw *** Heavy rains forecast in Orissa, Goa, Kerala, Gujarat, coastal AP - NewKerala.com [9 hours ago] Heavy to very heavy rains are likely to occur at most places in Orissa, Konkan, Goa, coastal Karnataka, Kerala, and at many places in Gujarat and coastal ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-0&fd=R&url=http://www.newkerala.com/oct.php?action=fullnews&id=3144&cid=1120865184&ei=fALzRpnNFKGeqwPL1aHEDw *** Dempo SC players skip Goa camp - Calcutta Telegraph [1 hour ago] New Delhi: Four Dempo Sports Club footballers didnt join the national camp which started in Goa on Thursday. According to Dempo sources, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://www.telegraphindia.com/1070921/asp/sports/story_8343529.asp&cid=1121065275&ei=fALzRpnNFKGeqwPL1aHEDw *** \'Broiler chicken increases chances of breast cancer\' - Hindu [3 hours ago] 21 (PTI): Constant consumption of broiler chicken increases possibility of breast cancer amongst women, a study by Goa Medical College and Hospital said. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/8-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/008200709210322.htm&cid=1121048530&ei=fALzRpnNFKGeqwPL1aHEDw *** Goa ties up with Triple I for super speciality block - Hindu [Sep 19, 2007] 20 (PTI): Goa government has signed an agreement with India Infrastructure Initiative, a trust run by Industrial Development Finance Company to set up super ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/0-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200709200324.htm&cid=1120979604&ei=fALzRpnNFKGeqwPL1aHEDw *** Goa: Mixing holidays with cricket - Mangalorean.com [22 hours ago] By Jenny Coutinho, Goa Panaji September 19, 2007: Jas Cricket's is five - man army - no comparison's to barmy-army of English fans. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/5-0&fd=R&url=http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=53445&cid=1121024614&ei=fALzRpnNFKGeqwPL1aHEDw *** Jesvil to lead Goa U-16 - Navhind Times [Sep 19, 2007] PANAJI: Jesvil DSouza will captain Goa U-16 football team which will participate in 30th sub junior national football championship for Justice Mir Iqbal ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=092031&cid=0&ei=fALzRpnNFKGeqwPL1aHEDw *** Dempo Dairy launches Bounce Milk in Goa - Navhind Times [Sep 19, 2007] Panaji, Sept 19 Dempo Dairy Industries Ltd has set its goal to meet the growing deficit of milk in the state with the introduction Bounce Milk in Goa. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/7-0&fd=R&url=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=09206&cid=0&ei=fALzRpnNFKGeqwPL1aHEDw *** Congress starts preparing for LS by-poll in S Goa - Navhind Times [Sep 19, 2007] Panaji, Sept 19 With Central Election Commission set to declare the schedule for holding by-election to the Mormugao parliamentary constituency of South Goa ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=092018&cid=1121073731&ei=fALzRpnNFKGeqwPL1aHEDw *** Law and order situation in Goa is normal: Jamir - Navhind Times [2 hours ago] ... with reference to the recent escape by 14 undertrials from judicial custody as well as looting of jewellery shops in South Goa, Mr Jamir said, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-0&fd=R&url=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=092113&cid=0&ei=fALzRpnNFKGeqwPL1aHEDw Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Et all
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sometimes you are Bhandari, other times you are > Bhandare, still other times you are just a > b [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ . Privately you are Chinmay or just a > [EMAIL PROTECTED] The state in which you are is not Goa but the > state of confusion. ;-( > > It does not matter who YOU think I am YOU ARE > CONFUSED AS TO WHO YOU ARE ! Sort out yourself > first. Then go figure others. Miguel, The world record for multiple personalities is held by an American. There is a documented case of a patient believing he was, and providing the names, mannerisms and personalities, of 119 people. I think Goa is now in a position to challenge that record. All we have to do is wait a little longer for the other personalities to pop out... Mervyn3.0 "Either that or you have no idea what a big word like schizophrenic means. I said calling Portugal a third rate European country was tongue-in-cheek. Then I said that I really should have said second-rate European country:-)) If I were schizophrenic I would have said it was a first rate European country. See the difference?" - Mario Goveia - Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Dois académicos de renome vêm a Braga nça para o 6º Colóquio Internacional da Lusof onia 6º Colóquio Anual da Lusofonia, 3-6 Outu bro 2007
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. O Presidente da Comissão Executiva J. CHRYS CHRYSTELLO ACL Mentor, University of Brighton, UK. (information Technology Research Institute ) Reviewer Helsinki University, Finland (Translation Studies Department Publications) Reviewer University of Texas at El Paso (Department of Languages and Linguistics)/The American Translation and Interpreting Association (4th biannual conference) Telefone: (351) 296 446940 Telemóvel: (+ 351) 91 9287816 / 91 6755675 E-fax (E-mail fax): + (00) 1 630 563 1902 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Página da internet: http://LUSOFONIA2007.com.sapo.pt Local: CENTRO CULTURAL MUNICIPAL (Anfiteatro do Conservatório de Música) Praça da Sé, Bragança Portugal CONVIDADOS DE HONRA 2007: Professor Doutor Evanildo Bechara, Academia Brasileira de Letras e Professor Doutor João Malaca Casteleiro da Academia das Ciências de Lisboa
[Goanet] Migrations and conversions
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. I had wrote to Cornel, Its Goa Diaspora... You believe please correct me if I am wrong, that Catholic percentage of Goans left Goa after liberation is very high (may be to the extent of 90% as pointed by FN). Case may be true for the year 1961/62 but not after that. Even before liberation, when New Cabizad came under control of Protuguse many hindu families, atleast 60 families from sattari (many of them left there belongings)who are my relatives left Goa. This was may be around 1850. My grandfather come to Panaji in 1925. Dear Miguel, I would also like to know about people living Goa Post liberation..Pre liberations.would cooperate with you to know the truth...fulfill my desire...to correct my worng notions... Bhandare may be right about the reason for out-migrations from Goa in the immediate aftermath of December, 1961. He may equally be wrong. In any case he was not around then as he was, admitedly, born in 1978! Having said that, it would be nice to have the statistics of persons/families that left Goa in 1962 and 1963, calendar year-wise and categorise it among the then traditionally accepted groupings of "Cristao, Konknno, Bamonn, Bhot ani Moir" . That was the era of the Military rule under the then Col. K.P.Kandeth. [later Lt. General] The statistics of in-migration [again group wise] during the early days of elected Government [1964 and 1965] would also be revealing, although the aim may not have been so much for changing the religious balance as to ensure the merger in to Maharashtra. The demographic change is more of the 1970s and 1980s when Goa began booming as a tourist destination and attracted the smarter, non-labour class persons from the rest of India. Whatever the other findings, I do not believe Bhandare can be faulted when he writes, "the perks and priveleges of being the same religion as the colonial masters(most of the perks and priveleges were imagined) would dissapear..." The Goan people's perception [of themselves] and their reality was as disjointed and erroneous as Bollywood's projection of Goa today. It is almost like the Lonely Planet's projection of a Lamani woman and a lungi-clad man beside a caparisoned "Nandi" bull as representative images of Goa. Assim sao coisas do Mundo; quem nao sabe nadar . o fundo! Mog asundi. Miguel Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433
[Goanet] GOA SHOULD NOT HAVE MORE THAN TWO SEZs: BJP
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Goa should not have more than two SEZs: BJP 27 Aug, 2007, 1715 hrs IST, PTI PANAJI: BJP has demanded that Goa should not allow more than two Special Economic Zones (SEZs) in the state to arrest the `demographic invasion.' "Goa has already notified two SEZs. We don't want more as it will result in forced migration in the state which will stress the infrastructure further," Leader of the Opposition Manohar Parrikar told reporters on Monday. Citing the replies tabled by Goa government on the floor of the House, he said the state should put a ceiling on any further SEZs in the state which needs huge chunk of landmass and power. The official figures revealed that Goa has recognised two SEZs. Seven SEZs, including two which are recognized, are approved by the Centre, while eight more proposals are pending in Delhi which sums to 15 such exclusive zones in the state. Referring to official documents, Parrikar said 98 lakh square metres of land is already allotted by the state government for SEZs while procedure for allotting additional 1.27 crore square metres is in the pipeline. "The land is sold to the companies at cheap price by the Minister by striking underhand dealings," Parrikar alleged. "This land amounts to twice the land allotted by government to industrial development in last 44 years," he added. Of the total SEZ proposals, seven are Information Technology or ITES, three bio-tech, one pharma, one research, two gems and jewellery and one food park, Parrikar said. http://inwww.rediff.com/newshound/ga.html Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Affluence and effluence / to Selma
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Selma wrote: > Ahem, .. I'm currently poolside sipping apple-martinis :-) And I was eating a bowlful of curd at a simple and modest guest-house in Hyderabad while reading it on my cheapo Blackberry (Rs 7.3K). BTW, I'm sure you must have heard of Richistan. I hadn't before this debate started: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10736000 Talk of the Nation, June 5, 2007 · Author Robert Frank discusses his book, Richistan, in which he argues that a new class of wealthy individuals are spending differently than traditional blue-blood millionaires. He describes life in an insulated world of wealth he calls "Richistan," where everything is bigger, and conspicuous consumption is the goal. Robert Frank, author, Richistan: A Journey Through the American Wealth Boom and the Lives of the New Rich; writes the "Wealth Report" column for The Wall Street Journal -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 List of Indian e-lists http://wikiwikiweb.de/MailingListsInIndia
[Goanet] Live music for Daniel Pearl
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. SOUL FRY CASA presents MUSIC BEYOND BOUNDARIES in memory of Daniel Pearl who used to be a part of Mumbai's live music scene. Some of Goa and Mumbai's most accomplished musicians will take the stage backed by a house band called THE MIGHTY HEARTS. The event takes place on Daniel's birthday 10th October, 9pm onwards. Over 25 singers and musicians will pay tribute in an exciting crossover of musical genre's ranging from pop and rock to jazz and blues and everything in between. For more info please call Meldon on 9820282522 Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658
Re: [Goanet] US Dollar in trouble ?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Jim Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it true? > > I think so. Jim F. I don't think the US dollar is in trouble. It is in deep trouble. Ever since the current administrations stoped reporting how much money it prints everyday, the US dollar has been in a free fall. Three years ago I advised my US clients to buy Canadian bank stocks. Canadian bank stocks have appreciated 18% EVERY YEAR for the past twenty years. Three years ago US$10,000 purchased CAD$14,000. Today USD$10,000 is worth less than CAD$10,000. That's a 40 percent return for my clients on the currency alone. Then you add on the 18% ANNUAL appreciation of bank stocks, plus annual dividends of 4%, and you have doubled your money in three years. Middle East residents had better be paying special attention now. Some Middle Eastern countries have already announced that they are de-linking their currency from the US dollar. Mervyn3.0 PS. Yes, I do value George Bush as the "Dear Leader." Get news delivered with the All new Yahoo! Mail. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca
[Goanet] Of Interest to the Goa-ILUG
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. The BOSS development team has announced the release of BOSS GNU/Linux 2.0, a Debian-based distribution with support for Hindi and Tamil: "BOSS version 2.0 successfully released. Finally our Indian GNU/Linux distribution is released on 17th September 2007 in the Connect 2007 program. Features: GNOME 2.18; Orca screen reader; Espeak; gDesktlets; Beryl 2.0 - an excellent 3D desktop; 2.6.21 kernel; on-screen keyboard support; OpenOffice.org 2.2 with support for two Indian languages (Hindi and Tamil), with plans to move to other languages as well; a pleasing desktop background and icons; enhanced BOSS presentation tool; complete Tamil and Hindi desktops; update manager for updating your BOSS to the latest packages." Found this at:http://distrowatch.com/4480 Peter -- www.goanbrides.com
[Goanet] CHURCH GROUPS SPAR OVER MASS
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Church groups spar over mass 20 Sep 2007, 0538 hrs IST,Ipsita Chakravarty,TNN NEW DELHI: Bitterness between two warring factions of the Roman Catholic Church in Delhi seems to have disrupted the Christian spirit of brotherhood and harmony. The Latin Rite and the Syro Malabar(SM) Rite are two of the 23 Rites that form the Roman Catholic Church. The two have co-existed in the city for years, but things turned ugly on August 5, when members of St Augustines SM parish gathered for Mass at St Michaels Latin Church. "On that day, people from the Latin parish started provoking us. They said we had no right to be there and that they were the only legitimate worshippers in that church. A heated argument followed and some of us were pushed and hit. It seemed to be a pre-planned job as the police had been stationed there from 6 am," said Sunil John, an SM follower. A "minority within a minority", the SM Rite, originating in Kerala, follows a hybrid, indigenous form of Christianity, holding its Masses in Malayali. The 1 lakh followers of the Rite in Delhi are under the administration of the Latin Archdiocese, with the Archbishop of Delhi responsible for their spiritual needs. While the amount of "rent" to be paid by the SM parish for holding Mass at the Latin Church of St Michaels is part of the problem, there is more to it. The 23 SM parishes currently existing in Delhi are slated to form the core of a new, independent SM diocese, which is awaiting sanction from the Pope. Viewed as a prelude to the formation of the new diocese, the formation of the new St Augustines SM parish seems to have ruffled feathers within the Latin Rite. "The SM parish of St Augustines, Karol Bagh, which was established on July 29, 2007, is a personal parish," said Reverend Father Jose Edassery, a representative of the SM Rite. This means that, although the parish does not have property of its own, a separate priest is appointed to look after the needs of members of that community and to hold an independent Mass. St Augustines parish and St Michaels Latin parish share the church as per the Archbishops instructions.A Malayali Mass is held there every Sunday. The displaced St Augustines parishioners have not been able to hold Mass for weeks now. In a statement issued on August 18, Archbishop of Delhi Concessavo said that, given the "tense situation," the Malayali SM Rite Mass would not continue at St Michaels Church but efforts would be made to find an alternative venue.Members of the SM Rite held a protest dharna outside Goldakhana Cathedral Church on August 26. The priest of St Michaels parish, Father Albert Pintosaid the problem had been solved and the Archbishop had taken the necessary steps to rectify the situation http://inwww.rediff.com/newshound/ke.html Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Fwd: SAVE MY LANGUAGE_konkani
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Hello Goanetters, I recently communicated with Roshan Pai for help with some words. Here is a link to the GSB Konkani Dictionary he is a part of: www.savemylanguage.org It is managed by four individuals around the world. Many Goans may not relate to some of the translations the site offers; but we should remember that Konkani is quite amorphous, as is any language that is well travelled. For instance, anger will translate as kopu, and aakrodha (raag is not mentioned); the Fuzzy translate button suggests possible analogues--aapaatkaalu, vipathi (both, danger), bhayankara and apaayakaari (both, dangerous). So here's to a language that asks so little of us, but gives a lot; at least to those interested. Imagine making love (not excluding ladainhas, pujas, and cursing across Sumerian geometrized fields) in Konkani as opposed to in English, etc. A blast to last; to say the least--even fine if only for procreation. Venantius -- Forwarded message -- From: Roshan Pai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Aug 10, 2007 10:19 AM Subject: Re: SAVE MY LANGUAGE To: Venantius Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Venantius, Yes, please do recommend the site to Goanet if you can. I am based out of Cambridge in UK, so is Malvika. Ramesh Pai is based in Blore. Veena Shanbhogue is based in Dubai, and Suresh Kamath is based in Singapore. etc etc. Its overall a global effort, and we use the internet to co-ordinate. The German translation was done by a Polish (German immigrant though) friend of mine. All the very best with your Japanese lessons Yes any contributions (proverbs/words) to the cause of our beautiful language would be very much appreciated. Regards, Roshan Pai Editor: www.savemylanguage.org
[Goanet] Konkani & Golgal Goans
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dear Shrikant, If I remember right you are a promoter of Chess and our paths intersected at the "Rain Water Harvesting" workshop in Panaji recently. Your statistics on the choice of language for conversation are very indicative, even if they may not be uniformly applicable through out Goa. In my humble opinion, we have to begin somewhere to encourage our generation and the next to BEGIN CONVERSATION in KONKANI and to speak as much Konkani as possible. The dialect does not really matter as one can understand the other dialect ...or ask if there is difficulty in understanding some word. For example, I learnt that the Saxttikar says "indur" for the rat that we Bardezkars call "Undir". He says "fell" for what we call "Khell" .. We get along. To one who is well versed in the Queen's English, the Londoner's Cockney still sounds like another language. If we focus on what unites us, instead of harping on what divides us, we can truly find a WAY FORWARD in spite of our politicians and so-called social workers and intelligentsia. Mog asundi. Miguel SHRIKANT BARVE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Subject: [Goanet] Konkani & Golgal Goans Message-ID: vinay natekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, That should be the platform for a Goan uniqueness, a sort of benchmark against which the Goan diaspora should measure itself rather than set up standards based on their individual upbringing or way of life abroad. Natekar, I also like the words and views you put in your post. I passed out from college in 1981. We friends had made a study that time about our language,,,it was starting of Konkani movement... please note... We came to following conclusion Two goan college girls when meet .. 90% they will start conversation in English and if goes beyond half hour chances that it will end in kokani is 30%. If two goan college boys meet. 50% they will start conversation in English and if goes beyond half hour chances that it will end in kokani is 90%. If a catholic and hindu college students meet. 95% they will start conversation in English and if goes beyond half hour chances that it will end in kokani is 70%. If two catholic college students meet. 100% they will start conversation in English and if goes beyond half hour chances that it will end in kokani is 30%. If two hindu college students meet. 100% they will start conversation in English and if goes beyond half hour chances that it will end in kokani is 100%. I dont think there is any imporvement in this statictic in favour of kokani... my knowledge tells me that .. it is worsen -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Dubai Soccer - Siolim hold Divar
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. In the inaugural match of the 4th inter-village tournament, organized by United Goans and held at Iranian Club stadium Dubai, Siolim United hold three times champion Vaxim Divar to 1-1 draw. Vaxim Divar went into the lead thru Randall who outsmarts the Siolim defender to score for Divar. Siolim went all out in the second half and equalize to make it one all. In the second match of the day ABC Benaulim who came after a one year ban to beat SFX Old Goa. Benaulim went two up in the first 15 minutes. First it was Urban who opened the account for Benaulim and within few minutes former international & ex-Dempo player Orlando Viegas sent a free kick into the box to set up Frankie Barreto another former international & ex Salgaonkar player to score the second goal. SFX score through a powerful free kick which kept Benaulim keeper Bonnie dazzling under the bar. Russell got at least three clear chances to put Benaulim in the safe position but he hit the side post twice. SFX tried their best to equalize but they were unlucky not to score. The match ended 2-1 in Benaulim favor. Today there are three matches the first match starts at 3.45 pm. borgeee Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] GOVT APPROVES TWO GREENFIELD AIRPORTS IN GOA, MAHARASHTRA
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Govt approves two greenfield airports in Goa, Maharashtra 30 Aug, 2007, 1409 hrs IST, PTI NEW DELHI: An approval has been given for setting up international greenfield airports in Goa and Maharashtra through public-private partnership (PPP), government told the Lok Sabha on Thursday. The airports, for which 'in-principle' approval has been given, will be constructed at Mopa in Goa and Navi Mumbai in Maharashtra, Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel said in reply to questions. These are in addition to two greenfield airports being constructed at Shamashabad near Hyderabad and Devanhalli near Bangalore, he said adding these will be operational by April next year. The government also intends to give approval to construction of such an airport at Cunnoor in Kerala and the process is underway, he said. Patel said the government was encouraging greenfield projects usually through public-private route. Such projects can be undertaken by private sector cent per cent as also state governments, the minister said. Noting that Airports Authority of India (AAI) had 125 airports under its purview, Patel said these needed to be developed, including through public-private partnership. He said the Indira Gandhi International Airport at Delhi and Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport at Mumbai have been restructured and handed over to joint venture companies in May 2006 for operation, management and development through PPP model. To a question, the minister said Cooch Behar airport was ready and can be opened for commercial operations in about a month. http://inwww.rediff.com/newshound/ga.html Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Career Guidance Series on FM Rainbow from today
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Career Guidance Series on FM Rainbow from today The Campus-Radio Career Guidance Series 2007, which recently concluded its c ampus trail, is all set to begin its Radio Series on AIR FM Rainbow from 21st to 30th September 2007. In addition, this year, the event will have a TV Series to be televised on HCN every Saturday at 6 pm, starting 6 October, for the benefit of the larger student community in Goa. The unique 'land-to-air' career event, conducted in 11 educational institutions in Goa, is organised by AIR's FM Rainbow in association with Plus Publications, publishers of Careers: The Complete Guide . Career Experts Abhijeet Naik, Nagesh Sardessai, Vishal Agarwal, Pravin Sabnis, Merwyn Sequeira, M. A. Sundaram, Lucette Virgincar and Sonia Sirsat are part of the resource team. Reputed personalities like Elvis Gomes, CCP Commissioner; Cajetan Vaz, Brand Consultant; Dr Ajoy Estibeiro, Doctor-Entrepreneur; Pravin Sabnis, architect turned corporate trainer; Sherin Antao, trainer; Blaise Costabir, entrepreneur; Dilip Sahakari, investment consultant; Richard Pinto, hospitality consultant; RJs Savio & Bambino, of Limca Book of Records-fame; Deepti Desai, research fellow and member of Antarctic expedition, will also inspire with their success stories. Educational institutions which were part of the Campus Series include Dempo College of Commerce, Altinho; Don Bosco HSS, Panjim; DMS College, Assagao; Zantye College, Bicholim; People's HSS, Panjim; Chowgule College, Margao; Carmel College, Nuvem; Rosary College, Navelim; Dhempe College, Miramar; PES College, Farmagudi and MES College, Vasco. The event is sponsored by Frankfinn Institute of Air Hostess Training, with IMS Learning Centre, Broadway Book Centre and Plus Books as the Associate Sponsors. Herald and HCN are the Media Partners of the event.
