Re: [Goanet] Man arrested for molestation at Bicholim/to Cornel
--- CORNEL DACOSTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Sanny >I do not believe that anybody anywhere should be > stoned to death for anything nor should people take > the law into their own hands as you suggest.. We do > not live in medieval days. The law courts in India > are able to deal with any criminals who have proper > trials and the police force can always be reinforced > to be better fit for purpose. > Cornel > Dear Cornel, This is what Goa has turned into; a lawless jungle of arbitrary action. The law is ineffective, corrupt and unable to aid the common man. The common man inturn has become a vigilante, little realising that such action has no place in civilised society. This brings to mind cowboy Westerns set in the early 19th century, where frenzied mobs would circle prisons to lynch inmates. Heaven forbid if the girl had mistakenly identified an innocent man. Heaven forbid if such an innocent man were to be beaten to death. Heaven forbid if such an innocent man were my father, brother or husband. We reap what we sow in a society. selma __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (22OCT07)
With Parrikar carrying a placard that states: "Scrap SEZs - Scams Exclusive Zones" the refrain from the Goan public is: "...or Scrap Kamat's Govt" To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
Re: [Goanet] God and you and mother Mary
Hi Ed, I had only fleetingly heard of a Black Madonna and hence was not too familiar with the subject. Wikipedia has a pretty good write-up on it if you are interested in the subject. Gypsies is ofcourse the derogatory word used for Egyptians by Europeans. The worship of the Black Madonna is most prominent in Egypt. As I said in my earlier post, the cult of the Virgin Mother, Divine birth, Divine King, all emanate from Middle Eastern mythologies. One of the best books I've read on the subject is "The Jesus Mysteries" by Freke and Gandy. In my opinion it is by far one of the most influential books of the 21st century. That and the "Golden Bough", ofcourse, written much earlier by Frazer. selma --- --- edward desilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > Can any one please elaborate on the belief that > the Gypsies believe in the Black Madonna. > ED, > Selma said: > The Cult of the Virgin Mother, predates > Christianity. > It is infact a remnant of mythology, customs and > prevailing half-truths that abounded in the Middle > East circa 2000 BCE. > > > - > Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone > who knows. Tryit now. > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Bobby Jindal elected Governor of the State of Louisiana
From: Chris Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Goanet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:20:15 AM Subject: [Goanet] Bobby Jindal elected Governor of the State of Louisiana Chris, My congratulations to Bobby. Its an amazing feat considering that some US politicians keep referring to Indians as "Macacas." The political achievements of a first generation citizen will not be news worthy in Canada. In fact, the political achievements of an immigrant are hardy mentioned here since approx 30% of the members of Parliament are born outside Canada. My MP is a Muslim women from Tanzania. One Indian couple from Vancouver arrived in the country as refugees and were both MP's within five years. Here is what the Times of India had to say about Bobby. http://timesofindia .indiatimes. com/World/ The_United_ States/Jindal_ faces_challenges _ahead_as_ Louisiana_ Governor/ articleshow/ 2478539.cms While studying in Alabama, I picked up a saying, "Thank God for Louisiana." Alabama always ranks about 49th in the US on education, health, jobs, etc. Mississippi and Louisiana usually compete for the last place. Maybe Bobby was voted in to change all that :-) Mervyn3.0 Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
[Goanet] Air-hostess ... Part II
Air-hostess ... Part II Well, I am sure, by now you all know who the killer is.. It was none other than the Air-hostess himself. Himself? Yes, the air-hostess was actually a male and not female (the character I mean and not Aplon). We were wondering as to why the group of 'Indian Eunuchs' was shown more than once. We even said it was completely out of question. Later on, it was also shown the air-hostess was very supportive to this community, helping in sending them back to school, financial help etc It was only in the end, all come to know about the killer and the reason behind the killings (as partly seen in the clip). http://youtube.com/watch?v=cwZALCw6c_s The fourth husband was actually a CID (played by Rosario Botelho-Last year's best Actor award winner). The air-hostess caught red handed (she used to kill husbands by poisoning their drinks on the wedding nights). While admitting the killings, the air-hostess confessed as to why she did it. (Obviously, to keep the secret i.e. not to disclose to anyone about the air-hostess being male and not female). She married to them all not beacuse she wanted to but to please them all. And 'killings' (out of fear) seems to have become her passion. Strong message was sent to the Govt. and the society that they (Eunuchs ) too are human beings and not rejects of the society. They too need support and all the help from the society and the Government etc etc For this, there was a louder public applause. Which also indicates the Goan society slowly-slowly starting to accept the community. ( and this made me to make this Part II) Bearing in mind, it was a tiatr competition, nearly half the applause must have come from its own supporters (St. Cruz) like in every tiatr. I would put the whole as 'mixed response'. Aplon's role was challenging, I suppose, no other actress would take up this tough role. She deserved an award for her role but strangely she did not figure in the winning lists. She was looking very beautiful & s**y too. Francis Xavier Gonsalves (as third husband-seen in the clip) got a prize though. It also reminded me of late Christopher Leitao (Chris-meena fame), who once dressed as a girl and attended a carnival dance. Many boys were seen making bee line to have a pleasure of dance with her ( not knowing she was a male). Christopher used to play female role in the tiatr and his most popular role was as 'Meera' and I think this was in late 70s. Air-hostess ...Part I, read here http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2007-October/063407.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://thisisgoa.com/ 0r http://youtube.com/joeukgoa ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Goa bishop in sao francisco
Dear Ariosto & Agnelo Our friend Albert seems to have a big axe to grind against the Catholic Church and the Clergy . He carries a big chip on his shoulder which is so big that it affects his thinking and vision. It is easy to make all sorts of allegations against the Church and priests. Does he have any proof.? If he does what stops him from exposing with proof these so called misappropriations of public money? If he cannot prove it he should hold his peace. Are all your actions above board Mr Albert ? Savio Figueiredo Aldona
[Goanet] Goa's airport plan in trouble
Goa's airport plan in trouble 22 Oct 2007, 0008 hrs IST,Saurabh Sinha,TNN NEW DELHI: Goa may be one of the biggest tourist spots in India but it can't have two operational airports and find their operations viable. Following a long debate over the proposed new airport in the north at Mopa and the existing one at Dabholim, the state had recently asked the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) to examine if these two could be used together. Now the Montreal-based global agency has submitted its report to the state, clearly saying that this will not be financially viable. ''Currently Dabholim handles 2.2 passengers annually. According to ICAO estimates, this figure will rise to 4 million and 6 million by 2014 and 2022, respectively. A totally private airport will require a threshold limit of 12 million departing passengers and 24 million total traffic,'' says the report. So even with a high traffic growth projection, the $325-million Mopa airport may not be financially viable if it is fully funded by a private player. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2479422.cms
Re: [Goanet] Interesting ad ... from Margao
Alfred, I remember Dona Etelvina. The ground shook every time she passed my mother's house and not just from her weight! Must have been all the ghosts of the suckling pigs that accompanied her footsteps. Regret to tell you Dona Berta passed away in September. She was in a Ponda facility and was unable to talk for the past one year. Perhaps the effect of a stroke, though Senhor Antonio will be able to tell you more. As for your coming to Toronto in spring, if you bring along some sharp Swedish vodka we shall guarantee sending you back with the finest Canadian ice wine. But are you allowed to drink at your age ? :-) Roland. On 10/21/07, Alfred de Tavares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rico, > > Dona Berta Monteiro Pereira, Helen Sardinha´s mother, used to teach delicious > culinary creations, at their residential mansion behind Holy Spirit Church, > Margao; > had picked it up from her late mother, Dona Etelvina dos Peres Monteiro, of > Loutulim, > an all-time master chef. Cooking used to be her compulsive passion. > > Remembering her suckling piglet, doce de camarao & numberless other exquisite > delicacies > is, indeed, a very cruel punishment. > > If Berta still carries on I cannot say. She is a few years elder to me and I > am pusing 63. > > Our co-netter, Anton Monteiro, her brother in Torronto, will be able to > inform us. Pls > post a reply, Tony. > http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE -- Roland Francis 416-453-3371
[Goanet] Goa é o mais melhor, seu o heaven na terra, Joe que você balança, afixa mais
Goa é o mais melhor, seu o heaven na terra, Joe que você balança, afixa mais i found it here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAPZB1BumQo can someone translate it please? The song is about.. Old Memories 1980s New Memories - RP2011 ..and the singer is Remo. Padmashri Remo Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://thisisgoa.com/ 0r http://youtube.com/joeukgoa ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html
[Goanet] Goa to become "Googaon", too
To Goanet - You already knew of it from my accounts. Take a look at my gallery, if you haven't yet - http://www.parrikar.org/images/Gurgaon/index.html Now Jug Suraiya does a new number - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Opinion/Jug_Suraiya_Town_and_shitty/articleshow/2477494.cms Goanetters, treat this as a preview of the Goa to come, a grand ghati heaven, in the near future. Warm regards, r
Re: [Goanet] Why India must help Pakistan
Selma wrote: The return of Benazir Bhutto to Pakistan is a promising and positive note for India. Their moderates and secularist are alive and hungry for rationality to return to Pakistan. Now is the time for us to dialogue. -- selma, Pakistan is in the position it is because of US interference in its politics. The US has always been behind the Generals who have seized power. In fact, the Generals could not have remained in power without the backing of the US. The current US administration is currently boasting that it forced Busharraf to accept Bhutto back. Musharraf is now expendable. Bhutto has promised "close ties with the US." India politicians till recently could not see further than their bank accounts. SIngh may have the insight to seize the moment but as long as he has to contend with a coalition that includes extremist, I do not think he is in a position to achieve whats almost available. Mervyn3.0 Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca
[Goanet] AVC-Kuwait to play host to a mega event..
AVC Kuwait to play host to a mega event... Kuwait: The picturesque hamlets of Assolna, Velim, Cuncolim in Salcete, South Goa have a fairly long, sporting and cultural tradition and continues to strive to produce outstanding personalities in the field of sports, culture and entertainment. AVC Overseas Sports & Cultural Association, after their successful first show --Red and Black Nite in 2005, is now set to play host to yet another pulsating event the Enchantment Nite. This unique dine and dance extravaganza will be held at the Sief Ballroom, Ramada Hotel on 15th November 2007 starting 9:00pm onwards. Indias topmost band Blackslade- from New Delhi will be in attendance to enchant the crowd through the night along with Kuwaits Deep Impact. Invigorating DJ Marlon will further add magic to the NITE with retro-trance and hip-hop selections. Check (for group photo of Blackslade) http://groups.yahoo com/group/gulf-goans/message/16018 The event will be hosted by Kuwaits favorite and fascinating Master Compere Lloyd DSouza. Gate-passes for the event are just a phone call away. Contact: 9800986, 9114634, 7651460, 9797348, 9189820. Watch out for more surprises as the event unfolds. Keep browsing for new updates !... www goa-world.com
[Goanet] RE: Thereʼs no question of BJP smuggl ing me: Mesquita
> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:49:35 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL > PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Thereʼs no question of BJP smuggling me: > Mesquita> > > > There’s no question of BJP smuggling me: Mesquita> > > BY > HERALD REPORTER> > > MARGAO, OCT 19 — In a tit-for-tat, BJP Candidate Dr > Wilfred Mesquita has> pooh-poohed allegations by his rival candidate that he > was smuggled from the> Save Goa Front before being fielded as a candidate by > the BJP.> > > “There’s no question of the BJP smuggling me. I was born and > brought up in Goa. Smuggling means bringing illegally from outside.> And, I > cannot be smuggled from Rome, Colombia or South America”,> he asserted, while > speaking at his election office inauguration here this> evening.> > Willy is > correct in that he cannot, under obtaining circumstances, have been could legitimatele "smuggled". The hiccuping scribe should have used "nobbled". As Lord Elmsworth´s archrival neighbour always tries to nobble the Empress of Blandings on the eve of the annual Shropshire farms contest only to be thwarted by the intrepid Hon´ble Gallahad. The mighty question is: Can the worthy doctor be pragmatically nobblrd bact as & when so required? Alfred de Tavares, Cousin of the other Dr Willie & great pal of Churchill, master-nobblers both! _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us
Re: [Goanet] Goan Origin - KONKANI or CAN KANI ??
Yes you are both correct in your assumptions in what you say, Konkani is a language & merits the status the Indian Goverment has said it is an OFFICIAL language of India. It must NOT be lost to the ever-increasing popularity for speaking English or Hindi (of its various forms, all also officially recognised & eons older than Konkani), but this reminds me of the Mauritian Creole, which is not only a spoken language but a written one also. There are many forms of Creole throughout the world, the Mauritian Creole is different to its neighbours, Reunion. Its also totally different to the Seychelles Creole language. Creole, or a "patwa" / "patois" of the American South is also different, some differences within (some are major differences in the "West Indies" also if affected or effected by the "Colonialists" own language, be it English, Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, French etc. Originally devised, or developed so that the "masters" were unable to understand the slaves or bonded labourers, the Mauritian Creole developed from the French influence. But as all languages, eventually if not used, some die out in due course, taken over by the major languages, presently English being the most widely used, but closely followed by Spanish speaking, Chinese, French & of course many dozens of others of which will continue to thrive, as long as English, Spanish & French etc are not forced (as in African countries and smaller islands such as Mauritius) who are "proud" to be associated with England AND France but Creole is spoken in the home, some families now preferring to speak French in their houses, have set aside grandma & grandad's language to speak only French in front of them and outside the home also. So what is the origin of Konkani, was it developed or evolved so that the Portuguese "masters" were kept in the dark when Goans wanted to communicate with each other, ensuring secrecy in their communications? Let us hope that Goans continue the tradition of speaking Konkani in their homes AND on the streets, otherwise the next generation will be so engrossed in alll things USA / European that English may well take over in less than half a century's time. Its been estimated that in the USA the population of Spanish speakers have tripled in the last decade. In the next half century, the majority of the population will be Spanish speakers, and a major turn-about in politics will follow But of course figures are figures and they are manipulated to suit the person who is espousing. LONG LIVE KONKANI... I wish I had been able to continue with my konkani aged 11, but like the Portuguese I learned, it was not used in the UK at the time we arrived (no Goans & no Portuguese influences, much to my mother's delight no doubt), so it was totally wiped from my mind. One of my regrets also! But it snot too late for the next generation of Goans, as long as everyone who speaks and writes it, ensures it is used to the max! John Monteiro Berkshire, England - Paulo Colaco Dias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was surprised that nobody else except Bernado and me responded to Joao Botelho Gomes. I put that down to people not understanding Portuguese. -- Language is indeed a complex issue in Goa. FN -
Re: [Goanet] Man arrested for molestation at Bicholim
Hi Sanny I do not believe that anybody anywhere should be stoned to death for anything nor should people take the law into their own hands as you suggest.. We do not live in medieval days. The law courts in India are able to deal with any criminals who have proper trials and the police force can always be reinforced to be better fit for purpose. Cornel Sanny de Quepem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Goans, These people must be stoned to death like the do in the Arabian Gulf for committing adultery. Do you agree with me? On the other hand such people must not be handed over to the Police cause they are too lenient, the public must first take against such people and then give the police a lame victim with broken bones.
[Goanet] Goa And Portugal: Bonded Through Football
Goa And Portugal: Bonded Through Football Sport and politics should not mix, but despite what everyone says, the history & politics is what makes Real Madrid - Barcelona or USA -Iran or for that matter, India - Pakistan, such a thrill to watch. By this logic, Indians should look with disdain at the English football team, the country being their former ruler. But on the contrary, next to Brazil, arguably England is the best supported football team in India. A major reason for this is the immense exposure and popularity of the English Premier League in India. On a similar scale is Goa's bonding with Portugal. Goa is one of India's smallest states, more renowned for its natural beauty and as a world famous tourist destination, but it has been among the top two or three in terms of its achievements on the football field in India. The passion and emotion that Goans feel for their 'national' sport, football, is well known. Football is the undoubtedly the most popular sport in Goa and is embedded in Goan culture. The history of the game dates back to 1883 when the sport was introduced here by an English priest, before it became the State's sporting obsession. Goa Football Association, which currently administers the game in the state, was originally formed in December 1959 under the name Associacao Futebol de Goa. Along with West Bengal and Kerala, Goa is one of the football powerhouses of the country and home to teams such as Salgaocar, Dempo, Churchill Brothers, Vasco Sports Club and Sporting Clube de Goa. The recent press announcement that Dempo football club had tied up with Portugal's league champions FC Porto for an exchange programme came as no surprise. Now coaches and players from the club will go to Portugal and train with the experts there and vice-versa. The Portuguese ruled Goa for over 400 years. It was a Portuguese colony from the early 16th century after Vasco-da-Gama rounded the Cape of Good Hope to discover the sea route to India in 1498. Portuguese rule ended in 1961 when the Indian army entered this tiny coastal enclave with miles of beautiful beaches and drove the Portuguese away. But the state still has a distinct Portuguese flavour. Portuguese football jerseys always fly off the shelf whenever there is a World Cup or a Euro championships going on. Pubs and bars throughout the state make arrangements to broadcast the games on giant screens and while at the same time, pints of beer and Feni, the local cashew drink, are gulped down. You can argue that, nowadays, this is the scene everywhere in India, but in Goa, one can really sense that the feelings come from deep within. One had to be here in person to actually see the mania that had gripped the state when Portugal reached the final of Euro 2004. The majority of the Goan fans were rooting for their former colonial rulers. Portuguese flags could be seen everywhere. Young and old coloured faces with the Portuguese colours. It was really a matter of the heart for Goa. So much so that even the town church in the capital, Panjim, had joined the euphoria by having a special prayer for Portugal after the Sunday Mass. Believe it or not! Many of the football clubs in Goa still retain their Portuguese flavoured names like Vasco Sports Club, Sporting Clube de Goa, Fransa Pax football Club (now disbanded) etc. You can also see that other Portuguese names are still prevalent in the state on roads, buildings, surnames. Another reason for this affection can be traced to the fact that, after the Portuguese rule ended in 1961; some people emigrated from Goa to Portugal. In fact, as per the Portuguese Nationality Law, even if one was only born yesterday, but had a grandfather or grandmother who was born in Portuguese India before 1961, this person can apply for Portuguese nationality. So there are people who still have relatives spread across both the countries. One can safely say that over the last decade or so, the hatred and ill feelings towards a colonial ruler, have given way to a heartfelt love, at least as far as football is concerned. Sport has a tendency to unite people and whatever bitter feelings Goans had about the colonial rule, all seem to have been bridged by football. Goa might have won its freedom from the Portuguese about 46 years ago, but Portugal and its football team still rules the hearts of many people in this coastal paradise of India. If some of you have not seen or experienced this amazing bond between Portugal and Goa, then here is a good reason to book your tickets to Goa in advance, as Euro 2008 is less than a year away. Chetan Bambolkar http://goal.com/en-india/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=451157 Sanny de Quepem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] URGENT NEED OF CHURCH AND A PRIESTS HOUSE IN ANDAMANS REMOTE HILLY AREA
Dear Friends in Christ Of Goa/India! URGENT PLEASE!!! Can you please circulate and help in the following?: The Pilar society church in Adamans not in Port Bair the main one but the other one in remote hilly ; where the people are very poor and the government has done nothing so far .It is so bad and even the priests 's housing with plenty of big scorpions around.The priest's house and the church is made of bamboo mats with a roof of leaves, with no water supply only rain water,no lights,no phone connections with meagre food supply of dal and rice.You may make an inquiry or in vestigation or send your charity donation directly to the Pilar society marking for the urgent building of a small church and priest housing. Thanks for your kind and generous big hearts .God will definitely bless your generosity abundantly. Arent we blessed by God with so much that we can do something about it at the earliest A reader of your net. _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us
Re: [Goanet] Hague Apostille {IMPORTANT}
Hello Paulo,
My responses are quoted below.
Yes, the apostille certifies the signature of officer issuing the
Apostille. However there is no reply from the CRC-Lisboa as to the
acceptance of documents bearing apostille from india which only
implies their denial, but simply do not want to give in writing as it
may lead them in to trouble. (Breach of Article 3 Of Apostille
Convention)
Also, i came to know from one of the lawyer in lisboa who had
approached to CRC, that the documents meant for filing portuguese
nationality from india bearing Hague apostille will not be accepted.
However no Written statement had been issued from CRC.
Let me mention clearly and we are all aware that one can obtain
portuguese nationality by either filing the concerned papers at
Portuguese consulate or getting the same papers attested from
portuguese consulate- GOA and submit at CRC-Lisboa under POA in favour
of a professsional lawyer.
Now for both the cases, an appointment to portuguese consulate has to
be made which takes several months (As evident from the website).
Therefore if one can afford to hire a lawyer then why not get hague
apostille on all the documents and send it to CRC and initiate the
process. Why should one be a victim of any such lethargious practices
& delays for obtaining appointments being adopted by portuguese
consulate and which is completely ridiculous.
As far as follow-up service with local authorities for geniuneness and
verification goes, let me make it clear that the portuguese consulate
is definitley going to follow their own procedure for checking the
accuracy of documents irrespective of the fact whether those being
either received from CRC or submitted directly to them.
Hence it makes no sense whether the documents are attested by
portuguese consulate and submitted at CRC or documents bearing hague
apostille are submiited to CRC or documents submiited directly at
Portuguese consulate. The Verification and checking is all same in all
the 3 cases.
According to me the only benefit from Hague apostille is that one do
not have to make any appointments for nationality or attestations from
portuguese consulate and can directly submit to CRC by the consent of
professional lawyer and get his/her process started.
However the CRC-Lisboa has been not been confirming from their side
for acceptance of documents bearing hague apostille from india.
Regards;
Shashikant.
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:32:22 +0100
From: "Paulo Colaco Dias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Hague Apostille {IMPORTANT}.
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Shashikant,
If both Portugal and India are signatories to the Convention of 5 October
1961 Abolishing the Requirement of Legalisation for Foreign Public
Documents, I see no reason why Portugal would not accept a document from
India containing the Apostille.
But I think people fail to understand what the Apostille actually certifies.
The Apostille certifies the signature of the officer that issued the
document, not the content of the document.
If there are doubts about the content of the document, the fact that it
contains the Apostille is not going to make anything easier or faster. It
might be a bit cheaper though.
The work of the Portuguese consulates in India is not only of recognition of
signatures from Indian authorities but also the follow up service with the
local authorities to verify if those documents were really issued by them.
This is what takes long. The certification of documents does not take long.
As you must know, the docs submitted through the Portuguese consulate in Goa
are sent via diplomatic mail to the CRC in Lisbon in order to start the
process and then sent back to the Portuguese consulate in Goa so that the
Portuguese consulate can check with the local Indian authorities (office of
births, deaths, marriages, etc) if those documents were really issued by
them. This is to avoid fraud, which unfortunately is common in India.
And that is where the documents then get stuck and the delays occur. They
get stuck in the local Indian Registries. Many times the local Indian
authorities do not bother to respond (because they do not have the time and
also because they do not think they should spend on post to reply and other
times also because they are jealous of the applicants...). Applicants then
have to follow up with the local authorities and many times pay them to
actually process the requests of confirmation from the Portuguese consulate.
This is the reality that not many people know about!
Best regards
Paulo Colaco Dias
[Goanet] Dussehra... the Goan way
Dussehra... the Goan way By Rohit Phalgaonkar The talukas of Goa are treasure troves of cultural and heritage. They interest archaeologists, anthropologists, heritage lovers and historians. The festivals too have their own identity and significance in Goa. Be it the "Tavshaache Fest of Santan" or the "Shigmo" of Sarvan Bicholim each festival is a milestone on Goa's soil. The Dussehra of Goa is commonly known as "Dasro" in Konkani. It is celebrated on the 10th day following the Nine Nights festival. The "Dashmi" or the "Dasam" in Konkani is marked on the Hindu calendar for the celebrations of this festival. It is a grand event in every Goan temple. There is an ambience of purity and divinity everywhere in the air as the temples are illuminated and the deities are adorned and embellished to look celestial. In many temples, the day begins with religious rites early in the morning. In the evening, a procession of the deity seated in a "Paalkhi" is taken out. The "Simolanghan" or crossing of the borders of the temple precincts is also carried out. Various symbolic representations of the deities are taken out in this procession. The "Taranga", "Satreo", etc. are decorated marvelously. The Dussehra of the Shri Kamakshi temple in Shiroda is usually celebrated the next day after the Dussehra celebrations of other places. On the previous day, a procession called the "Ghodo" is taken out. "Ghodo" connotes a horse in Konkani. A golden image of Shri Raayeshwar is mounted on a silver horse. The procession is accompanied by traditional music. The Dussehra of the Pernem Taluka too is quiet well known all over Goa as "Pednecho Dasro". The musical instruments like the huge Dhols, Taaso, cymbals and Shehnai have formed an integral part of this festival. No Navratri is complete without these traditional Goan instruments. The pulsating and lively music of these instruments is very much warlike. The real Goan culture is well reflected during the Dasro. But due to creeping in of the western influence, these festivals are given a modern look. Dhotis are no longer seen worn by men who carry the Paalkhi or the Taranga. Western percussions are replacing the traditional ones on a large scale. We cannot allow the vibrant Goan flavour of these festivals to disappear. After all, Goa has its own unique cultural identity which we have to maintain. (ENDS) Goa Plus - October 19, 2007
[Goanet] 3 Goans in the top 10
Three Goans finished in the top 10 to create history in the National Under 9 Chess Championships which concluded at Bangalore. Mohanan Harikrishnan (ELO 1730) was the pick of the lot. He finished fourth in the Boys' section after beating M. Karthikeyan of Tamil Nadu. Harikrishnan will consider himself unlucky not to finish in the top 3 as he had a brilliant tournament and won accolades from one and all for his sterling display. World Under 8 Girls Champion Ivana Furtado finished 5th after beating statemate Gauri Hadkonkar in the last round. Ivana has one more year in the Under 9 section and we expect her to finish much higher in the next year's edition of this same tournament. Perhaps the greatest revalation was young Riya Sawant who finished 8th in the Girls section. Riya is still eligible for the Under 7 Nationals which get underway later this month in Lucknow. GSCA President Sameer A. Salgaocar flew down to Bangalore for the Prize Distribution ceremony and congratulated the successful Goan players in person. SOURCE: Sameer Salgaocar - President, GSCA
[Goanet] Konkani Songs Singing Competition 2007
KONKANI SONGS SINGING COMPETITION 2007 A Konkani Songs Singing Competition will be held on 9th November, 2007, at the Indian Community (Senior) School, Salmiya, Kuwait, during the GOA DAY 2007 function, organised by the Goan Welfare Society, in association with other Goan Clubs/Organisations, for school going Indian children from 5 to 17 years, in three Groups: Group A - 5 to 8 years; Group B - 9 to 12 years; Group C - 13 to 17 years. A maximum of 3 minutes will be allotted to the participants. Background music will have to arrange by the participants. 3 prizes will be awarded in each category. Names of winners will be announced and prizes distributed on the same day. Last date to submit the entry form duly filled in, is October 31st, 2007. Particulars of participants with Name, Date of birth, Name of parent/guardian, School, Std/class, Contact No. Telephone/Mobile and Email, may be sent to GWS on email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], or alternatively, the entry forms may be handed over to any of the GWS committee members or participating Goan Clubs/Organisations committee members, so as to reach the organisers, not later than 31st October, 2007. For more information , please contact after 5.00 pm on Tel Nos. 2429435/7065878 (Mr. Wilson Coelho), 5634064/9500625 (Mr Sydney Furtado, 5658661 (Mrs Philo Rebelo), 7676528/2655482 (Mrs Muriel Alphonso), 5642160/6662734 (Mrs Sharon De Sousa), 7165438 (Mr. Cajetan Pereira. With Kind regards, Rabindra Pimenta, Kuwait. _ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033
[Goanet] Goa news for October 22, 2007
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Sailor dies after attack by gang of teenagers - Times Online [3 hours ago] A passer-by broke up the mêlée but a 32-year-old manfromGoa, in India, died soon afterwards. Hampshire police said that the sailor had left the Falcon ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2709010.ece&cid=1122455013&ei=-uAbR5KxLpq8qgOBwMTjDw *** No takers for single liquor duty - Business Standard [4 hours ago] As a result, the states producing molasses do not want to see a part of their revenue go to states like Goa, Bihar and north-easternstates where the excise ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/7-0&fd=R&url=http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?autono=301957&leftnm=3&subLeft=0&chkFlg=&cid=1122353867&ei=-uAbR5KxLpq8qgOBwMTjDw *** Goa to introduce legislation to regulate nursing homes - Business Standard [7 hours ago] PTI / Mumbai/ Panaji October 22, 2007 The Goa health department will introduce a bill during the next assembly session to regulate all 155 nursing homesin ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://www.business-standard.com/economy/storypage.php?leftnm=lmnu2&subLeft=1&autono=301902&tab=r&cid=1122452737&ei=-uAbR5KxLpq8qgOBwMTjDw *** Goa\'s complete online news edition - Sunday, October 21, 2007 - Herald Publications [20 hours ago] Indian cricketers take a victory lap on top of the the car presented to Gautam Gambhir as the Man of the match award in the Future Cup Twenty20 ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=3129&cid=1&cid=0&ei=-uAbR5KxLpq8qgOBwMTjDw *** Prospects of cruise tourism in India - Economic Times [2 hours ago] All that we heard is that the government has declared the ports of Mumbai, Goa, Kochi, Mangalore, and Tuticorin to be cruise destinations and with ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/8-0&fd=R&url=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Transportation/Shipping__Transport/Prospects_of_cruise_tourism_in_India/articleshow/2479617.cms&cid=0&ei=-uAbR5KxLpq8qgOBwMTjDw *** Benaulim win All Goa title - Khaleej Times [19 hours ago] By Edwin Ashie-Nikoi DUBAI ” ABC Benaulim (Emirates ICA) overcame CAC Cansaulim 2-1 to emerge the winners in the 4th annual All Goa inter-village football ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/5-0&fd=R&url=http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/sports/2007/October/sports_October666.xml§ion=sports&col=&cid=0&ei=-uAbR5KxLpq8qgOBwMTjDw *** No takers for plan to set up beer gaddas in Goa - Navhind Times [3 hours ago] By Roque Dias Ponda, Oct 20 The idea of the state government to allow beer gaddas in the state by making amendments to the notification of the Goa Excise ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/4-0&fd=R&url=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=102230&cid=0&ei=-uAbR5KxLpq8qgOBwMTjDw *** Goa finds place on the real estate growth bandwagon - Economic Times [Oct 20, 2007] Goa is a province in India located on the Western coast of the country. With miles of sandy beaches coupled with a 'joie de vivre' culture, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-0&fd=R&url=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Goa_finds_place_on_the_real_estate_growth_bandwagon/articleshow/2476767.cms&cid=1122383892&ei=-uAbR5KxLpq8qgOBwMTjDw *** Landslide speeds up Goa NH project - Economic Times [Oct 20, 2007] PANAJI: Some of Goas congested towns may get a respite, once roads are built around them. Ironically, this effort is getting a boost from a strange source. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-0&fd=R&url=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Economy/Landslide_speeds_up_Goa_NH_project/articleshow/2477587.cms&cid=1122428541&ei=-uAbR5KxLpq8qgOBwMTjDw *** Goa\'s airport plan in trouble - Times of India [4 hours ago] NEW DELHI: Goa may be one of the biggest tourist spots in India but it cant have twooperational airports andfind their operations viable. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/0-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Business/India_Business/Goas_airport_plan_in_trouble/articleshow/2479422.cms&cid=0&ei=-uAbR5KxLpq8qgOBwMTjDw Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] God and you and mother Mary
Hi All, Can any one please elaborate on the belief that the Gypsies believe in the Black Madonna. ED, Selma said: The Cult of the Virgin Mother, predates Christianity. It is infact a remnant of mythology, customs and prevailing half-truths that abounded in the Middle East circa 2000 BCE. - Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now.
Re: [Goanet] Goa bishop in San Francisco - A reply to Joaquim Pereira
Fr Pereira, I noticed that you rushed to reply to Albert's concerns and to clarify a point made by Ariosto on the trivial subject of your Bishop's trip to Frisco. On the other hand you have consistently ignored Cornel D'Costa's questions about the role played by the clergy in Goa's caste system. I think from the tone of his questions, that Cornel too is "hurt about a few things". In fact I too have always been curious about this very question. I know nothing about the history and backgound of the practices of the Church in Goa as they relate to the caste system then. All I have observed in my youth was the discrimination, some silent some not so silent emanating from the mostly Brahmin clergy of that time. From family experience, I can attest to that first-hand though it was spoke mainly in hushed tones. Now, I know that you are not responsible for the history of the Catholic religious hierarchy in Goa, but don't you think that if there have been deep malpractices that obtained at one period, the Church in Goa must stand up and admit those wrongs. A lot of people were hurt by the caste system in Goa. They were hurt enough in their personal social and economic life by such practices. But to have the Church also indulge in them must have broken their backs. Time to describe it, admit it and move on dear Joaquim. Those who were hurt or even those who were not would like to see a certain closure. A mea culpa of the kind that your flock are called to make at the confessional as often as possible. Or else it will be nothing more than the sweeping away of another chapter not unlike the ongoing sexual molestation saga relating to which the higher ups of the Church have made a humongous boo-boo that essentially negated all the goodwill the church has built up with all the creditable work it has ever done. There too the problem was not the evil doings of a minuscule part of the clergy, but the protection of the perpetrators. Roland. On 10/20/07, Joaquim Loiola Pereira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Agnelo Gomes' and Ariosto Coelho's reactions to Albert D'Souza' letters re. > above topic are most welcome. Albert's letter too is welcome. He is hurt > about a few things and he should feel free to express himself in this forum, > provided he doesn't hurt others much. This letter, however, goes to clarify > a point made by Ariosto, which, to my mind, could send other minds off at a > tangent.
Re: [Goanet] Interesting ad ... from Margao
Rico, Dona Berta Monteiro Pereira, Helen Sardinha´s mother, used to teach delicious culinary creations, at their residential mansion behind Holy Spirit Church, Margao; had picked it up from her late mother, Dona Etelvina dos Peres Monteiro, of Loutulim, an all-time master chef. Cooking used to be her compulsive passion. Remembering her suckling piglet, doce de camarao & numberless other exquisite delicacies is, indeed, a very cruel punishment. If Berta still carries on I cannot say. She is a few years elder to me and I am pusing 63. Our co-netter, Anton Monteiro, her brother in Torronto, will be able to inform us. Pls post a reply, Tony. Will be visiting my nephew, Neil, you & other friends in Canada next spring. Alfred> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:39:01 +0530> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org> Subject: [Goanet] Interesting ad ... from Margao> > Just came across this (fairly old) ad in my newspaper clippings:> > Diploma/crash tailoring courses for ladies. Teaching exquisite> garments with individual coaching: Instituto Artes Feminas (Government> Authorised), 69/480, Abade Faria Road, Margao Ph 2730015.> > Wonder if Goanetters know of other home run enterprises that pass on> skills in Goa? FN> -- > Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490> 11866 downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE
Re: [Goanet] About JoeGoaUk's work on the Net.
Joe is doing a great job. We need more JoeGoaUKs on the Net. Even if I occasionally rib him about being the Scarlet Pimpernel of Goanet :-) FN On 20/10/2007, Edward Verdes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do really appreciate your work, though I may not express it so often...you > are doing a great job for our > Maim BhassAmi Goemkars do not realise the value of our maim Bhass but > when we are > in foren lands we miss Our maim bhass...I am in tears sometimes when I see > your tiatr clips... -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 11866 downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
[Goanet] Hi Ervell relating to The Ugly Goan
Hi Ervell, I really do not know You. I don't know ur age or where u come from(your roots) but I totally agree with what u wrote about this bad side of us goans. Earlier I felt it running in my mind against all the usuall hyped ideas that we r sweet in nature, friendly warm hearted. But with time I know what a true Goan is and I keep telling friends what the reality is. True a Goan likes to pull another Goan down. Few examples... I know a very few Goans(shippees and gulfees) whom I would always keep in touch asking to try for me for a job abroad. Always I got promises. Even my close relatives let me down when it came to really practising what they promised. Infact this bad habit runs in schools where there is groupism and u will always find a nature of hurting, selfishness even in the jokes they crack in their peers. Perhaps we really do not have good ethical behaviour of giving respect. Perhaps mom and dad is busy making money as they value money above good values. Infact we need to learn a lot from the rest of Indians. Also You written well about this ill nature of gossiping. This brings fear in the spciety as u always have to take others approval/consent. This kills our true spirit and freedom of speech curbed. Another issue is that we see from what meets the eye but forget to look at problem from a distance. We think we have captured the world with our little money infact not realising that the there are more wealthier people elsewhere and we better shut our boasting mouth up. Well would be looking forward to hear more from what u write. Caetano, Citibank-Dubai
[Goanet] Bobby Jindal elected Governor of the State of Louisiana
Republican Bobby Jindal has been elected the Louisiana governor after beating 11 rivals to be the first politician of South Asian (Indian) origin and the country's youngest to become the governor of an American state. The Oxford-educated dashing politician will be America's youngest governor when he takes charge in January 2008. No one has won a governor primary outright until now in Louisiana. "My mom and dad came to this country in pursuit of the American dream," a visibly pleased Jindal told his cheering supporters. "And guess what happened. They found the dream to be alive and well right here in Louisiana." "Let's give our homeland.a fresh start," he added, with his wife Supriya Jolly by his side, carrying the youngeest of three children. "The American dream is alive and kicking!" The victoruy is significant because Louisiana is not home to a large Indian-American population unlike some other major swtates. And yet Jindal won, banking on his reputation as one who fixed up the state's healthcare system and as a fighter against corruption. The victory also led to celebrations in his parents' ancestral village in faraway Punjab where Gulshan Jindal,m a cousin, said "We are really proud that Bobby has won the governor'ws race. He has made us all happy and proud." Credit to: Hindustan Times, Sunday Oct. 21, 2007
[Goanet] 26th Oct.FRIDAY BALCAO:Investor Awareness, Protection & Grievances Redressal in Goa.
- Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO Dear Cybergaonkars on Goanet, We continue with FRIDAY BALCAO on 26th October from 4pm. to 6pm. at Goa Desc Resource Centre No. 11, Liberty Apartments, Feira Alta, Mapusa Goa. TOPIC: Investor Awareness, Protection & Grievances Redressal in Goa SPEAKER: Vijay Samant - consultant (investor & consumer grievances) We invite you to express your viewpoint by attending the Friday Balcao event but if you cannot attend, then please send your views and action plan suggestions by post to FRIDAY BALCAO Post Box 78, Mapusa 403 507 or by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] best wishes, Roland Martins Don't miss out on the discussion. Information is power, Share it equitably. Lets make things happen in Goa !! - GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Working On Issues Of Development & Democracy = __._,_.___
[Goanet] 43 year old held for molesting minor in Bicholim
-- Samir Umarye BICHOLIM OCT 21: A 43 year old parent from Vathadev was today arrested by the Bicholim police in connection with molestation of a nine year old girl from a school. According to the available information the incident occurred on Tuesday at about 7.30 am near the school premises of Our Lady of Grace High School. One Subhani Desai (43) from Vathadev Bicholim had gone to drop his girl to school. After dropping her he waited near the school passage going towards the girls toilet. Soon he saw a girl from standard Vth coming in the direction of the toilet. When the girl reached the toilet, seeing no one around the accused fondled with her . Stunned with the incident the girl narrated the entire incident to her parents in the evening who in turn contacted the Headmistress, Coutin Dias. As the girl was unable to identify the molester the school parents decided to keep a vigil near the school. Today in the morning the girl happened to see the molester who had come to drop his own girl to the school. The people around caught hold of the accused and thrashed him black and blue. When the molester came to know that there is no escape from the mob he rescued himself and ran to the Bicholim police station. Based upon a formal complaint already registered by the Headmistress the Bicholim police arrested the molester under section 354 IPC and section 8 (1) of the Goa Children's Act. He was later remanded to two days police custody. PSI, Tukaram Walke is further investigating the case under the guidance of PI, Braz Menezes.
[Goanet] THE PRINTED WORD: Learn Konkani, the Romi way
Learn Konkani, the Romi way
THE PRINTED WORD
Twenty years later, the debate
over language in Goa has come a
full circle. In 1987, it was
Marathi-versus-Konkani. Now, it
is a battle over the scripts
and dialects within Konkani.
FREDERICK NORONHA looks at how
this divide ended up in print.
Language is an emotive issue, no doubt. We in Goa haven't
been able to yet show that maturity to adopt a
live-and-let-live approach over our linguistic differences.
In such a context, it's not surprising to see a new book on
the stands recently, called 'Romi Lipient Konknni Kors'
(Konknni Course in Roman Script). It is authored by Dr Mathew
Almeida sj (Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr, Porvorim, 2007, Pp
252, Rs 250, US$20, UKP10).
At one level, some will see this as an extension of the
script-based battle within Konkani. At another level, one
could argue that the Devanagari-alone approach was rather
untenable, and it was bound to get unstuck sooner or later.
Seen from the positive side, this "kors" should make it
easier for those wanting to study Konkani, without needing to
learn a new script first. In particular, this fairly
ambitious book will help expat Goans, foreigners wanting to
study the language, or even new settlers to the state (not
all of whom would know Devanagari).
This book is made up of 33 chapters in its main part (Section
II), and another four chapters offering Konkani basics.
Towards the end are Konkani-English and English-Konkani
vocabularies, references, an appendix and acknowledgements.
Probably in a bid to stave off the charge that the Roman
script is not "phonetic", the start of the book contains an
elaborate explanation on how to accurately pronounce
different Konkani words in this script.
Each lesson is short, of about two to four pages in length.
But it's packed with a great deal of useful information -- a
Konkani text with a vocabulary in English, grammar notes (in
English), response drill and some questions and text.
What's welcome is the use of English in this book, which is
used where needed to teach Konkani. Some language purists
have made the task of spreading Konkani all that more
difficult by not even including any words of explanation in,
say, a fourth standard Konkani school text book! Leaving one
to just keep guessing, or give up.
In a way, the book reflects Goa's diversity better, unlike
some Devanagari texts which tend to be more Antruzi-focussed.
Whether TSKK can make this title sell is left to be seen.
On the negative side, this book deserves a better cover.
Incidentally, this book was brought out by Mangalorean priest
Dr Matthew Almeida sj, and TSKK is itself headed by another
Jesuit from that region, Dr Pratap Naik. Which only goes to
show that the full debate about so-called 'outsiders' is more
complex than made out to be. One day someone might be
grateful to these two men from having the humility to retrace
their steps, and save a Konkani dialect from total
submergence into the sea of standardisation and linguistic
hegemony.
This book is available from TSKK, B. B. Borkar Road, Alto
Porvorim, Goa 403 521. Ph: 2415857, 2415864 Fax:
91-832-2413389 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website:www.tskk.org
It should be on the book-stands shortly.
GOAN GAMES
'Goyantlem Parampareek Khel' is a book about Goa's
traditional games. Edited by Bhushan Bhave, this has been
published by the Goa Konkani Akademi (243, Pato Colony,
Panjim) and is priced at Rs 140 in March 2005.
Written in Konkani, it's a useful book, though one would
suspect that there would be a need for such a title in
English too. It is 152 pages, and in larger-than-usual
format.
In the text, Bhave breaks up the games into two segments --
traditional ones ('paramparik') and those linked to history
or religion. The latter category finds inclusions like
godgodo, goff, zagor, dhalo, dhirio, coconut-breaking,
fuggdi, shigmo, and Sao Joao. Is that a suitable description?
Given the amount of taxpayers' resources the GKA spends in
publishing so many Konkani books, it would make good sense if
these books could be better distributed. The low-price,
no-distributor-margins policy (or insufficient margins, as
against market trends) probably only makes books published by
the Goa Konkani Akademi less-than-visible on the stands.
Of course, the back cover of this text includes an invite to
visit the GKA's reading centre and book sale centre. But this
is surely not enough
SLICK BOOK
'HIV/AIDS in Goa: Situation and Response 2005-06' is one of
those slick and well-published book, printed on glossy paper,
and highlights the great role our politicians and State is
playing on improving the situation on this front.
Which makes one wonder: Is there simply too much money in
battling AIDS? Why don't health concerns really crying for
concern -- like malaria, anemia among Goan women, TB or the
shortage of cancer or heart treatment facilities in Goa --
really get highlighted in the first place?
Sixty-three pages, this has been published by t
[Goanet] Fundamentalist revival in Goa?
Is Goa experiencing some kind of a fundamentalist revival? Just sent away two Jehovah's Witnesses (Watchtower) who came over unsolicited (on a Sunday evening, when I was all bleary-eyed after a long siesta), and are going round house-to-house "sharing the Good News". Despite repeated statements that I was not in the market for good news, they just wouldn't go, and I practically had to force them out. Just a few days ago I had to send away two Believers who insisted on telling my wife about the Word of the Lord or some such and how it would save her from the hell-fire that surely awaited me otherwise. She called out to me to come and rescue her. Again it took some doing to get them to go away. All these people are most welcome to believe whatever they want, but must they insist on coming and telling us about it in gruesome detail, even after being told categorically that we are not interested? Reason I was wondering about a possible fundamentalist revival was because two in a week seemed excessive. Also, another pair had landed up a month ago. Prior to that, in a ten-year period we had had only three such pairs. Have they decided that the Apocalypse is round the corner, given that they're crawling out of the woodwork in such large numbers? But a quick survey of stuff on Jehovah's Witnesses shows that for them the Apocalypse has always been round the corner, so what's so different now, that's making them so active? I'm checking the climate charts, maybe things are going to hell even faster than we thought :-) -- Question everything -- Karl Marx
[Goanet] Re- S.c.i.g.
Dear Netters, You're welcome to post Goa-related *news* here. It's a Usenet newsgroup. Mailing address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No abuse please, respect others as you would like others to respect you. Mog assumdi, Tumcho Khalto, Sanny de Quepem X From: Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेड <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 1:20:48 PM Subject: [Goanet] S.c.i.g. Thanks to Sanny de Quepem, a whole lot of new posts are showing up here: http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.indian.goa/topics You're welcome to post Goa-related *news* here. It's a Usenet newsgroup. -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 11866 downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ + Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Betrayal of Koankanni over the years
Cedrico wrote: Actually now is the time to ask both the candidates Wilfred Misquita n Sardinha as to what they would do to ensure the survival and promotion of the koankanni language specially in sashtiwhich played the major role in getting koankanni the official language status. -- Just after the official language act was passed I was visiting Goa. On a trip from Margoa to Vasco, I was given a ride by Dr. Misquitta and a freedom fighter, whose name I forget. I asked the good old doctor why he as an MGP member did not voice his support for Konkani in Romi script instead of only Devnagiri script along with Marathi as the official language. HIs reply was that Catholic Goans could choke Marathi and give no importance to Konkani in devnagiri script. It was perhaps an escapist route, just as he is doing with regard to the Dabolim vs Mopa airport issue. Obviously, as an MGP member (maybe he was on the party's executive), he did not want to go against the party line. It only shows that politicians dance to party tunes even though in their hearts they don't agree with the policies. That Dr. Misquitta has joined the BJP just to get the parliamentary ticket is obvious. In fact, I and Wilson Mazarello (Wilmix) discussed the issue during his stay in Dubai. I said to him that the demand for Konkani in Romi Lipi should have been tagged along with the demand for Konkani as an official language during the agitation. It is bit late in the day but, nevertheless, the fight that has begun must be carried on. One is never sure when victory will come, as as it happened in getting official recognition to Konkani. True, politicians such as Churchill, Luzinho and Francisco should have rushed the amendment through the legislature during their brief stints as chief ministers. Having given an award for a Romi Konkani book, it seems strange that the Kala Academy has gone back to its earlier stance of giving awards only to Devnagiri Konkani. But the Kala Academy has been a bastion of pro-Marathi or pro-Devnagiri supporters. Wasn't is surprising that Parrikar made Rane, an Opposition leader, the chairperson of the august cultural body during his time as chief minister. Eugene __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Interesting ad ... from Margao
Just came across this (fairly old) ad in my newspaper clippings: Diploma/crash tailoring courses for ladies. Teaching exquisite garments with individual coaching: Instituto Artes Feminas (Government Authorised), 69/480, Abade Faria Road, Margao Ph 2730015. Wonder if Goanetters know of other home run enterprises that pass on skills in Goa? FN -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 11866 downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
[Goanet] S.c.i.g.
Thanks to Sanny de Quepem, a whole lot of new posts are showing up here: http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.indian.goa/topics You're welcome to post Goa-related *news* here. It's a Usenet newsgroup. -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph 0091-832-2409490 11866 downloadable, sharable hi-res photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/
[Goanet] Thrift shop in Saligao... (By Yvonne Vaz Ezdani)
THRIFT SHOP IN SALIGAO Yvonne Vaz Ezdani The conference of Mae De Deus, Society of St Vincent De Paul, Saligao,has started a 'Thrift Shop',in the premises of 'Asro', Shelter for Destitute Women '.On 18 October 2007 at 4.30 pm. Assistant parish priest Father Carlisto Coelho said a prayer and blessed the new venture while Father Venancio Fonesca cut the ribbon and inaugrated the shop.Father Thomas D'Souza was also present. The proceeds of the thrift shop will go towards the fund for 'Asro '. Archbishop Henry D'Souza of Kolkata had in November 2005 donated his ancestral home in Demello Vaddo Saligao, to be used as a temporary home for women in distress and the place has been renovated and extended to comfortably house about 10 inmates at a time. The thrift shop is open every Thursday and Saturday from 4 to 6 pm. Items for sale include clothes, bags,cosmetics household items, curios etc. all of which have been donated by villagers and well-wishers. The Asro Committe of the SSVP ,put in alot of effort to sort,label and arrange the items which were well displayed and it is heartening to see the large number of people visiting the shop and buying items of their choice at bargain prices. The committee has requested more donors to come forward and keep the shop going. ENDS
[Goanet] Man arrested for molestation at Bicholim
Dear Goans, We have always blamed the FOREIGNERS for such deeds, due to which we fail to observe culprits living among us, who put up a saintly face while in public but while out of sight the SATAN is in action. These people must be stoned to death like the do in the Arabian Gulf for committing adultery. Do you agree with me? On the other hand such people must not be handed over to the Police cause they are too lenient, the public must first take against such people and then give the police a lame victim with broken bones. Mog assumdi, Tumcho khalto, Sanny de Quepem x Man arrested for molestation at Bicholim NT News Service Bicholim, Oct 20 The Bicholim police today arrested Shabani Dessai (43) for allegedly molesting a 10- year old girl studying in class V. The accused was caught today by the parents of victim girl when he had come to leave his child to the school and he was later handed over to the police. The Bicholim police inspector, Mr Braz Menezes revealed that an offence has been registered under Section 354 of the Indian Penal Code and Section 8(1) of the Goa State Childrens Act. The accused was produced in the court and remanded to two days police custody by the JMFC, Bicholim. According to the investigating officer, the incident took place on October 16 between 7.30 a.m. and 7.45 a.m. near the premises of a school at Bicholim. The accused molested the girl when she was on her way to school. The administrator of the school, Mr Kotin Dias disclosed the entire incidence to the police today. The police rushed to the site and arrested the accused. Mr Tukaram Walke is investigating the case under the supervision of PI, Mr Menezes. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=10216 Sanny de Quepem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] CM assures all support to ‘Vauraddeanch o Ixtt’
CM assures all support to Vauraddeancho Ixtt NT Staff Reporter Panaji, Oct 20 To commemorate the platinum jubilee of the Konkani weekly, `Vauraddeancho Ixtt, a cultural programme was held today evening at Raimundo and Lidia Gracias hall, Agnel Ashram, Verna. At the onset, the Chief Minister, Mr Digambar Kamat lit the traditional lamp and thereafter released a special commemorative souvenir of `V Ixtt. The Power Minister, Mr Aleixo Sequeira and MLA of St Andre constituency, Mr Francisco Silveira were also present for the function. Speaking on the occasion, Mr Kamat paid homage to all those who worked hard to start the Konkani weekly and all those who have toiled for its existence till date. ``It is a matter of pride to note that the weekly reaches around 10,000 homes today, he added. Mr Kamat also mentioned about the governments policy which focuses on the development of regional languages. He recalled that during his tenure as the art and culture minister, he had introduced various schemes for the growth and development of various art forms such as the mandos and folk dances. The Chief Minister also assured all support to the Konkani weekly for its future growth. Dr Bicaji Ganekar, who was the chief speaker for the day, briefed the gathering about the history and growth of `V Ixtt. He brought to the notice of the audience about the issues dealt with by the Konkani weekly during the past couple of years. Earlier, the Superior of Pilar Society, Fr Tony Lopes reminded that the aim of `V Ixtt was to spread the Good News and proclaim the truth and love to the masses. ``The weekly has always strived to tackle issues of the labour class and the suppressed, he added. Fr Lopes also thanked the members of Fr Agnel Ashram for taking the initiative to prepare the venue for the platinum jubilee celebrations. The cultural programme followed which included Fados (Portuguese folk songs) by Ms Sonia Sirsat, Sitar recital by Ustad Chotte Rehman Khan, a musical one-act play, `Potrakar by Kala Mogi, Candolim and Goan folk dances by a troupe from Mandd Samelan from Canacona. The troupe was led by Mahendra Phaldessai and it performed fugddi, gof, dhalo and lamp dance. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=10219 Sanny de Quepem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] KALA ACADEMY AND INJUSTICE TO ROMI WRITERS
To The Editor, Dear Sir, KALA ACADEMY AND INJUSTICE TO ROMI WRITERS Theres no doubt that the Konkani Roman script, which has scripted pages of gold in the checkered history of Konkani in Goa, has been receiving time and again step-motherly treatment from a group of staunch Devanagiri script supporters. That the Goa Kala Academy too is now abdicating its role to give the much-needed impetus to Romi writers is a matter of shame. All the more so, in view of the repeated statements made by our CM that all possible help, in every way, will be extended to the Roman script. On April, 18 2006, at the meeting of the Executive Board of the KA, it was suggested that, like the decision of having a separate category for Roman Konkani Sahitya Puraskar, an independent scheme ought to be prepared for Gomant Sharda Puraskar for Roman Konkani, Devanagiri Konkani and Marathi. As a policy matter, the Executive unanimously approved the suggestion and directed the Member Secretary to prepare separate schemes and make necessary budgetary provisions. When the matter came up for ratification by the General Council (of which I am also a member) on 12th. of this month, Mr. Uday Bhembre vehemently opposed the move by making points in favour of his stand. Mr. Tomazinho Cardoso, together with others, put counter-arguments, fervently appealing for separate schemes, all the more so, in view of the prevailing ground realities today. Tomazinho did make a strong case to my mind and therefore I am dismayed to read in the press that the KA has closed door on Romi script writers. Today thousands of Romi writers, readers and lovers nurture our beautiful Konkani language with love and tender care almost single-handedly. And this has become possible only because of the invaluable support and generous personal financial help of umpteen devoted people. Romi script writers have a reason to be aggrieved once more. Let me state, at this juncture, that I am all for dialogue and bridges between the lipi factions. I am not in favour of any amendment to the Official Language Bill at this point of time (because it will give leeway to even more fissiparous tendencies). But I make a strong appeal to those at the helm of the KA that this prestigious body should not abdicate its responsibility as far as promotion and recognition of Romi Konkani script is concerned. The world will not come to an end if the decisions adopted by the executive board are implemented without delay. To be sure Konkani language will be enriched thousandfold - even as it is given a new aroma and a fresh touch of fragrance. Long live amchi maim bas! Tanking you, Dr. Francisco Colaco, MD 151 G. Rebelo. Margao. Goa. Ce3ll: 9823190318 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
