[Goanet] Tales from Goa

2008-04-23 Thread Goanet News Service

Tales from Goa

Priyanka Haldipur finds herself addicted to the energy of good ol Goa.


There lies a thin line between fun life in Bangalore and funner life in a 
paradise called Goa. It goes by the name of 60-minute flight! After you 
have got over that revelation for the thirtieth time, you sit back and plan 
the million things you could do once you hit ground, all of which may just 
be abandoned in favour of  plan 'B'- comfy hotel bed and room service 
throughout, cos' just breathing the air of Goa is enough to salve a spent 
soul and make the world feel like a beautiful place again! And off season 
can't do much to change that. If anything, it makes things a wee bit better 
than they could've been mid-December. The hotel rates are slashed to half of 
what they are during season. You will not suffer bumping into hairy, large 
men or trampling the teensy toes of ultra-noisy tots with every step you 
take. The crowd was just fine and the weather went an extra step to make 
life fabulous for hubby dearest and me.


Staying some 40 feet away from the beach is what else but pure joy. You 
droop off to the lullaby of the waves and wake up to the same harmony. If 
you resist that urge to roll around in bed, and manage to hit the sands even 
at 7 am, you can enjoy a long stroll from one end of the beach to the other 
in pleasant weather. Not only will you whet up an appetite for a scrumptious 
breakfast, it also makes you feel a little less guilty about stuffing your 
face like there's no tomorrow. And if it comforts you some more, the sand 
works up a great natural pedicure.


The nicest parts, of course, are the sights you encounter on the way. A 
fisherman dad initiating his 10-year-old son into the nuances of the trade; 
cute little urchins running all over the place excitedly with a plastic 
bottle and a giddy, new-found baby crab bouncing inside; beach doggies 
following their budding adventure sport entrepreneur-masters as they move 
their water scooters into the sea!


Once you're ready for breakfast, walk along the restaurant-lined street 
beside your beach and take your pick among the many welcoming places that 
you see. Since the somewhat rare items in the Continental spread will be 
missed so much once you're back in your city, don't hesitate to order for 
that banana pancake with icecream or make a meal out of just blueberry 
muffins. Discuss the plan of action between bites if you can. Will it be 
North Goa with its temples, churches and beaches, or the South with a new 
set of temples, churches and beaches? There are many options available in 
conducted tours courtesy Goa Tourism too- apart from 'Traditional Goa', 
there's 'Birds of Goa', 'Ancestral Goa', and 'Goa by night'(cruises that 
take you past important monuments), among others.


Personally, we felt that a bike was the best way to explore Goa, so there we 
were on a rented bike to Fort Aguada from our Calangute hotel. Upon reaching 
there, we noticed a bus full of frisky tourists. When a bunch of them passed 
us, loud whispers of Dil Chahta Hai! Dil Chahta Hai! heard, we realised 
why the view from the fort looked so familiar. It also explained the 'Filmy 
Chakkar' in bold letters painted across the sides of the bus. Their's was a 
film locations tour!


The heat got mildly intolerable which was a cue for us to head to a popular 
tavern in Baga. Chilled beer and fun conversation later, we were back in 
high spirits. Baga is one of those places that is transformed into a 
happening youth joint at night. It has its share of hip pubs, discos and 
lounges- so pub-hop all you want.


The next day, we decided to check out churches that were close by, which led 
us to Se Cathedral (since Basilica of Bom Jesus and Church of St. Francis of 
Assissi had been visited umpteen times during previous trips). We were quite 
fascinated by St. Augustine Tower, rather what remains of it.  We scanned 
through Museum of Christian Art, a stone's throw away from the tower. 
Ancestral Goa/ Lotoulim (that a Goa travel brochure boasted of) was what 
we felt like doing next. A hot, never-ending ride on a busy highway ensued, 
but we never did make it to this place that I have come to believe is 
mythical. We stopped for directions on the way, but no one seemed to have 
heard of 'Lotoulim'. We tried pronouncing it in many different ways, but it 
failed to ring a bell with all the Goans we encountered on that ride.


We returned disappointed and I made up for it by buying myself a pair of 
fake Crocs. Goa is brimming with them... every street shop displays them in 
such pretty colours. I picked crimson! And even wore it to dinner.


The next day we executed plan 'B' and didn't budge from our room, except for 
the parasailing in the evening. The lazing was much needed anyway, so that 
we could come to terms with returning home to work and responsible actions. 
It had been a fun holiday. I just have to close my eyes now to go back to 
that land- of chocolate 

[Goanet] K-03. Konkani song

2008-04-23 Thread edwardingoa
WELCOME TO EDU'S MUSIC COLLECTION


K-03. Konkani song

click on the link below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN1knGzzGLEfeature=related

edu

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Re: [Goanet] Remo holds free concert to create awareness on global warming

2008-04-23 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 22/04/2008, jane gillian rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As per e-mail, congratulations to Remo for being the only
 Internationally,well-known  Goan to take the initiative to sing at the
 concernt on Global warming in Goa.

  Please let me know if there are other Goans, who have done the same, I will
 thank them also.

  Regards,

  Jane

RESPONSE: I too, sang and will sing again to make people aware of
Global warming. Please don't feel obliged, if you hold your thanks, I
shall understand.


-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England


Re: [Goanet] Remo holds free concert to create awareness on global warming

2008-04-23 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:15:13 +0100
From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

So you have made my day by informing Goanet that I
indeed generally know more than you; after all you
have just conceded that I was right and you were
wrong.

Mario responds:

I am always glad to concede that you are absolutely
correct that I know more than you or anyone else about
the furious debate going on about the causes and
extent of climate change:-))




[Goanet] Why Goans Runaway from Goa?

2008-04-23 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Goans in Goa should stop complaining about the Runaway Goans or Type -2 NRG.  
Instead we should spend the time and energy on developing systems to work 
together.
 
Let me share with you my (and perhaps a different) read on the potential 
benefit of  a Runaway Goan.  A Runaway Goan can continue ad-infinitum to 
bring expertise and channel technology from the West to Goa.  The retired 
Runaway Goan will have more experience and time to work the project.   While 
an actively working Runaway Goan will have greater ability to use his / her 
influence and contacts to channel equipment (used and new), technical 
textbooks, and help to build sister-relations with corresponding department / 
institution and / or individual, and / or towns and villages in Goa.  
 
Clearly there needs to be a team approach at both ends. Our motto in our 
institution, is: There is no  I  in the word team. The challenge in this 
scenario is to get the right people to connect and the two systems (in Goa and 
abroad) and all involved to oscillate on the same wave length.  This should not 
be difficult. Individuals and institutions are doing it in Mumbai, Delhi, 
Hyderabad, Chennai, Bangalore etc.
 
So do not rely on / blame the politicians.  Each individual native Goan can 
take an initiative to come up with some ideas. Preferably do it as a group in a 
brain storming session. Then put those ideas through a 'feasibility study' of 
how to get there step by step and what are the costs and sacrifices 
involved.  Finally bounce the idea off a Runaway Goan on a visit to Goa. 
This idea is the seed.  One never knows where it will land and how many 100 
fold will be the harvest.  Sure some seed will fall on barren ground and others 
will not germinate.  Yet, that has never prevented a farmer from planting his / 
her seed , even in amchem bangarachem Goem.
 
The Runaway Goan may have some ideas of their own and may need those in Goa 
to respond.  My 'supurlem' suggestion are village-based mini-museums, once 
touted by the ex-CM.  Are there any takers - especially schools?
 
Regards, GL
 
- Plastino DCosta 
Why Goans Runaway from Goa ?

First thing that comes to mind is that Goa is full of corrupt politicians who 
have messed up Goa and therefore Goans have no choice but to Runaway from Goa 
in search of a better opportunities. Although this could be one of  the 
reasons, it might not be the only reason. 


  

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[Goanet] LIMERICK FOR THE DAY 77 - THE MAKING OF FENI

2008-04-23 Thread Shanti Dhoot
RE:


Message: 10 Apr 2008 From: edwardingoa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] The making of feni ? Goa?s most popular drink

The making of feni ? Goa's most popular drink

THE most commonly spoken word in Goa is feni. And the reason is not
difficult to understand because feni is the name of the most popular local
drink among hard drinks.

THE MAKING OF FENI


That was a  most educative contribution on feni,

Especially for those living abroad and have many

Friends asking about this Goan drink.

Some say feni has an unpleasant stink,

But others who love the taste are considered zany.

- Shanti Dhoot


[Goanet] Unearthing the Goan Idiom

2008-04-23 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil
Herald, 23 April 2008

MARIA AURORA COUTO

-
Bragança Pereira’s book is about a heterogeneous, interdependent
society exposed to all kinds of cultural influences—Portuguese,
Christian, from the Indian mainland and Europe—which adapted in
varying degrees, yet retained many of its local traditions. The
English translation will be released at the Black Box, Panjim, on
25 April at 5.30 pm by Dr. Jose Pereira.
--

Ethnography is at its best when experienced and written from
inside the culture that is being researched. Antonio Bernardo de
Bragança Pereira, succeeded to a great extent in meeting this rare
criteria in his portrayal of Goan culture, its splendour, its
endearing tolerance and appreciation of the pluralisms of its
society, comprehending every apparent inconsistency and
peculiarity.   Bragança Pereira’s Ethnography of Goa Daman and Diu
is an endeavour to describe the essential way of life of the
people of Goa - home, family, society, worship, governance,
economic and social - and how human beings are in harmony and not
in conflict with the environment. He describes Goan existence with
rigour, and brings in different views, some in conflict, leaving
the reader to judge. But with an impassioned vision, he reflects
on how and why cultures survive the imperatives and challenges of
existence. No work of this nature has appeared in Goa or in other
erstwhile Portuguese colonies.

The cultural life of Goa, the manners and customs of Goans and the
structure of their society provoke issues and questions which are
of more than localized interest and significance. Descriptive
accounts by travellers, missionaries and traders before the
nineteenth century tended to dismiss the special features of Goan
society as aberrations that did not conform to established
patterns that were in vogue in the vast subcontinent of British
India.  To them, the Portuguese colony presented a sorry
spectacle. The East India Gazetteer of 1828,  was dismissive and
pejorative in its description of Goa.

Bragança Pereira’s work dispels the ignorance and prejudices in
erstwhile accounts of Goan society. He did not seek models within
Portuguese scholarship at a time when the methodology of
anthropology was complicit with the imperial state. His work
follows the tradition of drawing from British, French and German
scholarship, as is evident from the references he cites which are
drawn from national and international sources in various
languages. As a juiz de relação (judge in the court of appeals) in
Goa, with jurisdiction which extended to Macau and Timor, he
maintained his independent spirit during the period of Salazar’s
dictatorship. In his capacity as  president of the Permanent
Commission on Archaeology he conducted a great deal of research
from 1931 to1951, edited and published magisterial volumes of the
Archivo Portugues Oriental.  He was like Luis de Menezes Bragança
and Tristão de Bragança Cunha, a scion of the Menezes Bragança
family of Chandor,  who  grew to be great intellectuals and public
figures of the time. Their vision and independent spirit in the
field of historiography and political activism is considered
exceptional.

Ethnography of Goa, Daman and Diu first appeared as a long essay
in a collection of essays, India Portuguesa, published in 1923 on
various aspects of the colony—education, medicine, the
communidades, journalism—commissioned by the government during the
brief years of the republic in Portugal. The second, enlarged,
two-volume edition of Ethnography was published in 1940, a decade
after Salazar’s dictatorship had been established. Vol 2 which has
been translated  needs to be read widely to dispel strange notions
that prevail about Goa and its people today. He writes about a
society that survived colonialism, recapturing a past lost in the
mists of time through delineating geography, climate, river
systems, food and hygiene, furniture, culinary arts, medicine and
indeed a way of life which survived and evolved through the period
of Portuguese colonialism, sometimes in confrontation and
sometimes in collusion.

Bragança Pereira’s book is about a heterogeneous, interdependent
society exposed to all kinds of cultural influences—Portuguese,
Christian, from the Indian mainland and Europe—which adapted in
varying degrees, yet retained many of its local traditions. He
follows the classical pattern of detailing customs and rituals of
the castes of Goa prevailing in the late nineteenth and early
twentieth centuries before the Liberation of Goa. The author has
also provided some details of prohibitions imposed on the converts
in order to alienate them from their original Hindu culture

The  work is rooted in the author’s empathy with the response to
challenges that confronted Goan society in the early twentieth
century after Salazar enacted the Acto Colonial, the Colonial Act,
in 1934. This work also offers an approach to issues arising from
a comparative study of British and Portuguese colonization. One
such 

[Goanet] BJP claims feelers from six ruling MLAs - is the toppling game on from within?

2008-04-23 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
BJP claims feelers from six ruling MLAs; Cong denies   NT Staff Reporter
  Panaji, April 22
  The Congress leadership today stoutly denied that its MLAs were in touch with 
the opposition to topple the government and that there was no threat to the 
state government headed by it. On the contrary, the Congress said feelers were 
being sent to it by some of the Bharatiya Janata Party MLAs that they would 
like to join the Congress.
  The denial from the Congress camp came following a claim by the BJP 
leadership that six of Congress MLAs were in touch with it to topple the Kamat 
government, that has already faced two serious attempts to dethrone it ever 
since it came to power on June 8, last year.
  The Finance Minister, Mr Dayanand Narvekar told The Navhind Times late this 
evening that the rumours were being spread by the opposition leaders with a 
view to create confusion in the minds of MLAs and general public.
  These are the rumours that need to be ignored, he said.
  The three Congress MLAs' Mr Agnelo Fernandes, Mr Gurudas Gawas and Mr Shyam 
Satardekar who were on a tour to Australia and New Zealand and who, the BJP 
claimed, were part of the group of six MLAs that was in touch with it -- have 
vehemently denied that they were party to any toppling game and that they were 
very much with the Congress.
  It is ridiculous on the part of anyone to link us with any group in the 
toppling game, if at all there is any, said Mr Fernandes who is scheduled to 
return to the state along with others after the tour of the two nations 
tomorrow.
  Earlier, the state BJP claimed that at least six MLAs from the ruling 
coalition were in contact with it. The six Congress legislators included some 
MLAs who have been currently on a foreign tour and few others from the group 
that revolted against the government in January, this year.
  The spokesperson of the legislature wing of the BJP, Mr Damodar Naik, who 
along with other 13 BJP MLAs is attending partys chintan shibhir at Panhala, 
Maharashtra, said that though a few ruling coalition MLAs were in contact with 
the BJP, one should not expect its immediate political repercussions.
  However, the BJP was expecting that some political upheaval would definitely 
take place in the state within months time, he said adding that the government 
would collapse under its own weight.
   
  - Forwarded by gaspar.almeida at www.goa-world.com 


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Re: [Goanet] POEM: SCARLETT KEELING (Herald - April 21/08)

2008-04-23 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Hi Jane
Re your post, to me any male (or indeed female) who is
inclined to think that Scarlett Keeling or any other
woman deserved it meaning torture, rape and murder,
does not deserve to be called a human being and needs
some education badly.
Cornel DaCosta
--- jane gillian rodrigues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I am shocked to read, that many male Goans, even
 some on this website, are very happy to state that
Scarlet - deserved it, especially when there are
many 15-year old, Indian, young girls, who out of
 poverty, are being forced into prostitution or beg
on our Indian roads, dressed in badly torn clothes.
 
 Does any female, whatever the circumstance, deserve
 to be raped, murdered, tortured, physically abused,
burnt etc. in India, whether Indian or  foreigner?



Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 456, Non-Goan Marathi wags his finger at Goans

2008-04-23 Thread Joseph de Melo
An unbiased analysis of the letter written below in the Herald by Mr.
Waghmare (whoever he may be), would agree that much of the content in the
letter is true. The fact of the matter is that there do exist goans who
refuse to consider themselves Indians first and then Goans or whatever. This
stubborn insistence on refusing to acknowledge a national identity is
definitely one of the reasons for the condition Goa is in today. Let's be
honest with ourselves. WHY should we call an outsider from the state
ghanti or biknekar? Isn't this language offensive? And it is annoying
more so, because the reason why Goa attracts the so called migrants is due
to the vacuum created by the Goans (be it skilled or unskilled). Respected
Goan industrialists have spoken of the reluctance of Goan youth to join
industry because of the seemingly low salaries they are offered. And then we
go ahead and blame outsiders for working in these places. Never mind if
there are numerous examples of Goans who have been born, brought up,
studied, and are still working in this very state
I have come across quite a few local lads who are convinced that they need
to go abroad to shine. Surprisingly even finance post grads who want to rush
to the gulf for better prospects. If only they were ready to work in
India, and witness the kind of pay packets they would receive. The catch?
Required skill sets are much tougher in India than abroad.
How do we explain the large unchecked migrant influx? Issuance of ration
cards, voter cards etc? Are these not sons of the soil currently in power
positions providing facilities to the outsiders? So whom do we blame? The
outsider or the goan?
Let us rise above all this, and shed issues related to place, religion,
class. These are all factors that only serve to divide the country. If we
can't contribute towards nation building, atleast let us not contribute
towards its destruction. Crass sloganeering is most definitely not the way
forward.

Regards

Joseph de Melo


Message: 11
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:40:54 -0400
From: Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Non-Goan Marathi wags his finger at Goans
To: Goanet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To Goanet -

See -

http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=2975cid=14

My remarks:

As I have recorded here on Goanet earlier - soon
they will be claiming that Goa's beauty, prosperity,
civil manner etc etc etc are all due to migrants.
But once Goa turns into a sea of excrement - then
the Marxists will step in and release a book with the
title, 'Re-imagining Goa where it will be claimed
that the beauty and character of Goa and Goans was
always a myth, that no such thing existed, that
ghatis have made Goa and given Goa its nuance
diversity and vibrancy.

By the way, purely out of curiosity, who is
Mandaar Gajananrao Waghmare (assuming he exists)?


Regards,


r


[Goanet] Talking Photo: Congress it's alliance having an emergency meeting

2008-04-23 Thread JoeGoaUk
===
Talking Photo: Congress  it's alliance having an emergency meeting

Congress 16, NCP 3, MGP 2, Ind. 1

Some MLA's/ministers missing as they are on a foreign trip? e.g. Churchill
Babush is also absent.

It looks like Goa Govt. in crises again.
Will Digu survive this time??

Emergency meeting at Top level
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2418802207/sizes/l/

Photo secretly taken by JoeGoaUk
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Re: [Goanet] Soter D'Souza: The silence of GBA is frightening

2008-04-23 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या
While Soter is in the news... reproducing a six-year-old interview
with him... --FN


2008/4/22 Vivian A. DSouza [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 This is indeed a cause for concern.  Has the GBA been compromised or bought 
 out for
  30 pieces of silver ?  If Soter who is a core member of the GBA does not
 know what is going on, who does ?  Where are all the other stalwarts of the 
 GBA?  Sad indeed.

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00985.html
TEN QUESTIONS: Originally put out on 21May2002
MINORITIES TOTALLY EXPLOITED BY GOA'S POLITICAL PARTIES-Soter D'Souza


TILL A FEW days back, Porvorim-based Soter D'Souza (42) was the general
secretary of the BJP's Minority Morcha, the 'minority' front of Goa's
ruling party. In a chat with FREDERICK NORONHA, he explains why he quit the
post, just before a critical Goa elections.


FN: What prompted you to quit the BJP and it Minority Morcha?


Minorities were not being taken seriously. All the more, the Gujarat riots
and certain local incidents (not just the Socorro Muslim prayer hall arson
but two other unreported incidents) had led me to review my relations with
the BJP.


FN: What led you to join it in 1998?


The failure of the Congress, both nationally and locally, created a void. I
came in contact with (Goa chief minister) Manohar Parrikar and getting to
know his vision and attributes. I saw some hope for Goa and Goans.


FN: How would you rate Parrikar today?


I still feel he has administrative abilities and discipline. But certain
compulsions of politics perhaps influenced his decision-making process. The
zeal with which he started his tenure, specially his fight against
corruption and other illegalities, has almost died out.


FN: Looking back, what was the BJP's main achivements and failures in this
period?


Initially, the BJP was able to show that corruption could be curtailed.
Discipline in government administration was another plus. Even the Dayanand
Social Security Scheme was a good venture, but it was stretched too much
for political reasons.

On the other hand, the drive against corruption was not total, leading
people to feel that only political opponents were targetted. Instead of
contempt for the corrupt politicians, people started sympathising with
them. There was not enough effort to break the communal or fundamental
image that has been painted of the BJP by the Opposition. In fact, certain
incidents have only further substantiated this.


FN: In your view, how should the BJP be dealing with the minorities?


Unless the BJP seriously reviews its opinions and approaches towards all
sections of the minorities, then it cannot be trusted.


FN: What is your view of communalism within the minorities?


Actually, I do not favour a thinking based on minority lines. It not only
sends out a wrong signal, but is also a sort of an inferiority lable. It
acts as a means for certain politicians to corner votes. On the other hand,
it is also for the majority community to give up their attempts to form
communal cliques. It's a two way process; when minorities feel secure,
that's the time they will maybe change.


FN: As someone who studied for priesthood, what do you feel should be the
role of priests, when it comes to politics?


A priest should not impose his ideas. Whatever evolves from the democratic
process, he should learn to accept it. They should also encourage voters to
support good, efficient and sincere candidates, regardless of religious
affiliation. Some priests lack in exposure to the feelings and thinking of
the majority community.


FN: What do you see as in store for the BJP in Goa?


If the BJP does not do serious soul-searching to recognise its
shortcomings, they're heading towards political rejection. If they do
seriously review their strategies and ideologies, they could still hold
promise to this state and the country because of their work ethics,
discipline and cadre.


FN: What's the involvement of minorities in politics in Goa today?


The minorities in Goa are totally divided. As a result they have been
exploited by political parties. They have allowed themselves to be taken
for granted.

Many decisions taken by the minorites too might have not been rational, but
emotional.

Any alternative in Goa should not be built on majority-minority lines. The
times require all peace-loving Goans -- from whatever community -- to come
together and prevent disruptive forces from getting hold of the political
and social fabric.


FN: Your reading of the Gujarat carnage on the Goa polls?


Although some political parties claim the Gujarat riots will not have an
impact on the election results, I beg to differ. The nervourness from some
quarters is forcing them to involve Section 153(A) of the IPC to 

Re: [Goanet] TCP exposed for lenient attitude towards violators

2008-04-23 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil
This is obviously a hot issue right now. All the papers have news
on it today. Sunaparant has it as the lead item on page 1. Does
this mean that there is hope for villages exposed to hill-cutting
by corporate marauders, like Aldona, Siolim and so many others?

Vidyadhar Gadgil wrote:
 TCP exposed for lenient attitude towards violators
 BY HERALD REPORTER
 
 PANJIM, APRIL 22 – Looks like the Town and Country Planning (TCP)
 is not inclined to implement stringent provisions of the TCP Act
 that empowers it to fine the violators.
 The department has the power to impose fine upto Rs 1 lakh for
 illegal hill cutting and also cancel the licence of the guilty party.
 Adv Norma Alvares, amicus Curiae in a Public Interest Litigation
 (PIL) that complained of illegal hill cutting in Siolim, told the
 Court that department has not taken action against the violators
 even as the notices were issued to the parities. None has been
 fined nor licence cancelled for illegal cutting in this case, she
 pointed out.
 A Division Bench of Justices S A Bobde and N A Britto reprimanded
 the department for not taking action against the people involved
 in illegal cutting.
 Hearing was adjourned till Monday next but with the instructions
 to the government to report about action taken against defaulting
 TCP officers who neglected the complaint of illegal hill cutting
 as well as against parties involved in the illegal hill cutting.
 In this case the TCP officer had earlier reported that there was
 no hill cutting at the site. However, the department was exposed
 when the Committee appointed by the Court consisting of Architect
 Dean D’Cruz and the Engineer Viraj D Paraz, submitted the report
 confirming the allegations made by the petitioner Satish Benualikar.
 The Court had then directed to take appropriates steps to stop the
 hill cutting and restore the damage done.
 


-- 
Question everything -- Karl Marx



[Goanet] Is the Goa Government Functioning at all?

2008-04-23 Thread cedrico dacosta
Is the Goa Government functioning at all?

Come summer when the going gets hot in Goa, most of
the MLAs and Ministers take a vacation...much deserved
as they sweat a lot to work for the upliftment of the
aam aadmi...

recently we had three congress legislators enjoy the
gift of a holiday to new zealand and australia...as
the government termed it a study tour...much is
desired that the three holiday makers learnt a lot of
good governance and administration down under and will
soon implement it for the betterment of
Goa...wait...first their respective constituencies and
then spread it to the rest of Goa...

The CM continues his trips to Delhi...Churchill went
to Kuwait...and Goa continued to suffer due to lack of
administration ...

The PWD promised much under churchill...till date the
work on the proposed second zuari bridge has not even
started...

now they will say the monsoon is here soon and works
will be held back...

the monsoons will bring with it its own
agonies...powershutdowns...potholed roads...and Goa
would witness a no administration for the wet
months...

As the current dispensation enjoys a thin
majority...the elected legislators are busy to ensure
that their chair is steady and can hold their
weight...

the opposition legislators are busy trying to unseat
the govt...

so who works for the people...?

what is the progress done for the aam aadmi in the
past one year? the garbage dumps still continue...the
roads are death traps...the river princess continues
to be stranded at the beautiful candolim beach...Goa
continues to be looted...communial fanatics are
continuing their propoganda to turn Goa into a
Gujarat...

the poor continue to be poor and the rich continue to
be rich...the looters continue their loot and the
exploited continue to be exploited...

Is this the GOA we want to see? if in 2008 this is the
situation, imagine a few years down the line?

Regards
Cedric da Costa
Dubai


  

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Re: [Goanet] Talking Photo: Congress it's alliance having anemergency meeting

2008-04-23 Thread floriano

22 to be exact on recurring counts.

Surely Churchill is missing. Or for sure one unfortunate branch has taken 
the downward slide with sheer weight of the guest's girth.


But then it is unlikely that all 'black' are the cawing ones ad infinitum. 
Could there be some  cacooing type among the lot too?


Just wonderin

floriano
goasuraj


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Talking Photo: Congress  it's alliance having an emergency meeting

Congress 16, NCP 3, MGP 2, Ind. 1

Some MLA's/ministers missing as they are on a foreign trip? e.g. Churchill
Babush is also absent.

It looks like Goa Govt. in crises again.
Will Digu survive this time??

Emergency meeting at Top level
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[Goanet] Goan ... or Go On.....Identity...and Mathany's threat

2008-04-23 Thread Satyawan Govekar
I have just come back after 12 days from my village where I had no chance to 
read Goanet. Therefore I am saying sorry for the delay in reply to Sandeep-bab 
Heble's rejoinder about Mathany.

I am fully agreeing that Mathany was very good at his knowledge. But most of 
the time he was in jail and when he came to class he spoke more about politics 
which all the boys liked, more when he used bad words for the politicians like 
Shasikala. 

So Sandeep-bab is right when he is saying that Mathany was extremely humble, 
noble and a kind-hearted person, but as a teacher he did not do his primary 
duties. But he was defiantely better then teachers like the drunk Nakulan.

Nobody can never ignore that Mathany was always standing with the poor people 
and the Ramponkars. Nobody can ignore his sincere contribution to issue of Goan 
people. Even I salute him for his courage to support Parrikar Government when 
the Congress puppet Governor threw democracy out of the window. But how can we 
ignore the wrong acts of then speaker Satarkar. Like that only we cannot ignore 
Mathany's mistakes. 

The last time he spoke similar threats was during Meta strip agitation. Lot of 
people (including two of my friends) who followed him got beaten and were put 
in jail. Cases are going against some still. But when Mathany became MLA and 
minister he changed his position and ignored help to his followers. That is why 
he lost last elections to the crook Mauvin.

What he did with his threat is only make loud noise. Just think Sandeep-bab 
what is different between Babush and Mathany if they are going to instigate 
violence and it is poor people who will suffer.

I repeat my opinion that the biggest culprits are those who passed the SEZ 
policy for Goa. So Mathany must first throw his threats against all the MLAs of 
previous assembly. And he was one of them or not?

Satyamev Jayate


[Goanet] Hill-cutting activities to figure at Aldona Gram Sabha

2008-04-23 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil
Herald, 23 April 2008, p. 5.

Hill-cutting activities to figure at Aldona Gram Sabha

Herald Correspondent

PORVORIM, APRIL 22: The controversial hill-cutting activities at
Carona-Aldona are expected to figure prominently at the Gram Sabha
of Aldona panchayat on April 27.

The Aldona Bachao Abhiyan (ABA) The Aldona Bachao Abhiyan (ABA)
has been distributing leaflets and conducting street-corner
meetings in the village to raise awareness about the adverse
effects of construction projects which flout the law and are
harmful for the village ecology and cultural heritage.

In a press note, the ABA spokesperson, Dr Maria Aurora Couto, has
called upon the villagers to participate in creating a development
plan for providing employment, education, water supply,
transportation, electricity, sanitation, promotion of agriculture,
fisheries, agro-industries, small industries and computer-based
services and training.

In this plan special consideration will be given to those below
the poverty line, and members of SC and OBC communities, the
press note stated.

Dr Couto reiterated the need for sustainable development of Aldona
and preventive measures to ensure that village assets are not
destroyed, leading to irretrievable degradation of ecology and
environment, which are the very foundation of life and livelihood.

The ABA has alerted the authorities that projects in the pipeline
should be strictly scrutinized according to the rules and
regulations and has also suggested that loopholes regarding
conversion of land and Floor Area Ratio should be eliminated.

Meanwhile, the newly formed ABA Committee consists of Dr Maria
Aurora Couto (Spokesperson), Milton Fernandes and Sainath Pednekar
(Co-Convenors); Nandkumar Raikar (Treasurer); Charmaine de Souza
(Secretary) and Mariette Correa, Marie D'Souza, Vidyadhar Gadgil
and Benjamin D'Souza (members).

-- 
Question everything -- Karl Marx



[Goanet] KONKANI CINEMA DAY

2008-04-23 Thread Goanet AE

KONKANI CINEMA DAY

Dalgado Konknni Akademi in collaboration with Entertainment Society of Goa 
will celebrate Konkani Cinema Day Konknni Cholchitr Dis on Thursday, 24th 
April, 2008 at 4.30 p.m. at the Marquinez Palace Building, next to the Old 
Goa Medical College Building, Panjim. The first Konkani film Mogacho 
Anvddo was released on this day 58 years back, i.e. on 24th April, 1950. 
The film was produced by AL Jerry Braganza from Mapusa, Goa.


On this occasion Mr. Nhikil Desai, the Member Secretary of ESG will be the 
Chief Guest while Mr. Prasad Lolyenkar, Director of Art  Culture Department 
will be the Guest of Honour. Mr. Tomazinho Cardozo former Speaker of Goa 
Legislative Assembly will preside over the function.


The Konkani Film Amchem Noxib will be screened on the occasion. Producers, 
director, artistes and lovers of Konkani film are invited to attend the 
function.



Secretary
Dalgado Konknni Akademi.



[Goanet] An Ashram for Senior Citizens

2008-04-23 Thread edwardingoa
  *An Ashram for Senior Citizens*
 Near Cannoria Convent,
Behind Viegas Dept. Store,
Arpora, Bardez, Goa, INDIA.
Phone: 91(832) 5643610, 2472740
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[Goanet] Heartfelt Condolences

2008-04-23 Thread Chandrakantha n.s
Dear Fredrick,

My hearfelt condolences to you and your family.

May the

-- 
With best wishes  regards
Chandrakanth. N. S

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Re: [Goanet] Soter D'Souza on Goans Awake and Goans Lost

2008-04-23 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Hi Rajan
 Please tell us what your sentence below means.
Thanks
 Cornel
--- Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To Goanet -
  The 'debate' about Goan Identity is a non-debate.  


 



[Goanet] POEM: SCARLETT KEELING (Herald - April 21/08)

2008-04-23 Thread edward desilva
Hi,
  There are some women who has got it in for GOAN MEN.
  They will cease any opportunity, be it true or false and make a meal of it.
  Does Jane know where and when a person needs psychiatry? or is it a new word 
she has learnt and wants to use it on Goanet - so she picks on 'Goan men'.
  I have not heard any one say she deserves it, may be I have read somewhere 
that Fiona deserves it (may be) for leaving her daughter behind and 
gallivanting, but never Scarlet.
  It is women who get the wrong end of the stick that needs psychiatric 
treatment.
  ED.
  --
  If the answer of any male Goan is YES, to my above question, then,
he definitely needs psychiatric treatment, because this  not HUMAN
behaviour.  Regards,  Jane

RESPONSE: Not fair, in your mind's eye...please mention at least one
Goanetter who stated she deserved it? For that matter please mention
at least one Newspaper that stated she deserved it.

Whatever you are drinking Mario and I need it, like yesterday! 
DEV BOREM KORUM.
Gabe Menezes.
London, England


   
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[Goanet] Talking photos: The process of making Caju Fenni/Urak

2008-04-23 Thread JoeGoaUk
Talking photos: The process of making Caju Fenni or urak
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2437001399/sizes/l/

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[Goanet] Talking Photos: Please identify these plants/fruits/leaves

2008-04-23 Thread JoeGoaUk
Talking Photos: Please identify these plants/fruits/leaves

They look like Bindam (Kokum)... 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2437085957/sizes/l/
or
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Test your eye sight: 
Leaves ??
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[Goanet] sing for global working

2008-04-23 Thread jane gillian rodrigues


 Dear Gabe,

As per your e-mail below, Congratulations on being one of the few, 
action-oriented, environment-conscious Goans who sang to make people aware 
of Global warming.


As a human being, it is my duty to say thank you for the great work you 
are doing.  All of us Goans appreciate it.


God Bless you in all your endeavours,

Jane 



Re: [Goanet] Talking Photo: Congress it's alliance having an emergency meeting

2008-04-23 Thread renebarreto

Great ...I downloaded the larger size -
but could not figure out who was missing ?


rene 


Re: [Goanet] IA has let us down in the past

2008-04-23 Thread Benedict

Hi Mario, Cedrico,

 I do respect your views and I must admit that I am one of those who dont 
fly with IC but that is because of various reasons ,like they dont fly on a 
thursday.However we must look at the greater good of the Goan 
community.We have been getting hundreds of emails from fellow goans here in 
the UAE in the past few days writing about their harrowing experiences 
travelling via Mumbai for their elderly and mothers with children.It has not 
been easy for them to spend the whole day at Mumbai airport and change 
flights.We had written to the chairman of Kingfisher Airlines but they do 
not have the nessarary permissions to operate flights in this sector and 
they said they will look into it in the future.That is if they ever start 
flights to UAE, I am sure it will be for profitable sectors like Mumbai or 
Kerala.IC being a national carrier,its our best bet to get a direct flight 
service to Goa.So I would like to go with the view of Cynthia, that 
Something is better than nothing.


Jet  Kingfisher may not happen at all as nobody wants to pick up what IC 
calls a loss making sector.

So guys lets not lose what we allready had for something we might nevr get.
So pick up your pens and your laptops and start writing to Goa Govt, IC,NRI 
Comission and people in Authority to get back what we allready lost.If not 
for our sake ,but for the sake of our fellow Goans.


Best Wishes
Benedict
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Keeping The Konkani Culture Alive ! Worldwide
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[Goanet] Condole nce to the Noronha family ( Frederic Noronha)

2008-04-23 Thread Vito Oliveira
I hereby express my heartfelt sympathies to you and the whole Noronha family
for the great  loss of your beloved mother .May God bless her Soul.

 

 

 

 
Vito Oliveira

 
President Goan Association Germany

 
Goa-germany.org



[Goanet] Goa news for April 24, 2008

2008-04-23 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** \'\'The Hills\'\' recap: Lo steps up - Entertainment Weekly
[Apr 22, 2008]  Cue Heidi rummaging through her own closet
discussing what to wear with Stephanie, whose claim that
''literally everyone goes [to Goa] on Thursdays'' ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20193934,00.htmlcid=1153192221ei=hMYPSNG7CIvgwQHZr-TzBgusg=AFrqEzeX3ghVBLJefeV7WeSVoaate1vodA

*** Singapore topples Hong Kong on Indian\'s hot destination
chart - Economic Times
[15 hours ago]  23 Apr, 2008, 0257 hrs IST, PTI BANGALORE:
Indians preferred Singapore over some other world favourites
including Hong Kong while Delhi and Goa beat Mumbai ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Singapore_topples_Hong_Kong_on_Indians_hot_destination_chart_/articleshow/2973239.cmscid=1153343183ei=hMYPSNG7CIvgwQHZr-TzBgusg=AFrqEzdfVcp44NHColggLXW7sxWMFVBoAw

*** Goa Carbon posts Rs 1548.98 lakh profit - Navhind Times
[Apr 22, 2008]  The Board of Directors of Goa Carbon Ltd (GCL),
a part of the Rs 1200 crore Dempo Group and the second largest
manufacturer ofcalcined petroleum coke (CPC) ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=042334cid=1153227772ei=hMYPSNG7CIvgwQHZr-TzBgusg=AFrqEzfXCIyyv10XaQ6pKNVEqcVkSMs9Ow

*** First international baseball tie to be held in Goa today -
Navhind Times
[Apr 22, 2008]  Goa will have the privilege of hosting the 1st
baseball match with the American team drawn from warship USS
Cole taking on Goa state team at Jawaharlal ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=042314cid=1153226508ei=hMYPSNG7CIvgwQHZr-TzBgusg=AFrqEzfXG63ma0YktZNQxlpi-8UJbAtPCA

*** Surveillance to be stepped up on Goa-Karnataka border -
Hindu
[9 hours ago]  Goa shares its boundary with Karnataka's Karwar
district in West and Belgaum in South. Also, the state corridor
has thick forest and many subways running ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200804231972.htmcid=1153289520ei=hMYPSNG7CIvgwQHZr-TzBgusg=AFrqEzeg2fMm71lAKY5EtYctUdazMMWbPg

*** Keeling case: Deliberate botch-up by Goa Govt? - Times
Now.tv
[8 hours ago]  Highly placed sources have told TIMES NOW that
the Center may not accept the Goa Government's demand for a CBI
probe into the case. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.timesnow.tv/Newsdtls.aspx?NewsID=7594cid=0ei=hMYPSNG7CIvgwQHZr-TzBgusg=AFrqEzdUUYF1JQxVfwWf3XZYqXtyDJalWA

*** Kanye\'s Fashionably Late to His Own Fete - E! Online
[3 hours ago]  Stars like Paris Hilton, Benji Madden, Lauren
Conrad, Minka Kelly and the Kardashian siblings flocked to Goa
last night, where Absolut 100 hosted the ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/hwood_party_girl/b132522_Kanyes_Fashionably_L.htmlcid=1153442443ei=hMYPSNG7CIvgwQHZr-TzBgusg=AFrqEzeAcYekPul4ntONJ2uziJr8NsLIag

*** Goa crime branch to probe MMS scandal - Times of India
[Apr 21, 2008]  PANAJI: The Goa government has transferred the
investigation into the MMS sex scandal to the State Crime Branch
from the local police, police said on Monday ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Goa_crime_branch_to_probe_MMS_scandal/articleshow/2968954.cmscid=0ei=hMYPSNG7CIvgwQHZr-TzBgusg=AFrqEzeC-juVOsW5DCTfsxNKyF8R7j6hWw

*** Goa charity couple\'s burglary heartache - Lancashire
Telegraph
[Apr 22, 2008]  Ken Burrows had saved hundreds of pounds to set
up a charity fund for orphans in Goa but lost it all when
thieves targeted his former home in Alexander ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.2217223.0.goa_charity_couples_burglary_heartache.phpcid=1153219699ei=hMYPSNG7CIvgwQHZr-TzBgusg=AFrqEzeVqPYUor49m7WWII2BWpSHK0b7Sg

*** Don Boscos rout UG, AVC win at Goa Rolling Trophy - Arab
Times
[15 hours ago]  In the final match of the day, hosts GOA
Maroons edged past holders United Friends Club by a solitary
goal. Goa Maroons took total control of the match ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.arabtimesonline.com/kuwaitnews/pagesdetails.asp?nid=15874ccid=10cid=0ei=hMYPSNG7CIvgwQHZr-TzBgusg=AFrqEzetPcPHvUSzlAc1PgIJPGaBq-soiQ


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet] Remo holds free concert to create awareness on global warming

2008-04-23 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:45:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marlon Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Unfortunately, the preponderance of science,
regulation and money is betting against Mario's
outmoded beliefs. I think president Bush forgot to
send Mario a personal memo that he too now accepts
global warming as fact.


Mario responds:

Hey, Marlon,

Regulation perhaps, but preponderance of science? 
Hardly.

If you had taken the time to read the numerous
sources I quoted in my post that you are responding
to, and my other recent posts in this same
thread, you would have been better informed, not only
about my opinions, but that of reputable CLIMATE
scientists.

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-April/072547.html

You would have learned that I have never denied the
fact of global warming as you falsely allege, but,
unlike you, I am aware of the serious debate among
CLIMATE scientists about the causes and extent of
future global warming and whether it is likely to be
catastrophic or beneficial.

Did you know that we had a similar warming trend
between 1900 and 1940, before human industrial
activity really got going, as we have seen after 1980,
and some global cooling after 1940 and not much
happening until about 1980?  I wonder if the models of
future warming can explain these anomalies.

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/info/warming/

While India and China have signed the Kyoto Protocols
they are both exempted from its requirements as are
all less developed countries.  What good are their
pledges when most of the European countries have been
unable to meet their own requirements so far.  If they
are serious, why don't they pass an amendment and
include them formally.  And, if you think India and
China are far behind in pollution levels, you have no
idea what is going on in either country.

A target of 20% from clean energy in India amounts to
a hill of beans by 2020 even if they can achieve this
after rejecting the US offer to help them build more
nuclear generated power plants.  If Al Gore is to be
believed, the north Goan beaches will be in Sangolda
by then:-))

Hey, Marlon, check this out.  Perhaps, finally,
someone like you can join with some of your
true-believer friends to claim this prize with all the
information you think you have at your disposal:

http://ultimateglobalwarmingchallenge.com/

Furthermore, I hope you have already become a vegan to
avoid being hoisted on the same petard that PETA is
hoisting the rest of your ilk:-))

http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/offset_gore





Re: [Goanet] POEM: SCARLETT KEELING (Herald - April 21/08)

2008-04-23 Thread Miguel Braganza
Dears,

Any one who believes that any other person [male or female;native,
tourist or migrant ..and in any circumstance] DESERVES to be raped,
needs his or her head examined by a Shrink. No two ways about that.

If anyone knows anyone on this list who has written thus, please name
this aberration. Perhaps, we can locate a counsellor and find sponsor
for the treatment.

Mog asundi.
Miguel

Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:22:56 +0100 (BST)
From: CORNEL DACOSTA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] POEM: SCARLETT KEELING  (Herald - April 21/08)
Hi Jane
Re your post, to me any male (or indeed female) who is
inclined to think that Scarlett Keeling or any other
woman deserved it meaning torture, rape and murder,
does not deserve to be called a human being and needs
some education badly.
Cornel DaCosta
--- jane gillian rodrigues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am shocked to read, that many male Goans, even
 some on this website, are very happy to state that
Scarlet - deserved it,
 Does any female, whatever the circumstance, deserve
 to be raped, murdered, tortured, physically abused,
burnt etc. in India, whether Indian or  foreigner?

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[Goanet] Condolences

2008-04-23 Thread marie
Dear Frederick

Please accept my condolences on the sad loss of your
mother.

-- 
marie


[Goanet] Fwd: RE: GOA LIBERATION

2008-04-23 Thread Gerald Fernandes


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[Goanet] Interpretation of POEMS

2008-04-23 Thread jane gillian rodrigues

Vanita and Shanti Doot,

Great poems,

Regards,

Jane
==

Gabe,

Thanks for replying to my e-mail and I am sure you enjoyed reading the poems 
of Shanti Doot and Vanita.


I am glad to know, that you and everyone else, agrees with me, 100%, that 
the young 15-year-old, Scarlet, did not deserve the torture and rape and 
death, she faced in Goa, no matter what the circumstances.


I love drinking Well Water from Carona and Tivim, and Carrot, Pineapple and 
Tomato Juice.


Try the above liquids - you will enjoy them.

Regards,

Jane 



Re: [Goanet] Non-goan Marathi wags his finger at Goans

2008-04-23 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet -

Mandaar Gajananrao Waghmare is not so 
much a Marathi as much as (in Soter's words) 
a lost Goan.  

For those who haven't yet figured it out 
the by now - follow the breadcrumbs to 
shippie.  Or head to a village in Bardez.

Adios (as we say in Brazil),


r


 See -
 
 http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=2975cid=14
 
 My remarks:
 As I have recorded here on Goanet earlier - soon
 they will be claiming that Goa's beauty, prosperity,
 civil manner etc etc etc are all due to migrants.
 But once Goa turns into a sea of excrement - then 
 the Marxists will step in and release a book with the
 title, 'Re-imagining Goa where it will be claimed
 that the beauty and character of Goa and Goans was
 always a myth, that no such thing existed, that
 ghatis have made Goa and given Goa its nuance 
 diversity and vibrancy.
 
 By the way, purely out of curiosity, who is 
 Mandaar Gajananrao Waghmare (assuming he
 exists)?
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 r


Re: [Goanet] Soter D'Souza on Goans Awake and Goans Lost

2008-04-23 Thread Chris Vaz

Dear Cornel--

Your query of Rajan reminds me of the time Lord Fauntelroy walked into a 
Rolls-Royce showroom, kicked tires, and asked the salesman--


What is the price?

Salesman:   If you must ask, sir, you can't afford it!

That says it all, doesn't it?

Cheers!
Chris



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Subject: Re: [Goanet] Soter D'Souza on Goans Awake and Goans Lost



Hi Rajan
Please tell us what your sentence below means.
Thanks
Cornel
--- Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


To Goanet -
 The 'debate' about Goan Identity is a non-debate.









Re: [Goanet] Obituary: Felicia Maria Coutinho de Noronha

2008-04-23 Thread jerry sousa
Dear Fred, Sorry to hear of your mother's passing from this earth. She must 
have been a formidable woman, of a generation we shall not see the likes of 
again.


  Regards
   Jerry 



[Goanet] SUDDENLY

2008-04-23 Thread gracias tome

My Dearest UAE Goans

You UAE Goans are suprised for sunddenly stopping IA flights to Goa.lucky 
guys UAE Goanswe Goans in kuwait are unlucky inspite of IC flying 3 times a 
week to goa


because I think staff in kuwait of IA dont have the word suddenly in their 
dictionary for following reason from kuwait.


SUDDENLY YOUR BOOKING IS CANCEALED WITHOUT INFORMING
SUDDENLY FLIGHT IS DELAYED
SUDDENLY FLIGHT IS CANCEALED
SUDDENLY ACCOMPAINED BAGGAGE WEIGHT IS REDUCED
SUDDENLY YOUR BAGGAGE IS MISSING
SUDDENLY YOUR BAGGAGE ARRIVES AFTER THREE DAYS
SUDDENLY FARES ARE INCREASED

THERE ARE MANY MORE SUDDENLIES
GOD HELP THIS SUDDENLY CARRIER.
THANKS GUYS

TOME 





[Goanet] Konkan Curry: Task Farce and Masked Force

2008-04-23 Thread Miguel Braganza

Task Farce and Masked Force
Taking the electorate for a not-so-jolly ride!

By Miguel Braganza


The pot of rice for the staple Goan Xit-koddi, which was on slow fire since 
the notification of 04 October, 2007, is finally coming to a boil. 
Carona-Aldona residents and well-known couple, author Mrs. Maria Aurora 
Couto and former Advisor to the Governor of Goa and chairman of Goa's State 
Finance Commission, Mr. Alban Couto, as well as four other residents of 
Aldona signed and submitted personally on Monday 07 April, 2008, a petition 
to the Chief Town Planner of TCP Department and Chief Secretary of Goa 
asking them to halt the hill cutting and wanton destruction of the 
environment and social structure in the rural community of Aldona. The 
authorities responded positively, as they usually do initially now a days.


Flash back. On 26 December, 2006, the Goa Bachao Abhiyan had held a 
demonstration near the GRECL's Aldeia de Goa project at Bambolim, between 
Goa University and Bambolim Beach Resort. The Additional Collector-North Goa 
had issued a Stop Work order, vacated it , issued afresh and then it was 
withdrawn via a compromise by the Advocate General of Goa state and the 
lawyers of GRECL. The representatives of GBA were shell shocked to see this 
'quietest interruptus' by the legal luminaries in an open court in what used 
to be the Lyceum, not too far away from what Altinho was better known for 
till IPHB went to Bambolim. This was a master stroke, like some professional 
clay court tennis playing duo.


As per the notification in the Official Gazette on 26 February, 2008, the 
Government had revised the date of the Interim Report of the Task Force on 
Regional Plan from 15 December, 2007 to 15 March, 2008. Obviously the ninety 
days were not enough and the change of mandate, converting architects into 
draughtsmen, made the task worse for the town and country planners. Perhaps, 
they ought to agitate like the feni manufacturers and bottlers' 
association of Goa to replace the word country [as in country liquor] and 
replace it with white spirit. The TCP is surely acting like the phirang 
rulers over the native people, changing the rules to suit the rich and rob 
the poor. They now want to make the nterim report public after the Statehood 
Day and closer to the Mrig Nakshatra, the herald of the rains, to forestall 
any agitation. There is still a month left for us.


The work on the Aldona site has been stopped as it was illegal [and a 
cognizable offence with imprisonment up to one year and/or fine up to 
Rs.1,00,000/-] to cut the hill without specific written permission of the 
CTP as per Sections 17-A and B specially inserted in 1992 to give teeth to 
the TCP Act, 1974. It was not stopped because of Mr. Alban Couto, though his 
participation speeded the process like no one else could. As in the case of 
Aldeia de Goa, the wheels of the well-oiled system are churning, 
spreading disinformation and mobilizing support with the immense money power 
that defines the Real Estate business. In the case of the Bambolim project 
the 33 percent slope has disappeared and is replaced by an average slope as 
GRECL could afford to buy a large property and a few people as well.


The Aldonkars have not rested with a petition signed by half a dozen 
persons. The petition has been slightly modified to include some information 
that has since become available [and translated in to Konkani and Marathi 
for easy understanding by the potential signatories, in Aldona village to 
begin with] and has received almost a thousand signatures already in ink. 
Poignant scenes that exemplified the campaign included an elderly lady who 
wanted to sign but was not literate to do it. She affixed her left hand 
thumb impression using ink from a old fashioned fountain pen as no 'ink 
pad' was readily available. Each one does what he or she can for Goa's 
sake!!


There have been a lot of Aldonkars and concerned citizens from other places 
enquiring how they can help fight the anti-people development that is 
threatening and destroying Goa. To serve this constituency of those who are 
not currently resident in Aldona/Goa, an online petition hosted at 
http://www.petitiononline.com/SaveGoa/petition.html The petition is 
available in Konkani [in Roman script] at the netgroup 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] . The website of the Aldona Bachao Abhiyan is 
under construction .This is the cyberage, after all.


The Aldona Bachao Abhiyan (ABA) core group met at Carona in mid- April and 
called on the authorities to prevent the breach of law while granting 
construction licenses as there have been reports that tenanted Communidade 
land is being sold by the tenants in connivance with some of the members of 
the Communidades in different villages. As per the Agricultural Tenancy Act, 
no tenanted agricultural field can be converted for non-agricultural purpose 
such as housing. Two applications for inspection of files under the Right to 

[Goanet] UTT GOENKARA DARES AG KANTAK TO A PUBLIC DEBATE

2008-04-23 Thread airesrod
Utt Goenkara has today challenged Goa’s Advocate General Mr. Subodh Kantak to 
an open public debate on the alleged very serious charges against him of double 
and excessive billing. 
 
Utt Goenkara has reiterated that all allegations made against India’s highest 
paid Advocate General Mr. Subodh Kantak were based on verified documentary 
proof, facts and figures received from the Law department under the Right to 
Information Act. 
 
Mr. Subodh Kantak had billed the government Rs eight lakhs sixteen thousand for 
his appearance in the High Court on 27th January 2006 in the Saleli riots case 
involving the bail applications of 102 accused where the Advocate General was 
paid 102 times Rs 8000 although factually it being a common argument for the 
whole batch of bail applications the Advocate General should have charged only 
Rs. 8000/.  
 
In the PIL challenging the appointment of Parliamentary Secretaries, Mr. Subodh 
Kantak was paid Rs 8000/- twice for appearing on 24th July 2007.  
 
The very fact that the Goa government has now moved swiftly to bring the 
Advocate General’s fee structure on par with other states vindicates Utt 
Goenkara’s stand that the fee of Rs 8000/ - per case per day which was  being 
paid to the Advocate General was very exorbitant. 
 
Mr. Subodh Kantak cannot mislead the people of Goa as the official records were 
very clear that the hike in AG’s fees to Rs 8000/ per case per day was approved 
by the then Pratapsingh Rane cabinet on 21st September 2006 and not by the 
Parrikar government as is sought to be projected by Mr. Subodh Kantak. 
 
It was only Mr. Subodh Kantak who could have upheld the dignity of the high 
constitutional post of Advocate General but that Mr. Kantak by his own glaring 
misdeeds has brought irreparable disrepute and disgrace to the post entrusted. 
 
Besides Utt Goenkara, the Congress Legislative Party (CLP) at its last meeting 
was highly critical of the Advocate General’s conduct and the UGDP, Save Goa 
Front and the Shiv Sena have also strongly reprimanded Mr.Subodh Kantak and 
demanded his removal from the high Constitutional post of Advocate General. 
 
One wonders as to why Advocate General Mr. Subodh Kantak after receiving 2 
crores 55 lakhs 97,012 rupees by way of fees for June 05 to August 07, shied 
away from addressing the recent session of the Goa Legislative Assembly and 
clarifying his position vis a vis the huge amounts claimed by him by way of 
fees.

Aires Rodrigues
Spokesman
Utt Goenkara


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[Goanet] Compiling a list of restaurants/bars that are suspected of serving frog legs

2008-04-23 Thread Clinton Vaz

Hi Neil,

I think its finally time to call a spade, a spade. Martin's Corner at 
Betalbetim tops my tiny list of four restaurants/ bars that serve frogs 
legs.


WildGoa is working to compile a list of rogue restaurants/bars, so 
everyone reading this, please step up and publicly (or offlist), name 
all the Shakari Spice Plantations, Anoushkas, Five Flowers and Martins 
Corners in Goa that defy the ban and serve frog legs and other banned 
wild meat. We won't directly accuse them saying that you said so, but 
simply publicly petition the Forest Department to issue notices to these 
places and ensure that adequate publicity is given when these notices 
are issued.


This is very possible, and has been done in the past in Goa, with very 
successful results. If it does not scare the restaurant, the publicity 
will shame them.


Let's make a difference this season. Step up and help us compile this 
list everyone! we need YOUR support. We meet the Forest Dept on Friday. 
Any responses before then will be most appreciated.


Clinton..
+91 9890936828

Neil Alvares wrote:
Hello everyone, Well I really do hope something can be done in this 
area. If anyone is looking for  nice place to start some action, 
Theres a Famous restaurant at 'BETALBATIM in the South,  it is really 
very popular and does such fantastic business that they don't need to 
serve their  specialty dish (Called 'Jumping Chicken'), but yet they 
dish out hundreds of orders an evening. I had a couple of arguements 
there ages ago but to no avail... I hope something can be done about 
it. If you're looking for the restaurant.. just follow the signboards, 
 the restaurant starts with an 'M' and has an art in in it (oops 
repeated word)... or is it??




[Goanet] LIMERICK FOR THE DAY 78 - CONDOLENCES TO FREDERICK NORONHA

2008-04-23 Thread Shanti Dhoot
CONDOLENCES TO FREDERICK NORONHA


It is a cliché that some day we all have to go, one after another,

But I grieve with you more than ever, over the loss of your mother,

For well and truly has it been said -

And now you know it personally, Fred -

The loss of a mother is without doubt, like that of no other.



--  Shanti Dhoot


Re: [Goanet] Goan ... or Go On.....Identity...and Mathany's

2008-04-23 Thread Venantius Pinto
This email / response by Satyavan Govekar is is my opinion (as if it
counts) one of the most civilized emails to be posted on Goanet.

venantius j pinto


 From: Satyawan Govekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Goanet] Goan ... or Go On.Identity...and Mathany's
threat

 What he did with his threat is only make loud noise. Just think Sandeep-bab 
 what is different between Babush and Mathany if they are going to instigate 
 violence and it is poor people who will suffer.

 I repeat my opinion that the biggest culprits are those who passed the SEZ 
 policy for Goa. So Mathany must first throw his threats against all the MLAs 
 of previous assembly. And he was one of them or not?

 Satyamev Jayate


[Goanet] Congress Party: Take One

2008-04-23 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
Government of India, for that matter Congress party, should hang Mohammad
Afzal Guru on the same day when Sarabjit Singh will be hanged to death. 

Why Sonia and Manmohan Singh are shielding Mohammad Afzal Guru from hanging
to death?

Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad