[Goanet] Save the Frogs Campaign: Update in early June

2008-06-12 Thread Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão

I do not know who all sat down to draft the Indian Constitution (as I was not 
an Indian then). Reading now the daily news around, it looks to me that certain 
species of animals are more protected than the others.  If a human being is 
murdered, run over by a vehicle, killed by a mad dog bite, harassed by monkeys, 
threatened by stray animal on roads; the law does not provide any protection to 
these two legged animals. On the contrary, if these two legged animals catch a 
frog, kill a mad dog, or cow or an aggressive monkey, the law enforcers rush to 
protect these animals and arrest the two legged ones. Which makes me derive at 
a conclusion that these two legged animals must have been a minority when the 
constitution was drafted. Or the other possibility that comes to my mind is a 
retrogressive evolution taking place with many of the two legged animals having 
genes of four legged ones. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão









 
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[Goanet] Kanika Datta: Rain of terror (Business Standard)

2008-06-12 Thread Philip Thomas
All of this is negated by a city in which municipal services have
deteriorated beyond belief, even for its ever-tolerant denizens. This is
true for most Indian cities. Whether it is Mumbai, Delhi, Bangalore,
Hyderabad or Pune, the strange fact is that India's urban standards have
deteriorated almost as rapidly as the country's economic growth has
accelerated. As much as Indian newspapers choose to trumpet the country's
future superpower status, the sad fact is that none of its cities can
provide a lifestyle that matches that in even the smallest of the Asian
tigers.
http://www.business-standard.com/common/news_article.php?leftnm=10bKeyFlag=
BOautono=325853
It may be just too much of a stretch to expect Goa to prove it can be an
exception. Pity.




[Goanet] Phds are time wasters ?

2008-06-12 Thread Samir Kelekar
--- On Wed, 6/11/08, edward desilva guirimboy at yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Who in their right mind would want to do PhD when they can
 get a job?


This is another comment on the lines of Goa is a toilet.

If one sees what drives the top firms of today such as google, yahoo,
Microsoft, you will find that it is a whole lot of top class engineers
many of whom have PhDs.

In fact, google and yahoo were founded by Stanford PhD students. If Sergie Bin, 
and Larry Page had listened to Edward and taken up jobs instead
of going for a PhD (and yeah, they were not getting any jobs :-)) we
wouldnt have had a google now.

In fact, it is widely acknowledged that engineering PhDs are crucial
to maintain a country's technological edge.

Some of the critical problems of today (some of which the top firms are 
frantically trying to solve in the race for future leadership) such as natural 
language based search etc in fact require more rather than less
PhDs.

regards,
Samir



  


Re: [Goanet] Not all peaceful in GOA

2008-06-12 Thread Sandeep Heble
Selma Carvalho writes: Furthermore, if we as Goans are looking for a single
Saviour to save Goa, then I'm afraid the Jews are busy and the last one made
an appearance some 2000 years ago. Despite the fact that a lot of noise is
generated on Goanet, and a feeling created that Goa is approaching impending
Apocalypse unless a revolution is initiated toute suite, the fact is change
comes slowly. So be patient and do your bit to Change Goa, rather than
hoping for someone to Save Goa.

Well said Selma. Just as some people are trying to blame the GBA here,
another member in another community that I am a part of tried to blame the
entire Journalist Fraternity for our present woes in a similar kind of
discussion happening there.
My Response to him in that community: Be the Change you want to see in the
World

In his early days as President of our Nation, Our Country's foremost
Scientist Dr Abdul Kalam gave a highly inspiring speech in Hyderabad.

In his thought provoking address, Kalam spoke how we citizens would always
sit back wanting to be pampered, expecting others to do everything for us
whilst our own contribution would tend to be generally negative. We would
complain that our Government is inefficient, that our laws are too old, and
that our country has been fed to the dogs and is the absolute pits. We would
complain and complain but would not want to do anything about it.

So who's going to change the system? Kalam rhetorically asked his audience
What does a system consist of? Very conveniently for us it consists of our
neighbours, other households, other cities, other communities and the
government. But definitely not me and YOU.

The crux of Kalam's message was that while the Country was being raped and
abused, we preferred to lock ourselves along with our families in a safe
cocoon instead of trying to make positive contributions. That instead of
trying to change the system, we were hell-bent on playing the blame-game,
waiting for a Mr. Clean to come along  work miracles for us with the
majestic sweep of his hand.

On this note, I remember Rang De Basanti, a movie I enjoyed watching
thoroughly, and I must have watched it at least 4 times. The dialogues from
this movie continue to linger in my mind, one of them being: Kaunsa Bhi
Desh Accha nahin hota, use accha banana padta hai. Sometime back, I got
into a chat with Aaron( Pereira) when I noticed a somewhat similar quote of
Mahatma Gandhi's, Be the change you want to see in this world, in his chat
profile. So I presume Aaron would agree with this line of thinking. So would
Pravin, Dr Oscar, Patricia, Ritu Prasad and so many others who are devoting
so much of their time and efforts, trying to bring about a change in the
system, trying to make Goa a better place for themselves and others too to
live in!

I would hate to point fingers at the Journalists for were I to do so there
would be fingers pointing towards me as well. If they did not report the
rape when it was happening, we did not too. After all, Goa is not just their
mother but ours too!

So instead of trying to blame the whole world for our mess, let's be
inspired by the actions of our Activists, emulate them and join and support
them in the best possible way we can. Each one of us must try and be like
the cop in a uniform. Let's be the change we want to see in the world.

Cheers
Sandeep


[Goanet] Want to buy FN book on Goa media

2008-06-12 Thread MYLAPORE TIMES

Hello

I am keen to buy a recent book on Goa's media edited by Fred Noronha.  
I didnt get a response from the publisher ( emailed).

Can some one guide/help please?
Had read abt it on Goanet. .

Vincent D Souza
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2008-06-12 Thread edwardingoa
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[Goanet] Are there any regions of Goa that are not on the electric grid?

2008-06-12 Thread Marlon Menezes
Can anyone tell me if there are remote regions in Goa
that are not fed by the grid? If so, are there
organizations, schools, homes etc that are in need of
electricity?

Thanks,
Marlon


Re: [Goanet] Not all peaceful in GOA

2008-06-12 Thread Seb dc
SEZ mess: How it all started
PANAJI: The first time that the government considered SEZ was on December
29, 2004, when under the chairmanship of then chief minister Manohar
Parrikar a decision was taken at a GIDC meeting to earmark land for a food
park, a biotech park and an SEZ.. Of the three notified SEZ, two - K Raheja
Corpn Pvt Ltd and Meditab Specialties Pvt Ltd - had the blessings of then
chief minister Pratapsingh Rane and industries minister Luizinho Faleiro.
[Preetu Nair, TOI]

***
A few days back, I had asked the below.
This proves why Anil has no reply...to a simple question of why the
opposition is sleeping and the govt. is not functioning still after 1 year.
All the 40 thieves are busy looting and doesn't want to relieve his chair.
The question is : Why is Mathany making such a big noise now, and not then
when he was in the government. is it because now he cannot get his share,
beinge out of power? Must say, its a good trick to get into peoples good
books and collect sympathies for the coming hustlings. Then its back to
square one. Goans do have short memories...

The change should be now and if anybody on goanet who talk endlessly without
any valid suggestions cannot do their bit into saving Goa, then please do
not critize those who are doing their's.

If in goa and do have the inclination to do something worthy, join these
energetic persons at 3:30pm on 16th June, Mandovi Hotel.

hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb

 Just one question Anil, What is the opposition doing? are they not
 hand-in-glove with the upright  downleft Digu's congress? Why are we all
 discussing useless things when all 40 thieves are busy looting!

 From: anil desai [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  The convenor of GBA described our Goa Chief Minister Digambarbab Kamat
as
  amazingly forthright, upright, so on and so forth. This amazingly
 forthright
  gentleman assured all Goans that he will cancel all SEZs as people of
Goa
  have rejected them. He said this during the first week of January. Read
 the
  Oheraldo article by clicking on the link below to see how active our
 leader
  has been in scrapping the SEZs.
 
  Now, say three cheers to our amazingly forthright leaders of Goa
 government
  as well as the GBA.
 
  Dr Anil Desai
 
  http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=5258cid=2
 







[Goanet] The Right Move II Career in Sports, National Games GOA

2008-06-12 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE
The Right Move II 
Career in Sports, National Games GOA

(Taleigao Chess Academy(TCA) has published a book on
Chess and Education “The Right Move” on Jan 26 2008.)

Basic Idea is to hold few seminars/discussion of
personalities involved in sports and sports related
activities. 
Different aspect on the above topics will be discussed
which include functioning of different bodies such as
Govt. Dept, Associations, Clubs, Coaches, Parents,
Players, Schools etc. 

First seminar in this regard may be in First week of
July.

Output of seminar will be published in a book “The
Right Move II’ to be released on Jan 26 2009.

This book will also have Who’s Who in sports Goa.

Aim of the book is to give Knowledge of sports
activity in Goa, what is the current standard, what we
can achieve. What should be our Goal.
It will also inform about opportunities available in
different aspects/fields.

Primary School Students (6 to 11 years) Chess
Tournament wiil be held on Jan 24, 25, 26 2009 at
International Centre, Goa Dona Paula Expected
participation 1000 (around 500 from Goa, 500 other
parts of India few may be from other countries).

There may be exhibition and sale  of Sports related
books, instruments, gadgets etc at that occasion. 

Those who want to associate with this project may
contact Taleigao Chess Academy at Dynasty Manor,
Odlembhat, Taleigao Goa 403002. Ph.2451143, Mobile :
9403175973





  


[Goanet] Comedian Agostinho Troupe arrives in Kuwait for Konkani Drama POLICE on 13th June

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   The director has yet once again selected a very sensational topic and has 
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[Goanet] AFTER ZUWARKAR GOVT MOVES TO WITHDRAW CASES AGAINST KHALAP DESHPRABHU

2008-06-12 Thread Aires Rodrigues
 One wonders whether the Digambar Kamat government in Goa which professes to
care for the Aam Aadmi is going all out to save the skin of rich and well
connected politicians.

After having withdrawn the criminal case pending against former Minister Mr.
Somnath Zuwarkar the Goa government is now making a further mockery of the
judicial process by trying to withdraw the serious criminal cases pending
against former Union Law Minister Mr. Ramakant Khalap and former MLA Mr.
Jitendra Deshprabhu also under the guise of so-called public interest and
public good as done in the Somnath Zuwarkar case.

Is the stage being set to draw the curtain on the criminal case pertaining
to the infamous 2001 fake one day international cricket ticket scam pending
against the Law Minister Dayanand Narvekar and the remaining charges pending
against former Minister and now Deputy Speaker of Goa's Legislative Assembly
Mr. Mauvin Godinho.

Aires Rodrigues
T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat
Ribandar - Goa - 403006
Mobile: 9822684372


[Goanet] Lotter Scam - The Govt Allows Matka

2008-06-12 Thread Roland Francis
In todays' Mid-Day:

It is such a complex web, using operator servers, terminals and a
numeric matrix, that major players ensure that the lottery buyer is
forced to purchase tickets in bundles of tens, but he can only win a
paltry amount on his double-digit match, that too, on one of his 10
tickets. Thus, losing money on the remaining nine.

For the full article see:

http://www.mid-day.com/web/guest/news/mumbai/article?_EXT_5_articleId=1176264_EXT_5_groupId=14

Only a matter of time before some worthy entrepreneur this lottery
scam to Goa if it s not there already.

-- 
Roland Francis
416-453-3371


Re: [Goanet] Not all peaceful in GOA

2008-06-12 Thread floriano

Dear Sandeep,

This is to tell you that your post is highly appreciated.
BTW  Mahatma's quote We Must be the Change you want to see in the World is 
printed on the first page of  the Constitution booklet as well as the footer 
of the letterhead of the Goa Su-Raj Party.


We realized that a 'system' change was needed if Goa was to be saved. And so 
we sat down to design that 'system',  which took many a deliberations, a lot 
of heads put together in open discussions,  way back in the year 2000. And 
that system change was called the Goa Su-Raj Party. We also knew at that 
time, some 8 years ago,  that there would be many a forums and groups 
cropping  up as time went by, very determined and potent,  such as the GBA, 
UG, SVM, GMAS, GGRM, GGF etc. to try to arrest the increased and emboldened 
loot and plunder such as was evident in RP-2011. But at the same time we 
knew that apart from just trying to arrest and clean a little of the 
malaise, there would be precious little that could be done unless there was 
a SYSTEM change sought to be imposed through the renewed political writ. And 
we have not been proved wrong YET. The loot and plunder and the rape is 
continuing widespread with no one even knowing the extent of what is going 
on. For, one  must know what is going on before one decides to fight it. In 
this context, let me say that in Morjim, Kerim etc, there are blatant 
unlicensed and unauthorised building projects being initiated by the moneyed 
land mafia from Delhi and elsewhere where the entire panchayats have been 
bought. This is infact the fall-out of RP-2011  which we knew could not and 
will not be scrapped because a lot of money had changed hands with the same 
people (practically) in the hot seats. And this writ goes thus: If we 
cannot build officially, we shall build unofficially - a challenge, indeed. 
Is there anyone in the present government to take up this challenge


Therefore GBA, UG, SVM, GMAS, GGRM, GGF notwithstanding, this rape will 
continue until  we Goans realize that we need a 'system' change in the way 
we look at politics where the  'system' will not allow the loot and plunder 
and the rape of Goa and Goans. Call it by any other name but it will 
ultimately still remain POLITICS.


The sooner Goans like you and me realise it, the better it will be for our 
posterity.


floriano
goasuraj


- Original Message - 
From: Sandeep Heble [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Not all peaceful in GOA


Selma Carvalho writes: Furthermore, if we as Goans are looking for a 
single
Saviour to save Goa, then I'm afraid the Jews are busy and the last one 
made

an appearance some 2000 years ago. Despite the fact that a lot of noise is
generated on Goanet, and a feeling created that Goa is approaching 
impending
Apocalypse unless a revolution is initiated toute suite, the fact is 
change

comes slowly. So be patient and do your bit to Change Goa, rather than
hoping for someone to Save Goa.

Well said Selma. Just as some people are trying to blame the GBA here,
another member in another community that I am a part of tried to blame the
entire Journalist Fraternity for our present woes in a similar kind of
discussion happening there.
My Response to him in that community: Be the Change you want to see in the
World

In his early days as President of our Nation, Our Country's foremost
Scientist Dr Abdul Kalam gave a highly inspiring speech in Hyderabad.




So instead of trying to blame the whole world for our mess, let's be
inspired by the actions of our Activists, emulate them and join and support
them in the best possible way we can. Each one of us must try and be like
the cop in a uniform. Let's be the change we want to see in the world.



Cheers
Sandeep




[Goanet] Narve Bicholim residents unite to preserve Jain Temple

2008-06-12 Thread samir umarye
-- 
Samir Umarye


BICHOLIM JUNE 12: With the government's apathy towards a ruined Jain
temple the Villagers from Narve Bicholim,

since a decade, are trying hard to save the last remains of the temple
to maintain their rich heritage.

The villagers from Narve Bicholim with a concern over the ruins of a
Jain Temple have strongly expressed their

displeasure over the Archiological department's apathy in maintaining
this rich cultural heritage.

Narve which is famous for the Saptakoteshwar temple also has rich a
heritage which is totally neglected by the

government. According to the villagers there is a Jain Temple in ruins
which could be of historical significance.

The temple is now totally in ruins and some of the stones are laying
scattered in the area the ex-sarpanch of Narve

village,Vithal Chodankar told Herald some years back at least the
entrance of the temple was standing still, but now it

has either submerged or broken down into pieces.

The Jain Temple which once might have covered about 700 sq mts area is
now difficult to identify. Huge slabs of

historical importance are made to face the fury of nature and are the
only testimony of a Jain temple in the area.

The slabs have a peculiar design with swastik, goddess and an elephant
on them. The ruins of the temple are laying in an

inaccessible state on a hillock which is named as 'Jain coat' by the
villagers. Several of the stones are either submerged

under the soil, broken into pieces or covered with shrubs.

The villagers at times clean the area and remove the shrubs in a bid
to protect this heritage of their village. Long time

back when Rane was the chief minister he had instructed to do an
excavation at the site but no one turned up to take the

responsibility Vithal Chodankar disclosed adding some 10 years back
the department officers had taken some idols

from the site but never bothered to preserve this heritage.

During the course of time the villagers also recovered several idols
and to save them from being smuggled they

introduce a new technique. The idols were dumped into the near by
river so that they remain in the village as it is our

heritage and we felt it a need to protect it from being misused
Chodankar claimed.

The department had taken about three idols and i have noticed one of
them in the museum at Old Goa and as per their

claim it is dated 500 BC Khema Chodankar another villager told,
questioning if the temple is so old then why is the

government not trying to save it?

Even as some of the idols were dumped into the river the villagers
have kept one at a place near by and have given it a

religious significance so that it remains safe in the area. As the
government has turned nelson's eye over the issue the

villagers have at least hoped that some of the disciples of the Jain
sect would look into the matter to restore the temple.


[Goanet] Mining poses danger to ancient artifacts of Mulgao Bicholim

2008-06-12 Thread samir umarye
-- 
Samir Umarye

BICHOLIM JUNE 12: The mining activities near Mulgao Bicholim has
affected the rich heritage of the village where

several antique elements including some religious artifacts seem to be
in danger.

Since long the villagers have found several idols, Shivlingas and
Hero stones in the area a villager and a teacher by

profession, Vidhyadhar Raut told Herald. Most of these artifacts were
recovered from the near by lake which has been

dried out due to mining activities carried out on the hillock.

During our childhood we used to enjoy swim in this village lake but
now it has totally dried out and it took just about

10 years for the entire change Raut laments adding several idols and
ancient Shivlingas found in the village were

dumped in the lake for safety and were later recovered when the
villagers did an excavation.

Some years back several people had smuggled many wooden idols from
the village and we got the news only when the

the damage was done Raut explained besides this the mining might
have already destroyed the heritage as is evident

from the dry village lake.

Some of the Shivlingas have now been placed near the lake under a
small thatched roof. By the side of this temporary

structure is another Shivlinga which is carved out from the hillock
and seem to be that of a laterite stone. The Shivlinga

is very rare and from its make out it is likely to be one of the
oldest in Goa the incharge of the Heritage Action cell,

Prajal Sakhardande told Herald when he visited the site.

Besides Shivlinga some Hero stones are also found in the village. One
of the Hero stone which is half broken has been

placed very close to the village and depicts four figures. While three
of them are playing some musical instruments the

other is shown laying down wearing a crown.

 The Hero stones are from the Kadamba period and are found at several
places in Goa, they were carved in

commemoration of the dead soldiers Sakhardande explained this proves
that in olden days there might have been a

war in the area and the stone is an evidence of the same.

Even as the mining and other environmental factors are degrading the
Mulgao's cultural wealth the villgers take pride in

preserving and maintaining their village heritage. These stones and
Shivlingas would be kept in the village and we are

making efforts so that they can be maintained Raut claimed we have
also proposed a special board so that the stones

could be identified.


Re: [Goanet] LIMERICK FOR THE DAY 127 - CASTE MENTALITY

2008-06-12 Thread Mario Goveia
From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] LIMERICK -  CASTE MENTALITY

 What the East African experience, (and some current
 Goanet posts) show is the issue is not caste but of
 innate jealousy mentality even among educated 
 Goans who otherwise should know better.

Mario asks:

What is it about the innate discrimination mentality
that is the ONLY reason for caste, do some educated
Goans not understand, who should know better?






[Goanet] NYTimes.com: Inside Gate, India's Good Life; Outside, the Servants' Slums

2008-06-12 Thread rubygoes
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HI BOSCO AND GOANET. IT WOULD BE NICE IF THOSE ON GOANET WHO ARE OPPOSED TO 
GATED COMMUNITIES READ THIS ARTICLE. LIFE IS HARD FOR SLUM DWELLERS.QUITE 
DEPRESSING. THANK YOU. RUBYGOES


INTERNATIONAL / ASIA PACIFIC | June 9, 2008
Inside Gate, India's Good Life; Outside, the Servants' Slums
By SOMINI SENGUPTA
Many members of India's upper middle class have moved to gated communities, 
with servants who live in nearby slums.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/09/world/asia/09gated.html?ex=1213934400en=9bb86ce596c0b6e8ei=5070emc=eta1




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[Goanet] Stability

2008-06-12 Thread Tony Correia-Afonso
CURE WORSE THAN DISEASE!
Veteran Congress leader Ram Niwas Mirdha is reported to have suggested
doubling of the strength of the Goa Assembly from 40 to 80 members as means
of ensuring stability and discouraging defection! The same objective could
be achieved equally effectively and more economically by reducing the
number of ministers by half, from the present 14 to 7!

Benaulim Goa:
12th.June 2008.  ---Tony Correia-Afonso.


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BRESTAR - PODD'DEA FATTLEAN (12) : �POISO� ETA KHUINCHEAN VETA KHUINCHEAN

2008-06-12 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com


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“POISO” ETA KHUINCHEAN VETA KHUINCHEAN
   
- Wilmix Wilson Mazarello 
   
   
   
  TIATR POLLOUPI
  Ek Tiatr, lokanche nodren, boro zalo zalear, kaim lok tiatrachea xevttak 
tallio pettoitat, zalear kaim lok tiatrache vedi-fattlean “green-room”-ant eun 
Nirmateak /Digdorspeak / Kolakarank bhett’tat ani  porbim ditat.
   
  Kaim lokank toslem poddlelem nam, punn tiatr boro lagla mhunnttoch, te 
khuxeal zaun ghara vetat. 
  Vetana lokamodem  kaim oslem ulovop  aikonk eta :- 
  1). Tiatr boro assa  2). Ho tiatr choltolo  3).  Hea season-ant ho tiatr 
“hit” 4). Ekar –ek kantar borem assa . 5). “Comedy”  chodd bori assa  6). 
“Story” samkich bori assa ... adi. adi. adi.
   
  Zor tiatr boro lagonk nam, zalear tallieo tor sodduch, boldek gallieo 
mellpachi xokea assa. “Green-Room”-ant porbim diunk, konn bhitor sorona. 
  Konn chukon bhitor sorlo zalearui tiatra-babtint  kainch mhunnona. Tacheruch, 
Nirmatean/ Digdorspean / Kolakarani somzopachem ki lokank “Tiatr boro lagonk 
nam”. 
   
  Oslo tiatr polloilea uprant lok Hall-antlo bhair sorta astana lokamodem oslem 
ulovop aikonk eta:- 
  1). Ponch Tiatr 2).  Titrak Orthuch nam. 3). “Time” piddear kelo .4).  Ek 
tori kantar aikopachem assonk zai aslem ? 5). “Comedy”-k orthuch nam, ek pautt 
tori hansonk mellonk zai  aslem?  6). Bekar poddleat, zainam zalear kiteak 
tiatr borounk fuddem sortat  mhunn konn zanna 7). Konnainkui kosloi “role” 
ditat ani titrache bhognar korun soddttat adi. adi. adi.
   
  Hem , lokanchem ulovop zaum mot, khuinchean tori Digdorspeachea / 
Nirmateachea / Kolakaranchea, kanar pauta. 
  Tem aikon,  boro tiatr keloleani khoxi zaupachem ani vaitt tiatr keloleani 
sudhorpacho proitn korpacho. 
   
  KENAIM BOREA TIATRAK LOK NASTA
   
  Zaite pautt oxeim zata, ki ek tiatr lokank avoddtta, punn tea tiatrak arthik 
ies mellona. (“Is not a financial success”). 
  Toxeim zaupak, kitlimxinch “karannam” astat.
  Punn aiz ami hea “Podd’dea Fattlean” lekhant toslea “karannan”-chi khobor 
korinant. 
   
  Choddxea lokank, vo tiatr-polloinarank legit  khobor nasta, tiatrantlo 
“poiso” khuinchean eta ani khuinchean veta to.
   
  Tor hea “Podd’dea Fattlean”  lekhant ami nodor marunea “Tiatrachem Budget” 
koxem-kitem asta ani tiatrant “Iennavoll” koxi-kitem  eta. 
   
  “POISO” ETA KHUINCHEAN VETA KHUINCHEAN
   
  Udharonnank gheunea, Kala Akademi Hall , Ponnje.
  Somzonea ek tiatr zata, Ponnje, Kala Akademi, A/C Hall-ant.
   
  Ponnje, Kala Akademi, A/C  Hall-ant, 900 lokank bospachi soulot assa.
  Tiatrachea Tikettinchi Dor:- Rs 60/-
   
  Zorui tiatr “Housefull” zalo, (mhunnge sogleo 900 tiketti khopleo), zalear 
“Iennavoll” eta. (Rs 60/- x 
900)..Rs
 54,000/-
  Zorui 800 tikettich khopleo zalear, Iennavoll” eta (Rs 60/- x 800).Rs 
48,000/-
  Zorui 700 tiketti khopleo zalear “Iennavoll” eta (Rs 60/- x 700 )...Rs 
42,000/-
  Zorui 600 tiketti khopleo zalear “Iennavoll” eta (Rs 60/- x 600)Rs 
36,000/-.
  Zorui 500 tiketti khopleo zalear “Iennavoll” eta (Rs 60/- x 500)Rs 
30,000/-
  Zorui 400 tiketti khopleo zalear “Iennavoll” eta(Rs 60/- x 400).Rs 
24,000/-
   
  Atam pollounea  Ponnje, Kala Akademi A/C Hall-ant kelolea tiatrachea ekach 
proeogak,”odmasan” kitlo khorch zata to:-
  Hall-achem  
“Bhaddem”...Rs 10, 000 /-
  Jahirati 
(Advertisements)..Rs   5, 
000/-
  Kalakaranchi mozuri (14 Artists @ Rs 500/- each)..Rs   7, 000/-
  Setting  Transport.(Vedi-Manddavoll/Haddpacho khorch.Rs   2, 000/-
  Mini Bus.(Kalakarank Haddpa / Vhorpacho khorch.Rs   1, 000/- . 
  Posters 
(2)..Rs
   2, 000/-
  Hand-bills, Tickets Printing ani Ticket Seller...Rs2, 
000/-
  
Rehearsals.(Essaio)Rs
1, 000/-
  Karbhari 
(Helpers).Rs
500/-
  Barik 
Khorch..Rs
2, 000/- 

 ---
  Total 
  Rs   32,500/-
   
  Mhunnttoch Ponnje, Kala Akademi,A/C Hall-antlea proeogacho khorchuch zata Rs 
32,500/-
   
  FAIDOCH FAIDO
  A) “House Full Show” zalo zalear Nirmateak / Digdorspeak tea 

[Goanet] Fwd: Re: Roque Felix Dias RIP

2008-06-12 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Note: forwarded message attached.
Hi Bosco
 I wonder if this post for publication on Goanet has
gone astray. I ask only because I have had no
'rejection' notification. Incidentally, I checked out
the facts that I presented in this post with the
family that suffered under Roque Felix Dias in
Mombasa. There was total agreement with what I wrote
as fact.
Cornel DaCosta


[Goanet] Temp secretary in oil n gas in uae

2008-06-12 Thread edwardingoa
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[Goanet] Tiatr Income Expenditure etc

2008-06-12 Thread JoeGoaUk
Tiatr Income  Expenditure: Some more facts

Let me add some more..

It was said a tiatr would require Rs.5000 towards advertisement per show.  But 
this infact can be lot less too. That Rs.5000 may be to advertise up to 5 shows 
i.e. Margao, Panjim, Mapusa etc in 3 separate inserts.
For just one show, one can spend mimimum of Rs.300-600 per insert (display ad 
in colour) and if the total inserts for the show are say 3 that the total 
expenses per show would be Rs.900-2400.

What one can get for Rs.600
At that price one can get the size of ATM or Credit cards display ad. i.e. 
5cmsx2cols
Note: All ads appear in Herald. Herald has special Drama rate I.e. about 25% of 
the normal rate.  Eg. If the same credit size display ad cost say Rs.2200 the 
same with Drama ad would be Rs.600 only.
Double the size of credit card would be Rs.1200 and if advertised for 4 shows, 
then each show ad would come to Rs.300

Most Tiatr Ads are sponsored by business firms, NRIs or friends and family.
To give you most recent examples:
Ben forthcoming tiatr ‘Pez’ 
Cyril Almeida ‘Koddu Soth’
Anil-Olga Tiatr
Mario Menezes ‘Hi Maim Konnachi’
Etc

As for public applause, I have also seen some tiatrists  arrange their own 
people preferably at the back rows, whom I treat as ‘fake audience’.

If the tiatr is doing pretty well, full house etc – then it like ‘Jo Jeeta Woh 
Sikandaar’ they can make even more money buy selling the tickets in black.

Last time I went for the 4th (Police) show at Panjim, around 11am, I saw a note 
saying ‘house Full”. However, half an hour before the show, I,e, around 3pm, I 
was told there were plenty tickets selling for Rs.150 (from Rs.60).

Again, we went on the 9th June same show (22nd show) at Margao, on enquiry 
Filip Almeid (the man also a tiatrist who sell ticket at the counter GVN) said 
‘all tickets sold out but balcony available’. However, there were some who were 
selling tickets in black for Rs.100 and that too right under Filip’s nose (at 
the counter). Don’t know who was actually involved in this racket. 

I did not want to break my record buying tickets in black so we bought ticket 
for balcony for Rs.50  (ticket price was showing Rs.30 though, it was altered 
by hand/pen to Rs.50), and yet the show was house full.

However, we left the hall in just one hour as we did not find the sitting 
arrangement in the balcony comfortable.  Viewing was obstructed by the people 
sitting in front rows and the stage actors faces were not recognizable as they 
were looking/facing right in front and not upstairs. One could not watch the 
tiatr by leaning back on theie seat, one had to lean forward for a clear view. 
The seats were of hard wood and not of cushions etc, The hall was supposed to 
have Air Condition but we did not feel cool at all.

When we saw (around 5pm) the ticket sale for the 24th show (same day at 
7.30pm), only last 3-4 rows were left, which mean the show gone house full too.
At Margao, I think the sitting capacity is 700+400= 1100
i.e.   700 x 60 Rs.42,000
again  400 x 50 Rs.20,000
= Rs.62,000 per housefull show
Which means
24x62= Rs.14,88,000 income for 24 shows alone.

Some POLICE  (not so good pics, as taken from balcony)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk12/2573693360/

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[Goanet] Israeli housing projects in Goa

2008-06-12 Thread Eddie Fernandes
Title: Yaakov Engel, Hezi Hermoni in Goa housing projects
Sub-title: The two will invest $500 million in three projects.
Source: Globes (Israel business news). 12 Jun2 2008 at
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/DocView.asp?did=1000351027fid=1725

Excerpts:  
Yaakov Engel and Hezi Hermoni have purchased land for the building of three
residential projects in Goa.  The project will be carried out through
Engel's privately-held real estate developer EngelInvest Group. The two
partners will invest $500 million in the building of 2,030 apartments. Engel
Invest expects the proceeds from the project to total $1 billion. The
projects are in Cortalim, Panaji and Dona Paula where the apartments will
reportedly sell at $5,000 per square meter.  295 words.  

Forwarded by Eddie Fernandes



[Goanet] EURO 2008 DRAW, proceeds to benefit Goa Sudharop

2008-06-12 Thread George Pinto
Folks, the random draw is over and the betting closed. Thanks to Gabe Menezes 
for organizing this and to those who bought tickets, see below. Good luck!

Regards,
George


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1 SpainAidan Pinto
2 France   Magdi Zakher
3 Greece   Mervyn Lobo
4 Portugal Chris Vaz
5 Croatia  Chris Vaz
6 Switzerland  Jose Rodrigues
7 Holland  Paulo Colaco Dias
8 Austria  Ian Ashwell
9 ItalyChris Vaz
10 Russia  Milan Kojnok
11 Turkey  Conrad Rodericks
12 Sweden  Chris Vaz
13 Romania Lily Menezes
14 Poland  Liam Pinto
15 Germany Gabe Menezes
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[Goanet] Yaakov Engel, Hezi Hermoni in Goa housing projects

2008-06-12 Thread Gabe Menezes
Yaakov Engel, Hezi Hermoni in Goa housing projects
The two will invest $500 million in three projects.
Ariel Rosenberg 12 Jun 08   15:45
Sources inform ''Globes'' that Yaakov Engel and Hezi Hermoni have
purchased land for the building of three residential projects in the
Indian state of Goa. The project will be carried out through Engel's
privately-held real estate developer EngelInvest Group. The two
partners will invest $500 million in the building of 2,030 apartments.
Engel Invest expects the proceeds from the project to total $1
billion. EngelInvest's CEO for global operations is Alon Avdani.

The first and largest of the three projects is a 1,600-apartment
complex in the Cortalim region overlooking the banks of Zuari river.
The second project is a 160-unit complex in the capital Goa, Panaji.
The third, and most luxurious of the three projects, is a
270-apartment complex in the upmarket region of Dona Paula, considered
the most luxurious region in Goa because of the breathtaking view from
the sea front. The apartments in this project will reportedly sell at
a price of $5,000 per square meter. The architect advising on the
projects is Avner Yashar of Yashar Architects.

Goa is known among travelers and tourists worldwide for the
breathtaking beaches along a 100 kilometer shoreline. It is considered
one of the richest states in India.

EngelInvest operates in India through local holding company Venosa,
which it jointly owns with Hermoni, who has been active in India for
15 years. EngelInvest owns 75% and Hermoni owns 22%. The CEO of Venosa
is Ronen Hermoni. The company plans to operate through Venosa in other
regions in South East India.

Hezi Hermoni is the former CEO of Tadiran Communications.

Published by Globes [online], Israel business news -
www.globes-online.com - on June 12, 2008

(c) Copyright of Globes Publisher Itonut (1983) Ltd. 2008

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England


Re: [Goanet] LIMERICK FOR THE DAY 128 - CASTE MENTALITY

2008-06-12 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Dear Shanti
 This is simply brilliant and on my favourite topic
too! I hope you will put your ever so original
compilations into a book reasonably soon. I would be
the first to purchase a copy.
Cornel
--- Shanti Dhoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 CASTE MENTALITY
 
 It is not quite judicious, to see the mote in
 another's eye
 
 While at the same time, the beam in one's own, deny.
 
 The evil of caste in India pervades every society,
 
 With a great deal of notoriety and variety,
 
 Unless you are prepared in the face of facts, to
 brazenly fly.
 
 What we need to do is totally extirpate this evil

 



Re: [Goanet] Photos of Porvorim disaster

2008-06-12 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Rajan P. Parrikar wrote:

 Restricting myself to the American university
 system, and specifically to the programmes in
 engineering and the physical sciences, a PhD 
 candidate is expected to have already acquired 
 sufficient width in his field (the preliminary 
 exams are intended to test this) before undertaking 
 specialized research.
 
 This topic is only of peripheral relevance to 
 Goanet, therefore this will be my last contribution 
 to this particular thread.

Mario observes:

Rajan,

Programs in engineering and the physical sciences?  I
thought your Ph.D. was in Indian Classical Music:-)) 
Of course, you are a thesis and dissertation short of
a second Ph.D. - in the use of photography in social
activism:-))

But seriously, I am glad to see you return to the
moral high ground of attacking the blight that is
swallowing Goa rather than trying to defend the
indefensible, the primacy of Ph.D's over medical
doctors, where you were on ground as shaky and
unstable as the wall in Porvorim. 

I am amazed what happened after your original post on
the disaster in Porvorim.  There was NOT ONE comment
on the disaster itself.  Instead, several heated red
herrings on Ph.D's versus Medical doctors, BJP versus
Congress, sarcasm versus seriousness, a snide cut and
paste excerpt on brain damage, the American poor being
as well off as middle-income Europeans, even a
learned discussion of Bamon versus Baman:-))

Obviously, for many Goanetters, the blight overtaking
Goa is a side issue that can quickly be diverted to
their own pet peeves:-))




[Goanet] Speed reading, writing AND comprehension

2008-06-12 Thread Mario Goveia
Mario Goveia wrote:

 Perhaps the problem is that I write in plain 
 American not plain English:-))? By the way several 
 Goanetters who live in the UK and communicate in 
 English, which I have some knowledge of, seem to 
 have no problems with my trenchant American prose.?

Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:27:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Then again, you also have been told repeatedly that
you?have problems understanding what you read on
Goanet.?An?example; I asked you to provide us?with the
email, post or website where you read that I 
recommended buying gold at $1,000. 

You?either:
1)?were not able to understand my question
? ?? or 
2) unable to find any reference.

Personally, I think the reason why you?are cowering
from this?challenge is because you had to?admit to
yourself that you did not understand what I wrote in
the first place.

I am still waiting for a reply to my question.
This?need not be a difficult exercise, especially
since you do?not require?funding from the US treasury,
in order?to?reply. 

Mario responds:

You can't be serious?!  You either have a short memory
or are a glutton for punishment!  My previous response
to your so-called challenge was rejected as
inappropriate, and I let it go.  Now you bring it up
again with your typical charming invective and snide
insinuations.  So, let me try again.

I would like Goanetters to carefully read what you
have written above before they carefully read the
following posts, the first one purely gratuitous and
admittedly Off topic:

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-March/070603.html

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-March/070950.html

And some reactions from your brothers in arms

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-March/070853.html

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-March/070908.html

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-March/070912.html






Re: [Goanet] Inside Gate, India's Good Life; Outside, the Servants' Slums

2008-06-12 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet -

This page was sent to you by: rubygoes at hotmail.com.
HI BOSCO AND GOANET. IT WOULD BE NICE IF THOSE 
ON GOANET WHO ARE OPPOSED TO GATED COMMUNITIES 
READ THIS ARTICLE. LIFE IS HARD FOR SLUM DWELLERS.
QUITE DEPRESSING. THANK YOU. RUBYGOES
INTERNATIONAL / ASIA PACIFIC | June 9, 2008
Inside Gate, India's Good Life; Outside, the Servants' Slums
By SOMINI SENGUPTA
Many members of India's upper middle class have moved to 
gated communities, with servants who live in nearby slums.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/09/world/asia/09gated.html?ex=1213934400en=9bb86ce596c0b6e8ei=5070emc=eta1
 



I lived in this nightmare called Gurgaon (touted
as the new India) for 6 months last year.  They
now seek to turn Goa into another Gurgaon.

Well over a year ago, I had posted this gallery.  
Time to take another look -

http://www.parrikar.org/images/Gurgaon/index.html


Also, another account of, er, Googaon.  With
the number of ghatis streaming in, Goa is well
on the way to becoming one, too.  In fact, some
areas of Goa are already there.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Opinion/Jug_Suraiya_Town_and_shitty/articleshow/2477494.cms


Regards,


r



[Goanet] The Konkans

2008-06-12 Thread edward desilva
Hi All,
The above named book has been authored by Tony D'Souza, published by Portobelo 
today.
What does it contain?
1. St Xavier ordered the Goa inquisition and today is regarded as one of the 
most important RC saints.
2. Savage conversion program including rubbing raw pork to render them 
'untouchables' and encourage them to convert.
The Author is a product of Konkan Father and American mother.
Konkan father who dreamt of the West and an American mother who dreamt of India.
These are just couple of extracts.
ED.
nbsp;


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Re: [Goanet] The International Goan Convention July 2008 - Brahmin Issues

2008-06-12 Thread Mario Goveia
 Mario observes:

 Rui,

 Just to keep it simple, what the Brahmins are guilty
 of is the assumption of superiority and privilege
 because of their accident of birth, not by their
 personal character and achievements.  This, in a
 changed world, which now frowns on privilege and
 birthright and blatant discrimination against one's
 fellow-man.  That's all.

Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:16:59 +0100
From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

One does not have to be a Brahmin to espouse the
qualities you have mentioned; you do it day in day
out, you have acknowledged that there is no one
superior to you after, your diligent checking of
relevant posts.

Go tell it to the Peasants!

Mario responds:

Gabe,

Buried somewhere in your choleric comments is proof of
what I have been advocating.  You have made my point
better than I ever could, for which I must thank
you:-))

What I have repeatedly opposed is superiority and
discrimination based on one's caste as opposed to
one's character and achievements.

For example, none of the medical doctors and Ph.D's
whose stellar achievements and contributions to the
human condition we have discussed here recently was
praised based on their caste.

Neither you, nor anyone else on Goanet, has any idea
what the supposed caste was of my ancestors, or even
if they claimed to have a so-called caste.  Believe
me, no one brings up this abomination to my face a
second time if they have had the misfortune to bring
it up a first time.

Any superiority that I may display at any given time
in the eyes of a reader of Goanet would be based on my
facts and personal opinions, which others are free to
agree or disagree with.  It is not based on my caste.

 





[Goanet] EURO 2008 DRAW; for charity.

2008-06-12 Thread Gabe Menezes
1 Spain Aidan Pinto
2 France Magdi Zakher
3 Greece Mervyn Pinto
4 Portugal Chris Vaz
5 Croatia Chris Vaz
6 Switzerland Jose Rodrigues
7 Holland Paulo Colaco Dias
8 Austria Ian Ashwell
9 Italy Chris Vaz
10 Russia Milan Kojnok
11 Turkey Conrad Rodericks
12 Sweden Chris Vaz
13 Romania Lily Menezes
14 Poland Liam Pinto
15 Germany Gabe Menezes
16 Czech Republic Chris Vaz

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England


Re: [Goanet] Stability

2008-06-12 Thread J. Colaco jc
Tony Correia-Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

CURE WORSE THAN DISEASE!
Veteran Congress leader Ram Niwas Mirdha is reported to have suggested
doubling of the strength of the Goa Assembly from 40 to 80 members as
means of ensuring stability and discouraging defection! The same
objective could be achieved equally effectively and more economically
by reducing the number of ministers by half, from the present 14 to 7!


jc's response:

Ah Tonybab!

It would be even more economical if there was only One Minister !

No No Not Salazar

Though a question has to be asked:

Isn't the 1961 CURE BETTER THAN the then DISEASE?

jc
PS: Careful of Allegedly Promising Remedies. They all have side-effects.


Re: [Goanet] Hotel Inquiry ......

2008-06-12 Thread Viviana

Goanetters -

I apologize for accidentally approving the SPAM from Henry Bori from 
Nigeria!


Viviana
SF CA



[Goanet] Photos of Porvorim disaster (and the PhDs)

2008-06-12 Thread edward desilva
Who in their right mind would want to do PhD when they cannbsp;get a job?
Santosh said to my above statement:
1. Those who seek jobs that require a PhD degree as a minimum qualification.
2. Those who enjoy living a life making original contributions to the 
advancement of knowledge.
3. Those who enjoy educating future generation of job seekers who seek jobs 
that require at a minimum a college degree in many countries of the world.
Cheers,Santosh
_
Hi Santosh,
That may be so, to justify your argument.
nbsp;
I classify them as lazy bums doing NO productive work.
Therefore PhD is a walk in the park.
nbsp;
Results of PhD?
No dirty hands like Engineers, No responsibilities lake an MBBS would have etc.
Only when they realise that PhD has been a waste of time do they go and do 
field work which they would have and should have done in the first place, thus 
contributing productive work to mankind from an early stage.
nbsp;
1.Who looks for PhD as a employee, those with PhD so that they can mix like 
with like (I scratch your back you scratch mine).
2. What is 'original contribution' attributed to PhD? NONE.
As Sir Isac Newton had said, I have gained knowledge because I stood on the 
shoulders of giants (great men). ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTION IS DONE BY SCIENTISTS. 
Original contributors are people with practical abilities and 
instinct,nbsp;not PhD.PhD people are copy cats.
3. Refer to reply to No. 1. (Learning is not necessarily - knowledge. One can 
learn to be a PhD and still have no knowledge of ones surroundings, because it 
was not in his PhD syllabus).
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[Goanet] Phds are time wasters?

2008-06-12 Thread edward desilva
nbsp;
Samir Kelekar said:
In fact, google and yahoo were founded by Stanford PhD students. If Sergie Bin, 
and Larry Page had listened to Edward and taken up jobs instead
of going for a PhD (and yeah, they were not getting any jobs :-)) we
wouldnt have had a google now.

That is exactly what I was saying.
Microsoft people had no degrees, they started it as a hobby, to pass their time.
Google people did the same, No PhD was needed for what they did - COMPRONDE?.
What they stUmbled upon was not PhD - BUT LADY LUCK.
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[Goanet] Talking Photos: Bambolim Hill Cutting

2008-06-12 Thread JoeGoaUk
Talking Photos: Bambolim Hill Cutting

View from Goa University-GMC Road
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2573050811/sizes/l/

close-up
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2573050439/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2573050161/sizes/l/


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[Goanet] Stop the 2 C's NOW!

2008-06-12 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
 

My Response: Thanks Marshall.. though you woke up rather late. You have
proved yourself to be a great Economist. You deserve highest Civilian Award.
Hope you replace either PM or FM of India for they are not worth calling
economists. Aam Admi will be happy to have you in either of these two places
as long as overall price rise, not just Oil, is under control 

 

Above reply is to Marshall who wrote: It appears that Dr Barad has a very
poor understanding of economics. The price of oil has gone up from $30 per
barrel in 2004 to $139 per barrel. India imports nearly 85% of its oil
requirement. The consumption of oil in India has gone up by nearly 30%
during this period. As a simple student of economics will tell you someone
has to bear this rising cost. The government has been postponing a price
rise to avoid public wrath and Inflation. In the meanwhile the PSU oil
distributing companies have been bleeding. Therefore, a price rise, though
unpleasant and undesirable has been long overdue.

 

It would have been a positive development had Dr Barad given his suggestions
for avoiding the price rise instead of making sarcastic comments. Or maybe
as a BJP supporter, he feels that vehicles can run on cow's urine as
propagated by the BJP Uttranchal govt. which is busy selling bottled cow's
urine for medical purposes.

 

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad

 



Re: [Goanet] The International Goan Convention July 2008 - Brahmin Issues

2008-06-12 Thread Gabe Menezes
2008/6/12 Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Mario observes:


 What I have repeatedly opposed is superiority and
 discrimination based on one's caste as opposed to
 one's character and achievements.

RESPONSE: Yes Sir, we are to believe you have achived, so you can
proclaim to all your adversaries, 'talking down' to them and very
patronizingly at that!

I am amazed that the only one who is having a tête–à–tête with you is
our Bai Selma.

This is my last and final response to any of your posts, goodbye, I
would appreciate it, if you do not pick on my posts, in
reciprocity...this is what you had done in the past when you had
Mervyn's and my posts desigated to your bin. Please kindly revert to
your former state of mind.

mmm...let's see how many people respond to you!
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London, England


[Goanet] Goa news for June 13, 2008

2008-06-12 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Karnataka upsets Goa, in semifinals - Hindu
[Jun 10, 2008]  SRINAGAR: Riding on the exceptional skills of
Xavier Vijay Kumar, Karnataka made the semifinals of the Santosh
Trophy, upsetting six-time champion Goa at ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2008/06/11/stories/2008061151692100.htmcid=1221204233ei=gbFRSLWpMqHqgwObxbTyAwusg=AFQjCNEjP2KVcwbR6ZDyS1t0BAU3VUoiQg

*** India Weather Report-Jun 12 - Reuters India
[12 hours ago]  Under its influence fairly widespread rainfall
activity with isolated heavy to very heavy falls is likely over
Konkan Goa and Coastal Karnataka during ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://in.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idINBNG3652820080612cid=1221557396ei=gbFRSLWpMqHqgwObxbTyAwusg=AFQjCNGXKjFFgjYi2TMGOJnecW08joEUCQ

*** Nayak appointed Goa Board chairman - Navhind Times
[2 hours ago]  ... an order appointing the director of higher
education, Mr Bhaskar Nayak as the chairman of the Goa Board of
Secondary and Higher Secondary Education. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=06139cid=1221896938ei=gbFRSLWpMqHqgwObxbTyAwusg=AFQjCNEA_9xfilg-aDVQo29OT1KBvKn1Zw

*** Budget airline cancels its operations to Goa - GulfNews
[2 hours ago]  By Sunita Menon, Staff Reporter Dubai: Air India
Express, a budget airline from India, has decided to cancel its
operations to west Indian state of Goa just ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Aviation/10220762.htmlcid=1221916548ei=gbFRSLWpMqHqgwObxbTyAwusg=AFQjCNEefMYZDxAFexU5ok-Q6NC_ae5ByA

*** Goa Orders Stranded Transhipper \'Andheri Nagri\' Seizure -
Daijiworld.com
[19 hours ago]  Panaji, Jun 12: The ports administration
ministry on Wednesday ordered the Captain of Ports to seize
forthwith transhipper Andheri Nagri, which has been off ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=47587n_tit=Goa+Orders+Stranded+Transhipper+'Andheri+Nagri'+Seizure+cid=0ei=gbFRSLWpMqHqgwObxbTyAwusg=AFQjCNFJYGErZiZR6007JX7ToJscw7NC4g

*** Goa to have a film institute - Navhind Times
[Jun 11, 2008]  The noted Goan film-maker, Dharmanand Vernekar,
who is a member of the committee told #152;The Navhind Times
that the government should entirely sponsor at ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=06128cid=0ei=gbFRSLWpMqHqgwObxbTyAwusg=AFQjCNH0wSuVQs2V1mWsdHTvHO8cutpB4g

*** Desperate acts by Goa\'s HIV ve - Times of India
[Jun 10, 2008]  Mahesh Govekar of Zindagi, an NGO which runs a
drop-in centre for HIV/AIDS patients in South Goa, said, Many
HIV persons are desperate to get financial ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Desperate_acts_by_Goas_HIVve/articleshow/3118695.cmscid=0ei=gbFRSLWpMqHqgwObxbTyAwusg=AFQjCNGNV3cRyAGrisqE1EcxgmNGk15EMw

*** Budweiser deal may fizz up InBev\'s India play - Economic
Times
[4 hours ago]  The JV faced further delay as quality concerns
rocked its initial bottling plans in Goa. In between,
Anheuser-Busch swooped down quietly to acquire 50% ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Cons_Products/Budweiser_deal_may_fizz_up_InBevs_India_play/articleshow/3124515.cmscid=1221795341ei=gbFRSLWpMqHqgwObxbTyAwusg=AFQjCNFyUaDo4ceglEGdnT-quMlwewOGGw

*** Goan identity erodes with onslaught of migrants - Merinews
[11 hours ago]  The Goan identity will fade away and they will
be left repenting, for having flirted with danger and damaged
their birthplace. It's time Goans wake up and ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=135616cid=0ei=gbFRSLWpMqHqgwObxbTyAwusg=AFQjCNEiptP3e3MHFoK6lQCrrSLnJ65VUQ

*** Yaakov Engel, Hezi Hermoni in Goa housing projects - Globes
[6 hours ago]  Sources inform ''Globes'' that Yaakov Engel and
Hezi Hermoni have purchased land for the building of three
residentialprojects in the Indian state of Goa. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/DocView.asp?did=1000351027fid=1725cid=0ei=gbFRSLWpMqHqgwObxbTyAwusg=AFQjCNGMEJLWlr2L3JHLd_RopR5x8u5XSg


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet] DUBAI: Budget airline cancels its operations to Goa

2008-06-12 Thread Goanet News Service

Budget airline cancels its operations to Goa
By Sunita Menon, Staff Reporter
Published: June 13, 2008, 00:03


Dubai:  Air India Express, a budget airline from India, has decided to 
cancel its operations to west Indian state of Goa just a week after it 
opened its seat bookings much to the annoyance of the travellers who bought 
a ticket.


More than 500,000 Goans live in the UAE.

Jayshree Ramchandran, a senior official of the Air India Express based in 
the UAE, said those who have booked their tickets will either get full 
refund or will be provided with alternative arrangements.


Those who had purchased their tickets from us are not that large in 
numbers. We are right now working out options so that they do not waste even 
a single day and are able to travel to Goa, said Ramchandran.


The budget airline was scheduled to operate its flights to Goa from June 18 
thrice a week.



http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Aviation/10220762.html


Emirates said yesterday it will offer 18 additional flights to India per 
week from July 1.
The Dubai-based airline will step up its frequencies to New Delhi, Bangalore 
and Hyderabad, progressing its Indian footprint to 132 flights per week - 
the highest ever frequency for an international carrier in the Indian 
skies


http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Aviation/10220638.html



[Goanet] Researching the Goan Mhar

2008-06-12 Thread Carvalho


For many Goans, even today, a trip to Church is followed by a trip to the Mhar. 
They see no dichotomy in this act whatsoever. Since Goan Catholics are relative 
new converts to Christianity, I am assuming this shamanistic element to our 
spirituality is derived from earlier rituals. If anyone has insights into this 
aspect, please do share. Does Hinduism have any shamanistic rituals and do 
Hindu Goans visit Mhars as well?

many thanks,
Selma


  


Re: [Goanet] Photos of Porvorim disaster (and the PhDs)

2008-06-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 6/12/08, edward desilva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTION IS DONE BY SCIENTISTS. Original
 contributors are people with practical abilities and
 instinct,nbsp;not PhD.PhD people are copy cats.


What the above post says regarding the Ph.D. degree is quite obviously utter 
nonsense. The poster has not understood what was written in the post to which 
he is responding. The poster clearly does not appreciate why some of the most 
capable students have opted to seek admission into Ph.D. programs in the 
world's top universities, as well as India's premier institutions such as the 
Indian Institute of Science, Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, Indian 
Statistical Institute, and Tata Institute of Social Sciences. 

At the risk of insulting the intelligence of most Goanetters who know better, 
to become a fully qualified scientist in any field today one has to obtain a 
Ph.D. or equivalent degree. One cannot become a college or university professor 
in most countries without obtaining a Ph.D. or equivalent degree. Many 
present-day professions require a Ph.D. degree e.g. Clinical Psychology, 
Molecular Genetics and Neuropsychology.

One cannot get a Ph.D. degree from any reputed university by copying. 
Plagiarism is a punishable offense whether done in the course of obtaining an 
undergraduate college degree such as a B.A., a professional degree such as an 
M.B.B.S. or a doctoral degree such as a Ph.D.

Cheers,

Santosh


[Goanet] LIMERICK FOR THE DAY 129 - A SUGGESTION FOR TORONTO GOAN CONVENTION

2008-06-12 Thread Shanti Dhoot
A SUGGESTION FOR TORONTO GOAN CONVENTION

Scholarships like these are indeed a great boon,

For Goans that are not born with a silver spoon

In their mouths, but still have the brains

And the fire and determination in their veins,

To get ahead, and reach for the stars and the moon.


For well-to-do Goans abroad it should be an obligation

To assist voluntarily and join in the speedy creation

Of several more such scholarships,

That will help the poor eclipse

Their difficulties, and contribute to their educational formation.


Such scholarships need not necessarily be

Only for studies abroad, but also guarantee

Goan youth the possibility of pursuing their studies

Elsewhere in India, as do their better-off buddies,

And thus from their bondage of backwardness, free.


This is an idea for this Goan convention in Toronto.

If it could set up one such scholarship or maybe more,

That would be visionary and prudent

In aiding some disadvantaged student,

To continue his university education, and also their genuine concern for
Goans visibly show.


Scholarships like these would indeed be a great concept,

That we should actively foster, and not just in principle accept.

Fervently would our youth bless and applaud

Those well-to-do Goans that are living abroad,

Who would set up such scholarships for those intellectually adept.


-  Shanti Dhoot

RE:

From GoanvoiceUK [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

date Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:03 AM**

**subject GoanvoiceUK Newsletter Issue 2008-24. June.12, 2008**

*British Council seeks applications for De Souza Trust Scholarships*
6 Jun: Navhind Times. The British Council has sought applications for the De
Souza Trust Goa Scholarships 2008, from Goan students desiring to undertake
courses of up to one year duration in UK. The closing date for applications
is June 30, 2008. The applicant should be an Indian national, domiciled and
resident of Goa, or born of Goan parents… a total of 19 Goan students have
availed of the scholarships provided by the Trust in the last 10 years. For
text of article, 321 words, click here.
http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=060636
For application details click
here.http://www.britishcouncil.org/india-scholarship-de-souza-trust-goa-scholarship.htm


[Goanet] Not all peaceful in GOA

2008-06-12 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad

This posting is in reply to Message No 1, dated Wed, 11 June 2008.

Let me first take other side of the main topic, for it is stretched far too
beyond with heavy flavors by the self-styled spokesman. 

1. Pravin Writes: Mr Barad is saying that - I shall hit you, but you have no
right to hit back. 

My response: Check all my mails posted to Goanet on above subject including
any other subject(s) on which I have responded / posted. I have never ever
used this line anywhere in my posting. I wonder from where Pravin got this
line. And why Pravin should tag his verbalize line to my name? 

2. Pravin links me saying - This malacious man is on the payroll of the
Mining Lobby - This would-be-candidate wants to enhance his value with the
mining lobby. 

My response: Check who is saying this? Both these versions are tossed /
coined by Pravin himself as in (1) above. Both these imaginations of Pravin
are not at all applicable to me till date.I don't no whether these two
tossed versions are applicable to Pravin or not! 

3. As far as Rajan Parrikar is concerned I believe Rajan is a sharp shooter.
Realizing the Pun used by me in my posting on above subject Rajan did not
react.

Not realizing the Pun used, Pravin took up for Rajan as if he is also a
Spokesman for Rajan Parrikar saying - sexist statements from a perverted
mind. Such extempore statements like Sexist statement and perverted mind is
not expected from any spokesman.  

No doubt Pravin is free to act as freelance Spokesman for anyone but
definitely not for me and I don't think smart Rajan will require either. 

Goanetters can verify all these points by browsing archives of Goanet. 

Best regards to Pravin for continuing to hold Mirror in hand,
 

Dr. U. G. Barad




[Goanet] Unauthorised meet okayed land

2008-06-12 Thread Goanet News Service

Unauthorised meet okayed land
13 Jun 2008, 0243 hrs IST, Preetu Nair,TNN


PANAJI: Not only did the Goa Industrial Development Corporation act in haste 
to allot plots to the K Raheja Corp Pvt Ltd for an SEZ, but they increased 
the floor area ratio (FAR) on par with the IT habitat at Dona Paula and even 
sacrificed plans of setting up a government SEZ to allot 300 acres to 
Meditab Specialities Pvt Ltd. In addition, though the still 'under 
formation' Peninsula Research  Development Centre, Sancoale, had applied 
for Export Processing Zone status, SEZ status was conferred. The reason: the 
'government feels it could be an SEZ'.


The list of irregularities goes on. Documents acquired by anti-SEZ activists 
under RTI reveal that allotment of land to Raheja's was done at the GIDC 
board meeting on April 19, 2006, attended by only four members- GIDC 
chairman Chandrakant Kavlekar, MLA Aleixo Sequeira, Goa Chamber of Commerce 
and Industry president Nitin Kunkolienkar and Managing director A V Palekar. 
Other board members, including the director of industries were absent.


A possible explanation for their absence is that they received the notice of 
the meeting at the time when the meeting was already in progress. Three 
board members - secretary industries, director industries and chief 
electrical engineer-acknowledged receipt of the notice with signatures on 
April 19, 2006 at around 5 pm, an hour after the scheduled start of the 
meeting.


Going by the industries and labour department regulations this meeting 
should not have taken place as there was no quorum. The regulations state: 
'four members present will form a quorum provided that at least one of the 
members nominated under section 4 (1) (d) (in this case industries director) 
of the Goa, Daman and Diu Industrial Development Act, 1965, other than the 
chairman is present'.



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Unauthorised_meet_okayed_land/articleshow/3124897.cms 



Re: [Goanet] FOOTLOOSE: Derek Almeida's The Bomb Within (Gomantak Times/Weekender)

2008-06-12 Thread Joao Paulo Cota
Derek, please try to write something smaller and to the point. Good theme, 
but far too many words...


JP


FOOTLOOSE / Derek Almeida

-
The bomb within

Gomantak Times, June 1, 2008

IT WAS ON Thursday that members of the Goa Bombard Abhiyan
met in a secluded room in Caranzalem to bomb the interim
report on the Regional Plan and declare war on the Task
Force. 




Re: [Goanet] FOOTLOOSE: Derek Almeida's The Bomb Within (GomantakTimes/Weekender)

2008-06-12 Thread AF
I say this was an episode of an esteemed Cabinet meeting, in secret no 
doubt. Names have been changed to protect the guilty! 



Re: [Goanet] the return of the SEZs

2008-06-12 Thread John Gomes
It was expected that THE EMPIRE will strike back.They will try the Courts, 
The Centre, and every means fair or foul.They will wine and dine, bribe and 
cajole , use the GCCI, CII, Media, power and pelf, and WE THE PEOPLE will 
have to stay together, back each other, stand firm, SACRIFICE, have moral 
courage, so they can recognise that we are a Democracy, not a Banana 
Republic. So far The Empire made the rules, unchallenged and yes Industry 
will suffer.But that is nothing compared  to how  Goa is being raped, the 
Aam Admi is suffering and will continue to be marginalised so he will have 
to survive in the concrete jungle,where his soul will finally be killed. 
Notice this policy of subsidised vegetables, buying from outside,so whats 
left of our local vegetables is priced out. The  policy should be-Teach  and 
help the person to fish, instead of giving him subsidised fish. Of course 
the fish in the rivers and sea must be protected first and the person find 
it easy to organise his fishing.and Goans will then be able to 
afford  and enjoy their vegetables fish curry and rice, with green nature 
still  around





[Goanet] Views

2008-06-12 Thread jane gillian rodrigues

Dear Cedrico,

Great e-mail with good suggestions.

Please do start the debates on the topics you have suggested, as per your 
e-mail, and I am sure all goanetters will give their views:-


(1) Communialisation of Goa
(2) Saffronisation of Goa
(3) Saffronisation of the Goa Police
(4) Backstabbing of Goa
(5) CM through the backdoor in Goa
(6) Sex scandal at Miramar
(7) Instigating riots in Goa
(8) Turning Goa into Gujarat
(9) Toppling games of Goa.

Regards,

== 1
From: cedrico dacosta

Communialisation of Goa

At Goanet we have heard a lot on the topics i have
listed below:

(1) Rape of Goa
(2) Murder of Goa
(3) Molestation of Goa
(4)Betrayal of Goa
(5) Selling of Goa
(6) Photography of Goa 



Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Editor

2008-06-12 Thread mario rodrigues
frankly speaking the destructors of goa , including those in power who are 
with these destructors have actually
taken advantage of the goodness/ soft side/love thy neighbours attitude  of 
Goan people so far and for long...not realising
that if TRUE  GOAN wakes up these destructors will loose their sleep 
forever.

So, Builders and co-partners incl. our very own goan judas'es
- stay away don't wake us from the wrong side of the beach bed
- let us enjoy
- come, join us, enjoy, go
-  do not dare to destroy GOA
- look somewhere else please...

Mario A 



[Goanet] SEZ = Special Excavation Zone

2008-06-12 Thread W.F.
ANTHONY (NRI Goan) wrote: 


SEZ
Special Exit Zone
(Majority of Non-Goans will be Employers and Employees. 
Thus making the Exit of Goans from this Area).
Also you can Say: Special Excavation Zone 
(Digging Goans out from this Area).





VIVA GOA


Re: [Goanet] COUNTERPOINT: Aam aadmi chief minister has come to stay (Shanti Maria Fonseca, in Gomantak Times)

2008-06-12 Thread prakashkamat1

Shantibai,

If you are a firm believer in democracy, have firm and unflinching faith in 
people...if you have lost faith in people, nothing can save your 
democracy. As for 'doctor', 'architect', 'designer'etc. etc., they are 
igniting the spark in the people..because they believe in the people's 
power.. and have rightlyrealised that the people have lost the spark for 
different reasons... which U have best described in your whole article.


Only positive faith in people can save Goa and the country from the present 
state. Hope an empowered woman like you will join the movement of igniting 
spark among masses to make them people.


-regrds,
prakash kamat

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