[Goanet-News] Goa news for July 19, 2008
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Bollywood\'s love affair with Goa - Oneindia [Jul 16, 2008] But when anyone thinks of Goa, the first saying that comes to mind is¦actually nothing! One does not waste time in thinking of sayings and slogans. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://entertainment.oneindia.in/bollywood/features/2008/bollywood-love-goa-160708.htmlcid=1228030109ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNGpcWH7k2WjYlfukb6Q3GXBjRQlrg *** The Knowledge Goose - Navhind Times [2 hours ago] This is the â#130;¬Ëknowledge centuryâ#130;¬#132;¢ and Goa does not have any pool of highly educated and vocationally qualified people to create a sustained cadre of ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=07194cid=1228362443ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNF_y_UCL_KVpqRQKXXAKK4pgoHotg *** Threat to expat homes in Goa - BBC News [Jul 17, 2008] Attracted by the fine weather, beautiful coastline, friendly locals and favourable exchange rate, hundreds of British people who have visited Goa on holiday ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7507766.stmcid=0ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNGf0DwIT6_m5PNnKZCq536U-F6qzw *** UK-based trust to sponsor beautification of Goa\'s fort - Economic Times [Jul 15, 2008] 16 Jul, 2008, 1218 hrs IST, PTI PANAJI: Rising from the ruins, Goa's one of the oldest fort is all set to become the tourist attraction in another ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Services/UK-based_trust_to_sponsor_beautification_of_Goas_fort/articleshow/3240245.cmscid=1228022632ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNGwGnaVtqI-TAhbyBbgZ9p_sea8JA *** Panel for knowledge SEZs in Goa - Navhind Times [Jul 17, 2008] by RAMNATH N PAI RAIKAR PANAJI #148; The opposition to industrial special economic zones in Goa may have reached the crescendo, however a sub-committee on ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=071837cid=0ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNG-eQp5fhyGsGc-UY8b1b00OfJndg *** Is the central university status for Goa University justified? - Times of India [Jul 16, 2008] Goa University has been listed as one of the varsities that will be accorded central university status. The university, that came into existence in 1986 is ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://o3.indiatimes.com/mytimes/archive/2008/07/17/4930851.aspxcid=0ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNGSbdc4qE5liWjQb8goLCX5kgdfAQ *** British Life in Goa India Threatened by Clampdowns - GlobalVisas [8 hours ago] The beauty of Goa in India has enticed holidaymakers from Britain and around the world, so much so that some have even decided to start a home there. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.globalvisas.com/news/british_life_in_goa_india_threatened_by_clampdowns314.htmlcid=0ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNH4unvVSONl85ooZmMbYgfRTXZWTg *** Keeping Fit During Your Vacations in Goa - American Chronicle [9 hours ago] Goa is not only a place to laze around and feast on sumptuous Goan cuisine. It is also a wonderful opportunity to give your body a break from the everyday ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/68829cid=0ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNHEILqcyN6V--lURvbQjG_6F9T-eA *** Gujaratis in Goa prefer to set up their own business - Navhind Times [2 hours ago] By GLENN COSTA PANAJI #148; The people from Gujarat have been in the state for the last 50 years and have assimilated into the fabric of Goan society seamlessly ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=071976cid=0ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNEzH61eua9Ak8qGc6Otmt2jd8bbFA *** Alarmed Centre rushes malaria experts to Goa - Times of India [20 hours ago] The team from the National Institute of Malaria Research, an autonomous organisation under the Indian Council of Medical Research, met doctors at Goa ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Alarmed_Centre_rushes_malaria_experts_to_Goa/articleshow/3247933.cmscid=0ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNHgUl9jU-dggLUHoK9nEatulMFzuA Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] More duty on iron ore export
More duty on iron ore export Priyadarshi Siddhanta Posted online: Friday, July 18, 2008 at 0059 hrs Print Email Point of Policy Secretaries' panel favours minimum export price to an outright ban New Delhi, July 17: The high-powered Committee of Secretaries (CoS) chaired by cabinet secretary KM Chandrasekhar that met recently has preferred an increase in export duty on pig iron, sponge iron and semi-finished steel products to 20 per cent besides considering a minimum export price (MEP) for these items instead of banning their overseas sale. It has also favoured a hike in export duty on iron ore to 20 per cent from 15 per cent now. Related Stories Steel wrangle: Tata says such low prices not sustainable, cuts not reaching downNMDC's steel plant in jeopardyNo consensus on iron ore, steel pricesConcerned at Posco delay, PMO calls Orissa officials Ad Links Steel Plants Coal in India Buy Iron Ore After deliberating extensively on steel ministry's proposal that recommended a ban on exports of pig iron, sponge iron and semis, the CoS felt a ban would not be sustainable, and it would give unintended wrong signals to the trade. A ban may also render many jobless as such units may be forced to close down. The CoS has asked the revenue department to coordinate with the departments of commerce, industry, mines and steel and work out a package for steel products. No proposal for banning export of flat products was considered by the CoS, highly-placed sources told The Indian Express. In the meeting, the Steel Ministry said that pig iron, sponge iron and semis were essential inputs for making steel. While total exports of steel during April-June this year dipped 31 per cent to 0.9 million tonne, it pointed out that exports of semis had surged and that of sponge iron, which was hardly sold overseas earlier, had also begun. Noting that exports of these products will be viable even at higher rates of duty, it recommended a ban on export of these products to increase their domestic availability. On the contentious issue of iron ore exports, the steel ministry said that except for state-owned National Mineral Development Corporation, other producers increased the price of lumps by Rs 500 to Rs 1,000 a tonne after the duty on exports were imposed. In view of high demand from steel producers and sponge iron producers for good quality ore (lumps), there was a need to further disincentivise exports by banning them and enhancing availability by 7.4 million tonnes, albeit it would entail a revenue loss of about Rs 830 crore, it said. The Ministry, however, proposed another option of hiking the export duty to 20 per cent from 15 per cent that will help the government rake in additional revenues of Rs 2,583 crore, the ministry said, adding the mines ministry should be taken on board while deciding on the issue. The steel ministry is also not at loggerheads with the industry on the issue of prices as is being made out in the media. This is because domestic steel utilities have so far addressed the government's concern on inflation by exercising a self-declared moratorium on prices and hold on to the new price line for three months ending this month. But the ministry has asked the industry to continue to share the government's concern. The industry representatives informally said yesterday at a steel conclave that domestic prices are unlikely to rise with global steel prices gradually stabilising. However, any move to hike prices of flat and long products could attract fiscal measures, government sources said. •CoS has increased export duty to 20 per cent •It has also approved a minimum export price as against a ban on export •Has asked revenue department to coordinate with commerce, industry, mines and steel departments on a package for steel products http://www.indianexpress.com/story/337007.html
[Goanet] Matka kingpin... and Goa
MUMBAI: If matka king Suresh Bhagat's son Hitesh is to be believed, five-star hotels in the city are the safest place to hide from the police. According to sources, Hitesh—who is under the scanner for being involved in Bhagat's murder—was very much in the city when the Mumbai and the Alibaug police were frenetically hunting for him at the houses of his relatives and friends. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai/Matka_kings_son_found_hiding_in_five-star_hotel/articleshow/3212588.cms Mumbai, July 8 Officers of the Crime Branch arrested Hitesh Bhagat, the son of 'matka king' Suresh Bhagat and Jaya Bhagat, on Tuesday from Goa where he had gone into hiding after the police started looking for him for his possible involvement in the conspiracy behind the murder of his father on June 13. Maria said Hitesh had fled to Goa on July 4 and had been staying at Hotel Sun N Sand in Panaji. We had received information that Hitesh was there. Our team went to Goa and arrested him and brought him back to Mumbai. We also recovered Rs 11 lakh from him, said Maria. On June 13, Bhagat and six others were murdered in an orchestrated accident on the Alibaug-Pen road near Shahabaz village. A truck had collided head-on with the Scorpio they were travelling in. Police investigations revealed that a 'supari' of Rs 45 lakh had been paid for the murder http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Matka-kings-murder-Cops-track-down-son-in-Goa-arrest-him/333124/ The state police were unaware of this operation and this capture has again exposed the state's vulnerability and the inability of the state police to keep a track on any wanted persons or notorious elements in the state, especially in view of the fact that the state has been on the terrorist radar for some time. Addressing the media at the police headquarters, the DGP denied any knowledge of the presence of the Mumbai police in the city and the subsequent arrest of the alleged killer and defended himself and his force by saying that normally the police from other states enter after informing them and seek permission before arresting any accused. According to reports Suresh Bhagat's son Hitesh was allegedly behind his father's murder and was hiding out for the past four days in the hotel. When DGP's attention was drawn to the fact that hoteliers do not maintain the details about person checking into their premises, he complained that people do not realise the gravity of problem. This follows the cracking of a murder of a minor girl who had been allegedly killed, chopped in pieces and buried in the state but the murder was cracked by the Kerala police who brought the accused to the state, exhumed the body and returned back. This has left the police open to allegations of non-cooperation from the local police with officials feigning ignorance about the said matter when questioned. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=070912
[Goanet] Here's to you Mr Hussein
Shoukat Hussein was an Indian Muslim who joined a rather prestigious trading house in Dubai, at about the same time I did. He, as Marketing Executive and me as HR Officer. The fraternity of Marketing and Human Resources was perhaps an incongruous one, but the company was undergoing rapid expansion and we were thrown together in a pokey office where we developed a bond that outlived our tenure with the Company. In the diaspora, one forms friendships across religion and ethnicity. He was a most affable person, with an infectious laugh that would sometimes be heard down the corridor all the way to the photocopying room. His ability to pun in the Queen’s English could possibly have given Bernard Shaw a run for his money. He was creative, eloquent, gracious and always polite to a fault. He was also ordinary. Together, we obsessed an laughed over the most mundane of things, his children, the rent of my studio flat, the CEO’s green coat and how to survive the ennui of corporate servitude. Whatever we may want to think of India’s Muslim, that they are ghetto-dwellers, pro-Pakistani sympathizers, militant extremist, religious fundamentalist, wife-beaters, indiscriminate breeding machines, there is a Shoukat Hussein that dwells amongst them. And I have to believe that there is a Shoukat Hussein who dwells within the most disenfranchised and alienated of them. Our obligation as Indian citizens is to help him emerge. India’s history will not be told in statistics and stereotypes. It will be the collective stories of individual beings who surmounted the odds of inequality. To the world we are doctors, call-center staff, IT technicians, construction workers, waiters, desi, paki, al ‘hindi, dot-heads. Over the course of the years I’ve heard all of these labels. Whatever stereotypes or pejoratives the world wishes to foist onto us, aleast we are all Indian to them. Isn’t it time, we were all Indian unto ourselves? selma
Re: [Goanet] WTSIC? : UTI Bank, Centurion Bank Samrat-Ashok-Vishant Cinem
2008/7/17 JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: WTSIC? : UTI Bank, Centurion Bank Samrat-Ashok-Vishant Cinema Remember UTI Bank? The same has now changed to just Axis Bank (not X or Y Axis) http://www.axisbank.com/ ** A friend of mine wanted some urgent cash, so I gave him a cheque for Rs.20,000 and told him to encash it at Centurion Bank (of Punjab) near Ashok/Samrat theatres. So he rushed on his bike to Panjim only to find there is no Centurion Bank. He phoned me to say he can't find the bank. The same evening I went there and I was confused too. All I could see HDFC bank in place of Centurion bank. RESPONSE: Aree, if you had read Fredericks piece here before you would not have been so confused. check this:- http://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#search/Centurion+bank+HDFC/11ac3299a24cdd0b -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
Re: [Goanet] Disadvantages of NOT using facts and rational logic
Mario Goveia wrote: Proust was right - which is why I wonder why you avoid reality with such a passion. Surely you don't know more about what the Viet Cong were experiencing than their own commander, Gen. Giap? Mario, Congratulations, even though belated, on the US military victory in Vietnam! Can you also pass on my regards to the Vietnamese commander who claims NOT to have tortured McCain at the Hanoi Hilton? Then you explained to Roland that this stuff was so easy for you, that all he needed to do is look at price charts in 2008 that vindicated your decision. Your secret is to work hard - which is good - then all this stuff becomes easy. I get it now. I hope Roland is getting this as well. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Here is the picture everyone gets, except one. http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2678373311/ Here is the second buy signal with the third one on its way :-) http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2679192182/ And if you cant see where the third signal is, give me a shout. I have lots of experience preaching to non-believers. It also places their assets under our physical control and sovereignty, but they are not worried because they plan to be good US corporate citizens. Those who are not get their assets frozen. Yep, this policy is copied from Comandante Castro or, may be, General Giap Mario responds: Consumer prices were 5% higher than a year ago and rose 1.1% on a monthly basis, according to the US Labor Department said. 1.1% inflation per month! Gosh, lets cut taxes and print more money... If the Federal Reserve tightens up the money supply in response, as it is likely to do, it will strengthen the dollar. I think I get your er, level of thinking. When inflation is high, the US raises interest rates and the dollar becomes stronger. Higher inflation = a stronger dollar. This would have worked but for one problem. US financial institutions are collapsing as people cannot pay their mortgage because of the interest rates. Tightening the money supply by raising US interest rates (further) will effectively complete the operation that Jesse Jackson wanted to do on Obama. Only this time it is George Bush in charge and he is going to make all those holding US dollars sing high notes. Mervyn3.0 The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is war: the second is inflation of the currency. Ernest Hemingway __ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] The Old Goans
2008/7/18 Augusto Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Cheers Dears By Augusto Pinto The Old Goans Dears, A couple of days ago I decided to visit Uncle. Uncle's actual name is Tiberiano Ceasar Austinho Nero Souza Nazareth, scion of one of the oldest and most noble families in Moira. Although his name has a Portuguese twang to it, Uncle is an out - and - out Anglophile [that means lover of the British, dears]. That's because he had worked in the British army where he learnt to love their ways. He preferred to be called Major Nazareth, but Uncle became his sobriquet and I was involved in bestowing it upon him. Along with some other kids, [this is a story of some 4 decades ago] QUESTION: I wonder if the Nazareth who was a barrister and one time Politician from Nairobi, Kenya was a member of this same family? Nazareth's father is mentioned in Ms Albuquerque's book on Kenya Goans, he is reported to have walked all the way from Mombasa to Nairobi and was a big strong man. He started several businesses and was one of the first Goans to have made it big and lost it all! His Grandson is a Maths genius, living in Seattle USA. See... http://www.santafe.edu/profiles/?pid=220 -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
[Goanet] Halfway point for the UPA
* This article is from the blog res gestae (www.rajivndesai.blogspot.com http://www.rajivndesai.blogspot.com/ ) * you can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, July 15, 2008 Halfway http://rajivndesai.blogspot.com/2008/07/halfway-point-for-upa.html Point for the UPA The Way Things Are Going... When the Congress Party came to power nearly three years ago, middle class hearts were gladdened. Having supported the Neanderthal Democratic Alliance led by the BJP, many were dismayed by the 1998 nuclear tests, following which India became a pariah of the international community. In 2004, the Congress-led UPA won a mandate. Tragically, the Congress think tank, which consisted largely of people who played the role of the palace guard for 10 Janpath, interpreted the result as a vote against the BJP's India Shining campaign. The Congress continues to believe that Indira Gandhi was their talisman with her garibi hatao and her 20-point program. They see in Sonia Gandhi glimpses of Indira, when really she represents a continuation of her husband Rajiv Gandhi's vision of ushering India into the 21st century. Many of us who worked closely with him remember when he met Jack Welch, the head of GE, who started the first BPO operation. The rest is history. Today, we are not just the world's back office; we are solving complex business problems on the basis of our information technology expertise. Yet the Congress rank-and-file believes that the socialist nostrum is the way forward. They now talk about inclusive growth. There can be no denying that the fruits of India's screaming economic success, led by the BPO industry, should also include the poor and that the government must play an active role in ensuring that they are equally distributed. But that's not why the BJP-led NDA coalition was defeated. The middle class that voted it into power in 1998 deserted them, frightened by the communal agenda and more so by their incompetence in governance. The BJP sees things in black-and-white: they propagate that the Congress is an anti-Hindu party and seek votes by raising the basest communal passions that were tweaked by the Partition. The Congress also takes a similar zero-sum view and pits the rich against the poor, stoking the fires of class conflict. It is unable to shake the Soviet mindset of state control over all aspects of human endeavor. Both parties tend to ignore the middle class. In the old days, the middle class was small and easily forgotten; today it is a substantial, creative force that chose to oust the communal die hards of the BJP. And this is the very group against which the Congress seems to have taken up cudgels, with its divisive agenda of class and caste differences. It has increased taxes, squeezed credit and supported irrational quotas based on caste. Neither party has taken into account the aspirations of this fastest growing segment of the population. There is something abroad in the world; it's called the India story. No political party seems to understand it. After Manmohan Singh, as finance minister, scrapped Soviet-style controls on private enterprise in 1991, the economy boomed. Unfortunately, the sacking of the Babri Mosque derailed the reforms the very next year. The economy began to drift and that saw the comprehensive defeat of the Congress in 1996 and the emergence of carpetbagger politicians, who slept in different political tents every night. In 1996-1997, there were two weak Congress-backed governments under whose dispensation the bureaucracy was able to stall any further reforms. In 1997, when it was clear that the Gujral-Deve Gowda regime had run it course, the bureaucracy unleashed a series of demand management measures including a rise in interest rates that reined in the growing economy. The recession that followed lasted until 2003. In the interim, BJP-led coalitions came to power but proved unequal to task of reigning in the demand managers. It resorted to ad hoc measures such as the poorly designed national highway program. In the event, the BJP-led NDA crashed to defeat in the 2004 election. For two years, the UPA government focused on setting things right. But the internal contradictions in the Congress and the nihilism of the Left saw its goodwill erode. The Congress is losing elections everywhere but its sycophantic leaders believe that Rahul Gandhi will deliver them from the morass of ignorance and intrigue that is sapping the party. Such complacency will cost them dearly. from daily news and analysis april 18 2007 Posted by Rajiv N Desai at http://rajivndesai.blogspot.com/2008/07/halfway-point-for-upa.html 12:26 AM 0 http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7537489380457243489postID=90827965 76290773189 comments http://www.blogger.com/email-post.g?blogID=7537489380457243489postID=90827 96576290773189 http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=7537489380457243489postID=908279 6576290773189 Labels: bjp
[Goanet] Res: Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 890
Paço Patriarcal / Bishop's House, Altinho Message: 7 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:24:03 + (GMT) From: JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Talking Photo: Can you identify this Palace? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Talking Photo: Can you identify this Palace? http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2677450097/sizes/l/ Sorry, no clues this time, as the question itself has the clue/ans.
[Goanet] MOU for Dabolim (Letter to the Editor)
Bottom Line is that 2 airports will not be commercially viable in Small Goa; even with an MOU. Just see examples of Bangalore Hyderabad; on what is happening with the Old Airports .Our CM is easily making promises of retaining Dabolim today with absurd statements i.e. let airlines decide where to land their aircraft. The fact is that He and his colleagues will reap huge monetary benefits from the proposed Mopa Airport Project/Related and will not be there in the future, to face the public; who will demand then as to why the promise of retaining Dabolim Forever was not kept. The Government of the future will wash it hands off saying that it MOPA was not its making. The time to act is now; Stop MOPA forever.. Arwin Mesquita,UAE. -- Please read my Blog: (1) http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ (2) http://arwinmesquita.wordpress.com/2008/06/ -- Please read my Blog: (1) http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ (2) http://arwinmesquita.wordpress.com/2008/06/ -- Please read my Blog: (1) http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ (2) http://arwinmesquita.wordpress.com/2008/06/
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photo: Can you identify this Palace?
Pathriachal Palace? AT Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:24:03 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Talking Photo: Can you identify this Palace? Talking Photo: Can you identify this Palace? http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2677450097/sizes/l/ Sorry, no clues this time, as the question itself has the clue/ans. Ok, ok, here u go.. Chief Minister Digu's residence in the vicinity. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa __ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE
[Goanet] Dabolim Airport will not be grounded, assures Kamat [Herald]
1.Chief Minister, Digambar Kamat has allayed apprehensions raised over the Dabolim airport following the nod given by the high-level committee for a new airport at Mopa and asserted that the Union government would soon tender bids for construction of a new terminal building at Dabolim on par with international standards. That's not all. Kamat said the Navy has already okayed 2.5 acres of land for expansion of Dabolim airport, adding that modalities are being worked out for the transfer of the land from the Navy to the Airport Authority of India. This has been hanging fire for a long time. It will have to be seen to be believed. 2.The stand of my government is very clear, that the Dabolim airport should be retained as an international airport even after Mopa becomes a reality, Kamat told Herald on Thursday. Kamat himself has said on national TV that Mopa would be international and Dabolim domestic. Herald said the same thing after the Interim Report of the Task Force on RP 2021. 3.He said under no circumstances will the government allow the closure of the Dabolim airport after the new airport at Mopa becomes a reality. In this connection, he pointed out that the high-level committee has inserted a host of conditions in its report recommending Mopa airport, including the condition that the Union cabinet will have to reverse its earlier decision on the closure of the Dabolim airport. The Centre was only politely asked by the high powered committee to review its Cabinet decision of March 2000. 4.Secondly, Kamat said the committee has made it amply clear that the expansion work on the Dabolim airport should be taken up and completed before the new airport comes into existence. In this context, he said Union Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel has issued instructions to the concerned department to float a tender for the construction of a new terminal building at Dabolim. No report to this effect in the media so far. 5.On the question of signing a memorandum of understanding (MoU) as demanded by Public Works Department Minister, Churchill Alemao and many other legislators, the Dabolim Airport will not be grounded, assures Kamat chief minister said Before the government goes for a mode to build the airport, whether on BOOT or otherwise, the government will sign a MoU with the party that Dabolim will continue forever. If the airport access continues to be a problem (as in Bangalore and Hyderabad) then the developers will nsist on a provision to close Dabolim when Mopa is ready. Otherwise non one will use Mopa and it will be a white elephant (as especially Bangalore would have been without it). If closure is not assured and access is a problem then Mopa cannot be an international airport but more likely a regional one albeit with future aspirations to be international. If access is also taken care of then Dabolim would be at risk of closure as airlines would switch over to Mopa. 6.Saying the government is committed to retain the Dabolim airport, Kamat said the Dabolim airport will be expanded at a cost of Rs 400 crore. Asked to comment on apprehensions that the Dabolim airport would be used only as a domestic airport after Mopa becomes a reality, thus affecting tourism in South Goa, Kamat said There is no question of Dabolim being made a domestic airport. It will continue to operate as an international airport. When there are two airports, let the airlines exercise the option where to land their aircraft. See point #2 above regarding domestic and point # 5 about airlines' options. Now Kamat is veering around to a split hub operation. This may not be tenable in this age of acute financial stringency of airlines. They would not be able to duplicate their internationl/domestic oeprations at two places a short distance away. Something would have to give. Kamat has to accept that Goa government would have to play a tricky regulatory role right from the word Go if Mopa and Dabolim are to co-exist for the long haul. It had better gear up for it right away. P.S. For starters it should depute a high level person (or two) to the Aviation Management program at IIM Ahmedabad Sept 21-27, 2008 (Rs 70K) to begin to imbibe the competences required.
Re: [Goanet] Call to Parents Students of Goa!
Dear Dr Barad For those like me, rather unfamiliar with the status of a Central university institution in India compared to what the university of Goa is at present, (and about which I am also unclear re its current status), it would be helpful to be informed about the pros and cons in any transition that may take place, why the change is proposed and by whom/which official body? Of interest too would be any official facts, about the recognition/standing that the University of Goa enjoys, nationally and internationally re its student product, research profile and any other features. Google is likely to have some such data but personal observations and reflections from those in Goa and close to the institution would particularly interest me. Kind regards Cornel DaCosta, London, UK. --- Dr. U. G. Barad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goa University SOLD OUT by handful people!!! Without any hesitation I would say Goa University which stands tall for past 22 years has been SOLD OUTRIGHT without any consultative process and without any discussion on its economic, social and cultural implications...
[Goanet] Update on the University of Goa Crisis
Dear all, As a concerned citizen of Goa and after having acknowledged the seriousness of this move by perhaps some vested interests to have our Goa University upgraded to the status of 'Central University', especially when this move comes without entertaining the say in the matter from concerned Goan public preferably through promoting public discussions to arrive at the advantages as well as the disadvantage of this move, I have taken the liberty to book the Menezes Braganza (Main) Hall for JULY 28, 2008 (MONDAY) from 5.00 p.m. to 7.00 p.m. in the name of the 'CITIZEN'S INITIATIVE' to debate this issue thoroughly and completely and then to pass a RESOLUTION in 'favour' or 'against' this move. [Democratic enough??? especially when the Goan public is accused of objecting to each and every move towards development??] The booking of the hall will be confirmed only on Monday, 21st. July, 2008 since the procedure requires a letter to be issued to the Member Secretary for the use of the hall. The Charges will be ( as confirmed) Rs. 1500/- without the public address system. The public address system has also been provisionally booked for the day subject to confirmation of the availability of the hall. Charges for the same are Rs. 1500/- for half day. ( Could be less if the proprietor feels that this is in the interest of Goa and Goans as told to me) Since this is going to be the 'CITIZEN'S (of Goa) INITIATIVE, the charges (including a desirable cup of tea) will be sought to be offset through public contributions ( dropping of a spare change/coins in the box) to give the impetus to the slogan that I prefer to go by SMALL/LITTLE MONEY FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE MAKES BETTER SENSE THAN A LOT OF MONEY FROM ONE PERSON This method of financing public endeavours cannot fail since a person is motivated - committed and becomes involved once he/she has contributed something towards the cause, with much positive results than otherwise. Academics and concerned citizens are requested to prepare themselves on the above topic to express themselves briefly and effectively so that every single person gets a chance to say how he/she is posted on the subject matter and to decide what course the RESOLUTION will take. [If pro or against] Note 1: This initiative is NOT repeat NOT promoted by Goa Su-Raj Party nor the Goa Environment Action Group to which yours sincerely belongs to. Note 2: This is further to the posts by Dr. U G Barad and Srinivas Kamat reposted on the various I-net forums. floriano for CI
[Goanet] Goans in Kenya
Goans in Kenya: An Endangered Species The topic of Goan emigration has held immense fascination for me. Not long ago, in distant Toronto, I encountered a sizable conglomeration of Goan settlers and was told the majority hailed from Kenya--that is from what had become a home away from home for the expatriates for the duration of a century! And so to this launching-pad I was drawn. To my good fortune, Placido P de Souza, former High Commissioner of India in Kenya, arranged for me to be a guest of Dr Fitzeval de Souza, who is a foremost advocate and business magnate of Nairobi. For my purpose, I could not have been better based. My gracious host was a storehouse of information not merely of Kenyan Goans but on a wide range of subjects pertaining to East Africa and elsewhere. Friendly and very popular, Fitz introduced me to men and women who mattered. Doubly locked gates of several homes--Goan and African--were therefore thrown open. Dr de Souza himself had actively participated in the struggle for Goa's freedom, later for African liberation as well; for ten years he had been an MLA, even Deputy Speaker of the House. By a stroke of luck my fellow guests at 48 Muthaigu Road--his lovely rambling retreat in a once top 'white' reserve--was none other than Ema Gama Pinto, widow of Pio Gama Pinto, Kenya's famous Goan fighter for Africa's independence. Imprisoned by the British government for several years, by an irony of fate in the post-liberation phase, he was deliberately assassinated for his outspokenness. There were other widows of eminent Goans. The European Sheila Murumbi was one. Her late husband Joe Zuzarte, another Goan fighter for African freedom, had later adopted his Masai mother's name Murumbi. He is remembered not only as Vice President of Kenya but also for arousing awareness for Africa's ancient cultural heritage. Yet another widow of a Goan freedom fighter was the gentle Monica Nazareth, whose late husband J M Nazareth, a legal luminary, was a vociferous supporter of the struggle. I met Cyrila Rodrigues, the epitome of elegance. Her late husband Jawaharlal Rodrigues, elder brother of our former Army Chief Gen Sunith Rodrigues, used to be a leading journalist of great repute. Goans had trickled into East Africa in the time of the Portuguese; but at the turn of the last century there was a great influx. As sailors, cooks, tailors, railway employees and clerks, Goans came during the construction of the Uganda Railway and stayed on as civil servants under the British administration. The glamour of white collar status deterred many from more mundane and lucrative careers as petty grocers and retailers and led to the establishment of Goan Institutes--more exclusive then British clubs. Caste reared its ugly head; other guilds and societies mushroomed in a climate of to each his own. All facilitated fellowship, recreation and sport. To provide for themselves religious solace, Goans literally built their own churches wherever they were. They also set up their own schools. After four years in the bush the young Goan civil servant would return home, marry a wife in Goa and bring her with him to stoically maintain his peculiar affinity to the Portuguese and his loyalty to the British. He could thus ensure he would eat food he was accustomed to at home and pay homage to the saint of his village whose feast day he could join in celebrating in the dark continent with the traditional ladainha, boiled grams and sorpotel. So it was a life of contentment and good cheer. The Goan particularly in the government treasury, was highly respectable and respected, both by his British masters and the African underdog. To the later, he was no exploiter as his fellow Asian tradesmen, who he kept at a distance. He did his job, a lord in his own fief and when he went home his neighbours envied his affluence and his capacity to recruit young men of the village to service abroad. But decades passed since Dr Rosendo Ribeiro flambouyantly rode his zebra steed to the Goan Gymkhana in Nairobi. In the fifties, Goan complacency suffered a rude shock. Came the cry of Kenya's freedom from white bondage and except for the handful already mentioned, the Goan stayed aloof. With independence the exodus began. Sceptical of the future status, Goans left for the security of the Commonwealth. Few, who opted for Kenyan citizenship, had to prove themselves. No longer could they be the mainstay of the new administration. In an amazingly short span, the African had come into his own--a man of no less intelligence than his peers; of physique and endurance far superior. Meeting the challenge with enduring Goan resilience, the achievements of Goan Kenyans has done them proud. Latent business acumen surfaced much to their advantage as became evident in their lifestyle and their ability to send their children for higher study in the West. In the better sectors of the city they owned spacious bungalows. Men like Horatio Gama Rose of Nairobi and
[Goanet] Goa University Going Central
Uday Barad flung this topic on Goanet without any preliminaries. Reminds me of those cavemen drawings where a man fancies a woman and instead of wooing her, just clubs her one on the head and drags her into a cave to do the dirty. Well Uday, most of the readers of Goanet reside outside of Goa and of them most do not keep in daily touch with what is happening in Goa. While I thank you for giving the odd information like: This will result in transferring assets of 4000 crore rupees to the Centre. This is being done to increase GU employees retirement ages by 5 years. There will be the expected bhaille staffing the faculty and administrative services at the cost of Goans. As a Goan outsider, here is what I think without having any more information at hand... If the standard of GU is anything like the Goa Medical College Hospital at Bambolim, then things could only get better. GU students will now get recognition for their studies when they apply for further education abroad. So also plum jobs in India or abroad. Ask any student from GU and on the other hand from say JNU (Jawaharlal Nehru University) a Central University in Delhi. The faculty of GU will now be infused with the best blood from all over the country. A good Goan University faculty member can get natural employment in GU or in any other Indian University. Does being a State University mean that below-standard Goan faculty should get refuge here? I wouldn't be worried about the 4K crore asset transfer to the Central Govt. The whole of Goa belongs to Delhi. Ask any Goa minister. What's wrong with GU employees getting a break on their retirement ages? People from outside the state are flooding into Goa. With GU becoming a central University at least more of the bhailles will be university grade rather than pissing on the Panjim streets grade. I could think of some more reasons but I shall leave you, Uday, to counter these natural thoughts that come into my mind. Regards, -- Roland Francis Toronto +1 (416) 453.3371
Re: [Goanet] Fwd: Goan Overseas Association (Toronto) sent you a message on Facebook...
Actually Kevin, its clear now. I missed out on reading the first three lines. It makes sense now. cheers On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Kevin Saldanha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please forward to your friends and family in the Greater Toronto Area. Kevin -- Forwarded message -- From: Facebook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:49 PM Subject: Goan Overseas Association (Toronto) sent you a message on Facebook... To: Kevin Saldanha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin D'Costa sent a message to the members of Goan Overseas Association (Toronto). Subject: Goan Identity Workshop Are you Goan or Indian? Is it Chapatti, Roti or Naan? Is knowing Goan culture really that important? How about having to learn the language or eat Goan food? Would your answers be similar to your parents? Disconnected! On Wednesday July 23rd, we are trying call on all 18 to 25 year olds together to tell us what you think. Realizing this is age when you are faced with certain challenges and opportunities, the 2008 International Goan Convention in coordination with the GOA, would like to host a private, facilitated gathering to try and understand your thoughts and ideas on Goan Identity. Most adults do not really know what you all think nor do they know what you go through, your everyday stresses and pressures, and what it is that interests you. Now for the first time, there is a chance for you to be in one room, with people who think similarly like you, where you can network and forge friendships with them, and most importantly its a chance to be heard. Although your comments will remain in confidence, to ensure its importance, an overview of your insight will be presented and available to adult attendees. So they too can understand and perhaps start adjusting their ways. The $50 cost to host this event is waived and a complimentary snack vouchers will be offered. It's a sweet deal, you come, you eat, you meet others and give them a piece of your mind - all for free. So decide if you want to reach out - July 23rd is the date! If you are at least willing to consider it, send me a quick 'yes' email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will provide further info. Anthony To reply to this message, follow the link below: http://www.facebook.com/n/?inbox/readmessage.phpt=1027924857768 ___ Want to control which emails you receive from Facebook? Go to: http://www.facebook.com/editaccount.php?notificationsmd=bXNnO2Zyb209NTA1NjE4MTc5O3Q9MTAyNzkyNDg1Nzc2ODt0bz03NjAzMDUxMzI= -- http://2008goanconvention.blogspot.com/ -- Explanation Destroys Art.
[Goanet] The Indian Diaspora in Africa
The Indian Diaspora in Africa I was born in East Africa and my family has a long history of migration-you can read more about this in my article African connection in The Global Indian (pdf). In fact, Indians have a history of migration that dates back three thousand years, initially as traders and later as sojourners. Reference to Indians in Africa goes back to the first century AD, arriving as traders rather than migrants or permanent settlers. The Indian diaspora was a 19th and 20th century development related to the impact of the British indentured labour scheme, which sought to replace slave labour with cheap and reliable labour for plantations, or the building of railways, for example in Uganda. Large scale migrations of Indians to Africa began with the construction of the great railway from Mombasa to Lake Victoria in Uganda in the late nineteenth century. Indians (especially Goans) were recruited to run the railways after they were built (and Goans came to dominate the colonial civil services). 15, 000 of the 16, 000 cooliesthat worked on the railroads were Indians, who were renowned for their work ethic and competitiveness (Sowell, 1996). One quarter of them returned either dead or disabled. You can read about my Mother's experiences in Tanzania in a new edited book by Susan Rodrigues called A Collection of Goan Voices: Stories by People of Goan descent which has just been published. As it is a no royalty option anyone can download the book for 'free' or order a copy from the website where you will be charged for the book and postage. Mum talks about her experience of the mutiny of soldiers of the Tanganyika Rifles in January 1964. According to Wikipedia: the Mutiny began in Colito barracks in Dar es Salaam, then spread to Kalewa barracks in Tabora with Nachingwea, a new barracks, following suit. The mutiny was over pay, promotions, the removal of British officers and Africanisation. Julius Nyerere conceded that the soldiers had genuine grievances and the demands presented a perfectly reasonable case. However, he could not tolerate a mutiny. The mutiny raised questions about the place of the military in the newly independent Tanganyika — a military under a foreign command and not integrated into the country's system. You can also read Justus Kizito Siboe Makokha's MA thesis, a pioneer study in Kenya, on the works of the most prolific contemporary Anglophone writer from East Africa, MG Vassanji, called The worlds in-between of an Asian African writer: A Postcolonial reading of selected novels of M.G. Vassanji completed in May 2006 in the Literature Department at Kenyatta University. Download as pdf (1MB)... http://www.wairua.com/ruth/culture/africa.html -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
[Goanet] Congress and false promises on Mopa Airport
Dear Deshprabhu, Just do not go about waging your tail just because u have been made the spokesman of the corrupt congress party. First of all, you could not retain your seat, just like out Sardinha, who too have been harping and posing with the Prime Minister of India in submitting the report on airport. We as christians have always rooted for congress. but ull seem to be taking every goan, for that matter, hindu or christian for granted. its not that we are saying that the BJP is any better. Just that a awakening feeling is gaining ground that we should stand up for our niz rights. We have always prided ourselves being Indians, with our own love for our image as Goans within India.This feeling should just grow and gain prominent ground, that next elections, we can fight off this current MLAs with new faces who will really care for Goa. First of all we do not require anymore airport for Goa. Just get our Dabolim airport upgraded with new terminal buildings, may be one more runway and force the navy out of Goa to Karwars Seabird project. We do not require a mammoth airport cause Goa can never have so much of air traffic no matter whatever proportions tourism might reach to. Yes Aviation services in Goa are pretty bad, but make the Dabolim airport operational round the clock and the whole episode will be solved once and for all.Right now, the govt cant even get our own land back from the navy for the extension of the present. Forget abt any improvement to the Goa Airport. But why would politicians listen, cause its their bread and butter to enjoy the crumbs that fall from the contracting parties on such mega projects. 10% on 2,400+ crores is lots of money. No two airports can function in such close proximity anywhere in the world. If a business city like Bangalore cant operate two airports, how Goa can? Airlines are not fools in operating seperate flights from two airports in one city. (Goa is more or less one). Most airlines expenditure is in take off, landing and parking charges. You cant expect them to run parallel networks in a place like Goa. Deshprabhu is talking abt 7,000 jobs but for whom. All Bhailles. Jobs in Goan Industrial Estates are advertised in other parts of India than Goa. We too, Goans, have wandered far and wide, in such of employment, but we dont go about puttting up shanty towns in other cities. Tell me of one instance where the govt has even touched the shanties that have been growing with ur govts blessings. Youll forget the NIZ GOYKAR issues but rant the AAM AADMI issues which are purely for your bhaille vote bank. Atlease use konkani words, if you cant do anything better. It will atleast be better if you can stem the rot thats set in our system. Stop vote bank politics, appeasing minorities(in goa, its never meant for Christians) with swords, corruption. We ask good system of education, good roads network, instead of seeing and read about somebody getting killed on our killerways and protection from the thugs and robberies that are in spate. We take care of our own employment, that why so many are all over. Dont wast money on Greenfield airport which Churchill might mistake as a practise ground for his team or till he wakes from his Kumbkaran sleep. And for that matter we dont need two bridges in Navelim, One is just enough to connect to Varca. Hope better sense prevails. Long live amchem Goem. Beny Pereira Dubai - Goa. Message: 6 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:58:40 +0400 From: Rocky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] MOPA AIRPORT - Jitendra Deshprabhu To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Congress Party says Dabolim Airport should co-exist. This is just to fool people. There is nothing in writing from the Central government that Dabolim airport will exist after commencement of new airport. The cabinet had decided that after the new airport, Dabolim airport will be closed. Then we can have more navy and more migrants in Dabolim in addition to new migrants at the new airport. In order to move with the new airport, our govt. should make sure (in writing) that the Dabolim airport will not be closed. Be more transparent Mr. Jitendra Deshprabhu. The infrastructures in Goa are so bad - be it road, hospital, electricity, water supply. AAM ADMI Govt. should concentrate more on this development. Mr. Jitendra Deshprabhu, can you inform the public as to how many Congress MLA's has purchased plots around Mopa? Mr. Parrikar, has to do the same for BJP MLA,s. Jobs creation will be better for MLA's to make more money during recruitment process. Our PWD Minister, Mr. Churchill Alemao, is sleeping. He should start a new political party. Loves Goa Rocky Message: 5 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:07:39 +0530 From: Philip Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Mopa needs to be viewed in a 'win-win' way To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type:
Re: [Goanet] Goa University Going Central
--- On Fri, 7/18/08, Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A good Goan University faculty member can get natural employment in GU or in any other Indian University. Does being a State University mean that below-standard Goan faculty should get refuge here? -- Dear Roland, Please don't be so hard on Goa University. During its reign of 22 years, it has managed to produce more cooks onboard ships, more packers in Swindon, more houseboys in Kuwait and more illegal waiters in the US than any other university. selma
[Goanet] The Nazareths of Moira
Re: [Goanet] The Old Goans Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dears, A couple of days ago I decided to visit Uncle. Uncle's actual name is Tiberiano Ceasar Austinho Nero Souza Nazareth, scion of one of the oldest and most noble families in Moira. Although his name has a Portuguese twang QUESTION: I wonder if the Nazareth who was a barrister and one time Politician from Nairobi, Kenya was a member of this same family? Nazareth's father is mentioned in Ms Albuquerque's book on Kenya Goans, he is reported to have walked all the way from Mombasa to Dear Gabe, Although Augusto's Uncle Nazareth is a mythical one, the Nazereth you are referring to is probably John Maximian (Mackie) Nazareth, who was also known as QC. apparently, he was the first Goan to be appointed Q.C. The young Nazareth, John Lawrence, you have mentioned is Mackie's grandson. http://www.goacom.com/culture/biographies/mprofile.html The Dr. Vincent Xavier de Sa also mentioned on that page is the nephew of Mackie. The Nazareth and de Sa family have many interconnections through marriage. Cheers, Tony -- Tony de Sa Ph: +91 832 2470148 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] M: +91 9975 162 897 --- 'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' Edmund Burke.
Re: [Goanet] The Old Goans
Dear Mr. Menezes who asked the following QUESTION: I wonder if the Nazareth who was a barrister and one time Politician from Nairobi, Kenya was a member of this same family? Nazareth's father is mentioned in Ms Albuquerque's book on Kenya Goans, he is reported to have walked all the way from Mombasa to Nairobi and was a big strong man. He started several businesses and was one of the first Goans to have made it big and lost it all! His Grandson is a Maths genius, living in Seattle USA. See... I must hasten to say that the characters whom I write about in my Cheers Dears column in the Herald are purely fictional creations. Or else I might have n number of defamation cases to handle. However there are some prominent sons of Moira who are Nazareths, such as Prof. Peter Nazareth, the novelist. Cheers Augusto -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India E [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
[Goanet] Call to Parents Students of Goa!
Dears, Floriano Lobo has a new initiative. A meeting on the proposed CONVERSION of Goa University to a Central University. The issue is basically the same land grab. Forget a piece of land . they are taking the whole Goa University! The Central Govt. can easily set up a Central University in the land acquired for the SEZs at Keri or Verna. Let Goa University be there to give us our local degrees and do local research. What good is it to the local people if the local bus stand is converted into an international airport? Can one travel from Mopa to Dabolim by plane or helicopter on a daily basis? The Central University will be like a SEZ compared to Goa University which is like a GIDC Industrial Estate. Forget about Goan, Non-Goan, Anti-Goan, Pro-Goan .. Just find out how many of the Professors were educated in Goa during their school or college days. How many Readers were in Goan schools? How many Lecturers? How many Post Graduate students? Go on ..there is the RTI. The Goa University is Government funded and has a Public Information Officer. It will not get better with the Central University or an International Educational Hub with Convention Centre, 7-star hotel and all !!! This is just a re-packaging of the old thing ...new wine in old bottles the SPURIOUS vintage material for which you and I will pay through our nose! Mog asundi. Miguel PS I am relying on Floriano's PS ...and he will have to take a call if he jumps a surprise. Note 1: This initiative is NOT, repeat NOT, promoted by Goa Su-Raj Party nor the Goa Environment Action Group to which yours sincerely belongs to. Note 2: This is further to the posts by Dr. U G Barad and Srinivas Kamat reposted on the various I-net forums. floriano for CI Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:32:13 +0100 (BST) From: CORNEL DACOSTA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Call to Parents Students of Goa! Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Dr Barad Of interest too would be any official facts, about the recognition/standing that the University of Goa enjoys, nationally and internationally re its student product, research profile and any other features. Kind regards Cornel DaCosta, London, UK. --- Dr. U. G. Barad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goa University SOLD OUT by handful people!!! Without any hesitation I would say Goa University which stands tall for past 22 years has been SOLD OUTRIGHT without any consultative process and without any discussion on its economic, social and cultural implications... -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:37:13 +0530 From: floriano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Update on the University of Goa Crisis Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear all, As a concerned citizen of Goa and after having acknowledged the seriousness of this move by perhaps some vested interests to have our Goa University upgraded to the status of 'Central University', especially when this move comes without entertaining the say in the matter from concerned Goan public preferably through promoting public discussions to arrive at the advantages as well as the disadvantage of this move, I have taken the liberty to book the Menezes Braganza (Main) Hall for JULY 28, 2008 (MONDAY) from 5.00 p.m. to 7.00 p.m. in the name of the 'CITIZEN'S INITIATIVE' to debate this issue thoroughly and completely and then to pass a RESOLUTION in 'favour' or 'against' this move. [Democratic enough??? especially when the Goan public is accused of objecting to each and every move towards development??] Since this is going to be the 'CITIZEN'S (of Goa) INITIATIVE, the charges will be sought to be offset through public contributions SMALL/LITTLE MONEY FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE MAKES BETTER SENSE THAN A LOT OF MONEY FROM ONE PERSON Academics and concerned citizens are requested to prepare themselves on the above topic to express themselves briefly and effectively and to decide what course the RESOLUTION will take. [If pro or against] Note 1: This initiative is NOT repeat NOT promoted by Goa Su-Raj Party nor the Goa Environment Action Group to which yours sincerely belongs to. Note 2: This is further to the posts by Dr. U G Barad and Srinivas Kamat reposted on the various I-net forums. floriano for CI -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] To have a better say in Delhi, have a bigger konkani state
Ravindrabab Kelekar has suggested the idea of a bigger konkani identity recently. If you have 10 to 15 seats in the Lok Sabha, you have much better bargaining power. With two seats like the way we have today, no one cares. Whether it be a university or not, if Goans have to have a bigger say, they should consider joining up with the surrounding areas to form what is called a Vishal Gomantak or some such thing. That seems to be a practical alternative, provided of course the adjoining areas want to join in. Of course, it is not going to be easy. But no one got anything easily, except of course those who prefer to be slaves! regards, Samir
[Goanet] Daily Haiku #168
DAILY HAIKU #168: GOAN JEVONN by Francis Rodrigues goan cooks rule was a bhatkani, gave the world chilli con-cani ! _ http://2008goanconvention.com/inviter.php _ _
[Goanet] Goa news for July 19, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Bollywood\'s love affair with Goa - Oneindia [Jul 16, 2008] But when anyone thinks of Goa, the first saying that comes to mind is¦actually nothing! One does not waste time in thinking of sayings and slogans. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://entertainment.oneindia.in/bollywood/features/2008/bollywood-love-goa-160708.htmlcid=1228030109ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNGpcWH7k2WjYlfukb6Q3GXBjRQlrg *** The Knowledge Goose - Navhind Times [2 hours ago] This is the â#130;¬Ëknowledge centuryâ#130;¬#132;¢ and Goa does not have any pool of highly educated and vocationally qualified people to create a sustained cadre of ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=07194cid=1228362443ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNF_y_UCL_KVpqRQKXXAKK4pgoHotg *** Threat to expat homes in Goa - BBC News [Jul 17, 2008] Attracted by the fine weather, beautiful coastline, friendly locals and favourable exchange rate, hundreds of British people who have visited Goa on holiday ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7507766.stmcid=0ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNGf0DwIT6_m5PNnKZCq536U-F6qzw *** UK-based trust to sponsor beautification of Goa\'s fort - Economic Times [Jul 15, 2008] 16 Jul, 2008, 1218 hrs IST, PTI PANAJI: Rising from the ruins, Goa's one of the oldest fort is all set to become the tourist attraction in another ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Services/UK-based_trust_to_sponsor_beautification_of_Goas_fort/articleshow/3240245.cmscid=1228022632ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNGwGnaVtqI-TAhbyBbgZ9p_sea8JA *** Panel for knowledge SEZs in Goa - Navhind Times [Jul 17, 2008] by RAMNATH N PAI RAIKAR PANAJI #148; The opposition to industrial special economic zones in Goa may have reached the crescendo, however a sub-committee on ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=071837cid=0ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNG-eQp5fhyGsGc-UY8b1b00OfJndg *** Is the central university status for Goa University justified? - Times of India [Jul 16, 2008] Goa University has been listed as one of the varsities that will be accorded central university status. The university, that came into existence in 1986 is ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://o3.indiatimes.com/mytimes/archive/2008/07/17/4930851.aspxcid=0ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNGSbdc4qE5liWjQb8goLCX5kgdfAQ *** British Life in Goa India Threatened by Clampdowns - GlobalVisas [8 hours ago] The beauty of Goa in India has enticed holidaymakers from Britain and around the world, so much so that some have even decided to start a home there. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.globalvisas.com/news/british_life_in_goa_india_threatened_by_clampdowns314.htmlcid=0ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNH4unvVSONl85ooZmMbYgfRTXZWTg *** Keeping Fit During Your Vacations in Goa - American Chronicle [9 hours ago] Goa is not only a place to laze around and feast on sumptuous Goan cuisine. It is also a wonderful opportunity to give your body a break from the everyday ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/68829cid=0ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNHEILqcyN6V--lURvbQjG_6F9T-eA *** Gujaratis in Goa prefer to set up their own business - Navhind Times [2 hours ago] By GLENN COSTA PANAJI #148; The people from Gujarat have been in the state for the last 50 years and have assimilated into the fabric of Goan society seamlessly ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=071976cid=0ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNEzH61eua9Ak8qGc6Otmt2jd8bbFA *** Alarmed Centre rushes malaria experts to Goa - Times of India [20 hours ago] The team from the National Institute of Malaria Research, an autonomous organisation under the Indian Council of Medical Research, met doctors at Goa ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Alarmed_Centre_rushes_malaria_experts_to_Goa/articleshow/3247933.cmscid=0ei=eieBSNerMYLUlgSchYyXAgusg=AFQjCNHgUl9jU-dggLUHoK9nEatulMFzuA Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] The Nazareths of Moira
2008/7/18 Tony de Sa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Gabe, Although Augusto's Uncle Nazareth is a mythical one, the Nazereth you are referring to is probably John Maximian (Mackie) Nazareth, who was also known as QC. apparently, he was the first Goan to be appointed Q.C. The young Nazareth, John Lawrence, you have mentioned is Mackie's grandson. http://www.goacom.com/culture/biographies/mprofile.html The Dr. Vincent Xavier de Sa also mentioned on that page is the nephew of Mackie. The Nazareth and de Sa family have many interconnections through marriage. Cheers, Tony Tony de Sa Ph: +91 832 2470148 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] M: +91 9975 162 897 RESPONSE: Larry Nazareth's father is the Q.C. The grandfather Nazareth mentioned in Theresa Albuquerque's book is the one who emirated during the early years perhaps before the Railways came into being. Larry studied at St. Teresa's Nairobi was about three classes ahead of me. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
[Goanet] Bridge over trouble community relations
The day the bridge collapsed in Minnesota I went for a party. By 6pm that evening, I knew I would never cross over a bridge again without fearing for my life. Bridges simply don’t collapse. Atleast not ones just twenty minutes from your home and certainly not in the state of middle-class, Midwest Minnesota, where people work hard and pay high taxes to protect themselves from the vagaries of life. The thought of canceling the party, which had been planned for awhile, never entered our Indian minds. Infact the accident itself never seemed to seep through anyone’s consciousness for there was beer to guzzle, samosas to tuck into, blaring Bollywood music to sway to, in-laws to complain about, biryani recipes to exchange, cricket scores and the latest Indian political guffaws to discuss. Elsewhere in Minnesota, just twenty minutes from where we were, helicopters were hovering over a collapsed bridge that plunged cars into the icy-waters of the Mississippi. People were rushing to help with victims, donate blood at hospitals, transport people to safety, join search parties to help find the missing and offer solace to those that had lost a member of their family. Such is the utter indifference of the Indian community to assimilation. Albeit my experiences were more with the Indian guest workers in the US, but some of them had been in the US for upto ten years. Yet, they led lives parallel and in complete apathy to their host country. Shopping in their own grocery stores, watching Bollywood and Tamil movies over the weekend, buying enough clothes in India to last their stay in America and constantly disparaging the American system of education which explores creativity rather than learning by rote. There is no curiosity at all about another culture, no interaction beyond the most superficial and no involvement in their community affairs. Instead they chose to live in a cocoon of India transplanted. (In good conscience, I must add here that in this respect Goans fare much more favorably, because there is a genuine willingness to assimilate when we migrate and it is this more than anything else that defines our community in diaspora.) When we drove home, past midnight, there was an eerie quiet on the streets of Minnesota. A hush to mourn the dead and come to terms with the discomforting thought that even in quiet, peaceful, Blue-state Minnesota the ground could literally give way from under. selma
[Goanet] Knowledge SEZs ?
EPZ, STZ, IT Park, Biotech Park, Food Park and now KNOWLEDGE SEZs??? SEZs by any name are a mega land grab for real estate with the Government clearing the title of the land. SEZs are “a country within a country” (Govt definition) and outside the purview of the laws of the land. Even the argument of economic growth is a colossal con as the SEZs need to show only net profit (one rupee). After all what has happened with the fraud of SEZs in Goa, anyone who supports SEZs in Goa is an obvious partner in crime against our motherland. - Pravin In response to the following news: Willy, Khalap, Nitin favour knowledge cities NT NETWORK PANAJI The deputy chairman of the State Planning Board, Dr Wilfred de Sousa on Friday welcomed the recommendation of a sub-committee on knowledge economy constituted by the State Planning Board under the chairmanship of the noted Goan economist, Dr V A Pai Panandiker as regards setting up of ˜knowledge cities or knowledge industrial parks in Goa. The sub-committee, in its report, had used the terminology educational SEZs or knowledge SEZs for the knowledge cities or knowledge industrial parks. Speaking to ‘The Navhind Times’, Dr de Sousa said that such educational centres of excellence, providing advanced education, would definitely help the local students, a great deal. “It a very good idea,†he added. The former deputy chairman of the State Planning Board, Mr Ramakant Khalap, told this daily that although the report of the Dr Panandiker sub-committee came to him during his tenure as the Planning Board deputy, no discussion took place on the same due to various factors including short term of the then government. “In fact, the recommendation of the report to set up educational SEZs or knowledge SEZs in Goa is very good, except the terminology used, now that the special economic zones have attracted controversy around them,†Mr Khalap said, adding, “the welcome concept suggested in the report should have stuck to the terminology ‘knowledge cities’ or ‘knowledge industrial parks’, instead of the SEZs.†“It is a fact that the state is missing on so many things as far as education is concerned, including intellect, content and to some extent specialised faculty,†Mr Khalap said, adding, “The modern-day education, especially in advanced fields of science, is virtually galloping, while we have no facilities to train our local students in them.†“However, the government should first approach the people and discuss with them modalities of setting up such educational cities, followed by debates in the House over this issue, as suggested in the report,†he observed. The former Planning Board deputy also noted that knowledge cities or knowledge industrial parks should not degenerate into real estate business, or commercial ventures like educational malls, which demand high academic fees, exorbitant capitation fees or donations. “The government should strictly supervise such projects,†he suggested. Welcoming the concept of knowledge cities or knowledge industrial parks, the Goa Chamber of Commerce and Industry chairman, Mr Nitin Kuncolienkar said the terms ‘educational SEZ’ or ‘knowledge SEZ’ are seen in bad taste due to the mishandling of the entire SEZ issue by the government. Stating that the government should now go for an alternate model for the development of Goa, the GCCI chief said that non-polluting knowledge industry is the best option as it can not only develop skill-based industry but also train the locals in advanced education, which would be very helpful in generation of jobs. “Or else, a situation wherein the state will face an economic disaster in next 5 years, is inevitable,†he added, pointing out that the trends, in this direction, have started showing. From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/citygroups/
Re: [Goanet] Evaluating the past
Hi Santosh, I avoid giving a response to your response to my post. Yet I could not resist your long explanation of what you got from my post. Like in many fields, medicine has many scientific fads which do not stand the test of time. With the passage of time we learn from those mis-conceptions and come up with what we belive is a new (perhaps right) concept. Just as we are forgiving of scientists for coming up with these fads, (aka scientific models) we should be considerate of individuals in other fields. Perhaps, a decade from now, some smart scientists may describe us (your work and mine) as victims of the 21st entury fad. Did I read you right, that the Greeks like Hippocrates or Galen were not practicing and teaching what they (and we) call scientific medicine? (see below) From Wikipedia: Hippocrates (460 BC - 370 BC) was an ancient Greek physician of the Age of Pericles, and was considered one of the most outstanding figures in the history of medicine. He is referred to as the father of medicine in recognition of his lasting contributions to the field as the founder of the Hippocratic school of medicine. This intellectual school revolutionized medicine in ancient Greece, establishing it as a discipline distinct from other fields that it had traditionally been associated with (notably theurgy and philosophy), thus making medicine a profession. However, the achievements of the writers of the Corpus, the practitioners of Hippocratic medicine, and the actions of Hippocrates himself are often commingled; thus very little is known about what Hippocrates actually thought, wrote and did. Nevertheless, Hippocrates is commonly portrayed as the paragon of the ancient physician. In particular, he is credited with greatly advancing the systematic study of clinical medicine, summing up the medical knowledge of previous schools, and prescribing practices for physicians through the Hippocratic Oath and other works. Galen (Claudius Galenus; AD 129) of Pergamon was a prominent ancient Greek physician, whose theories dominated Western medical science for well over a millennium. In case you wish to skip responding to this, it is all right. We are forgiving. I do not plan to continue this dialogue. Regards, GL -- Santosh: Use of healing methods such as prayer, anointing and exorcism can be regarded as equivalent to pre-scientific cures such as blood letting. While there are deficiencies in understanding many details of the underlying science, they are quite solidly based on objective evidence and a sound rationale, consistent with the rest of science.
[Goanet] The Knowledge Goose
The Navhind Times Editorial http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=07194 makes the error in declaring that activists and vigilante groups have blindly opposed even IT and other non-polluting industries. Goans have opposed the MEGA FRAUD of SEZs BECAUSE they are just a land grab for REAL ESTATE PURPOSE under the mask of non-existent employment opportunities. The print and electronic media too has exposed the scam at various times in various manners. It is cruel joke to talk about knowledge economy when students in schools are dropping out and the Government is trading off Goa University land for real estate projects under the garb of Convention Centre IT. - Pravin Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Yahoo! group at http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/
[Goanet] Call to Parents Students of Goa!
I like Miguel's point. Have another central university in Goa, perhaps an IIT or an IIM. Why convert our own Goa University into a central one ? The issue is one of control. Currently, the issue seems to be that of funds. There are a number of ways funds can be raised. Perhaps, the govt. should look at ways by which there can be more of self-generation of funds by the university. The education market in India is very huge. Every Tom, Dick and Harry is starting a college nowadays. Huge fees are being charged. Goa University can definitely consider raising fees, increasing the number of seats, starting new programs to raise the necessary funds. Let some cash-cow departments such as Computer Science support non cash-cow department such as social sciences. What scares me the most about taking this univ. central is that toomorrow Arjun Singh or Mural Manohar Joshi will have this bright idea of privatizing education and this precious land will be doled out to Ambanis or some such people. The govt. has done similar things before and there is no guarantee that the univ. will remain a public one. After all, the centre also needs funds to run the univ., and funding crunch can come any time! regards, Samir