[Goanet] Road accidents in Goa on a high

[D'Souza, Avelino]

Road accidents in Goa on a high
21 Jul 2008, 0219 hrs IST, Lara Rebello,TNN

PANAJI: Goa is on the top of the list of states, when it comes to road
accidents. 

"More than 300 accidents occur every year in Goa. This year itself there
have been approximately 150 fatal accidents," estimates traffic Police
Inspector Lawrence D'Souza. The monsoons have made Goan roads even more
dangerous and are responsible for the hike in the number of accidents. 

"Many people in Goa don't even have proper licenses," states Deepak
Manglikar, who works for a popular driving school. Others take to the
roads like F1 racers speeding along ignorant of the damage they could
afflict. Then there are cases of drunk driving. Mixing drinks with speed
creates a collision cocktail, and innocent lives are endangered. 

It is not only the driver who is at risk, pedestrians too, often end up
victim to these motor crimes. 

What is the government doing to curb the rising number of road
accidents? Check posts have been put up on roads frequented by these
speed addicts. Saligao is one such location. 

Every night, these traffic watchdogs stop cars and bikes checking for
licenses. They also check for alcohol consumption. "I get stopped every
time I pass that side in the night," says Noel Francis from Porvorim,
adding, "The junction gets a lot of the party crowd returning from
Calangute and Baga. On their way back home, the roads are quite deserted
so many people overspeed." 

Another effort undertaken by the traffic police is monitoring bike
riders within city limits and along highways. "Every year, we train
young students on road safety and allow them to work alongside our
traffic cops," says PI D'Souza. 

"At the end of the day, no matter how many rules and regulations we
make, road safety depends on the riders and drivers themselves. They
should be responsible motorists," he concludes.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Road_accidents_in_Goa_on_a_high/a
rticleshow/3256897.cms

~(^^)~

Avelino

[Goanet] D.C.C.F

[Melinda Powell]

The Davorlim Civic and Consumer Forum is a small group of village people who 
meet ,on the last Sunday of every month, to discuss civic and consumer 
issues ,and to disseminate information.Under the direction of GOACAN ,the 
forum has been writing letters to different Government departments,Public 
Grieviance Department,Essential Service Departments highlighting problems in 
Davorlim.The forum members have been putting forward several resolutions at 
the Gram Sabha meetings and taking active part in the deliberations.Using 
the Right to Information ,the forum members have been able to procure vital 
bits of information from different public departments.


The Davorlim forum is happy to share three achievements ,through sheer 
persistence and hard work.
1)An illegal  retention wall was being constructed in the rivulet behind St 
Josephs chapel ,Davorlim.After writing several letters to the Water 
Resources Department and other concerned Departments, the work has  stopped 
and the existing half completed structure is being demolished.


2)Acting on a complaint put in by the Gaonkars of Davorlim about an illegal 
structure on Communidade land,the forum wrote letters to the the Davorlim 
Comunidade and the Davorlim Panchayat and highlighted the issue of  misuse 
of the land.The Davorlim Panchayat took action and razed the structure.


3)The Davorlim Civic and Consumer Forum wrote to the Postal authorities 
,highlighting the inconvenience of the people of Davorlim ,with regard to 
paying telephone bills.The PostMaster has taken note of the complaint and 
found a solution ,and  telephone bill payment is now being accepted at the 
mini Post Office ,located at the Panchayat Ghar in Davorlim.


The Davorlim Civic and Consumer Forum is pleased to share this information 
with members of the Public ,and the forum members have an optimistic outlook 
that "change " is possible and that consumers have a right to knowlegde as 
well as redressal.Joint Secretary Wilma Dcosta and Treasurer Mr Zino 
Carvalho have worked hard with different iniatives to take the forum 
forward.



Melinda Coutinho Powell,
DCCF member 

[Goanet] Mirrorless house

[George Pinto]

--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> Your correct diagnosis of many current Goanetters is
> painful, even though some of the worst offenders have
> not posted in a long time.  It breaks ones heart to see
> some smart Goans just do not get it - "It is nice to
> be important. But is more important to be nice."  I
> have a difficult time to understand why so many smart
> Goanetters cannot be original; instead of electing to
> parasite on other peoples' posts.  And of course Goans
> have lost the word humor from their vocabulary.  


It is clear from Gilbert's post above that he lacks a mirror in the house, 
hence all the warts belong to others.

Regards,
George

[Goanet] 'Compromising position'

[JoeGoaUk]

The ongoing topic on Goanet reminds of entirely different matter.

Check this out the use of the term 'Compromising Position'

===
In an another newspaper, today,   it was said the accused raped a pregnant 
woman.
The accused is also a friend of her husband also hailing from Kolkata ad 
residing in the same area Ramnagar.
According to the same news report, it also appears that the two (the victim & 
accused) had an affair, as usual, after her husband left for work, the accused 
entered the rented room, locked the door from inside and turned on the music at 
louder level and the two had sexual intercourse.  however, a curious neighbour 
on hearing the louder music found the door locked from inside  The nosy 
neighbour then peeked thru an opening in the window abd found the pregnant 
woman and her lover in a 'compromising position'...the news spread like 
wildfire. and the woman had to say she had been raped by her husband's friend.
 
Hey Ram, tere Ramnagar meim kya ho raha hai?
 
 =

Goa Scarlett Murder:
 Samson D'Souza confesses the murder
But eyewitnesses say they saw him much later. The police remand application 
filed for the custody of prime accused Samson D'Souza says Shanaboy saw Samson 
and Scarlett in a 'compromising position' in the wee hours of the morning.
===

Sanguem Murder Case

It was here (sister's place) that she (Carmelina) would also spend the night 
with her paramour. It was one night, two months ago that Manuel who would drink 
before going to bed feigned drunkenness and quietly followed his wife to her 
other house. There he caught Carmelina and Norbert in a 'compromising 
position'. He locked the door and shouted at them. Caught in the act, Carmelina 
and Norbert confessed their affair 

Carmelina escape the first attempt.
But was killed during the second so also her brother-in-law.
The husband then killed himself by hanging.

The villagers are now after the Paramour. Having meeting and morchas to 
ex-communicate the paramour etc

The whole village knew about the affair, don’t know why the villagers did not 
take any action against the paramour then?

The three teenage children now without father or mother.

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[Goanet] Talking Photos: Check this beach and the hill..

[JoeGoaUk]

Talking Photos: Check this beach and the hill

Where is this? 

Check this out.

A beach   (the hill in the background also seen with some development)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2686506613/sizes/l/


Close up view of the hill/development
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2684431361/sizes/l/

Another pic (beach)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2668686924/sizes/l/

Clues:
It is captured from the road/Slope coming from Aguada

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Re: [Goanet] Goa University Going Central

[Carvalho]

--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It answers some
> of the [IMHO, snide] comments made by Roland Francis and
> Selma Carvalho about Goan faculty and students,
> respectively, on Goanet.
>  
--
Miguel,
I have to apologise here to the alumni of Goa University, because I momentarily 
got confused between Goa board and Goa University. Also on the same day there 
was another post on Goanet against the proposed educational hub in Goa. All 
this put together made me see red and green.

Now, I understand the dynamics with regards to seats and there is a tangible 
argument here for maintaining both the state and central university. So good 
luck at the citizen's meet.

selma


  

Re: [Goanet] Compromised position on Goanet

[Gilbert Lawrence]

Selma, thanks for your usual insightful comments.  It is the weekend and 
the weather in Upstate NY is raining. So our plans to go the the beach with the 
grand-children, who are spending their summer vacation with us, had to be 
scrapped. I had some time to read a few more post and respond to you.
 
Your correct diagnosis of many current Goanetters is painful, even though some 
of the worst offenders have not posted in a long time.  It breaks ones heart to 
see some smart Goans just do not get it - "It is nice to be important. But is 
more important to be nice."  I have a difficult time to understand why so many 
smart Goanetters cannot be original; instead of electing to parasite on other 
peoples' posts.  And of course Goans have lost the word humor from their 
vocabulary.  
 
It is the "Graduation Season" where high school graduates are feted by their 
parents with lavish parties for graduating from High School.  
 
At yesterday's graduation party, I met a friend, originally from Calcutta, who 
had just returned from a "Bengali Reunion" in Toronto.  He told me the 7,000 
gathering was harmonious and enjoyable.  There were lot of sessions on 
Literature and Poetry, (Bengalis - land of Tagore - are good at this), and 
joint-business sessions. He tell me there was no disunity related to the party 
politics in Bengal, no discussion on history etc etc. The only minor discomfort 
according to him was a 'chip on the shoulder' of Canadian Bengalis towards the 
American Bengalis. 
 
You know the main topic of conversation at the Goan convention will be the buzz 
of, "Who is here ... who could not come  who would not come ... who was 
about to come".:=))
 
I hope I can get your input into my recent post regarding "Crime and 
punishment"  (title change and next to be posted).
Regards, GL
 
 
--- Selma Carvalho 
 
Then there are abusive posters who you simply want to keep away from or have 
been warned to keep away from. There are last wordists, the I'll 
take-everything-personally, the I'm going-to-be-contrary for the sake of it, 
the I'll drag-past-history-or-personal-insults into the mix.  
 
Of late there seems to be more than the usual cantankerous moods.

Is it really worth posting in a compromised state?

Re: [Goanet] Evaluating the Past

[Miguel Braganza]

Dear Dr. Jose,
 
If charges are framed in a Court of law and evidence is brought on record to 
support them, GENERALLY no leniency is possible. Fortunately, there have been 
exceptions.
 
Inquisition cannot be defended. The use of Inquisition of 18th Century to do a 
"Shuddikaran" now is as reprehensible as the "purification" obtained by the 
Inquisition. In this I wholly agree with you.
 
One can demonise the Inquisition and glorify the Kalinga war. Both had horrific 
consequences for the innocent.
 
Shivaji's killing of Afzal Khan can be seen as bravery  . or as treachery. 
It all depends on the perspective.
 
1857 was a 'Mutiny' to some, and a 'War of independence' to others but was 
a consequence of a RUMOUR. Has anyone proved or disproved the rumour??
 
In Goa, there are two opinions on WHO constitutes the MARTYRS of Cuncolim 
...the Desais or the Jesuits. May be both were WRONG.
 
One is also not quite sure if the Bhandaris, Gawdis, Kunbis, Velips and 
Dhangars can be, by any stretch of imagination be called as 'Hindus' in terms 
of their traditional worship. Is "Hinduism" an universal default  option. Are 
the pygmies of Congo who did not convert to Christianity or Islam also Hindus?? 
Are Communists Hindus?
 
Just saw a film titled " The Rabbit Fence" the other day. They actually had a 
"Protector of Aborogines" to terrorize the poor people Down Under in New 
Zealand till 1970!!
 
Mog asundi.
 
Miguel



--- On Mon, 21/7/08, J. Colaco < jc> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: J. Colaco < jc> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Evaluating the Past
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 

Cc: "Gilbert Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "santosh helekar" <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, 21 July, 2008, 2:34 AM

[1] Gilbert:  The robber is caught and confesses to the crime. His guilt is
beyond doubt.


[2] Miguel:  If a 30 year male breaks into my home, assaults a member
of my family and decamps with jewellery, then the correct English and
legal word for it is ROBBERY, not STEALING. 
jc's response:

Theft Act 1968 (as amended)
This fictitious individual is IMHO guilty of the following crimes
(involving two different statutes)

1.Burglarly 2. Theft 3. Battery

Comment: Robbery - only if Theft occured post intimidation or a
threat. No evidence that theft occured after assault

Post-Script: NO justification for the following
a: The unholy Inquisition
b: The biased accounts of that unholy Inquisition.

jc


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Re: [Goanet] Goa University Going Central

[Miguel Braganza]

 
 
Dear Roland ,
 
I do not subscribe to day dreaming as a method of planning. Let us discuss 
issues based on facts known as on date. A good starting point, that Floriano 
Lobo has also accepted, is Dr. Jayant Budkuley's article that the Navhind Times 
has found fit to publish [of course, after deleting the reference to Bhausaheb 
Dayanand Balkrishna Bandodkar, the Founder of Goa Education Society and its 
Dhempe College of Arts & Science, Miramar-Panaji, on land leased by the Mhamai 
Kamat family, as also to the Salgaocars,  Chowgules and the Archdiocese which 
started the other colleges.] 
 
Dr. Jayant Budkuley, is a Professor of Chemistry at Goa Univeristy and his wife 
Dr.Kiran Budkuley is a faculty member in English. [She is also highly 
proficient in Konkani] Dr. Budkuley has served a full 5-year term as the 
Registrar of Goa University, the topmost Administrative post under the 
Vice-Chancellor. He knows well the subject that he has written about.  If you 
have missed that, please read it. It has been posted on Goanet by Floriano Lobo.
 
Once you have read and understood that, we can debate on the subject.
 
In the meanwhile, I would only like to say that if the GOA University becomes a 
CENTRAL University, the Executive Concil, Senate, Academic Council and  
admission policy for students there in will be controlled by the Federal 
Ministry of HRD. You will accept that there is a difference between a "student 
of a central University in Goa" and a "Goa-resident student of an University in 
Goa" becoming an IAS or any other Central Cadre officer.
 
Corruption is not an issue, neither is the strength of our local politicians 
spine. The issue is basically the admission policy for students. We have a 
central Institute of Hotel Management in Goa. It has 225 students per year in 
its 3 year course. Last ten years very few students from Goa made it to the 
IHM. This year the performance of Goa students is possibly the best ...about a 
dozen out of the 225 students joining class tomorrow.
 
So Goa will provide the land and water to run the Central University in Goa for 
people of India. Goans are Indians. Goa is a part of India. Which state of 
India will provide admission to students from Goa in its Universities on "equal 
opportunity" basis ...as tyhe Central University in Goa will provide to them?? 
Can anyone ensure a MoU to that?
 
Of course, I would be glad if a Central University is established in Goa IN 
ADDITION TO the Goa University! That is what the PM had promised  and 
educational hub. No CONVERSIONS, please. No Inquisitions against the 
neo-literates courtesy Goa University being replaced by Central University as 
the Portuguese did to the Syrian Christians in Kerala [and possibly in Goa, if 
Fr. Cosme Costa's projection based on the Syrian Cross in Goa Velha is true.]
 
If the starting of Goa University was publicaly debated for 15 years [1970 to 
1985], why is its closure being done in such a hush-hush way  after the 
Convention Centre and IT Park came under protests on its campus? Goans cannot 
be that stupid, or are they?? Time will tell.
 
Mog asundi
 
Miguel
 

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:29:56 -0400
From: "Roland Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa University Going Central
Message-ID:
    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Miguel,

 Living abroad, I have never presumed to tell
Goans in Goa how to do things. However, that does not prevent me from
making an argument and stating my views on a subject that is
introduced on Goanet.

I am glad that Floriano has immediately started a Citizen's Initiative
to discuss the matter. That is the right move. Before one starts
agitating, one must know both sides of the argument of why and what
one is agitating for.

One important question arises before discussion of the subject becomes
meaningful. Why is the Centre considering conversion of GU? 
 
There are 2 subsets of the issue of conversion of the University. 

I strongly favor the conversion to a Central University.


Having a Central University will slowly put Goa on the national map.
Students passing out from the new Goa University  will have ready access
to Central Cadre services, a presence it now sorely lacks. With a
sizable body of Goa Cadre top administrative officers, top cops and
top diplomats, Goa will get the respect it deserves. And as you so
well know Goans flourish academically. They have always done so, given
the right environment. Unfortunately, that environment has always been
out of Goa. No protest will ever be worth foregoing this window of
opportunity.

Regards and mog assundi,

Roland.

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Miguel Braganza
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dears,
>
> Roland Francis can sit abroad and tell us plausible stories of what
> happens at Goa University at Taleigao Plateau [in village Panchayats
> of Taleigao, Santa Cruz and Bambolim] or any other University in Goa.
> He is knowledgeable. I make no such claim for myself.


---

[Goanet] Compromised position on Goanet

[Dr. U. G. Barad]

This is in response to Message No: 1, dated:  Sun, 20 Jul 2008 by ONLY lady
in Goanet. 

She writes: .jokes aside, lately I've been feeling compromised on Goanet.
When one has been on this site for a couple of years, one develops
friendships or at least unofficial allies. People who've sided with you in
the past, supported your point of view or generally been kind and affable.
It becomes very hard to voice arguments against these people and still
maintain friendship. (Perhaps Roland and Frederick are the only two I can
think of, where I've succeeded and even there I wouldn't want to push the
envelope).

My response: Why one should think this way? FACT is People get FED UP eating
and dining in / at ONLY one restaurant or hotel..today everyone on this
earth   wants to enjoy different splendid taste and favorer.as was / is
spelt out by even Roland and Frederick! What say? May be the restaurant /
Hotel owner relied on their promise .made otherwise.not knowing THEY
ARE TO SMART!! 

Having said all this, I request ONLY lady to keep KEYING as long as her
destination doesn't turn up to be realistic...DONT YOU WORRY about Goans in
Goajust keep worrying about who willlift and shift to Switzerland.
Goans are there to take care of what is left in / of Goa!

Till than Let's enjoy SWITZER.LAND. What say??

Best regards,
Dr. U. G. Barad

Re: [Goanet] Evaluating the Past

[Santosh Helekar]

--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
> It is a pity that Dr. Santosh Helekar, a professed
> atheist/agnostic rationalist, should actually bring home
> the point of what is essentially a CHRISTian
> belief:REPENTENCE , not punishment, as the first
> option. No one can claim to be Christian and justify
> Inquisition at the same time. That is akin to storing
> ice-cubes in Hell.
>  

I am neither interested in correcting the path of a wayward Christian nor that 
of an estranged agnostic. My intent was simply to point out the absurdity of 
drawing a parallel between the crimes of the inquisition and the errors of 
pre-scientific medicine. To illustrate this by using Gilbert's latest spurious 
distraction, the robber who makes off with Gilbert's family jewels has nothing 
in common with the patient who goes home with his treatment.

Cheers,

Santosh

Re: [Goanet] Evaluating the Past

[J. Colaco < jc>]

[1] Gilbert: A 30 year old male robber breaks into your home. He
steals the jewelry, physically assaults a member of your family and
flees. The robber is caught and confesses to the crime. His guilt is
beyond doubt.


[2] Miguel:  If a 30 year male breaks into my home, assaults a member
of my family and decamps with jewellery, then the correct English and
legal word for it is ROBBERY, not STEALING. Stealing is when the act
is done UNKNOWN to the other.

My personal choices as punishment for the Robber would depend on the
reason for the robbery, the circumstances  and the robber's state of
mind at the time of the act


jc's response:

While I do not profess to know much about the subject of English legal
system and with due respect to the learned opinions of others, I
venture the following based upon ALL the available facts (as submitted
by Gilbert')...and on the Theft Act 1968 (as amended)

This fictitious individual is IMHO guilty of the following crimes
(involving two different statutes)

1.Burglarly 2. Theft 3. Battery

Comment: Robbery - only if Theft occured post intimidation or a
threat. No evidence that theft occured after assault

Comment 2: No leniency based upon any mitigating circumstances should
be expected after the assault/battery

Comment 3: The meaning of the word "Stealing" is not as restrictive as
suggested by Miguel.

Post-Script: NO justification for the following
a: The unholy Inquisition
b: The biased accounts of that unholy Inquisition.


c: Whenever one wishes to judge an event, ALL the facts of the case
should be examined.
d: Just because there are recorded facts on one side - does not mean
that there were NO other facts.
e: It is my honest opinion that there is selective and
religious-politically motivated anti-Catholic propaganda spread by way
of reference to the Inquisition. Some of it is LIES (please see
Godfrey's post - link infra)
f: Sometimes, this propaganda is selectively used to hammer the
Portuguese, at other times ...the Catholic Church.
g: The Catholic Church is partly responsible for the continuance of
this propaganda. It should come clean and apologize for its actions.
h: Jewish and Hindu writers (eg Priolkar) should have also come clean
about the brutality of their own religions against others. That would
have made them more credible.
i: At this moment, they are just as credible as Gilbert - which isn't very much.

jc

for further reading:->

1: The most unholy Inquisition - foreword
http://www.colaco.net/1/InquiForeword.htm

2: Bigots spreading distortions about the Inquisition
http://www.colaco.net/1/GGinquisitionLies.htm

3: How about conversion to humane behaviour?
http://www.colaco.net/3/PravinHumane.htm

[Goanet] Central University Status for GU: for whom? and at what cost? [Budkuley]

[Miguel Braganza]

Dears,
 
The long article by the former Registrar [and serving Professor of Chemistry] 
at Goa University posted by Floriano [truncated here as required under goanet 
rules] has also appeared in print in Goa. It answers some of the [IMHO, snide] 
comments made by Roland Francis and Selma Carvalho about Goan faculty and 
students, respectively, on Goanet.
 
If you are concerned about avenues for higher education in Goa, you cannot 
afford not to read it now.
 
Dr. K.G. Hiremath, Chairman-elect of Worldwide Fund for Nature-Goa and 
President of BSG, is a Ph. D. in Botany from Goa University. So are Dr. Bernard 
Felinov Rodrigues {Reader at GU] Dr. Kasturi Narayan Desai [Lecturer 
PES-Ponda], Dr. Sima V.Kamat [lecturer PES-Ponda], Dr. Maria Araujo Fonseca 
[lecturer SXC-Mapusa] and Dr. Francis L. Coelho [Dy. Director of Eco-Tourism 
and DCF]. Dr. Nandkumar Kamat is a Ph. D. in Microbilogy from Goa University 
and Dr. Manoj Borcar is in Zoology. Dr. Narayan Desai is a Ph. D. in Political 
Science also from GU. Nalini de Elvino Sousa, Director of Communicare, an 
institute that teaches Portuguese, Spanish and Italian besides producing the 
famous "Contacto Goa" programmes, did her Masters in Portuguese at Goa 
University before registering for her doctoral studies to Portugal. Goa 
University is one of the few Universities in the world to have its Library 
online. Goa University has MoUs with quite a few foreign universities
 and it has its UGC-sponsored Centre for Latin American Studies. St. Xavier's 
College, one of its 30-odd affiliated colleges, has the distiction of being 
selected as one of the top 47 Colleges in the whole of India as a Centre with 
Potential for Excellence [CPE] among the 1,800-odd colleges under the 
University Grants Commission , Ministry of HRD, Government of India. As Dr. 
Budkuley rightly points out, till March-April,1961, examiniations a person 
living in Goa needed "Passport" or "Travel Documents" to answer a SSC exam in 
British or Independent India. From March 1964, it was possible to answer up to 
B.A. or B.Sc. in Goa itself. Then came MBBS to replace Medico Cirugiao and B.E. 
followed alongside B.Comm. Till  March, 1985, a M.Sc. meant "practical" in 
Bombay. Only thereafter, students in Goa could study and answer all exams, 
theory and practicals up to Ph. D. in Goa itself. If it becomes a Central 
University, one could well forget the Post
 Graduate options like MD, MS and Ph. D for the Goa ST, SC and OBC. They will 
be overwhelmed by candidates from states like Meghalaya, where ALL the three 
tribes have been declared ST, or other states which have STs which are several 
times the entire population of Goa.   
 
Graduates and Postgraduates from Goa University can be seen in all fields from 
Architecture to Zoology. They may all be  as dead as a dodo in twenty years 
from now.
 
Mog asundi.
 
Miguel

Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:34:48 +0530
From: "goasuraj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] Central University Status for GU: for whom? and at
    what    cost? by: Dr. Jayant Budkuley-Ex-Registrar GU - goasuraj COMMENTS
To:   
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

COMMENTS

The above is the right synopsis for the orientation to commence the intended
DEBATE  of the intellectuals of GOA under the banner of 'CITIZEN'S (OF GOA)
INITIATIVE' scheduled to meet for the first time on July 28 (Monday), 2008
from 5 p.m. to 7 p.m. at the Main Hall of  Institute Menezes Braganza,
Panjim.

Not to comment  on the pros and cons delivered by Dr. Jayant Budkuley above,
we shall reproduce the preamble of the Chapter [IX] - EDUCATION excerpted
from our ROADMAP FOR GOA (at page 64)

CENTRAL UNIVERSITY STATUS: For Whom? And At What Cost?
  -by Jayant Shivaji 
Budkuley [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

    This article is a loud-thinking prompted by the news item
reported in a section of press on 15th July 2008 regarding the proposed
conversion of Goa University into a Central University. In my considered
opinion, if this move is finalized, it is going to spell disaster to the
coming generation of students from the State. I would like to share my views
and anxieties about this with the destiny shapers and the destiny makers of
this state. But before that I would like to refresh the memory of my
generation which has been the privileged witness to the history of post
liberation Goa because, "those who forget their history are condemned to
repeat it". Undeniably, the future growth and distinct development for any
state lies in its institutions of higher learning.

SOME BACKGROUND:

 For a generation that had needed a 'passport' to go to India even to appear 
for the secondary school examination, liberation brought the facility of higher 
education to
their doorstep and encouraged them to fulfill their dreams.
It was due to the social commitment and vision of great Goan philanthropists
such as Padmashri Late Shri Vasantrao S. Dempo, Shri. Vishvasrao D.
Chowgu

Re: [Goanet] Evaluating the Past

[Bosco D'Mello]

-Original Message-
From: Gilbert Lawrence






What would be your suggestions as to the appropriate punishment for this
robber?




Kitem re irmao Gilbert...having a slow Sunday??



"Evaluating the Past" and seeking punishment for the future??



Why dont you jump into the car and dash across the I90 and share your
experiences with other Goans coming together at the 2008 International Goan
Convention next week in Toronto?



- Bosco

www.2008goanconvention.com

[Goanet] Evaluating the Past

[Miguel Braganza]

Dear Gilbert,
 
First let us contextualize your question: this is a discussion on your 
comparison of the infamous INQUISITION with mediaval MEDICAL PRACTICES, in 
order to JUSTIFY  the former. Dr. Santosh Helkar, had rightly challenged this 
odious comaparison and I had supported his view.
 
If a 30 year male breaks into my home, assaults a member of my family and 
decamps with jewellery, then the correct English and legal word for it is 
ROBBERY, not STEALING. Stealing is when the act is done UNKNOWN to the other.
 
My personal choices as punishment for the Robber would depend on the reason for 
the robbery, the circumstances  and the robber's state of mind at the time of 
the act. Some men get boistrous when drunk and are repentent when sober. The 
problem is alcoholism, not criminal bent of mind. It would meet my ends of 
justice if this man a] returns the robbed jewellery, b] apologises to the 
person he assaulted and c] undergoes a rehab treatment for alcololism in a 
recognised rehab facility. No other punishment is needed as far as I am 
concerned. If he has confessed his crime, repentence cannot be far behind. I 
would go by the judgement of the lady judge in Australia while sentencing a 
teenager for hacking into international computer system. this man may have a 
great career ahead ...like Saul turned Paul. [See Acts 9:1 ff]
 
If the man is a seasoned criminal, with a history of crime, his past actions 
and his psycholigical profile will need to be considered before determining 
what needs to be done. Just imprisonment, rigorous or simple, solves nothing 
and one gains nothing from the loss of a man who could have been someone's 
son, brother, father instead of just being in jail.
 
Of course, If I was to seem this man immediately after the assualt, I might 
want to hammer the daylights out of him. That would be my anger at work, not a 
calculated means of correcting the wrong. The Grand Judges of the Inquisition 
had no cause for anger. They went about their work methodically over a lng 
period of time. Worst of all, they blasphemed Jesus Christ who died on the 
cross for our sins  ...when actually he should have crucified Judas for 
betraying him, Peter for denying him and abused his desciples for falling 
asleep while he was suffering and praying in the Garden of Olives.
 
The Women's rights and other organisations wanted the five boys who were 
accused of raping an Art College student to be castrated. It was later found 
that the girl was not raped at all. Several priests in USA and now in Australia 
have been proven to have molested young boys and girls who were entrusted in 
their care. One case that has been highlighted is of one priest RAPING TWO 
SISTERS REPEATEDLY WHEN THEY WERE STILL CHILDREN in Australia. The World Youth 
Day has only served to bring that in deep focus. Who would blame the people if 
they thought like the Women's groups in Goa? What would YOU suggest as the 
appropriate punishment for those proven to have molested or raped or both in 
this context??? Would YOU send your recommendation in writing to the Pope, the 
guardian of the Christian values on Earth? Would YOU justify an Inquisition of 
the Clergy the world over, including your current parish? Inquisition was 
justified as a means to maintain the
 PURITY of belief. It seems to be needed now more than then.
 
It is a pity that Dr. Santosh Helekar, a professed atheist/agnostic 
rationalist, should actually bring home the point of what is essentially a 
CHRISTian belief:REPENTENCE , not punishment, as the first option. No one can 
claim to be Christian and justify Inquisition at the same time. That is akin to 
storing ice-cubes in Hell.
 
Mog asundi.
 
Miguel
 
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:54:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Evaluating the Past
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Miguel,
So let me ask your (and anybody else who would like to volunteer their) 
opinion. This is a special invitation to attorneys and those in the 
law-and-order (police) field. 

A 30 year old male robber breaks into your home. He steals the jewelry, 
physically assaults a member of your family and flees.? The robber is caught 
and confesses to the crime. His guilt is beyond doubt.

What would be your suggestions as to the appropriate punishment for this 
robber? Please provide the punishment options in decreasing order of 
preference.? No long explanations needed.? This is not a trick question and the 
answers need not be tricky or complicated.
?
Thanks in anticipation to you (and others) for your cooperation.
Regards, GL
?
?
- Miguel Braganza 

"But go and learn what it means 'I will have mercy and not sacrifice'; for I 
have not come to call the righteous but the sinners to repentance." Matthew 
9:13 New Testament  Mog asundi. Miguel






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[Goanet] Changing World

[Gilbert Lawrence]

It is great to see the youth of today, in all faiths, find a more deeper 
meaning to life. This is seen in the world in general, including India and 
Goanet.  Atheists, agnostics and other variants of 'live and let live (for 
today)', together with the Hollywood mentality (where everything goes), seem to 
have run out of steam.  The  pope has cautioned and termed today's world a 
"Spiritual desert".  The events repeated in Australia following a recent very 
successful trip to USA, is making this supposedly conservative Pope very 
popular.
 
The following is an article from the BBC by Nick Bryant.   To me, the great 
story is the ability of today's youth to combine national pride with inner 
values, which transcends narrow parochialism and geographical boundaries.  
Regards, GL
 
Pope's Visit to Australia
by Nick Bryant in BBC
How do you measure the success of an event like Catholic World Youth Day? 
If it is in the enthusiasm and devotion of its participants, then the Vatican 
will have deemed this an enormous triumph. Waving their national flags, 
strumming their guitars and performing their dances, the 225,000 pilgrims have 
stamped their personalities and spirituality on this city. Their flame-coloured 
rucksacks have added a splash of colour.
 
One of the main aims of this event is to strengthen pilgrims' faith in a manner 
which safeguards the future of the Roman Catholic church. At the climactic 
papal mass, which was celebrated at Randwick racecourse in Sydney, Cardinal 
George Pell, Australia's most senior Catholic, spoke of how the pilgrims were 
"alive with evangelical energy", and how young priests were "eager to preach an 
ancient faith".

Re: [Goanet] Bridge over trouble community relations

[CORNEL DACOSTA]

Hi John
 Thanks for your long account. I'll keep my comment
brief re the issue of racism in the UK. Yes, there are
racist incidents from time to time, often pretty tiny
but occasionally big. However, for the UK to absorb
some 9% of the population (of the 60 million
inhabitants) with ethnic minorities, or visible
minorities, in the last few decades is an outstanding
achievement by any standard. Deep down, in terms of
its collective consciousness, the UK is liberal and
broadly fair and it is this that has made so many
visible minorities feel quite at home in the great
diversity here. They are collectively in no hurry to
leave, and also, many more want to immigrate and
settle here. Hopefully there will be more inroads into
the power structure by the visible minorities
reasonably soon.  The somewhat unexpected rapid change
in the USA from the horrendous Civil Rights days, to
today, with a potential black President, has much to
emulate and help the UK progress much faster than it
has done, on the 'race' score.
Cornel DaCosta,
 London, UK.
--- JOHN MONTEIRO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ed / Selma
>
>   The general population of the United Kingdom is
> far from racialist.  There are pockets bigots that
> tire of the endless influx of migrants, tired of the
> fights between young hoodies or hoodlums who fight
> for their bit of turf, be they black or asian, born
> & bred in the UK or not who mimic 'gansta'
> lifestyles, there are pockets of bigots & a minority
> of the population who tire of 'terrorist activities'
> mainly blamed on the life-style of the migrants who
> are also born & bred in the UK, or not.
>
>   Yes there are many pockets of bigotted racialists
> here in the United Kingdom, they are the minority...

[Goanet] Goa University Going Central

[Dr. U. G. Barad]

This is in reply to Roland Francis's Message No: 5, dated: Sat, 19th July
2008 on the subject. 

 

Roland, I picked up a main paragraph from your posting which read as
follows: 

 

Having a Central University will slowly put Goa on the national map.
Students passing out from the new Goa University (or whatever it may be
called, like Lal Bahadur Shastri University) will have ready access to
Central Cadre services, a presence it now sorely lacks. With a sizable body
of Goa Cadre top administrative officers, top cops and top diplomats, Goa
will get the respect it deserves. And as you so well know Goans flourish
academically. They have always done so, given the right environment.
Unfortunately, that environment has always been out of Goa. No protest will
ever be worth foregoing this window of opportunity.

 

And my response to this Para is as follows: 

 

You said: Having a Central University will slowly put Goa on the national
map. 

My response: It appears that Goa till date is not on National Map. I think
Goa prominently appears in national and international map in many ways and
therefore we don't need to convert Goa University into Central University to
see our Goa on the national map.  

 

You said: Students passing out from the new Goa University (or whatever it
may be called, like Lal Bahadur Shastri University) will have ready access
to Central Cadre services, a presence it now sorely lacks. 

My response: This is short sighted view. Do I have to name the list of Goan
persons who are already in this cadre without Goa University being
transformed into Central University?  

 

You said: With a sizable body of Goa Cadre top administrative officers, top
cops and top diplomats, Goa will get the respect it deserves. And as you so
well know Goans flourish academically. 

My response: Goans have and already flourished globally even when Goa
University was not CONVERTED into C. U.? Are you surprised by this
statement? 

 

You said: No protest will ever be worth foregoing this window of
opportunity.

My response: Yes, we don't protest for Goans are known globally as SUSEGAD.
This is the sole reason we are taken on golden ride in everything that's
happening in Goa Today..look at SEZ, CRZ, RP, etc. issues. Are theses issues
NOT worthwhile taking up and fighting for OUR RIGHT? 

 

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad

 

[Goanet] Justice for Gilbert's robber

[George Pinto]

--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
> A 30 year old male robber breaks into your home. He
> steals the jewelry, physically assaults a member of your
> family and flees.  The robber is caught and confesses to
> the crime.  His guilt is beyond doubt. What would be your
> suggestions as to the appropriate punishment for this robber? 


Dear Gilbert,

There is more to the story than meets the eye and his guilt is not beyond 
doubt. I met the alleged robber today near the Parra tinto. Actually, "he" is a 
30 year trans-gender person called Chris. Chris says "he" removed the jewelry 
since it belonged to "his" mother but was stolen by the sister-in-law when 
"his" parents were working in the Gulf. The so-called physical assault was in 
retaliation for the blows "he" received yesterday from his uncle after "he" was 
told "he" could not have the jewelry back. Also Chris would like his dad's 
genuine ROLEX watch purchased at the Anjuna flea market returned, along with a 
share of the property.

So now you know the truth.

George

Re: [Goanet] Goa University going Central

[Jeevan R]

Goa university is already in the hands of vested interests who are
controlling appointments, construction and educational activities,
university sports facilities, etc.

It will be a TRANSFER from one *vested* interest to the other if it
does become a central university.

Over the years the University has made no great efforts to generate
funds on its own.
The vice chancellors, who are drafted  from outside of Goa (mostly
political appointments), stay for 5 to 10 years enjoy life in Goa and
go back. No accountability!
It is an irony that thus far, Goa University has not found even one of
its own faculty to be eligible for a regular VC position at GU.

Lethargically it has been totally dependent on Government of Goa for
its survival baring a few grant proposals here and there. Quite
frankly the annual budget of only 12 crores says all about the
activities of the university, and I am sure much of that budget will
be utilized as salaries for the faculty and staff.

Efforts should have been made to generate funds by means of active
collaborations with industry, consultancy, process developments, funds
from national and international sponsoring agencies so also
endowments, and support from alumni.
Goa University also has many affiliated colleges to take care of and
much of its time goes in managing these colleges and conducting exams
year round and therefore much less emphasis on research related
activities and generation of funds.

I believe schools such as Goa medical and Goa Engineering Colleges
should be converted into separate autonomous bodies or medial and
engineering universities, respectively, such that these schools can
manage their functioning independently without the interference of Goa
University.

It is also time to evaluate the contribution of Goa University to
various fields such as science and humanity, generation of knowledge,
process development, impact publications, etc. apart from churning out
graduates every year and the mention of  a few successful NET/SET
students as any university gets international repute primarily due to
its contribution to knowledge, and research accomplishments.

[Goanet] Feedback re Unsubscription

[Bosco - Goanet Volunteer]

Folks,

Goanet Admin receive many messages - bouquets and brickbats and the 
ocassional abuse too, most of which is not posted publicly. We received this 
message a few hours ago and I thought I should share this message with 
Goanetters in general. The individual below refers to last week. No marks 
for guessing which of our posters are in love with themselves.


- Bosco
Goanet Admin
http://www.goanet.org
Where Goans Connect



On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 9:10 AM, xyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Dear Friends

 I appreciate the fine work you are doing to make goanet  a service to so 
many of us


 I used to suscribe to it some years and then I stopped because it was 
monopolised by a few people, the interactions were very personal and full of 
venom.


 I decided last week to resubscribe but was shocked that the same persons 
were carrying on  in the same fashion since I stopped two years ago.


 I am not so "saavy' about these things but is there no monitoring possible 
?


 May be I am ignorant and the site is actually serving the intended purpose

 Because I love Goa I keep in touch thro Goa News. Enough for the time 
being together with frequent visits on assignments and vacations.


 Best wishes

 x

Re: [Goanet] Book In Black and White - editor FN

[Carvalho]

Reading the book In Black and White, I wondered why so much of the action 
centers around the eighties. Two things happened in the eighties. One the 
Portuguese daily Oheraldo, became an English daily and secondly, perhaps more 
importantly, the first post-colonial generation finished college and came of 
age. Incidentally, I too came of age in the eighties and so perhaps there is 
much resonance for me in this book.

For those still wondering if liberation was good for Goa or not, please read 
this book. It will assure you that the fresh and often cocky perspectives put 
forward by these men could only have germinated in freedom.

Derek Almeida and Rahul Goswani's essays are so brilliant. The former hilarious 
and the latter thought-provoking.

selma 


  

[Goanet] Ravindra Bhavan Margao opened.

[godfrey gonsalves]

On  20th July 1969 when US astronaut  Niel Armstrong  set foot on the moon it 
was  a giant leap for mankind.

Thirty nine years later  for the citizens of Margao  the commercial  and 
cultural center of Salcete and  South  Goa district the inauguration at the 
hands of Secretary (Culture) Government of India Mr Abhijit Sengupta (in the 
absence of the Union Minister for  Culture  Ms Ambika Soni the Chief Guest of 
the day )  of the  newly constructed 20 crore Ravindra Bhavan  Opp Swimming 
pool at Fatorda with a 1150 seater ac  auditorium,  today 20th July at exactly 
4.20 p.m. at  a  well organised function   turned out to be a  red letter day. 

The construction began in 2002 according to Director of Culture Mr Prasad 
Loliyekar who spoke to this writer and the entire job was entrusted to the PWD 
Govt of Goa.

This Bhavan the third of its kind in the State (others are the Ravindra Bhavan 
at Curchorem and the Raajiv Gandhi kala Kendra at Ponda under the Department of 
Art and Culture ) boasts of the first 1150 seater AC auditorium in the whole of 
Goa. 

Mr Sengupta the Chief Guest of the function stated that the Union Minister Ms 
Soni could not come due to sudden developments in New Delhi (apparently 
referring to the trust vote on 22nd July 2008 of the UPA government over the 
nuclear deal)  He stated that he was impressed by the cultural presentation ( 
the lamp dance was applauded by the audience ) the size of the stage and 
ensured that as per the wishes of the Union Minister Ms Soni whatever support 
his ministry could extend to the Department of Cuture in Goa.


Speaking at the function the CM Mr Digamber Kamat told the gathering that his 
first demand to the then CM and present South Goa MP Mr Francisco Sardinha was 
to give him the portfolio of Art & Culture and not Power.  It was his ambition 
to have a state of art auditorium for Margao the cultural centre of Salcete and 
South Goa as the people had to go to the Kala Academy at Campal Panaji.

Today he claimed to have achieved this dream although it was delayed due to the 
reasons of sound accoustics needed for the same.  He complimented the 
architects the PWD for fullfilling his ambition.  He said that Margao had 
produced a significant number of artistes and was proud to have named the 
indoor auditorium in the name of late Joao Agostinho Fernandes known as "Pai 
tiatrist"

He castigated indirectly a section of the people under the banner of a local 
outfit who were agitating over the ODP 2011 for Margao by saying their protest 
was akin to a mother putting a black mark on her child to ward off evil.  For 
while the Margaoites were celebrating the birth of the Ravindra Bhavan there 
were others putting a damper on these celebrations.  He re-affirmed that his 
Government would always adhere to the wishes of the public and wherever there 
were lapses he was amenable to correction.


A visibly upset CM further  said he was proud that all the artistes who have 
performed were Goan artists ( apparently to remove the blot on his image as a " 
saviour of migrants ") .  

He said that the Department of Culture was the first to have been awarded the 
ISO mark a unique distinction for a government Department in the whole country. 
 Yet another achievement he stated was that Goa was the first State in the 
country to come out with a cultural policy.  He stated that while in New Delhi 
the Union Minister Ms Ambika Soni had complimented his efforts and recommended 
to other states to ameliorate this policy in their respective State.
  
For the Goans and  Konkani “tiatr mogis”  there is yet another reason to 
rejoice.  Following the vociferous  demand by  the Konkani “tiatr mogis”   and 
pro Romi lipi activists a befitting tribute has been paid to a famed Konkani 
"tiatrist"  playwright of yesteryears who earned the sobriquet “ Pai Tiatrist” 
for the 1150 seater AC indoor auditorium has been named after  late Joao 
Agostinho Fernandes who hails from a small dwelling H No: 306 at  Modsai Borda 
(near the residence of late Mr Chris Perry)  now in the Fatorda Assembly 
Constituency.


Chief Minister Mr Digamber Kamat needs to be applauded for keeping up his 
promise on this issue. 

It may be noted that well in the 19th century entertainment in Konkani was 
mainly in the form of “zagors” and “khells” . But its cheap and vulgar form of 
entertainment did not appeal to the high browed and well meaning citizens, and 
was often a subject of ridicule by others.  It was left to one Lucacinho 
Ribeiro from Bombay (now Mumbai ) an ex employee of an Italian Opera troupe to 
form the “Goa Portuguese Dramatic Company” and stage for  the first time a 
Konkani tiatr “Italian  Bhurgo " at the New Alfred Theatre Bombay (Mumbai ) on 
17th April 1892 Easter Sunday. It was staged in the original format of seven 
acts ( four pre and three  post interval)  Later when Lucacinho parted ways 
with other of his colleagues one of whom was late Joao Agostinho Fernandes and 
disba

[Goanet] TGF alert: Goans: Beware of this scam!

[J. Colaco < jc>]

Dear ALL,

As promised, TGF has published a front page Special Alert for the
attention of ALL Goans (applicable to our brother & sisters in Daman
and Diu)

This alert was being researched for release on August 20, 2008 the 8th
anniversary of TGF ( also Goans International Day)

But due to the recent expose by the BBC of the problem, TGF has
brought forward this alert.

The article is self explanatory and is available at http://www.colaco.net

Responses are welcome

jc
ps: IF you are seeing the older page of TGF on your screen, please
REFRESH your browser.

[Goanet] WYD ends, next to be held in Madrid - from ninemsn

[Ruby Goes]

This article appears in news.ninemsn.com.au and I thought you should see it.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=600626 

If you cannot click on the link above, copy and paste the entire address
below into your web browser. 
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=600626 

For all the latest news around the globe, check out ninemsn. 
http://ninemsn.com.au 

GOOD MORNING GOANET.

For your information.

rubygoes

[Goanet] Goa on istockphoto.com

[Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या]

Goa on istockphoto.com
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_search.php?text=goa&action=file
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Ph +91-832-2409490 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Goa
http://www.linkedin.com/in/fredericknoronha

Re: [Goanet] Central University Status for GU: the Jayant Budkuley Analysis

[Roland Francis]

I totally respect the views of the former GU registrar Jayant Shivaji
Budkuley and had I such information, my views of the conversion would
definitely have been much tempered.

Thank you Floriano.

Roland.
Toronto.



On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 3:04 AM, goasuraj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> CENTRAL UNIVERSITY STATUS: For Whom? And At What Cost?

Re: [Goanet] Bridge over trouble community relations

[JOHN MONTEIRO]

Ed / Selma
   
  The general population of the United Kingdom is far from racialist.  There 
are pockets bigots that tire of the endless influx of migrants, tired of the 
fights between young hoodies or hoodlums who fight for their bit of turf, be 
they black or asian, born & bred in the UK or not who mimic 'gansta' 
lifestyles, there are pockets of bigots & a minority of the population who tire 
of 'terrorist activities' mainly blamed on the life-style of the migrants who 
are also born & bred in the UK, or not.
   
   
  Yes there are many pockets of bigotted racialists here in the United Kingdom, 
they are the minority but the 'red top' newspapers, and their political masters 
who own the media give them the headlines, give them the power they seek, so we 
have pockets of political parties being born such as UK Independance Party 
(UKIP), and the other 'Independents' who are in guise as 'protectors' of the 
'white' minority. The BNP have been around for many years, they have many of 
their members in position of power, in local government as well as lobbying in 
the higher Parliament, but they are the minority, however vocally strong.
   
   
  Two weeks ago yesterday I boarded a bus at around 5pm.  A couple of stops 
later, an older white man got on and stood in the reserved area for push chairs 
& prams.  He had one of those little shopping trolleys used by the elderly to 
put in their shopping etc.  It was empty but he was carrying another bag 
(plastic shopping bag) in the other hand. I thought at the time that this was a 
little odd (eccentricity is rife at any age in the UK), but for a man of about 
60, it seemed about right I guessed.
   
   
  The bus passengers were a mix of Afro-Caribbean & Whites (some of these 
Whites were Eastern European  -  and me) & NO Asians represented in this 
melange, even the driver was a young Afro-Caribbean. Everyone minding their own 
business, some reading, some talking, some looking out the window.
   
   
  The bus made another two stops, then a young Indian woman aged, I guess in 
her mid-20's comes on with her little daughter of about 18 months to a year 
old, in a large pram.  She was followed behind by her husband, carrying half a 
dozen bags of shopping, nearly falling over but managed to put them all in the 
space reserved for excess baggage & shopping. 
   
   
  She manouved to the only spare space left, the old man was standing there, he 
did not bother to move until she asked him politely & smiled forlornly (there 
was nowhere else for her to go, and this space is a priority area for mums with 
pushchairs, prams & young children as well as the infirm), the old fellow made 
it obvious he was being asked to vacate this space so made a small scene by 
huffing and puffing out of the way, to another space which had been vacated 
previously (for a seated person).  
   
   
  He was not infirm, nor was he out of space to go to.  He just did not want to 
move, he was not sitting down either, so he ought to have given up this area 
graciously, Instead he glared at this lady for the audacity she had to take up 
this space of his, but after some huffing & puffing she moved a little way to 
enable her to get in, while she squeezed herself and her child & pram in the 
space provided.  
   
   
  As the lady squeezed her way in, she quietly smiled & mouthed a "Thank you 
very much". As she turned her back, I clearly saw him gesturing with a tilt of 
his head & saying in a quiet voice "These people dont know how to say 
thank-you."
   
   
  The man was clearly out of order, he knew this woman was in a vunerable 
position, with a child & a quiet, unassuming husband who had to remain 
standing, holding onto the surplus bags that were threatening to fall off the 
untidy pile, in case they fell down the gangway, struggling to not say anything 
in case anything he said was taken the wrong way or caused ill-feeling amongst 
the other passengers.  More or less accepting this old man's diatribe, feigning 
deafness the hubby looked away.
   
   
  Earlier that day I was in a conversation with one of my staff (a Polish 
female), who had just returned to work for us after an absence of 9 months (she 
left our employ to return back to Poland to continue her studies at 
University), but came back for a Summer Job as Bar Server & Waitress, when she 
remarked how kindly she was treated by Asian shopkeepers as opposed to the 
Whites which was totally different to the previous year when she was in the UK. 
She said she noticed this more now because she thought perhaps its was due to 
the number of Poles & other Eastern Europeans now in the UK looking for work, 
that the Brits must be angry for taking their jobs.  
   
   
  We discuss with the staff on their arrival & in-house training given to 
ensure they are capable of handling any delicate issues with some customers who 
ARE racialist, many at times can express bigotted views but very seldom have 
any issues been brought u

[Goanet] Pravesh Mayenkar wins U-7 Chess Tournament organised at Mustifund High School Panaji by TCA

[SHRIKANT BARVE]

Pravesh   wins U-7 Chess Tournament

Pravesh Mayenkar from Saraswat Vidhyalay, Khorlim win all five game to clinch 
All Goa U-7 chess tournament held at Mustifund High School, Panaji on July 20 
2008 organised by Taleigao Chess Academy (TCA). Tejas Takkekar of 
Dnyanprasarak, Mhapusa, Stanford Pereira of Vidhya Vihar, Cortalim scored 4 
points and stood 2nd and 3rd respectively on prograssive. Keiv Lopez of 
Kendriya Vidhylay Vasco came forth with 3.5 points. 20 students from 12 
different school from all over Goa took part in this tournament. But it was 
surprising to note that there were no participants from most prominant schools 
of Margao and following prominant school from panaji which are  Mustifund 
Primary School, Sharada Mandir,Peoples Primary School.

This event has given boost to our moto. Looking at number of participating 
schools we are confident that we will achive our goal of chess activity in 
every primary schools of Goa by 2011.  

Kumari Sunanda Choudhari prominant swimmer from Goa was the chief guest. She 
encourage children in her little speech and told them that she started swimming 
at the age of 2 and now she dreams to play in olympic and win first Gold Medal 
for India in Olympic. She gave away prizes to winners of All three Under 7 
Chess tournament held on May 24, June 22 and July 20 2008 as also Taleigao 
Chess Academy Students tournament and Under 14 chess tournament held on May 24 
and June 29 respectively.  

Manish Kamble President of TCA and Sanjay Barve Secretary TCA were on the 
deice. Mr. Pinhero capared the programe and gave vote of thanks. Shri Shravan 
Barve was the Arbiter. He was assisted by Anjankumar, Vinaya Parab and Sanmesh 
Kamble. 

Group Photo details
Back rank. Manish Kamble, Sunanda Choudhari, Sanjay Barve, Vinaya Parab, 
Anajankumar, Shravan Barve,
 Gouri Hadkonkar, Yadnesh, Tejan Takkekar(white T- shirt),  Keiv Lopes, Girish 
Kulkarni, Denver, Omkar, Josiah Rebbelo, Owais Shaikh, Sanmesh Kamble, Siddhi 
Ghadi,
 Sitting: Samved, Pravesh Mayekar(todays winner), Maithli, Adarsh, Mayuresh, 
Anishka, Nitya, Stanford, Sansruti, Puneet.


Shrikant Vinayak Barve



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[Goanet] Central University status for GU: for whom?

[Samir Kelekar]

>CENTRAL UNIVERSITY STATUS: For Whom? And At What Cost?
-by Jayant
>Shivaji Budkuley
jayantbudkuley >at 
rediffmail.com
>This article is a loud-thinking prompted by the news item
>reported in a section of press on 15th July 2008 regarding the proposed
>conversion of Goa University into a Central University. In my considered

Good article, but it only tangentially touches the issue of funding which
could be the main reason Goa govt. is allowing the univ to be made central.
(Btw, it is good that a committee has been formulated --- I really dont know 
however, if it is a genuine committe or the decision is already made
and the committee will just confirm it, which is the case most of the times.)

The problem is Narvekar, our finance minister, will allocate Rs. 12 crores
a year to be paid to a private broadband supplier. The reasons are clear.
He will also allocate a couple of crores to deploy CCTV cameras on our
highway. When I was Infotech Corporation of Goa director, Narvekar told
me that the budge for Infotech corporation is only 5 crores which he said is 
just enough for their salary and coffee!!! 

While Goa University, where faculty probably get a pittance of salary,
cannot be given a mere Rs. 15 crores. That is because there are no cuts
in that money.

And I just heard through some grapevine that our esteemed CM Digambar
Kamat has bought a building --- called Lotlikar Building near
erstwhile Raliway gate --- in Margao for Rs. 300 crores! Can someone
confirm this?

What should be done to these guys?

regards,
Samir



  

Re: [Goanet] Decoding the Surname

[JOHN MONTEIRO]

Hi Olga
   
  Thank you for the link, I was curious as to the meaning of my surname.  
During the first year of our marriage my wife Pamela asked me for the meaning 
of my surname, I had no idea (still whizzing about trying to find out where my 
dad went all those years ago) so I contacted one these commercial companies 
that make up heraldic shields, they search your surname & supply a "heraldic" 
theme to a framed certificate.  
   
  I got one of these framed certificates some 18 years ago, noting that 
"Monteiro" was deemed to mean a HUNTER in the employ of the Monarch, 
(allegedly), This would mean the PORTUGUESE MONARCHY & can be traced back to 5 
or 6 centuries when the then monarchs used to hunt with dogs, 
birds/hawks/falcons & on horse-back with other 'hunting tools', such as 
rods/spears & arrows etc.  
   
  The Monteiro or Hunter was in charge of the hunting animals, hunting 
equipment & arranging the gaming for the Monarch. The areas were very hilly / 
moutainous so I wondered if there was a mix between Monte (for Hill) and 
Moneiro (for Hunter), in your listings, or perhaps a combination, or could it 
be a typo? 
   
  I saw that Selma's surname (from hubby no doubt) was about right, an Oak 
Tree. However one of my father's (middle names) Teles meaning Saddle Cloth, was 
right on the nose, ha ha.
   
   
  Gracious Hunter... aka John (Joao) Monteiro
   
   
  
--

Olga Maciel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Meanings of surnames
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MangaloreanCatholics/message/2870
   
  
-



Regards
  John Monteiro  

[Goanet] World Damao Day to be celebrated world wide on 20th, August. - Your support is needed

[[Edu's World]]

Dear All

World Damao Day  will be celebrated World wide on 20th, August. Please visit
the WDD site on

 http://web.mac.com/noelgama/wdd08/World_Daman_Day.html

I would like you to forward me pictures taken by you on Daman. You may also
forward family photos if you like . Please make sure to include names of the
memeber of your family, relatives or friends.

Recipes from Daman are also welcomed.

All photos, recipes and other stuff will then be  then be uploaded on the
WDD site.

You can find the coordinators for their respective countries by clicking on
the  *" Contact us "* Link on the WDD site..

Please support this site and event in what ever way you can to make it a
success.


God Bless and have a nice day

Edward Lopes


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Re: [Goanet] Evaluating the Past

[Gilbert Lawrence]

Hi Miguel,
 
Your message below with the "Mog asundi" was very touching.  Likely you have 
given this (mercy not sacrifice) a deep thought.  So let me ask your (and 
anybody else who would like to volunteer their) opinion. This is a special 
invitation to attorneys and those in the law-and-order (police) field. 
 
A 30 year old male robber breaks into your home. He steals the jewelry, 
physically assaults a member of your family and flees.  The robber is caught 
and confesses to the crime.  His guilt is beyond doubt.
 
What would be your suggestions as to the appropriate punishment for this 
robber? Please provide the punishment options in decreasing order of 
preference.  No long explanations needed.  This is not a trick question and the 
answers need not be tricky or complicated.
 
Thanks in anticipation to you (and others) for your cooperation.
Regards, GL
 
 
- Miguel Braganza 

"But  go and learn what it means 'I will have mercy and not sacrifice'; for I 
have not come to call the righteous but the sinners to repentance." Matthew 
9:13 New Testament   Mog asundi. Miguel

Re: [Goanet] Bridge over trouble community relations

[Carvalho]

--- On Sun, 7/20/08, edward desilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Definition of 'cantankerous':  unwilling to
> cooperate.
> How can Goanetters who read half truths, with not much
> thought put into the article written, just sit tight and
> say nothing?
> If Indians find it difficult to live within their own
> community, how the hell does one expect to live on their
> own within a predominately white community?
> I have tried and failed, they said I was big headed.
> Now that the UK Police have been shamed by the
> 'Lawrence Inquiry' that they are Institutionally
> Racist and still are to a degree, the mood of the Indians
> have mellowed.
> Reason? The whites are not getting 'the blind
> support' from the police as before.
> But the facts have to be put forward (like it or not).
> ED.

Ed,
If I had called the UK racist, I would be skewered on Goanet. So it is good to 
hear someone being honest and frank about the society they live in. I wonder if 
other UK Goans share your feelings or if you are alone in this. I am yet too 
new in the UK to have an opinion either way. My post was on America.


selma


  

[Goanet] Goa University

[Dr. U. G. Barad]

The reality prevailing in India Today is either Congress or BJP, in
coalition, ruling India! 

If congress comes to power we have Arjun Singh and if BJP comes to power, we
get Murli Manohar Joshi as HRD minister, both working in their own unique
style to establish their own standings in their respective Cabinet - and yet
they did not succeed in their attempt! - but created turbulence in EDUCATION
system!  
 
Such problems related to EDUCATION, I think could be BEST solved, as
required, if some ombudsman type regulatory body overlooks the politics in
Education. Equally, we need a search committee for appointing Minister of
HRD instead of political compulsions deciding about the appointee.

In 1987, Goa Government had decided to let Goa University be a STATE
UNIVERSITY - When it was asked to choose THE OPTION for Goa University
Status. ALL GOANS WELCOMED that decision. 

Surprisingly, after two decades, one politician and 2 -3 intellectuals of
Goa, created history THAT TOO without consultative process, recommending
Center to up grade existing Goa University to Central University status! On
this issue I would like to pose one blunt question: Is Goa University and
its 179 Hectors of land a private property of these 3 - 4 individuals? 

Why Government of India (to be read as MHRD) wants this conversion done?

I feel, it's mostly to reduce the level of funding and get millage out of
it. It is like having the cake and eating it too - for MHRD will get ready
infrastructure plus have the benefit of propaganda CAMPUS during elections
(which is going to take place in one year time).
 
The idea of converting existing university into a Central University is a
PLITICAL MASTER STROKE but academically UNWISE. 

I FEEL reasons are as follows:

1. An existing university has some traditions and practices. While
inheriting good points is good, the baggage also comes with contaminations.
I believe our old universities have heavier baggages of the latter types and
these cannot be eliminated easily.

2. As opposed to this Goa University has to create its traditions and
practices and can draw from experiences gained from other existing
universities and carefully steer clear from the contaminations of the kind I
mentioned in point 1.

I feel this proposal of converting an EXISTING UNIVERSITY.IS a big CHEATING
to SUSEGAD Goan (Are they???). What a shame .POLITICIANS have even
dragged our students to their GAME LEVEL...??/

Hi...Sel..Ro..including our famous J  metric failed ...Md passedLL.
B achieved...are most welcomed to pour in their intellectual inputs, but
don't forget to send your CONTRIBUTION in the BOX awaiting your feeding to
the cause.if you CANNOT CONTRIBUTE TO CAUSE . JUST SHUT UP.we
don't need your inputs and ..equally your non-contributing intellectuals
ONTHIS SUBJECT. 
 
DON'T YOU TINK YOU HAVE TO THINK before you KEY IN MESSAGES TO GOANET on the
issue of Goa University!!

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad

[Goanet] Compromised position on Goanet

[edward desilva]

Selma wrote:
Of late there seems to be more than the usual cantankerous moods.Is it really 
worth posting in a compromised state?selma 
-
Definition of 'cantankerous':  unwilling to cooperate.
How can Goanetters who read half truths, with not much thought put into the 
article written, just sit tight and say nothing?
If Indians find it difficult to live within their own community, how the hell 
does one expect to live on their own within a predominately white community?
I have tried and failed, they said I was big headed.
Now that the UK Police have been shamed by the 'Lawrence Inquiry' that they are 
Institutionally Racist and still are to a degree, the mood of the Indians have 
mellowed.
Reason? The whites are not getting 'the blind support' from the police as 
before.
But the facts have to be put forward (like it or not).
ED.




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Re: [Goanet] Bridge over trouble community relations

[Carvalho]

--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ed Silva wrote: 
> > People like you are called COCONUTS.
> > Brown outside White inside.
> > You think you are white because of your religion (so
> does
> > the average Indian in India).
> > ED.
> --
Dear Ed,
Thank you for your feedback. 

America is a salad bowl of cultures. You don’t have to assimilate but 
personally I feel integrated societies are more beneficial to mankind. There 
are many ways to interact, through volunteering in a social activity, donating, 
helping out in a national crisis, attending community events or simply making 
the effort. A human being cut off from the affairs of his immediate community 
is an island, ultimately impairing his own sense of worth, belonging and 
well-being.

selma

Re: [Goanet] Compromised position on Goanet

[Gabe Menezes]

2008/7/20 Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I have this joke with myself that I want all the Goans from Goa to the Gulf, 
> to UK to US, gunning for me. After that I will hope my husband gets an 
> assignment in Sweden, where I will have only Alfred Tavares to write about :-)

> Is it really worth posting in a compromised state?
>
> selma

RESPONSE: In short, No! Next question please :-)); Am off to the Tivim
Feast, Cip has informed me that he will be attending, so today we
should have a beer together.

Life is too short, to worry endlessly, what others might think of
you...get on with it and as the English might say 'sod off'

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London.

[Goanet] Compromised position on Goanet

[Carvalho]

I have this joke with myself that I want all the Goans from Goa to the Gulf, to 
UK to US, gunning for me. After that I will hope my husband gets an assignment 
in Sweden, where I will have only Alfred Tavares to write about :-)

But jokes aside, lately I've been feeling compromised on Goanet. When one has 
been on this site for a couple of years, one develops friendships or at least 
unofficial allies. People who've sided with you in the past, supported your 
point of view or generally been kind and affable. It becomes very hard to voice 
arguments against these people and still maintain friendship. (Perhaps Roland 
and Frederick are the only two I can think of, where I've succeeded and even 
there I wouldn't want to push the envelope).

Then there are abusive posters who you simply want to keep away from or have 
been warned to keep away from. There are last wordists, the I'll 
take-everything-personally, the I'm going-to-be-contrary for the sake of it, 
the I'll drag-past-history-or-personal-insults into the mix.  Which pretty soon 
covers the whole of Goanet including me. You decide not to respond to these 
posts, including my own :-) Of late there seems to be more than the usual 
cantankerous moods.

Is it really worth posting in a compromised state?

selma 




  

[Goanet] Central University Status for GU: for whom? and at what cost? by: Dr. Jayant Budkuley-Ex-Registrar GU - goasuraj COMMENTS

[goasuraj]

CENTRAL UNIVERSITY STATUS: For Whom? And At What Cost?
   -by Jayant
Shivaji Budkuley
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   This article is a loud-thinking prompted by the news item
reported in a section of press on 15th July 2008 regarding the proposed
conversion of Goa University into a Central University. In my considered
opinion, if this move is finalized, it is going to spell disaster to the
coming generation of students from the State. I would like to share my views
and anxieties about this with the destiny shapers and the destiny makers of
this state. But before that I would like to refresh the memory of my
generation which has been the privileged witness to the history of post
liberation Goa because, "those who forget their history are condemned to
repeat it". Undeniably, the future growth and distinct development for any
state lies in its institutions of higher learning.

SOME BACKGROUND:

The liberation of Goa on 19 December 1961 marked much more than just the
political freedom from foreign rule for the common man (and woman) of Goa.
More than anything, it proved to be a huge boon to the aspiring middle class
youth of the State. They had the priorities of education on the chart of
their ambition but not the means of realizing them. For a generation that
had needed a 'passport' to go to India even to appear for the secondary
school examination, liberation brought the facility of higher education to
their doorstep and encouraged them to fulfill their dreams.
It was due to the social commitment and vision of great Goan philanthropists
such as Padmashri Late Shri Vasantrao S. Dempo, Shri. Vishvasrao D.
Chowgule, Late Shri Dayanand Bandodkar and others, collegiate education was
made available in North and South Goa for the young aspirants as early as
from June 1962. The Diocesan Society was to follow suit with another
much-needed college in North Goa. Within a few years, the first Women's
college made its appearance in South Goa. All these colleges were Arts and
Science Colleges to begin with, but the Goan visionaries soon responded to
the need for discipline of Commerce too.
With the passage of time, not just the educated and the affluent class, but
also the youngsters from the less privileged strata of the society began to
reap the benefits of higher education. Within a decade, the 'first
generation learners' had thronged to these new temples of learning for
collegiate education. Side by side, concerted efforts of dedicated
educationists like Shri Vasant Joshi, Late Shri V. M. Salgaoncar and others,
along with several new Educational Societies, brought collegiate education,
both professional and non-professional, within the reach of the needy  and
the aspiring.
Special mention has to be made of that great philanthropist and visionary
Late Shri Dayanand Bandodkar, the first Chief Minister of Goa (Daman and
Diu) with regard to the commendable clarity and range of his perspective on
education. While financially helping many needy and promising youngsters for
higher education in reputed institutions outside Goa and abroad, he realized
the necessity of upgrading the Goa Medical College (the first in Asia) and
the urgency of starting an Engineering College in Goa. The two educational
monuments at Bambolim and Farmagudi respectively stand a testimony to his
vision.

The third campus meant for the University, which was initially planned at
the well-developed Kundai Plateau was delayed and ultimately took shape at
Taleigao Plateau. This delay was expected and necessary: the University was
to be the culmination of the aspirations of a people coming into their own
after 450 years of foreign rule and alien education policy.
When Goa University was to be established, deliberations and discussions on
its likely nature and form had been going on since 1970 among prominent
educationists, industrialists, social activists, politicians and student
leaders. In all these discussions, the idea that the university should be
retained under the state jurisdiction and that its objectives should be
consistent with the graph of growth intended for an all-round development of
the future State and its people, had been predominantly aired. These
objectives prominently figure in the Goa University Act. Significantly, Goa
was then a Union Territory along with Daman and Diu and hence had the option
to prefer a Central University, if desired. Yet, the Goa University,
representing the dreams of Goans, was established as a State University on
30th June 1985.

UNIVERSITY TODAY:
Those closely associated with the Goa University since inception and so
having been witness to its growth can confidently say that the
University -not withstanding its limitations-has created a niche for itself
in this region of the country. Specifically speaking of the discipline of
Chemistry to which I belong (and can therefore confidently cite as an
illus

[Goanet] Panic attack ... or first signs of wisdom?

[Philip Thomas]

Today's Times of India has a story headlined "Dabolim's closure will hit
economy: Its fate has given rise to mixed reactions". This seems to be a
fall out of the Herald report (see my post of July 18th).  The TOI report,
which highlights the views of some people in high places, is a stark
illustration of the onset of either a panic attack or the dawning of some
wisdom, however faint. Curtorim MLA Reginald Lourenco (probably an ally of
Churchill Alemao, PWD Minister) says flatly
 that "Dabolim will be shut down" (despite the CM's call for two airports in
Goa?). The report doesnt offer his reasoning  which could back up his claim.

Meanwhile, Jose Philip D'Souza the Vasco MLA says " [Dabolim's] closure is
unthinkable and absurd". He may be in for a huge surprise unless he gets on
the learning curve of airport development in India (more about this later).
However, Cortalim MLA Mauvin Godinho, Deputy Speaker, is relying on the
'insurance' of Rs 480 crores upgradation funds promised for Dabolim. "There
is no question of even speculating [on] Dabolim's closure." He too may be in
for a big surprise.

This is because the pumping in of big sums for the upgradation of HAL
airport in Bangalore did not deter the government a all from signing on the
dotted line to close it when the new airport was ready. Despite protests
from the end of last year, this closure was effected at the end of May 2008
just as Hyderabad's Begumpet was closed in March. The developers had
water-tight legal papers.

It turns out that, (according to AAI, no less), HAL's capacity was a
whopping 7.5 million passengers per annum, not the piddling 3.8 million
claimed by the new airport developer (which has begun with only about 10
million).  HAL airport is practically a ghost town now. What a waste of
valuable airport capacity when there is air space congestion all around! The
people of the Vasco area like Godinho, D'souza and Lourenco, should be very
worried. And those of the rest of Goa too.

As for Dabolim, it has a 3000 m jumbo jet runway. Who invested in its
extension over the years from 2000 m in the 1960s? What will it be used for
if it is closed? The occasional VIP flights for a Goa holiday! And of course
the daily training flights of jets which are supposed to operate from 300 m
carrier decks! Who knows, one day an Indian space shuttle may land at
Dabolim since it would be lying unused!

What is the way out? The TOI report says "Churchill Alemao [is] in his
mission to ensure Dabolim  airport does not close". So far (since 2005) this
been nothing other than blocking Mopa airport from seeing the light of day.
He may be taking a more enlightened view now although one cant be too sure
of such a thing from him. Perhaps he accepts that the government is
committed to two airports. What he has to ensure is that Mopa does not lead
to Dabolim's closure by default.

This can happen for the following reasons described in my July 18 post. 

So all should push for a regional airport at Mopa. This will not duplicate
Dabolim's traffic (and vacuum it away) but rather supplement/expand it in
Goa's interest. The initial investment will not be outlandish but there
would be a need to expand, upgrade, invest etc every few years as traffic
(hopefully) grows. (This means the required/available Mopa land has to be
securely "banked" for the future).

Meanwhile Dabolim would also upgrade and invest (hopefully a bit more
speedily than in the past when constraints were pronounced). And the planned
highway or expresway development would proceed at its own pace, with maximum
quality and minimum corruption. This is the way forward. As mentioned
previously people have to be able to view (and shape) the venture in a
"win-win" way (not "my rival  is benefitting so I should oppose").

The problem is that this represents a paradigm shift from the way (two)
airports have been developed in India so far. Will Goa have the intellectual
and managerial firepower to push the new paradigm through?  What the Goa CM
said, "When there are two airports, let the airlines exercise the option
where to land their aircraft", may be exactly the WRONG thing (except in
aviation emergencies) and does not inspire confidence! The sooner it gets on
the proper aviation learning curve, and moves fast on it, the better for
Goa --- and even India!

[Goanet] Decoding the Surname

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Meanings of surnames
 
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[Goanet] Decoding the Surname

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 Decoding the Surname 

By Prajal Sakhardande

Goan surnames have a deep-rooted history. Following conversions, the Hindus and 
Muslims of Goa acquired new Portuguese surnames. Many of the Christian families 
in Goa have traced their original Hindu surnames. Many have shown keen interest 
in finding their roots in their Hindu ancestry. It is very interesting. For 
example, my colleague and teacher Dr Zinia Sequeira Lobo D’Silva has traced 
her original Hindu surname to Kamat. In the year 1596, the Dangui family of 
Banavlim or Benaulim village of the Salcette taluka were converted to 
Christianity and were given a new surname - Pereira.

Mention is made of the son of Mhallu Dangui who was converted to Antonio 
Pereira. A senior friend of mine from Benaulim goes by the same name and traces 
his Hindu ancestry to the surname Dangui. Some Portuguese surnames of Goans 
have very interesting etymologies for example the surname Coelho means a rabbit 
in Portuguese. The surname Pimenta is pepper (chilly), Pinheiro is pine tree in 
Portuguese and Pinho is pine.

The very popular Portuguese Goan surname Pinto means chick while Oliveira means 
olive tree. In Portuguese the surname Alemao means German. Costa simply means 
Coast. The surname Lobo means a wolf in Portuguese, Leitao means suckling 
pigling, Caldeira means boiler, the surname Carvalho means an Oak tree. Velho 
stands for old man or old woman. Sardinha stands for Sardine.

The surname Rocha means a rock. Topography, flora and fauna seem to be 
reflected in these surnames. In Goa too we have surnames depicting nature, for 
example we have surnames like Ambe (mango), Sakhardande (sugarcane), Kande 
(onions), Bhende (ladyfingers) amongst others.

Coming back to the Portuguese Goan surnames, Mesquita means a mosque. This 
surname might have etymological roots in the Arab connection with the Iberian 
Peninsula of which Spain and Portugal are a part. For example in Konkani we 
address the Muslims as “Moir” corrupted version of the word “Moor” 
which stands for Arabs as the Portuguese addressed them. We adopted this word 
in Konkani for the Goan Muslims.

Due to the Arab rule over Portugal, Arabic words such as Kameez for a shirt was 
adopted and corrupted to Khomis in Portuguese which was also introduced in 
Konkani is one side of the story of linguistic exchange.
These are very interesting historical linguistic exchanges whose etymological 
roots are deeply rooted in the political and socio-cultural heritage of the 
nations and peoples. Thus the travel or journey of a simple Arabic word Kameez 
or the Portuguese word Camisa which means shirt might have had the more 
plausible vice-versa exchange as the Arabs never wore a shirt which the 
Portuguese wore and when the Arabs conquered the Iberian peninsula and ruled 
Spain and Portugal they borrowed this word Camisa from the Portuguese and 
adopted it for their famous dress Salwar Kameez. Thus we find that etymology is 
the key to history.

In the coming weeks let us dig deep into the history of Goan surnames, 
linguistic exchanges and cultural inheritance.

Source: NT

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