[Goanet] Centre okays greenfield airport in Sindhudurg (ET)
The Centre on Thursday approved a domestic airport for Sindhudurg district, which borders Goa. The proposed greenfield airport would come within just about 100 km north of Goa's congested Dabolim airport - which is mainly for the navy... in response to the state government's proposal to set up a Rs 492-crore domestic airport at Sindhudurg through the public-private-partnership route...For the project, 271 hectares [670 acres] of non-agricultural land owned by the state government have already been identified. It is strange that no attempt was made during the past one year (since the ICAO okay for two airports in Goa) to recast Mopa airport along the lines of Sindhudurg even if the ultimate objective for Mopa was an international airport of 1800 acres. It shows the unfortunate extent of rigidity in the civil aviation ministry's and Goa government's thinking which does not bode well for mega projects. This should have been easy given the ready availability of computer software for assessing numerous options nowadays. It also poses questions about the applicability of the 150 km separation rule. If Mopa was subject to that (as a result of which the Cabinet resolution was passed in 2000) then why not Sindhudurg? Why was Mopa slated to be an international airport way back in 1998/2000 when Dabolim was (and still is) only getting charter flights that too averaging a few flights per day and that too during season. There are no scheduled international direct flights worth speaking of. The only aim seems to have been to hand Dabolim civil enclave back to the military (as was done in Kochi and subsequently in Bangalore and Hyderabad) if not by fiat then by default (due to the natural shift of airlines to a better and hopefully well connected airport in Mopa). The Sindhudurg plan opens the way for a more convenient (domestic) airport for Bangalore (assuming HAL stays closed) located just across the border in Karnataka. Goa government needs to pull up its socks and apply its mind to these issues for Goa's sake.
[Goanet] Of Language, Script and Panic. by Tomazinho Cardoz
Dears, The article below appeared in the GT page A8 on 03 September, 2008. It was followed on 05 Sept. by a Letter to the Editor by Professor Sebastiao Mariano Borges objecting to the date of DKA formation and placing it on 28 August, 1988 [instead of 1989 stated by Tomazinho] at a function held in Margao. Perhaps, SMB is right. He writes for the GULAB magazine that was founded by Fr. Freddy Da Costa, the first DKA President. That Gulab and SMB promote Devanagri while writing in Roman script is just one of the many ironies of Konkani. Both, Tomazinho and SMB, are members of the GKA and have co-authored the compilation of Konkani Orthography published by GKA recently, perhaps in an effort to prepare Catholic Goans to switch over to Devanagri as if teaching Antruzi Konkani in Devanagri SCRIPT in 126 Diocesan primary schools, 72 GPS and 5 Hindu management primary schools was not enough to help the poor Catholics [Bhandaris and Lamanis who study in these schools] was not enough. The proximity perhaps increases the friction. Some sparks are inevitable. Prof. S M Borges does not seem to have made the transition to Devanagri that he talks about. He continues to write Konkani in Roman script. Sermanv somestank, onnienk nhoi! Mog asundi. Miguel --- On Fri, 5/9/08, tomazinho cardozo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of Language, Script and Panic. ♂ Tomazinho Cardozo All of a sudden,the language controversy of Goa surfaced in the Goa Legislative Assembly in a big way. The MLAs expressed their opinions as per their thinking. Some demanded equal status to Roman Script Konkani along with Devnagori script Konkani and some others felt that Konkani in Roman script and Marathi should be accorded equal status along with Konkani in Devnagori script. The Chief Minister, Shri Digamber Kamat assured the house that he would convene a meeting of all the stakeholders and make efforts to reach to a concensus in order to solve the language issue once for all. Can a consensus take place on an issue like this? For me it is practically impossible. But certainly one important thing that will take place is everyone will be in a position to expresss their views face to face which can go a long way in preparing a congenial atmosphere as far as language issue in Goa is concerned. Nevertheless, I see a kind of panic among the p[rotogonists of Devnagori script. This is because, besides leveling unfounded allegations against the protoganists of Konkani in Roman script, as reported, they have threatened to create a terror in the state if any one tries to amend the Goa Official Language Act of 1987. Do we live in a democracy? ＆Why did it take 20years to demand equal status to Konkani in Roman Script.?＊- is their first question. Yes, it took 20 years to know about the exact ＆hidden agenda＊ of the leaders in Devnagori script. The hidden agenda was to wipe out Konkani in Roman script from the Goan soil. In fact, the agitation for demanding equal status to Konkani in Roman script started when Dalgado Konknni Akademi was established in 1989 that is just after two years and not 20 years. It became intense during the last 8 years because Romi script protagonists realized that Konkani in Devnagori script has not succeeded in uniting Goans at all. It is alleged that the Goan Catholic Community is pro western and even the masses in the churches are now taking place in English. This allegation is to say that Catholic community is not interested in Konkani at all. It is not only Goan Catholic community but also the Goan Hindu community pampers English in public life. Scrutinize the life styles of Hindu community too. Every one, Hindus as well as Christians, today are pro-English and the reasons for that are well known to us. In 95% of the churches in Goa, there might be only one mass in English as against masses ranging from 8 to 25, in Konkani, as per the population of a parish, in a week. Till date all religious services in Catholic churches take place in Konkani in Roman script. Leaders of Devnagori lipi have no moral right to open their mouths about the use of English in Christian religious services because they do not conduct their religious services in Konkani. They allege that Roman script for Konkani will de-nationalize Goans. Rubbish! Nationalism and patriotism are values of our lives. Values cannot be taught, it should be caught. Hence no script and not even the language, including a foreign script and a foreign language, can influence these values. Yes, the content of the matter given through any language, including foreign language, can play some role in the formation of values. Therefore inculcation of values in us does not depend on Roman script at all. It solely depends on the behaviour and character of our parents, friends, teachers, society, etc., whose influence shapes our lives. And what righ do these leaders have to allege that Roman
[Goanet] Gratuitous advice on returning to Goa
The decision to emigrate or return must remain an intensely personal matter that one discusses with one's near and dear and not on a public forum like goanet. Else you get armchair recommendations from those firmly entrenched outside Goa (in Dubai?) about the merits of returning !! By his own admission the questioner has agonised over the decision to return after two years of internal family debate. It is absurd for him to seek general public advice and even more absurd for members to dispense with such advice especially when it is contrary to their own choices.
[Goanet] Togadia to conduct Orissa 'yatra' despite SC objection
Times of India, 4 Sep 2008 Togadia to conduct Orissa 'yatra' despite SC objection NEW DELHI: Facing flak from the Supreme Court over his proposed 'yatra' across Orissa with the ashes of slain VHP functionary Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati, Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) leader Pravin Togadia on Thursday said a 'yatra' condoling the murder will still be carried out. The dead body of Swamiji was not cremated. His was a samadhi and he was buried. So the claims of the 'asthi-kalash yatra' are not true. However, we will condole his death by a yatra across the state, said Togadia. We will march through every village and town of Orissa despite the pressure tactics of the Christians to ensure safety of Swami Laxmanada's murderers, he said. Togadia said over phone that he never proposed to carry the ashes of Saraswati and alleged that Archbishop Raphael Cheenath had lied under oath to the apex court. The VHP leader did not specify any date for his 'yatra' but said it will be conducted in a peaceful manner. Earlier, in response to a query yesterday by the apex court, the state government today stated before the court in an affidavit that it will not allow Togadia to conduct any 'yatra' with the ashes of the slain VHP leader. -- Question everything -- Karl Marx
[Goanet] SON'VARACHIM SUNGTTAM: Konknnicho Jiv Romi Lipint Asa !
www.goa-world.com SON'VARACHIM SUNGTTAM: Konknnicho Jiv Romi Lipint Asa ! -Jose Salvador Fernandes Gõyant Rajbhas Kaido pas zalear 20 vorsancho kall somplo. Torui hea Rajbhas Kaideacho vadacho vixoi ravon-ravon apli tokli voir kaddta. Kiteak to Kaido, romivaleank fottoun devnagori lipi khatir pas kela. Hea kaideant Morattik-ui khoim tori zago diun, bhaxecho vad sasnnacho sompoila. Dekhun, aiz Gõyant Rajbhaxechea nanvan zo vad cholta to bhaxavad nhoi, punn lipivad hench khorem. Rajbhaxechea nanvan ho lipivad suru zata tednam, devnagorivaleank gham' suttonk lagta. Kiteak? Rajbhas Kaideant tannim Romicher adarlole onitichim bhutam tanchech mukhar bhirankull ritin nachunk lagtat. Konn-ui sarkoch bhiyeta tednam tankam konnacho tori adar- sangat zai poddta. Oslea adara khatir he muttbhor lok, potrokar-porixod gheun aple bhirantik lokacho sangat sodtat. Osurokxechi (insecurity) khunna hi! Rajbhas Kaideant Romi lipicher onit zalea hachi Devnagarivaleank bhorpur khobor asa. Tantuntle unchlea podancher aslole monis-ui hem guptim mandun ghetat, punn ugteponnim sangonk fattim sortat. Kiteak tankam aplea sangateamni 'boycott' kelole nakat. Na zalear, aiz te he oniti vixim ugteponnim uloitole ani boroitole asle. Rajbhas Kaideant Devnagori lipicho ul'lekh korun pas zait porian, devnagarivaleank atam dista - Konknniche romintlean uzvadda yeupi sahit'yak dorzo na. Tancho konn eklo mhonnta- Romi Konknni hi ek poripurnn bhas mhonnun ghevpachi tank ticheant asa kai kitem hacher kholayen obhess zaunk zai. Konknnik bhas mhunn tigoun dovorpachi romi lipint tank asa dekhunuch, Gõyant aiz Konknni urlea hem sot konnuch nakarunk xokona. Dusrem, Konknnik bhas mhunn samballun dovorpacho gunn romi lipint asa dekhunuch, sorkarachi matui mozot nastana Rrmi lipi azun meren jiti-jivi asa, ani tantuntlean khub bori Konknnichi seva zata. Devnagori vangdda romik-ui Rajbhas Kaideant zago dil'lo zalear, aiz 20 vorsam uprant devnagarik konn ungon legit pollevpacho naslo tacho tankam poiloch vas ailolo. Rajbhas Kaideant romikuch zago melltolo mhunn tyag korun rostear ailolea lokak xevott meren Rajbhas khuinche lipintlean pas zatoli hem tannim sangunk na. Devnagorintlean pas zatoli oxem sanglolem zalear tankam lokacho tenko mellchona, ani Konknni Porjecho Avaz (KPA) hache khatir Gulfantlea Gõykarancho pan-duddu-i mellchona mhunn tankam khobor asli. Rajbhas Kaideant Konknnik Devnagorichi saddi nhesoili dekhun, nagrivaleank atam apunn sorgar aslolea porim bhogta. Ani heach sorgar ravun tankam dista - Romi, romi mhonnpeam kodden Konknni Sahit'yak kitem tori ghosghoxit divpachi tank asa oxem mhaka disonam. Mhonnche, hi tank fokot devnagorikuch asa oxem zalem na? Punn Sahit'ya Akademiche Puroskar favlolea pustokanchi volleri kaddun pollelear, tantuntlim thoddim pustokam to puroskar favo nhoi toslim asat. Tantum koslem ghosghoxit sahit'ya asa tor? Toxem polleunk gelear, Konknnichea mollar Sahit'ya Akademiche puroskar mellpi pustokant 'ghosghoxit' sahit'ya asunkuch zai oxem na. Kiteak, fuddlea panch vorsank konnak to puroskar diuncho hem adinch tharailolem asta. Rajbhas Kaideant romi lipi zago na te vixinchem 'justification' diunche khatir, Gõychea Konknni Bhaxa Mondollache odhikari ek veglli bhas ulounk lagleat. Tanche sangnne pormannem, Romi lipichi zotnai Goa Konknni Akademintlean (GKA) zata ani Dalgado Konknni Akademik (DKA) sorkara koddchean onudan mellta. Toxem pollunk gelear, Bhaxa Mondoll hem bhaxe khatir asa, lipi khair nhoi. Bhaxechea Mondollan bhaxeche nodrentlean vichar korpachi goroz asta, lipiche nodrentlean nhoi. Hem Bhaxa Mondoll Konknni pustokank sahit'ya puroskar ditana, lipicho bhed-bhav korinastana Romi pustokank legit inam'dita. Zalear, tech Romik nitin Rajbhas Kaideant zago divpacho vixoi ieta, tednam hea Bhaxa Mondollan Romi lipi sovem aplo dusvas kiteak dakouncho? Bhaxa Mondoll hem Romi lipintlea pustokak vorsantlean ek pavtt puroskarachem lolipop diun apunn Romi lipicher onit korina oxem tanchem mon zait. Toxem zalear, tech Romi lipik Rajbhas Kaideant ghalpacho vell ieta tednam Bhaxa Mondollachi Romicher onit kiteak? Vo, Romi lipik vorsantlean ek pavtt puroskar diun Romi lipichi apunn zotnai gheta oxem Bhaxa Mondollak dista kai? Hem tor khorem asot zalear, hea Bhaxa Mondollachea odhikareamni ek gozal ghott monant dovorchi – fattlim 21 vorsam Konknniche Romi lipik sorkara koddchean koslench onudan, mozot, Sahit'ya Akademiche ani her puroskar, ani aiz Konknniche Devnagori lipik ani Morattik Rajbhas Kaideant jitlim sompeponnam ani sovloteo melltat, toslem kainch ek mellunk na….. torui Romi lipi azun-ui jiti-jivi asa, ani bhouch promannan gollta. Hachem khoreponn Konknniche Romi lipintlean uzvadda yeupi potram-masikantlean thavem zata. Gõychea Konknni Bhaxa Mondollan hacher barik-sarik niyall korun, ani lipi poros bhaxeche udorgoticheruch aplem mon ghalun vavurpachi goroz asa. Lipichea
[Goanet] Think of it as What would you do if it was your Brother
Dear Every one, My name is Chandrakanth, I am married to a gril from Siolim, Bardez. Our wedding took place at the Siolim chaple opposite to Holy Cross Convent on 16 January, 1998. Both my wife and myself led a normal life of course with all the sugar and spice and some bitter pills that comes with the married life, I was working and earning well, as some of us less fortunates would have it I lost my well paying job and had to make do with a job with meager salary. And to be very honest was just not able to get back to the normal stream of good jobs, during this period things kept getting bad with our relationship, she would fight and stop talking to me for months to gather. This went on for 3 years, I finally was on my feet after gathering some courage started a small business that of doing PR (media) and started also doing some events with corporates, it all seemed well till the end of December 2006 when we both went and spent time in her parents place for the Christmas and New year and now after so many years she agreed to start a family (I mean having a Child) this was in October that year. I WAS REALLY ON TOP OF THE WORLD I really mean every single sound of what I am saying. After we returned from Goa on the 3rd Jan, it was all going well, on the 8th or 9th she picked up a small matter and quarlled with me and that was the end it was all over she never spoke to me, she never cooked for me and started treating me like I was some paying guest in my own house. I felt this too was going to get ok after sometime but never to be even after 5 months, now I had to do something about it at the same time my business started to slump, one can imagine what I was going through. I one day confronted and had big arrgument, that day she started demanding me saying that show me so much money (it was some lakhs) it would be stupied to mention the amount here. How could any one with no business and who is trying to get the family in order have that kind of money and that too within a week or 15 days that she mentioned I don't exactly remember. After some convincing from one of our naigbhour she agreed to be reasonable but not really. I was still not able to talk to her like as in normal course. Once again I had to confront but this time it was my bad luck, she had already made some well thought moves like she had informed people like womens organisiation the leader of whose brother was a noted politician and had some good connection with the police etc. The day after the second confrontation they along with one of her sister and a family counciler who we visited landed up at our house and started saying that she has to go out of our house. I put my foot down and said that she will not go any where from here, after long arrgument our counciler suggested that she go to her mothers place for a week so that things could get better. I felt it was a good choice, I thought the mother would atleast help us settle our issues. I was fooled here the mother instead of helping the daughter set right the home, started to tell me to forget her daughter.. that was the end she never returned to me, just one day on the 9th June she came with some cops and took her things and left, even after I begged of her not leave. I have not signed any annulment papers or any thing of that sort, because no matter what ever we have gone through or has happned I would like to take it as one experience of life. But I still love her very much and I am waiting for her return. I can now say this because now I am working in one of the largest company in Muscat, Oman and with very good salary and status. I just got to know that she is currently in U.A.E. and is getting married on Monday. 8 Sept. 2008 in Sharjah to some American. IS this right what ever she is doing?? I any way not asking for your judgement.. I am asking all you people here to help me get her back in my life because I want to give her everything that she desired from me and want to prove to her that my love to her is not a fake one but because of what ever bad times one goes through that all this had happend. I know you would ask why have you not done anything so far or not spoken to her family. I have been trying all possible ways to get my wife back in my life. So Please: If any one out here feels I am worth your help. Please call me on 00968 9950 2434. -- With best wishes regards Chandrakanth. N. S
[Goanet] Headline - A gentleman's guide to managing the ill-mannered
Dear GOANET, You have been sent this article link by Ruby Goes courtesy of smh.com.au Personal Message: HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND GOANET. It's raining here too. And it's chill and untropical. Cheers, rubygoes A gentleman's guide to managing the ill-mannered Richard Glover September 6, 2008 To view the entire article, click on: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/09/05/1220121499123.html Sign up for news updates from The Sydney Morning Herald newsroom emailed each morning and afternoon: http://smh.com.au/newsletters/subscription.html Visit http://smh.com.au for updated local and world news, sports results, entertainment news and reviews and the latest technology information.
[Goanet] Headline - Old boy calls school a pedophile paradise
Dear GOANET, You have been sent this article link by Ruby Goes courtesy of smh.com.au Personal Message: For your information. rubygoes Old boy calls school a pedophile paradise Damien Murphy September 6, 2008 To view the entire article, click on: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/09/05/1220121526764.html Sign up for news updates from The Sydney Morning Herald newsroom emailed each morning and afternoon: http://smh.com.au/newsletters/subscription.html Visit http://smh.com.au for updated local and world news, sports results, entertainment news and reviews and the latest technology information.
[Goanet] From the printing press (formerly Imprensa Nacional)
A set of photos from the Government Printing Press, Goa ... formerly the Imprensa Nacional: http://flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/sets/72157607056595260/ -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org Blog: http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Tech links from South Asia: http://twitter.com/fn
[Goanet] Lhasa Apso
Can I please ask through your goanet.org is there anywhere I can buy a Lhasa Apso in Goa/Margoa
[Goanet] Ships sailing from India to UK
Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would anyone know the names of some ships (not the lines, like British India, PO, but the actual names of ships) sailing from India to UK, in the late 1800s, Please try this link also http://www.portcities.org.uk/ -- Tony de Sa Ph: +91 832 2470148 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] M: +91 9975 162 897 --- Achievement is largely the product of steadily raising one's levels of aspiration and expectation. - Jack Nicklaus
[Goanet] Bhas, Lipi Ani Gulab
Bhas, Lipi Ani GULAB Gulab vachinastana aikol'lea voir motanche voir vadri korun mot (bigot) ditat te vixim amcho nixedh asa. Ani zori Gulab vachun somzonaslear GULAB-achem dhoronn spoxtt korchem zalear - Konknnicho vistar (lipicho nhoi) ani hantun (toxem ani her koslei vixoyacher) konna konnachim vividh motam uzvaddak yetat tim tea-tea borovpeanchim motam ani tim motam divpacho ani uzvaddak haddpacho zonn ekleacho povitr hokk. Tori, zor GULAB-ar omkim motam aileat tim chukichim, ek bhazu gheun ani/vo motanche voir vadri kel'im (bigot) zalear tim purvean dakholl kelear te vixim khulaso diunk vo lottkem tem spoxtt dakhovpi motam uzvaddaunk ami fattim soronant. GULAB Romi lipintlem Konknni nemallem ani dubavaviret tachi ast asteli Romi lipie dixen. Ani rajbhas kaideant 'Konknni mhonnje Devanagri lipint boroil'li Konknni' kaddun 'Devanagri/Romi' ghalpachi itsa vo yevzonn dakhoilea/posorlea tantun Konknnichem, Goychem ani Goykaranchem boreponn asa zalear nhoich fokot 'Konknni mhonnje Devanagri/Romi lipint boroil'li Konknni' bogor 'Konknni mhonnje Romi lipint boroil'li Konknni' mhonnon durust mellovpak poriant ami odik khuxeal astoleanv, karann GULAB romi Konknni masik. Punn Romik sthan divpachea nanvan zor rajbhas kaideant bodol korun Romi lipi vangdda Moratthi bhaxek ek sarko dorzo divpachea karyak mat amcho khor virodh. Oxem mhonnttam karann ek voros fattim khaili chitt borovpean hanvem Moratthi virudh voir kelam tem vidhan kel'lem ten'na mhaka tannem oso prosn kel'lo, Moratthi bhaxek ek-sarko dorzo divpa vixim tuzo vixex virodh kiteak sangxi?' Tedna oslea horvea vicharak zabab diunchi goroz asa oxem mhaka dislem na. Atam-i divpachi goroz asa oxem disona, tori don vollimni sangchem zalear ek bhas don rajyanchi rajbhas kiteak? Magir Goykaramni lok-mot jikhun Goy vegllem dovorpachem mhotv kitem/koslem? Ani aiz zori Moratthik ek sarko dorzo diuncho zalear Goy Maharaxttrant ghalinastana kiteak dovorchem? Goychi ani Konknnichi fikir asloleank hem odik borem somzotolem dekhun ani GULABa vixim motanche voir vadri korun (bigot) motam konnench he fuddem diunchi nhoi heach hetun ho khulaso divpak amkam dislem. Tori he vixim barik niyall vachunk sodtoleamni The Goan Review - Julay-Agost ankacho ogrlekh mud'dom korun vachcho. -Fausto V. Da Costa Sompadok, Gulab Set. 5ver miguel boroita: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:02:00 +0530 (IST) From: Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Of Language, Script and Panic. by Tomazinho Cardoz To: Goanet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dears, ? The article below appeared in the GT page A8 on 03 September, 2008. It was followed on 05 Sept.?by a Letter to the Editor by Professor Sebastiao Mariano Borges objecting to the date of DKA formation and placing it on 28 August,?1988 [instead of 1989 stated by Tomazinho] at a function held in Margao. Perhaps, SMB is right. He writes for the GULAB magazine that was founded by Fr. Freddy Da Costa, the first DKA President. That Gulab and SMB promote Devanagri while writing in Roman script is just one of the many ironies of Konkani. ? Both, Tomazinho and SMB, are members of the GKA and have co-authored the compilation of Konkani Orthography published by GKA recently, perhaps in an effort to prepare Catholic Goans to switch over to Devanagri as if teaching Antruzi?Konkani in Devanagri SCRIPT in 126 Diocesan primary schools, 72 GPS?and 5 Hindu management primary schools was not enough to help the poor Catholics [Bhandaris and Lamanis who study in these schools] was not enough. The proximity perhaps increases the friction. Some sparks are inevitable. ? Prof. S M Borges does not seem to have made the transition to Devanagri that he talks about. He continues to write Konkani in Roman script. Sermanv somestank, onnienk nhoi! ? Mog asundi. ? Miguel
[Goanet] Ships sailing from India to UK
Hi, Have you forgotten Carmo already? ED. Carvalho said: Would anyone know the names of some ships (not the lines, like British India, PO, but the actual names of ships) sailing from India to UK, in the late 1800s, who would have employed Goan tarvottis. I understand no one on Goanet is old enough to have actual knowledge of this but maybe some names from those days. many thanks, selma
[Goanet] Advice on returning to Goa
John DSouza said Dear Remy, Don't be foolish Reply: more like: DONT BE SELFISH. (has your wife agreed to go with you Remy? - I don't think so. once you return to Goa after burning your boats you will be stuck. Reply: He should refer to some of GN mail a couple of years ago, whereby bribes, credits not repaid, redtape etc etc. everything was laid bare those days on GN by a person from Moira (I think) who did just what REMY is thinking. I have been in the UK for over 30 years and do visit Goa but living there with all the corruption and hanky-panky of politicians is not something?I can get used to. Reply: you meant cannot get used to? - Same here. Even getting on and off buses and trains, I cannot get used to. Everybody rushes 'me first', if not the train or the bus will leave without you. WELL: after a while I will get used to it and behave like a GHANTII to I suppose. ED.
[Goanet] Everything you wanted to know about Lord Ganesha, but were afraid to ask
http://www.himalayanacademy.com/resources/books/lg/lg_table_of_contents.html
[Goanet] Education Minister's Educational Qualifications
In Goa, even the educated elite prefer to act as non educated elite when it comes to politics doing all POLYtricks. From now on, Goans who has not even passed any standard will be awarded B.A.; M.A.; Ph. D. through Goa University which is pre-planned to be converted into Central University only for this purpose. Let's celebrate new culture that is set in motion by Kongress. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Orissa burining - Karan Thapar says it all
Goanetters, This article by Karan Thapar highlights the issue on Orissa and the need for everyone to speak out against what's happening in Orissa. Even for us Goans we need to voice our opinuions just like Karan Thapar. Thanks! Who's the real Hindu? - By Karan Thapar published on August 31, 2008 under Sunday Sentiments in Hindustan Times. Does the VHP have the right to speak for you or I? Do they reflect our views? Do we endorse their behaviour? They call themselves the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, but who says they represent all of us? This Sunday morning, I want to draw a clear line of distinction between them and everyone else. My hunch is many of you will agree. Let me start with the question of conversion — an issue that greatly exercises the VHP. I imagine there are hundreds of millions of Hindus who are peaceful, tolerant, devoted to their faith, but above all, happy to live alongside Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains and Jews. If any one of us were to change our faith how does it affect the next man or woman? And even if that happens with inducements, it can only prove that the forsaken faith had a tenuous and shallow hold. So why do the VHP and its unruly storm troopers, the Bajrang Dal, froth at the mouth if you, I or our neighbours convert? What is it to do with them? Let me put it bluntly, even crudely. If I want to sell my soul — and trade in my present gods for a new lot — why shouldn’t I? Even if the act diminishes me in your eyes, it’s my right to do so. So if thousands or even millions of Dalits, who have been despised and ostracised for generations, choose to become Christian, Buddhist or Muslim, either to escape the discrimination of their Hindu faith or because some other has lured them with food and cash, it’s their right. Arguably you may believe you should ask them to reconsider, although I would call that interference, but you certainly have no duty or right to stop them. In fact, I doubt if you are morally co rrect in even seeking to place obstacles in their way. The so-called Freedom of Religion Acts, which aim to do just that, are, in fact, tantamount to obstruction of conversion laws and therefore, at the very least, questionable. However, what’s even worse is how the VHP responds to this matter. Periodically they resort to violence including outright murder. What happened to Graham Staines in Orissa was not unique. Last week it happened again. Apart from the utter and contemptible criminality of such behaviour, is this how we Hindus wish to behave? Is this how we want our faith defended? Is this how we want to be seen? I have no doubt the answer is no. An unequivocal, unchanging and ever-lasting NO! The only problem is it can’t be heard. And it needs to be. I therefore believe the time has come for the silent majority of Hindus — both those who ardently practice their faith as well as those who were born into it but may not be overtly religious or devout — to speak out. W e cannot accept the desecration of churches, the burning to death of innocent caretakers of orphanages, the storming of Christian and Muslim hamlets even if these acts are allegedly done in defence of our faith. Indeed, they do not defend but shame Hinduism. That’s my central point. I’m sorry but when I read that the VHP has ransacked and killed I’m not just embarrassed, I feel ashamed. Never of being hindu but of what some Hindus do in our shared faith’s name. This is why its incumbent on Naveen Patnaik, Orissa’s Chief Minister, to take tough, unremitting action against the VHP and its junior wing, the Bajrang Dal. This is a test not just of his governance, but of his character. And I know and accept this could affect his political survival. But when it’s a struggle between your commitment to your principles and your political convenience is there room for choice? For ordinary politicians, possibly, but for the Naveen I know, very definitely not. So let me end by sa ying: I’m waiting, Naveen. In fact, I want to say I’m not alone. There are hundreds of millions of Hindus, like you and me, waiting silently — but increasingly impatiently. Please act for all of us. _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us
Re: [Goanet] The outsiders [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The label 'panaderos' (bakers, from pan = bread ) is freely applied to the few hundred Portuguese who live in Caracas, Venezuela. They do, indeed, own many of the town's bake shops. The city may have been home to a solitary Goan in the early 80's. eric. MODERATOR'S NOTE: Trimmed extra content from earlier post.
[Goanet] GMC behavior [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was wondering why government hospitals in Goa these days have turned into 7 star hotels from 4 star hospitals in 1960s. Vishva.Jeat gets one more reason to celebrate! Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad MODERATOR'S NOTE: Trimmed extra bytes from earlier post.
Re: [Goanet] Education Minister's Educational Qualific ... [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Heartiest Congratulations dear Floriano. May 207 grow to 2007 at the next hustings. But if you ask me (I know you won't), the way this mercenery operates, chances are that the 207 will be 27 the next time around.
Re: [Goanet] NRI cell a costly affair
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa/States_NRI_cell_a_costly_affair_/articleshow/3438744.cms While the foreign travel expenses of the employees of the NRI cell were Rs 5.53 lakh, Rs 4.89 lakh was utilised towards domestic travels. The cell also spent Rs 6.64 lakh for advertising and publicity. Folks, Rs 6.64 lakh for advertising? appox $15,000? Where has this money gone? Almost all of you here saw the web-page for the International Goan Convention in Toronto. That web-page raised exactly $0.00 in advertising. And may I add that there was a whole lot of advertising on the website including that of the Office of the NRI Commissioner. I would pay good money to find out where the NRI office spent their advertising dollars. Mervyn3.0 __ Get the name you've always wanted @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com! Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/
[Goanet] GMC behaviour
Hi, Some people suffer from sellective understanding. 1) Rich or poor go to GMC because they have a right to do so as Tax Payers. 2) GMC have got, or say they have the best machinery than the private ones PAID BY THE TAX PAYERS. only to find they are broken down due to inexperienced doctors. 3) The second statement mentioned was made by me not JC. The GMC doctors are not well mannered - just ignorant. (as I said, I have experienced it there) 4) That junior doctor did not see it comming, because they think they are gods. As Samir said, no doctor was humiliated, upon his enquirey he found out the other doctors said doctors A, B AND C should have been slapped instead. JANE! take your blinders OFF. Treatment at the GMC is a lottery. ED. - Jane Gillian said: 1) As per e-mail of Colaco I absolutely disagree with Jane wrt 'Govtmt hospitals are meant for the poor and those who cannot afford private hospitals'. My reply - I still want to know why rich Goans go for phookat treatment to govtmt hospitals when they can afford to go to pvt hospitals?? 2)Colaco - I fail to understand (my fault) the statement I feel sorry for the doctor who took the brunt, but somebody had to be slapped at the GMC. My response - Thank goodness, the GMC doctor was well-mannered and did not slap the junglee woman who slapped and humiliated him.
[Goanet] slapping GMC doctors
Hi, 1) We had this discussion on GN before. and I mentioned Bill Gates as a college dropout. 2) You are talking through your hat, you have not had an experience with GMC, and were fortunate not to be ill requiring GMC hospital treatment. Mapuca hospital and other hospitals DO HAVE sophisticated machines but they are on ONE OFF basis, that means - if one hospital has one type of machine the other has another type, which means, the patient has to be transferred to different private hospitals on a regular basis which is not practical for an ill patient. As I said count your blessings that you are or were not in that position, and shut up - don't bring Bill Gates into this, I just mentioned PhD to categorise high tax payers who subsidise the GMC heavily. (categorising all taxpayers here is not possible, you may have the time for that). 3) Why did she vent her anger? Have you had experience with the GMC doctors? NO? then again, shut up!! As Samir said if they were efficient they (the doctors at GMC) would not have named and said doctor A, B or C SHOULD have been slapped instead. It would be valuable if you had experienced GMC first hand to get the inside view, as I had. Just like they say 'little knowledge is dangerous', your selective nit-picking is annoying. ED. jane gillian rodrigues said: Edward's statement - The rich are forcefull because we can understand the mistakes the doctors make, and we are rich because we have done our Phds, we are not dumb like the poor. Have you read about Bill Gates There are many pvt hospitals in Mapusa etc. which have the very best medical equipment. Once again - WHY DID SONIA VENT HER ANGER ON A GMC DOCTOR, INSTEAD OF HERSELF? a loving daughter will always give her mother the very best, expensive, medical care.
Re: [Goanet] Goa too can be a communal caldron
It is the age-old syndrome, Samir Red´do pad´do zogo'tta...zadear cau... AT Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 20:26:20 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Goa too can be a communal caldron The recent incident in Margao where Bajrang Dal had a public meeting and some fundamentalist Muslims came out with swords just shows that Goa too can be a communal caldron. While the trigger will be done by fundamentalists on either side, the people who suffer will be lay folk of either religion. And there will be people --- and we see such communal elements on Goanet already --- justifying such violence. It is very cool for Mario sitting in faraway US to say that everything will be hunky-dory because he has nothing to lose. What is required is pro-active nipping in the bud of communal triggers, and inculcate ideas of secularism and tolerance in the younger generation. regards, Samir _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us
[Goanet] To save life, please dial 108
tihis is further to my earlier mail.. I have tried it on Idea and Reliance Mobile network. It works fine i.e. Dial 108 directly. It's free. (on prepaid, after the call, you get your usual message back to say your last call cost is '0') Please remember 1 0 8 in Goa Some time ago, I asked what do the following Numbers have in common (WTHIC): 999, 911 108 Or for that matter 777, 112 etc Well they are all Important Numbers to call in case of Emergency such as Hospital, Fire, Police etc in different countries. (999 being UK (also 112), UAE, Bharain, Quarter etc, 911 USA, 777 Kuwait, 112 being single European Emergency Call Number e.g. Uk, France, Italy, Portugal etc etc. As from 5/9/08, 108 is one single number to call from GOA in case of emergency Hospital, Fire, Police etc (Old numbers 100, 101, 102 etc will still work) Another advantage of this 108 number is that it will work from any mobile Phones by dialing 108 directly (no need of suffixing or prefixing any number) So how best 108 can be remembered? It’s EKXEM ATT (108) in konkani Again XEMBOR ANI ATT (108) 100+8 = 108 9 dozon (=108) Divide 108 by 2 or multiply by 2 and the sum total of all digits will be the same i.e. 9 e.g. 108/2 = 54 (5+4 = 9) 108x2= 216 (2+1+6=9) Please suggest some more tips to get 108 best remembered. Thank you. In the following picture, I have made a sort a of round human face/head using 108 i.e. 1 as a nose 0 being round face8 (laid horizontal) as eyes , hope this will help you some to remember 108 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/2824677012/ Please also view this.. for more details http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/2823835589/sizes/l/ Remember.. Whatever the emergency, Goan can call 108 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/282408/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa
[Goanet] Imprensa Nacional
Wow Rico, Great pictures of the Government Printing Press. Truly historical. Did the first Gutenberg land by parachute? BC
Re: [Goanet] Ships sailing from India to UK
Selma Carvalho wrote: Would anyone know the names of some ships (not the lines, like British India, PO, but the actual names of ships) sailing from India to UK, in the late 1800s, who would have employed Goan tarvottis. I understand no one on Goanet is old enough to have actual knowledge of this but maybe some names from those days. many thanks, selma === I am old enough to recall info posted by Cliff Pereira at http://www.portcities.org.uk/london/server/show/ConGalleryCollection.8/chapt erId/15/Goan-crewman-collection.html Ships carrying Goan crewmen. The passenger liner SS 'Indus' was in the port of London on 3 April 1881 with 17 Goan crewmen on board. The cargo liner SS 'Ravenna' was in the port of London on 3 April 1881 with 17 Goan crewmen on board. Descendants of some of the Goan crew have been traced through East Africa and presently live in London. The SS 'Arabia' was at the Royal Albert Docks [London] on the night of 31 March 1901 with 49 Goan crewmen on board. The SS 'Shannon' was at the Royal Albert Docks on the night of 31 March 1901 with 10 Goan crewmen on board The SS 'Shannon' was at the Royal Albert Docks on the night of 31 March 1901 with 10 Goan crewmen on board Eddie Fernandes
[Goanet] A Need To Soothe the Mind
To the average reader, this sounds like a pretty demented post. The topic is about an online petition to protect the rights of the Christian minorities in India. The writer starts off sensibly (although peppered liberally with capital letter words) in the first para, trying to make his point that the violence in Orissa is not about religion but about income and economic disparity. So far so good. But after that, he sinks into a mental morass. See the para hereunder where he rants about: The Konkani agitation Castration Newspaper features Freedom fighters and co-prisoner certificates and this final jewel Those who forget their history and condemned to see it repeat. I suggest to him a daily dip in the pure spring waters of Kesarval (if the site is still open to the public) until his fevered mind is sufficiently cooled. One more request: Please stop calling us dears, a kind of a gay, wimpish, transvestite-sounding word. Roland. Toronto On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dears, During the Konkani agitation, men from Agacaim were allegedly killed and castrated. In normal circumstances they might just have been assaulted with iron rods. They would at best feature on page 4 or 6 in a single column four inch report near the fold. Because of the KPA agitation EVERYTHING got magnified ...the conflict over the sluice gate [manos], crime, the report and the hype. There is a memorial erected to their memory. Ditto for some of the so called Freedom Fighters . The fakes have got into the ranks of the genuine ones ...leaving many a genuine FF out because of the co-prisoner certificate, that allegedly came with a price tag. Those who forget their history and condemned to see it repeat.
Re: [Goanet] Think of it as What would you do if it was your Brother
Dear Chandrakanth, Who wouldn't feel your pain? Lets not talk about there being two sides of the story - your wife's and yours. Lets just talk about you. When you took your wedding vows, you probably heard for richer or for poorer, in sickness and in health, in good times and bad - from this day onward Your wife has apparently not kept her end of the bargain. Lets forget about what she has done to you. Lets just consider that she is about to move on with another man. He being American has nothing to do with it. A couple of things you ought to do: See a psychiatrist for your own well being. Forget about the woman. Pick up the broken pieces aof your life and go about making yourself whole again. Easier said than done you might say, but it is you who asked me to advise you as if you were my brother. With regards, Roland. Toronto. 416-453-3371 On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Chandrakantha n.s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Every one, IS this right what ever she is doing?? I any way not asking for your judgement.. I am asking all you people here to help me get her back in my life because I want to give her everything that she desired from me and want to prove to her that my love to her is not a fake one but because of what ever bad times one goes through that all this had happend.
[Goanet] Lhasa apso
William Campbell wrote : Can I please ask through your goanet.org is there anywhere I can buy a Lhasa Apso in Goa/Margoa ___ Dear William, Goa has a Kennel Club which is affiliated to K.C.I (Chennai ). The Club is called KAG (Kennel Association of Goa). The Secretary of the Club is Mr Cliffy Martins ,phone no 0832 -2744477.If you get speak to him and tell him your requirements,he can put you in touch with genuine Lhasa Apso Breeders. Regards, Melinda Coutinho Powell
[Goanet] Any Goans in Perth, Western Australia? I need your help/contact!
Hello Goans in Perth, Australia! I am requesting your minimal help in assisting my independent 24 year old daughter with eventual accommodation/orientation/emergency help, if need be. She is moving to Perth from Toronto right away. Your timely assistance in lending whatever help you can give, would be greatly appreciated. Please email me at 'goaraj at rogers.com' or 'goache at hotmail.com' if you can help. Silviano Barbosa in Toronto, Canada. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ I thank all those who respond in anticipation! _
Re: [Goanet] Ships sailing from India to UK
Sweet Selma, I think I have hit on an idea that will fetch you the desired maritime information: All those signed on board received their copy of the signed constract rolled into a hard tube that was called 'nollí' or 'noí', after the bamboo or metal tube used in flaming fire. It was as coveted as our day's US 'green card'. However, its worth was far enhanced because it was almost hereditary, could be passed on to a son or a youngster of choice, upon the incumbent holder retiring. Granted such inherent value it is very unlikely that they were discarded when no longer required; rather they will have been saved by many sailor-families, most likely in AVC: Assolna-Velim-Cuncolim and in Chinchinim. It was these villages that the largest bulk of recruits hailed from and, a very hail hearty bunch they were. It is likely that the latest crop of these are still among us, for, when I used to visit the PO ships that berthed in Lisbon, they still carried the nöli. So, if you spread the word in these vilages so kind heart may just provide you with a copy or two this document. Good luck happy fishing... Alfred Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:14:20 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Ships sailing from India to UK Would anyone know the names of some ships (not the lines, like British India, PO, but the actual names of ships) sailing from India to UK, in the late 1800s, who would have employed Goan tarvottis. I understand no one on Goanet is old enough to have actual knowledge of this but maybe some names from those days. many thanks, selma _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us
[Goanet] Chess tournament at Panaji Municipal Market
Children chess tournament concluded today at Panaji Municipal Market. Artist Subodh Kerkar gave a good inspiring speech to live in once own passion. Foolowing are the winners in three different groups Top Group 1st Vivek Shetye from Deepvihar High School Vasco 2nd Girsh Kulkarni Dr. K.B. Hedgewar H.S. Panaji 3rd Somesh Takkekar Dnyanaprasarak Mapusa 4th Deepak gopalan Kendriya Vidhyalay I N S Mandovi 5th Vinay Shety Deepvihar Vasco Middle Group 1st Sayani Kerkar The New Education Institute Curchorem 2nd Cris Fernandes Don Bosco H s. Panaji 3rd Stanford Pereira Vidya Vihar H.s. Cortalim Beginner Group 1st Sonali Kerkar Shri Saraswati Prathmik Vihyalay Curchorem 2nd Rasha Fernandes 7th Day Advetest Mala Panaji 3rd Noah Pinhero St Michal School Karanzalem 44 students from all over Goa took part. Shravan Barve was Arbitor. Prizes worth 6000 were given in the form of Grand Mastor's Chess Lesson original DVD . Shri Dharmendra Bhagat Secretary, Panaji Municipal Market shop Keepers Association , Shri Subodh Kerkar and Shri Arjun Halarnkar gave away prizes. Shrikant Vinayak Barve Convener: The Right Move II-Career in Sports 9403175973 Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/
[Goanet] A NEW BOSSA NOVA PELICULA FROM BRASIL
BRAZILIAN BOSSA NOVA 50 YEARS OS DESAFINADOS A NEW PELICULA ABOUT THE GOLD YEARS OF THE BOSSA NOVA. WITH RODRIGO SANTORO AND SHELTON MELLO OS DESAFINADOS ( FROM A CLASSIC JOÃO GILBERTO SONGS, HIT PARADE 1956/1959) Benedicto Humberto Rodrigues Francisco uma vida dedicada ao BrasilBenedicto Rodrigueswww.cbarqueol.org.br _ Conheça o Windows Live Spaces, a rede de relacionamentos do Messenger! http://www.amigosdomessenger.com.br/
[Goanet] TEACHERS DAY!!!!
On the occasion of Teacher's Day let's salute all those great teachers who carry the torch of enlightenment and education. A tribute to all those who evoke in us a sense of admiration and respect for their devotion and ability to train the minds and hearts of children to think and love. Teachers, inspire, motivate and encourage their young students. The grooming process of a child begins at an early stage and this process is entrusted to the discerning teacher in whom is vested the inculcation of good habits and values. The best teachers teach from the heart, not from the book. We got to look back with appreciation to the brilliant teachers, and with gratitude to those who touched our human feelings. We were taught by our parents to have respect for our teachers. There were many students who would suffer stinging fingers from their teacher. In spite of the harsh punishment meted out to children, however, there was no feeling of enmity or hatred towards any of the teachers because the punishment never did mean to bolster selfish motives. Teachers were respected, as they were the ones who molded us and we are what we are today, only because of the excellent teachers. I still carry on the same respect whenever I happened to see any teacher including those of my children, for I always believed that teachers are knowledge personified. These days, we read the news of punishment, at times dangerously fatal too, inflicted on children just for not attending the private tuition classes conducted by them. We come across incidents day in and day out of the harassments meted out by teachers, leave aside the quality of teaching emanating from some of the teachers of the present. During those days we seldom came across tuition classes. Today these are proliferated and have become as essential as oxygen. Such phenomenon definitely is an indicator of diminishing qualities of teaching profession in some of our schools and colleges, though there are many teachers who devote their time and knowledge to the students. Teachers traditionally have held a position of honour and respect all over India, since time immemorial. Sadly in today's fast paced world, the value of teachers and what they do is fast losing importance. Teaching is a noble profession, and as in all professions, some do it merely as that, and some do it with a passion that changes the lives of the children who come into contact with such teachers. The world we leave to our children depends in large measure on the children we leave to our world; hence teachers have a pivotal role in realizing the goal of making education accessible to all wherever they are, regardless of socio-economic circumstance, race, creed or gender. It is an opportunity to show appreciation for their work in preparing the next generation to function efficiently in a changing world. If you ever have come across one teacher in all your student life, who has changed your life and your way of thinking for the better, you have been blessed. Thankfully, I have had several such opportunities. I have benefited from teachers who have gone beyond their call of duty, to mould me and other students into better human beings, first and foremost, and then to instill in us a sense of purpose for life, that at a young age seems all too ambiguous. These teachers went above the regular lectures, exams et al, and made us realize that education is something much more than what is contained in the printed text book. I consider education to be one of the nobler professions, akin to medicine. Teachers, who spend their lives teaching kids, do more than just teach. They help mould the future of our communities, cities and countries. I shall forever be thankful to all those wonderful teachers, who have enriched my life. To name a few would not be fair, because there are too many to name. And this is a day about all the teachers who have worked silently, under great stress and pressure to produce responsible and capable citizens of this world. Being a teacher is hard work! It is an often-thankless job. The lives teachers touch each day will grow to shape the student's tomorrows. Hence, every student should look back with appreciation and gratitude to the brilliant teachers who touched their feelings. Due honour should be given to the teachers in recognizing the lasting contributions they have made to their lives. It is the teacher's who shape the lives that they influence because the lessons learned from teachers remain with the students throughout their life. We should always respect our teachers and above all teachers need encouragement and support from the community to feel that their devotion to students is appreciated. Looking back, I think that one common thing that marked all the good teachers, was their humility. The more they knew, the greater their humility. And then, their desire to impart the love and fascination for their
[Goanet] Please identify these fruits (another)
Please identify these fruits If these are Peram (Guava) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2832687465/sizes/l/ Then what are these? http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2833527152/sizes/l/ Previouly... Both the foll are not 'Boram' any many said If this is ‘boram’ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2811228457/ Then what are these? http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2812074248/sizes/l/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa
[Goanet] This is what I call a 'real Picnic'
Over 100 people, Christians, Hindus, Nuns etc Young, very young old and very old All from same loaclity, all in one voice Just in case, you missed it.. http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=tn8wVaIuzkc It was in 2002 although uploaded in 2006 I was a special invitee.. With my money, I tried to do a similar one but all in vein. You could try at your end.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa
[Goanet] Orissa violence- testimonies
Visit to Orissa By Shabnam Hashmi I went to Orissa for two days as part of a delegation. We were not allowed to enter Kandhamal. We met a large number of victims in Bhubaneshwar, met the governor and the local civil society members as well as priests of various churches. Visit to Kandhamal next week depends on the fact whether the Govt will permit us to go there or not. VHP's Togadia has been allowed to go and add more fuel to the fire. This account is based on the testimonies of: 8 priests and over 300 families who hid in thick forests without water and food, with small hungry children, with thousands of mosquitoes and other insects and who walked over 280 kilometers to reach Bhubaneshwar with just the set of clothes that they were wearing. It took them 5 days to reach the city. It is not safe to give the names or addresses of those who testified before us as even now VHP and the other Sangh organisations are still attacking the villages , burning houses, shops and churches, catching people, tonsuring them, forcing them to sign that they have become Hindus. --- It is an Indian tradition to talk with respect about those who have departed from this world. Pray that their soul may rest in peace. Swami Laxmananda Saraswati was killed on August 23rd, 2008 at the VHP ashram in Jalespata, Kandhamal, Orissa. A large number of organisations across India condemned the attack and his killing. While condemning every violent act and his killing there is a need to look at his work and message before making him a martyr. The swami came to Kandhamal in 1969. He travelled from village to village initially contacting the business community, organising poojas and bhajans, which very soon turned into inflammatory messages against the local Christian community. Initially in 1970es the attacks came on smaller villages. The first organised attack came in 1987. People from 6-7 villages were collected together to attack a village which had a large Christian population. Under his leadership 16 churches were burnt down in 1986-87. There were 56 cases registered for this but Swami was not arrested. Not even under the 'secular' governments. The sheer fact that none of the political parties touched him, due to their deep concern for the 'Hindu' vote, he got emboldened and his campaigns became more aggressive and vicious. While Christians were attacked using the bogey of conversion, the VHP and the swami spearheaded the campaign to forcibly convert local animistic Tribals and Christian Tribals into Hindus, calling it ghar wapsi or reconversion as if the tribals were ever in the Hindu fold. On January 22, 1999 Graham Stains and his two young sons were burnt to death by a Sangh sponsored mob in Keonjhar district of Orissa. Same year in September another Christian priest was killed in the village Jamudhi , also in Keonjhar district. After Graham Stains was murdered by the Sangh goons instead of condemning the murder the then Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee asked for a national debate on conversion and within a week of that VHP printed and distributed over 5 million pamphlets full of vicious propaganda against the Christian minority. Similarly when the whole drama of the Shabri Kumbh was going on in the dang district of Gujarat where also Christians have been under attack since 1998, the VHP distributed vicious Cds against Christians. The distribution of the CDs was challenged by us in the Supreme Court through a PIL. Under the garb of doing educational and development work the sangh has opened Vanvasi Kalyan Ashrams and Ekal Vidyalaya throughout the tribal belts in Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Gujarat and Orissa. The VHP alone has over one lakh workers in Orissa. There are approximately 6000 RSS shakhas. On December 24, 2007 violence broke out over Christmas celebrations in Kandhamal district. Attackers from VHP/ RSS came with axes, rods etc. hundreds of houses, Christian institutions, businesses, and properties were attacked and raised to the ground in the violence that continued for over a month. For years the administration has ignored the hate campaigns and the violence against the Christians. The VHP has not only been in the fore front of these violent attacks but has sowed the seeds of hatred by distributing highly provocative material against the Christian community. Swami Laxmananda Saraswati was killed on August 23rd, 2008 allegedly by Maoists. VHP declared a bandh on August 25, 2008. His body was taken in a procession travelling close to 150 kilometers accompanied by a VHP mob and the police and administration. It stopped in front of many churches, raising highly abusive and provocative slogans, attacking the churches, Christian institutions breaking glasses, furniture, attacking people, while the police looked on including the highest officers of the state and the district. After the
[Goanet] Manmohan lets Indians down
Selma Carvalho wrote: I think all of us see the Nehru family from different perspectives, but for all of their short-comings, they were people of action, of charisma, of resonance with the public. Who do we have today, who we can say inspires us? I can't think of anyone.By now, Manmohan should at the very least have been on a plane to Orissa. Dear Selma, I have no issues with you when you, for whatever reasons, feel inspired by the Nehru-Gandhi Family and believe that they are the best to lead India. It is entirely your choice and I respect that. My purpose of replying was not to denounce you for supporting them. I likewise have no issues with others who may be similarly inspired by Gandhi, Hitler, Modi, Parrikar, Mother Teresa, Savarkar, RSS, the Geeta or Bible or whoever or whatever, provided of course that they are inspired positively and not negatively. I chose to counter the part where you averred that members of the Nehru clan would have dealt with the riots more sternly, a statement which, based on historical facts, appeared to be demonstrably false. Nobody in his/her right sense can deny that Emergency and the Anti-Sikh riots are amongst the darkest blots in Indian History if not the darkest and two members of the Nehru family, i.e. Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi, not only presided over these gloomy periods but were (in)directly responsible for the same. I however do agree that riots were largely in check during Nehru's tenure but Nehru was fortunate to have been blessed with the iron – hand of Sardar Vallabhai Patel, his home Minister. On the other hand, the present Home Minister Shivraj Patil, who happens to be Sonia's hand-picked man, has proven to be a very impotent Minister, having failed miserably in Orissa, Jammu and Kashmir, and on almost every single front. Manmohan Singh cannot replace him even if he wants to. I also agree that Manmohan Singh has failed drastically in his duties to protect the citizens in Orissa but the present culture in the Congress is that of collective leadership. It would therefore be very unfair if we were to censure him for his (in)actions while extolling the virtues of the Nehru-Gandhi family. While Nehru's grand daughter-in-law has consistently received a lot of bouquets for the laudable achievements of the Government, it is therefore just and fair that along with Manmohan Singh, Sonia receives the due brickbats too! Cheers Sandeep
[Goanet] Fw: Would appreciate your response/suggestions
Today we had the 'Solidarity Meet' to share the grief of the persecuted Christians in Orissa, at the Menezes Braganza Hall, Panjim, organised by the Center for Social Justice Peace, which was very largely attended with His Grace, the Archbishop of Goa in attendance. Politics Religion Mix was identified as the main reason for the religious strife in India being a Constitutionally declared Secular State. Therefore the question that arises is: How and/or in what manner should this Mix be identified and attempts made to stop such a mix at source and subsequently in normal working life of a government/s. Suggestions towards this shall be highly appreciated and will go a long way to make the Goan society aware of the inherent dangers if politics is allowed freely to mix with religion and vice versa. As an example, we would like to start with a sample where this could be one of those things which are not allowed by law. 'When Election Commission of India refuses to register a political outfit or a political party with names having religious conotations. Ex. Christian Democratic Party; Muslim League; (say) Vishwa Hindu Parishad Party etc. Please add to this to make the list more potent and effective. Thank you. floriano lobo goasuraj
[Goanet] Fined for speaking in Konkani
Albert writes:- One is seen grumbling that we were fined for speaking in Konkani. The idea behind this was to help us to be fluent in English. When I was studying for my premiro grav in portuguese in Lourdes Convent school we had to converse in Portuguese during the portuguese class which was held in the evenings. In the morning we had to converse in English. Konkani is our mother tongue which requires no practice as it is the language born with us. English is the language that needs to be practiced as the pronounciations are tough and not like french or portuguese which goes by sound and writings. _ Searching for the best deals on travel? Visit MSN Travel. http://in.msn.com/coxandkings
[Goanet] U.S. Presidential Elections: A Catholic Perspective (SAR News)
*U.S.** Presidential Elections: A Catholic Perspective* *From Fr. Desmond de Sousa CSsR in the United States, SAR NEWS* Americans celebrate the Labour Day on September 1, not the Workers' Day on May1 as we in India do. Bishop William Murphy, Chairman of the U.S. Bishops Committee on Domestic Justice and Human Development, released their Statement for Labour Day last week. It echoed many of the same sentiments expressed later by the Democratic Party nominee for President, the first African American to lead a major party, 47-year-old Barack Obama, born of a Kenyan father and white American mother. Obama electrified a more than 84,000 roaring listeners: America, we cannot turn back, with so much work to be done, not only with so many children to educate and so many veterans to care for, not with an economy to fix and cities to rebuild and farms to save, not with so many families to protect and so many lives to mend. It's time for them to own their failure, he challenged the opposition Republicans. It's time for us to change America, he concluded. Obama's Democrats roared the convention's theme for change: Yes, we can. It was a moment that will be cherished by history. It was 45 years, almost, to the day, when, on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. electrified his 250,000 audience when he thundered prophetically: I have a dream that one day, my four little children will not be judged by the colour of their skin, but by the content of their character. Obama, who grew up in poverty, raised by his single mother, resonated with that dream. Fifty-six-year-old teacher Caroline Chambers, who herself experienced the injustice of segregation of whites and blacks, exulted, Now, we are sitting here watching a black man and a white man about to become President and Vice-President. The vice-presidential nominee is 65-year-old Joe Biden, a Catholic with 35 years as Senator. This moment of history was not lost on the U.S. bishops. The Bishops' Pastoral encouraged Americans to move beyond hand-wringing and negative assessments of the present tough economic times, to a renewed commitment to Catholic principles of subsidiarity and global solidarity. Bishop Murphy then praised the late Msgr. George Higgins, a personal friend of many of us in Asia involved with workers, who wrote the U.S. bishops' annual Labour Day statement for many decades. Msgr. Higgins, nicknamed the workers priest, drew Bishop Murphy's praise, for his extraordinary ability to measure the large economic issues by their impact on the average working man and woman. Msgr. Higgins, Bishop Murphy continued, would have kept a keen eye on the cost of living and its effects on family budgets, on the real value of current wages to buy necessities and on the challenges to our economy to diversify without losing sight of its traditional strengths and opportunities. Bishop Murphy observed, Things may be tough for an awful lot of us today. But I can hear Msgr. Higgins telling us, 'Don't forget the other guy, especially the person with less. That person has hopes and dreams too'. But ultimately, Msgr. Higgins would have asserted 'his faith in a nation and a people whose creative energies and productive capacities should and would move us to a healthier economic situation'. In this year of election, Bishop Murphy opined, Msgr. Higgins would urge you to look beyond the slogans and the promises and always insist on some basic principles that we all must follow… An informed conscience examines the candidates and issues from the perspective of human life and dignity, the true good of every human person, the true good of society, the common good of all in our nation and in the world. The Pastoral emphasises both the fundamental duty to oppose what is intrinsically evil (i.e. the destruction of unborn life) and the obligation to pursue the commin good (i.e.defending the rights of workers and pursuing greater economic justice). The nation's dual commitment to economic freedom and economic justice cannot mean freedom for me alone. It must extend to all those who are affected by our actions and by society's goals. That means everybody in today's globalised world. Both Vice-Presidential candidate Joe Biden and Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi are Catholics. Biden, a product of a Catholic education, whose mother dissuaded him from joining the seminary, and Pelosi, are at odds with the Church teaching on abortion. Biden's Catholic and working class roots have been a source of solidarity for him with hard-working American families who are suffering the most from the current economic crisis. Reacting to the criticism and the possibility of being denied communion for his stance on abortion, Biden remarks, I was raised at a time when the Catholic Church was fertile with new ideas and open discussion. Questioning was not criticised; it was encouraged. Pelosi was accused by the bishops of misrepresenting the history and
[Goanet] The artist out there...
You could say god, nature or whoever you believe in created this scene out there. Panjim by sunset, awaiting the signing-off of the monsoons, I guess (it has been a wee bit thunder-y here these days). Check it out on Flickr: http://flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/2833018545/ Rgds and good wishes, FN -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org Blog: http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Tech links from South Asia: http://twitter.com/fn
[Goanet] Destiny's Book ... retracing an uncle's lost writing
DESTINY'S BOOK Dale Menezes shares his moments as he went about finding his uncle's Konknni writings in the old issues of A Vanguarda, a Portuguese-Konknni weekly. -- On 19th July 2008, Noxibant Nirmilelem, a book of eight Konknni short stories in Romi script penned by late Camilo Menezes was released. Incidentally, the book was released during the Xth presentation ceremony of Late Camilo de Menezes Achievement Awards, a function which my family has been organizing every year to felicitate the SSC toppers from Quepem taluka. Most of us in the Menezes kuttumb never knew that there was another writer in our family and all that some of the elders knew was that he had written and staged a couple of tiatrs in Kepem when he was young, two specially, Favona Tem Mevonam and Mhozo Oprad being quite a hit during those days before the Liberation of Goa. The discovery of his lost writings, some fifty years after they were first written, is a fascinating story in itself! [Illustration of late Camilo by Shashi D'Costa] In February this year, Walter Menezes, my father released his second book, Zoit ani her kovita under the Sahitya Prabha assistance scheme of the Goa Konknni Akademi. He had gone to submit 50 copies of his book to the Akademi and it is here that my father briefly met Brazinho Soares, a senior Konknni writer from Santa Cruz . During this chance meeting, Brazinho casually enquired whether Camilo was my father's father. My father replied in negative. Camilo is not my father, but my eldest brother, he said. Brazinho confided in my father that Camilo used to write a lot some 50 years ago on a Portuguese-Konknni weekly newspaper called 'A Vanguarda' and that he (Brazinho) used to look forward to his writings, especially the stories which were serialized. That evening my father came home and excitedly relayed the news to us. On earlier occasions, I had gone to the reference section of Central Library in Panaji and I immediately volunteered to find my uncle's lost literature. If I had to find the writings there was no better place to start than the Central Library! [From L to R: Anthony Menezes, Tereza Travasso, Chairperson, Quepem Municipal Council, Dr. Francisco Colaco, Consultant Physician Social Activist, Prabhakar Tendulkar, Former Editor of 'Goykar' and 'A Vanguarda' (Konknni Section) and Sanjay Talwadkar, Senior Teacher, TV host and actor.] I went to the Central Library where the staff gave me four yellowed volumes of A Vanguarda, all neatly bound. The volumes were taking me back in time, to a period before the Liberation of Goa, as I leafed through the pages of the weekly newspaper. Till noon I found nothing. After lunch when I sat down to search again, I found Camilo's first published work on A Vanguarda. Yes! I cried in sheer exhilaration. As I ploughed further, I began to find more and more. I was astounded by his written output. One of his stories, Noxibant Nirmilelem, was serialized in eight instalments! I captured all his articles, poems and stories on my digital camera. At the end of the day I came home with eighty odd photographs of the pages which I then downloaded on my computer. I used almost a month of my summer holidays to carefully go through the 'printed pages' as I 'zoomed' in and out of the computer screen to write by hand Camilo's literary output on old diaries and then type the same again in MS word! A difficulty cropped up when my father went through the manuscript and realized that on account of a torn page of A Vanguarda one story was incomplete. Luckily for us, I could find the 'missing part' at Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr, Porvorim whose library also had a collection of the same weekly newspaper. Fifty years ago, Prabhakar Tendulkar was the editor of the Konknni section of A Vanguarda. Once my father decided to put Camilo's short stories in book form, there were no two opinions about who should write the preface of the book. Tendulkar-bab still remembered Camilo's writings when we went to meet him with a print-out of the manuscript in Mapusa, although the two of them had never met in person. In his preface, Tendulkar-bab regrets that Camilo did not continue writing and that had he done so, to Konknnintlo ek fankivont borovpi zatolo aslo. So on 19th July 2008 when Prabhakar Tendulkar released the book, it was like a dream come true. Camilo may have died ten years ago but he must have surely smiled from heavens above at the turn of events taking place on his 70th birth anniversary! It is not always that some lost writer is found again. I feel privileged that I was a part of that journey and discovery. Looking back, all I can say is this: hem amchea 'NOXIBANT-uch NIRMILELEM!' [Courtesy: Gomantak Times, Goa. issue dated Aug 28, 2008]
Re: [Goanet] Please identify these fruits (another)
Thanks. Another pic of it ( raw ones with leaves) was posted earlier here click here. Local name also given below the pic http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2716164131/ thanks for your support --- On Sat, 6/9/08, Thaumaturgist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Thaumaturgist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Please identify these fruits (another) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, 6 September, 2008, 1:53 PM Joe Thank you for posting the photo for identification. I had been interested for the last few years to find out if this was available in India. I think this is MIMUSOPS BALATA. This little known fruit from the Sapotaceae family is also known as Achras balata with regional common names like Ausubo or Assapookoo. An effort is now under way to re-classify this as Manilkara bidentata. Asit K. Ghosh Rockledge, Florida, USA = Following 2 photos were taken in Fairchild Tropical Botanic Garden on 14th July, 2007. Fruit flowers http://www.asitghosh.com/MISC/1asitmbalatasm.jpg A cluster of fruits http://www.asitghosh.com/MISC/2asitmbalatasm.jpg - Fruits for the following 4 photos came from a tree in Merritt Island, Florida on 21st July, 2007. Whole fruits compared to a 1-inch coin http://www.asitghosh.com/MISC/3asitmbalatasm.jpg Horizontally vertically cut fruits http://www.asitghosh.com/MISC/4asitmbalatasm.jpg Close-up of 5 seeds with pulps removed http://www.asitghosh.com/MISC/5asitmbalatasm.jpg 2 halves with 5 seeds removed http://www.asitghosh.com/MISC/6asitmbalatasm.jpg --- On Sat, 9/6/08, JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Please identify these fruits (another) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 12:05 PM Please identify these fruits If these are Peram (Guava) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2832687465/sizes/l/ Then what are these? http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2833527152/sizes/l/
[Goanet] 'Aitaracheo Katkutleo' A book to be released at Utorda tomorrow.
A book 'Aitaracheo Katkutleo' by Mr. Lino Baptisto Dourado, alias 'Lapit', my 'ganv-bhau' who is well known on various net forums (including here). Lino B Dourado also a regular contributor to Goan konkani weeklies and magazines. The book is a collection of humorous articles by himself which he been writing from Kuwait. The book will be released tomorrow 8th Sept. 2008 at Our Lady of Lourdes School Hall at 7pm Congratulations to Lino. === JoeGoaUk will be the guest of honour at the book release ceremony. All are invited. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa
[Goanet] Re. Gratuitous advice on returning to Goa
Dear Ralph, Are the principles wrong or is it just because the advice is from the armchair? Do we only support armchair recommendations about merits of Not Returning!! Really, is there is no way, Goans (in Goa Outside) can think positively, work together and make it Goa by Choice for Goans ? Is the Gobal economic shift really not moving East? Yes, the decision to emigrate is personal; but armchair or not, I hope we appreciate the reality i.e. so much emigration is a slow poison to killing Goa's Identity. Also, whilst you have some valid criticism of armchair activists, please appreciate my views below: (1) If one can't act for whatever reason, it is better to at least say something for Goa's Identity. This will only help the cause!! There are lot of ideas out there and also so many Goans unaware of the facts or thinking in isolation!! What do we have to lose? (2) Yes, many Goans emigrate for valid reasons but the point I am trying to make is that, there is also so much unnecessary emigration!! Then there are NRI's in outside lands also for valid reasons but are not citizens of those countries, they are preparing the ground to return and make things better in Goa for Goans; surely I would not call them firmly entrenched or contrary to their own choices!!; Because as I understand the main discussion here was the choice to migrate permanently from Goa or not! (3) There are some armchair activists who are also in action i.e. in addition to just talking (and these you will not see on Goanet) Kind Regards, Arwin Mesquita Message: 1 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 23:56:29 -0700 (PDT) From: ralph rau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Gratuitous advice on returning to Goa To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The decision to emigrate or return must remain an intensely personal matter that one discusses with one's near and dear and not on a public forum like goanet. Else you get armchair recommendations from those firmly entrenched outside Goa (in Dubai?) about the merits of returning !! By his own admission the questioner has agonised over the decision to return after two years of internal family debate. It is absurd for him to seek general public advice and even more absurd for members to dispense with such advice especially when it is contrary to their own choices. --
[Goanet] Violence in Orrisa - Rally - Pls Attend
DEAR FRIENDS, PLEASE ATTEND IN LARGE NUMBERS. Please forward to all your friends around the world. You are invited to attend a A MULTI-RELIGIOUS RALLY FOR ORISSA AT : Venue : Azad Maidan, near CST, Vt, Mumbai Date: 7th september, 2008 Time: 3.30pm - 5.00pm SPEAKERS: Activists who visited Orissa will speak on the communalism there. Organised By: Joseph Dias, christian Representative, Minorities Welfare Committee, Govtmt of Maharashtra And President - The Catholic Secular forum. For more enquiries : E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.thecsf.org / mo. +919324803279 In case you or any Christian is being harassed, anywhere in India - please contact CSF on mo. (hotline) :+919869481357 BE THERE TO SHOW YOU CARE
[Goanet] Orissa Victims Narrate Heart-rending Sufferings
Orissa Victims Narrate Heart-rending Sufferings Report and pics from Ancy Paladka Daijiworld Media Network - Mumbai (SP) Mumbai, Sep 6: Bombay Catholic Sabha had organized a programme to meet the three priests who were brutally attacked but miraculously survived, during the recent carnage in Orissa. The programme was held on Friday September 5 at Holy Spirit Hospital, Mahakali Caves Road, Andheri at 6.30 pm. Fr Edward Sequeira SVD and Fr Bernard Digal were brought in a wheelchair and wheel stretcher respectively, while Fr Thomas Chellan, who was discharged on Friday, could walk in. All the priests are being treated at the Holy Spirit Hospital. In his testimony Fr Edward, a native of Kirem near Mangalore said, that during his 28 years of service in Orissa, he had not converted a single person to Christianity. The perpetrators of the organized crime hate us because of the fact that we educate tribals, whom they have been exploiting since long. They are afraid that the tribals will one day rise to their level, both educationally and economically. Hindu organizations like VHP, RSS, Bajrang Dal etc., which execute such evil designs, should be treated as terrorist organizations and banned, he demanded. I was running a leprosy centre for the people belonging to a tribe called 'Brinjal'. They Brinjals believe, that having at least one male child was very much necessary for every family. Girls are treated with neglect and sent to do menial labour, domestic work etc., and use to suffer from malnutrition. I picked some boys from their tribe, who would go to them and help their people. I also built an orphanage and picked some girls basically from the families having several girls and gave them education. Rajni Majh (girl who was burnt in the incident), was one of the girls who was actually adopted. But she was ill-treated when the couple which adopted her conceived a boy. Rajni was a very active girl in the orphanage and good in sports. She was doing graduation and had even represented at university level sports competitions. She was like a leader in the orphanage, he explained. I did not know who Swami Laxmananand Saraswati was and had never seen him. I was also not aware about his killing on August 23 evening, the responsibility for which was claimed by the Maoist organization. Actually his place is over 500 kms away from my place. On August 25 Afternoon, at about 1.30 pm, I sat to have my lunch when all of a sudden a huge crowd of more than 500 people gathered in front of my home and asked for the priest. When I identified myself, they took out iron rods, spades, sticks and other weapons which they were hiding, and started shouting slogans against me and hitting and thrashing me for more than a hour, he recollected. Then they heaped and set on fire all my books, papers, clothes etc., in the room. They then threw me into the fire and locked the room from outside. I had suffered fractures all over my body and also in my hands but somehow, with divine strength, I managed to escape into my bathroom and poured some water on the fire and extinguish it. Then I hid in the bathroom and locked the door and windows. By that time the arsonists had already set fire to the roof of my building. They also broke open the window of my bathroom. But it was filled with smoke, and they did not find me. As I had also not locked the window that they opened, they thought that I was dead. As they walked away, I breathed through the small hole of the window. They also caught Rajni Majh, brought her next to my room and set her on fire. I could hear her screams, before falling unconscious. I was saved because of the efforts of Dr Mary Kutty of Handmaids of Mary, and Dr Rajnesh Samal, a Baptist missionary, he said, recollecting the help extended by them as he was picked up at 6.30 am the next morning. How can the violence erupt at several places at the same time, unless it was an organized crime? Are they given the licence to kill people?, he questioned. They label us as converters. But we do not convert people. We only educate them to live a dignified life. Even after conducting 'reconversion' and subjecting the so called 'converters' through 'purification programmes' by using dung and urine of cows, they do not allow them to mingle with their own community members, he lamented. Fr Thomas Chellan, director of the Pastoral Centre at the Bhubaneshwar archdiocese which is 260 kms away from Kandhmal, narrated a similar story. He along with a priest and a nun, fled through the backyard. They saw their pastoral centre distroyed with a bomb on the August 24 afternoon. They fled to the jungles and at night, came back to the house of a Hindu friend and took shelter. Sensing danger, the family shifted them to an adjacent house and locked it from outside to give an impression that no one resides therein. But somehow miscreants located them, dragged them out and hit them, stripped and tortured him in all possible ways. The same agony was
[Goanet] Some more Goan guitars on YouTube...
Dr. Eloy Gomes - Legendary Goan Guitarist Recorded 20 years ago by Francis Rodrigues http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=vR5wBBSytlE Dr. Eloy Gomes - Legendary Goan Guitarist http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=QdF7geBwqiw Lucio Miranda From: shagunshefali http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXeq82KXBdMfeature=related Unbelievable- 5 in 1 Goa Band stephano30 http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=rpDPPh3iSfsfeature=related If you find some other links, do pass them on... FN -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org Blog: http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Tech links from South Asia: http://twitter.com/fn
Re: [Goanet] Manmohan lets Indians down
--- On Sat, 9/6/08, Sandeep Heble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Selma, I have no issues with you when you, for whatever reasons, feel inspired by the Nehru-Gandhi Family and believe that they are the best to lead India. -- Dear Sandeep, I'm beginning to realise rather late in life that I have a schoolgirl's crush on Nehru. Here was a dashing Kashmiri Pandit who was an atheist, schooled in Oxford, the product of everything he held in disdain and suspicion and yet an unabashed anglophile who made fun of people who couldn't speak English well, a nationalist leader of a divided country, a wealthy man loved and held in reverence by the desperately poor and an intellectual in a country where more than half the population was illiterate. How he juggled such dichotomy in his life is hard to imagine, more-so how he would have managed India today, completely stripped of any nationalistic fervour except for the convoluted machinations of the Sangh, which is what passes for nationalism today. Sonia Gandhi is not cut from the same cloth as the Nehrus, although I dare say she is an honest lady of substance. Manmohan definitely has his strengths, perhaps jumping in the fray is not one of them. Still, I realise I cannot put my heroes on a pedestal. They belong to the dismal reality of human-hood rather than hero-hood. What can we mere mortals do? Sigh with anguish at secondary pain, perhaps a little in relief that it was not our turn this time but someone else's. An ill-wind bodes for India. I can feel the chill in my bones. One can only hope, it passes us by. selma
[Goanet] Goa news for September 7, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa expat Brit granny jailed for heroin smuggling - Herald Publications [19 hours ago] LONDON, SEPT 5 Evelyn George, a 57-year-old British grandmother who was living in Goa for the past decade, has been jailed for 11 years because she tried ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=9447cid=2cid=1242583559ei=RBLDSKTpPI-qggOY0sHUAwusg=AFQjCNGXHfTkgjnDVllvGWHxFXeJORz63Q *** #152;Goa WC dept can\'t summon Fiona - MSN India [9 hours ago] Panaji: Fiona Mackeown's counsel today said that his client cannot be served summons by Goa's women and child welfare department as the case against her for ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1661615cid=1243094450ei=RBLDSKTpPI-qggOY0sHUAwusg=AFQjCNHimzSlrmQqfLAUNxLen5h3oDCoyg *** First impressions - Hindu [4 hours ago] Goa can be heaven or hell. Whichever way one looks at it, itsa slice of Eden thats increasingly being lost. Called Aparanta earlier, this little piece of ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/lr/2008/09/07/stories/2008090750250600.htmcid=0ei=RBLDSKTpPI-qggOY0sHUAwusg=AFQjCNE3J9XTS7P6ltWE_-3PO4YnF_5JOA *** Miss Nimboopani, Sweet And Sour - Outlook (subscription) [15 hours ago] From diary sketches and cartoons that take playful potshots at small-town life and small-minded communities, to elaborate renderings of Goa that are ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20080915fname=Booksasid=1cid=0ei=RBLDSKTpPI-qggOY0sHUAwusg=AFQjCNGnA8whbiTyfvM2zM5TYgTUwkU-Hg *** Discover Goa - First Comprehensive Multimedia CD Released - Daijiworld.com [17 hours ago] Panaji, Sep 6: Digital Goa has produced Goas first comprehensive multimedia CD Discover Goa - containing thousands of photographs and write ups on every ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=50740n_tit=Discover%20Goa%20%20-%20First%20Comprehensive%20Multimedia%20CD%20Releasedcid=0ei=RBLDSKTpPI-qggOY0sHUAwusg=AFQjCNEx-aZ3EHSUhatAj7d626E-Ig17jQ *** 108 emergency service launched in Goa - MSN India [Sep 5, 2008] Goa Chief Minister Digambar Kamat inaugurated the services in the presence of Speaker Pratapsingh Rane, Health Minister, Vishwajeet Rane, Education Minister ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1659673cid=0ei=RBLDSKTpPI-qggOY0sHUAwusg=AFQjCNF8rb9nZitAvPuxOx51n3Lc7g6RHQ *** Goan lifeguards to the rescue in Bihar - Times of India [Sep 4, 2008] PANAJI: Forty-six lifeguards from Goa were sent to Bihar on Thursday in order to aid in rescue operations in the flood-affected areas. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goan_lifeguards_to_the_rescue_in_Bihar/articleshow/3446444.cmscid=0ei=RBLDSKTpPI-qggOY0sHUAwusg=AFQjCNH2XYTe8IYjttkbhFl1deH8O42G8w *** Bahuguna against high-rise buildings in Goa - Newspost Online [8 hours ago] Noted environmental Sundarlal Bahuguna today said that the mega housing projects that are cropping up in Goa are threatening the ecology of the region. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.newspostonline.com/national/bahuguna-against-high-rise-buildings-in-goa-200809064231cid=0ei=RBLDSKTpPI-qggOY0sHUAwusg=AFQjCNEbYhZ9-s10lMoXDuvA9lr5LcBC3A *** St. Anthony Overcome Marriott Boys in All-Goa Football - Khaleej Times [2 hours ago] DUBAI - St. Anthony Guirim recovered from a goal down to pip Marriott Boys Carmona 2-1 in the 5th All-Goa invitation inter-village football tournament at ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/sports/2008/September/sports_September169.xmlsection=sportscol=cid=0ei=RBLDSKTpPI-qggOY0sHUAwusg=AFQjCNGMhZCbOWUHqkAlkE8MnuTfHNkI2A *** Goa Government Launches 108 Free Emergency Response Services - Daijiworld.com [6 hours ago] Panaji, Sep 6: Emergency Management and Research Institute (EMRI) in collaboration with the Government of Goa today launchedthe 108 free emergency response ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=50757n_tit=Goa+Government+Launches+108+Free+Emergency+Response+Servicescid=0ei=RBLDSKTpPI-qggOY0sHUAwusg=AFQjCNEqCoVDys0rlhs_txbg1j8ithom1g Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Goan Music-5: HERALD(Goa), Sept 7, 2008
GOAN MUSIC-5 By Valmiki Faleiro Goa’s western music traditions fostered in a modest cradle: parochial music schools, gently rocked by village ‘Mestris.’ Both the music schools and traditional ‘Mestris’ are long since dead, with an unsung funeral. The ‘Mestris’ moulded masters, who scaled the heights of legend – nationally, over the seven seas, and overseas. In tribute to the ‘Mestri,’ let us today look at just one instance that his unsparing violin bow produced. (When a pupil played a wrong note, the ‘Mestri’s’ bow left the strings of his own violin and stroked instead the erring student’s knuckles or shoulder!) Roque Santano Rodrigues e Cota was a musically talented youth from Curtorim. With his younger brother, Joao Socorro, he lived at ‘Oji Pannd’ (Lane of Midwives), Tembi, Margao, in the second half of the 19th century. He dreamt big, but his modest means wouldn’t allow him to break free, to blend his music genii with his knack for business. Santan was observant. On a particular feast day of Our Lady, when collections at Margao’s Holy Spirit church were hefty, he decided to strike and bolt. As the feast procession gingerly wended its way around the church ground, Santan stealthily crept into the sacristy, lifted the cash collections of the day, and slithered away via the ‘Kumao-a kan,’ the circular hole in the WC plank, big enough to hold the backsides of church priests – yes, via the parochial pigsty! Santan and his younger sibling then vanished. He resurfaced in Calcutta, started a band and, a step at a time, wended his way up – to become North India’s biggest bandmaster, based in Calcutta. He was reputed to have had 600+ musicians at call. He ran the region’s most successful music enterprise, playing at clubs, cine-theatres (in that age of silent cinema), nightclubs or wherever music was needed. He became the ultimate choice at Maharaja weddings, where between 300 to 500 musicians was the sterling standard. As my father, then a young doctor in the erstwhile ‘Indian Army Medical Corps,’ who had witnessed one of Santan Cota’s maharaja wedding dos, would wryly comment, “for Indian royalty, louder the sound better the music.” Santan had arrived on the big league. It was only then that he decided to visit Goa. The first thing he did upon arrival was to call at the Holy Spirit Church – and return the money he pinched, his seed capital, obviously blessed, that had made him a man. In multiples of the stolen amount. Were it not for that feast-day collection, and his own daring to put it to productive use, he might have languished for life, never to realise his big dream, never to exercise his acumen for business – in a monumental waste! He rebuilt the old ramshackle ‘Oji Pannd’ house into a plush, partly storeyed mansion. Then married Cecilia Artemisia Silveira Vital, from Divar. Their portrait hangs in a place of pride in the large hall of the Tembi-Margao home. The couple had no issue. Santan was so wealthy that he purchased dozens of properties in Salcete – including rights to the coconut produce on either side of the road from Margao to Assolna! Just one of his properties called Firgulem-Mandopa – today’s “Shantinagar” – a colony of 300+ plots at Aquem-Baixo, accounts for a substantial segment of suburban Margao’s middle class. In his heyday, such was the music maestro’s wealth that an adage gained currency: “Santan Cota caga notas / Deita fibras / Mija libras.” Santan Cota excretes (currency) notes / Throws off worms (with the currency notes) / Urinates (gold) sovereigns. Santan, from all accounts, was not only a man of music and honour, but of charity. He founded a public charity, ‘Associação Pão de Santo António’ for the destitute in his native Curtorim. From the moment he began earning in Calcutta, he put his younger sibling through the best English education the former capital of British India and nearby hill stations like Darjeeling and Kurseong could buy. Socorro eventually landed in the judicial services of Bengal, retiring as Registrar of the Calcutta High Court. Some time after his own marriage, Santan began looking out for a match for his brother. During a summer break, he spotted a young lady, “of exceptional beauty,” at the Margao church. He discovered that Maria Guilhermina Idalina Felicidade de Sá, like his wife, also hailed from Divar. From there, he found that Guilhermina had an unmarried sister, Idalina (“Idu”) Hortencia Casmira de Sá. He had no difficulty getting “Idu” to be his sister-in-law, married just a few score metres from where her elder sister Guilhermina was married. Guilhermina was my father’s mother. (To conclude.) (Ends.) The Valmiki Faleiro weekly column at: http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=330 == The above article appeared in the September 7, 2008 edition of the Herald, Goa
