[Goanet] Daily Grook #213
DAILY GROOK #213 __ HEIGHT SIGHT __ by Francis Rodrigues giraffes shave at great high-it, i see they have the knack for it! _ puns & word-play of all kinds, if you read between the lines! _ _
[Goanet] Fwd: Manmohan lets Indians down
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 1:56 pm Subject: Manmohan lets Indians down Dear Goanet readers Floriano Lobo wrote> The qualification one?requires to lead a state or a nation is to have BxxxS All our current Politicians DO?have BxxxS and Brains.? What they don't have is?a?HEART and COURAGE OF CONVICTION. After Mahatma Gandhi, the only Leader we had was Jay Prakash Narayan.In many ways,Nehru Dynasty has been a curse to India.They encouraged Dynasty Rule?and did not encourage new leadership. Indian politics is based on?Caste and Religion and not on Good Governance and Quality Leadership.This?is the same country which was in the forefront?against Ant-Apartheid Movement.yet, It has the worst Apartheid in world in the name of CASTE SYSTE.Its all about POWER,and Politicians all over the world will use CASTE, COLOR, RELIGION,ETC. TO GET INTO POWER. It is time, good people stand up?and?actively participate in Politics. There is no point in standing on sidelines and doing Post Mortems.?The Cure for this Political Malaise lays IN GOOD?GOVERNANCE WHICH REQUIRES QUALITY LEADERSHIP. Cheers Anesimo Looking for spoilers and reviews on the new TV season? Get AOL's ultimate guide to fall TV.
[Goanet] All aboard for a royal ride
<1) The efficient airports in the world are run by companies that are established to make profits. All that any govt should be concerned about is providing basic health, education and utility services for its residents. Every time the govt tries to use taxes to run what should be for profit enterprises, the govt will wind up using tax payers money to subsidize the project. Good tax money is burnt on unprofitable ventures.2) Montreal has the mothers of all dual airports. Both airports are unprofitable as they have to compete against each other.3) Every air force flight that takes off from Dabolim is burning your tax rupees, removing money from the economy. Every civilian flight that arrives at Dabolim brings tourists with (spending) money to boost the Goan economy. The sooner the centre comes to its senses, the better it is going to be for the residents of Goa.>[Mervyn Lobo] 1) The last time I checked there were only a handful of airports around the world set up by "companies". BAA in the UK may be one. The others are in India! 2) No one denies that the two airport system of Montreal has had problems. That may have led to the over-reaction in the industry of closing an existing airport to boost the new one. This is what happened at Bangkok until other problems forced a reopening of the old. It wont be a bed of roses for Goa either but the onus is on the government of Goa to do what is in the best interests of its people. Blindly relying on mantras like "two airports can co-exist", "PPP is the answer", "let investors decide" etc is not the answer. 3) I can empathise with your reasoning but in the end it may just be wishful thinking in the national security context and given the state of the civilian-military interface in India. Good luck in your efforts.
[Goanet] Will Kids be smarter with Laptops?
While Aires bullet still in air, education minister Monserrate announced that PCs given under the cyberage scheme were being phased out from the next session. "All schools will be provided internet connectivity so that the student community can stay wired up," the minister said, adding that Goa will be the first state in the country to provide such a facility. According to minister, about 12,000 students will benefit from the scheme. Monserrate has proposed to distribute laptops with the budget allocated earlier for personal computers. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Goa news for September 10, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Vedanta to boost Sesa Goa iron ore capacity, restructure group - domain-B , India - 7 hours agoMumbai: Vedanta Resources Plc proposes to increase iron ore capacity at its Sesa Goa unit eightfold to 100 million tonnes in five years as it restructures ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/0-0&fd=R&url=http://www.domain-b.com/companies/companies_v/Vedanta/20080909_vedanta.html&cid=1244300436&ei=tQbHSNvpKoX6lQTIl7XbDA&usg=AFQjCNEesACxg7QppjUSH2dvEHt6KU7Ypw *** Mark Jacobs Dumps on GOA Over Warhammer Online Problems - Escapist Magazine [7 hours ago] Mythic co-founder Mark Jacobs has laid the blame for the Warhammer Online open beta registration debacle squarely at the feet of GOA, the company handling ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/4-0&fd=R&url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/86167-Mark-Jacobs-Dumps-on-GOA-Over-Warhammer-Online-Problems&cid=0&ei=tQbHSNvpKoX6lQTIl7XbDA&usg=AFQjCNHSI_T3LZacwfVBEK2h_lPJk9SuJA *** \'Goa\'s corruption level alarming\' - Times of India [Sep 7, 2008] PANAJI: Goa has an ˜alarming levelof corruption, finds a study involving below poverty level families vis-Ã -vis their access to public services. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goas_corruption_level_alarming/articleshow/3456829.cms&cid=0&ei=tQbHSNvpKoX6lQTIl7XbDA&usg=AFQjCNGUL6kughKCJVB1plsGhoZF2vTymQ *** Goa to get bigger share of IFFI pie - Herald Publications [19 hours ago] According to officials, Goa may now be handling a part of foreign programming in addition to the Indian premieres and retrospective. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/8-0&fd=R&url=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=9582&cid=2&cid=0&ei=tQbHSNvpKoX6lQTIl7XbDA&usg=AFQjCNFx6ZdcSheingW9hVXxq9XU5Rsgqw *** Jacobs on WAR beta: "GOA messed up - Eurogamer [15 hours ago] "This is not an excuse for GOA," Jacobs said. "We had a number of conversations with them today about everything that happened. "GOA messed up and their CEO ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/7-0&fd=R&url=http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=233063&cid=0&ei=tQbHSNvpKoX6lQTIl7XbDA&usg=AFQjCNHc1hFs3PhFCkIh4ImbvuI9HNAS3A *** Mythic blame Goa for Euro problems - Play.tm [12 hours ago] "GOA messed up, theyapologized and they are working hard to do better," Jacobs offers. "This is a good start but not an excuse for them. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://play.tm/story/21166&cid=0&ei=tQbHSNvpKoX6lQTIl7XbDA&usg=AFQjCNErTOcdzriOtNJfH70Wu4kAt6lTPA *** Tata Indicom Crosses Six Million Subscriber Mark in Mumbai ... - Indiantelevision.com [10 hours ago] Keeping pace with the rapid subscriber growth in Mumbai, Rest of Maharashtra and Goa, TTML has made substantial progressin upgrading its networks to 3 G ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/5-0&fd=R&url=http://www.indiantelevision.com/release/y2k8/sep/seprel23.php&cid=1244317624&ei=tQbHSNvpKoX6lQTIl7XbDA&usg=AFQjCNFy2CZdqc03hSz8ewEeP37V7AGkBw *** Goa records a dozen accidents a day - Times of India [Sep 8, 2008] PANAJI: Goa's affinity with accidents continues. According to the latest data collected by the state's traffic department, 12 accidents are reported ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa_records_a_dozen_accidents_a_day/articleshow/3460509.cms&cid=0&ei=tQbHSNvpKoX6lQTIl7XbDA&usg=AFQjCNFrndm1fY1eSBG9FN-9lgWed-WUbw *** Goa Std III kids to get tech savvy - Times of India [Sep 8, 2008] PANAJI: Standard three students of Goa will be learning to handlecomputers from the next academic year onwards. "We have already prepared the proposal to ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goa_Std_III_kids_to_get_tech_savvy/articleshow/3460513.cms&cid=0&ei=tQbHSNvpKoX6lQTIl7XbDA&usg=AFQjCNGAZIxkYTbBFfaq0nhnOeBNCc75Xg *** Now, Arab sheikhs want to create a Goa in Middle-East - Economic Times [13 hours ago] AHMEDABAD: The fascination for Indian ambience is getting these ready-to-plant 20-25 feet trees, which have travelled all across the Arabian Ocean to add to ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/ET_Cetera/Now_Arab_sheikhs_want_to_create_a_Goa_in_Middle-East/articleshow/3460252.cms&cid=0&ei=tQbHSNvpKoX6lQTIl7XbDA&usg=AFQjCNGTPEnvhDXSVXkjSnxcMwfUsTFgyg Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Orissa attacks: What our fellow brethren say?
Ancy D'Souza ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >I can remember when I volunteered (NSS) for a school ground construction >somewhere>near Venur, Moodabidri we used to stay in a Convent. There was one >Father called Fr.>William (if my memory was right), he used to play hindu >suprabhatams in church just>keeping in mind there were hindu volunteers. Ancy, his name is Fr. William Martis. He is from Malpe. He was an LIC Manager. He joined priesthood at the age of 38. He is a close friend of mine. He sports a long white beard. He spent seven years in Venur parish. He was their father, brother, friend, lawyer, guide, and judge. In short, he was everything to his parishioners regardless whether they were Christians, Hindu or Muslims. They took their troubles to him and he sorted them out for them. He even marched to the police station to demand justice for his parishioners, and he succeeded: Why, because they were all united, regardless of their religion. When he was transferred from Venur to Mulky, parishioners arranged a big farewell reception for him. The Bishop of Mangalore was present for the reception. I was one of the invited guests for the event. Fifteen minutes before the mass could commence, I saw a large procession head towards the church preceded by a brass band. As the procession approached the church, I saw three separate processions with three separate brass bands. When I asked why there were three processions, I was told they represented the three communities of the parish – Christians, Hindus and Muslims. All of them entered the church, attended the mass and ate lunch, which was served on the floor of the church on banana leaves. Fr. Martis was so overwhelmed with their presence that he cried when he gave the farewell speech. You won’t believe he received one truck-load of gifts, which he distributed to the poor. I never saw such religious harmony anywhere in my lifetime and perhaps will never see. Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Gaumvaddy, Anjuna Bardez, Goa-403 509 Mob: 09420979201/Res: 0832-2274954 _ Searching for weekend getaways? Try Live.com http://www.live.com/?scope=video&form=MICOAL
[Goanet] Sharada Mandir's Ex-Students' Association
Sharada Mandir's Ex-Students' Association: http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34078123136&ref=mf -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org Blog: http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Tech links from South Asia: http://twitter.com/fn
Re: [Goanet] All aboard for a royal ride
>> 1) Let the contractors (and not the people of Goa) bear the >> burden of making the new airport profitable. >> 2) Two civilian airports is the dumbest of all ideas. >> 3) It's time the Indian Govt took a clue from Cuba who >> turned eight air force fields into international airports. >Philip Thomas replied: >Confucius say (well sort of): >1) There is no such thing as a free chowmein. >2) Necessity is the mother of invention >3) Dont hold your breath. Once again, Philip: 1) The efficient airports in the world are run by companies that are established to make profits. All that any govt should be concerned about is providing basic health, education and utility services for its residents. Every time the govt tries to use taxes to run what should be for profit enterprises, the govt will wind up using tax payers money to subsidize the project. Good tax money is burnt on unprofitable ventures. 2) Montreal has the mothers of all dual airports. Both airports are unprofitable as they have to compete against each other. 3) Every air force flight that takes off from Dabolim is burning your tax rupees, removing money from the economy. Every civilian flight that arrives at Dabolim brings tourists with (spending) money to boost the Goan economy. The sooner the centre comes to its senses, the better it is going to be for the residents of Goa. Mervyn3.0 __ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Babush should be given honorary S.S.C
When we have Dr. Vijay Mallya (wonder where Mallya "bought" his PhD from) and Dr. Jayalalitha, why not we can have at least Metric pass Babush? Come on, lots of schools will be willing to give Babush an honorary SSC. regards, Samir Btw a false affidavit should invalidate his election as an MLA itself. Isnt it as straightforward ?
[Goanet] Fwd: Letter to the Editors. (Stop Micon's Mega Project )
Subject: I have been following with keen interest, the spirited fight against mega-projects by the Benaulim Villagers. Mega Projects like Micons have to be stopped and razed to the ground. The Benaulim Villagers need all our support in this campaign to safeguard our home. Overseas Goans in particular, cannot afford to be silent spectators. Arwin Mesquita (UAE) -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/
[Goanet] Our Lady of Rosary High School, Goa ... alumni network
Our Lady of Rosary High School, Goa ... alumni network http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=20079044307&ref=mf -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org Blog: http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Tech links from South Asia: http://twitter.com/fn
[Goanet] Consumer Welfare Cell to organise lecture on Food Safety and Consumer Awareness
-- Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED -- --- Lecture on food safety --- Goa College of Home Science will commemorate National Nutrition Week by organizing numerous activities, from September 9 to September 16. The Consumer Welfare Cell of the college will organize a Lecture session on Food Safety and Consumer Awareness on September 11 at 2.30 pm at the college premises. Interested persons may contact Suvarna Gowri, the Activity Coordinator at the college during working hours. -- HERALD 4/9/08 page 4 -- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: [Goanet] Porbim!
Moi manadik ani urbechea bab Lino, Mojiín kalzant than bettoilolim porbim tuka mandun gue. Ó poilo zaun assaanink zaite tajea fattlant ieunni. Ani porbeachém bebid meuta ten´nam gevchem... Tumcho mogan and bhorpur khoxalkaient, Lotlechó bhav Alfred > Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 20:52:55 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > goanet@lists.goanet.org> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Porbim!> > Bab Domnic,> > > Tumchea movall utramni dil'lim porbim pavlim. Dev Borem Korum> > Lino > Dourado> 9765675610> _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline
[Goanet] GOA SUDHAROP: Education event in Goa
In connection with GOA SUDHAROP's 2008 theme YEAR OF EDUCATION, please see event below. Thank you to all donors, supporters and well-wishers of Goa Sudharop. Goa Sudharop www.goasudharop.org _ GOA SUDHAROP & ROTARY CLUB OF CUNCOLIM, jointly co-sponsor and present “Effective Discipline in Schools” – a teachers training programme on Thursday, September 25, 2008 from 9am to 5pm at Maria Bambina Convent School Hall, Cuncolim Participants: 60 teachers from schools in Goa The workshop aims at increasing skills to handle emotional and behaviour issues in children, as well as create respectful discipline in schools. The focus will be on practical strategies, taking actual examples and case studies from classrooms. Methods of training will include group discussion, lectures, case discussions and skill building exercises. Resource Person: Dr. Nandita de Souza (Pediatrician) from Sethu Centre for Child Development & Family Guidance, Altinho, Goa. Topics:- Case discussions - Handling behaviour problems in school children - Classroom management skills – creating an atmosphere of mutual caring and respect - Building cooperation in the class room - Discipline policies for schools Programme: - 8.30 – 9.00 - Registrations 9.00 – 9.30 - Welcome, Inauguration, Introduction 9.30 – 11.00 - Behaviour Management (Part I) 11.00 – 11.30 – Tea Break 11.30 – 13.00 - Behaviour Management (Part II) 13.00 – 14.00 - Lunch Break 14.00 – 15.30 - Discipline Policies for Schools 15.30 – 16.00 - Question Time 16.00 – 16.20 - Tea Break 16.20 – 17.00 – Wrap Up and Presentation of Certificates Ibonio D’Souza Dr. Samuel Board Member, Goa Sudharop President, Rotary Club of Cuncolim Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Goanet] Now, Arab sheikhs want to create a Goa in Middle-East
AHMEDABAD: The fascination for Indian ambience is getting these ready-to-plant 20-25 feet trees, which have travelled all across the Arabian Ocean to add to the grandeur of designer backyards of the cash-rich Arabs. Commanding a price between Rs 200 and Rs 5,000 per tree, the exports have been booming over the years. The region has taken a fancy to other species like gulmohar, peltophorum, spathodea, neem, sapodilla (chiku), sweet lime (mosambi), which are native to the sub-continent. Landscaping business in Middle East and South East Asia has assumed mammoth proportions. People have begun opting for Indian trees for their designer backyards. The likes of coconuts, palm varities, mangoes and other species of tall trees are in demand, Indian Flowers and Ornamental Plants Welfare Association (iFlora) president S Jafar Naqvi told ET. For instance, not so long ago, iFlora had facilitated export of close to 2,000 coconut palms to Saudi Arabia for an Arab client who wanted to create a Kerala in his backyard, he added. Not surprising that several Indian varieties of trees have found a place in and around, the much-touted architectural wonder of the planet, Burj Dubai Tower. Devoid of greens, Middle East has been eyeing India for the trees. To make the Burj Dubai Tower green, landscape architects sought Indian tree varieties from us, said Indian Nurserymen Association senior vice president Anil Vashi. With a nursery spanning over 150 acres in South Gujarats Navsari district, Mr Vashi has been exporting trees to UAE since last four years. Trees of the sub-continent are a great hit among those looking for an Indian ambience. Thanks to that fancy, close to 40,000 trees make their way to the Middle East countries annually, added the horticulturist who exports close to 25,000 trees annually. Kerala-based AVT biotechnology has exported saplings of 10,000 coconut palms to UAE a few years ago. We do not export trees on a regular basis, but in the past we had airlifted coconut saplings for the Dubai municipality, said president and CEO of the company M Thomas Jacob. A lot of regulations are involved in tree exports. The process of packaging the trees which involves washing of the soil from the roots and placing it in an intert media is a tedious and time-taking process, Mr Jacob explained. One of the largest nurseries in Delhi, Samat Farms is also eyeing the huge export market for trees in the Middle East and countries of South East Asia. The tree market in India is over Rs 100 crore. Currently, we grow about 1,500 trees including cycas, palms, flowering and shade-trees, which fetch us about Rs 60 lakhs. We are also interested in tapping the lucrative market in the Middle East where there is a lot of scope for selling different art plants, said K C Sharma, a horticulturist and the proprietor of Samat Farms and Nurseries. Samat currently caters to landscape designers in Hyderabad and Pune within the country. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Now_sheikhs_want_to_create_a_Goa_in_Middle-East/articleshow/3460252.cms
Re: [Goanet] Oh Dear Parrikar
Dear Sandeep You wrote: "My shoe soles had given way and I wanted to ask my maid to get them stitched by a cobbler who lives next door to her house. My maid does not understand Hindi or English and I converse with her strictly in Konkani. I found myself at a loss of words, particularly in the light of the feathers that had been ruffled in the Assembly over Parrikar's statement and the sentiments being hurt thereof. I always thought that "chamar" meant cobbler in Konkani but with the ruckus and din of the last several days, I did not want to land myself in a soup over this. Was "chamar" an offensive word, did it signify a lowly caste or did it signify one's profession? I was seriously very confused. Would I offend my maid if I were to use the word "chamar" in my diction? " ... Sandeep, the next time you want to write a fable, just send me a line, and I'll offer you something better than this pathetic "maid up story" As far as I'm aware, you live in Goa, and I presume that you must be at least over 35 years of age, therefore you should be very well aware about the connotations of caste names. At least now the notion of "affdunk' or 'touchability' has thankfully disappeared, but when I was young, meaning some 35 years ago, it was still prevalent. It meant that there were some people whom you could touch and drink their water and drink their tea so on without any worry. And there were others you could not. I learnt this first hand where I lived then, in my 'ancestral house' in Sangolda, under the same roof as a Shet family, who were themselves looked down upon by Saraswats although they wore a 'zanvem' and called themselves Daivadnya Brahmins'. But although that extreme has had to be abandoned - how can it survive when one has to travel in buses where who knows who touches whom - even today, I hear remarks directed at different castes. Allow me to give you a sample of some comments which I have personally heard. 1] '"Arre te hankam chaddeio sangat, tankam chaddio sangtat, he chaddeponna kiteak ? Kiteak te chadde mure!!" [Translation -they tell tales about these, they tell tales about those - Why? Because they are Chaddes (there is a play of words between Charde the caste and Chaddieo sangpi - the tale-tellers) ] This is regarding the Catholic Chardo community - this remark was from a Hindu government servant, who from appearances was low caste. 2] "Arre te Bamon mure, Bamongiri korpachi sovoinch tankam?" Translaton - These are Brahmins - they have the habit of bossing around Brahmin - style. [This is a comment variations of which I have heard very often, with reference to both Saraswat and non-Saraswat Hindu Brahmins, but also with regard to Catholic Brahmins] I am not going to go on giving quotes about other castes, but I think that by now you have got my drift, Sandeep. There is no way you could be so innocent as you pretend to be. When someone uses the word 'chamars' in a public sphere, the intention, consciously or unconsciously. is to denigrate. Luckily for Parrikar, the Great Rane was in the chair during that Assembly session. Or else we could have seen something historic in the literature of anti-caste-discrimination. Regards Augusto -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India E [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
[Goanet] The creeping culture of corruption in Goa.
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 22:24:08 +0100 From: ignatius fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Then our cousin said he found a person who would do the job for us but > it would only be done if we bribed the officer and his peon. Out of > desperation we agreed. We paid 500 rupees to the officer and 200 rupees > to his peon,and this on our last day in Goa. > Mario observes: > Iggy, > Kitem mhontai, re? Only Rs. 500 and Rs. 200?? > Bribe? God forbid Think of this as lunch money. > Consider yourself lucky my friend. This is a small price to pay, for someone who lives in the UK, for what you and your family had failed to take care of before your father passed away. >
[Goanet] BABUSH GIVEN ANOTHER 2 DAYS TO PROVE HIS SSC OR QUIT
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 10:46:59 +0530 From: "Aires Rodrigues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Utt Goenkara has today extended to September 9th the deadline given to > Mr. Atanasio Monserrate to prove his SSC or resign as Goa's Education > Minister for having falsely filed an affidavit that he had passed S.S.C > though he had not even completed 8th standard. > Mario's advice: > Babushbab, > Why not do the SSC test, re? After all, you already have a Ph.D. in chalaki-baji - Goa style:-)) Surely you can pass the SSC test with all the chalaki-baji you have learned over the years, enough to become a mega-crore-patti while your critics are still struggling to make their first lakh. As Education Minister, if nothing else, you can get the questions and the answers as well. > While you are at it, get a B.Sc. and an M.Sc. too. It will look good on your resume. All this will take two weeks, tops:-)) > Good luck. It looks like you don't have much time. > Come over for a drink the next time I'm in Goa, neighbor, and I'll teach you if you cannot find anyone else:-)) You must have learned something already about economics, interest rates and the price of gold from my patient lectures on Goanet:-)) > I assume you know where to get the best feni, if nothing else:-)) The rest is easy if you apply yourself. >
Re: [Goanet] Manmohan lets Indians down
--- On Sat, 9/6/08, Sandeep Heble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Selma, > > I have no issues with you when you, for whatever reasons, feel inspired > by the Nehru-Gandhi Family and believe that they are the best to lead > India. > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 16:17:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dear Sandeep, I'm beginning to realise rather late in life that I have a schoolgirl's crush on Nehru. > Mario observes: > So did Lady Mountbatten:-)) Schoolgirl crushes cannot, by definition, enable one to think straight:-)) > Not to interrupt this revisionist Sandeep-Selma love-fest or anything, but the cold hard facts are that while Nehru was an architect of India's freedom and independance and deserves credit for his epic and historic role in that effort, he was also the architect of India's failed 50-year experiment with Fabian socialism, carried on by his daughter, Indira, that, by exalting a small cadre of ruling elites and showing contempt for the personal decisionmaking ability of almost everyone else, wrought so much economic havoc, waste, poverty, bureaucracy, corruption and misallocation of resources and formed the basis of the massive brain drain that benefited mostly the western democracies. > Selma wrote: > Sonia Gandhi is not cut from the same cloth as the Nehrus, although I dare say she is an honest lady of substance. Manmohan definitely has his strengths, perhaps jumping in the fray is not one of them. > Mario responds: > Unlike Nehru, Sonia Gandhi has the wisdom to know her place in the Indian hierarchy and where her strengths are most effective, and the secure mentality to delegate responsibilities to others more qualified than her in running the country. > While the relatively charisma-free Manmohan Singh should have been far more proactive in quelling communal violence in Orissa and other places, it was he, supported by Sonia Gandhi and other modern leaders, who is the architect of India's economic resurgence after dumping Nehru's failed economic policies on the thrash heap of history where they clearly belonged. > Nehru cannot change the damage he caused to millions of Indians, but Manmohan Singh still has time to become as proactive in curbing social unrest as he is in developing and implementing economic policies that make sense given that he has communists to contend with and a history of extreme socialism to overcome. > I hope he has learned that a leader cannot focus on one aspect of running a country while ignoring others. >
[Goanet] O Dear Dears
> From: augusto pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > And BTW Roland, I happen to be married, and if you ever > think I'm wimpish just make sure you never come close to my fists. > Mario suggests: > Augusto, > Calm down, man. To begin with I want you on my side if there is a fight in Goa - I may want you to punch out a couple of people in Goa for me every now and then:-)) When I'm ready I'll send you a private email, but I need you to stay calm in the meantime:-)) I bet you know where to get the best feni in Bardez, which I'm always looking for when I come to Goa!!! > Hey, you'll have to show me Celina's house in Moira if we can get past Tony who is keeping a close watch at what she is up to:-)) > As a self-proclaimed elder member of Goanet, and certainly the most fair and balanced, may I make a suggestion from my vast experience? Calling people "dears" willy nilly would be something I would have to defend with my fists if I started using it where I live. Nevertheless, I think calling this, " a kind of a gay, wimpish, transvestite-sounding word." is going too far. Roland should apologize for his brutish comments, or at least avoid you and your fists in future. > Where I live we call our friends, "Yo, man...", or "Hey, Jack..." or "Hey, Dogface..." and I can't even mention what we call our adversaries because that would never get past the Goanet moderators:-)) I think we'd call you, "Hey, A-Pin" > If you cannot bring yourself to be as creative and eloquent as what I have mentioned above, then I suggest you use sophisticated euphemisms like the British, "ladies and gentlemen", or the informal American, "guys", or "people" or "folks", or the universal, "my friends". >
[Goanet] UK: Scandal of recycled rubbish dumped up in India
7 Sep: The Sunday Mirror (UK). A TV investigative report has revealed the rubbish sorted for recycling by British families is being shipped 4,000 miles to India and dumped on farmland It costs up to £148 to recycle a tonne of rubbish in the UK once it is separated but as little as £40 to ship it to India The programme was broadcast on ITV1 at 8pm Mon. 8 Sep. For a synopsis see http://www.itv.com/News/tonight/episodes/Arubbishservice/default.html To watch the programme (30 mins) online (before 8 Oct 2008) see http://www.itv.com/CatchUp/Video/default.html?ViewType=5&Filter=26248 Eddie Fernandes www.goanvoice.org.uk
[Goanet] Sisters of Mother Teresa assaulted by Hindu radicals and arrested by police
Sisters of Mother Teresa assaulted by Hindu radicals and arrested by police by Nirmala Carvalho The fundamentalists attacked the religious, accusing them of the "kidnapping and forced conversion" of four children between one and two years old. Although their identification documents were in order, the children were taken away from the sisters and put in a government hospital. Tough condemnation by the Indian Church. 09/06/2008 12:40 New Delhi (AsiaNews) - The Missionaries of Charity are again in the crosshairs of the fundamentalists: yesterday, September 5 - the anniversary of the death of Mother Teresa of Calcutta - four sisters of Mother Teresa were attacked by about 20 Bajrang Dal activists at the Durgh train station in Chhattisgarh, a state in central India. The Hindu radicals forced them off the train, and then handed them over to police officers while chanting anti-Christian slogans. The Hindu fundamentalists accused the sisters - Sr Mamta, the mother superior, Sr Ignacio, Sr Josephina, and Sr Laborius - of the "kidnapping and forced conversion" of four children between one and two years old, whom the religious were taking from their home in Raipur to the Shishu Bhava charity center in Bhopal. The activists followed the women to the police station, "insulting them and chanting slogans against the Christians". The sisters presented all of the identification documents for the children and their travel permit, in addition to other documentation brought later by the religious from the house in Bilaspur. In spite of this documentation, the children were taken to be housed temporarily at the government hospital in Durg, while the documents and identity papers presented by the sisters are verified by the judicial authorities. "The mob threatened to beat us up, but I was not afraid", Sr Mamta tells AsiaNews. Her only concern is for the children, who require care and assistance, "but most of all our love. We love these darlings like our own, that is our pain". The sister says that she "prayed to Mother Teresa" (yesterday was the anniversary of her death, and her liturgical feast day), entrusting the "well-being of the children" to her. She emphasizes that this new episode of "persecution" is an integral part of the missionary task of "witnessing to Christ" entrusted to them by the founder of the order. Although she got no sleep during the night spent at the police station, the following morning - today, September 6 - she took part in Mass, "thanking God and our beloved Mother Teresa". The Indian Catholic Church has taken a tough stance, through the head of the bishops' conference, who denounces the climate of hostility and terror toward Christians. "I am absolutely shocked", says Cardinal Osvaldo Gracias, "at the baseless and fabricated allegations of conversion levied against the Missionary of Charity". The prelate stresses that he knew "Mother Teresa personally, and I was also involved with her mission, and I can vouch for the fact that never has any baby or anyone been converted by the Missionaries of Charity, either in the remotest rural area or in any part of the world". In condemning this new attack against the Christians, Cardinal Gracias accuses those who "are instrumental in poisoning minds" and foster interconfessional confrontation: "This is a climate of intolerance [against Christians] that is growing in the country, and it will have serious drastic long-term effects on Indian society". This new episode of violence against the sisters confirms the growing climate of hostility toward Christians, in the crosshairs of the Hindu fundamentalists who are seeking by every means to eliminate their mission and their charitable works in the country. The tribals, the Dalits - untouchables - and the many orphaned children find in Christianity and in the activity of the religious a way to improve their condition and bring dignity to their lives. By attacking the Christians, the Hindu fundamentalists are above all harming India and its people, anchoring it in a feudal and backward past, based on the hierarchy determined by caste and by slavery. http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=13151
Re: [Goanet] Fined for speaking Konkani
Paulo, I promise you that next time I speak to you, I will speak in 'Konkani'. Hope no one would not fine us. Amchea vodilanchi Konknni bhas uloyam ani vaddoyam. Mog assundi ani vaddoni Cip --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Paulo Colaco Dias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are numerous advantages in speaking more than one language. Contrary to what people may think, studies have revealed that children are capable of learning many different languages at the same time very easily and excel in at least 2 of them. It is good that in Goa our children learn and speak so many languages. Goan Parents should not stop talking in Konkani to our children as Konkani is indeed the main marker of our Goan identity. Best wishes Paulo Colaco Dias. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:goanet- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Domnic Fernandes > Sent: 06 September 2008 03:14 > To: Goanet Goanet > Subject: [Goanet] Fined for speaking Konkani > > Fr. Ephraim was the Boarding Headmaster of St. Anthony's High School in > Monte de Guirim. He was the one who always strolled up and down the > corridors of the school with a book in one hand and a cane in the other. > > It is true, we were not allowed to speak in Konkani and those who were > caught were given cane-beating. Fr. Ephraim was a lefty. As soon as one > was caught, he would ask him to stretch out his hand. He would then cane > the student according to his mood. He mostly gave one cane on each hand, > but if you moved away your hand and if he missed his shot, there was no > count of canes - he would beat you everywhere! > > I was caught speaking Konkani only once. At around 8:00 pm, we were > chatting in Konkani at the urinals which were quite far away from main > corridors. We never expected Fr. Ephraim to come to that spot but there > he was like a devil standing before us; his spectacles shining with > reflection of light bulb. He looked at us and said: 'Come on; come on; > show me your hand'. He gave two canes to Michael Botelho but only one for > me; maybe because I was caught for the first time. > > I am a great lover of Konkani. I was very sad when I was not allowed to > speak or read Konkani novels in the school.
Re: [Goanet] Roadmap to make Goa 'first world' State
Dear Gabriel, That is a tall order, indeed. Besides, you have it all wrong. Actualy, it is the other way round. It is the people that want illegalities overlooked and as a reward, they force the bribes on the politicians, bureaucrats et al. As for me, I have never been asked for a bribe. The reason is that I have never asked for illegalities to be regularised of overlooked. I will give you a mega example. I have gone to the HC pointing out illegalities of 3 major hotels in the Calangute belt. One of them is La Calypso. The HC has disposed the petition giving the CS (govt) 3 months to demolish all illegalities within 200 meters from the HTL. CS drags his feet and allows the hotel to have the full tourist season. Nine months on, nothing has been done. Therefore I give the CS an ultimatum with a threat of Contempt Petition. He orders demolition left, right and center where the swiming pool and the discothèque also goes. Owner of Calypso wants to meet me. I say no meeting but welcome to talk on phone. He wants me to help him out of his predicament, knowing fully well that if I do not move further, he goes scot free. (the petition is disposed and only I can make a problem. If I remain silent nothing happens). I say fine, I will help you. Call for a press conference. Tell the press how much you have paid the Calangute Sarpanch and the Calangute MLA for all the irregularities. He tells me "I am half dead already and you want to kill me". I say, suit yourself. BTW if nothing happens in the next 15 days, I go back to the HC with the Contempt Petition which is all ready and waiting. Goa Coastal Zone Management Authority(GCZMA) has been warned. I have received a call today from a known person who wanted to know what happened with the petition. He said he was on the beach with his cousin who has come from the UK and entered the La Calypso estate from the beach. That he was shooo'd away by the security saying it is private property. I told this guy the real story. Ultimately he said. "We thought you had been bought off". Indeed yes. I could have made a lot of money out of this. I still can, because I am in a commanding position. Calyspo stands to lose 5 of its posh bungalows, its swiming pool and its discotheque. This gone, they will be rendered out of high ended business. If I do not move, they get another season. Comprende? Gabriel, my friend. You want corruption eradicated? not just controlled?, then try to convince Goans that they have to look at GOA SU-RAJ PARTY. See if there are any takers. The Congress, the BJP, the NCP gives them what they want. Who needs Goa Su-Raj?? We have already been sounded off that one cannot clean the gutters without getting down into them. (meaning.. do not be so strict) . And we have rejected that advice saying that we will go for a by-pass if the gutter is unserviceable, but we will not get down into it. b/rgds floriano goasuraj. PS1: Our hope is that a world class university might wash the corrupt minds of Goans and Goa be delivered. Just a hope, though. PS2: We like Roadmaps :-)) - Original Message - From: "Gabriel de Figueiredo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Roadmap to make Goa 'first world' State Florian-bab, First step towards making Goa a 'first-world' state is to curb the corruption - and from my point of view, it starts with the people. Educate them enough to create a stink should they be requested for a bribe, or, should the work which is expected to be completed in a reasonable space of time, is not completed. Only once the place is "cleaned up" of corruption can one contemplate on 'first-worldness'. Just my thoughts. And as a few netters have stated before, probably a useless piece of advice from afar. Anyhow, I have stated the obvious. Cheers, Gabriel. --- On Mon, 8/9/08, floriano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: floriano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Roadmap to make Goa 'first world' State To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Received: Monday, 8 September, 2008, 10:21 PM ROADMAP TO MAKE GOA 'FIRST WORLD' STATE Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset
Re: [Goanet] No Portuguese Pasport ? or can't go to UK ? Why not try Australia?
Dear Fellow Goans, Please do a verification check before selecting an agent The agent has not advertised the Registration number which is a statutory requirement Give us a call PROFILE Glenn Pereira – Director Registered Migration Agent since 1992 - Registration Number 9251523 Glenn has over 14 years experience in Immigration Law as a migration agent and has worked on a number of cases including : -Sponsorship of overseas employees to work temporary in Australia (now known as 457 visas) -General Skilled Migration and Skills Assessments -Review Applications including Migration Review Tribunal and Administrative Appeals Tribunal He holds a -Bachelor of Science -Diploma in Administrative Management -Bachelor of Law Mumbai University -Fellow of the Narottam Morajee Institute of Shipping (Mumbai) -Fellow of the Institute of Chartered Ship brokers in London. -Glenn was actively involved in resourcing staff for the ICT industry in the early nineties and is currently the CEO of the Culinary Institute of Australia. He is registered by the State and Commonwealth Government to operate a Hospitality Institute up to the level of Diploma Valerie da Gama Pereira – Director Barrister & Solicitor of the Supreme Court of Victoria Registered Migration Agent since 1992 - Registration Number 9251530 Valerie has over 14 years experience in Immigration Law and has worked on a number of cases including : -Sponsorship of overseas employees to work temporary in Australia (now known as 457 visas) -General Skilled Migration and Skills Assessments -Review Applications including Migration Review Tribunal and Administrative Appeals Tribunal Judicial Review - Skilled Migration and Visa Cancellations She holds a -Bachelor of Arts -Diploma in Administrative Management -Bachelor of Law from the Mumbai University -Masters of Law from the Mumbai University -Masters of Law from Monash University -Graduate Diploma in Legal Practice from the College of Law in New South Wales. -She is a member of a number of professional associations including -Law Institute of Victoria -Australian Institute of Administrative Law -Immigration Lawyers Association of Australia -Law Council of Australia -Migration Institute of Australia. -She serves on the Executive Committee (Migration) of the Law Institute of Victoria. Regards Glenn Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JoeGoaUk Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2008 5:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] No Portuguese Pasport ? or can't go to UK ? Why not try Australia? No Portuguese Pasport ? or can't go to UK ? Why not try Australia? a huge display board has this ad at Panjim KTC Bus Stand (Entrance) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/2841717929/sizes/l/ Sometime ago, Goa Govt. banned some recruiting agencies and one of them was AXIS (don't know if it was Y or X axis) [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa
Re: [Goanet] Glimpses of Konknni
[A] Sebastian Borges wrote: not a single Konkani book in Roman script was printed between 1660 and 1890 any where in the world? And also that no Konkani book was printed in Goa even between 1890 and 1928? I hereby challenge Fr.Pratap Naik to prove me wrong on this count; and this is not the first time I am throwing this challenge. Miguel Braganza responded: Is the good Prof. S.M. Borges willing to swear an affidavit before a Notary to state that "not a single Konkani book in Roman script was printed between 1660 and 1890 any where in the world? And also that no Konkani book was printed in Goa even between 1890 and 1928? " as alleged by him? I am willing to take him on his challenge with evidence to the contrary. It exists. JC's response: Dear Miguelbab, I have two problems with the above. Firstly, Prof. S.M. Borges has not challenged Miguel Braganza. He has challenged Fr.Pratap Naik to prove him wrong. Just because you have the actual facts does not mean that others are not entitled to their own manufactured facts. Have you not heard of gene-modification (GM) in agriculture? So - what is wrong with a little fact modification (FM) in debates? Politicians and their operatives do it all the time. Do they not? Secondly, Prof. S.M. Borges has not advised us what he will undertake to do IF he is proven wrong. This is a one-sided Borgesian challenge. Now, here is my Borgesian challenge [1] to Prof. S.M. Borges: Prove that the language you purport to speak and write, is Konkani. [B] Sebastian Borges wrote: Fr. Naik also exploded his own pet myth: that Devanagari script is of the Hindus whilst Roman script is of the Roman Catholics. Miguel Braganza responded: Can the good Prof. Borges produce any evidence where Fr. Pratap Naik SJ has SAID "Devanagari script is of the Hindus whilst Roman script is of the Roman Catholics" as claimed by the Prof. Why is the Prof. tripping over his own imagination? JC's response: Dear Miguelbab, I do not believe that Sebastian Borges wrote anywhere that Fr. Naik SAID that. He only wrote that it is his PET MYTH. I have many PET NON-MYTHS here is one: We as a people have allowed such matters to divide us while our land is being ripped off its resources by people who think that we are spectacularly stupid. We expend all this energy on Devanagri and Romi script for a supposed Konkani language which is NOT the Konkani language we generally speaknor spoke. We decapitated the Portuguese words which were part of our language and added Sanskrit or Marathi words which were NOT part of our language. We were told that THIS is the only way we should speak and write our language. It appears that Language was developed first, and then we Goans learnt to speak, and that Konkani was NOT meant to be living language which assimilated influences that time brings (or brought) along. No wonder we speak another colonial language i.e. English! Here is my Borgesian challenge [2] to Prof. S.M. Borges: Prove that Sanskrit is NOT a colonial language. While I await the good Prof. Borges' response to Miguel's gauntlet (I expect him to treat my Borgesian challenges with the contempt they deserve), I invite us to listen to this piece of music. Do please pay attention to the various instruments and, if you have the time, tell us if it reminds you of anything: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRz3aJE4tS0 much love jc
[Goanet] Re :Fined for speaking Konkani
Hi J. Colaco, MarshallIt's certainly good to know some of us are products of these highly regarded "Institutions" and I am sure you will agree with me that we should all respect these "institutions". I am very much lost, to see why educated people, try to discredit "Institutions" like Loyola for one's personal dislike for another, one's personal feeling should be kept personal, one should not blame the "Institution" for one's short comings of others.I am no fan of Dr. Barad or any one else on goanet and I absolutely have no problems if Dr. Barad is a doctor by profession or not, but I take it very personal when some body tries to discredit an "Institution" like Loyola, my village or Goa. If you have read my posts you will realise that.I still stand by what I said, Selma has no right to discredit an "Institution" like Loyola for her personal dislike for Dr. BaradBest regardsFreddy Agnelo Fernandes On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 08:13:18 -0400 "J. Colaco " wrotewrt the Freddy Fernandes post on this subjectJC1: I am delighted to learn that Freddy benefited from Loyola HighSchool, Margao. Loyola is a well known Jesuit institution like myalma mater St. Vincent's, Poona. Jesuits have done brilliant stuff foreducation in India and many other parts of the world. Thanks toindividuals like Ignatius Loyola and Francis Xavier, millions ofpeople have benefited. Education was and remains the key to breakingthe 'caste-barrier' in India. The main reason why so many casteistshate Francis Xavier. More about this at:http://www.colaco.net/1/sfx.htm (esp page 2)Freddy Fernandes also wrote: "Dr. Barad is a doctor by profession andI am sure he did not buy his degree or trying to bullshit hiscreditiantials like our elite Education Minister:"JC2: I am not sure about any 'elite' Education Minister or hisqualifications. Aires Rodrigues may or may not be right about him.WhenAires speaks, I automatically doubt - even though he may be right thistime around. Accordingly, I prefer to wait for the Minister to explainhimself.JC3: I am pretty confident that UG Barad is NOT a doctor 'byprofession'. I could be wrong about this and stand corrected if thatis indeed the case.JC4: There are three possibilities why the speaking of Konkani in anEnglish medium school may have been punished.a: The chaps spoke English poorly (as is common among the guys in Goa- not the girls) and needed language immersion techniques.b: The Konkani itself was badly spoken.(this is common too)c: It is INDECENT to speak in a different language in company whichmay not understand the language. It is quite embarrassing when in apublic meeting (in the West) with professionals from differentcountries, some desis insist on speaking to you in Hindi or Kannada. Ihave got past this nonsense by responding to the Hindiwallas inEnglish or not at all. Mercifully, I do not understand too muchKannada - si I can quite easily shrug my shoulders.BT W: At St. Vincent's (Poona): In class, we all spoke English. On theplay ground, we spoke English, Hindi or Marathi. At home, my parentsspoke to me in Portuguese, Konkani and English.I remember managing quite fine - and never being fined for anything.We knew that it was impolite to speak in 'tongues' while in thecompany of strangers. So, we adapted to the circumstances.BTW2: The polite and courteous Konkani my parents spoke and which, Ibelieve, I speak is quite different from this hyperSanskritisedS-Konkani that has been imposed upon post 1970 Goan students. Itsounds like an awful sounding nasal variety of a badly spoken dialectof Marathi with a tinge of an equally badly spoken dialect fromMangalorean Konkani. In short, it sounds quite rude and so differentfrom the polite Konkani spoken by the present Goa CM Digambar Kamat.I would fine myself if I spoke that rude sounding S-Konkani even to myself.good wishes to all.jc
[Goanet] Geraldine: Individuals cannot change this rotten system - Comments
Geraldine: Individuals cannot change this rotten system GRASSROOTS CHAMPIONS GT: 9 September, 2008 [Today, we feature Geraldine Fernandes, Chairperson, Benaulim Villagers Action Committee in part-III of the series 'Grassroots Champions' by Julio D'Silva. (excerpts) GT: What has been your experience with the authorities and elected representatives? GF: Horrible. They are all so corrupt, right from the bottom to the top, everybody is rotten. The elected representatives and specially the panchayat members are such sweet talkers that you believe that they are really interested in doing something. But their actions are just the opposite. GT: Do you have any plans to contest elections, maybe the next panchayat elections? GF: Last year when the panchayat elections were to be held, there were rumours that I was planning to contest. I am very clear in my mind. I shall work for the people without taking up any post. I shall not contest any elections. Comments: Geraldine, you cannot take yourself out of the race to clean the augean stables. You owe it to Goa and Goans. They have pinned high hopes on you. Many people have, i.e. Oscar Rebello, Patricia Pinto, Soter D'Souza, Aires Rodrigues... What signals are you people sending to the corrupt and the devious? That you will fight them from outside the ring? To have a bull fight, the bulls need to be in the ring and their horns must lock. Otherwise it is no bull-fight. GT: But don't you think people should be given a choice? GF: One or two good individuals cannot change this rotten system. We have seen that good people elected either get corrupt or are left by the roadside. If at all people want a change, they should elect a group of good people, as I feel that individuals cannot fight the existing system. comments: Very right. I have contested twice. Taleigao, against Babush Monserrate and Aldona, against Dayanand Narvekar. Geraldine, you join with me in the Goa Su-Raj Party. Goa Su-Raj has given Goa a most clean and uncorrupt system of governance, in writing. Check the Party's constitution and its Roadmap for Goa. You contest Benaulim. We field others everywhere. Let us give the people of Goa a choice. Then we shall see if Goans want a change or not. It is pointless to expect the prevalent systems to change for the better. Let us put the new system on the road and to test. BTW, during my election campaigns, I have gone on record to tell people not to vote for Floriano Lobo but to vote for Goa Su-Raj Party , its programs and its procedures before and after elections, for what it stand for. GT: You are painting a very gloomy picture, which can be interpreted like there is no hope. GF: There is hope. It is the people who have to awaken and make their elected representatives work the way they should be working like what is happening at the Gram Sabhas today. We have to educate the people and create awareness amongst them only then we shall see changes in the Goan society. Comments: Geraldine, we expect you to be smarter than that. How long do you want the people to check on their representatives? The moment the people turn their back, the representatives start filling their pockets? Aren't the representatives supposed to do what the people have elected them to do?? Do the people have to elect them and then keep guard over them? NONSENSE. People elect their representatives because they do not have the time. So let us get good people elected, but on a fool-proof system, a clean system and not a rotten system so they do not become rotten. In the later case, we are asking for trouble, which we are getting a plentiful, like in Benaulim. floriano goasuraj
Re: [Goanet] Govt can acquire land for public use - SC - COMMENTS
Govt can acquire land for public use: SC Herald - 8 Sept 2008 New Delhi - Amidst the debate over acquisition of agricultural lands for industrial units or Special Economic Zones (SEZs) , the Supreme Court has held that the Government as a 'sovereign power can acquire land for public purpose." The "public purpose" could include "Industrial and other infrastructural developmental needs for the common good of the citizens," a two-judge Bench of justices C K Thakker and D K Jain said. The Bench upheld the acquisition of vast tracts of agricultural and other lands by Andhra Pradesh Government in Ranga Reddy district adjoining Hyderabad city. Upholding the acquisition, the apex court said the State being a sovereign power under the doctrine of "Eminent Domain" as provided under the 1894 Land Acquisition has inherent rights to acquire land by paying suitable compensation to those displaced. "Eminent domain" may be defined as the right or power of a sovereign State to take private property for public use without the owner's consent upon the payment of just compensation. According tot he apex court "Eminent domain" is thus inherent power of a governmental entity to take privately owned property, especially land, and convert it to public use, subject to reasonable compensation for taking the lands. "It means nothing more or less than an inherent political right, founded on a common necessity and interest of appropriating the property of individual members of the community to the great necessities and common good of the whole society." The apex court observed. "Taking the facts in their entirely, we are of the view that the action of the State initiating acquisition proceedings for establishing and developing infrastructure project cannot be held contrary to law or objectionable," the apex court said while dismissing a batch of petitions filed by the aggrieved land owners. The land owners have filed the appeal in Supreme Court after the State High Court has rejected their plea challenging the acquisition of their land. COMMENTS We are sorry to say that this judgment is in bad taste in the absence of the apex court not putting down criterias for such land acquisitions. This judgment sets an over all bad precedent by giving a 'carte blanche' for vote-bank governments to do what they want at the expense of the private lands to please its vote banks. This judgment could be okay for a specific instance where the government has a valid reason for acquiring the lands. But this will be fatal if governments are given the liberty to acquire lands left right and centre in the name of public purpose. Let us give an example of what has actually happened (a small instance) right here in Goa, in Aldona, to be specific. The Local MLA (Dayanand Narvekar), in order to give a road access to a couple of houses of his voters, has made a road in the middle of a private property admeasuring 850 sq. meters without even bothering to find out who the owner is. As a matter of fact the owner didn't even know that a full fledged road has been cut into his property, forget about being compensated. With this judgment, the likes of Narvekars will have a field day destroying private (opponent) properties citing public purpose. The Apex court will have to review its judgment and set certain very important criterias for land acquisition. These criterias must be such that petty politicians and petty governments are prevented from playing havoc with private property owners for their petty gains. floriano goasuraj
[Goanet] Orissa Attacks: What our fellow brethren say ?
Dear Friends, I am presenting some of the comments from our Hindu Brethern regarding the recent Orissa attack in Daijiworld.com You may find these comments at with the victims testimonies at http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=50752&n_tit=Orissa%20Victims%20Narrate%20Heart%2Drending%20Sufferings Thilak Shetty, mangalore, dubai Saturday, September 06, 2008 It's really sad to hear. Personally I feel Christians are peace loving people and 3 Christian's educational institutions and hospitals are definitely helping all sects of Indians. Myself I have educated in a Christian institution, I have never gone through about any kind of religious preachings on that period. I can remember when I volunteered (NSS) for a school ground consruction somewhere near Venur, Moodabidri we used to stay in a Convent. There was one Father called Fr. William (if my memory was right), he used to play hindu suprabhatams in church just keeping in mind there were hindu volunteers. If saffron brigade can't improve the living standards of the downtrodden tribal people then they don't have any right to stop them from converting to Christianity. If down trodden people going to get good education, social life by accepting Christianity then it's good for India. Anyway I believe in God is one & religions are nothing but lifestyles. Rajesh, Udupi Saturday, September 06, 2008 Dear Jenifer it does not take much time to destroy and be labled a terrorist. Terrorism has not achieved anything. Today if the terror of the Safron is unleashing violence on peace loving Christians who believe in offering the other cheek to be slapped such acts will not go without reward. When Peter drew the sword to defend at the time of trouble Jesus ordered Peter to put the sword in its place... Violence is not Christian way and that is why we have no action from any authority either the state government or the central Government. Poor people have been Killed, burnt alive by the people in power and their affiliates the safron brigade. It gives us some consolation that there are but very few people like Thilak Shetty who speak up for the institutions and for the MISSIONARIES, for the WORK they do of IMPARTING CLEAN EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE, EMPOWERMENT AND INSTILLING VIRTUES INTO LITTLE HEARTS and make them better and educated individuals where they after earning such education good citizens of India, Good Hindus, Good Muslims, Good Christians... and GOOD HUMAN BEINGS OF WHAT EVER RELIGION THEY MAY BE We see that there are good majority of the Huge population that has been educated, trained and groomed by the institutions run by the christian education, health care, technical education institutions but they want to remain anonymous. They do not think they have a responsibility towards the society. There are a lot of individuals that have gained much fron these institutions and reached far and wide in the world, are doing very well in their life and they definately owe their success to these institutions and hospitals now their brothers in the SAFRON BRIGADE ATTACK, MURDER AND BURN OPENLY possibly supported and aided by power. It would be better for every person who has passed through these institutions of education, health care, technical education, and various fors of support in forming the individuals into BEING A FULLER AND BETTER HUMAN BEING CAPABLE OF STANDING UP TO A COMPETITIVE LIFE IN THE COMPETITIVE WORLD to speak up and testify and prove to their brothers ans sisters who have a criminal bent of mind and who are out to creating trouble in the peaceful world of the poor people in the tribal ares and the missionaries that are giving their selfless, rewardless service to the poor people. IT IS VERY SURPRICING THAT THE MINORITY THAT IS INTO SELFLESS GOOD WORK FOR THE BETTERMENT OF INDIAN SOCIETY AND HUMANITY AT LARGE IS BEING ACCUSED OF CONVERSION and the Governments and people in Power are waiting for a major calamity ? or Will the Culprits be brought to book and rewarded according to their actions. We want A SECULAR, PEACE LOVING, and democratic India for all peace loving citizens to live happyly side by side in unity and brotherhood. Thank you Mr. Ancy for covering the Bombay Catholic Sabha initiative. Let us peacefully demonstrate to the sane world that it is not any religi Zalluka, mangalore Sunday, September 07, 2008 It seems India have to fight for another freedom against this fascist(RSS,Sang parivar). Cruel than Hitler they are treating non hindus and non Hindus and they have to come out of darkness. Finally I can say that we have to teach them to become a human. Ajay, Mangalore Tuesday, September 09, 2008 Does anyone have an first hand experience of being forcibly converted by Christians ? They do not do that even in the Christian countries where other religions including Hind
Re: [Goanet] Oh Dear Parrikar
Others will venture into this field only when they smell a lot of financial opportunity. (The Gaitonde shoes experience is well known.) For the rest of the time, they will just keep pouring scorn on people who have been doing this useful work for centuries. And trapped into a caste-class structure that takes many generations to morph even only very slightly. Time heals all wounds, and time wounds all heels. We need all kinds to protect our heels :-) FN PS: Not just Hindu, the cl-aste structure also works in Christianity. At least in Goa, and some other parts of India. 2008/9/9 Sandeep Heble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Is the profession of a cobbler a restricted profession, for the Hindu > backward castes only? Can others not venture into this trade? > -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org Blog: http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Tech links from South Asia: http://twitter.com/fn
[Goanet] Supergoa.com returns with new articles...
Please visit the site... There are articles in Portuguese and in English. Entorno da Velha Goa será renovado para promover turismo http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_noticia.asp?c_news=1039 Museu do Oriente convida famílias a conhecer Goa http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_noticia.asp?c_news=1038 Bertrand Editora lança seis novas obras dia 8 http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_noticia.asp?c_news=1037 Goa's corruption level alarming http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_noticia.asp?c_news=1036 Goa records a dozen accidents a day http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_noticia.asp?c_news=1035 Court to hear developers plea in Goa SEZ muddle http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_noticia.asp?c_news=1034 Goa, never a part of Karnataka - An analysis http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_noticia.asp?c_news=1033 Goa, never a part of Karnataka: Historians http://www.supergoa.com/pt/read/news_noticia.asp?c_news=1032
Re: [Goanet] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Re: REVIEW: Small State, big attitude (Rahul Srivastava)
This is not a book review. Not to be confused with the article at the bottom of the same page of the Hindu magazine, a review of Aparanta. Rahul Srivastava article is just an unbiased feature on Goa. Cheers, Nigel
[Goanet] Subject: UTT GOENKARA TO CHALK OUT PLAN OF ACTION AGAINST MR. MONSERATTE
In support of: Message: 2Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:01:01 +0530From: "Aires Rodrigues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: [Goanet] UTT GOENKARA TO CHALK OUT PLAN OF ACTION AGAINST MR. MONSERATTETo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Aires, Its most unfortunate that we ourselves have to carry this burden on our conscious, that we, ourselves have loaded. Who is responsible for this mess ? We Goans are, this is one question that keeps on popping up in my mind, why on earth, do we commit the same mistake, election after election, even after knowing and expecting the inevitable from the elected elite ! Just before Monserattes coronation I had posted an article which unfortunately did not see the daylight as the moderator thought the terms I had used were unpostable regarding the out going and incoming Education and the PWD Ministers (one worse than the other) most unfortunate ! These power and money hungry creatures have managed to build a cocoon around themselves that nothing will get through or to them, what ever we say or do, will have no effect on them, their skin is become so thick that a bullet couldnt get through it and the only way to stop them, is the mass movement, only the people who put them at the pinnacle MUST bring them down. Are we Goans ready for it ? I am sure I wont be wrong in saying our Goan politicians are the most corrupt, most arrogant, most non performing and among the richest and from where have all these riches come ? And from these riches they get more and more powerful and arrogant. Here we have an example, politicians at their best, politics is the only professional, profession (apart from the oldest profession) which does require an educational degree, even then Monsratte had to lie on affidavit that he is SSC pass, what audacity ! Our Politicians DISGUST me To Goa with love Freddy Agnelo Fernandes
[Goanet] Dating Workshops for Christians - The Telegraph
Christians learn the art of dating Christians are going on dating workshops to improve their technique in everything from chat-up lines to body language. By Jonathan Wynne-Jones, Religious Affairs Correspondent Last Updated: 4:06PM BST 06 Sep 2008 Dwindling congregations and a lack of experience in relationships have left many churchgoers struggling to find a partner, according to clergy. There has been a sharp rise in the number of worshippers signing up to internet dating sites, but clergy are concerned that they are losing personal skills, such as flirting and reading signals. Now hundreds of Christians are attending courses designed to make them more successful in turning a first date into a long-term relationship. Peter Spalton, known as the dating doctor, said that churchgoers tended to be more reserved and could benefit from tips on how to appear more attractive. Lessons include how to greet someone, how to hold good eye contact and how to judge whether the other person wants to be kissed at the end of the evening. "The first meeting is crucial in making or breaking a relationship," said Mr Spalton. "The workshops are all about giving people the confidence to make their date a success. They go through the whole process of what is acceptable to talk about and when it is appropriate to try to take things to the next level." Mr Spalton said that chat-up lines can be a good way to make someone laugh and feel relaxed, but that some Christian jokes might not be well received. Among those highlighted as best to avoid by Christian Connections - an online dating agency - are one-liners such as "You float my ark" and "I didn't believe in predestination until tonight". Jackie Elton, founder of the agency, said that the number of people using Christian dating sites has doubled over the past year. "There's been a massive rise in internet dating sites as Christians are struggling to find a partner in church," she said. "They know what they want, but many congregations are too small or have a gender imbalance that makes it really difficult for them. "As a result they are not getting the kind of experience they need and that's why they are turning to the workshops." The Rev Richard Cunningham, the director of the University and College Christian Fellowship, said that as society has become more fragmented many people now lack the necessary skills to date successfully. "With the growth of the internet, people are losing social skills we used to take for granted, and have drifted away from being able to read signals," he said. Christian Connections asked churchgoers for chat up lines that they had used, or that had been used on them. Examples included: 'Now I know why Solomon had 700 wives. He never met you.' 'Is this pew taken?' 'I just don't feel called to celibacy.' 'You float my ark.' 'I didn't believe in predestination until tonight.' 'My parents are home, wanna come over?' 'Is that a thinline, duo-tone, compact, ESV travel bible in your pocket?' 'Let me sell you an indulgence - it's a sin to look as good as you.' 'How many times do I have to walk around you before you fall for me?" 'I like to arrange the substantial Christian section of my bookshelf into alphabetical order. Coffee?" 'The name is Will. God's Will.' - Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/2694175/Christians-learn-the-art-of-dating.html =
Re: [Goanet] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Re: REVIEW: Small State, big attitude (Rahul Srivastava)
Dear Moderators, This is an article about Goa, not a review! --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Goanet Reformat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Goanet Reformat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Re: REVIEW: Small State, big attitude (Rahul Srivastava) To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 5:40 PM I'm a bit baffled. What book is being reviewed? Is the title "Small State, big attitude"? Is Rahul Srivastava the reviewer, or the author? Who published the book? How many pages does it have? Is it in hardcover or paperback, what is the price? [MODERATION REPLY: The entire article is here: http://www.thehindu.com/mag/2008/08/17/stories/2008081750020100.htm )
[Goanet] Glimpses of Konknni
Dear "Prof." Sebastiao Mariano Borges, For a retired lecturer who prefixed his name with a "Prof." for a decade while using the signature ending "Sotachench Zoit Zatolem. Sebastian Borges" credibility cannot be ...and is not an issue! For a person who roared that the Devangari edition of Mr. Lourdinho Rodrigues's book "Mahabharot" was a pirated version, wand then could only dig up the late Confusius Cardoz's article in the GULAB as proof of a non-starter, throwing challenges is easy. Did Shenoi Goybab do his PH.D. in Konkani or Linguistics between the time he wrote his first dozen [or fourteen] publications in Roman Script before migrating to the holy Devanagri script? Was Matricula Std. XI or Std. VII during the relevant period of Shenoi Goybab, the doyen of the Devanagri ...posthumously? Can the good "Prof." Borges produce any evidence where Fr. Pratap Naik SJ has said "Devanagari script is of the Hindus whilst Roman script is of the Roman Catholics" as claimed by the Prof. Why is the Prof. tripping over his own imagination? Is the good Prof. S.M. Borges willing to swear an affidavit before a Notary to state that "not a single Konkani book in Roman script was printed between 1660 and 1890 any where in the world? And also that no Konkani book was printed in Goa even between 1890 and 1928? " as alleged by him? I am willing to take him on his challenge with evidence to the contrary. It exists. If the good "Prof." knows about stones and sand, let him remain in his field ... till he learns to read before he writes figments of his imagination as truth. That does not even sell to a village ignoramus even when it comes from a brahmin's mouth. Just growing a grey beard does not give one wisdom. It is the grey cells INSIDE the cranium that matter! ;-) Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 03:04:49 +0530 From: Sebastian Borges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fausto dacosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 05:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Glimpses of Konknni Subject: [Goanet] Sebastian Borges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Glimpses of Konknni Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear friends, The article, "Glimpses of Konknni in Roman script" by Fr. Pratap Naik, though sketchy, is fairly truthful. hide the fact that not a single Konkani book in Roman script was printed between 1660 and 1890 any where in the world? And also that no Konkani book was printed in Goa even between 1890 and 1928?I hereby challenge Fr.Pratap Naik to prove me wrong on this count; and this is not the first time I am throwing this challenge. Fr. Naik also exploded his own pet myth: that Devanagari script is of the Hindus whilst Roman script is of the Roman Catholics. He now proves what I have been consistently stressing; that when it comes to using Devanagari for writing / teaching Konkani, it is Catholic Goans who have led the way and the Hindus, including Saraswats, followed much later. To the evidence adduced by Fr. Naik, one could add the following: in 1926, Francisco Pedro Borges wrote a Konkani (Devanagari) religious book of 198 pages entitled "Kristanv Bhavartheacho dispott'tto sangati;" this was printed in Khanapur. At the threshold of the twentieth century, a matriculate (equivalent to XI passed) Shenoy Goembab, in his twenties/thirties, published some Konkani translations in Roman script. And this is held against him. Some ignoramuses also think that this is a revelation, little realizing that the info is found in my translation of Shenoy Goembab's biography. I would be very happy to receive clarifications on the above points. Sotachench Zoit Zatolem. Sebastian Borges -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] 1st WORLD DAMAN DAY - A report
Viva Damão! Keep the culture alive: First “WORLD DAMAN DAY” Celebrated Worldwide on 20th August 2008 The first-ever, “WORLD DAMAN DAY” was celebrated by people of Daman origin living outside India in countries like the UAE, USA, Canada, Holland, Macau, Portugal and the UK along with the 9th “World Goa Day” on invitation from its London-based founder, Rene Barreto. The month- long celebrations were undoubtedly, the biggest worldwide Damanense party in the history of Daman! World Daman Day like World Goa Day, is primarily celebrated outside of India in an effort to first establish identity and later turn it into a brand as Goa has already done. The date, though significant for Goa vis-à-vis the status of the Konkani language, isn’t of any significance to Daman. But there was the benefit of getting a helping hand from the much-experienced organizers of WGD. In any case, ultimately, it was the spirit that counted and which turned a black number on the calendar into a red-letter day! The theme for World Daman Day ’08 was, “Viva Damão! Keep the culture alive!” The imposing centuries-old monuments, customs and traditions have withstood the test of time – all 450 years of them – but it is the culture that breathes life into them. The motto was to promote, publicize and celebrate all things Damanense by showcasing the unique Damanense cultural heritage, expressed culturally and artistically. Cock in the shadow of the peacock A heady blend of Indian and Portuguese cultures, the Indo-Portuguese subculture of Daman is obviously multicultural, multilingual and multiracial yet always in beautiful melodic harmony. When the Portuguese spelling of the word, ‘Daman’ is broken up into its two syllables, it reveals the secret behind the characteristic hospitality of the typical Damanense – 'Da mão' – which literally translates as, 'give me your hand,' meaning, ‘welcome!’ Says Asunta Franco, Country Coordinator for Fujairah, “You can take a Damanense out of Daman but you can never take Damão out of a Damanense.” It truly is a way of life, for life! UK – Leicester & Peterborough The largest body of Damanenses outside India is based in the UK comprising largely Catholics, Hindus and Muslims who have literally transplanted the culture on to British soil. Says Franco Fonseca, Peterborough-based Country Coordinator for the UK, “the British come to observe our social and cultural events but not with the intention of adapting to the culture… they have adoption in mind.” The month- long festival held in Leicester and Peterborough showcased Damanense cuisine, folklore, folksongs, Damanense Mando, Portuguese folk dance, art and sport… “We included games like Sete Telhas, Jili Patta and Inti-tolla even though these are now sidelined in Daman itself,” says Luis Fonseca, Overall Coordinator for Leicester. UAE – Dubai, Sharjah & Fujairah The three country coordinators for the UAE organized cultural, culinary and sporting events as well as picnics and excursions, which included a visit to a Portuguese fort in Fujairah. Lysa Lopes, the coordinator for Sharjah, uploaded some of her best Damanense recipes on the WDD-08 website. Tourists to Daman often ask where they can sample Damanense or Indo-Portuguese cuisine. Damanense food is not served in any of the hotels though many label some items on their menu as ‘Daman special.’ The grand finale of the month-long celebrations was in Fujairah, where Damanenses from Sharjah and Dubai joined in a gala event of music, dancing, games and a traditional Damanense dinner. Daman – Will the real Slim Shady please stand up? On reading about WDD-08 in the Hindustan Times and the Times of India, Damanenses in Daman too wanted to join in the partying. “The whole world is celebrating and what are we doing about it?” asked Mr. Fremiot Mendonca, the go-to person when researching the local history and culture of Daman. In a matter of minutes, the Damanenses in Daman got their act together, using nothing but their telephones! The ‘elders’ were not only more enthusiastic than the youth… they knew what they wanted – ‘no Slim Shady stuff, please... it’s got to be proper ballroom music; no colas, please... it’s got to be wine or rather cake ‘n’ wine; no ‘English’ mass... it’s got to be in Portuguese; no artificial flowers for decking the hall… only ‘kajooree’ palm fronds please;’ and the list went on. ‘Viva Damão’ is not just lip service for the Damanenses – it’s the real thing and they don’t just ‘do it’ – they do it right! So, though late in getting into the groove, Damanenses in Daman perceive it as a new beginning and look forward to WDD-09. Truly global community, bonding on the Internet During the planning and execution of WDD-08 on a global scale, country coordinators and their team members as well as other Net savvy Damanenses worldwide, made good use of the Inte
[Goanet] Goan sailor on hijacked Somalian ship safe: Naik
Indian sailors on hijacked Somalian ship safe: Naik Panaji, Sept 09: Three Indian sailors onboard the Somalian ship, which was hijacked last month, are safe, said MP Shantaram Naik. The Union Shipping Ministry has confirmed the safety of all the three sailors, including a Goan, onboard the hijacked ship, he said. The secretary to Shipping Ministry A P V N Sarma has informed that the negotiations were going on between the pirates and the owner of the ship, Naik said in a statement released here. According to Sarma, such negotiations, if one goes by the history of hijacking of ships in the area, takes not less than one month to reach a settlement, the release said. Anthony Clive Thimudio, a Goan sailor along with two others -- one from Karnataka and another Maharashtra - were stranded on a merchant navy ship M V Iran Deyant which was hijacked from the Red Sea on August 21. http://www.zeenews.com/articles.asp?aid=467814&sid=NAT ~(^^)~ Avelino
Re: [Goanet] CONSTRUCTION ORGIES
Dears, It is a small wonder that the GCCI Chief should want to criticise the CSOs and NGOs that he dubs as the "Agitation Industry". What else can the employee who is made the chief be expected to do except the will of his "Parde ke peechay" masters? Perhaps the time has come for GCCI to shift its office away from TB Cunha hall and Azad maidan. Democracy is not good for such "industrious" people. All they can think of is profits and tax breaks or, in one word, MONEY. Otherwise, this Bush-shirt-and-tie clad Parrikar acolyte would not be crawling behind the "Naked one" now all the way to Moti Dongor . his personal calvary. The hallmark of a great man, is the knowledge of when not to talk big and when not to belittle. That is not something a NIT. can learn in spite of the ostensible WIT. Even the rotten Ta-tas may hem and haw with singular effect lekin unko "Nani yaad ayegee" as the dear Rajiv Gandhi once said in the Parliament. ;-) Mog asundi Miguel Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 23:20:43 -0700 (PDT) From: John Gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1148[ CONSTRUCTION ORGIES ] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chairman GCCI in his welcome address to the talk given by Vice-Chancellor Pune Universuty has sarcastically (he continues belittling the woes of the aam admi) stated that a new sector has been added to the goan economy,namely AGITATION INDUSTRY !He appealed to all to fight THIS MENACE as "People should not be allowed to take the manufacturing industry in Goa for a ride". Of course not, people must continue to allow the Industry to take them for a ride as hitertho ,for they are poor ignorant people, kept in the dark literally and figuratively, so THEY can be taken for a ride BY THE MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY?? Its a pity that government and industry have not yet woken up to people's basic needs? FIRST SOLVE WATER,ELECTRICITY,POLLUTION, GARBAGE, INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS NOW. Just yesterday, I was on the fourth floor of a building near Heraldo office,and the heavy stink of garbage coming from Pato I could not bear! Take mega constructions in NOIDA, Gurgaon, and take Singur, no positive lessons learnt? -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Goa, never a part of Karnataka - An analysis
Folks, Re: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goa_never_a_part_of_Karnataka_Histori ans_/articleshow/3438761.cms (Goa never a part of Karnataka - Times of India, 3rd September 2008) It is extremely interesting to read the reaction of some Goan Historians to the statement by the Chief Secretary of the State of Karnataka with the guidance of Karnataka's Advocate General. For those who have not read that statement yet, it is as follows: "it reserves the right to file the full history of Goa to show that Goa is part of Karnataka" - Chief Secretary, Karnataka. After some strong protests, the State of Karnataka recognised there was an oversight in the statement and issued a clarification to the effect that "is" should be read as "was". However, in my opinion, even after the change of "is" to "was", the claim is still very serious and indeed represents a grave threat to the future territorial integrity of Goa. It seems to mean that Karnataka can issue territorial claims over Goa at some point in the future ending once and for all the existence of the State of Goa as it is today. I think this is a quite serious claim issued by the State of Karnataka and it does affect us all. Let us see what the Supreme Court of India determines as response to this claim. The reaction of Prof. Olivinho Gomes, former Goa University Professor, is most interesting. He says: "You can't say that historically Goa was a part of Karnataka, because Karnataka didn't exist at that time. There were rulers from that area who ruled over our living space." Prof. Olivinho Gomes statement above is quite right. The State of Karnataka did not exist prior to the existence of the territorial map of Goa that we know today. I think we all agree with this. However, a very similar argument can be used against the Indian Union (Republic of India) action of 19th December 1961 against Goa. The Indian Union (Republic of India) was created in 1947 and did not exist prior to the existence of the territorial map of Goa which was ruled by the Portuguese centuries before the arrival of the British (who ultimately were responsible for the creation of the map of the Republic of India as we know it today). Therefore, you can't say that historically Goa was a part of the Republic of India, because the Republic of India didn't exist at that time. There were rulers from the Indian subcontinent who ruled over our living space, but the country that we know as Republic of India did not exist before the creation of the territorial map of the State of Goa (as defined by the Portuguese centuries earlier). The territorial claims from the Republic of India over Goa can be deemed wrong by the same argument issued by Prof. Olivinho Gomes. But we all know that the Supreme Court of India determined that the Portuguese State of Goa was conquered by the Republic of India on the 19th December 1961. Luckily, not everything was lost for the dream of Goa independence and Goa became a State of the Republic of India in 1987 giving Goans a great degree of freedom and legislative administration over our territory. Can this be taken away from us in the future? Well, it does looks like Karnataka is reserving the right to do so in the future. Is this another threat to Goa? Yes. It is indeed. Best regards Paulo Colaco Dias No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.17/1657 - Release Date: 06/09/2008 20:07
[Goanet] The Micon Realtors scandal in Benaulim
Hello! Here are new uploads with text and pictures on http://bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com 1. The Micon Realtors scandal in Benaulim http://bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/2008/09/micon-realtors-scandal-in-benaulim.html 2. Booster dose from Sundarlal Bahuguna in Benaulim http://bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/2008/09/booster-dose-from-sundarlal-bahuguna-in.html Warmly, Seby _ Searching for the best deals on travel? Visit MSN Travel. http://in.msn.com/coxandkings
[Goanet] WHAT DOES DEMOCRACY MEAN TO EVERY INDIAN
Is the Shiv Sena Supremo Bal Thackery above the law of India , is he above Supreme Court or any other courts of India, his recent behaviour be it changing every thing in Marathi , targetting indian citizens be it film personalities or a normaly outsider who is not a marathi , why does the law not book him for creating such a linguistic tension? If a common man had to behave like this , by now he would be behind bars. If every Indian citizen from every state of India is going to sing the same song like that of Bal thackery then what is the solution? Bonefacio
[Goanet] International Congress on Environmental Research
From: ICG-Programmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Reader, "International Congress on Environmental Research" will be held in Goa from 18-20 December 2008 at the BITS-Pilani (Goa Campus). The Congress is organised by BITS Pilani (Goa Campus) and JERAD (Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh) India. It may be interesting for you to see the BROCHURE and CALL FOR PAPERS at the following link to the website of the Congress http://www.icer08.org/ . with kind regards, Arjun Halarnkar Programme Manager, International Centre Goa, India
[Goanet] GWS fund raising Football tournment
GWS FOOTBALL TOURNAMENT Come watch our football fundraising tournament on 14th September 2008 at the Goan Gymkana from 8,00 am to 5.00 pm. No Entrance Fee. Corporate teams confirmed ALPHA MOTORS ACE PANEL BEATERS A-Z HARDWARE PAINT LTD INTERFREIGHT A INTERFREIGHT B SAFERON AAA GROWERS SUPERIOR TYRES ZAIN TECHNOLOGY TODAY KUNHNE + NAGEL CHASE BANK NAIROBI SPORTS HOUSE OIL LIBYA CJ SECURITIES LTD AUA Lots of food, drinks and Entertainment. Fun corner for the Kids. Please confirm A.S.A.P for catering. For GWS -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
[Goanet] Goa records a dozen accidents a day
Goa records a dozen accidents a day 9 Sep 2008, 0303 hrs IST, Preetu Nair,TNN PANAJI: Goa's affinity with accidents continues. According to the latest data collected by the state's traffic department, 12 accidents are reported everyday. In the first six months this year, 2,185 accidents have occurred. That's 76 more than in the corresponding period last year. Peruse the detailed document that registers everything-from the age of the vehicles involved to the reasons for the accidents- and the findings get worse. The most productive age group-21 to 34 years-continues to be the chief perpetrators and often the main victims of fatal accidents. Overspeeding and road rage, including refusal to give right of way, are the top causes of accidents, and the guilty are mostly educated, private vehicle owners who possess regular licences. The state's internal roads and residential and open areas record the maximum accidents. Roads around institutions aren't safe either. In the last six months 141 accidents have been reported near schools and colleges, a figure that's in keeping with the 262 and 203 accidents recorded in the same zones in the last two years. Ironically, in areas that have police or traffic lights in control, the number of accidents have upped from 62 in 2006 to 90 last year. The majority of persons killed or grievously injured are motorcycle drivers followed by pedestrians. Alcohol consumption led to 14 accidents in the first six months of 2008, however, no one was killed. There's a catch here, said officials. "When a fatal accident occurs and the driver is drunk, he normally runs away from the spot and surrenders the next day. By the time the police sends the person for a medical examination there is no trace of alcohol," said SP (traffic) Arvind Gawas. Explaining the increase in accidents, he added, "If a fatal accident occurs, nothing deterrent happens to the driver. Neither does the accused go to jail nor does he have to pay compensation to the deceased or injured's family nor does he lose his driving license." http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa_records_a_dozen_accidents_ a_day/articleshow/3460509.cms ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] FRIDAY BALCAO: New Land Development and Building Construction Regulations: the implications for Goa
- Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO - Dear Cybergaonkars on Goanet, We continue with FRIDAY BALCAO on 12th September from 4pm. to 6pm. at Goa Desc Resource Centre No.11, Liberty Apartments, Feira Alta, Mapusa Goa. TOPIC:New Land Development & Building Construction Regulations: the implications for Goa. SPEAKER:Open Discussion We invite you to express your viewpoint by attending the Friday Balcao event but if you cannot attend, then please send your views and action plan suggestions by post to FRIDAY BALCAO Post Box 78, Mapusa 403 507 or by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] best wishes, Roland Martins --- Don't miss out on the discussion. Information is power, Share it equitably. Lets make things happen in Goa !! --- GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Working On Issues Of Development & Democracy = __._,_.___
[Goanet] Goa, never a part of Karnataka - Times of India 3rd September 2008
Source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goa_never_a_part_of_Karnataka_Histori ans_/articleshow/3438761.cms Goa, never a part of Karnataka: Historians Goan activists and historians are upset with Karnataka's claim that Goa is a part of their state, even if, as Karnataka says, this was a typo. While the issue was raised in the recently-concluded Assembly session, where it was noted as "a grave threat to the territorial integrity of Goa" , and even though both state governments have played the issue down, doubt lingers amongst the Goan milieu. Prashant Naik, spokesperson of Goa Hith Rakhan Manch, an organisation that stands for the protection of Goan identity told TOI, "We object to the statement in the affidavit and oppose it. Even if it is a typing mistake, we strongly object to it and ask the Goa government to clarify the issue." Vision India, another non government organisation (NGO), also protests the statement. Convenor, Sushrut Martins said, "This is not an error. How can there be an error when the reply is filed by the chief secretary of the state, with the guidance of the advocate general? This has been written on purpose." The controversy arose after it was brought to light that the Karnataka government had filed an "objection statement" (paragraph 13) before the Supreme Court containing the line "it reserves the right to file the full history of Goa to show that Goa is part of Karnataka" . Karnataka now says this was an oversight, where the word "is" appeared instead of "was". But even if it was not an inadvertent error, can historical ties that date back centuries impart license to a state to claim a land as its own? Olivinho Gomes, former professor , Goa University said, "You can't say that historically Goa was a part of Karnataka, because Karnataka didn't exist at that time. There were rulers from that area who ruled over our living space." Prajal Sakhardande, historian, added, "Following the Bhojas, all the dynasties that ruled over us came from Karnataka. Because of the rule of these dynasties, they think Goa is theirs, and are trying to use a historical connection to stake a claim on Goa." But it is not just being ruled over by somebody that gives one the right to make a claim. Historians believe that the independence of a land can be gauged by its culture and identity as well. "The fact that we had our own language and our own script is evidence of our separate cultural identity . When Kanada used the h a l l e k a n a d a script, our people were using a modified script called Kandvi, which the Kanada people called Goyn Kannadi. All our village records were written in that script till the 19th century," said Gomes, asserting Goa's cultural independence. There's hurt too at the suggestion that Goa could be a part of Karnataka. "They (Karnataka ) are trying to threaten the existence of Goa," said Sakhardande. "Goan temperament has never been one of violence. It took us 450 years to get freedom. We are a secular and tolerant society, but other states should not play with our emotions," stressed Naik. And then there are those who suggest a future course of action in the issue. Said Martins, "Goa has to file an intervening petition in the case, so that we are aware of the progress of the case and not wake up after a verdict is given by the Supreme Court." No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.17/1657 - Release Date: 06/09/2008 20:07
[Goanet] IMP - No Portuguese Pasport ? or can't go to UK ? Why not try Australia?
Important: As said, earlier.. Please read this from the archive (list of fake agencies) http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-November/051104.html --- On Mon, 8/9/08, JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: No Portuguese Pasport ? or can't go to UK ? Why not try Australia? > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Monday, 8 September, 2008, 7:12 PM > No Portuguese Pasport ? or can't go to UK ? Why not try > Australia? > > a huge display board has this ad at Panjim KTC Bus Stand > (Entrance) > http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/2841717929/sizes/l/ > > Sometime ago, Goa Govt. banned some recruiting agencies and > one of them was AXIS (don't know if it was Y or X axis) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > for Goa & NRI related info... > http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ > > For Goan Video Clips > http://youtube.com/joeukgoa
[Goanet] Asnodkar expected call-up
Asnodkar expected call-up Cricinfo staff September 9, 2008 Swapnil Asnodkar, the Goa batsman, has said he was expecting a call-up to the India A side after his success at the Indian Premier League. Asnodkar, who aggregated 311 runs from nine matches for the Rajasthan Royals, was named in the A squad for the tri-series involving Australia A and New Zealand A next month. "After the exploits in the IPL, a call from the national selectors was always around the corner," he told the Times of India. "I knew my time would come." Asnodkar, 24, said he wanted to be recognised for more than just his Twenty20 abilities. He averages 42.20 from 33 first-class games, with six hundreds and 11 half-centuries. "I am not getting carried away by the call. I know I have lots to do before making the international grade." Dilip Vengsarkar, the chairman of selectors, hoped Asnodkar would make the best of the opportunity. "Opportunities like these come rarely as the competition is extremely stiff. Swapnil is a talented cricketer and has deservedly got the nod from the selectors." The tri-series, scheduled between September 15 and 26, will be played in Hyderabad and Chennai. http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/story/368894.html ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] letter with mog
Hi guys if you go on this link you will find about Goans in the Royal Navy. Hope it is of some help to someone out there. Mog to all from jjd http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/roots/asian/servicerecords/servicerecords.htm Mog (love) from Johnny, Jane & Dylan Alphonso U.K
[Goanet] Animation Studio in Goa!
It is very welcome to know that there is an Animation Studio in Goa, (Talon Animations), which is situated in the heart of Panaji. For a long time now, we have been reading that the Animation Industry is non-existent here, all the more so since Panaji is now the venue of IFFI and more recently the South Asian Film Festival. What makes it surprising is that this studio has been operating in Goa since 2005! This (media shy) studio, which by the way has been started by Goans, has made us Goans proud that we stand as high (if not higher) than any other state in the country. However, the recent report in the Times of India, (Goa Edition), brings to light the fact that there are no institutes to train our future Goans in the field of Animation, which has such a bright job potential for our budding youngsters. It is hoped that in future, we will have a few institutes in Goa which will fill this gap. Kiran Sawant
[Goanet] All aboard for a royal ride
Mevyn say: 1) Let the contractors (and not the people of Goa) bear the burden of making the new airport profitable. 2) Two civilian airports is the dumbest of all ideas. 3) It's time the Indian Govt took a clue from Cuba who turned eight air force fields into international airports. Confucius say (well sort of): 1) There is no such thing as a free chowmein. 2) Necessity is the mother of invention 3) Dont hold your breath. Cheers.
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1148[ CONSTRUCTION ORGIES ]
Chairman GCCI in his welcome address to the talk given by Vice-Chancellor Pune Universuty has sarcastically (he continues belittling the woes of the aam admi) stated that a new sector has been added to the goan economy,namely AGITATION INDUSTRY !He appealed to all to fight THIS MENACE as "People should not be allowed to take the manufacturing industry in Goa for a ride". Of course not, people must continue to allow the Industry to take them for a ride as hitertho ,for they are poor ignorant people, kept in the dark literally and figuratively, so THEY can be taken for a ride BY THE MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY ?Its a pity that government and industry have not yet woken up to peoples basic needs . FIRST SOLVE WATER,ELECTRICITY,POLLUTION, GARBAGE, INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS NOW. Just yesterday,I was on the fourth floor of a building near Heraldo office,and the heavy stink of garbage coming from Pato I could not bear! Take mega constructions in NOIDA, Gurgaon, and take Singur, no positive lessons learnt? Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/
[Goanet] 'Bharat Mata' a work of art: SC
'Bharat Mata' a work of art: SC 8 Sep 2008, 0012 hrs IST,TNN NEW DELHI: In a blow against the moral brigade, the apex court on Monday termed M F Husain's painting 'Bharat Mata' a "work of art", paving the way for the eminent 92-year-old painter to end his self-imposed exile in Dubai and London and return to his home in Mumbai. The court refused to entertain a petition seeking initiation of proceedings against the artist for hurting the sentiments of Indians. The painting has been the focus of protest of right-wing individuals and groups in different parts of the country. The petitioner, who was slammed by the Delhi High Court in its May judgment, took a chance before a Bench comprising Chief Justice K G Balakrishnan and Justices P Sathasivam and J M Panchal terming the painting as a blatant attempt to scandalize every Indian. The argument that the painting, which depicted a nude woman as Mother India, had hurt the sentiments of every sane citizen did not impress the Bench. It asked: "Does the sentiment of the petitioner get scandalized by the large number of photographs of erotic sculptures which are in circulation?" The irony lost on him, the petitioner tried to explain — it is not a sculpture but a painting and it should not be viewed leniently just because the painter is renowned and old. The Bench countered: "It is an art like the sculptures. None gets scandalized looking at the sculptures." SC brought to a conclusive end the numerous cases against M F Husain, who in May this year got a balming judgment from the High Court which said that the renowned painter "deserves to be in his home, painting his canvases". The courts had been sympathetic earlier, in December 2006, when they clubbed all five cases (two in Madhya Pradesh and one each in Maharashtra and Delhi) and transferred them to Patiala House in Delhi to spare the elderly artist from having to travel through the country to attend the hearings. "It is very unfortunate that the works of any artist today who have tried to play around with nudity have come under scrutiny. They have to face the music, making them think twice before exhibiting their work. Criminal justice system should not be used as an easy recourse to ventilate against a creative art," Justice Sanjay Kishan Kaul of the HC had said. The case in hand relates to a 2004 oil-on-canvas painting of a nude woman whose shape mimics the contours of the map of India, with the names of Indian cities written over her body. Husain, who fled the country two years ago fearing attacks from right-wing activists - they have vandalised his art shows in Delhi, London and Ahmedabad - had explained earlier before the apex court that he had already apologised on behalf of the auctioneer for naming the painting 'Bharat Mata', something he had not chosen. He had said when he sold the work to a private collector, it was untitled. A year-and-a-half later in 2006, the painting was advertised as part of an online auction to raise money for victims of the Kashmir earthquake. On the website, the painting was entitled 'Bharat Mata', Husain said distancing himself from the controversial title that so invited the wrath of right-wing organisations like VHP and RSS
[Goanet] No Portuguese Pasport ? or can't go to UK ? Why not try Australia?
No Portuguese Pasport ? or can't go to UK ? Why not try Australia? a huge display board has this ad at Panjim KTC Bus Stand (Entrance) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextras/2841717929/sizes/l/ Sometime ago, Goa Govt. banned some recruiting agencies and one of them was AXIS (don't know if it was Y or X axis) [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa
