[Goanet-News] Goa news for September 27, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Scarlett murder: Case seems to be falling apart - Expressindia.com [Sep 25, 2008] In both the cases, Goa Childrens Court while pronouncing the bail order has mentioned that there is no material on record to prove their involvement in the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Scarlett-murder--Case-seems-to-be-falling-apart/365812/cid=1250010477ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNGPJxd6Co6Wr0XxepR-YSQ0JScvEQ *** I-League Weekend Preview - Goal.com [9 hours ago] The opening day has two fixtures with the first being newly promoted Vasco SC take on Sporting Club De Goa. The Goan derby wonthold much promise and ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=883192cid=1249800482ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNEMLsIhYDCsLAhreMHfv4G4YflyVg *** I-League Preview: Sporting Club De Goa Vasco SC - Goal.com [22 hours ago] What: I-League, Match day I Who: Sporting Club De Goa v/s Vasco SC When: Friday, 26th September 2008, 1600 IST Where: Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium, Goa. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.goal.com/en-india/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=882371cid=1250591595ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNEtqNxlqIXhgKaoiVbWAmPN89c0xA *** Goa govt to appoint financial consultant for 6th pay comm - Economic Times [13 hours ago] 26 Sep, 2008, 1525hrs IST, PTI PANAJI: Goa government has decided to appoint a financial consultant who will tell the state how to mop up funds for ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Jobs/Goa_govt_to_appoint_financial_consultant_for_6th_pay_comm/articleshow/3530966.cmscid=1250926426ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNHrxNsEW_H1zUjq_Ja6zbUS2pSWZA *** Bizarre Foods with Andrew Zimmern: Goa, the spice of life - Gadling [Sep 25, 2008] by Jamie Rhein Sep 25th 2008 @ 12:30PM From the first shot of Goa in this week's episode of Bizarre Foods, I could smell the aromas. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.gadling.com/2008/09/25/bizarre-foods-with-andrew-zimmern-goa-the-spice-of-life/print/cid=0ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNGVmsGmcq_pav7bexNXizY0YLE1KA *** Emigration: the great escape - Telegraph.co.uk [8 minutes ago] I'm shortly going to see three properties in Goa found for me by friends, with a view to renting one while I set up a business decorating and renovating ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/main.jhtml?xml=/property/2008/09/27/pemigration127.xmlcid=0ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNH2in-nuN2k07vgsW-eqpi-KVkQfg *** Terrorists Planning Strike in Goa? - India Journal [6 hours ago] BANGALORE/THRISSUR/PANAJI - After Bangalore, Ahmedabad and Delhi, terrorists were suspected to be planning a strike in Goa, sparking an alert in the coastal ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.indiajournal.com/pages/event.php?id=4618cid=0ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNE5bEMhneQNAiUCOnxRnhbvBpZD5w *** Special Task Force to implement smoking rules in Goa - Times of India [Sep 23, 2008] PANAJI: Goa government will form a special task force to ensure implementation of new amendments in the Smoking in publicplaces Rules 2008, that are being ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa_Special_force_for_smoking_rules/articleshow/3521086.cmscid=1250022699ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNGZMV9KYKVxRUMusYP0FAHFcRM53A *** India: Sporting Win I-League Opener Against Vasco - Goal.com [9 hours ago] A late goal from Junior earned Sporting Club De Goa a victory in the opening fixture of the I-League, against Vasco SC at the Nehru Stadium in Goa. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=883205cid=1251004717ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNF7_F7YE3ue0ODCu_d2k6gxnRVYdQ *** Accumulate Sesa Goa at Rs 101-90: N Pillai - Moneycontrol.com [17 hours ago] Neppolian Pillai of Modern Shares Stock Brokers is of the view that one can accumulate Sesa Goa at Rs 101-90. Pillai told CNBC-TV18, I am very bearish on ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/news/stocks-views/accumulate-sesa-goa-at-rs-101-90-n-pillai/11/05/358427cid=1250843564ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNFoGYnMeMSWIa2jQUk-kdMMmgtxEA Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] What To Do In Falling Markets - Off Topic
Folks, Let me stick to the (off) topic here. If you have five years or more before you need to access the money you have in the stock market, the best thing for you to do right now is probably nothing. If you have less than five years, see the person who advised you to buy the stocks you have. S/he will be best placed to give you advice, depending on what your current situation is and what info s/he has about you on file. Personally, I think the stock markets are heading for a crash since the US financial system has collapsed. I have raised a lot of (non-US) cash and will only start buying mutual funds after the crash. These decisions are made on the following facts: 1) Bill Clinton left the US with a budget surplus of 560 BILLION dollars. The US treasury is now broke. 2) When Clinton entered office, the Dow was at 3,300 points. When he left, it was at 11,000 points. 3) We have had eight years of debauching of the value of the US dollar. 4) Increase in the supply of money ALWAYS results in inflation. 5) Both US presidential candidates promise more of the McPain. Mervyn3.0 The current US capitalism model is: Privatize the profits, socialize the losses. __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
Re: [Goanet] Nostalgia #12
Ah! Those were the days. Rare visitor that I was as a child to the Margão garden, I remember a childrens' area with its seal, slide, swings et al. Don't know if this equipment / furniture still exists. It’s a Portuguese legacy that warrants looking after, if only for the sake of children. Gabriel. --- On Thu, 25/9/08, Francis Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Francis Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Nostalgia #12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: Thursday, 25 September, 2008, 4:37 PM Nostalgia Pic #12: _ 1964 - 2008: then and now: Margao Municipal Garden - 44 years apart. Green turns into grime - what was once an oasis of colour in the centre of the city has turned into barren desert, defaced by an ugly grill encircling it, totally at odds with the trellis-like gate design. Known as the Praca Jorge Barreto, the northern section was for kids, quaintly named the Aga Khan Children's Park. http://2008goanconvention.com/nostalgia.php pics: courtesy: Tony Fernandes: http://tonferns.blogspot.com/ Jose Lourenco: http://goanarchitecture.blogspot.com FR. _ Make the switch to the world#39;s best email. Get Yahoo!7 Mail! http://au.yahoo.com/y7mail
[Goanet] Hope fades after one month of widespread attacks on Christians in India
Hope fades after one month of widespread attacks on Christians in India - All India Christian Council Inadequate government action and continuing attacks by Hindutva fundamentalists point to more violence in future; aicc recommends specific corrective actions New Delhi, September 26, 2008, 8.00 hrs Over one hundred churches were burned, dozens of Christians killed, and thousands attacked in their homes across India in the last month. Since the Central and state governments have responded slowly, the All India Christian Council (aicc) expects more violence in the days leading up to national elections, which are required by May 2009. The aicc is working on advocacy efforts from Geneva to Washington, D.C. to New Delhi and is releasing a list of recommended action points. The violence started during a strike in Orissa state on Aug. 25, 2008, called by hardliner Hindu fundamentalist groups to protest the murder of a swami by unknown assailants. Dr. Joseph D'souza, aicc president, said, It's been a month since unprecedented, premeditated attacks on Christians started in Orissa state. India has witnessed innocent Christians beaten, killed, and their property destroyed throughout our nation. The response of some government officials and leaders of Hindu fundamentalist groups was predicable. They talk of conversion as if this were an evil, unnatural thing. They make accusations about foreign funding of churches to create fear. What we haven't seen is firm progress toward permanent changes that will bring mob leaders to justice and stop future violence. We believe the majority of Indians want to live in peace and harmony, but our hearts are discouraged as we wait for meaningful action. Due to the wave of violence, including arson which destroyed dozens of Christian homes on 24th night in Kandhamal District, Orissa, Christian leaders are still unable to accurately estimate the loss of property and confirm names of dead or injured. During the last month, aicc collected reliable accounts of attacks in Jharkhand, Madhya Pradesh, New Delhi, Karnataka, Kerala, Punjab, and Uttar Pradesh. Many of the attacks were sporadic and appeared to be `copycat' attacks after media documented the original violence in Orissa and breakdown in the rule of law. However, the widespread violence in Orissa and simultaneous attacks on Sunday, Sept. 14, 2008 in Karnataka were preplanned. In light of continuing unrest and sporadic attacks, the aicc recommends the following: 1. Immediate deployment of India's army to Kandhamal District, Orissa. 2. Court proceedings by state governments, under Indian Penal Code 295A or other appropriate laws, against Hindu fundamentalist leaders who made inflammatory remarks to media which triggered spread of violence. 3. India's Prime Minister to lead a delegation to visit the victims in Orissa, the epicenter of the anti-Christian attacks. 4. Amendment of a presidential order, officially titled Constitution (Scheduled Caste) Order, 1950, to give legal recognition to Dalit Christians and Dalit Muslims as Scheduled Castes. This would allow assaults on these communities to be prosecuted under the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes (Prevention of Atrocities) Act, 1989. 5. Any commissions established to investigate the violence should be headed by active, not retired, judges with a record of non-sectarian rulings. 6. Research and prompt release of white papers on conversions by state governments in all states with Freedom of Religion laws (Chhattisgarh, Gujarat, Himachal Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Orissa) and Karnataka. 7. If state governments insist on investigation into foreign funding of Christian groups and organisations despite records already maintained by India's Ministry of Home Affairs, then studies must examine all non-profit organisations, regardless of religious affiliation. 8. Full and adequate compensation and justice for all the victims, including funding for rebuilding businesses and places of worship. 9. Establishment of a state commission for minorities in Orissa. Dr. Udit Raj, National Chairman of All India Confederation of SC/ST Organisations, participated in the United Nations Human Rights Council session in Geneva from Sept. 9-17, 2008. He said, Recent brutal attacks on Christians continue to remind us that religious intolerance and caste discrimination are synonymous. Right-wing Hindu organisations unleashed the violence against Christians. These attacks usually happen in areas where Dalits have embraced the Christian faith, built businesses, and improved their standards of living. I strongly urge all communities and parties to work together to establish justice and harmony while tackling the root issue – human rights for Dalits and other minorities. The All India Confederation of SC/ST Organisations is a partner with aicc. Aicc is working with US-partner, the Dalit Freedom Network, to ensure United States authorities raise the issue of religious freedom with Prime
[Goanet] Fw: BJP Yuva Morcha Students cell members elected - NT- 26 Sep 08 Pg. 5 report
- Original Message - From: floriano To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 9:51 AM Subject: Re: BJP Yuva Morcha Students cell members elected - NT- 26 Sep 08 Pg. 5 report To, The Editor, Navhind Times. Sir, My only reaction to the above report is that India in general and Goa in particular must hang its head in shame for allowing road-side politics to creep into the sanctum-sanctorum of the 'higher education system'. If this is not arrested in the very near future, our prestigious educational institutions will be churning out destructive political ideologues and millitant cadres rather than erudite persons of higher learning who will destroy this nation through bomb blasts; burning/desecracting religious places of worship and killing, maiming, burning/burrying alive and raping innocent people. We have examples galore of the politically motivated university students having played havoc on the University Campuses. One of the sordid examples is in Gwallior, MP, when the otherwise perfectly healthy professor Agarwal died of a massive heart attack during the altercation with the BJP Yuva Morcha lead by student Tamta. If I remember correctly, the Supreme Court had appointed ex-election commissioner, Mr. James Lyngdoh to submit a report on the hard-core political involvement by students on university campuses or something to that effect. The determination of the Goa Su-Raj Party which I lead is to completely ban ' party politics' of any sort mixing with education, thereby banning internal university/college elections etc. on political party lines. Goa needs to heed to this advice and very badly too. 'Party Politics' and political ideiologies has its defined place which is definately outside the perimeter of Educational Institutions. floriano lobo Moira-Goa Tel: 2470223/9890470896
[Goanet] CopaGoa: Siolim Union book their place in finals
*CopaGoa: Siolim Union book their place in finals* Dubai:Siolim Union advanced into the CopaGoa finals by beating Canacona to a score of 2-0.It was good start for both teams who made good moves wanted to be the first to get the ball to the back of the net of their opponent, but Siolim Union-Dubai (Lebanese Insurance Co) were the first to beak the lock in the 5th minute, Johnny struck a dramatic shot inside the Canacona ?D? to beat the defense and keeper who were totally lost with the shot. The rest of half both saw both the sides making deep forays to score. In the second half both teams kept penetrating and made moves but their attempts did not bear any fruit, and besides Siolim Union-Dubai experienced defense stopped their opponents from any goal scoring opportunity. Jhonny of Siolim Union ? Dubai struck again in the final minutes, making his team victorious to qualify for the finals with two goal win over Canacona.Jhonny of Siolim Union was declared the man of the match. [image: Copa Goa] In the Exibition match between BOMBAY XI and GOA XI, Bombay XI emerged winners giving a score of 2-1.The game was very fast paced as it was a selection of best of the players from all the teams that exited the tournament and others who could not make it to any teams due to their busy work schedules. Bombay XI went into the lead in the 10th minute with a goal from Steven Gurung making no mistake in placing the ball nowhere close to the Goan keeper. After the breather Goa XI got the equalizer in the 5th minute through a beautiful long range shot almost 40 yards by Dominic straight into the Bombay net and the keeper probably did not even see the ball pass him. Bombay XI bounced back to the lead in the dying minutes of the game when their defender was brought down in the Goan D that ended in a penalty Myron made no mistake in converting the spot kick. Both teams could not increase any score till final whistle. *2nd Semi Finals fixtures:* 27th Sept at 5:30 pm - EXHIBITION MATCH Bardez V/S Salcett 6:30 pm - Morjim V/S Athletico Varca F.C. 30th Sept at 5:30 pm - EXHIBITION MATCH Goan Youngsters V/s Goan Veterans 6:30 pm - 3rd and 4th Place, COPA GOA 2008 *FINALS OF COPA INDIA AND COPA GOA 2008* 2nd Oct at 4:45 - EXHIBITION MATCH Kerala V/s Goa 5:30 - FINALS - ALL INDIA, COPA INDIA 2008 6:30 - GRAND FINALS - COPA GOA 2008 -- RadioGoa.net Keeping the Konkani Culture Alive ! Worldwide
[Goanet] Daily Grook #229
DAILY GROOK #229 _ LAST BLAST _ by Francis Rodrigues the bomb did make a blast to warn us, yeah, we got awake with lotsa mourners! _ puns word-play of all kinds, if you read between the lines! _ http://2008goanconvention.com/nostalgia.php _
[Goanet] Nostalgia #13
Nostalgia Pic #13: _ 1950's kids: typically dressed somewhere in Goa/the Konkan. If you grew up in the McCarthy era in faraway Goa, these scenes were not unfamiliar to you - wide-eyed, sometimes snotty, often squirming, generally curiously amused - little tots forced to halt for an instant in their play - to pose! http://2008goanconvention.com/nostalgia.php courtesy: K.L. Kamat/Kamat's Potpourri Konkani children FR. _
[Goanet] Incorporate Roman Konkani
Konkani in the Roman Script must be incorporated into Goa's Official Language Act. The 20 year old Act in the current form is doing more damage to Konkani, than Good. There is a significant percentage of Goans, who relate more to Roman than Devanagari. While the Devanagari script is important for the Indian perspective, the Roman script has a wider international appeal; hence both scripts will boost Konkani (basis for Goan Identity) and also give Goa have a Strong Global Appeal. The Roman Script can also help connect many in the Goan Diaspora, to their roots and possibly encourage some of them to return home. Goa's Identity is a blend between the East West; which enforces the argument for having Konkani in both the scripts; in the Official Language Act. Arwin Mesquita, UAE. -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/
Re: [Goanet] YouTube Censorship
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:45:36 +0530 From: Frederick [FN] Noronha * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Google's YouTube censors a video? To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org This evening, it made it to the local TV/cable news in Goa. There was this item about college kids (or higher secondary students) filming a fight in their institution in Margao, and placing it up on YouTube for all to see. As usual, the media responds to anything cyber-related with panic. The report seemed to back the view that something terrible had happened. The school authorities spoke about the problems created by mobile-phones (cum cameras) being brought into educational institutions. When I googled a bit, I came across this page: RMS GIRL FIGHT girls from RMSalgaokar Higher Secondary School(Comba, Margao ... 2 min 5 sec - Rated 3.7 out of 5.0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF6GXKuv_CE A visit to the page shows the pink banner which reads, This video has been removed due to terms of use violation. While such incidents might reflect poorly on students and a particular institution, is this a matter that calls for deletion of a video, citing terms of use? Google and other big cyber entities have come in for criticism for their stance over knocking off content which was believed to offend the authorities in China or wherever. Incidentally, there are networks like [http://www.filmclips.be/delutube.htm] or [http://www.filmclips.be/delutube.htm] which offer to recover deleted Youtube videos, in some cases! Not all working though... What do you think of it? FN -- Same thing happened in Netherlands a few month ago, some circumstances (mobile-phone film on YouTube) same results: 'censorship'. That's fairly easy to achieve: concerned persons send 'concerned' mail to YouTube, where a human being (very quickly, hundreds requests to handle a day) looks at the stuff, and deletes it (or not, or kicks it 'upstairs' for further review). Mind you this happens not only on YouTube, but in many, many other instances, and its getting worse, as lawmakers the world over want to make ISP/ hosts responsible for content, not the individual authors. The ISPs/ Hosting sites don't want to get in trouble - or even merely do some no-revenue acruing work - and are very quick with the 'delete' button. Censorship has now been outsourced - with success!
[Goanet] Transparency in Government - where do our taxes go ?
The attempt to extract spending info from Raj Bhavan deserves our support. If indeed such info is made available it may be a first ever in the civilised world. Perhaps there is a need for a more comprehensive forum to tackle this in a sustained manner. The successes of such forums elsewhere in the world and in India may help give direction to the cause. Guidance could be taken from them http://www.transparency.org/contact_us/organisations/transparency_international_india http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/~subhash/pdfs/CHRIDraftPaper2003.pdf http://tpa.typepad.com/campaign/freedom_of_information/index.html http://www.cdt.org/egov/handbook/transparency.shtml http://obama.senate.gov/issues/good_government_responsible_spending/
[Goanet] Re.Militant Hindus ? what a joke!
Salvi, I am sure the list is endless, of fanatics of all religions who have persecuted others; and this blame will lead us no where!! The constructive and civilised option for each person is to 1st focus on the rationale that violence against any community is not justified be it Hindus, Muslims, Christians etc It is not who is right, but what is right!! Arwin -- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:44:02 +0530 (IST) From: Laluram Salvi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Militant Hindus ? what a joke! To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 By ?B D Narayankar While there were millions of bytes and words flying around, castigating Hindus for being violent, no channel has thought of highlighting the atrocities perpetrated against them in Kandhamal by the state administration and Christian missionaries. IT?S BECOME a trend with the news channels to pounce upon a Hindu on rampage, ignoring the very cause of retaliation. I am referring to Orissa violence, where Christians were targeted and brutally assaulted. At many places even their homes were set on fire. While there were millions of bytes and words flying around, castigating Hindus for being violent, no channel has thought of highlighting the atrocities perpetrated against the Hindus in Kandhamal by the state administration and the Christian missionaries, especially following the murder of Swami Laxmananda Saraswati. They have been targeted; their families have been threatened by other communities. They have no shelter and no food to feed their families. Their houses were burnt by the criminals, who did not even allow them to earn their bread and butter. These conditions of the innocent Hindus were recorded by a high-level delegation led by the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), MP, Jual Oram, which visited Kandhamal district on September 4, to assess the situation after Swami Laxmananda Saraswati?s murder. Always the Indian media, especially the electronic media, represents the Hindus as militants and persecutors that is really disturbing and sad. These news channels behave in most unpatriotic manner and report the stories like most of the foreign correspondents do, who lack understanding of India. A peep into the history books will reveal how different religions profess militancy. It is necessary for the Indian media to bring forward a more balanced view of the sensitive problems. The gory past of Christian atrocities is forgotten now but history will never forgive culprits like Alfonso de Albuquerque who carried out the persecutions of Hindus in 1510. He burnt ?heretics?, crucified Brahmins, used false theories to forcibly convert lower castes and razed the temples to build churches upon them. How can one forget one of the most fiery communal statements ever made against the Hindus. Claudius Buccchanan, a chaplain attached to East India Company, said, ?Neither truth, nor honesty, honour, gratitude, nor charity, is to be found in the breast of a Hindu?. What a comment on a nation, that had welcomed these merchants because of the Hindu philosophy of universal brotherhood. This communal agenda of Claudius paved the way for British to trap the poor and simple tribals for conversion and bury their cultural identities for ever. Coming to the recent violence in Orissa, the police, even before it could visit the spot where Swami Laxmananda Saraswati was killed, claimed that the murder was committed by the Naxals. Even media played up the story. The fact of the matter, however, is that there is a lot of enmity between the converts and the non-converts. The non-converts are furious over the Christian missionaries hogging up their lands to propagate Christianity and converting them through cash inducements and other ugly means. Missionaries, on the other hand, are frustrated over the hurdle created by Swami Laxmananda Saraswasti?s movement of bringing back the converts to the Hindu fold. Swamiji?s murder was a result of the simmering emotions between the converts and non-converts. Sometimes back, it was claimed by the media that the burning of churches in Andhra Pradesh was the design of ?fanatic? Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, but later it was proved that it was the handiwork of ISI to foment hatred between the Christians and the Hindus. Yet, the Indian media that went berserk at the time of the burnings, mostly kept quiet when the true nature of the perpetrators was revealed. Missionaries, especially, the Indian priests, would like us to believe that democracy includes the freedom to convert by any means. But in France, a Christian nation, has a minister who hunts down non-Christian sects. The system is so ruthless that even the Scientology Church, favoured by some Hollywood stars such as John Travolta, is mercilessly hounded out. And what America, which is recognised as the largest democracy in the world, did to Osho movement in Arizona, or how innocent children and women were
Re: [Goanet] Advice on immigrating back to goa
Hi Remy Whilst deleting endless posts, I cam across yours and wondered if you have made any decisions on your residential future. Regards Cornel --- On Thu, 4/9/08, Remy de Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Remy de Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Advice on immigrating back to goa To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Thursday, 4 September, 2008, 12:17 PM Hi, I have been a regular reader of goanet forums for the last 6 months. I love the Mario's, RP, Arwins, Selmas and Barads of this forum and the ferocity in which each side make their opinions. With some trust i would like to put a personnel questions to all the goanet forum readers. Here is a brief background: I have been living in the UK for about 8 years with my wife and two kids.Before this i was in panjim-goa studied in goa and pune. Later immigrated to england via portuguese passport. Currently, I work for a hedge fund as a quant developer and i am 32 years old. I own house, car and everything seems normal and cosy. Except we miss the way of life in goa. I grew in caranzalem right by the beach, playing footbal and cricket. In the last 2 years we have been thinking with some intensity to return back to Goa. Reasons are mainly 1. We want kids to grow with a sense of community and family. All family in goa. 2. Wife has no chance to advance her career as child care is costly and we think is not favourable in the long term development of the child. 3. I am very passionate about goa and want to be doing something[may be business and have some ideas] that will make a difference to the good of the society in goa/india. I have been back to goa for holidays a couple of times and i know already that there are somethings i will have to get used to back again 1. Traffic 2. Cleaniness 3. Crab mentality 4. Bureaucracy and corruption However, i think i can overcome all this (am not sure of no 1 :-)) My question really to anyone who would like to reply: Am i being a fool or deluded to go back to goa as some people tell me or is this normal to some people to go back. This is a big decision for us as family. Any replies and advice will be appreciated. Remy De Almeida
[Goanet] Cameras for a Cause...
If you have a camera, love photography and would like to use it for a good purpose, check out the 'Cameras for a Cause' network on Facebook: http://groups.to/camerasforacause -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490
[Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites
OPEN LETTER TO GOANET AND OTHER GOAN RELATED WEBSITES We have had Cecil Pinto's confirmation on GX (GoenchimXapotam) that, it is Frederick Noronha who rejects large numbers of posts sent to Goanet without the slightest whiff of an explanation. This disclosure has not been rebutted by Frederick for over a fortnight and I therefore want to congratulate him on his contribution towards corruption and the absence of transparency for which India has just been rated 85th out of 180 countries on the Transparency International Survey. But what on earth am I talking about? Anyone who googles Transparency International will discover that since 1995, there has been an official international body (executive director, Chandrashekhar Krishan) that studies corruption in differnt countries and provides such data in a league table. The latest was published on 23/9/08 and its details, especially on its methodology, are on Google. Many will recall that since the start of 2008, there has been a huge number of posts rejected by Goanet without explanation. This prompted several posters to question what was going on rather unexpectedly. In my case, I had 25 to 30 rejections since Jan 2008 and virtually none among many hundreds, in the previous six years--and of course, I had not changed my general focus nor writing style in any way! Others had similar experiences and this led to Santosh Helekar kindly agreeing on behalf of others, to list key questions that needed to be addressed by Goanet--specifically relating to the rejection of posts without explanation. The immediate response to Santosh Helekar's very polite and precise query was the standard rejection note that his post was inappropriate. It was of course sent by a person who chose to remain anonymous and so much in keeping with recent Goanet practice! Unfortunately, I am only now able to respond to the totally unexpected info (at least for me) that good old Frederick Noronha lay at the heart of the rejection racket whilst taking good care not to be discovered as the villain of the piece. Coincidentally, just after Cecil's disclosure about Frederick Noronha's role vis a vis Goanet, I happened to be in Russia where among the academics I met, the central concerns were: a) the problem of growing corruption at all levels in that society including the Net, schools, colleges, universities, employment etc. The parallels with India seemed very close but the Transparency International League table now puts Russia at 147 compared to India at 85 out of 180 nations. b) the absence of a free press in Russia and the wide use of censorship. I naturally found it difficult to believe that Frederick Noronha whom I have always held to be a decent guy was the source of so much unrest among serious and highly educated posters on Goanet and therefore wish to make the following observations, knowing full well that this post is unlikely to appear on Goanet for the simple reason that Goanet cannot handle even the mildest form of constructive criticism. It will howeve be read widely and Goanet members will have access to it irespective of every means that Goanet tries to block it: 1. If indeed, Frederick Noronha is (with others) the owner of the Goanet site, I can accept that, it is his prerogative to reject those posts he does not personally consider acceptable for his site. However, he and his fellow site owners have TOTALLY FAILED to inform us posters that this is indeed a private site in which he (Frederick Noronha and unnamed associates) can do as they please with absolutely no regard for any accountability nor any concern for the posters. Had he and his associates acted properly, there would not be a need for several posters, unhappy with Goanet post rejections, to try to endlessly extract information from the so called moderators about the discernible pattern of post rejections. This lack of transparency regarding Frederick Noronha's hidden hand on Goanet is in my view, one clear illustration of corrupt practice on Goanet. Why on earth not just come clean and say that only what he says goes on Goanet instead of consistently pussy-footing about the 'constructive objectives' of Goanet, endlessly welcoming posts and commentary but operating very much like Lady Macbeth as an assassin from behind the scenes? 2. Another example of corrupt practice on Goanet is when consistency is absent. At least one moderator will provide a reason for the rejection of a post and indeed be named so that at least something may be done about it. Yet, virtually all others will remain anonymous (whoever they are) and will use the sham of a standardised rejection note. When the available Goanet protocol is followed up to seek an explanation for a rejection, the question simply ends up in limbo everytime. If Frederick permits this kind of corrupt practice as a site owner, questions are surely reasonable regarding his personal integrity in running an
[Goanet] India - the Nation at Cross-roads
India - The Nation at Cross-roads by Dr Euegene D`Souza, Mumbai Sep 26, 2008 Over the years the Indian nation is undergoing the trauma internal conflicts and communal clashes. Religious, linguistic, regional and cultural minorities have been under a siege from the fanatic and parochial elements who pose as the champions of their religion, language or culture. By such recurring activities of the radical groups the foundation of the nation that was built on the principle of unity in diversity is shaken to the core. Day in and day out we are treated to the distressing news of minorities being attacked; their places of worship, residences and business establishments are being burnt and destroyed. People belonging to other regions have been harassed. They are deprived from appearing for competitive exams in other cities and those who carry on their trade or petty business have been termed as ‘outsiders’ sending the message of insecurity among them. The radical elements, putting on the garb of ‘moral police’ have vandalized paintings of artists on the pretext of safeguarding their deities and culture being ridiculed. Linguistic chauvinists have been threatening the shop-keepers to put up hoardings as per their diktat and even did not hesitate to humiliate the iconic film family, the Bachchans alleging that the matriarch of the family had insulted the language of the region. All these developments are manifestations of a society that is increasingly becoming intolerant and obscurantist. The misinformation and attack on religious and linguistic minorities by indoctrinated and misguided fanatical elements from the majority groups is both unfortunate and unwarranted. There is a need for introspection among the right thinking members of the majority community as to why people, especially belonging to the lowest castes and untouchables have got themselves converted to those religions which have been considered to be egalitarian. Through the history it could be observed that many of those who had been marginalized and those who had been denied basic civil and human rights as well as forbidden to worship the deities of the upper castes had embraced the religions that gave them dignity and promised to better their economic and social conditions. The situation has changed since the independence of the country from the colonial rule. The constitution of India and social legislation including the reservation policy of the government has enabled the scheduled castes and tribes and the former untouchables to get better education, gainful employment and social mobility. Hence, these sections of the population need not depend on the missionaries to achieve their socio-economic goals. The schools and colleges, hospitals, orphanages, old age homes and other institutions run by the minorities, especially Christians cater to the needs of all irrespective of their religious affinity. Christians constitute two percent of the entire population. They are known to be peace-loving community and they lack political ambition. Then how they are a threat to the majority community? In Maharashtra, especially in Mumbai, the regional chauvinism has been manifested by harassment of north Indians, especially from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar. Terming these immigrants as ‘they’ as against ‘we’ has been a clever ploy to divide the people and gain political mileage. In both the cases-attack on religious minorities and harassment of ‘outsiders’, the hidden agenda of the perpetrators is neither religious nor regional, but purely political. Working on the human psychology, it is easier to consolidate the majority community behind a political party by pointing out ‘common enemies’-religious minorities at the wider level and ‘outsiders’ at the regional level. This experiment was successfully conducted in the last election in Gujarat. By pointing out the threat from the minorities to their religious faith, spreading misinformation regarding conversion activities and attacking the minorities, radical groups affiliated to certain political parties project themselves as the ‘defenders’ of the majority religion and hence, win them over emotionally and create a larger vote bank that would enable them to capture political power either at the state level as in Gujarat or at the national level. It is easier to create imaginary ‘enemies’ of and ‘threat’ to the majority religion in order to promote their political interests rather than taking up issues like temple reconstruction, which had failed to create majority vote banks earlier. In this case religion is sought to be used as a cementing factor for the majority community. The above analysis also holds good when political parties try to create ‘minority vote banks’ by using religion and pointing out threat to the minorities from majority religious groups. This model has also been applied at the regional level. In Maharashtra, the
[Goanet] Random thoughts... on Sangolda [http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com]
Sangolda… under the axe? Sangolda is a scenic village in Bardez, probably equidistant from both state-capital Panjim and the commercial town of Mapusa. For long, like other parts of the 'Old Conquests' (the longer-held Portuguese former colonies), many in this village have been migrating far and wide (including globally) to earn a living. But now, with Goa becoming a hot centre for real-estate speculation and second- or third-homes for the affluent, there are pressures on this land too. Says Goa's just-out Draft Regional Plan for Goa-2021: Then there are the 'second homes' which are much in demand by people from other parts of India, that are filling up the landscape of Goa. Most of these apartments and houses are left unoccupied for much of the year. This is deeply resented by the local population — and the Task-Force recommends some disincentives that can be considered. As for instance, a higher tax on housing held by non-residents levied by the local panchayat for, say, the first five years.) Here's a rustic shot of the Sangolda-Guirim area taken a few (maybe 3-4) years ago, during a morning walk. It's still rustic in parts, but the pressures are visible: More on the setting here: Over the past fortnight, there were signs of rebuilding going on in parts of the village. House renovation is a notorious clause (or, loophole) in the Goa building laws, which allows someone to take over an old home, build a concrete monstrosity in its place, and claim that the home is being renovated or redone! This is from just alongside the CHOGM (Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting Retreat, 1983) road: And here's another old house which is under the axe. (I used to pass by it almost daily, and read the legend DFVD D'Souza, 1907″, if I recall right. One can only imagine the work, toil, sweat, tears and heartburn, apart from stories of Goan out-migration, that had gone into building these homes, generations ago): Incidentally, the fields at Sangolda, not too long ago (maybe a decade back), used to be held up as a show-piece of Goa's successful agricultural policies. As (younger) journalists, were were shown the progressive farmers in the area, and how their work was yielding rich crops. Today, these very places have become spots for the wholesale sale of field-well water … to cope with the tourism, real-estate, industrial and unsustainable hilltop housing booms that Goa is seeing. Below photo, close to Sangolda, on the Guirim-Saligao end. And another one of scenic fields, a Goa many fear we would lose in the rush to money, money and GDP. I often wonder what makes some Goan villages more succesptible than others when it comes to succumbing to the building boom. Is it land-ownership patterns and bhadkarism-munkarism (landlord-tenant) tussles? Is it a corrupt panchayat (village council, waiting to be sold out to the highest bidder)? Is it the mind of the builders and the politicians? (One can't forget the role of a Parulekar in siting an industrial estate on a hillock of his constituency, on very questionable grounds, even while officials and specialists apparently didn't successfully question such an approach.) As the above-cited Draft Regional Paln for Goa 2021 says, There are 20 industrial estates in the State — many of which raise critical issues in regard to siting, infrastructure availability, and the unfortunate mismatch between local skills and jobs available, etc. RP-2021 seeks to rectify the situation by generating appropriate jobs where they are most needed. Firstly, the process of allocation of plots at industrial estates should be extremely transparent and should follow the policies established by the State. The current method leaves much to be desired…. Just some random thoughts generated by a couple of photos (taken above)…. Blogged with the Flock Browser Tags: goa, villages, real-estate, land speculation, sangolda, bardez, guirim Written by fredericknoronha September 26, 2008 at 6:05 pm Posted in Goa, Goan Diaspora, Opinion You can see the photos at http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org Blog: http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Tech links from South Asia: http://twitter.com/fn M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490
Re: [Goanet] Transparency in Government - where do our taxes go ?
Is corruption endemic to India? 24 Sep. 2008: Times Now. Corruption in India seems to be getting from bad to worse. The 2008 Transparency International (TI) Report places India is the 85th most corrupt nation in the world. Last year it was 72nd . The most corrupt sectors in India is the police closely followed by the political establishment and the lower judiciary. For full text see http://www.timesnow.tv/Newsdtls.aspx?NewsID=16673 For the full TI 2008 survey see http://www.transparency.org/news_room/in_focus/2008/cpi2008/cpi_2008_table
[Goanet] Fwd: Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites
It is sometimes important for pure nonsense to go through too. That's the price we all pay for free speech. FN 2008/9/26 CORNEL DACOSTA [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OPEN LETTER TO GOANET AND OTHER GOAN RELATED WEBSITES We have had Cecil Pinto's confirmation on GX (GoenchimXapotam) that, it is Frederick Noronha who rejects large numbers of posts sent to Goanet without the slightest whiff of an explanation. This disclosure has not been rebutted by Frederick for over a fortnight and I therefore want to congratulate him on his contribution towards corruption and the absence of transparency for which India has just been rated 85th out of 180 countries on the Transparency International Survey. But what on earth am I talking about? ... -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org Blog: http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Tech links from South Asia: http://twitter.com/fn M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490
[Goanet] An open letter to the Chief Minister of Karnataka
From: ambrose pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/9/19 Dear Friends, I am sending to you an open letter the college has sent signed by 75 of its teaching staff to the Chief Minister of Karnataka Ambrose Pinto SJ 18th September 2008 An Open Letter to the Chief Minister of Karnataka from St. Joseph's College, Bangalore Dear Sir, We write to you as members of the Staff of St. Joseph's College and as secular citizens of the state of Karnataka deeply distressed by the recent attacks on educational institutions and churches in Mangalore and elsewhere in Karnataka. We are a college of 126 years, the very first private college of the city with a rich legacy of educating generations of students of different faiths in the ideals of democracy and secularism. Thousands of citizens in the state owe their education into secularism to this college where students have lived and learned as members of one human family. We are also aware of your high esteem for the college. It is due to that high regard for the institution that you had admitted your son here and he had successfully passed out from the portals of the college. Our contributions to the nation goes right back in time, to those dark and frightful years of British imperialism. We as an institution, perhaps the only one in the state, have participated in the freedom struggle of the country. The college had protested against British colonialism, raising the National Tricolor as a banner of national revolt on our premises against the British Raj. Our students were hunted and jailed by British Police for participating in the Quit India movement. The names of Ratnakar Rai and Kripakaran are synonymous with the early struggles while Deendayalu Naidu and P.S. Sundaram Reddy were with the Quit India movement. Several of our students were tortured and repressed in these jails for their struggles for the freedom of the country. Fr. Ferroli, the Warden was interned in the jail in Whitfield. and Fr. Boniface D' Souza was the person who prevented the police from taking students into custody during the last phase of the freedom struggle. That spirit of secularism and nationalism still exists in this campus and we have not deviated from that. It is this love for the nation that prompts and urges us to write to you. Over the years, we have educated a variety of students, pundits, scientists, activists, journalists, technocrats, bureaucrats, politicians, businessmen, sportspersons and women primarily from the state of Karnataka though there have been students from outside the state and the country. We have never imposed a world-view of our own on the students. Instead we have encouraged critical thinking and learning. Freedom of thought and expression has always characterized education in St. Joseph's. We can claim with tremendous pride that we have produced stimulating intellectuals, prominent change-makers at the grass root level and provided able administrators to the nation and particularly to the State of Karnataka. M. P. Ghorpade, Kumara Bangarappa, M.P. Prakash, Bachche Gowda, Narayanaswamy, Allum Veerabhadarappa and a host of bureaucrats are all our former students. Many of our former students work in different fields of life as innovators and policy-framers. Moreover we have enhanced our services these many years to foster the needs and desires of the marginalized. We continue to admit and provide educational opportunities to a wide community of educationally and socially backward classes, scheduled castes and scheduled tribes. We have thus produced sensitive and learned leaders among the Dalit and backward communities. We are extremely proud of students from subaltern communities who have turned into agents of radical social change. Our credentials as a secular and progressive institution concerned about the well-being of all is a truth well known to all. St. Joseph's College belongs to no party. But we remain concerned with what is taking place in the state. Inculcating social awareness and increasing social concern is one of the main thrusts of the college. As an educational institution with high moral and ethical credentials, we are concerned about the divisive politics that polarizes people on the basis of religion. Your party has come to power on the plank of development. You have also celebrated with great pride your hundred days in power claiming that nearly 90% of your development manifesto has been fulfilled. We may have different view of that but we will not debate that here. What disturbs us is the mean claim that your party and your cadres make that Christian institutions are involved in forced conversion just to defame and malign. Every citizen in this country has been given the right to practice, profess and propagate one's
Re: [Goanet] What To Do In Falling Markets - Off Topic
From: Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] What To Do In Falling Markets - Off Topic The?current US?capitalism model is: Privatize the profits, socialize the losses. In the above sense, the US system has truly and unabashedly been about socialism for the rich and wealthy class. A model that many others countries have learnt to follow. venantius j pinto
Re: [Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites
I don't know about the rest of Goanetters but I would never take the word of a Cecil Pinto against that of fine man like Frederick Noronha. selma --- On Fri, 9/26/08, CORNEL DACOSTA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have had Cecil Pinto's confirmation on GX (GoenchimXapotam) that, it is Frederick Noronha who rejects large numbers of posts sent to Goanet without the slightest whiff of an explanation.
[Goanet] Brestar-Podd'dea Fatlean-27 'Oxem Ghoddta Teddnam....
BRESTAR - PODD'DEA FATTLEAN:(27) Oxem Ghoddta Teddnam... Wilmix Wilson Mazarello Voros 1998 :- Eka namnechya Tiatristacho tiatr ( Gomant Vidya Niketan “Hall”-ant, Margao) Tiatr suru zauncho vell:- Sanzchim, 3.30 vaztam Tiatr suru zauncho vell, “pass” zaun ghoddialar 3.40 vazlelim. Ek “ostori kolakar” azun “Hall”-ant pavunk nasli. Ti “ostori kolakar” nastana, tiatr kossoch korunk zaina, tosli tichi bhumika asli.. Lokan bovall ghalunk suru kelo. “Tiatr suru korat re”, mhunn lok bobo marunk laglo. “Hall’-ant, chikar lok bhorlolo. Fattlyan saun tornattyani “fiunneom” ghalunk suru keleo. Sogloch, Bovall-Bovall-Bovall. Tiatrachya “Director”-ak “tension” , kolakarank “tension’, muzgankarank “tension”. Punn, tiatr koso suru korunk zatolo ? Pavunk nam ti ostori, tiatrant mukhel bhumika korunk asli. Punn, tiatr koslea karannank lagun suru zaina, hachem khorem karann mat , azun lokank khobor nasli. Anink thoddea vellan , kaim lok “green-room”-ant eun, “Director”-ak dhomki diunk lagle. “Director”, lipun bhonvunk laglo. Tiatr suru kelo zalear , survatechim don kantaram zatanch , te “ostore-kolakar”-achi “entry’ asli. Ani zorui ten’nai tem pavona zalear, magir kitem korpachem ? Hem chintun “Director” fattim-fuddem zatalo. Teach dissak , toch tiatr pollounk ek “Senior Tiatrist’ ostori. Bai Clara, Hall-ant bossun aslem Lokancho bovall sonsunk zaina zaun , tem babddem, khobor gheunya mhunn “Green –room”-ant bhitor sorlem. “Director’-an tika, somtench “ek aanj kosso paulem” mhunnon, hiche-tiche kopdde nessoilem , “make-up” kelem ,anink mukhel “ostore-kolakar”-achi bhumika korunk laili. Clara, ek onbhovik kolakar aslolyan, tinnem ti bhumika keli ani tea dissak, to tiatr zalo. Bhumika korunk asli ti “ostori-kolakar” tiatrak eunkuch nam. Ti kityak eunk nam ? Ti nastana tiatr kitlo boro zalo ? Heam, osleam proxnnancher, atam ami bhasabhas korchinhum. Punn, hi ghoddnni sangpachem ekuch karann mhunntlear, he ghoddnnentlean amkam sogleank ek lissaum xikunk mell’lem.”Kitem passun zaum eta tem, zorui ek tiatrantlo kolakar, okosmat tiatrak ienastana raulo / raulem, zalear”. Voros 2000:- Hovui, anik eka, titleach nanv-vostea Tiatrist-acho tiatr. Zaago:- Murida , Fatorda / Borda. Tiatr suru zaupacho vell:- Sanzchim 7 vaztam. “Director”, Tiatrist, “Musician’, , sogle vellar paulole. Sanzchim 6.30 vazlelim. “Band-Leader” apli trumpet bhair kaddunk gelolo , tednanch taka kollun ailem ki , to tiatrachea kantaranchim ani “kant”-anchim soglim “solfam” ghara visrun aila. Vell lainastana, tannem bhaddeachi “motorcycle” keli ani ghara vochpachi vatt dhorli, tim “solfam” haddunk. Tachem ghor borench pois aslem. To begin porot paupachi xokeach nasli. Tiatr suru zauncho vell , sanzchim 7 vaztam dil’lo. Sadde-saat vazun gelim. Lok mattvant bhitor sorunk laglo. Anink thoddea vellan, tea dissacho “Chief Guest” paulo. Lok mattvant bhorlo. Ratchim 8 vazlim. “Band-Leader azun pavunk nam. Lokancho bovall suru zalo.. Totnatteani fiunneom ghalpak suru kelem. Konn eklo, mottean mhunnunk laglo “ tiatr komes korum vell ass zalear, muzgank tori vazoeai mhunn sangai re”. Muzgank “vazoi” mhunn kosso sangtolo ? Tea dissak tiatr vazounk ekuch “trumpeter” also, ani tovui “solfam” haddunk ghara gel’lo assa. “Contrador”-ancher, lok ulounk lagle. “Contrador” bhieon , “Director”-ak sodhunk, vedi-fattlean ailo. “Director”-an taka somzailo. Punn, lokank konn somzaitolo? Lok aikona tem polloun, “Director”-an vedir ubo ravun, lokank somzaupacho proitn kelo, punn lokan taka “oosh!” mhunnon dhaunddailo. Bovall ! Bovall ! Bovall ! Tiatr, suruch zaina tem polloun, lokam ani contradoram modem kestaum pettlem. Eka-mekachea angar hath ghalun, mara-mari zaupacho vell paulolo. Tednanch, sumar 8.15 vaztam, amcho “Band-Leader” solfam gheun, paulo. Takai lokan “oosh! mhunnon ,, lojek ghalo. Babddean loz sonsun, fokot donunch minttani, tiatr suru kelo. Tiatr koso zalo,? Guneaum konnancho ? heam osleam proxnnancher bhasabhas korun faido nam. Punn, hivui ghoddnni sangpachem karann mhunnttlear, hevui ghoddnnentlean amkam sogleank anink ek lissaum xikunk mell’lem “ Tiatrant , zann eklean ap-apli zabadari sambhallunk gorjechem” Tech porim “kosle haal zaum etat te , zorui ekuch “muzg”, okosmat tiatrak, ienastana raulo zalear” Voros 2006:-. Hovui ek “professional” tiatristachoch tiatr. Zaago:- Kala Akademi, Dinanath Mangeshkar Hall , Ponje. Tiatr suru zauncho vell dil’lo, “sanzchim 3.30 vaztam”. Tea tiatrant zaitech “Light-effects” ani “Light”-incher dakhoupacheo “trick-scenes” astoleo mhunn “Director”-an, apleam jahiratincher , zahir kel’lem. Tiatr suru zaucho vell, 3,30 vazlim. Sogle kolakar hajir asle. Fokot “Light-Operator” pavunk naslo. “Mhaka lagun uskenakat, hanv ‘direct’, Ponje ‘Hall’-akodde etolom”, mhunn tannem “Director-ak sanglelem. Punn
[Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites
Cornel DaCosta seems to be distressed that his deserving and enlightening posts have not seen the light of day on Goanet. To be honest I too have suspected Fred Noronha of being an arbitrary and high handed editor of goanet. But I have neither the time nor the inclination to offer myself for this honorary post. Maybe the moderators need to offer the editor's post to Cornel DaCosta for a term. I hope Cornel volunteers or else forever holds his peace.
[Goanet] India's Forex Reserves $ 300 Bil - Reserves is a grossly misleading term
With the unending US Financial Hurricane season (Hurricane Bear Sterns, Fannie, Hurricane Freddie, Hurricane Lehman...AIG...WAMU...and Hurricane Credit Card Default season to follow) the Indian economy is not exactly rocking as it was this time last year. Goa's tourism is also poised to take a hit from the global downturn and its worth taking a look at how comfortable India's foreign currency balance is. The RBI website has interesting data: http://rbidocs.rbi.org.in/rdocs/Publications/PDFs/85765.pdf The RBI term Forex Reserves is usually thought to mean net of Liabilities. This is not the case and the word Reserves ought to be replaced by the correct term Assets. Forex Reserves (Assets) have slipped since Q1 highs to $ 289.5 Bil (12-Sep-08) Foreign Debt (Liabilities) $ 221.2 bil (31-Mar-08) was up $51.5 Bil since 31-Mar-07 See table on page 5 of the report - Over 17 years the cumulative Current Account remained firmly negative -$52.4 Billion In fact the most recent years Current account shows consistent negative nos 2004-05 -ve $ 5.4 Bil 2005-06 -ve $ 10.6 Bil 2006-07 -ve $ 9.8 Bil 2007-08 -ve $ 17.4 Bil Invisibles incl Software exports Inward remittances (NRIs?) brought in $40Bil each in 07-08 When the US fin earthquake began rolling last week (its far from ending?) RBI ordered Indian banks to increase FCNR deposit rates by 50bps. Besides Software Remittancs, FDI and FII have also been key drivers behind INR strength till 2007. They have headed for the door in Q2-08. As India's demands for Capital Infrastructure Goods (including Aircraft and Business acquisitions like Corus Jaguar) increases the Foreign Debt figure will continue to rise. With imports growing faster than exports Rupee devaluation was desperately needed and achieved (-18% versus USD) With banks in trouble and a recession in US/Europe software exports may be in trouble. Oil price declines are desperately needed by India.(Petroleum related net outflows were $54.7 Bil in 07-08) We must hope that Foreign Investors will find that, deep rooted government corruption notwithstanding, Indian investment offers superior returns.(though there are some economists who believe that growth with the distortion of chronic corruption is not sustainable). The Indian household consumption credit market after all has a very long way to go before reaching the bubble levels of the US. Risk has always been encouraged by the US Fed cheap credit policy. Imagine interest rates @ 1-2% in a highly leveraged economy with steeply negative household capital formation. Time will tell whether an inflation focussed ECB (and RBI) is right to keep money expensive. Whether its better to have higher unemployment than a worth-less currency of a banana republic that consumes far far more than it produces. Changes in Indias Forex Assets (mistakenly called Reserves) India Forex ReservesChange per RBI converted includes FX to USD Revaluation 12-Sep 289461 650 EUR=1.40 05-Sep 288811 -6498 EUR=1.42 29-Aug 295309 -1977 22-Aug 297286 1076 15-Aug 296210 -17324 18-Apr 313534 37975 EUR=1.60 28-Dec 275559 EUR=1.47 RBI Report: The External Economy http://rbidocs.rbi.org.in/rdocs/Publications/PDFs/85866.pdf
Re: [Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites
Cecil's answer is below. It was titled Reply on behalf of GoaNet. Parts of it are uncannily close to the truth :-) Your guess which (and I'm not referring to the complimentary parts alone). FN 2008/9/26 J. Colaco jc [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My dear Selma, Did you read the totality of what Cecil wrote? IF NOT on what basis are you making the comment quoted infra? jc 2008/9/26 Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't know about the rest of Goanetters but I would never take the word of a Cecil Pinto against that of fine man like Frederick Noronha Santosh Helekar asked: 1. How many Goanet moderators are there, and what are their names? Answer: http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=9 Herman Carneiro, Boston, MA, USA Frederick FN Noronha, Goa, India Viviana Coelho, San Francisco, CA, USA Bosco D'Mello, Toronto, Canada In descending order of knowledge of Goa, Goans and Konkani: Frederick FN Noronha, Goa, India Bosco D'Mello, Toronto, Canada Herman Carneiro, Boston, MA, USA Viviana Coelho, San Francisco, CA, USA Herman has moderated nothing for many years. Viviana moderates once in a way. Just to show she is around and in a powerful position. She knows precious zilch about real life in Goa. Bosco does most of the work and is King. But it is Frederick who is God and steers everything exactly the way he wants it. Don't believe any crap he gives about not bening involved with GoaNet moderation. --- 2. How are the moderator duties divided between them? Answer: A hot potato posting is bounced between them till someone decides to take responsibility. Bosco and Viviana may be flawed in their moderation (who isn't?) but mostly have the decency to sign their names to a rejection. If you see an anonymous rejection it is Frederick's work. Sometimes a hot potato just disappears, thanks to Frederick, without any other moderator knowing what happened. I have often offered my considerable Net expertise for free as a moderator but been refused. They ask for volunteers often but only for the 'junior' positions. Frederick love power and is not willing to give up what he has built over so many years. I don't blame him. Only wish he would be open about his actions. 3. Are all Goanet members placed on moderation, or are there some whose messages are allowed to show up on Goanet unmoderated? Answer: There are a few who are in unmoderated mode. It is none of your business to know who and why. -- 4. Does the history of a poster on Goanet determine how closely his/her posts are screened? Answer: Is the Pope Catholic? - 5. What is done to ensure that there is no ideological bias in rejection or acceptance of posts e.g. supporters of BJP vs Congress vs Marxist party, Christian viewpoint vs Hindu viewpoint, etc? Answer: Fortunately Frederick is pretty balanced in his views so he gives a pretty even playing field. It is only when his personal interests are at stake that he comes down strong. - 6. Can the actual reason for rejection be stated more clearly, and the name of the person who moderated the post be provided, each time a post is rejected? Answer: No. That would expose Frederick. -- As Frederick has said time and again, if you feel you have a better model then feel free to start a new Goa Cyber Group yourself. Frederick made Goanet what it is through sheer dint of hard work. He deserves to control it any way he chooses. Cheers! Cecil -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org Blog: http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Tech links from South Asia: http://twitter.com/fn M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490
Re: [Goanet] What To Do In Falling Markets - Off Topic
Devise an enduring parachute, Guruji AT, happily with none funds to save... Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:55:57 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] What To Do In Falling Markets - Off Topic Folks, Let me stick to the (off) topic here.If you have five years or more before you need to access the money you have in the stock market, the best thing for you to do right now is probably nothing. If you have less than five years, see the person who advised you to buy the stocks you have. S/he will be best placed to give you advice, depending on what your current situation is and what info s/he has about you on file. Personally, I think the stock markets are heading for a crash since the US financial system has collapsed. I have raised a lot of (non-US) cash and will only start buying mutual funds after the crash.These decisions are made on the following facts: 1) Bill Clinton left the US with a budget surplus of 560 BILLION dollars. The US treasury is now broke. 2) When Clinton entered office, the Dow was at 3,300 points. When he left, it was at 11,000 points. 3) We have had eight years of debauching of the value of the US dollar. 4) Increase in the supply of money ALWAYS results in inflation. 5) Both US presidential candidates promise more of the McPain. Mervyn3.0 The current US capitalism model is: Privatize the profits, socialize the losses. _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx
Re: [Goanet] What To Do In Falling Markets - Off Topic
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:55:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] These? decisions are made on the following facts: 1) Bill Clinton left the US with a budget surplus of 560 BILLION dollars. The?US treasury is now broke. 2) When?Clinton entered office, the Dow was at 3,300 points. When he left, it was at 11,000 points. 3) We have had eight years of debauching of the value of the US dollar. 4) Increase in the supply of money?ALWAYS results in inflation. 5)?Both US presidential candidates?promise more of the McPain.? Mario responds: Folks, as a general rule, I never have a problem with a recommendation if the person is following his or her own recommendations. That's the only true test of whether someone is serious about their recommendations. If they are not, then they're simply bloviating and their recommendations are meaningless. In a previous life I was responsible for a $100 million corporate pension fund. The only managers we hired to manage our funds were those who could show us that they had become millionaires from investing their own money. These are hard to find but they're out there. The theory was, If you haven't made yourself rich from your investing skills, why should I believe you will make a lot of money for us? This cuts through all the fancy presentations and tap dancing that pension fund managers can put together. Mervyn has previously told us that anyone taking a recommendation by him on Goanet deserves their fate:-)) So he has already warned everyone:-)) However, I must say that finally, after several tries, Mervyn has listed some recognizeable, albeit selective, facts, as well as some unrecognizeable ones, and, as usual, without much context or perspective. Thankfully, he has given up the absurd comparisons with the USSR and the Weimar Republic, though he is still peddling his comical assertion that Bill Clinton had successfully and singlehandedly managed the economy during his watch. In the US economic system there is very little the President can do on his own. He doesn't even have day to day control of the money supply which is the responsibility of the independent Federal Reserve Bank. To say the US Treasury is now broke seems to show an ignorance of the fact that the US Treasury has been in a debt position for decades, underwritten by the size of its considerable assets and GDP. The reason the US dollar has been the lead currency for decades is because the US has always had a strong and growing economy and has always been considered a safe place to invest for investors from all over the world. The US GDP is at all time highs, and even the larger projected deficits are at normal levels when related to the US GDP at around 3%. As any rational observer would know, it has hardly been business as usual for the US since 9/11. When Clinton left office the US economy and the Dow were both declining. Subsequently the Dow recovered and reached a high above 14,000, then declined due to the currrent financial crisis caused by inappropriate real estate lending practices by the banking industry, encouraged by some left wing politicians who wanted low income Americans to be able to own their own homes. The crisis is being addressed and will be corrected. The increase in the money supply does not always lead to inflation if it is offset by productivity increases. The US inflation rate if averaged over several months is far below that of many industrial economies. The two US presidential candidates have sharply opposing views of how to run the US economy. Barack Obama is a virtual socialist, where John McCain is a virtual capitalist.
Re: [Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites
Dear Doc, Infra-vide or infra-red, for a long time now my email intuitively spams Cecil Pinto's posts. Sometimes when I check my spam folder, I find them wedged between some Nigerian scam and news that I've won the Canadian lottery. Artificial intelligence is very good at detecting the similarity between mails. selma --- On Fri, 9/26/08, J. Colaco jc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: J. Colaco jc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 12:09 PM My dear Selma, Did you read the totality of what Cecil wrote? IF NOT on what basis are you making the comment quoted infra? jc 2008/9/26 Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't know about the rest of Goanetters but I would never take the word of a Cecil Pinto against that of fine man like Frederick Noronha
[Goanet] Moderators - Goanet dated 26/9
Without prejudice, I personally think Frederick Noronha is doing a fine job as moderator. Bernice Pereira Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/
[Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites
Dear Selma, Ultra violet or ultra vires, I personally believe that one should read a post before commenting on it. For one, party D might mis-represent (willfully or negligently) what party P has said about party N It also helps - to know the status of the script i.e. Was it a serious piece, a piece of satire,or a piece of 50-50. That is why a 'news item on Not the Nine O'Clock News (for instance) would carry a significantly different connotation than the same item on the Nine O' Clock News. Time for me to experience the Port-a-Loo in my Gated Commune. jc 2008/9/26 Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Doc, Infra-vide or infra-red, for a long time now my email intuitively spams Cecil Pinto's posts. Sometimes when I check my spam folder, I find them wedged between some Nigerian scam and news that I've won the Canadian lottery. Artificial intelligence is very good at detecting the similarity between mails.
Re: [Goanet] Bizarre Foods: Goa
Mmm...what's the name of the place? Mandrem, right! I thought the programme was problematic in other ways too. Reflects the Western tourists' perception of our paradise. FN PS: Would you share your views on Goanet, since it came up there? 2008/9/26 Naguesh Bhatcar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fred, I happened to watch it on the Travel Channel a couple of days ago. The only thing that bothered me was his mention of Goanese. One question -- Isn't that Ayurveda treatment a typical Kerala setup? Until later... Naguesh Naguesh Bhatcar [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org Blog: http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Tech links from South Asia: http://twitter.com/fn M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490
Re: [Goanet] What To Do In Falling Markets - Off Topic
Mario, I am a bit surprised that my observation elicited the observation, shallow and grossly misleading and totally out of context. Unless you are saying that rich people have to be rewarded through a variety of techniques that should never be addressed as socialism for the rich, but perhaps just rewards for their initiatives in generating wealth, and in offering people like me a job. You also quote some valuable statistics, all very true indeed. Yes it well may be 97% or even more, but what would that 97% entail if the upper 50% were paid what they really owed. I know I do not control that but can include this as a relevant point. That mite in the form of income taxes from the upper 50% would be an astronomical 97% then. A bailout is also maintaining business as usual. But what do paintbrushes like me know? Anyway Mario, You have finally made your self amply clear to me. Someday you just may see things differently. I am always very hopeful, since you are a sharp individual. But thinking again, its better to just listen in on your comments, rather than even briefly commenting as I do with some other topics. No point in me interjecting in an area you have probably thrived in, and see very differently. Perhaps this too is out of context, but I will say it. A while ago a person who I esteem made a point to me that I should concentrate more on my personal work, rather than engage on Goanet — which is any case I do quite sparingly and that too on issues which are far from finance and economics. Its time to take his advice. Considering what I just said abouve, this is my last post on this topic. Keep thriving. Venantius J Pinto Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:08:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mervyn Lobo wrote: The current US capitalism model is: Privatize the profits, socialize the losses. Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:25:05 -0400 From: Venantius Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the above sense, the US system has truly and unabashedly been about socialism for the rich and wealthy class. A model that many others countries have learnt to follow. Mario responds: While Mervyn's model is cute and Venantius sounds plausible on the surface, both these observations are shallow and grossly misleading and totally out of context and perspective. To begin with, I would like to know when was the last time Venantius was offered a job by a poor person? Most failing corporations in the US are not bailed out by the government.? They either go out of business or are acquired by other companies at a considerable loss to their owners.? A bailout is the exception, not the rule. Regarding socialism for the rich, the bottom 50% of US taxpayers paid only 3% of total income?taxes in 2006.? The upper 50%?paid 97% of total income taxes.
Re: [Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites
Folks, The discussion about GoaNet moderation has come as no surprise but the acrimony it has generated causes me concern. There are valid arguments on all sides, each person giving vent to their despair of what they see as requisites to improving the GoaNet service. There are no villains on the stage only Heroes and Heroines! As I see it, the discussion is basically about two ends of the spectrum. FN and the rest of the admin team is concerned about the number of members to join GoaNet and leave soon afterwards. He prefers the GoaNet digest version, posts in plain text and would like the number of contributors increased. Cornel would like to see less moderation and more messages. There is no reason why we should have to choose between one and the other. GoaNet had not changed much since its inception and is still essentially an email based service for contributors. Many other discussion lists have turned into web-based services and there are many advantages of going down that path. Now that broadband and fast internet speeds are here, the old arguments about cost are no longer valid. The main advantage would be to split the discussion list into threads and give readers the option of subscribing to all discussions or only those threads that interest them. One of the current problems is that it is impossible to find previous posts on a subject such as recommended restaurants, internet connections, recent books etc. Also, some discussions on topics like sports, employment, village nets have been moved to separate lists. There is no reason why they cannot have separate threads in GoaNet. One keyword search, say on fishing or restaurant* would bring together discussion on that topic. To provide specific examples how this would work, take a look as some Goa-related wed-based discussion lists: 1. British Expats.com. http://britishexpats.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=6773bb87d7adda768edac61914 c9ec70f=94 Discussion on topics such as Hiring a Car in Goa; Medical care in Goa; Where Do You Buy Your Diamonds in Goa 2. Holiday Truths.com. http://www.holidaytruths.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=60 Topics such as Malaria; Restaurants; Wifi 3. India Mike. http://www.indiamike.com/india/goa-f23/ Threads such as Sim/Phone cards; Motorbike Rental; Dentists in Goa. If GoaNet switches to a web-based service, readers will be able to select the threads that interest them, messages by email would be reduced, searching for information will be efficient and posting in plain text would not be compulsory And as less moderation would be required, let there be Peace! Eddie Fernandes
Re: [Goanet] Bizarre Foods: Goa
From: Frederick [FN] Noronha * Mmm...what's the name of the place? Mandrem, right! I thought the programme was problematic in other ways too. Reflects the Western tourists' perception of our paradise. FN FN, Familiarity does dull the edge of perception and it can be refreshing to read accounts by outsiders, be they Westerners or Easterners! The Yoga segment of the programme is described at http://www.gadling.com/2008/09/26/andrew-zimmern-of-bizarre-foods-trip-to-an -ayurvedic-health-cen/print/ It was shot at the Ayurvedic Health Centre http://www.healthandayurveda.com/ The programme itself was 30 minutes long and should be available in a day or two from http://andrew-zimmern-podcast.travelchannel.com/ Eddie PS: Would you share your views on Goanet, since it came up there? 2008/9/26 Naguesh Bhatcar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fred, I happened to watch it on the Travel Channel a couple of days ago. The only thing that bothered me was his mention of Goanese. One question -- Isn't that Ayurveda treatment a typical Kerala setup?
[Goanet] A major crises in the Church - article by George
Dears. So what is exactly happening? Is it easy to convert people by buying them into christianity for few rupees? Are they willing to forgo centuries old customs of their forefathers just for few rupees? What about other benefits that they get being from lower caste system like jobs, entrance to educational systems, where even the some with money wont get, on their sc/st certificates? Wont they forgo this opportunity by changing their faith? Something to think about. And if this is really true, that as people switch their alliance to parties at the time of election, they are willing to switch their alliance for religion for few rupees, than what are the filty rich Hindus doing? I bet they can buy the entire other religon communities into their fold. Isnt it? Foolish assumptions, but that is what we are being fed in the news for the last few days, by many and along with them is our very Goan from Bicholim Salvi. For years there have been many Hindus who have been visiting Milagres church in Mapuca and praying there with no problems and no conversion. Same has been happening at Mahim for Novenas on Wednesdays. As to what I have heard, even in Madras at Valankani, Thousands of Hindus visit and pray, and no conversion, so what is this? Since when did Hindus change their attitude that they go on massive distruction of minorities? Why this sudden fear? Certainly as Agnelo and Marshall say, its a hidden agenda of the political parties and nothing to do with religion. Cheers Jerry Fernandes Message: 4 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:52:55 +0400 From: Freddy Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Ref: A major crises in the Church - article by George To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In Support of: Message: 3 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:49:44 +0530 (IST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://f5plus.rediff.com/iris/Main?do=writemaillogin=session_id=mode=mail_to _individual¬op=1email=marshallmendonza%40indiatimes%2Ecom Subject: [Goanet] A major crises in the Church - article by George Menezes Hi Marshall, That indeed was a thought provoking and brain shaking article I still firmly believe that all this is not a religious agenda. I don't think any average Hindu gives a two hoot about conversions than any one of us does about catholic girls marrying guys from other religions. This is just a political game for the politicians, and the Hindu fundamentalist organizations, who have full support and backing of these slimy leaders, brain wash the lower class Hindus, who act as puppets in the hands of these politicians, who have no care nor reverence for human lives as long as they see power and position coming their way. Conversion is just an excuse to blind and bind the majority community for their own personal agendas power and position at any cost, and unfortunately we have become the fall guys and have to pay the price for their acrimonious ambitions. As rightly stated in the article, we as a community have failed to unite and produce consensus leaders to take up our cause at the top. As it is also said that Rome burnt while Nero played his harp, we keep on fighting within our selves in trying to upstage each other while our brethren burn in Orissa and else where. Now every one is trying to assess the damage done and do damage control, What was done to avoid this carnage in the first place, as stated, these atrocities were going on since independence and now it seems to have exploded and looks like the worst is yet to come. As stated, no one can guarantee that this will not happen again. When and where will it all end ? Even in damage control what have the Authorities done to apprehend the culprits ? It's a proven fact that the RSS and the Bajrangdal were the Hitlers in act, why are the leaders of these terrorist organizations still not charge sheeted, are they any different from the other terrorists who are linked to SIMI and their likes ? Why is the centre so soft on this issue ? Is it because the Catholic community does retaliate or our religion is against violence ? Which religion supports violence, non for that matter so why Hindus against Muslims and Christians and Muslims against Hindus, for what purpose ? To me it's just one answer POLITICS nothing else. As of now it's high time our Christian leaders unite and work out ways to keep their respective flocks updated and ready for any eventuality with gathered info and intelligence and avail it to all the respective leaders so that we react before, to avoid a situation, rather than react later, to do damage control. As also stated in the article, we certainly are in need of good genuine and powerful Catholic leaders in politics to take up our causes, be it local or be it central the more the better. As further stated in the article, we are certainly paying a heavy price for our blind faith in the Congress Party. We have not
[Goanet] Goa news for September 27, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Scarlett murder: Case seems to be falling apart - Expressindia.com [Sep 25, 2008] In both the cases, Goa Childrens Court while pronouncing the bail order has mentioned that there is no material on record to prove their involvement in the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Scarlett-murder--Case-seems-to-be-falling-apart/365812/cid=1250010477ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNGPJxd6Co6Wr0XxepR-YSQ0JScvEQ *** I-League Weekend Preview - Goal.com [9 hours ago] The opening day has two fixtures with the first being newly promoted Vasco SC take on Sporting Club De Goa. The Goan derby wonthold much promise and ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=883192cid=1249800482ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNEMLsIhYDCsLAhreMHfv4G4YflyVg *** I-League Preview: Sporting Club De Goa Vasco SC - Goal.com [22 hours ago] What: I-League, Match day I Who: Sporting Club De Goa v/s Vasco SC When: Friday, 26th September 2008, 1600 IST Where: Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium, Goa. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.goal.com/en-india/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=882371cid=1250591595ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNEtqNxlqIXhgKaoiVbWAmPN89c0xA *** Goa govt to appoint financial consultant for 6th pay comm - Economic Times [13 hours ago] 26 Sep, 2008, 1525hrs IST, PTI PANAJI: Goa government has decided to appoint a financial consultant who will tell the state how to mop up funds for ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Jobs/Goa_govt_to_appoint_financial_consultant_for_6th_pay_comm/articleshow/3530966.cmscid=1250926426ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNHrxNsEW_H1zUjq_Ja6zbUS2pSWZA *** Bizarre Foods with Andrew Zimmern: Goa, the spice of life - Gadling [Sep 25, 2008] by Jamie Rhein Sep 25th 2008 @ 12:30PM From the first shot of Goa in this week's episode of Bizarre Foods, I could smell the aromas. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.gadling.com/2008/09/25/bizarre-foods-with-andrew-zimmern-goa-the-spice-of-life/print/cid=0ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNGVmsGmcq_pav7bexNXizY0YLE1KA *** Emigration: the great escape - Telegraph.co.uk [8 minutes ago] I'm shortly going to see three properties in Goa found for me by friends, with a view to renting one while I set up a business decorating and renovating ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/main.jhtml?xml=/property/2008/09/27/pemigration127.xmlcid=0ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNH2in-nuN2k07vgsW-eqpi-KVkQfg *** Terrorists Planning Strike in Goa? - India Journal [6 hours ago] BANGALORE/THRISSUR/PANAJI - After Bangalore, Ahmedabad and Delhi, terrorists were suspected to be planning a strike in Goa, sparking an alert in the coastal ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.indiajournal.com/pages/event.php?id=4618cid=0ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNE5bEMhneQNAiUCOnxRnhbvBpZD5w *** Special Task Force to implement smoking rules in Goa - Times of India [Sep 23, 2008] PANAJI: Goa government will form a special task force to ensure implementation of new amendments in the Smoking in publicplaces Rules 2008, that are being ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa_Special_force_for_smoking_rules/articleshow/3521086.cmscid=1250022699ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNGZMV9KYKVxRUMusYP0FAHFcRM53A *** India: Sporting Win I-League Opener Against Vasco - Goal.com [9 hours ago] A late goal from Junior earned Sporting Club De Goa a victory in the opening fixture of the I-League, against Vasco SC at the Nehru Stadium in Goa. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=883205cid=1251004717ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNF7_F7YE3ue0ODCu_d2k6gxnRVYdQ *** Accumulate Sesa Goa at Rs 101-90: N Pillai - Moneycontrol.com [17 hours ago] Neppolian Pillai of Modern Shares Stock Brokers is of the view that one can accumulate Sesa Goa at Rs 101-90. Pillai told CNBC-TV18, I am very bearish on ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/news/stocks-views/accumulate-sesa-goa-at-rs-101-90-n-pillai/11/05/358427cid=1250843564ei=e3DdSOOnGZP6lQSGtIyWAQusg=AFQjCNFoGYnMeMSWIa2jQUk-kdMMmgtxEA Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites
Eddie, as I understood Dr Cornel's angry allegations, it's not about quantum of posts... but rather systemic bias. These are two different issues, and, as such, has nothing to do with the solution you're proposing below. What you say might make technical sense, but that is entirely another issue. As for myself, I don't see Dr Cornel as being on track for the reasons outlined here: [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewDiaspora/message/5855] If others feel otherwise, it is an issue which can, and should, be debated. FN PS: Sorry for attaching the entire earlier message, just so that the nuances of the argument are not lost. 2008/9/27 Eddie Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The discussion about GoaNet moderation has come as no surprise but the acrimony it has generated causes me concern. There are valid arguments on all sides, each person giving vent to their despair of what they see as requisites to improving the GoaNet service. There are no villains on the stage only Heroes and Heroines! As I see it, the discussion is basically about two ends of the spectrum. FN and the rest of the admin team is concerned about the number of members to join GoaNet and leave soon afterwards. He prefers the GoaNet digest version, posts in plain text and would like the number of contributors increased. Cornel would like to see less moderation and more messages. There is no reason why we should have to choose between one and the other. GoaNet had not changed much since its inception and is still essentially an email based service for contributors. Many other discussion lists have turned into web-based services and there are many advantages of going down that path. Now that broadband and fast internet speeds are here, the old arguments about cost are no longer valid. The main advantage would be to split the discussion list into threads and give readers the option of subscribing to all discussions or only those threads that interest them. One of the current problems is that it is impossible to find previous posts on a subject such as recommended restaurants, internet connections, recent books etc. Also, some discussions on topics like sports, employment, village nets have been moved to separate lists. There is no reason why they cannot have separate threads in GoaNet. One keyword search, say on fishing or restaurant* would bring together discussion on that topic. To provide specific examples how this would work, take a look as some Goa-related wed-based discussion lists: 1. British Expats.com. http://britishexpats.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=6773bb87d7adda768edac61914 c9ec70f=94 Discussion on topics such as Hiring a Car in Goa; Medical care in Goa; Where Do You Buy Your Diamonds in Goa 2. Holiday Truths.com. http://www.holidaytruths.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=60 Topics such as Malaria; Restaurants; Wifi 3. India Mike. http://www.indiamike.com/india/goa-f23/ Threads such as Sim/Phone cards; Motorbike Rental; Dentists in Goa. If GoaNet switches to a web-based service, readers will be able to select the threads that interest them, messages by email would be reduced, searching for information will be efficient and posting in plain text would not be compulsory And as less moderation would be required, let there be Peace! Eddie Fernandes -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org Blog: http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Tech links from South Asia: http://twitter.com/fn M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (27Sep08)
Miguel Braganza...Congrats!! You're not a Professor yet you've analysed RFPG 2021 (GT 26.11.08) like you did your thesis on it.. Miguel: Thank you To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] 'Colors' art camp
'Colors' Art Gallery from Hyderabad is organizing an art camp from the 25th - 28th September 2008 at the Taj Holiday Village, Goa. Prominent artists from all over the country will participate in the camp and create works inspired by Goa's scenic beauty and culture. The artists include: Babu Xavier, Bairu Raghuram, Chaitali Morajkar, Chippa Sudhakar, G. Subramanyam, Harshada Kerkar, J. M. S. Mani, Jyoti Bhatt, Kavita Deuskar, K. Srinivasa Chari, Laxman Aelay, Manguirish Radadhyax, Masuram Ravikanth, Pradeep Puthoor, Ramesh Gorjala, Sachin S. Jaltare, Sajid Bin Amar, Santosh Morajkar, Shyam Bharat Yadav, Shymal Mukerjee and Subodh Kerkar. The camp will be coordinated by Nirmal and Damayanti Kuhad. Goanet AE www.goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Bizarre Foods: Goa
Sure, agreed! I'd like to see African, Latino, East European and Far Eastern perspectives on Goa too. Never happens. Why? Are our minds colonised, and are we willing to go along with dominant global perspectives on these issues? Now that the US is sinking into being a Third World country, will they come to Asia, Africa and Latin America for perspectives on how to cope with underdevelopment, restructuring by the World Banks, etc? What about the perspectives of the 5 out of 6 billion people on the planet who cannot afford to be tourists outside their own countries? FN 2008/9/27 Eddie Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Frederick [FN] Noronha * Mmm...what's the name of the place? Mandrem, right! I thought the programme was problematic in other ways too. Reflects the Western tourists' perception of our paradise. FN -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org Blog: http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Tech links from South Asia: http://twitter.com/fn M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490
[Goanet] BBC E-mail: India's remote faith battleground
rubygoes saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you should see it. ** India's remote faith battleground ** The BBC's Soutik Biswas visits the area in the eastern Indian state of Orissa at the centre of the latest anti-Christian riots. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/7637087.stm ** BBC Daily E-mail ** Choose the news and sport headlines you want - when you want them, all in one daily e-mail http://www.bbc.co.uk/email ** Disclaimer ** The BBC is not responsible for the content of this e-mail, and anything written in this e-mail does not necessarily reflect the BBC's views or opinions. Please note that neither the e-mail address nor name of the sender have been verified. If you do not wish to receive such e-mails in the future or want to know more about the BBC's Email a Friend service, please read our frequently asked questions. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/4162471.stm
[Goanet] Goa and Aviation
The Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad (IIMA) held its first management development program (MDP) in Aviation Management this week. I was invited by the coordinator, Prof G. Raghuram a transportation authority, who holds the Indian Railways chair at IIMA (and who wrote a path-breaking management case on Konkan Railway Corp), to share my perpspective on Goa's aviation scene with the participants during one session. The participants numbered almost 40 and were drawn from airports, airlines and companies operating in the sector. Some international airlines were also represented. My presentation was on Indian aviation's civilian-military interface. It ended by drawing attention to the problem of implementing a two airport solution (an upgraded Dabolim civil enclave as well as a greenfield airport in Mopa) in Goa. I was glad to have an opportunity of meeting a number of interesting participants especially over a group dinner that evening. There was Frederick Joseph Vaz of NACIL who was very familiar with Goanet. He hoped Goans would get involved constructively in aviation matters. Uday Bhan Singh is the Manager of Kingfisher Airlines sales in Goa. He has been involved with Goa since 1995. Harish Kutty of Air Arabia said they have clearance to operate at Dabolim from 2009. He would like to expedite the start if possible. There was a large contingent of AAI airport directors from various places including some who had left to join privatised airports. The former appreciated the truth of my hard hitting remarks and said they were broadly applicable to the nearly 30 civil enclaves in India. One of the observers present at the instance of the co-ordinator was a participant from another IIMA MDP, Vineet Sharma, who worked in the Coast Guard in Goa and his wife his Goan. Among the IIMA faculty in the program there was Prof Sebastian Morris, an economist, who is on the recently appointed Policy Advisory Group of the Goa government. He will be in Goa in this connection on Oct 3. Meanwhile, in an informal chat afterwards, Prof Raghuram assured me that he would take up the points I made, in the Civil Aviation Ministry's committee on airline finances, of which he is a member. All in all it was a very gratifying experience for me personally. I am sure that Goa's aviation experience will now provide a lot of food for thought in national circles for years to come. It's up to the people of Goa to give it the shape required, as and when possible, for the state's benefit, in the national and global context.
[Goanet] Moderators - Goanet dated 26/9
Dear Bernice, Which specific Net group [Yahoogroups, googlegroups or otherwise] are you writing about? Currently, Frederick Noronha is supposed to be a sleeping Moderator on Goanet. So are you talking about goajourno, ilug, britos, bsg, saligao-net or any other group where Frederick is a Moderator? I am NOT disputing your opinion. I am just clarifying the reference. Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:38:31 +0530 (IST) From: Bernice Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Moderators - Goanet dated 26/9 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without prejudice, I personally think Frederick Noronha is doing a fine job as moderator. Bernice Pereira Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/
