Re: [Goanet] World does not revolve around Goa!
Gabe Menezes wrote: RESPONSE: I apologise for my indiscretion, I should not have been drawn in by the spurious posts of Mario Goveia. RESPONSE: Apologies are not necessary. You have important contributions to make here vis-a-vis current financial uncertainties instead of getting caught-up with spurious posts. Mario Goveia wrote: This is to clarify that every one of the 15 messages mentioned above were anti-Bush and without foundation, context or perspective. Some were outright falsehoods. Thus I was forced into single-handedly correcting all of them in the interests of fairness and the truth:-)) RESPONSE: Jokes aside..There is a fair amount of outright falsehoods expressed here from time to time. I dont see you single-handedly correcting all of them in the interests of fairness and the truth. Does that mean at those times truth be damned or are you plain hypocritical?? a) There is no such thing as taking our right to Free Speech too far. While most of us take free speech for granted, people in history gave their lives to ensure free speech for us, and many Goanetters live in countries where there is no free speech except when they interact on the internet. RESPONSE: You are abusing your right to Free Speech here!! b) A better question to ask, in my never humble opinion, is why there are Goanetters who spring up from time to time who question what others are interested in? If they are not interested in a topic all they have to do is ignore it. Why do they think they need to influence and control whatever it is that others want to talk about? RESPONSE: While you believe you have a right to speak-out single-handedly correcting all of them in the interests of fairness and the truth, you dont think other Goanetters have a right to express themselves about topics of interest? That's rather spurious commentary from one who just lectured the rest of us on people in history gave their lives to ensure free speech. More hypocrisy. And ofcourse you will want to respond and add to that hypocrisy. Mervyn Lobo wrote: A discussion where Obama (slightly crooked), was born should not have made it to Goanet in the first place. Once the topic is introduced, everyone has the right to participate in the discussion. RESPONSE: You have alot of rights including the right to remain silent.:-) Jokes aside your rights are listed here: http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=9 Please read carefully, there is no such thing as you state above. Nevertheless, you are free to interpret your rights as you like. Its not surprising there have been no takers for your line of reasoning. If you guys are going to go on endlessly on OFF-TOPIC posts, do not expect any explanations with your rejections. - Bosco Goanet Admin http://www.goanet.org
[Goanet] Re : BABUSH /AIRES/PARRIKAR
Dear Bonifacio, Please stop your guess work and your fanciful imagination. You dont use your children to settle political scores, and that too at the cost of your daughters status in society. A mother would dare not even think of spoiling the life of her daughter by making these allegations which you think may be just a bigger game plan to silence the heavy weights. The problem with the kith n kin of politicians is that, They think they can get away with anything and everything just because they have the right connections. . Do you think you and me will be spared or would not our families be harassed. Nothing of that sort happens with your heavy weight families. And you can see that even today Rohit is not apprehended. Do you think he will be murdered by the police? He can very well show up if he is innocent. Sex on a minor, however consensual, is rape. We dont have the riight to condemn him in the case, and going by the case history, its still loose ends. But surely he has the right to defend himself with the authorities like how Warren has done. But lets not say this is political tamasha Beny Pereira Dubai UAE Message: 1 Date: 26 Oct 2008 13:26:39 - From: Bonefacio Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] BABUSH /AIRES/PARRIKAR To: goanet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Just a guess work , is Babush a real culprit , or is it just a hype? Is he being framed for political reasons or was it a master plan by some top politicians to do away with heavy weights like Alemao and Babush ? ? Accusations against babush and alemao's kids , was this a game plan against both the ministers thru their kids ?? Strange, all this is happening at the time when elections are around , in the months to come one needs to keep a watchful eye and ears wide open like a fox. Bonefacio
[Goanet] Bahrain Goans set for Doha Gulf Goans clash
www.goa-world.com Bahrain Goans set for Doha clash TWO teams from Bahrain will participate in the Gulf Goans nine-a-side Soccer Tournament in Doha on Friday. The kingdom will be represented by the Bahrain Goans League Select squad as well as the Bahrain Canacona Boys of Goa. The one-day competition is being organised by the Goan Welfare Association of Qatar. The Select team includes Jimmy D'Costa, Mario Palha, Inacio Vales, Beta Sequeira, Hilary Sanches, Joy Corda, Vincent D'Costa, GR Crasto, Tony Fernandes, Rocky Fernandes, Godwin Pinto, Marshall Barretto, Marwyn Alfonso, and Terence Coelho. The team is sponsored by Bahrain Air, Myles High and Jalal Travel Agency. Meanwhile, the Canacona Boys is headed by former Sporting Club of Goa player Pratab Sawant. Other players are Sebby, Mairan, Leeroy, Edgar, Jaan, Jonathan, Baptist, Sanchez, Shane, Denzil, and Mark Gomes, while the team is managed and sponsored by Steven Dias. (Gulf Daily News - Bahrain) For the latest News and Business Information in the Middle East visit www.tradearabia.com Related news: Former star footballers for intra-Gulf Goan tournament - by Simon D'Silva http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/21857 Goa - the new football capital of India - by Gaspar Almeida http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/21851 http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2item_no=243830version=1template_id=49parent_id=29 http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=229247Sn=SPORIssueID=31182 http://thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?section=sports_newsmonth=september2008file=sports_news200809257362.xml www.nycq8.com http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcastbroadcastid=98547 Forwarded by Goa's Pride - http://www.goa-world.com http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans http://www.opensubscriber.com/messages/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/topic.html Konkani Amchi Mai Bhas Sogglea Goenkaranchi - hench amchem herans. For all Goans, our mother-tongue Konkani, is our pride! http://www.songs-from-goa.at/goa/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5ECJrnqPcI
[Goanet] My Money, my Power can buy everything..
My Money, my Power can buy everything.. With my money and power I could do anything. I mean anything.. you name it. I could solve your difficult problems too (off course, with high fees) Turning white into black and vice-versa in my game or hobby. I am very popular or notorious for my games. Money, I spend like water, mainly I do that to keep up my (not so good) image. But right now I am in deep Sh*t I can’t find any way out of my own family crises. My son (who is wanted by the police) been hiding since long time now. Top people, my close friends (including doctors) as far as Portugal offered to help me to hide my son with them. They can only hide but for how long? My son pleaded over the phone ‘ Dad, I want to come home, do something..’ I replied ‘ Son, not now, give us some more time, soon I will sort something out..’ To be honest, right now I have nothing on hand to sort this mess out. My money, my power can’t do anything in this case. Where is my money? Where is my wealth? Where is my pride? Where is my bigness? ..and where is my family? Someone rightly said.. Money can buy everything but not all the times. I am responsible for this.. I am responsible for my family.. I am responsible for my son Nagoilolem chodd temp posona Maim-Pai kortai Pap and Bhurgim ditai zap Jaisi Karni waisi bharni Poixe poixe poixe Poixeani tujean akho sounsar vinkto gheunk zait Punn teach poxeanim, ‘MOG’ mat vinkto gheunk kednach zaumchonam Now, after reading this, don’t feel sorry for me. You better try to clear up your mess in your own backyard Home work: Money money Money, in a richman's home Do you think all richmen are happy? [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Re : BABUSH /AIRES/PARRIKAR
Bottom line is that both Churchill Alemao Babush Monserrate have fooled Goans for decades; we knowingly allowed them to do so at the cost of destruction of Goa its Identity. They have mastered the art of offering pieces of silver to gullible voters in order to realise huge gains. I do not care whether its a game plan or not; we need to rid Goa of such MLA's. Of course there are many other MLA's also tainted, but we have to start somewhere!! Message: 1 Date: 26 Oct 2008 13:26:39 - From: Bonefacio Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] BABUSH /AIRES/PARRIKAR To: goanet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=iso-8859-1 Just a guess work , is Babush a real culprit , or is it just a hype? Is he being framed for political reasons or was it a master plan by some top politicians to do away with heavy weights like Alemao and Babush ?? ? Accusations against babush and alemao's kids , was this a game plan against both the ministers thru their kids ?? Strange, all this is happening at the time when elections are around , in the months to come one needs to keep a watchful eye and ears wide open like a fox. Bonefacio
[Goanet] For your urgent attention
Hello! Please go through the below links and find out what it means to classify mining as an industry through an ordinance by Goa Governor on October 1st 2008. http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2008/10/goacan-action-alert-on-goa-industrial.html Warmly, Seby _ Searching for weekend getaways? Try Live.com http://www.live.com/?scope=videoform=MICOAL
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1378
Just what exactly this Rina is proposing to say confounds me, to say the least. Cannot miss the irony when she talks of 'communal bias' and 'sensationalism'-two very apparent attributes she herself has been in a hurry to display on this forum. Typical of her ilk. When you cannot win an argument, indulge in some mudslinging. Sorry it cannot stick without smearing your own hands. Look at them. They carry the blood of the victims. Time for introspection Rina, instead of firing some unconvincing puerile empty salvos. Thanks Mario J. Fernandes This is the first person account of the violence and rape that a Catholic nun faced in Orissa. When you read this horrendous piece, you will realize what kind of damage a communal bias or a desire for sensationalism in the media can inflict on people. Rina Mukherji Kolkata From: Dr. John Dayal catholicunion@ gmail.com To: JohnDayal [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:01 PM Subject: Statement made to the Media by Nun from Kandhamal, Orissa John Dayal's note: While the Catholic Nun who was gang-raped in the violence in Kandhamal, Orissa on 25 August 2008 has signed this statement, which she read out at a Press Conference in New Delhi today, 24th October 2008, members of the Indian Media may recall the Supreme Court Advisory on the use of names of victims of gender violence.] _ Movies, sports news! Get your daily entertainment fix, only on live.com http://www.live.com/?scope=videoform=MICOAL
[Goanet] Headline - Hindu extremists held for deadly bombings
Dear BOSCO/VIVIANA, You have been sent this article link by rubygoes courtesy of smh.com.au Personal Message: Dear Moderator. A Goanetter 'ED-GUIRIMBOY' alerted me of the broken link for this article I sent yesterday. Any chance that you would accept a re-submission in this format? Thank you. rubygoes Hindu extremists held for deadly bombings Rama Lakshmi in New Delhi October 27, 2008 To view the entire article, click on: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/10/26/1224955853361.html Sign up for news updates from The Sydney Morning Herald newsroom emailed each morning and afternoon: http://smh.com.au/newsletters/subscription.html Visit http://smh.com.au for updated local and world news, sports results, entertainment news and reviews and the latest technology information.
Re: [Goanet] Re : BABUSH /AIRES/PARRIKAR
whether Montessori or domnhill are culprits is not the point (and please don't insult us goans by calling them heavyweights) if at all they are a burden on us goans.people like these and another called tricky pacheko should not even in the first place be our representatives, they haven't even seen the outside gates of any schools, they are people who give us nothing more than a bad reputation. They are into politics for their own benefits, they have no beliefs or morals.A personlike downhill has been in goan politics for a long time and i havent seen or heard about him doing anything positive for the state. he has changed parties and formed parties over the years with no idealogy, his only belief is if you give me a seat i will join your party and if not i will form my own party. and you know who are to blame for all this it is WE GOANS INCLUDING MYSELF --- On Tue, 28/10/08, Arwin Mesquita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Arwin Mesquita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Re : BABUSH /AIRES/PARRIKAR To: Goanet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, 28 October, 2008, 2:04 PM Bottom line is that both Churchill Alemao Babush Monserrate have fooled Goans for decades; we knowingly allowed them to do so at the cost of destruction of Goa its Identity. They have mastered the art of offering pieces of silver to gullible voters in order to realise huge gains. I do not care whether its a game plan or not; we need to rid Goa of such MLA's. Of course there are many other MLA's also tainted, but we have to start somewhere!! Message: 1 Date: 26 Oct 2008 13:26:39 - From: Bonefacio Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] BABUSH /AIRES/PARRIKAR To: goanet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=iso-8859-1 Just a guess work , is Babush a real culprit , or is it just a hype? Is he being framed for political reasons or was it a master plan by some top politicians to do away with heavy weights like Alemao and Babush ?? ? Accusations against babush and alemao's kids , was this a game plan against both the ministers thru their kids ?? Strange, all this is happening at the time when elections are around , in the months to come one needs to keep a watchful eye and ears wide open like a fox. Bonefacio Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[Goanet] Goa rape case: Anti-Rodrigues ad published in local daily
Goa rape case: Anti-Rodrigues ad published in local daily Panaji (PTI): The German rape case has spilled over into the media advertisement space with an anti-Aires Rodrigues advertisement being published in the local daily signed by 390 people. Rodrigues, who is a lawyer of the German mother, who has accused son and nephew of two Goa ministers of raping her daughter, has said that the advertisement is a handiwork of Public Works Department (PWD) Minister Churchill Alemao. Many of the signatories in the advertisement are bogus. This is a handiwork of Alemao trying to divert attention of people from the rape case, Rodrigues told reporters in Panaji this afternoon. The advertisement released in local English Daily O Herald accuses Rodrigues, who is also a social activist, of blackmailing people in the guise of activism. It has also commented on the personal life of Rodrigues accusing him of bigamy. However, Alemao, talking to PTI, refused his hand in the advertisement alleging that Rodrigues is unnecessarily roping him into the controversy. Media is unnecessarily creating the controversy. My name does not appear in the advertisement so why to accuse me? Alemao questioned. The PWD Minister also claimed that the advertisement was a spontaneous outburst against Rodrigues. Aires is unnecessarily running a vendetta against my family, he added. Rodrigues is also a convenor of Utt Goenkara, a local NGO, which has taken up crusade against state Education Minister Atanasio Monserratte. Despite Court directives not to disclose the name of victim or her parents, the advertisement also mentions the name of the German lady. The ad incidentally is in violation of the Children's Court directive which asked the media and the police to refrain from using the names of victim and her mother or any other information which could lead to identifying the victim. Rodrigues said that Chief Minister Digamber Kamat has miserably failed to control his cabinet members like Monserratte and Alemao, who are now all out to use their tactics against those fighting for justice. Alemao has been at loggerheads with Rodrigues, after the lawyer claimed that Alemao's nephew Warren had also raped the minor German girl. http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/000200810281511.htm ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] Fusion for Peace
Fusion for Peace a pic http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk15/2980201673/ Video http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0w9J355xg For next month's events etc, pl visit http://www.heritagejazz.com/upcoming.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] More Dirty Panjim Pics
More Dirty Panjim Pics Sleeping and dumping zone http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/2924407101/sizes/l/ Sleeping Zone: Dirty ‘Royal food’ fresh chicken handlers http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/2981327436/sizes/l/ Sleeping Zone: 3 Casino boats also seen in the background http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/2924407435/sizes/l/ Cooking Zone (25.10.08) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/2981327630/sizes/l/ another )same day) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/2980472537/sizes/l/ more http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] NRI briefs
Financial Mess WASHINGTON - Neel Kashkari, the man charged with launching the US government's unprecedented $700 billion bank rescue, knows a thing or two about getting complex apparatus off the ground. After all, he could be considered a former rocket scientist. Before he went to work in high finance, the former Goldman Sachs investment banker worked in research and development at TRW Inc, a contractor for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, designing parts for a space telescope. ** LONDON - Days after enforcing stricter rules for grant of business travel visa, Britain plans to further tighten immigration rules by drastically reducing the number of migrants. The proposed tougher immigration laws was announced by new immigration minister Phil Woolas and may come amid fears that the economic downturn could raise risk of unemployment. Indicating a shift in the government policy, Woolas said: “If people are being made unemployed, the question of immigration becomes extremely thorny. It’s been too easy to get into this country in the past and it’s going to get harder.” ** WASHINGTON - Ashwin Madia, a 30-year-old attorney and Iraq war veteran, is bidding to become only the third person of Indian descent to be elected to the US Congress. And the newcomer appears to have a good shot though the race is tight and the campaign has turned nasty. Madia, a Democrat, is running against Republican Erik Paulsen, who has been a state Representative for 14 years, and Independence Party candidate David Dillon in Minnesota’s 3rd District. He leads Paulsen 46 per cent to 43 in the latest poll after trailing by three points earlier. Madia’s is a typical immigrant story. His microbiologist father and physical therapist mother came to America from Mumbai with $19. “They wanted a better life for their children,” he says. He was born in Boston, but the family eventually settled in Plymouth, a suburb of Minneapolis. After attending high school there, Madia went to the University of Minnesota and the New York University School of Law. ** NEW YORK - An India-born man, who accused two New York City police officers of assaulting him, has been awarded US$ 20,000 in compensation by a federal jury, which held the officers guilty of violating his civil rights. The man had also accused the officers of racial abuse. A Brooklyn federal jury found that two police officers from the Queens are guilty of excessive force for hitting a man in the groin with a flashlight repeatedly, the Brooklyn Daily Eagle reported. Harwinder Vilkhu, 36, said the officers had grabbed him by the collar while he was sitting outside the York College Performing Arts Centre and hit him in the groin and stomach with a flashlight when he asked their names and the reason they were mistreating him.** LONDON - An Indo-Brit hair specialist accused of groping women while giving them head massages has been jailed for three years in Britain. The Reading crown court also banned Praminder Mankoo for life from giving treatment without a witness present. He will also have to sign on to the Sex Offenders' List indefinitely. Mankoo had been charged with lewd acts with his clients on Sep 14. Mankoo ran a successful clinic in Thame, Oxfordshire. The instances of his lewd acts occurred between 2003 and 2007, but three of his victims came forward only recently to nail him. ** MISSISAUGA - After a lengthy investigation, officers from the Fraud Bureau have raided three Mississauga-area warehouses, in what has been described by industry experts as the largest seizure of counterfeit goods in Canadian history. On Thursday, July 31, 2008, a series of search warrants were executed at Thamesgate Drive warehouses, resulting in the seizure of over 25,000 pieces of counterfeit merchandise. These items are estimated to have a street value of over $10,000,000. The fraudulent labels included designers such Gucci, Channel, Prada, Burberry, Juicy Couture, Coach, Dolce Gabana, Armani, Louie Vouiton, Harley Davidson and Diesel. ** LONDON - An Indian-origin landlady in Oxford has been fined 2,500 pounds because of the filthy and dangerous state of a house she was letting out to her tenants. Joginder Kaur Dhanjal at the Oxford Magistrates' Court admitted to five charges levelled against her relating to safety and hygiene at the shared house she owns in Donnington Bridge Road. The city council environmental health officers found several health and safety breaches in Dhanjal's house during a visit. Oven and surfaces in the shared kitchen were in a filthy state and officers discovered that tenants had even no access to the gas supply. ** TORONTO - With
[Goanet] What was that about Gram Sabhas again?
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:23:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] But I believe, I was a lone voice on Goanet who repeatedly said that democracy has certain established routes, and by giving Gram Sabhas a role which they are ill-equipped to handle will only undermine the cause of democracy and not restore it to its full potential. Mario responds: Au contraire, mon cherie! Not so fast! What you were proposing was that some new central government department be set up to make decisions on the ugly developments springing up across Goa, when the decisions were already being made by some existing central government department. You, from far-away Blighty, wanted to take away local control as represented by the Village Panchayats and Gram Sabhas, which you said were corrupt, when, in fact, as local activists like Wendell had told us, they were far more subject to the influence of local residents than some nameless, faceless, money-grubbing bureaucrats in some central government department. The lovely and gracious and allegedly frail Venita may not have been a danger to flies, but she must have given the human authorities some probable cause to arrest her. Let the system play out and we will soon find out what the real problem was.
Re: [Goanet] Lawsuit questions whether Barack Obama was born in the USA
Mario Goveia wrote: In the US the ONLY positions that a foreign born citizen like myself, cannot run for office is President and Vice President. WRONG. I made my case very clear and provided you the evidence. Here it is again. Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution. No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States. Mervyn himself was a third class citizen in Tanzania. Ah! In the classic McSame style... Can you provide us with some idea on how you could come up with such a desperate statement? And please don't try and blame it on the smell from the zoo again. If anything, the smell is coming from your pants being on fire. Mervyn3.0 __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
[Goanet] Goa Ministers Visit UAE
It news that our Ministers are visiting Dubai quite often. We had Joaquim Alemao visiting Dubai few days ago and two days back it was turn of Mr. Babush Monserate. Have pleasant holidays in peaceful atmosphere. Rocky
[Goanet] Goa's Goonda List
I need to ask: What kind of democracy prevails in a country that has no laws to prevent individuals who are on a police goonda list from becoming ministers? I salute the courage of the police officer who compiled the goonda list in Goa. I request JoeGoaUK to publish the Goonda List on Goanet for all to see. The Goan public needs to ask a senior upright police official in Goa to continue to update the 25 names on the Goonda List on a yearly basis. This list needs to be as publicly circulated in Goa as the FBI's Most Wanted List is in the USA. Roland.
Re: [Goanet] 'parisan propaganda' and / or 'rumour mongering'
--- On Mon, 10/27/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally, I must say that I am disappointed that Santosh lacks the intellectual honesty and humility to accept where he is wrong but would continue to flog and grind an issue until the other party gives up in exhaustion. Quite predictably, Marshall now passes another self-serving judgment against me based on bogus accusations and calumnies that he has manufactured against me in his last post in this thread. Let me just enumerate below the kinds of cheap political tactics he has used to malign me: 1. After initially falsely claiming that I had applauded some partisan writers who are not members of Goanet, now he is blaming me for not criticizing their writings. Any reasonable person would note that it is pointless to respond to writers who cannot defend themselves in this forum. It suffices for one to point out that they have a partisan bias, as I did with regard to Gurumurthy article, and as others did with regard to Gautier et al. 2. He faults me for suggesting that there are only some examples (not all) of partisan propaganda and rumor mongering on his part. I have provided examples that I happened to read. To any impartial person, it should be obvious that it is too much to expect somebody to read all his more than 30 or so recycled reports from the news media and partisan websites. 3. He denies that the bogus story of the nun can be termed as a rumor, and blames me for calling it that. 4. After using the words sick and prejudiced to possibly describe my mind, he blames me for not noting some commas that he used. 5. He lifts a statement of mine referring to Mario Goveia's observation, and falsely suggests that I was referring to Gurumurthy's article, asking me the following question, laced with innuendo: Could Santosh kindly enlighten us on the historical evidence that he saw? We too would like to be enlightened. And now he denies that he found the article credible. He would make a skilful politician indeed!!! 6. After asking me to post examples of partisan propaganda and rumor mongering on his part, he now accuses me of cherry picking because I called his bluff and provided a few examples. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] World does not revolve around Goa!
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:01:24 -0400 From: Bosco - Goanet Volunteer [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is a fair amount of outright falsehoods expressed here from time to time. I dont see you single-handedly correcting all of them in the interests of fairness and the truth. Does that mean at those times truth be damned or are you plain hypocritical?? Mario responds: Bosco, Thanks for bringing this up. As you well know, I am not the ombudsman for Goanet. If you and the other moderators see an obvious falsehood, don't you think you should flag those posts and return them for re-consideration? I have made the point repeatedly that Goanetters need not be interested in every post, analyze every post or get involved in every discussion. If a topic is not of interest to me and I happen to scan its contents, I may not even know that there is a falsehood involved. However, when it comes to the anti-American propaganda being posted by a small number of determined and persistent Goanetters, many of whom do not even live in the US yet pretend a knowledge of the US that is clearly bogus, where I clearly see the falsehoods, I am obviously inclined to post a correction. Bosco wrote: You are abusing your right to Free Speech here!! Mariuo responds: Why don't you tell your friends whose falsehoods I correct that they are abusing free speech? Even for them, I don't deny their right to post calumnies and falsehoods. I simply restrict myself to correcting their falsehoods. That's precisely how free speech is supposed to work. Free speech is not addressed by censoring it. Bosco wrote: While you believe you have a right to speak-out single-handedly correcting all of them in the interests of fairness and the truth, you dont think other Goanetters have a right to express themselves about topics of interest? Mario responds: This is a false and specious comment. As I have said above, I have never objected to anyone's right to post calumnies and falsehoods. I restrict myself to correcting them. Bosco continues: That's rather spurious commentary from one who just lectured the rest of us on people in history gave their lives to ensure free speech. More hypocrisy. And ofcourse you will want to respond and add to that hypocrisy. Mario responds: False, as I have demonstrated above because I have never denied anyone's free speech. You have built a straw man. a) You have failed to point out any spurious commentary b) You have also failed to identify any hypocrisy Bosco wrote: If you guys are going to go on endlessly on OFF-TOPIC posts, do not expect any explanations with your rejections. Mario responds: How does what any Goanetter has written lead in any logical way to a threat by a moderator like yourself to exclude an explanation for a rejection?
[Goanet] Pope suspends Indian Bishop!!??
This message is in response to Message: 1; Dated: Mon, 27 Oct 2008, from: Francis Rodrigues, under subject titled as above. What's this going on? What does the writer mean by saying - Adoption- What is this adoption all about? And why such adoption is done or undertaken? Can the writer of Goanet members through some light on this issue and questions asked. I recollect, few days back, Pope Benedict XVI had mouthful to say about Government of India's dealing with Indian Catholics!! With this, I request respectful Pope Benedict XVI to study what's actually going on in the churches of Goa under pretext of secularism. Possibly you might have to suspend almost most of ..??? Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Folk tunes
New on Music from Goa: The Indian Navy Band, with folk tunes from Western India http://www.ilike.com/artist/Music+from+Goa/ -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490
Re: [Goanet] What was that about Gram Sabhas again?
--- On Mon, 10/27/08, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The lovely and gracious and allegedly frail Venita may not have been a danger to flies, but she must have given the human authorities some probable cause to arrest her. Let the system play out and we will soon find out what the real problem was. --- My dear Mario, Your faith in the system in Goa is so touching, I almost feel like believing in US banks again. I think this post of yours when read by Goans will provide hours of light entertainment, especially to those Goans in outer Mongolia, who may ordinarily be denied good entertainment but would still be better informed than those residing in Republican USA. Now, short of me drawing a picture for you, follow the trail of incidents here. A corrupt panchayat and possibly a corrupt section of the gram sabha was instrumental in denying Venita her right to free speech. Not only at the meeting itself, but moreso they demanded she retract what she had written in a weekly column, thereby denying her the right to free speech altogether. You see, it is not beyond the realm of human nature to be corruptible, be they in political offices or village councils such as gram sabhas. Corruption and greed are endemic and all pervasive in human society. It is naive of Goans to think that Goa is made up of us and them, or the virtuous and the corrupt. Goa is made of people with conflicting interests, and at every point these divergent interests will rear their ugly head and give vent. Gram sabhas as as vulnerable to divergent interests and partisan agendas as any other political body in Goa. Selma
Re: [Goanet] World does not revolve around Goa!
Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is to clarify that every one of the 15 messages mentioned above were anti-Bush and without foundation, context or perspective. Some were outright falsehoods. Thus I was forced into single-handedly correcting all of them in the interests of fairness and the truth:-)) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:18:04 +0530 From: Frederick [FN] Noronha * Mario, you could have set up Goanet-USA or even your own blog, where such topics could be discussed to your hearts contents (and the readers' patience). While I too am guilty of the occasional off-topic post on Goanet, keeping on at it with such persistence makes things boring for me as a reader. Mario responds: Fred, a) I cannot remember a single post that I have initiated about the USA. Why would I set up Goanet-USA when the series of falsehoods I am forced to respond to are being posted on Goanet by a small cabal of determined and persistent and obviously anti-American posters? b) Regarding your boredom, I was not aware we posters are supposed to entertain you. c) Regarding reader's patience, where is it written that Goanetters are supposed to read and analyse every post? d) Where does this notion come from that, instead of ignoring a post that is not of interest, which most of us do on a daily basis, there are a few Goanetters who try to impose their will on everyone else by criticizing what other posters are obviously interested in?
Re: [Goanet] Goa Ministers Visit UAE
2008/10/28 Rocky [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It news that our Ministers are visiting Dubai quite often. We had Joaquim Alemao visiting Dubai few days ago and two days back it was turn of Mr. Babush Monserate. Have pleasant holidays in peaceful atmosphere. Rocky COMMENT: These guys were checking on their investments/deposits! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
[Goanet] Gorjecheo vostu katrun udoiat...
Amchea Bhangarachea Goyant aiz Bolatkar, Chorio Khunn kainch nuim xe zalam. Kiteak amchea pulis anik kaideank duddvanche dampnnem laglam. Hem soglem bhond korunk ekuch upai asa. Je konn Bolatkar, Chorio Khunn kortat tancheo Gorjecheo vostu katrun uddoipacheo. Tednam ki hem soglem bondd zait!! Frankie
[Goanet] Goa rape case: Anti-Rodrigues ad published in local daily
[Goanet] Goa rape case: Anti-Rodrigues ad published in local daily Thanks Avelino, There were only two papers today and yet I missed it. (no issues of other two due to Divali holiday yesterday) How could I? It was half a page add and must have cost the advertiser atlest Rs.50,000 390 names listed as signatories, most of them were from Varca, Agassaim, Orlim, Carmona,Verna and Margao. There were 5 from Davorlim and only one from Benaulim, that all maked 390. And yes, there was a mention of the Victim and her mother. It says... Why does Aires not act against the night clubs where the fourteen year old daughter of his protegee F* F* is depicting romping with older males. If this amounts to contempt of court, then the newspaper Herald should also be sued for contempt of court. They should be knowing more than banybody else. It seems newspaper now a day do anything for money. During the last elections, almost all corrupt MLAs/politicians depicted as saints on newspaper - and all this for a huge money. It was inserted in such a way, that most readers took it as news items. Subsequently, (upon enquires) it was told that it was a paid-up item [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Goenkars; Financial update.
We have seen huge gyrations in the stock markets; don't be fooled into thinking that we have seen the bottom...there is still so much muck out there. Just contemplate a house in USA sold at a depressed price of 88K two years ago then resold at 33k and the person cannot meet the payments! USA is in deep, deep pooh, now the Bank wants to get rid of it at 5K. Cheap though it be, there are no jobs to sustain one in places like Detroit, Toledo, Cincinatti and Good Years' home town. The only jobs secure are health care, established Doctors, insolvency Lawyers and the like. So hold on to your money, cash it King. Even if the market stops falling all you will rely on is diminished dividends. I would advise Goans/Indians to hold money in Govt. owned Banks...the bigger the better like State Bank of India, Bank of India, Baroda, IOB and the like. October is a bad month for markets, Nov. Dec. if we don't show good gains then stay away. Lock your money in for 1,2,3 years at the high interest rates now available, unless you need it, in any case do not lock your whole amount, keep some for emergencies. Interest rates World wide are about to be enginnered down. All those who take my advice, you owe me a beer in Margao! Take care and happy hunting, God bless. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
[Goanet] Subject: Re: World does not revolve around Goa!/Goan Tour operator
Shoo!!! Patraum Lobo, 'VholLyaan sangonakai...Lokaak Aykota... If u r ready to be a tour operator, I would be willing to run a Cyber cafe..Broadband, wireless, modemless...laptop (pardon me..at first I thought 'lap top' was the boss's secretary taking down dictation, sitting on boss's lap!! - pardon me for my stupidity) or desktop is fine. Let's see, we will need a moderator, may be we can convince 'Bosco' and rope in him as well in our (ad)venture!! What say U? Vondia MD.
Re: [Goanet] Can we do this Gandhigiri for Vanita?
Dear Goans READ THIS: .. Message: 5 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:26:37 -0700 (PDT) From: SHRIKANT BARVE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Can we do this Gandhigiri for Vanita? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Can we do this Gandhigiri for Vanita? On Friday is 'Bhaubeej'. Can we assemble at residence of Moira Sarpanch and ask Bhaubeej of Basic civil Right for Venita Coelho from the head of Moira Village? Shrikant Vinayak Barve ... Only my good friend Shrikant Barve could have the imagination to come up with this absolutely crazy idea. Only my good friend Shrikant Barve can actually organize thie action which he has proposed. Today is already Wednesday. Bhaubeej is on Friday. It would be very difficult to organize what you propose Barvebab. If it can be done fine. But If not no problem. It is understandable. But this much I have to say: Barve has gone through very dark times. Times when he did not have a paisa in his pocket. Even today, as he endeavours to work for the development of chess and sports in general in Goa, he does it on the strength of the love he has for his ideals, Not money. I have had my disagreements with him becausse of his closeness to R.S.S. outfits. But let that be. I am ready to speak up for him on one thing: He may not have millions or billions in his pocket, but he has a heart that is bigger than that of the richest billionaire in the world. I don't know whether or not he can transform his proposal into reality. It does not matter. This much I can say: Happy Diwali - Barve!! Go on fighting the evil and spread the light. Happy Diwali -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India E [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
[Goanet] Talking Photo: How to or how not conceive twins?
Talking Photo: How to or how not conceive twins? Answer http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk15/2981494085/sizes/l/ I was surprised to see people, I mean the females believe in this type of things, even now. What about you? [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Attention Goan parents: Halloween Candy Recalled
Sherwood brand Pirate's Gold Milk Chocolate coins are being recalled due to the fact that they contain Melamine, the ingredient in milk products that has caused many infant deaths in china. These candies are sold at Costco, as well as many bulk and dollar stores. Please make sure to check your children's halloween candy and DO NOT LET THEM EAT THE PIRATE COINS (you know the ones wrapped in the shiny gold foil) and please let other parents know about this! Confirmation at: http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/coins.asp
[Goanet] MY CHALLENGE TO BABUSH - are you crazy?
Frank DCruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cant believe this! THE SO CALLED EDUCATION MINISTER IN GOA DOES NOT EVEN HAVE AN SSC CERTIFICATE,? GOD HELP US ALL Mario responds: Frank, believe this! However, I hope for the sake of your general health that you, Aires, Anthony and Edward are only planning to challenge Babush from a safe distance, perhaps with the safety of the Internet between you:-)) Even God may have a hard time helping one or all of you if you challenge him in person, where even angels fear to tread:-)) Perhaps you were also not aware that Babush has a double Ph.D. in Dadagiri and Chalupanthi. And here you guys are braying about a mere SSC certificate. Who the heck needs an SSC certificate if you can figure out how to become a crorepatti several times over and have two Ph.D.s from the University of Hard Knocks without wasting time earning an SSC certificate? You don't seem to grasp that this Education Minister business is only a pass-time for Babush. His main profession is making money, preferably by being the Minister of Development. Unfortunately, that post got him into some hot soup. But Babush is a crorepati several times over. He is even richer than any self-aggrandizing gold traders on Goanet:-)) So, Babush decided to become Education Minister to educate Goans in how to become wealthy like him without wasting their time in running after some cheap SSC certificate:-)) He can now give away SSC certificates if he wanted to, fo a small fee:-)) Instead of being pleased for the opportunity to learn what is really the goal of most educated people, here you all come, all hot and flustered, nagging him about some SSC certificate:-)) You think he is bothered? I don't think so. He is laughing all the way to the bank every morning to see how much interest he has earned overnight:-)) I'll bet you most so-called educated Goanetters would trade whatever certificates, degrees etc. they have wasted their time on for a small percentage of Babush's net worth:-))
[Goanet] Laloo must be hanged...
Till date, I was all the time thinking that Raj Tkakre is responsible and guilty of what he has done recently. Nay, he is right in the recent turmoil. You would ask me why? My answer is: How can Laloo announce vacancies to be filled in Maharashtra ONLY in Bihar local dailies and not even an Ad in any local daily of Maharashtra! And when this exam was conduced in Maharashtra, Raj revolted through his gang...Raj is right and Laloo needs to be hanged. On this issue I must congratulate Raj... Raj showed his spine..none other politician showed their spine! Why? Is it a million dollar question...I don't think so!! Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Disgusting behaviour ruining Goa
Dear all aka Dears (courtesy Miguelbab) I suppose that there is a viewpoint that Goa is really benefiting from these Rape headlines. They surely go well with the Murder and :Suicide headlines and with Princess Corruption and a new Casino nooj about our little, once serene and beautiful Goa which has literally been handed over to the goons by you know who! My comments about the news-item (excerpted below) are as follows: 1: Dear Editor/Publisher of the Herald, please understand that YOU have the responsibility to ensure that NO person is slandered in your paper. First of all, it is NOT a rape case. It is an alleged rape case. If you and Aires do not know the difference between rape and alleged rape, please start a new business selling Gol Gappas. 2: If this advertisement has NOT been signed by bona fide (verified and verifiable) individuals, the Herald is a registered partner in Sniping from under the Shadows of anonymity. Shame on you Herald. For a few pieces of silver? 3: Does Aires have any proof that this advert is the is a handiwork of Churchill Alemao or that any of the signatories in the advertisement are bogus. 4: Has the Herald done its reasonable diligence that the signatories in the advertisement are not bogus? 5: The blackmailing charge against Aires, while plausible, needs to be proved. 6: Did the Herald make reasonable attempts to verify the bigamy charge before it allowed it in the advert? Don't tell me we have another Telo Mascarenhas situation here. On the other hand, the Herald could well have assisted in the slandering of Aires and his family. Why is Aires' family being punished for his perceived sins? 7: Both Aires and the Herald are disgusting entities for allowing others to identify the victim's name by way of their words. In summary: All individuals and entities who engage in violating others (be they young ladies or men), and ALL those who use the sad plight of others for personal (financial, ideological and political) gain are disgusting par excellence. just my view jc ps: I have intentionally changed the subject line. I do not wish to continue the nonsense of calling something by a definitive term while it is still alleged and not proven in court. == D'Souza, Avelino [EMAIL PROTECTED] fwd 1: Goa rape case: Anti-Rodrigues ad published in local daily 2: an anti-Aires Rodrigues advertisement being published in the local daily signed by 390 people. 3: Rodrigues has said that the advertisement is a handiwork of Public Works Department (PWD) Minister Churchill Alemao. 4: Many of the signatories in the advertisement are bogus. 5: The advertisement accuses Rodrigues of blackmailing people in the guise of activism. 6: It has also commented on the personal life of Rodrigues accusing him of bigamy. 7: Despite Court directives not to disclose the name of victim or her parents, the advertisement also mentions the name of the German lady. 8: The ad incidentally is in violation of the Children's Court directive which asked the media and the police to refrain from using the names of victim and her mother or any other information which could lead to identifying the victim.
Re: [Goanet] Are you responsible for what happened to me? (VenitaCoelho, Moira)
Dear Venita I am shocked and distressed.though not surprised I have asked for Email IDS of some Ministers and shall write to them. I admire your guts and have lit a candle for you George Menezes
[Goanet] MEGA DRAMA TO ENTHRALL GOANS
-- Samir Umarye BY SAMIR UMARYE The count down has began for the mega Marathi drama- first of it's kind in Goa- which would be packed with 225 artistes performing about 370 roles on a 6 storied revolving, moving, lifting and dangling stage. The masterpiece, herculean dream of some of the artists from Shri Vijayadurga Sanskrutik Mandal Keri Ponda has at last come true with their toilsome efforts. The mandal set up in 1991 came in lime-light when it organised 'Janata Raja' a mega drama based on the life of Shivaji Maharaj the Maratha warrior staged by famous Historian, Babasahebh Purandare. There we were just the organisers and since then we had a dream to create a masterpiece of our own and 'Sambhavami Yuge Yuge' is just a creation of our innate desires the writer of the drama Dr Narayan Desai explains. Directed by Dilip Desai 'Sambhavami Yuge Yuge', to be staged from November 8 at Goa Engineering College ground Ponda, depicts the life and message of Lord Shri Krishna. It includes the events of his birth, battle with serpent-demon Kalia, Govardhan Parvat miracle, encounter with Putna, Kansa, scenes from Mahabharata and several other episodes based on his life. The drama is full of dance and music with about 80 dancers which would enthrall the audience. The use of state-of-the-art technical inputs like sound, light, laser would further heighten the impact of the drama. To add to this there would be horses, elephants, chariots, cattles and other such things which are inseprable part of the play. Dr Desai points out, This is a record making project in the history of Marathi theater in terms of budget, physical dimensions of the stage setting as well as number of participants. Another important feature is that the whole exercise is by the Goans and is being premiered in Goa before it goes before national audience and beyond. We are planning to take the drama to other states including North India after dubbing it into other languages he disclosed. Ramayana and Mahabharat a are jewels of our scriptures with universal message. Lord Shri Krishna is not merely characters but heroes which embodies idealism and realism at philosophical plane. Dr Desai says. Eventhough the play has the same dimensions as that of 'Janata Raja' it has uniqueness of its own The Maratha King lived in modern times and had his impact on limited geographical territory. The hero of SAMBHAVAMI YUGE YUGE - Lord Krishna, as a part of our age-old civilisation, has mass appeal and influence not only in the country but the entire world: it is an universal figure Dr Desai explains. But the staging of this mega drama was not a child's play. The entire team had to burn the midnight oil, they had to undergo failures and at times the situation was not at all in their favour. The planes of organising the drama came to their mind way back in 2005 but the research took almost three years. In the mean time the production budget and the recurring cost was also redoubled. We contacted several prominent persons for guidance including Prabhakar Panshikar (Actor), Mohan Wagh (choreographer), Babasahaibh Purandare ( Historian/maker of Janata Raja), Jayantrao Salgaonkar ( Kirtankar) and several other prominent personalities, it was only when they were assured about our abilities that they helped us. Dr Desai claims. One of the hurdle was that of choosing a name and for that the committee chose a novel method. As a means of promoting participatory spirit, organisers appealed to people to suggest a title for the mega-drama. There was good response. The title was suggested by Shri. Prasad Tukaram Sawant, who was rewarded with a certificate and cash award in a public function. This mega structure would cover an area of about 17000 sq. mts.The stage will have five different levels starting from the ground, and drama will unfold on all these levels. On the top of these level there would be a huge statue of lord Krishna. The distance between the stage and the audience is around 60 mts. and the seating area will accommodate 6500 people. There will be space for smooth movement of people inside the stands and for parking of vehicles including buses, cars and two-wheelers outside Architect Rajeev Desai told. Goans are known for their artistic talent, and at times they have to leave the state to make a career.Young Goans would certainly gain confidence from this exercise and might venture for a better projects in the state Director, Dilip Desai hopes. The role of honour in staging this mega drama goes to all the committee members but the real persons behind the scene include the Stage Designer, Architect Rajeev Desai, Site Preparation incharge, Abhijit Sadhale, Setting Design and Production incharge, Dayanand Bhagat; Costume Design incharge, Digambar Singbal; Choreographer, Mayur Vaidya; Music Director, Ashok Patki; Light Design, Satish Gauns; Vijayadurga Saunskrutik Mandal President, Arun Desai. Goans are a drama lovers, they love and appreciate
[Goanet] DISMANTLING DEMOCRACY - COMMENTS
DISMANTLING DEMOCRACY In early 1979, I went to Delhi and called on President Reddy first. He was always very polite and pleasant. We Governors looked forward to meeting him. The President mentioned to me that I was doing very useful work and he felt very happy about the way I was handling my State. The Home Minister showed similar appreciation when I met him. The next day I went to meet the Prime Minister, hoping to hear something similar. To my consternation, he pulled out a paper and started reading it. It was a complaint against me to my lady Chief Minister of Goa. The Prime Minister read it:- a); b); c); d); e); f). A rural medical officer was the subject of a letter addressed to the Lt. Governor by Smt. Mrinal Gore, a political leader. The Chief Minister complained that the Lt. Governor instead of suggesting suitable action against the officer for ignoring Govt. orders and seeking to bring political pressure, encouraged the officer to continue to ignore Govt. orders. I told the Prime Minister that this doctor had never met me. Nor had I written to him. Then when could I have encouraged this doctor to disobey his Chief Minister's orders? I fully knew the case and the truth was that I had been given approval by my Chief Minister to take action against him for disobeying his orders. I did this merely to support my Chief Minister. The Chief Minister was unable to take any action because she knew she was in the wrong. This doctor was recruited for a specialist appointment. He could not, therefore, be transferred to a non-specialist job, just like an ENT doctor could not be posted in a vacancy of T.B. doctor. Not knowing the full facts, I first gave her my approval for disciplinary action against the doctor. Later I asked for full records and found that the facts sent to me by my Chief Minister to obtain my approval for disciplinary action against the doctor were incomplete. He was a specialist and, therefore, could be transferred only in a similar vacancy and not anywhere were the Chief Minister desired. After examination of the facts I advised her not to pursue the transfer of this doctor as he would, if he went to a Court, win the case. The Chief Minister took no notice of my advice and made it a personal prestige case. However, I never withdrew my wrongly given sanction to my Chief Minister. Regarding Mrs. Gore, she was in Goa to address a political meeting and case to call on me. I do not even remember if she discussed this case with me. I assured the Prime Minister that I never came under any political pressure to give my decisions. It was a case of legal as well as moral injustice to this doctor and the Chief Minister was clearly wrong. But instead of listening to me she ran to Delhi to poison the ears of the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister now turned the next page of his file and read the next charge. I sat in front of him like an accused wrongly involved in a murder case. COMMENTS: This, my dear Goans, in not an abstract from a book of fiction. This, my dear Goans, are the pages 146, 150, 151 of the First Edition of the book by Col. Pratap Singh Gill, Ex- Governor of Goa, published in 1984 by Lancer International - Post Bag No. 2, New Delhi - 110017, subsequently composed and printed in India by Lohia Composing Agency and Sunil Printers, 1067, New Delhi 110 028 - Published by Bharat Verma. The Ex-Governor is talking of Shri. Morarji Desai, the then Prime Minster of India during the Janata Party's rule. The Ex-Governor is talking about Mrs. Shashikala Kakodkar, the then Chief Minster of Goa. Mrs. Mrinal Gore was the MP from Maharashtra. And the insubordinate doctor that the Ex-Governor Pratap Singh Gill is talking about is none other than Dr. N.S. Dumo, retired State Nutrition Officer, 'WHO' trained, who is still without his full retirement benefits, and who stood-up to face the rot in the Goa's Health Department, running from pillar to post to get justice which remains denied to him to this date. During the recent extravaganza that took place in the Goa Legislative Assembly in the manner of the hearings by various Ad-Hoc Committees seemingly to solve a plethora of problems facing Goa and Goans, I have deposed in front of many such committees. But I have put forward the case of injustice to Dr. N.S. Dumo, during my deposition under the Ad-Hoc Committee on Vigilance, Home Police chaired by Shri. Manohar Parrikar, leader of the Opposition, as a clear case of mis-representation of the 'Official Recruitment Rules' framed under the proviso to Article 309 of the Constitution of India, thereby allowing non-qualifying government considered blue-eyed boys to usurp the upgradations even to the extent of occupying the post of the Directors of Health Services, Government of Goa undeservedly. Shri. Manohar Parrikar has handed the case folder to the Director of Vigilance Shri. Jha who is supposed to look into the matter but has yet failed to do so. Whereas Dr. N.S. Dumo is yet to
[Goanet] Halloween Party - Nairobi, Kenya
Dear Members and Friends As requested -For and on behalf of the Goan Institute- see attachhed flyers for details re: Hallowen Party Saturday 1st Nov. 2008 Come join the fun!! and get spooked!! Joyce- GWS SPOOKS SAINTS Halloween is in the air, Spooky things are everywhere Halloween Spook-tacular THRILLER OF A NIGHT Join us if you Dare for a Halloween Scare with Saintly twist! Saturday 1st November, 2008 @ 8.00pm onwards The Goan Institute Dress COde: Naughty or Nice Lots of Prizes to be won Best dressed Adult Child Adults: 300/= Children Under 12: 150/= Children Under 5 Years FREE Get your Tickets from The Goan Institute, Juja Road, Pangani or Call 0722 449 871, 0720 607 212 Cash bar snacks on sale
Re: [Goanet] Laloo must be hanged...
2008/10/28 Dr. U. G. Barad [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] How can Laloo announce vacancies to be filled in Maharashtra ONLY in Bihar local dailies and not even an Ad in any local daily of Maharashtra! And when this exam was conduced in Maharashtra, Raj revolted through his gang...Raj is right [2] On this issue I must congratulate Raj... Raj showed his spine..none other politician showed their spine! jc's response: I agree with Barad. Raj is right and Laloo (if infact he is responsible for this) is wrong. Laloo must have learned this art from Bandodkar and his MGP. They did the very same thing in Goa. Advertisement for local Goa jobs were placed in newspapers in Bombay, Delhi and Cochin a month before the last day of application for the jobs. They were placed in the Navhind Times, a day before the last day for application. (Heraldo did not get any gorrment ads) Does this explain How Goans got displaced from Goa and How so many ill-qualified and clueless bhaille came to Lord over Goans? I have never seen a bhaillo anywhere in the world directly come to right away boss over even lesser qualified gaumcars. Thank You MGP (now sometimes Congress sometimes BJP and vice-versa) for what you did to Goa. You make those dufus and negligent Freedom Fighters look brilliant. jc
Re: [Goanet] Laloo must be hanged...
This is a recurrent claim by those who would like to justify regional chauvinism. In Goa too, this belief was rampant. Including, ironically, during the anti-deputationist stir in the 1960s, when the Maharashtrians were seen as The Other. If true, it probably has more to do with corruption, rather than some regional conspiracy! (Given the multiplicity of regional conspiracies, don't they cancel each other out? Or does everyone just like to live hundreds of kilometres away from home, while giving their jobs to people from other states?) Anyway, I'm curious where you got this piece of information from, Dr Barad. FN 2008/10/28 Dr. U. G. Barad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Till date, I was all the time thinking that Raj Tkakre is responsible and guilty of what he has done recently. Nay, he is right in the recent turmoil. You would ask me why? My answer is: How can Laloo announce vacancies to be filled in Maharashtra ONLY in Bihar local dailies and not even an Ad in any local daily of Maharashtra! And when this exam was conduced in Maharashtra, Raj revolted through his gang...Raj is right and Laloo needs to be hanged. On this issue I must congratulate Raj... Raj showed his spine..none other politician showed their spine! Why? Is it a million dollar question...I don't think so!! Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490
[Goanet] Daily Grook #261
DAILY GROOK #261 _ DOUR HOUR _ by Francis Rodrigues dr. jekyll's ball preserved his bride, 'twas known to all, as formaldehyde! __ puns word-play of all kinds, if you read between the lines! _ http://2008goanconvention.com/nostalgia.php _
[Goanet] Let all the anger show in Pale bye-elections
Let us get back at least 2.5% of Goa ( 1 out of 40 seats ) by fighting and winning Pale bye-elections which is to be held on November 29 th. It is just around the corner. Teach a lesson to both BJP and Congress. samir
[Goanet] If you go a village where snakes are eaten, eat the middle part.
Divodd khaunchea gavant gelear, modhlo kuddko If you go a village where snakes are eaten, eat the middle part. Dukllant odhik mhuino In times of famine, the year has thirteen months (hard times last an eternity) How would you interprete the first one? Intriguing ... For more 'Old Konkani sayings' http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34190402370 This is from a forthcoming book by Goanetter Valmiki Faleiro. FN -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490
[Goanet] DNA - India - US rally blasts anti-Christian attacks in India - Daily News Analysis
THANKS PHILADELPHIA. http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1201879 rubygoes
[Goanet] Goa news for October 29, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Bombay HC issues notice to Goa police - Hindustan Times [Oct 24, 2008] PTI Taking suo-moto cognisance of the German minor rape case, the Bombay High Court onFriday issued a notice to the Goa police seeking details into the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/redir.aspx?ID=c0ad1293-76ee-4782-b377-a97bbca658e3cid=1261058726ei=eqAHSYOiNoH8gwOKzumvAwusg=AFQjCNH_tCg6Y9Qmh6LYhi4aHoPmEJ-xtg *** Goa rape case: Anti-Rodrigues ad published in local daily - Hindu [13 hours ago] Rodrigues, who is a lawyer of the German mother, who has accused son and nephew of two Goa ministers of raping her daughter, has said that the advertisement ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/000200810281511.htmcid=1263347497ei=eqAHSYOiNoH8gwOKzumvAwusg=AFQjCNGNLpqQVocmwGavwTYtIvxvANB0Bg *** Goa assault: Cops say 6 accused confess crime - Times of India [Oct 24, 2008] 25 Oct 2008, 0030 hrs IST, PTI PANAJI: Goa police claimed tohave cracked a case of assault on social activist Aires Rodrigues with the confession of six ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goa_assault_Cops_say_6_accused_confess_crime/articleshow/3638469.cmscid=1262150712ei=eqAHSYOiNoH8gwOKzumvAwusg=AFQjCNEmramIwFvVSJrsKHNtDk0SvdR86A *** No plans to hand over German rape case to CBI: Goa govt - Times of India [Oct 26, 2008] 26 Oct 2008, 1517 hrs IST, PTI PANAJI: Goa Government on Sunday said it had not given any thought to handing over the case of the alleged rape of a German ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/German_girl_rape_No_CBI_probe/articleshow/3642816.cmscid=1262751728ei=eqAHSYOiNoH8gwOKzumvAwusg=AFQjCNGjmO7JZcgcyYx7RAIhAlpU0fLjhg *** Bombay HC: Directs Goa AG to give all copies of investigation paper - Indlaw.com [Oct 27, 2008] The Bombay High Courts Goa bench directed state Advocate General Subodh Kantak to give copies of the investigation papers, regarding the sexual assault on ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.indlawnews.com/newsdisplay.aspx?0ab2d7e5-b330-432e-a76d-ca2e1a4b9439cid=1263611951ei=eqAHSYOiNoH8gwOKzumvAwusg=AFQjCNEE0KcjQQavVD0GeYh9vkiBXcwqeg *** No law and order left in state: Goa PWD ministe - Merinews [Oct 27, 2008] Goa PWD minister Churchill Alemao told the media person that due to police apathy there is no law and order left in the state. Opponents of the minister ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=145569cid=1263623005ei=eqAHSYOiNoH8gwOKzumvAwusg=AFQjCNGZzl7SH4iXyyZ7uZBkh0uEmIu8ig *** Holiday bonanza for Goa govt employees - Times of India [Oct 25, 2008] ... Saturday; feast of St Francis Xavier (December 3), Thursday; Goa Liberation Day (December 19), Saturday; and Christmas (December 25), Friday. http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Holiday_bonanza_for_Goa_govt_employees/articleshow/3641718.cmscid=0ei=eqAHSYOiNoH8gwOKzumvAwusg=AFQjCNGsiQkt1rUGE5vkpx3ig07Jco0jCw *** Goa group protests detention of writer-activist - SINDH TODAY [Oct 27, 2008] Panaji, Oct 27 (IANS) The Goa Bachao Abhiyaan (GBA - Save Goa Campaign), fighting against unplanned and rampant construction of mega projects in Goa - has ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.sindhtoday.net/entertainment/31579.htmcid=1263278367ei=eqAHSYOiNoH8gwOKzumvAwusg=AFQjCNHPi7HOnt-lwNJZRIFDTHgU5hhGwg *** Case against Fiona to be heard tomorrow - Press Trust of India [11 hours ago] Goa's Director of Child and Women Development will take the final decision tomorrow on the application filed by a local NGO against Fiona. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ptinews.com/pti%5Cptisite.nsf/0/9F22578119097E16652574F0004182F2?OpenDocumentcid=1263658599ei=eqAHSYOiNoH8gwOKzumvAwusg=AFQjCNGyP3kRTqq6UM9Jo9kvRh54-mXNVQ *** Flat owners handicapped by law lacuna - Times of India [21 minutes ago] PANAJI: Unlike other states, Goa does not have a law governing the duties of builders and safeguarding the rights of the owners of flats and apartments. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Flat_owners_handicapped_by_law_lacuna/articleshow/3649636.cmscid=0ei=eqAHSYOiNoH8gwOKzumvAwusg=AFQjCNFTArobljih7r4jl-maiuWeswpINw Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] World does not revolve around Goa!
Bosco - Goanet Volunteer wrote: Mervyn Lobo wrote: A discussion where Obama (slightly crooked), was born should not have made it to Goanet in the first place. Once the topic is introduced, everyone has the right to participate in the discussion. RESPONSE: You have alot of rights including the right to remain silent.:-) Jokes aside your rights are listed here: http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=9 Bosco, For the first time in many moons, I clicked on the above link to take a look at the rules and regulations. On the very first page, there is a, DO NOT ENGAGE IN PERSONAL ATTACKS rule. If the moderators strictly enforced this rule, 90% of the junk posts here would be eliminated. Let me give you an example. A few days ago, I posted a simple explanation showing why/how there are two classes of US citizens. The post was simple to read and hard to prove wrong by argument or evidence. The reply to that post, by one Mario Goviea, and 'approved' by the moderators, centred on the following: Mervyn himself was a third class citizen in Tanzania. Mario Goviea did not try to prove my post, about US citizens, to be false or erroneous. All he did was engage in a personal attack. Goanet would be much more interesting to read if ALL personal attacks were immediately 'rejected' by the moderators. The explanation, DO NOT ENGAGE IN PERSONAL ATTACKS, would be a sufficient wake up call to the habitual offender(s?) and those who inadvertently use it. Best of all, the quality of posts would go up dramatically as every reader here knows that people resort to personal attacks only when they have a losing argument or a lost one. Mervyn3.0 __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (29Oct08)
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Re: [Goanet] World does not revolve around Goa!
Mario Goveia wrote: As you well know, I am not the ombudsman for Goanet. If you and the other moderators see an obvious falsehood, don't you think you should flag those posts and return them for re-consideration? RESPONSE: NO! I have made the point repeatedly that Goanetters need not be interested in every post, analyze every post or get involved in every discussion. RESPONSE: Follow your own advice. As I have said above, I have never objected to anyone's right to post calumnies and falsehoods. RESPONSE: Mario also said above: I have made the point repeatedly that Goanetters need not be interested in every post, analyze every post or get involved in every discussion. and later on below: False, as I have demonstrated above because I have never denied anyone's free speech. - What exactly is Mario saying?? How does what any Goanetter has written lead in any logical way to a threat by a moderator like yourself to exclude an explanation for a rejection? RESPONSE: This is not a threat. Just telling you in PLAIN English what is likely to happen. - Bosco Goanet Admin
Re: [Goanet] World does not revolve around Goa!
Mervyn Lobo wrote: For the first time in many moons, I clicked on the above link to take a look at the rules and regulations. On the very first page, there is a, DO NOT ENGAGE IN PERSONAL ATTACKS rule. If the moderators strictly enforced this rule, 90% of the junk posts here would be eliminated. RESPONSE: Do your part and the moderators will do their part. Dont be a part of the 90% because you think others are being part of the 90%. A few days ago, I posted a simple explanation showing why/how there are two classes of US citizens. The post was simple to read and hard to prove wrong by argument or evidence. The reply to that post, by one Mario Goviea, and 'approved' by the moderators, centred on the following: Mervyn himself was a third class citizen in Tanzania. Mario Goviea did not try to prove my post, about US citizens, to be false or erroneous. All he did was engage in a personal attack. RESPONSE: Experts (not me) will tell you, that the impersonal nature of communicating by email sometimes lead us to understand something not what the author intended to say. If you are claiming to be a recipient of a personal attack in the above example, it is more than likely you have indulged in similar commentary in a similar vein at somebody else or possibly Mario too. All we need now is for Mario to list his perceived personal attacks and we have another unending thread between the same individuals, again. Let me take this opportunity to familiarize you and others with another Goanet Rule: If you face a problem with another member, or their postings, please bring your grievance to the Goanet Administration rather than to the list. Goanet Admin will deal with the offending poster as we have in the past. I'm sure you still hear from some of them. - Bosco Goanet Admin http://www.goanet.org
[Goanet] Kanyadan: A Finnacial help to daughter's marriage
Kanyadan (Rs.15,000) Scheme: A financial assistance of Rs.15,000 given to the economically weaker section of the society for their daughter’s marriage. (it seems, the parents can apply for this scheme before or after the marriage). Who is eligible? - A Goan origin or - A resident of Goa for last 15 years - Whose monthly income is less than Rs.8,333 or les than Rs.1,00,001/year Document required: - Prescribe form duly filled in - Income Certificate - Residence Certificate - Ration card copy (attested) - Daughter’s marriage certificate (certified, if any) - An affidavit on Rs.10 stamp paper. Pl contact Directorate of Woman and Child Development 2nd Floor Shanta Building St. Inez Please also pass this one to anyone who might be in need of financial help This scheme is likely to be misused by Biharis, UPs etc etc who are here in Goa for more than 15 years. Although they live here, half of their family (mainly females) lives in their native places and they only come here to take advantage of various govt. scheme including free medical treatments. They run here Belpuri business etc and back home they buy new flats, cars etc and give it on rent . However, all the family members are included in the ration cards as well as election card in Goa. I am sure they have ration cards and election cards in their native places too. And the real Goan who needs help genuinely never get help, partly because he/she is not aware of the various schemes of the Goa government.. Hence the above request. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] BHAVARTACHIM FULAM -poem
BHAVARTACHIM FULAM Bor: Basilio Magno (Spain) Koslo zait ho lott! Khoim veta ho lok? Mhojea monant zalo ho vichar. Kristanv, Parsi, Hindu, heri zati, Az amxhe igorjechea darar! Ojeap hem nhoim? Hanv gelom thoim, Topasunk he zomatichem karan; Thoddeanch uttramni, Hi tanchi kanni, Boroitam mhojea bhavarti penan. Hem tem Marikin, Punn tem ek beatin! Ha, to Paulu. Tor hem kitem! Igorjent galun dimbi? Deva, milagr tuji. Sang Paulu, hem ghoddlem koxem? Paulun zabab kelo: Zuzlom hanv ekoddo, Toddunk sankoll khotea noxibachi, Upai nastanam. Tednam Sangtoch konnem mhakam Podvi Saibinichi, hi angvonn evjili. To konn topivalo? Ek Parsi zaunk zavo. Ha, to girest shett Taraporwalla; Tor sang shetti, Kosli goroz tuka poddli, Eun mellunk he amche Maulela? Piddevont mhoji dhuv, Tika moddle zaite duddu, Punn voizam laguim kurar zali nam; Maulek angvonn keli, Dhuv mhoji bori zali, Ailam diunk tumche Maulek argam. Sitabai Devi. Kitem! Tum hea loka modem? Gheun tujim sobit fulam ani vati? Polaxint tum jietai, Kitench falt asonai, Tori devull sanddun he igorjent aili? Oi, tinnem mhunnlem, Korunk ek pratnnem Sukhak, tem mhaka unnem zalam; Ghoddla ghat visvaxi, Kornni mhojea ghovachi. Taka borea rostear haddunk magtam. Konn tambdde topiecho to? Ha, Mohamed ghoswallo! Sang Mohamed, tum he Maulek volkotai? Oi, ti Mauli podvedar, Tinnem kela mhaka salvar. Khoxechea nadan Mohmedan dili govai. Hanven adarunk nasleli Krim mhojer thapleli, Prizanv bhoglem hanven don vorsam. Konnem mhaka sanglem, He Maulek korunk magnnem; Kirmidor kumsar zaun, soddoilo mhakam. Ha, to mhoje volkicho. Punn oslo jeit tacho? Taka naslem ek kazak nesoncheak. Tor sang, hanvem mhunnlem, Noxib koxem ugoddlem? Perpet Sukur Maien lailo pottak. Aikon mhojim novenam. Sirvis dili mhakam; Hanv visorchonam tichi podvi, adar. Bekar aslom mhunn. Okol geleli sanddun, Punn dusri mevli, faleam amchem kazar. Tor hi konn Madam? Ha, ti bai Mariam! Dhoni laka-lakham rupianchi. Ti novenam korta? Tor kitem zai tika? Aikomea sobit Mariam-achi kanni. Nouro mhaka zai to, Mhojea monant asa toslo, Girest baiek nhoi sompem mellonk. Churchure mhaka disle, Polletokuch tiche dolle; Mhojem mon lozta tumkam sangonk. Ani hanv ek Kristanv, Ritem kaliz, ritim bolsam; Kitlim asa Deva mhaka urgent magnnim. Porke zaticho lok, Gheun Maie tuji ollok, Zoddlim tannim tuje kurpechim dennim. Puro. Atam vel zalo, Dusrem noven eupacho. Bhavartan hanvui Novenam suru kortam. Magonk pottlo duddvamcho? Mog sobit bai Mariam-acho? Bhogos mhaka! To gutt hanv ugttainam. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Goanet] Letters to the Editor (Moira Outrage)
Dear All, Please see my letter to Herald . *Subject: Moira Outrage* http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=11782cid=13 Moira outrage Arwin Mesquita, Abu Dhabi I am outraged at the recent harassment of Venita Coelho at the Moira Gram Sabha by the Sarpanch, the anti-socials and the police, who unlawfully detained her for three hours at the police station. Why did the Sarpanch not produce the electoral roll to confirm Venita's claim that she actually was a registered voter? This is a gross violation of democratic norms, and we need answers from the Sarpanch and the police -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/
Re: [Goanet] Goa rape case: Anti-Rodrigues ad published in local daily
I THINK THE SO CALLED 390 SIGNATORIES ARE TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE TWO MINISTERS SONS ACTIONS BY POINTING OUT TO THE 14 YRS OLD GERMANS GIRL BEHAVIOUR WHICH IN MY OPINION IS ENTIRELY WRONG, IM SURE IF IT WAS ONE OF THEIR DAUGHTERS AT THE RECEIVING END THEN THINGS WOULD BE DIFFERENT. TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A WRIGHT AND YOU CANNOT JUSTIFY YOUR WRONG DOINGS BY POINTING TO ANOTHERS MISTAKE --- On Tue, 28/10/08, JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Goa rape case: Anti-Rodrigues ad published in local daily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, 28 October, 2008, 6:46 PM [Goanet] Goa rape case: Anti-Rodrigues ad published in local daily Thanks Avelino, There were only two papers today and yet I missed it. (no issues of other two due to Divali holiday yesterday) How could I? It was half a page add and must have cost the advertiser atlest Rs.50,000 390 names listed as signatories, most of them were from Varca, Agassaim, Orlim, Carmona,Verna and Margao. There were 5 from Davorlim and only one from Benaulim, that all maked 390. And yes, there was a mention of the Victim and her mother. It says... Why does Aires not act against the night clubs where the fourteen year old daughter of his protegee F* F* is depicting romping with older males. If this amounts to contempt of court, then the newspaper Herald should also be sued for contempt of court. They should be knowing more than banybody else. It seems newspaper now a day do anything for money. During the last elections, almost all corrupt MLAs/politicians depicted as saints on newspaper - and all this for a huge money. It was inserted in such a way, that most readers took it as news items. Subsequently, (upon enquires) it was told that it was a paid-up item [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[Goanet] Ref: BJP - Paranoia or Phobia, Goan Christian Community in a Dilemma
Ref: BJP - Paranoia or Phobia, Goan Christian Community in a Dilemma A lot has been said and seen of the Communal BJP, the Goan Christian community is caught in a dilemma, supported and endorsed by it's clergy, have alienated the BJP right from the beginning and rightly so, for it's, communal policies in totality, every BJP member is looked at as an omnipotent demi-Narkasur, and the anguish over the ghastly recent happenings in the North and South have not helped in any way but in fact only amplified the fears further and castigated the BJP for tacitly endorsing what transpired there. The BJP has been a passive bystanders to the cold-blooded bartering and coercive tactics of their allies in states where the BJP is at the helm of affairs and the minority community their bete noire, the reassuring platitudes of Advani was a cynical move to boost the plummeting support of the minority community. Till BJP came to power there was no Hindu-Christian issue, both communities lived in peace and harmony, but with the advent of BJP, the Saffron brigade, the Bajrangdal and the VHP got a short of aphrodisiac and started showing their newly attained potency with a number of anti social moves which only grew in intensity and frequency and now it's turning into a monster. Mr. Monohar Parrikar in all his simplicity, was not difficult to see how pro Hindu and anti Christian he was during his tenure as CM, his partly good governance was undone by his phalanx communalism, so what choice does the Goan Christian Community have ? With the fall of the MGP, the then regional party, the Congress came into power, and like minded Goans and more so the Christian Community heaved a sigh thinking a central party would do wonders for Goa and Goans and with Christians as fore runners in the Party, the minority community stood mouth watering in anticipation of good governance and good fortunes, The D'Souza's, The Faliero's, The Sardinha's, The Cardozo's The Alemao's, The Cruz's, The Fernandes's, The Pacheco's and of courses The Monserrate's and a lot more of them, kept on coming election after election, did any thing change ? The watered mouths got dried up, the heat got unbearable, tempers flayed and now goons are let loose on social activists and on gram sabhas, retired old men and old ladies are attacked in their homes and put in lock ups, tourists raped and murdered, corruption at it's peak, the once susegad Goans are forced on the streets, Is this what we expected from the Congress ? Is this what we want in the near future ? So what choice does the Goan Christian Community have ? I who personally lambasted the Congress Nominee at the last election, and did not allow him to even enter my residence, had infact asked him to first sort out the land scam issue in our area where he was involved, before he entered my house, voted and convinced others to vote for the same Congress because we did not want BJP at any cost, thinking, the lesser evil was the better evil Now like me a lot are wondering, was it the right decision ? Spare the rod and spoil the child that's exactly what we did, how long can Goan Christians carry this burden ? More appropriately, can Goa and Goan Christians sustain this burden ? We have little time but a lot to ponder, don't we ? To Goa With Love Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
