[Goanet] Talking Photos: Yesterdays pics

2009-02-17 Thread JoeGoaUk


Talking Photos: Yesterdays pics

Now, this is at nite (as one of my regulars)

Free for all sleeping zone
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/3286538238/



Those of you who feel pity for them, they could offer their verandas or  bolcao 
or backyard to sleep.

Alternately, be willing to pay Rs.60 per person per night to a local guest 
house in Panjim itself.

I wonder, what excuse we will get in the cases like this one..

Can some one  ‘linboi’ this ‘agut’to’?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/3288324446/


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[Goanet] What happened to the Great Goan Poie?

2009-02-17 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar

To Goanet -

Have the poders been using Fair & Lovely to season
the poie?  It has certainly become fairer but not
lovelier.  To sample the authentic brown wheaty 
poie, you have to now look to the small villages
away from the bigger urban centres.  I was in
Parsem early morning today and got to sample
a superb poie, straight as well as dunked in chao.
Ah, the pleasures of amchem Goem ! (alas, now
quickly becoming ghatified.)

Warm regards,


r


[Goanet] Laid-Off Foreigners Flee as Dubai Spirals Down - NYTimes.com

2009-02-17 Thread Ruby Goes


Hi Goanetters,
 

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/12/world/middleeast/12dubai.html?pagewanted=1
&em

Belated. Sorry.
Please read.
rubygoes




[Goanet] The Other Pinto

2009-02-17 Thread Roland Francis
See the 'other' Pinto on my blog and guess which Goan village she comes from.

Hint: Father's Goan, mother's a Rajput ex-royal.

-- 
Roland Francis
http://roland-torontogoan.blogspot.com
+1 (416) 453.3371


[Goanet] PBC Felicitates Custodio Araujo

2009-02-17 Thread Sandeep Heble
PBC Felicitates Custodio Araujo

Photographs at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35353...@n07/sets/72157614023286112/

or at http://tinyurl.com/ddbpug

The Goan Badminton fraternity who had gathered on Sunday during the
Major Ranking Badminton Tournament Finals paid rich flowering tributes
to Shri Custodio Araujo for his momentous services and unstinting
support to the cause of Badminton in the State. Chief Guest Bosco
George, North Goa SP, felicitated Mr. Araujo in the presence of his
wife and son Joy in a befitting manner by presenting him with a
Felicitation plaque, amidst a thunderous applause from Badminton
players, friends and guests who were present at the felicitation
function organized by the Panjim Badminton Club(PBC).

It was an emotional moment for Badminton lovers as Mr. Araujo has
undoubtedly been one of the sport's most inspirational figures with a
contribution that will draw few parallels in Goa. He was instrumental
in founding PBC and has been at the forefront in organizing various
tournaments, coaching camps and other activities since its inception 7
years back. He was a member of the Senior Nationals organizing
Committee and played a prominent role in generating funds for the GBA.
An emotional Araujo while thanking the PBC for this noble gesture
reiterated his commitment to serve Badminton in the years to follow.

Yours sincerely

Sandeep Heble
Joint Secretary, PBC


[Goanet] Goa news for February 18, 2009

2009-02-17 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** I-League Round-Up: Snored In Mumbai, Entertained In Goa And
Kolkata - Goal.com
[19 hours ago]  You have Dempo SC, East Bengal, Chirag United,
Sporting Clube De Goa and Mohammedan Sporting. Not all amongst
these won their respective gamesbut certainly ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/0-0&fd=R&url=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/1064/i-league/2009/02/17/1113102/i-league-round-up-snored-in-mumbai-entertained-in-goa-and-kolkat&cid=1304206882&ei=ilabSY-FNuSpmQfc4aGmAw&usg=AFQjCNG-lRDQ6TrKdHudvNWr6uYv23UQZQ

*** Floats new in carnival celebrations - Times of India
[22 hours ago]  PANAJI: The King Momo led float parade has
become synonymous with Goa's carnival, but it was not always so.
Though carnival was celebrated in Goa even ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/8-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Floats-new-in-carnival-celebrations/articleshow/4139892.cms&cid=1304740844&ei=ilabSY-FNuSpmQfc4aGmAw&usg=AFQjCNFV5WgC92m6yFB89vGHKrCHmYYR9A

*** TN scores over Goa - Hindu
[Feb 15, 2009]  VISAKHAPATNAM: Tamil Nadusurvived some anxious
moments before Goa lost the pace in the closing stages to lose
by 20 runs in a round-robin match of the KS ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/7-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/2009/02/16/stories/2009021659301800.htm&cid=1305024220&ei=ilabSY-FNuSpmQfc4aGmAw&usg=AFQjCNEdN83J4nxdo6f7wUaCt5DNMOrxBg

*** Goa police arrests youth in Britisher rape case - Zee News
[8 hours ago]  Panaji, Feb 17: Over a year after a British
woman was raped in Goa, police have today arrested a youth in
the connection. Panajipolice arrested 26-year-old ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-0&fd=R&url=http://www.zeenews.com/states/2009-02-17/508344news.html&cid=1305289881&ei=ilabSY-FNuSpmQfc4aGmAw&usg=AFQjCNH_u_DSNqbTtDMMO6SwUKVxIZQJlQ

*** Scarlett\'s Family Pays Tribute One Year On - Sky News
[9 minutes ago]  Scarlett Keeling's body was found on Anjuna
Beach in Goa on February 18 last year after the 15-year-old was
left in the care of a 25-year-old tour guide ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Scarlett-Keeling-Murder-Tree-Planting-Ceremony-To-Mark-First-Anniversary-Of-Death-In-Goa-India/Article/200902315224656&cid=0&ei=ilabSY-FNuSpmQfc4aGmAw&usg=AFQjCNG8b9Y0b6uW2mN-Wa_zOR_rfcYKUA

*** Goa Carnival put terror concerns aside - NDTV.com
[Feb 16, 2009]  Notwithstanding security concerns in the
aftermath of the Mumbai terrorist attacks, the Goa Carnival
later this month will take place on the promenade along ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/5-0&fd=R&url=http://travels.ndtv.com/Story.aspx?pageheader=news&sub_category=&ID=252&cid=1304847028&ei=ilabSY-FNuSpmQfc4aGmAw&usg=AFQjCNG39UWC-ouMl-KX1KYpqgQEXdtZ5g

*** Capturing Mumbai, With Humor - International Herald Tribune
[2 hours ago]  He now leads a retired life in Goa, buthis
murals are still seen in many of Mumbais popular hang-outs, such
as Café Mondegar at Colaba Causeway. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://blogs.iht.com/tribtalk/travel/globespotters/?p=691&cid=0&ei=ilabSY-FNuSpmQfc4aGmAw&usg=AFQjCNEWfvk4y3kZCdkq0VqDzJFrKnE8qw

*** IRCTC announces Goa carnival package - Times of India
[Feb 16, 2009]  Ahmedabad: Indian Railway Catering and Tourism
Corporation has decided to include Gujarati food in the special
package for the Goa Carnival. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/4-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Ahmedabad/IRCTC_announces_Goa_carnival_package/articleshow/4139303.cms&cid=1304878353&ei=ilabSY-FNuSpmQfc4aGmAw&usg=AFQjCNFn1RwQGwFn-4KnDKe4yxkOcujEjg

*** Goa Hotels are the finest examples of hospitality -
마ì"¸ë"스포츠올림피아ë"
[12 hours ago]  One of the finest holiday destinations on
earth, Goa is high on beaches, beautiful locations and world
class hotels aiming to make your stay in Goa as ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-0&fd=R&url=http://www.msokorea.com/destinations/0,6600,444763,00.html&cid=0&ei=ilabSY-FNuSpmQfc4aGmAw&usg=AFQjCNF6OoKkeB9flOk5bRQ6VS-pr0kcwg

*** Briton chose fraud route to Goa, landed up in jail - Indian
Express
[3 hours ago]  The idea was to use the money diverted to
Princes account to finance Jones retirement plans in Goa. When
the council deposited 2.5 million pounds in the ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/briton-chose-fraud-route-to-goa-landed-.../424840/&cid=0&ei=ilabSY-FNuSpmQfc4aGmAw&usg=AFQjCNEUHcVSw8oVZuIwepKNvn37MsKqjA


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet] Goa-Bombay-Goa 'Jan Shatabdi' now runs daily from 18th Feb.2009

2009-02-17 Thread JoeGoaUk

Goa-Bombay-Goa 'Jan Shatabdi' now runs daily from 18th Feb.2009

Jan Shetabdi every day  which also takes about 9hrs.
Ex CST 0510 – 1135 same day
Ex Margao 1430 – 2320 same day
It stops at 2+8 stations
Fare A/c Chair Rs.680 . non- a/c chair Rs.197


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[Goanet] Now meet 15 eminent Tiatr Artists who were recently honoured by the state

2009-02-17 Thread JoeGoaUk

Now meet 15 eminent Tiatr Artists who were honoured by the state recently

With Antonette Mendes, Titta Pretto, C D Silva, Philomena Braz, Clara Dias, 
Star of Arossim, John Claro etc etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-ckUDWJqbo

Traditional brass band also included
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-ckUDWJqbo


I have seen some tiatrists for the first time like Star of Arossim, Anita, 
Lucas, Antonio, Master Vaz and Thomas

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[Goanet] Talking photos: It going to be big mess at Panaji on 21 Feb. ?

2009-02-17 Thread JoeGoaUk

Talking photos:[Goanet] It going to be big mess at Panaji on 21 Feb.

Well, to me, it does look like there will be a big mess around 21st /22nd Feb
It seems all campal grounds will  fully occupied with pendals and barricades as 
can be seen in this pic
Ground near indoor swimming pool
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk17/3288387130/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk17/3287568705/sizes/l/

Grounds opp Gymkana, too fully occupied with large area covered with pendals.

Now, what about Kala academy?
There are more private exhibition/function  than Kala related programes.
Must be good money coming in.
It premises, always seems fully booked by the private parties.
In these days,  it looks like preparations are going in full swing for another 
IIJS show.
This time, entire KA premises are covered with aluminum sheets.
As for Parking, they say ‘Go away’
No parking here until 27th Feb. The board also suggest nearest Parking at 
Campal grounds but the one which is next to it is almost occupied by IIJS 
(India Intrnational jewelry show?). see a file pic 
http://flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2307964317/
http://flickr.com/photos/joegoauk13/2298195105/


Kala academy gone public to commercial?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/3288323494/
Traffic  already seen jammed around KA and God knows the situation during the 
coming days from 21st Feb – Being Carnival, followed by Darshan etc etc

Go little further towards Old GMC  till Old Secretariat.

Roads/pavements are almost blocked with Carnival barricading materials.
Carnival in on 21st but  public footpath blockages from 15th.?

Miramar panpotti is also back
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/3280379218/sizes/l/


no discipline  zone – Pedestrian go to hell
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/3285718825/


Blocking zone
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/3285719627/
with carnival barricade/ materials
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/3287506517/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/3287505881/

Why do we need food streets when our streets are already full of food?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/3287504581/sizes/l/
Casino boat also seen
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/3288324092/sizes/l/

Belpuri gaddas are almost on every street.



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[Goanet] Meet 82 years old - Master Vaz

2009-02-17 Thread JoeGoaUk

Master Vaz. (José Lawrence Vaz)
82 years old with 75 years of tiatr experience.
As he was acting along with his father at the age of 7. people named him as 
Master Vaz to differentiate from the Sr and Jr Vaz. And he is still called 
Master Vaz (I guess the same goes to Bab Peter, Bab Andrew etc).
Master Vaz is also a master of nine children. Marcus Vaz being one of his 6 
sons.


Meet Master Vaz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAOc80_PHSw

Tiatr Academy of Goa was inaugurted at the hands of Master Vaz on 16.2.09

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[Goanet] Who killed Scalett Keeling

2009-02-17 Thread edward desilva
Philomena Fernandes,
I agree with Ignatius, we do not try to cover the crime, but let us investigate 
as to who actually killed her, before trying to push the blame on the conduct 
of the mother.
-
Hi,
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2246508.ece
Ms MacKeown now says she is being sent questions from the Indian police about 
her personal life and believes they are concentrating their investigation on 
her rather than Scarlett’s attacker. 





Re: [Goanet] Fanaticism

2009-02-17 Thread marlon menezes
Thank you. I did actually do that when your colleague Chris Vaz personally 
attacked muslims after a goanetter Tariq Siddiqi expressed opposition to 
President Bush's policies. Ironically, you continued to defend Chris terrible 
statements even after Chris was modest enough to apologize for his comments. 
But then, you even accused the late Pope John Paul of being a terrorist 
sympathizer for his opposition to the war in Iraq!

As always, you seem to too easily fall into the trap of partisanship.  I guess 
the saying, "one can't teach an old dog new tricks" really does apply to you. 

Tsk, tsk.

Marlon

--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Mario Goveia  wrote:

Mario asks:

Marlon, why don't you start by listing an example of the bigotry you are 
alleging, and respond to it?









[Goanet] This Sunday, Feb 22: "Celebrate Goa" at the ICC in Milpitas, California

2009-02-17 Thread George Pinto
FINAL REMINDER!

Dear all

A fun event for the whole family. Recession got you down? Get your spirits up. 
Don't miss this special event for only $7 per person with lunch! Goa Sudharop 
is hosting a Goan cultural event this Sunday, February 22, 2009 at the India 
Community Center in Milpitas, California. All invited. 

LOCATION: INDIA COMMUNITY CENTER, www.indiacc.org
ADDRESS:  525 Los Coches St. Milpitas, California, 95035, USA
TIME: 11AM-2:30PM
DATE: FEB 22, 2009 (SUNDAY)
LUNCH:COST $7 PER HEAD (Veg and Non-Veg will be provided)

11:00-12:2080 mins - Lunch
12:20-12:3515 mins - Goa Fado documentary
12:35-12:40 5 mins - 2 Goan poems
12:40-12:45 5 mins - Welcome
12:45-12:5510 mins - History of Goa
12:55-1:02  7 mins - Goan Festivals
1:02-1:07   5 mins - Goan Dekhni dance
1:07-1:12   5 mins - Goan Youth Folk Dance
1:12-1:20   8 mins - Goan Mando dance
1:20-1:25   5 mins - Children performing to Goan song
1:25-1:32   7 mins - Goa Sudharop Report
1:32-1:37   5 mins - Community volunteers recognition
1:37-1:47  10 mins - Jollywood dance by seniors
1:47-2:27  40 mins - Goa Youth Panel Discussion
2:27-2:37  10 mins - Laxman Pai Art demonstration
2:37-2:45   8 mins - Tea

Do not miss this rare opportunity to savor the culture of Goa. Learn about Goan 
history, traditional Goan festivals, great Goan entertainment, Goan folk 
dances, and much more. Additionally world-renowned Goan artist Laxman Pai will 
display his art work. Lunch is $7 per person. In accordance with our theme for 
2009 (YEAR OF THE YOUTH), we will have a Goan Youth Panel which will highlight 
important current issues.

Please RSVP asap to Savio Menezes at sav...@hotmail.com. Although you can buy 
your ticket at the door we need to have a headcount in advance for lunch 
catering purposes so please email Savio immediately and let him know the number 
in your group.

OPTIONAL 1: If you wish, we urge you to bring your favorite Goan sweet(s) dish 
to share with others.

OPTIONAL 2:  We also invite you to nominate Goans (any age) who perform 
community and public service and volunteer in their communities. Goa Sudharop 
is committed to encouraging volunteerism and many Goans silently give back to 
their communities. This is an opportunity for us to recognize and honor them at 
the event on Feb 22. Nominees must be present and will be called onstage. 
Please send your nominations and a very brief write-up of the nominee and the 
reason for nomination by Feb 20 to Acaria Almeida at 
acaria.i.alme...@bankofamerica.com.

Please pass this message on to your family, friends, and those interested in 
Goan culture. We look forward to seeing you on February 22.

Goa Sudharop
www.goasudharop.org


[Goanet] Daily Grook #325

2009-02-17 Thread Francis Rodrigues

 
DAILY GROOK #325
__
 
STRESS REPRESS
__
by Francis Rodrigues
 
 
back to school
lotsa de-tests,
but staying cool
avoids distress!
 
_
puns & word-play of all kinds,
hey...read between the lines!
_
 

_



[Goanet] Talking Photos: The 6th beauty just arrived?

2009-02-17 Thread JoeGoaUk

Talking Photos: The 6th beauty just arrived?

Must have arrive this morning or at noon.

6th beauty just arrived?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk17/3287570419/sizes/l/

posing almost parallel to each other and all others passing in between them
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk17/3287569931/sizes/l/


at dawn with other two
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk17/3287570957/sizes/l/

at dawn
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk17/3288377920/

at night
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk17/3287559607/

...and the 7th beauty still to come

Other 5 beauties are seen in this clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4zND_2pb20

copy to  BS

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[Goanet] BARACK OBAMA - THE NEW MESSIAH ? - NOT

2009-02-17 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:58:11 -0800 (PST)
From: marlon menezes 


The US economy is indeed doing great. Or is it?

see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GoenchimXapotam/message/9078


I think we deserve to be at least a LITTLE smug now, because a "dummy" of a 
President confounded his critics one more time, took a declining economy and 
turned it around with policies that have caused huge tax increases for the 
economy with lower taxes for each taxpayer, 


Mario responds:

I looked in vain for something wrong in my quote above.

The US economy did do well for seven years after Bush cut tax rates and created 
record tax revenues.  I have frequently criticised President Bush for being 
unable to curb wasteful government spending, which Marlon conveniently ignores.

Yeah, Bush was wrong to join the push for minority home ownership through 
lowered lending standards, but even a strident Bush-critic like you have to 
agree that we are going from the frying pan into the fire, and your 
narrow-minded and unbalanced criticisms contributed to this.

The low income housing boom accelerated following the big push under Clinton, 
where Janet Reno was threatening the banks with lawsuits if they did not comply 
with the Community Reinvestment Act and the banks joined the party because they 
could all make big bonuses by laying the risks off the Fannie Mae and Freddy 
Mac.

Were you even aware that the biggest political recipients of PAC money from 
these quasi-government organizations were not Bush or any Republican, but 
Obama, Dodd and Frank, not Bush or McCain?  Ever wonder why?

John McCain tried to stem the tide but was falsely tagged with the crisis by 
the Obama obsessed media during the election campaign.  See,

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/do_facts_matter.html

Where were you when all this was brewing?

Anyone familiar with American business cycles would know that even pessimists 
like you, after being wrong for seven years, will eventually be correct as a 
business cycle ends.

Marlon wrote:

Unfortunately, I AM WITH Mario now, in that the new US administration is only 
stoking the fire with its excessive spending. One does not solve the problem of 
excessive debt by going into even more debt. All it is doing now is replacing 
private debt with govt debt. I'm putting my money into certain commodities, 
clean tech and non heavily export dependent economies like India.

Mario responds:

Unfortunately, it is short-sighted know-it-all critics like you who enabled the 
current admistration to prevail in the last election, and the whole world is 
likely to pay a heavy price of slowing down the world's economic engine and 
making it more like Europe.

Will "clean tech" survive the Obama administration's subsidies when the US will 
return to more free market policies?  Billions of government subsidies in clean 
tech over the last 25 years have gone down the drain.  Boone Pickens has lost 
billions in clean tech.

"non heavily export dependent economies like India"?  Are we forgetting 
"exports" of outsourced services from India which are sucking fumes currently, 
with Asif Premji imploring Obama to modify his protectionist tendencies?

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:40:31 -0800 (PST)
From: marlon menezes 
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Why the West's luck has run out

Secondly, the two countries that have been the most badly affected by the 
banking crisis are the US and England. 

Mario responds:

The UK is heavily regulated.  The US financial crisis was created by government 
regulation.  It's called the Community Reinvestment Act.

Now, critics like you have given us the most left wing administration in US 
history.  You are going to get regulation like you have never seen before.  I 
hope you are happy.










[Goanet] Update on Orissa

2009-02-17 Thread Marshall Mendonza
http://www.frontlineonnet.com/stories/20090227260403500.htm


[Goanet] Cow urine the new taste sensation as India markets it as a soft drink | World News | News.com.au

2009-02-17 Thread edward desilva
Hi,
When I wrote a reply to some goanetters ie. Samir, Bhandare etc about Hindu 
people drinking cow's urine in Banares and Jabalpur.
My posting was rejected, saying it is rubbish. (I would like Santosh to be my 
moderator on Goanet - a 'correct and paste jockey').
Moderators wanted cut and paste job to justify my claim.
In fact about Banares I saw it on TV during Kumb Mela and in Jabalpur I saw it 
myself.
ED.

 http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25043427-38196,00.html Just like Soma; 
only better!Cheers,rubygoes 






[Goanet] Four lane Hedode Bridge in Sattari

2009-02-17 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE
See the size of HEDODE Bridge. 

http://wikimapia.org/#lat=15.569177&lon=74.1378558&z=18&l=0&m=a

This bridge was initiated and completed in short tenure when Big Rane was CM in 
2005. 

What could be the reason to built four lane bridge in remote place of Goa 
(Sattari) with no connecting HIGHWAYS nearby. 

New mining area to be developed can only be the reason. Could be copper mining! 
Who knows?

Shrikant Vinayak Barve



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Re: [Goanet] Why the West's luck has run out - and why Canada and India's has begun

2009-02-17 Thread marlon menezes
Mervyn,

I have been tempted to invest in Canada, given its strong balance sheet, good 
financial system etc. Unfortunately, I don't think you can put Canada and India 
in the same boat.  Some 70% of Canada's trade is with the US.   If the US 
sinks, Canada sinks. 

In contrast, India is quite far removed from the US, both geographically and 
economically. Amongst the major industrial nations, India's continues to remain 
very insular and non export driven.  Much of its trade with the US is based on 
services rather than consumption. While India will definitely feel the sting of 
the US problem, it will not be as severe as countries such as China and of 
course Canada.

We are taking you down with us baby!

Marlon

--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:

From: Mervyn Lobo 
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Why the West's luck has run out - and why Canada and 
India's has begun
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 6:16 PM


marlon menezes wrote:
> In the video below, we see Bush promoting home ownership and bragging about 
> the half trillion in increased 
> lending to minorities and a reduction of restrictions and controls for home 
> ownership.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqQx7sjoS8



[Goanet] Girls to stay home and cut tendli

2009-02-17 Thread Carvalho
This is an extract from an article, which appeared on the Herald, by University 
Professor, Joe D'Souza.

"The growth of casinos, pubs, raves, carnivals and drugs will induce rapes, 
suicides, unwanted pregnancies, lowering of moral standards and anger in the 
society We must also acknowledge the positive benefits of moral policing, 
while rightly condemning excessive violence, fundamentalism and imposition of 
tradition. We must acknowledge that the girls assaulted at Mangalore were not 
afraid to make a police complaint, but it is their own hindsight and their 
parents’ desire to admit the negative impacts of mindless pub, casino and rave 
culture that made them refuse to forward to make a police complaint"
http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=17333&cid=14

I'm quite surprised the Herald would devote space to an opinion which 
rightfully belongs to the Neanderthal Gazette, but that is another matter.

If Professor Joe D'Souza, is to be believed Goan girls should stay at home and 
cut tendli. I wonder if the Professor has done any studies that link, casinos, 
pubs, raves and carnivals to rapes, suicides, unwanted pregnancies and lowering 
of moral standards. Staying at home and having to dine everyday at "mum's 
kitchen", as he likes to call it, can also lead to acute depression not mention 
suicidal tendencies if mum happens to be a particularly bad cook.

How is it that no one in India has decried the end of civilisation when men 
visit bars at 7 in the home, bring home AIDS from red-light districts, waste 
their entire salaries throwing money at girls in mujras, ask for dowries, force 
their wives to produce male heirs and finally douse them with kerosene if 
things don't go as planned. It always strikes me as rather perverse to speak of 
the moral degradation of Western society, when India ranks as one of the top 
ten most corrupt countries in the world. 

Society has survived changes in its cultural make-up despite the histrionics of 
its parochial, self-appointed custodians. At one time, Elvis gyrating his 
Pelvis was predicted to bring about a cataclysmic end to the universe as we 
know it. The only thing that truly corrupts the world is placing fetters around 
its need to grow and evolve.

It is the responsibility of every child to realise that his potential is more 
than his parents. And it is the responsibility of every parent to let the child 
go when that moment arrives and the child has indeed surpassed his parents. Not 
chain him in archaic ideas of what constitutes morality.

Best,
Selma





[Goanet] Indian Workers in Dubai

2009-02-17 Thread edward desilva
This was sent to me by one of our Goanetters:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/relocatedubai
My question is, Why don't the Indian free lance journalist or Indian media do 
some investigation about their citizens in Dubai?
There was an investigative journalism made about this subject 'foreign labour 
in Dubai' by an Indian Journalist in UK and shown on UK TV.
I don't understand why the Indians could not capitalise on this subject, and 
bring to light the atrocities dished out to the Indians in Dubai?
ED.
--- 
The gist of the content:
"The nature of my job not only entailed the inspection of construction sites 
but also necessitated late night meetings with local investors, high-ranking 
Government officials, overseas clientele and arranging sex-workers to entertain 
them, in order to secure the necessary funding for the company’s numerous 
construction projects. This is where I was subject to the reality of Dubai’s 
human-trafficking and prostitution racket. This inexcusable trade in human 
flesh is a high-profile activity in a region which hosts Islam's two holiest
places –Mecca and Medina. We Indians readily accept the fact that India is not 
free from the clutches of human trafficking, the sex trade and child slavery, 
and that the Indian Government, despite undertaking several measures to root 
out this social menace readily acknowledges the problem our country faces. The 
Dubai Authorities on the other hand, have turned a blind eye to prostitution 
and illegal trafficking based solely on greed, hypocrisy and corruption, to the 
extent that when the Dubai Police's Criminal Investigation Department (CID) 
makes arrests, (at times) it is because they want to gang rape a particular 
woman.  This is in a land where the legal system implemented by the Dubai 
Federal Judiciary is based on a very strict code of conduct known as Sharia law 
that imposes the death penalty for adultery and prostitution. This kind of 
hypocrisy and exploitation goes against all the tenets and teachings of our 
Zoroastrian religion and made me
 seriously reconsider my position.

During my three years in Dubai, I was witness and also subject to acts of 
racism, where people are strictly segregated and a hierarchy worthy of previous 
centuries prevails. At the top, dominating all other poor mortals, in their 
black or white robes, are the locals with their oil money. Under the locals 
come the western foreigners, the experts and advisers, making double the 
salaries they make back home, all tax free. Beneath them are the Arabs - 
Lebanese and Palestinians, Egyptians and Syrians. I realised that what unites 
these groups is a mixture of pretension and racism. We Indians come way below, 
at the bottom rung of this ladder, and it is indeed sad to see how many 
Indians, including Parsis, quietly accept and subject themselves to this 
inhuman treatment, all in the name of the money they worship.

The final straw on the camel’s back was when I decided to quit my job and move 
back to Ahmedabad as my wife was diagnosed as suffering from the worst form of 
Tuberculosis, a drug resistant strain of Pulmonary TB. I was told by my company 
that I needed to complete my three year contract before I could leave Dubai. It 
all started with Legionnaires' disease, which she contracted from the hotel in 
which we were put up for a month, when we first came to Dubai. Legionnaires' 
disease has become increasingly prevalent in hotels in Dubai, due to the high 
flow of traffic in all hotels, including five-star hotels, which cannot cope 
with this traffic and therefore, have absolutely low or even zero maintenance 
and disinfection procedures of air conditioning ducts, humidifiers, shower 
heads, and any piping in which water can lay. The Legionnaires' disease 
worsened and escalated to Pulmonary Tuberculosis. Because of the very nature of 
Pulmonary drug resistant TB,
 which is an often virulent infectious and contagious disease, my wife was 
refused permission by the Dubai Health Authority (DHA) to fly back to 
Ahmedabad, and was quarantined for six months in hospital in an isolation ward. 
My pleas of help and support to the Indian High
Commission fell on deaf ears, as they too had no power to intervene with the 
DHA. I also contacted the Dubai-based Khaleej Times and Gulf News, to tell them 
my about my difficult situation and I was subsequently threatened with 
imprisonment by the Government, which controls and oversees each and every 
aspect of the press, enforcing media-related laws, censoring publications and 
even going so far as
to appoint approved and vetted editors, who "toe-the Government-line." Unlike 
in India, where we are so used to free and fair speech and freedom of the 
Press, my dear fellow Zoroastrians, that kind of freedom is absolutely unheard 
of and unimaginable in Dubai! Increasingly, my wife’s condition worsened, until 
finally, exactly a year to the date she contracted the disease in this land, my 
beloved wife and the l

[Goanet] 'Integral',' Illegal', 'peaceful', 'tenable" !!!

2009-02-17 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
 

All of a sudden Goans are seen glued to know what is meant by 'Integral','
Illegal', 'peaceful', 'tenable" in eyes of law!! 

 

Goans ENT are now focused on Governor, CM, and Opposition leader to now what
all these words mean and how the interpretation of these great ()
personalities will  affect Goa & Goans.

 

In this context I liked Hartman de Souza's article. If you are interested to
know what Harman writes clickon the link provided below: 

 

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-February/173947.htm
l

 

To understand more on these words contact Rajan Parrikar.  

 

Best regards,

 

Dr. U. G. Barad 

 

 



Re: [Goanet] [Goa Research Net] Talking Photos: Caju, Urak, Fenni etc

2009-02-17 Thread Anthony de Souza

Excellent!
 
We were just discussing the production of feni with some of my friends. All of 
us have spent very little time in Goa
Dr. Anthony de Souza 741 Broadview Av. #308 
Toronto, Ont. 
M4K 3Y3 

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[Goanet] Why the West's luck has run out

2009-02-17 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:19:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Gilbert Lawrence 

Problem with world economies today is not mere wasteful government spending, 
but wasteful spending at all levels including individuals and corporations. In 
the latter situations we call that "poor management decisions".

Mario asks:

It is no one's else'e business what individuals or corporations spend, other 
than the individuals and the owners of the corporations.

The fundamentals of free market economics require those individuals or 
corporations who succeed to be well rewarded and those who make poor decisions 
to be penalised or not rewarded with huge bonuses, bailouts, etc.

During the Bush administrations receipts to the Treasury soared from lower tax 
rates and we had good growth and low inflation for seven years, but wasteful 
government spending soared as well, adding to the costs of the economic 
fall-out from 9/11 and the subsequent decision to counter-attack and liberate 
of 50 million Muslims, which has prevented another attack on the mainland, and 
providing foreign AID on HIV/AIDS, TB and malaria in particular, leading to the 
deficits.

Then the financial crisis, brewing since the Carter administration and the 
Community Reinvestment Act, finally caught up with us.

Gilbert wrote:

The current financial crises has its roots in GREED on the part of the bank 
executives. In the US and the rest of the world, the bank execs/ lobbyists 
pressured their governments to loosen up bank regulations, permitting banks to 
expand beyond their original obligations and take on debt far in excess of 
reasonable risks. Such was the opinion of a no less a fiscal conservative - 
Alan Greenspan, former Fed Reserve Bank Chairman.

Mario responds:

This is false and apparently gleaned from liberal media reports.  A brutally 
honest and far more informed analysis of the problem is provided in the 
following column by Stanford University economist Tom Sowell:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/do_facts_matter.html

Excerpt:

We also hear that it is the free market that is to blame. But the facts show 
that it was the government that pressured financial institutions in general to 
lend to subprime borrowers, with such things as the Community Reinvestment Act 
and, later, threats of legal action by then Attorney General Janet Reno if the 
feds did not like the statistics on who was getting loans and who wasn't.

Is that the free market? Or do facts not matter?

Then there is the question of being against the "greed" of CEOs and for "the 
people." Franklin Raines made $90 million while he was head of Fannie Mae and 
mismanaging that institution into crisis.

Who in Congress defended Franklin Raines? Liberal Democrats, including Maxine 
Waters and the Congressional Black Caucus, at least one of whom referred to the 
"lynching" of Raines, as if it was racist to hold him to the same standard as 
white CEOs.

Even after he was deposed as head of Fannie Mae, Franklin Raines was consulted 
this year by the Obama campaign for his advice on housing!

The Washington Post criticized the McCain campaign for calling Raines an 
adviser to Obama, even though that fact was reported in the Washington Post 
itself on July 16th. The technicality and the spin here is that Raines is not 
officially listed as an adviser. But someone who advises is an adviser, whether 
or not his name appears on a letterhead.

The tie between Barack Obama and Franklin Raines is not all one-way. Obama has 
been the second-largest recipient of Fannie Mae's financial contributions, 
right after Senator Christopher Dodd.

But ties between Obama and Raines? Not if you read the mainstream media.

Facts don't matter much politically if they are not reported.
[end of excerpt]

Ron Paul is just another politician who has no executive experience in managing 
anything, unlike the successful Governors like Palin and Jindal, Stanford and 
Pawlenty, Barbour and Perry.





Re: [Goanet] Fanaticism

2009-02-17 Thread Mario Goveia
--- On Fri, 2/6/09, Roland Francis  wrote:

Who cares about the broad spectrum of Indian society. They are not the
ones who kill Christians and Muslims and thrash defenceless girls,
throwing them to the ground. The writer is asking us to see the
obvious. I would submit that what is obvious is actually this writer's
failure to see that you don't need the broad spectrum to be violent.
All you need is a few fruitcakes doing their thing and the police
looking the other way. In fact the broad spectrum's opinions matter
not a whit in India. According to this writer's logic if we give the
Indian masses a lot more credit, then the killings of Christians and
Muslims and the attacks on defenceless girls is not likely to happen
again.

Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 23:19:26 -0800 (PST)
From: marlon menezes 

An immature child typically wants an immediate response or gratification from 
the adults around it. And that too seems to be Roland's behavior. 

Mario observes:

This childish and mean-spirited response is like a pot calling the kettle black.

Marlon wrote:

Most individuals who have seen the video of the assault of the helpless woman 
would instinctively want immediate retribution, as is so obvious in Roland's 
synaptic response as well. This is obvious. Unlike him, I believe that Indian 
society is mature enough to deal with such transgressions. It will not happen 
right away, but it will happen. We must let justice take its course rather than 
feed the fires of communalism.

Mario observes:

Is it "immediate retribution" to demand that members and organisers of violent 
mobs be prosecuted and brought to justice?  How is India's allegedly "mature 
society" dealing with such situations which are getting progressively worse 
with time?  Years later, cases having to do with Babri Masjid and the Godhra 
massacre are still continuing to wend their way through the Indian legal 
system.  More recent cases of mob violence will take years to prosecute, if at 
all, belieing any notion of "immediate retribution" or that India's "mature 
society" are exercising any influence over the pace of any progress.

Indian society as a whole just seems happy to not be involved and have so far 
only expressed themselves by keeping the BJP and Shiv Sena out of more power 
because of their more extreme elements and blatantly communal positions.

Marlon wrote:

However, what I see in Roland's response is a high level of hypocrisy and 
duplicity. How can we expect the broader society "out there" to respond to the 
obvious transgressions taking place, when we remain silent to the bigotry 
happening in our midst on goanet? 

Mario observes:

How does a cheap allegation that "we" are silent to any perceived bigotry 
taking place on Goanet lead to an accusation that Roland is hypocritical or 
duplicitous?  Has Roland written anything that can be construed as bigotry, or 
is this yet another gratuitous, immature and mean-spirited comment?

What has Marlon done, if anything, about the bigotry he blythely alleges on 
Goanet without mentioning any specifics?

In my opinion, anything that smacks of bigotry on Goanet is immediately taken 
issue with by a number of other writers.

Marlon wrote:

More importantly, this is something we can actively challenge on this forum and 
make a difference. It seems to me that we are part of this same non responsive 
society that we seem to be decrying about now. 

Mario asks:

Marlon, why don't you start by listing an example of the bigotry you are 
alleging, and respond to it?








[Goanet] Ram Sene men to burn pink chaddis.

2009-02-17 Thread Nelson Rodrigues
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Ram-Sene-men-to-burn-pink-chaddis/articleshow/4132871.cms


Ram Sene men to burn pink chaddis

15 Feb 2009, 2141 hrs IST, TNN  
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HUBLI: The pink chaddis that became tools of non-violent resistance against 
moral policing will soon be burnt. The Sri Ram Sene wants to burn these  
embarrassing Valentine's Day gifts at a public place on Monday. 

"Some of our members are still in police custody. We will organize a public 
event once all are out," Sene spokesman Krishna Gandaghalekar said on Sunday. 
"Sending these chaddis to the leader of a patriotic organization is like 
insulting him. We will give a fitting reply by burning them." 

Gandaghalekar expects Sene leader Pramod Mutalik, now in the custody of the 
Gulbarga police, to be released by then and lead the protest. 

The Sene office remained locked for the third day on Sunday and no one could 
receive parcels of chaddis which were still coming in. 

"Some parcels should be pending with courier companies. We will burn them too," 
Gandaghalekar said. 

The Sene has changed its plans about the underwear three times in the last few 
days. First its leaders said these would be sent to an orphanage. 

Later, they said the parcels would be returned to the parents of the girls who 
had sent them. Then they said the parcels would be publicly auctioned. But on 
Sunday, they confirmed they'll burn them. 

Meanwhile, stung by the bad press that his government got over the last few 
weeks on moral policing, Karnataka chief minister B S Yeddyurappa gave vent to 
his displeasure at a public function on Sunday. "Is it a crime to talk about 
religion? Is it a crime to infuse patriotism in young minds?" he asked, while 
addressing a function of Sri Degula Mutt of Kanakapura in Ramnagaram district.  





Re: [Goanet] Why the West's luck has run out - and why Canada and India's has begun

2009-02-17 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:16:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Mervyn Lobo 

Marlon,
The date on the above video, March 17, 2002 (St. Patrick's Day) has a special 
significance me and other gold bugs. I was in a pub in Napa Valley, California 
watching the faith based leader when the woman who was courting me said, "You 
know what, this guy is going to ruin the USA and the US dollar." That was the 
last day gold was at $292.00. The price of gold never returned to that price. 
In fact, it has tripled since. 
Coincidence?

Mario observes:

Is it coincidence, or the fourth explanation of how Mervyn picked the low price 
for gold way back then.  As he explained in an exchange with Roland, the other 
three were, a) he looked at price charts in 2008 to find the low price of gold 
in 2002, b) he learned that all the central bankers, who are idiots by 
definition according to Mervyn, were selling gold, which told him he should be 
buying gold, and c) he figured out the low price of gold by working harder than 
everyone else, just like he did when catching more crabs than anyone else in 
Tanzania.

Now we learn that he learned that gold would was at it's low point when being 
courted [???] by a woman in a pub in the Napa Valley:-))

Arre, vah!  Kamaal hai!  as they say in the slums in India.

Mervyn wrote:

As you know, all the major US banks have failed and are kept open today only 
because the US uses taxpayers money to support them.

Mario responds:

This is simply factually incorrect.  To begin with there are some 7,600 banks 
in the US, in addition to over 8,000 credit unions.  None of the banks have 
failed.  Out of all these there were 116 banks that accepted federal bailout 
funds as of year-end 2008.

If they had not been bailed out by the lurch towards socialism in the US most 
of the banks that had made bad decisions would have been acquired or merged 
with other banks, and their managers and stockholders would have paid the price 
as they should in a free market system, and the rest of the country would have 
been better off.

Mervyn wrote:

According to my newspapers today, the world is now looking to the socialist 
countries of Canada and Spain for the future of banking.

Mario responds:

Socialism has failed miserably in the long run wherever it has been tried.  If 
socialism was the answer all its previous major proponents would not have 
relegated it to the thrash heap of history where it belongs.

Marlon knows all this, or should, but, as we see once again, he is toothless in 
responding to balderdash by one of his cronies.














[Goanet] A toast to our Gujjus and the ever flying Gujju spirit!!! :-)

2009-02-17 Thread Samir Kelekar
Gujjubhai was bragging to his boss one day "I know everyone there is to know. 
Just name someone, anyone, and I know them."
Tired of his boasting, his boss called his bluff, "OK, how about Tom Cruise?"
"Sure, yes, Tom and I are old friends, and I can prove it." So Gujjubhai and 
his boss fly out to Hollywood and knock on Tom Cruise's door, and sure enough, 
Tom Cruise shouts, "Gujju! Great to see you!" You and your friend come right in 
and join me for lunch!"
Although impressed, Gujjubhai's boss is still sceptical. After they leave 
Cruise's house, he tells Gujjubhai that he thinks Gujjubhai's knowing Cruise 
was just lucky.
"No, no, just name anyone else", Gujjubhai says. "President Obama", his boss 
quickly retorts.
"Yes", Gujjubhai says, "I know him, let's fly out to Washington."
And off they go..
At the President's house, Obama spots Gujjubai on the tour and motions him and 
his boss over, saying, "Gujju, what a surprise, I was just on my way to a 
meeting, but you and your friend come on in and let's have a cup of coffee 
first and catch up."
Well, the boss is much shaken by now, but still not totally convinced.
After they leave the house, he expresses his doubts to Gujjubhai who again 
implores him to name anyone else.
"The Pope," his boss replies. "Sure!" says Gujjubhai. "My folks were in Poland, 
and I've known the Pope a long time". So off they fly to Rome. Gujjubhai and 
his boss are assembled with the masses in Vatican Square when Gujjubhai says 
"This will never work. I can't catch the Pope's eye among all these people.
"Tell you what, I know all the guards so let me just go upstairs and I'll come 
out on the balcony with the Pope."
And he disappears into the crowd headed toward the Vatican. Sure enough, half 
an hour later Gujjubhai emerges with the Pope on the balcony. But by the time 
Gujjubhai returns, he finds that his boss has had a heart attack and is 
surrounded by paramedics. Working his way to his boss' side, Gujjubhai asks 
him, "What happened?" His boss looks up and says, "I was doing fine until you 
and the Pope came out on the balcony and the man next to me said, "Who's that 
guy on the balcony with Gujjubhai?"



  


[Goanet] Cultural aggression in the name of Hindutva

2009-02-17 Thread Mario Goveia
Did someone recently complain that the authorities were soft on Muslim 
fundamentalists in India?  What the heck does the attached report sound like?  
Oh, I forgot!  This is the backlash to the pampering of Muslims.  Tsk, tsk, tsk!

According to the perspicacious Marlon, in a recent scathing response to Roland, 
calls for nipping this in the bud would be synaptic and immature.  He thundered 
darkly, "Most individuals who have seen the video of the assault of the 
helpless woman would instinctively want immediate retribution, as is so obvious 
in Roland's synaptic response as well. This is obvious. Unlike him, I believe 
that Indian society is mature enough to deal with such transgressions. It will 
not happen right away, but it will happen. We must let justice take its course 
rather than feed the fires of communalism."

Hasn't worked in 61 years, but, in India, everything takes time:-)) 

http://www.navhindtimes.com/story.php?story=2009021250

Excerpt:

ONE can only marvel - if that's the word - at the breathtaking speed with which 
the Sangh Parivar has vitiated the social climate in state after state. Within 
months of taking power in Karnataka, it has unleashed savage repression and 
turned Mangalore into a Hindu Taliban bulwark, where women are attacked if they 
go to a bar, where Hindus must not mix with Muslims, and where there is no 
media freedom and free interaction among young men and women.

The Sri Rama Sene led by Mr Pramod Mutalik has emerged as a menace. Karnataka 
has become the Gujarat of the South.
[end of excerpt]




[Goanet] Where are the goddamed 'secularists' now?

2009-02-17 Thread Sandeep Heble
A response to the following post on the GX Forum
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GoenchimXapotam/message/18507

My Response:

I generally agree with Rajan's opinions on this.

While the secular brigade has always been very vocal in condemning
Hindu fundamentalism (and rightly so), they are strangely silent when
it comes to condemning the fundamentalism in other religions.

This duplicity often bothers me. There is hardly even a whisper that
one can hear from them even when the principles of freedom of
expression are being abused left, right and center by Islamic
fundamentalists.

Here's an interesting column by Vir Sanghvi that I had read some time
back. This column perfectly exposes the double standards of the Indian
secular brigade. Please do read it.

http://tinyurl.com/dx3oaq

Cheers
Sandeep


Re: [Goanet] 'Peaceful March' my a$$...

2009-02-17 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar

Hartman de Souza wrote:
> In any civilized country, the Timblo-led 'peaceful march' 
> would have been seen as contempt for the constitution.

Touche!

As you may have realized by now, India is not a
civilized country.  And the Goan pols & govt bureaucracy
in tandem with real estate builders & miners are
involved in a criminal enterprise which will soon
finish Goa off.  The only way it can be stopped is for
Goans to rise up in rebellion.  I don't see that happening.

Regards,


r


Re: [Goanet] TIATR ACADEMY INAUGURATED 16/02/2009

2009-02-17 Thread jose fernandes
Godfreybab,
  Tiatr Akademiche ugtavnnechi ekdom bori khobor tuvem dilea. Punn"he
(Tomazinho Cardozo) also stated that the Dalgado Konknni Academy received *50
lacs* for the promotion of Konkani in Roman script" oxem jem boroilam tantum
matxe chuklam Dalgado Konknni Akademik *50 lakh nhoi*, *15 lakh
rupia*dileat oxem Tomazinho Cardozan mhonnlem, (punn hantuntle Dalgado
Konknni
Akademichea hatant aiz meren fokot *5 lakh rupia* poddleat.)

Dev Borem korum,
Jose Salvador Fernandes
Sekretar, Dalgado Konknni Akademi
Ponnji, Gõy

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:16 PM, godfrey gonsalves <
gonsalvesgodfre...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

> The Tiatr Academy of Goa was inaugurated today  16th February, 2009 at the
> hands of " Master Vaz" Jose Lourenco Vaz, a native of Aldona settled in
> Utorda  in the presence of the  Chief Minister of Goa Shri Digambar V Kamat
> , at the 1150 seater A/C – Joao Agostinho Fernandes "Pai Tiatrist"
> auditorium at Margao at exactly  1845 hrs (IST) amidst a thunderous applause
> from a hall packed audience who came on time to grace the ocassion on this
> "red letter day"thus fulfilling the long cherished dream of tiatrists.
>
>
> Speaking on the ocassion the octogenarian "Master Vaz" was overwehlemed at
> the opening of the Tiatr Academy of Goa, as  he completes 75 years
> performance on stage today.Incidentally his entire family past and
> present (six sons and 3 daughters )have had their innings on tiatr stage.
> He said he earned the sobriquet of Master Vaz because while his father was
> addressed as Mr Vaz he was called Master Vaz but that name remained immortal
> and he is not known by his real name.
>
> He was full praise for the Chief Minister Digambar Kamat who not only
> promised but also fullfilled his promise of a  Tiatr Academy.  In a
> repentent tone he however made a fervent appeal to do justice to Konkani
> (apparently in Roman script ) for " this is our mother and we cant forget
> her this was plea earned a thunderous applause from the audience.  He
> invoked the blessings of St Cecilia and St Francis Xavier the Patron Saints
> revered by tiatrists for the success of the tiatr.
>
> Earlier Director of Art & Culture Mr Prasad Lolayekar  impressed upon the
> audience that the Government was keen to promote tiatr.  He mentioned that
> tiatr audience membership far excelled that of nataks in Maharashtra,
> Gujarat and even Bengal vis a vis ratio of population in those States.  He
> further added that while the initial sum was a mere 15 lacs the Chief
> Minister who also holds the portfolio of Art & Culture has made a budgetary
> provision of an one time grant of  one crore and fifty lacs for the
> infrastructure et al.  He also stated that Goa was the first state in the
> country to have a Cultural Policy unlike other states . This policy  was
> formulated under the guidance of Dr Nandkumar Kamat.  The Tiatr Academy is
> the result of this policy.
>
>
> " Tiatr " as a performing art -- it  has become a symbol of Goan culture
> and despite odds censorship by the erstwhile Portuguese regime or it being
> relegated to the stature of entertainment for the lowly placed section of
> the society or  financial constraints it has survived without Government
> support since the beginning of the 20th century.  It centers around a story
> with around in  parts of the order of six to seven and intermingled with
> "cants" and cantaram . Each tiatr costs around Rs.15,000 to 20,000 for high
> profile tiatrists numbering 10. There are 2000 tiatrs staged per annum and
> the audience member ship is a whopping seven lacs nearly two thirds of
> the population of Goa (14 lacs at 2001 census) including 4 lacs of migrants
> .
>
> Politicians in power or those aspiring to be one  know too well the emotive
> appeal of the  "  tiatr"  asit acts as a barometer of their social
> standing or their performance as  this form of performing arts vibes
> strongly with the masses.  However all promised but none fulfilled . It
> provides not only entertainment invoking guffaws of laughter but it  depicts
> social evils, provides moral education to society and above all reflects the
> pulse of the society from time to time. With almost  500 feasts being
> celebrated in Goa on any given day  all 365/366 days of the year, no feast
> is complete without  a "tiatr"  -- a must see .  There are two books written
> thus far by Fausto Da Costa and another by Wilmix Wilson Mazarello, another
> one remembering the deceased is on the way by " Kokoy " John Gomes.
> Tiatrist or Konkani playwrights can broadly  be classified as those
> deceased, those performing until Liberation of Goa, those post
>  Liberation and those since the beginning of the 21st century.
>
> Constancio Lucasinho Caridade Ribeiro alias Lucasinho Ribeiro hailing from
> Assagao in Bardez, Goa   himself  a composer, musician  and singer   Mr.
> Joao Agostinho Fernandesfrom Modsai Margao an employee in a
> pharmaceutical firm,   Mr. Agostinho Mascarehna

[Goanet] 'Peaceful March' my a$$...

2009-02-17 Thread Hartman de Souza
According to a press communiqué issued by the management of the Cidade de
Goa hotel, on February 16 about '900 employees, associates and family
members of the hotel marched peacefully to Raj Bhavan to call upon the
Governor, the Chief Minister and the Leader of the Opposition to save their
livelihoods'.

Before one unnecessarily sheds tears for the Timblos, this 'peaceful march'
follows the Supreme Court ordering Cidade de Goa to demolish their illegal
constructions encroaching on a public beach that the hotel has clandestinely
tried to keep private for years, refusing passage through the hotel lobby
(as is their right), but also sealing off public access to the traditional
road that goes down to the beach.

Which agitation in Goa – and these are growing in number – would not have
wished for this kind of orchestration? The Governor, the Chief Minister and
the Leader of the Opposition conveniently at hand to receive a memorandum.
200 odd employees of the hotel and students from the Academy of Culinary
Education (an illegal construction) joined by 'associates' (who could be
truck drivers from the mines for all we know) and 'family members' to make
up the numbers. Not a single lathi charge. Not a single old woman put in the
lock-up, not one woman abused by police officers in the pay of a mining
company, not a single villager harassed by cops as happened in Collomb. No
defamation case. Civilized politics.

The Chief Minister, as only to be expected, played for time. He made
sympathetic noises and promised to study the situation. The Leader of the
Opposition, given his propensity to take over space with his mouth, did
exactly that. The Herald quotes him say saying 'It is a simple matter. The
legislature should act and I will fully support so that so many jobs are
protected. We cannot afford to lose jobs in the time of recession'.

So what is he saying exactly, that the Legislature should act by
overthrowing a Supreme Court order? Not to be outdone, support for this
farce was also extended by Taleigao MLA and Education Minister Babush
Monserrate who the Herald quotes as saying 'The government must do all it
can to prevent demolition. The resort provides many jobs in the constituency
and I will support any effort to avoid the breaking down of any part of the
hotel which will lead to job losses.'

It is all very funny if it wasn't so sad. The Cidade de Goa memorandum
states that 'the Court has ordered that an integral part of the resort be
demolished' and pleads with the governor 'to intervene within the
constitutional framework and help us to avoid this demolition, which will
save us our jobs and livelihood'.
For 'integral' above read 'illegal', read that the Timblos knew exactly what
laws they were flaunting and why, and how their business prospered, read
that within the constitutional framework when the Supreme Court of this land
passes an order it must be respected. In any civilized country, the
Timblo-led 'peaceful march' would have been seen as contempt for the
constitution.


[Goanet] How bad is the Economy?

2009-02-17 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
How Bad is the Economy?
 
Pretty bad! Especially when conservatives who are against BIG government  
talk about nationalizing banks.  Does it not sound like a Latin American 
country?
 
See what financial whiz - George Soros has to say:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-soros/a-plan-for-economic-recov_b_166518.html
 
"The size of the problem is even larger than it was in the 1930s. This can be 
seen from a simple calculation. Total credit outstanding was 160 percent of GDP 
in 1929, and it rose to 260 percent in 1932 due to the accumulation of debt and 
the decline of GDP. We entered into the Crash of 2008 at 365 percent, which is 
bound to rise to 500 percent or more by the time the full effect is felt. And 
this calculation does not take into account the pervasive use of derivatives, 
which was absent in the 1930s but immensely complicates the current situation. 
The situation has been further aggravated by the haphazard and arbitrary way in 
which it was handled by the Bush administration. The public and the business 
community suffered a shock in the aftermath of the Lehman Brothers default, and 
the economy has fallen off a cliff. The next two quarters will show rapid 
deterioration."
 
Regards, GL





Re: [Goanet] Dr. Maruti Chitampalli : Kokani names of 400 varieties of Fish.

2009-02-17 Thread Alfred de Tavares


 

> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:33:08 -0800
> From: shri8...@yahoo.com
> To: goa...@goanet.org
> CC: goenchimxapo...@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Goanet] Dr. Maruti Chitampalli : Kokani names of 400 varieties of 
> Fish.
> 
> Eight year old Dr. Maruti Chitampalli is in Goa to get names of 400 varieties 
> of fiss. He has written many books on nature in marathi. 
> 
> He was falicited by Gomantak Sahitya Manadal today at Minezes Braganza Hall 
> today Monday at 6.00pm.
> 
> He was also President of Marathi Sahitya Samelan in 2005 at Solapur. 
> 
> He is in Goa for last 15 days and extended his stay for another week. 
> 
> Shrikant Vinayak Barve
> 
Like JEEVES Chitampalli must have a copious diet of fish to be such a

precious precocity at age EIGHT!!!

 

Alfred de Tavares

 

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[Goanet] Let's Support Goa's Cause

2009-02-17 Thread Freddy Fernandes
Dear Goanetters,

 

I have said it before and I would like to say it again, Mr. Arwin Mesquita
deserves all the praise for his dedication to the cause of Goa and Goans,
amongst all his busy schedules he always seems to find time for our cause. He
was instrumental in starting a signature campaign that had a good response from
fellow NRG's here in the UAE and world wide. He himself led a group and met the
concerned Authorities in Goa and placed before them our aspirations and our
demands for a truly Goan Goa and we have seen the response from the Director for
NRI Affairs, It may not yield immediate results but he has certainly made our
presence felt. 

Let us all support him in his fight for our beloved Goa. God bless you Arwin and
us too

Freddy Agnelo Fernandes


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[Goanet] This is a good opportunity for youths from villages

2009-02-17 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE
Ministry of Sports and Youth Affairs has invited application for two posts. 1 
Project Officer and 2. Executive Officer.

This post are on contract basis initially for one year. It is under Panchayat 
Youva Khel and Krida Abiyan,

With remunaration of Rs.25000 & 12000 per month respectively. Last date of 
submission of application form is 20/02/09

Full details are available on attached formms given below. 

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[Goanet] Much-awaited Goa Tiatr Academy opens today

2009-02-17 Thread Stephen Fernandes
 
Much-awaited Goa Tiatr Academy opens today 
Tomazinho says it will help improve artistes’ performance 

The inauguration of the much-awaited Goa Tiatr Academy on Monday will mark yet 
another chapter in the 117-year-old history of Konkani Tiatr – the most popular 
drama form in the State. GUILHERME ALMEIDA takes a look at the aims and 
objectives of Tiatr Academy and finds out from the President of the Academy, 
Tomazinho Cardozo the significance of the institution.
A glance at the Constitution of Goa Tiatr Academy reveals that the Academy aims 
at fostering and developing Tiatr and its dances, music, song and literature, 
more particularly Konkani literature in Roman Script
The Academy is expected to play an important role to encourage the setting up 
of institutions to impart training in the art of Tiatr, including instruction 
in acting, direction, stage setting, light effects, sound effects, Tiatr music, 
script writing, production of lays and all other aspects related to Tiatr.
Says President of Goa Tiatr Academy, Tomazinho Cardozo: “No doubt, Tiatrs have 
survived without official support in the Portuguese era and the post-Liberation 
period. But the Academy offers big scope to bring further improvement in this 
theatre form of art by raising the standard on par with other forms of art”.
Promoting Tiatr and carrying out research in the field of Tiatr, its music, 
dances, songs and literature is another important function the Academy will 
perform, besides encouraging exchange of ideas and techniques between various 
part of Goa with regard to dance, music, song and literature related to Tiatr.
Another notable objective of the Academy is to publish literature and establish 
a library and museum. The Academy will establish and maintain its own model 
institutions for studies and research work in Tiatr and its dance, music, song 
and literature.
Encouragement in the development of dramatic activities in Children’s Tiatr in 
its various forms and promoting cultural exchanges in the field of Tiatr and 
its dance, music, song and literature with other States, and organizing Tiatr 
Festivals are amongst the host of objectives of the Goa Tiatr Academy.
The Academy will assist meritorious organizations working in the field of Tiatr 
and encourage and assist production of new Tiatr by awarding prizes and 
distinctions.
What Goa Tiatr Academy President Tomazinho Cardozo has to say on the Academy. 
Excerpts.
How do you feel over the inauguration of the Academy?
I am happy and glad that the Tiatr Academy is finally taking shape. It should 
have happened long ago. Credit must go to Chief Minister, Digambar Kamat as he 
not just promised the Academy, but fulfilled the promise.
In what way would the Academy give a boost to the Tiatr in Goa?
Tiatr is a popular form of art in Goa. Despite commercial success, the Tiatr is 
not well developed as far as stage settings, acting, directions, light effects 
is concerned. The Academy would hold workshops and seminars to the artistes to 
further improve their performance on stage.
Do you have special scheme in mind to tap hidden talent through the Academy?
Yes. A decade-and-half ago, Tiatr produced and directed by local villagers was 
part and parcel of village Feasts. Today, this is not so. We have to revive 
this long tradition through a scheme to encourage villagers to produce Tiatr 
and in the process tap the hidden talents.
It is said that the Government grant of Rs 15 lakhs is a small amount 
considering the work that lies ahead of the Academy.
The Rs 15 lakh grant is an initial grant. I am confident that the Government 
would sanction more grants to implement schemes and program worked out by the 
Academy.
What is your message on the occasion of the inauguration of the Academy?
My message is simple. All Tiatr artistes should come together and support the 
Goa Tiatr Academy in order to protect and preserve the Tiatr for posterity.

 
 
o heraldo
 






[Goanet] The idea of indignation

2009-02-17 Thread Mario Goveia
Sandeep writes:

> When the "Da Vinci Code" movie was released in India, fundamentalist
> Christian groups from all parts of the Country flocked together to
> pressurize the various State Governments to ban the movie.
>
> The bottom line is all fundamentalists pose equal threats to basic
> secular, liberal and democratic values of a modern compatible society.
> The State needs to clamp down on fundamentalists of all hues.  We have
> had enough of the carrot treatment. Each one of them needs to be given
> the stick now.

Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:45:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Samir Kelekar 

I agree with Sandeep that the state has to be ruthless to all kinds of
fundamentalists. And the Congress govt. is guilty of handling Muslim
fundamentalists with kid gloves. And this then makes the people
sympathetic to the Hindu fundamentalists.

One needs to be equally ruthless to all kinds of fundamentalists, even
if it means losing power at that point. In the long term, such a
stand will pay due rewards.

Mario asks:

Doesn't the idea of bogus indignation cut both ways?  In this post we see the 
word "fundamentalist" blythely used as a pejorative, a notion I will challenge 
and qualify.

We see Sandeep and Samir indignant about so-called "fundamentalists", with 
Samir alleging that the Congress Party handles Muslim "fundamentalists" with 
kid gloves, which he then says makes people sympathetic to Hindu 
"fundamentalists", a connection that does not compute in my mind.  Unless I'm 
missing something, any right-minded reaction in this case should be against the 
Congress Party and not in favor of other "fundamentalists".  The last time I 
checked two wrongs don't make a right.

BTW, is someone in a democracy who protests a movie a "fundamentalist", or just 
someone exercising their constitutional right of free speech and assembly??  
The principle of free speech also applies to these so-called fundamentalists, 
just as it applies to anyone else, doesn't it?

Webster's describes "fundamentalist" as "a movement or attitude stressing 
strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles."

Based on this definition, I could call at least three or four members of Goanet 
"atheist fundamentalists".  However, I will refrain from doing so because that 
is their right:-))

Why are someone's fundamental beliefs a problem in any mature society?  I don't 
think fundamentalists per se present any threat to anyone in a free society 
UNLESS they let their beliefs intersect with the property or skin of others.

I grew up with Hindus in MP who stressed "strict and literal adherence to a set 
of basic principles", but respected my adherence to my principles, treated me 
like a brother, and would not hurt a fly.

The problem is not fundamentalism but violence in the cases of Gujarat, Orissa, 
MP, Bihar and Karnataka, and illegal conversions of people against their will 
in cases where Christians are doing so.

I think Samir simply forgot to mention that the BJP can be accused of handling 
violent Hindu "fundamentalists" with kid gloves:-))

Notice, I used the qualifier "violent", which the original article posted by 
Marshall was all about.






[Goanet] Rare gliding lizard found at Valpoi

2009-02-17 Thread samir umarye
-- 
Samir Umarye

BICHOLIM FEB 16: A beautiful Southern Gliding Lizard stuck in the
grease inside the irrigation department's pump house at Murmunem,
Guleli, was rescued by wildlife activists on Saturday evening.

"It could not move as it got stuck in the grease of the pump," Amrut
Singh of Animal Rescue Squad (ARS) told on Monday, adding "Luckily, it
did not suffer any injuries." Draco dussumieri or gliding lizard or
draco as it is referred to was rescued by Anand Melekar, a member of
the Bicholim-based, ARS after he received a call from an Irrigation
department employee, Dananjay Naik.

The lizard was a female and was about 10 cms in length. "Whenever we
tried keeping it on a tree, it changed its colours after some time,"
Singh said. "Lizards of maximum 230 mm length have been found," he
said.

The Draco is found in the western ghats and is also found in Goa in
sanctuary areas. "However, it is rare to see one," Singh said. It is
known to survive on ants. The colour on its wings makes it beautiful
in appearance. It is greyish-brown above, and it has often dark
circles on its back.

"We released the lizard on Sunday after taking its photographs," Singh
said. It was released in the dense forest near Valpoi. "It sped away
and disappeared the moment it was set free," he added.


Re: [Goanet] BARACK OBAMA - THE NEW MESSIAH ? - NOT

2009-02-17 Thread Mervyn Lobo

marlon menezes wrote:
> Unfortunately, I AM WITH Mario now, in that the new US administration is only 
> stoking the fire with its excessive spending. 
> One does not solve the problem of excessive debt by going into even more 
> debt. All it is doing now is replacing private debt 
> with govt debt. I'm putting my money into certain commodities, clean tech and 
> non heavily export dependent economies like India.




 
Marlon,
No country, ever, has created wealth by printing more money while reducing 
taxes. 
I have plenty of $1 bets saying that the US exercise will end up exactly the 
way the Zimbabwe experiment did.

 

Secondly, I am with you and all those who say that Obama (blessed be, his name) 
is not the messiah.
His name says it all.
 
 
Lastly, near zero interest rates does not encourage people to save. 
Without savings, there is no wealth. 
Those who do not understand this will remain economically challenged. When the 
official economic policy of a  
country is to effectively discourage people from saving, all I have to say is, 
"God bless the country."
 
 
Mervyn1650Lobo


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