[Goanet] Will India EVER be a world power

2009-09-09 Thread Antonio Menezes

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A very interesting ;point raised by Messrs. Mario Goveia and Vivian D'Souza.
It would appear that sufficient attention has not been paid  on essential
conditions
for a would be world power so far, by the powers that be in the Indian
polity.

For a nation to be strong , it not only needs economic strength but the most

essential condition is the availability of human capital with wholesome
psyche.
A brahmin may say  he was born ''superior'' therefore India is a superior
nation.
Pryanka Chopra is a beautiful woman therefore all Indian women are
beautiful.  What a fallacy!!!

For three millennia or more, the psyche of the majority of people was
subjected to
psychological terrorism  converting our population into jellies.  Casteist
oppression
has resulted in the general listlessness of the people.

Education helps in places like China, Indonesia, sub-Saharan Africa etc.,
But in
case of India a lot of social upliftment work  will have to be done to
elevate the
Indian psyche to a reasonable level  and this in itself will amount to
centuries of
hard work.Meanwhile, India, I am afraid,  will have to wait for an ideal
situation
to arise, and make a mark as a world power.

Antonio


Re: [Goanet] Goans lived under the :Portuguese

2009-09-09 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo

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How did Goans get on board ships?  Why were the Goans welcomed to British 
India? Wasn't it because they were freed from the taboos that the rest of the 
Indians adhered to? 

I think I read somewhere on this forum that Goans were neither good cooks nor 
good butlers, but were willing to handle anything, hence they were 
accepted/trained by their employers in the jobs that they did.  

Question to AM: Who facilitated the Goans to lose their taboos? 

Then again, as many a traveller will tell you, (well, at least in the 70s they 
would tell you), once you've crossed the border, you knew you were in/out of 
Goa - the very architectural styles, the people's behaviour would be strikingly 
different. Today of course, the demarcation line may have watered down 
considerably. For what its worth, these differences have nothing to do with 
Goans working on board ships / toiling in BI. Another question to AM: What 
caused this difference?   

(PS Please don't reply as my friend, Fernando Rego, once replied: God created 
Goa...)


- Original Message 
From: Antonio Menezes ac.mene...@gmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, 3 September, 2009 4:52:21 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Goans lived under the :Portuguese


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Portuguese influence  in Goa ?

One does not know. It could perhaps be  due to the  gloriosa missao
civilizadora
de Portugal  and its Patriarch  who was ably assisted  by local
sacerdotes
belonging to the highest  Hindu caste.  Here I could introduce my humble
suggestion that it all could have been  due to postal remittances of
thousands
and thousands Goans  who toiled hard in the then British India and also on
board of ships.

Antonio



  
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Re: [Goanet] Goan lived in misery under the Portuguese

2009-09-09 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo

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I think I had mentioned before to T, in a private email, to be aware of what he 
writes and to which audience he directs his writings, that many phrases could 
be taken out of context. Ah well, here's proof. 

It was my personal supposition that the phrase, Goans lived in misery under 
the Portuguese, was probably in the context to obtain more funds/staff from 
the (Jesuit) Authorities to assist them to improve the lot of the poor.  Hence 
my early request. in the forum discussions, to the readers of T's book, to 
describe the context. Now that I can confirm the context, I am happy that my 
supposition is (partly) correct.  Mario, please refrain from adding your 
appendix, thanks. 

Gabriel.


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I was surprised the issue was twisted and distorted in the Goanet discussions 
to suit individual agenda. The Navhind Times reported under that title the 
release of Medieval Goa on 21st August, and to my personal protest with the 
journalist R. Raikar who interviewed me, he said that the title was decided by 
the Editor and not by him.
My reference in the Concluding Chapter of the book is to a Jesuit report of the 
end of the 17th century in Salcete, describing how the great majority of the 
natives lived on bare sustenance.


  
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[Goanet] Daily Grook #508

2009-09-09 Thread Francis Rodrigues

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[Goanet] Tiatr News – Extra

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Tiatr News – Extra
09. 09. 09
 
Guess who written a review on Prince Jacob Tiatr ‘Zait Zage’ ?
It was none other than our Heritage Pundit Prajal Sakardhande of Aires-Prajal 
brutal 
attack fame. ‘Look and think before it is too late’ is the message of the tiatr 
and which 
is a must-see for all Goans, says Prajal in the end.
 
 
Recently 26th Aug. 2009,  Irineu Gonsalves from Verna launched his new Home 
Care products (Toiletries, cleaning agents, detergent etc)  at Pai Tiatrist 
Hall.  On the 
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Wilmix-Sharon, Agostino, Selvy, Brian, Marcus, Bachan, Lawry, Tuen, 
Anathony San, Peter-Roshan-Benzer, Amir, Chico, Bhuska, Larissa etc etc
Besides, there were following from the Ministers:
CM Kamat, Cherchill, Joaquim, Filip Neri etc.
Also Dr. Francis Colaco, VM Prabhudesai etc.
Whether all turned up or not that I don’t know but few qtr page colour ad were 
appearing in Herald.
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Minin de Bandar coming up with 100 VORSAM
Prev. one Dha LakH
 
Anil-Olga new tiatr will be HE GHAVE TUMCHE
Prev. Ek Dhagho Sukacho
 
 
Mario Menezes next tiat would be BEIMAN KIR
Prev. being Kal Aiz Faleam
 
Other currently showing tiatr are:
THAPOT  by Roseferns
ZAIT ZAGE by Prince Jacob
TO AMKAM VISORLO by Jacint Vaz/Ben Evamgelisto
DEVACHE VHOD UPKAR by Mariano Fernandes
MAHANAND MUNIS VO SOITAN by Tony Dias
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KITEAK BHURGUIM AMCHI GIRESTKAI Mini Mario
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[Goanet] [JudeSundayReflections] 24th Sunday of the Year

2009-09-09 Thread Jude Botelho

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5-Sep-2009

Dear Friend,

Someone has said, “In life it is not what we take up, but what we give up, that 
makes us rich.” We can go through life trying to get as much as possible, or we 
can take every opportunity to give as much as we can. The spirit of self-denial 
and self-sacrifice marks the life of truly great men and women. What we believe 
in and the values that we profess are tested and revealed only through our 
actions. Words are empty unless we back them with deeds! Let’s have a 
grace-filled weekend asking for the strength to reveal our faith in action! Fr. 
Jude

Sunday Reflections: Twenty-fourth Sunday of the year ‘Our Faith is seen in 
deeds!  13-Sep-2009
Isaiah 50: 5-9;       James 2: 14- 18;       Mark 8: 27-35;

In today’s first reading the suffering servant of Yahweh despite the opposition 
of his fellow human beings believes that he will be vindicated by God. The 
suffering servant suffers not merely in spite of his innocence but precisely 
because of it and further because of his preaching and teaching mission.

Readiness to Face Death
When the Berkenhead sank, Alexander Russell, a young officer aged seventeen, 
was ordered to command one of the boats which carried women and children. As 
they were pushing off, a sailor who was drowning clasped the side of the boat, 
but there was no room for even one more. A woman on the boat cried: “Save him! 
He is my husband.” Russell rose, jumped clear of the boat, and amidst a chorus 
of “God bless you!” he sank in the water, which was full of sharks and was seen 
no more, the sailor being pulled in to take his place.
Anthony Castle in ‘More Quotes and Anecdotes’

In today’s second reading James, here insists on the necessity for action for 
the Christian. Our faith must find its expression in service to others, 
especially the needy. The worship of God and service to others are inseparable, 
they are like two sides of the same coin. Works than emanate merely from 
fulfilling the law are fruitless, our works should be the result of our love 
for God and his people. James is talking of the fruit of the seed of God’s word 
which must issue in daily life.

Double Lives
G. K. Chesterton has a story about a popular philanthropist. The main reason 
for his popularity was his unfailing good humour. No one bothered to ask how he 
managed to be always happy. They assumed he was born an optimist. But then one 
day he was found dead in mysterious circumstances. Foul play was immediately 
suspected. However, the case completely baffled the police. Eventually it was 
Chesterton’s unlikely detective, Fr Browne, who solved the case. His verdict – 
the man committed suicide. At first the people refused to accept Fr Browne’s 
verdict. They couldn’t imagine how such a happy man could commit suicide. But 
then it emerged that there was a serious side to the funny man. The man who 
made others laugh was in fact a deeply depressed man. But he could never tell 
anyone how he really felt. The man had two lives. One open, seen and known by 
all, the other secret, and known only to himself. In public he was the man who 
smiled at everyone. But
 in private he was wounded and desperate. He felt he had to live up to people’s 
expectations in return for their attention and esteem. He was never able to be 
himself. Finally, he realized that his whole life was based on a lie. The 
strain of trying to maintain the public image became so great that he could no 
longer cope with it. So he committed suicide. 
Flor McCarthy in ‘Sunday and Holy Day Liturgies’

In today’s gospel we see Jesus teaching the crowds and at the same time trying 
to form his own disciples. He has come to reveal God’s plan of salvation and 
his own part in God’s plan. He tries to see if they are aware of his true 
identity and purpose in life, so he asks them: “Who do people say that I am?” 
The disciples tell him that some believe he is John the Baptist, some others 
say, he is Elijah, and still others believe that he is one of the prophets. The 
answers are perhaps flattering, they acknowledge that he is no ordinary human 
being; he is one of the prophets or certainly one of the greatest of the 
prophets. But Jesus needs a clearer answer. So he asks a direct question: “And 
you, who do you say that I am?” Peter on behalf of the apostles makes that 
solemn statement; “You are the Christ, the Son of God!” Peter certainly was not 
aware of the full impact of his confession. Faith had made him pronounce Jesus 
as the Christ of God.
 Jesus accepts 

[Goanet] NEWS: Maharashtra in fire-fighting mode

2009-09-09 Thread Goanet News

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Maharashtra in fire-fighting mode
8 Sep 2009, 0425 hrs IST, ET Bureau

MUMBAI: The Maharashtra government on Monday launched a major
fire-fighting exercise to contain communal riots in Western
Maharashtra.

After imposing curfew in three towns in the region, the state
administration detained several leaders from the saffron camp,
including senior BJP leader Gopinath Munde, as they tried to reach
communally tense towns of Sangli and Miraj.

These cities have been under curfew for the past two days. The
neighbouring textile town of Ichalkaranji too has been brought under
curfew after incidences of arson and assaults were reported on Monday
evening.

The trouble started on September 3, when some pro-Hindutva
organisations tried to raise an arch on the immersion procession route
depicting the killing of Afzal Khan, the Mughal Sardar in the court of
Aurangzeb, by the Maratha king Shivaji. A section of the society
objected to it following which communal clashes broke out in the area.
In protest, Ganesh mandals did not immerse the idols.

The organisers allegedly also held a “victory rally” near the arch,
depicting all the followers of Chhatrapati Shivaji in saffron and
Afzal Khan supporters in green.

Sensing trouble, local police summoned about two dozen important
Muslim community leaders and requested them to ignore the
developments. “But, as it always happens, some miscreants exploited
the situation to give it a communal twist especially in view of the
recently-concluded Ganesh Utsav festival, the ongoing Ramzan month and
the ensuing assembly elections,” Shendgle said.

Worried about the communal flare up, the district administration
imposed curfew on Sunday. Sangli Superintendent of Police (SP) Krishna
Prakash said the curfew will be in force till 2 pm on Tuesday. About
300 people from both communities have been arrested, the police said.

On Monday, Shiv Sena leaders Neelam Gorhe, Diwakar Raote and Parshuram
Uparkar were arrested for allegedly flouting curfew orders. The police
had, on Sunday, prevented BJP legislators Prakash Shendge and Madhu
Chavan from entering Sangli. In Mumbai, police detained senior BJP
leader Gopinath Munde at the airport before he could board a flight to
Kolhapur. Mr Munde made the best of the opportunity by launching a
sit-in at the airport. Surrounded by hundreds of BJP supporters, the
agitation created a ruckus at the airport for quite some time. Mr
Munde was later released. He then proceeded to Miraj by road.

The incidence has come as a major embarrassment for the Congress-NCP
government since the state home minister Jayant Patil, along with many
veterans like RR Patil and Patangrao Kadam, come from Sangli. The
failure of the government to contain the situation has left the
government worried about the political fall-out ahead of the state
assembly elections next month.


[Goanet] Of coconut trees and village roads

2009-09-09 Thread Jason Keith Fernandes

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Dear Fred,

I'm glad you raise the issue of the fast disappearing sight of coconut trees
that lined Goan village roads. Indeed, the coconut palm framed Goan road is
as much a part of Goan heritage as the famed mansions of Goa, and as much a
part of the tourist package as the beach.

I too have noticed for sometime that the coconut trees are simply
disappearing. Given that it is a part of the charm of the place, it seems
logical that the  Tourism Department tke the initiative to get these trees
replanted across the State, even if only for aesthetic reasons.

J
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[Goanet] Read 'Discrimination against Locals I' by Nandkumar Kamat

2009-09-09 Thread lyrawmn

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Goanet:
 
I urge you to read Part I of  Nandkumar Kamat's series titled :
 Discrimination against Locals  I in the Opinion section of the Navhind Times.
 
http://www.navhindtimes.in/opinions/2735-discrimination-against-locals-i
 
Dr. Kamat, Goa's preeminent journalist/writer, and scientist,  has been 
sounding the alarm on the ecological destruction of Goa, for ages.
Know what is in store for Goan residents.
 
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[Goanet] Nativity Feast Celebrations at Our Lady of Rosary Church - Daijiworld Media Network - Doha (SP)

2009-09-09 Thread Mario

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Daijiworld Media Network - Doha (SP)

 

Doha, Sep 9: The celebration of the feast of the birth of Our Lady has
always been a uniting factor for the Konkani-speaking community in
Doha-Qatar. Under the guidance of Fr Gaspar Fernandes, the spiritual
caretaker of the Konkani community, and the leadership of the Holy Rosary
Konkani Community Council having representatives from both Goa and
Mangalore, the feast was celebrated at the church of Our Lady of the Rosary
in Qatar. At 5.30 pm on Tuesday September 8, thousands of devotees gathered
at the Church. The Holy mass in Konkani commenced with a candle light
procession led by the Pirgintt, Alfred Sequeira and Murddom families of the
feast.

 

The main celebrant of the mass was Fr Andrew Leo D'Souza, vicar of St
Joseph's Seminary, Mangalore, who was also the preacher during the feast
novenas. Father Andrew, in his homily, preached the importance of having
Mother Mary as our spiritual Mother and called upon each family to live the
Christian values.  The preaching during the nine days of the novena's along
with the healing session, was very much liked and appreciated by the
community, as Fr Andrew reflected the life of Mary and the importance of the
word of God in the life of a Christian.

 

Before the final prayers, Fr Peter P M, the newly appointed parish priest,
conveyed his wishes to all those who had gathered for the celebration, which
was followed by the vote of thanks by Ronnie Vaz. The newsletter of the
Konkani Community, 'Ekvott', was released on the occasion by the parish
priest. Eddie Sequeira, editor of the newsletter, was also present for the
release.

 

After the final blessings, a birthday cake was cut, as the crowd happily
sang the birthday song in honour of Mother Mary.  Children showered flowers
and the new corn was distributed to all those present, along with cake and
juice. As the celebration ended, everybody was found to be busy, wishing
each other 'Bhagi Monthi Fest'. It was really a wonderful scene of
brotherhood and sharing of common feelings. 

 



[Goanet] A QUESTION FOR MELGOAN OSCAR LOBO.

2009-09-09 Thread Ruby Goes

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Dear Oscar Lobo,

Nice to hear about your celebration in Melbourne.

Is there any branch of your organisation which finances/supports any 
charity/projects/other in Goa?
Thanks,

rubygoes
 
 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 21:19:41 -0400
 From: Oscar Lobo oscarlo...@optusnet.com.au
 To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org
 Subject: [Goanet] 7TH WORLD GOA DAY 2009 WITH A TWIST IN MELBOURN!

 
 Dear All
 
 
 Mogal Goemkar Bhavano ani Bhoinnano!
 
 The 7th World Goa Day in Melbourne was celebrated with style as Goans and 
 their 
 friends were welcomed by the Melgoans team wearing their name badges with 
 greetings 
 Dev Bori Sanz Dium - (Good Evening).
 
 People happily made their entrance to a hall that was decorated with Palm 
 Leaves, 
 pictures of coconut Trees and pineapples around the hall. A few Goans came up 
 to us 
 and said: Oscarbab amee Goeyan assa koshem dista!! (It looks like we are in 
 Goa ) 
 For many it brought nostalgic memories of Goa . The ambience was lifted with 
 coloured lights at the entrance and in the hall with tables decorated to 
 expect a 
 great night in the making. One of our Goan Hindu brothers commented Makam 
 borem 
 dislem aiz! (I feel very nice today).
 
 The event was well attended by a large number of new Goan arrivals in 
 Melbourne and 
 our usual Goan crowd that have been our supporters since 2003 and to whom we 
 extend 
 our thank you! We had a good mix of young and those young at heart. The 8 
 piece live 
 band Soul Mates led by Mr. Joe Fernandes (amcho Goenkar) and assisted by 
 crooner 
 Natasha Rodrigues pleased many people that night.
 
 The members of the Australian Goan Association Inc and their friends attended 
 in 
 large numbers. On a similar vein we had a few members from the Goans Overseas 
 Association.
 
 Melgoans and Australian Goan Association Inc., share one common goal that is: 
 We do 
 not restrict people from joining us unlike others who are yet to see the 
 light 
 albeit 3 decades of existence. Yes, the mouth watering Xacuti and Sorpotel 
 was the 
 order of the day along with other dishes including Vegetarian dishes.
 
 As Goa is a part of India , the Indian Banking Division of the Commonwealth 
 Bank 
 sponsored a bollywood dance that made people spellbound. It was a fitting 
 tribute 
 and a JAI HO 2009 WORLD GOA DAY; this was well received following the fame 
 of 
 Slumdog Millionaire.
 
 We have been pleased to receive phone calls and numerous e-mails thanking us 
 for 
 putting up a show that was enjoyed by all. One well read Goan was overheard 
 saying 
 to the other How does Melgoans afford to put up a show for $35.00 per person 
 with 
 such a grand hall, buffet, live music, floor show, table decorations and 
 above all 
 no membership fees all this plus 6 hour entertainment? to which another Goan 
 replied 
 Todeh Goenkar muntat pundra pundra ponchviss and that may be the reason why 
 we 
 have people always talking about Melgoans in private parties in Melbourne .
 
 I seize this opportunity to thank our valued patrons for making this event a 
 great 
 success and I am sorry that 111 people had to be kept on waiting list as they 
 tried 
 to book tickets at the last moment.
 
 Kindly forward this e-mail to all those who came along in your group/s. My 
 very 
 special thanks to the people who came in big groups 20 plus.
 
 Let's live today to love tomorrow and make Melbourne the Place to be 
 contributing 
 our services to our new homeland.
 
 
 
 Warm Regards
 
 Oscar C. Lobo
 Co-ordinator
 World Goa Day 
 Director - Melgoans - an events management company with a Twist.
 
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[Goanet] Oud Perfume Oil from the Agarwood Tree

2009-09-09 Thread Gabe Menezes

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[Goanet] G'bye Goa - Goans worldwide

2009-09-09 Thread Gilbert Lawrence

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Very likely, they (spicy hot Asians) were around. But getting off the RAF jet 
after some  'racy maneuvers, you overlooked them, going straight for the 
bier-haus. And there, were the blond German Frauleins carrying eight jugs of 
Pilsner beer between her hands and her bosoms. Get the  picture?

Do you think you could have forgotten specifics of those days?
In case you have, here is a description from their website many great German 
Pilsners available.  They are crisp, refreshing, and have a delightful hoppy 
bite. 

Regards, GL


 Gabe Menezes wrote:

How appropriate, a hot tot Goykar, plying her trade in icy cold Iceland!
Where were they, when I was a frustrated young man in the Air Force in Germany?


  


[Goanet] OFFTOPIC: How to spot a quack and a quacky website?

2009-09-09 Thread Santosh Helekar

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Goanet is being subjected to a lot of spam with quack products and dubious 
information regarding cancer and health lately. Here is a useful tool - The 
Quackometer - for Goanetters, to find out whether an author of a forwarded or 
copied and pasted article is a quack, and whether a forwarded link or website 
is a quacky website:

http://www.quackometer.net/?page=quackometer

Cheers,

Santosh



  



[Goanet] Goans lived under the Portuguese

2009-09-09 Thread Antonio Menezes

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If the slight advantage that Goans at the beginning of the 20th century
enjoyed over their
counterparts in India was due ONLY to the '''  bom conselho e boas palavras
''' they were
subjected to,  at every sunday morning harangues,  it is obvious that Goans
would have
enjoyed the same standards of living  right from the 17 th century itself
and subsequently
by the 20 th century the standard of living of poor Goan masses would have
been at par
with that enjoyed by the metropolitan citizens  of Lisbon.

Antonio


Re: [Goanet] G'bye Goa - Goans worldwide

2009-09-09 Thread eric pinto

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  Leera Pinto, Assagao, US Army Base, Berlin, circa 1965 : Quite a doll, Gabe, 
ask neighbour, Roland !   Eric.


 Gabe Menezes wrote:

How appropriate, a hot tot Goykar, plying her trade in icy cold Iceland!
Where were they, when I was a frustrated young man in the Air Force in Germany?


      



  


Re: [Goanet] Healthcare in America v/s Goa

2009-09-09 Thread Santosh Helekar

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Goans are quite smart. So please don't listen to anyone tell you that they 
cannot think on their feet.

Please also don't let anybody deceive you with false information regarding 
public health. In line with the corrections that Bosco posted separately, the 
top 10 causes of death in India do not include cancer. The claim earlier that 
one in three deaths are due to cancer is bogus. Also irresponsible and false is 
the blanket claim that cancer is incurable. 

Here are the top 10 causes of death in India, all of which are curable and/or 
preventable:

Ischemic heart disease -                 15% of all deaths
Lower respiratory infections -           11% of all deaths
Cerebrovascular disease -                 7% of all deaths
Perinatal conditions -                    7% of all deaths
Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease -   5% of all deaths
Diarrheal diseases -                      4% of all deaths
Tuberculosis -                            4% of all deaths
HIV/AIDS -                                3% of all deaths
Road traffic accidents -                  2% of all deaths
Self-inflicted injuries -                 2% of all deaths

The death rate from cancer is about 1.5% of all deaths. Apollo Cancer 
Institutes and other prominent cancer institutes have reported that with modern 
scientific medical treatment and latest technologies of early detection almost 
70 - 80% of cancer patients can be cured.

Cheers,

Santosh



--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Ivo da C.Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote:

 Something you may not encounter in Goa.
 Thinking on your feet.
 Now you know why the cost of healthcare is so high.:=))
 Regards, Gilbert
 
 ***Yes, Dr.Gilbert. It is a delicate issue that of health
 care. We in Goa are complaining that it is so costly to be
 in the hospital for a few days. Drugs are costly,
 physicians' fees are high. In fact, life is costly. It is
 costly to become sick. People are frightened by H1N1 Flu
 (Swine Flu). They are also afraid to be diagnosed of cancer
 and of other incurable diseases. You should invent some
 drugs for these diseases... Sodium bicarbonate may not help
 much, but can palliate, as chicken soup can be adjunct
 therapy for viral fever (which drugs cannot cure). Hoping
 for better solutions.
 Regards.
 Fr.Ivo
 



  


Re: [Goanet] Will India EVER be a world power

2009-09-09 Thread Mervyn Lobo

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Antonio Menezes wrote:
 For three millennia or more, the psyche of the majority of people was
 subjected to psychological terrorism converting our population into jellies.  
 Casteist oppression has resulted in the general listlessness of the people.
-snip-
 Education helps in places like China, Indonesia, sub-Saharan Africa etc.,
 But in case of India a lot of social upliftment work  will have to be done to
 elevate the Indian psyche to a reasonable level  and this in itself will 
 amount 
 to centuries of hard work.Meanwhile, India, I am afraid,  will have to wait 
 for 
 an ideal situation to arise, and make a mark as a world power.




Antonio,
The economic reports I read today take pains to point out that India and China
had the biggest and most vibrant economies in the world from the time of Christ
to around 200 years ago. 


With the economies of both these countries being reverted to the hands of 
native entrepreneurs, western economist have no doubt that both countries
will regain their economic superiority this century. Some predict even within 
the 
next two decades.


Sitting here in Canada, the other delight is to watch countries like the US, 
Germany and France print money and use it to prop up failed industries, 
all in the name of creating employment for their residents. This strategy of
state sponsored employment is what led to the death of innovation and,
ultimately, failed economies.


The BRIC countries are already pushing for a monetary system that is not
dependant on the whims of countries with failed monetary and banking systems.
The BRIC countries know that when the US is forced to devalue its currency, 
it will effectively transfer the worlds wealth to itself as foreigners are now 
the 
main holders of US debt.


Last week, the UN called for a new world reserve currency.  
We do live in interesting times.

Mervyn1650Lobo


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[Goanet] Health care horror stories

2009-09-09 Thread Mario Goveia

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When I hear certain Goanetters propose a government run health care system for 
the USA, then see report after report of horror stories coming out of countries 
with socialized medicine, it makes me wonder what these people's motives may 
be.  It certainly cannot be goodwill towards the people of the USA.  For 
example, Britain has had over 60 years to get it right, and failed to do so as 
the situation seems to be getting worse.

The USA needs to find a way to help 15 million people who only have access to 
emergency medicine today, not screw up what the other 300 million have, which 
85% say they are satisfied with.

Example 1:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6156076/Daughter-claims-father-wrongly-placed-on-controversial-NHS-end-of-life-scheme.html

Excerpt:

Rosemary Munkenbeck says her father Eric Troake, who entered hospital after 
suffering a stroke, had fluid and drugs withdrawn and she claims doctors wanted 
to put him on morphine until he passed away under a scheme for dying patients 
called the Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP). 

Example 2:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211950/Premature-baby-left-die-doctors-mother-gives-birth-just-days-22-week-care-limit.html

Excerpt:

Doctors left a premature baby to die because he was born two days too early, 
his devastated mother claimed yesterday. 

Sarah Capewell begged them to save her tiny son, who was born just 21 weeks and 
five days into her pregnancy  -  almost four months early.
 
They ignored her pleas and allegedly told her they were following national 
guidelines that babies born before 22 weeks should not be given medical 
treatment. 

Example 3:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6127514/Sentenced-to-death-on-the-NHS.html
 
Excerpt:

Patients with terminal illnesses are being made to die prematurely under an NHS 
scheme to help end their lives, leading doctors have warned. 
[end of excerpt]




[Goanet] Latest update after Swiss Bank has agreed to disclose the funds.......

2009-09-09 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad

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On above subject I'm receiving following message through e-mail. On going
through the message the first think that came to my mind is whether this is
initiated by political party(ies)? If so which party? The next questions
that came to my mind are: Irrespective of party who is after this campaign,
is it legal or illegal money? Is it right to park such a massive fund in
foreign bank(s)?  Whether it's legal or illegal why benefit foreign banks by
parking such a huge sum  why not our national banks? Why should India
government not try and get the details of account holders and equally try to
get the money back to India? And so on...

Can you all share your views on this issue? Received message on above
subject is appended here below. 

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad



Our Indians' Money - 70, 00,000
Crores Rupees In Swiss Bank 

1) Yes, 70 lakhs crores rupees of India are lying in Switzerland banks. This
is the highest amount lying outside any country, from amongst 180 countries
of the world, as if India is the champion of Black Money. 

2) Swiss Government has officially written to Indian Government that they
are willing to inform the details of holders of 70 lakh crore rupees in
their Banks, if Indian Government officially asks them. 

3) On 22-5-08, this news has already been published in The Times of India
and other Newspapers based on Swiss Government's official letter to Indian
Government. 

4) But the Indian Government has not sent any official enquiry to
Switzerland for details of money which has been sent outside India between
1947 to 2008.. The opposition party is also equally not interested in doing
so because most of the amount is owned by politicians and it is every
Indian's money. 

5) This money belongs to our country. From these funds we can repay 13 times
of our country's foreign debt. The interest alone can take care of the
Center's yearly budget. People need not pay any taxes and we can pay Rs. 1
lakh to each of 45 crore poor families. 

6) Let us imagine, if Swiss Bank is holding Rs. 70 lakh Crores, then how
much money is lying in other 69 Banks? How much they have deprived the
Indian people? Just think, if the Account holder dies, the bank becomes the
owner of the funds in his account. 


7) Are these people totally ignorant about the philosophy of Karma? What
will this ill-gotten wealth do to them and their families when they own/use
such money, generated out of corruption and exploitation? 

8) Indian people have read and have known about these facts. But the
helpless people have neither time nor inclination to do anything in the
matter. This is like a new freedom struggle and we will have to fight
this. 

9) This money is the result of our sweat and blood.. The wealth generated
and earned after putting in lots of mental and physical efforts by Indian
people must be brought back to our country. 

10) As a service to our motherland and your contribution to this struggle,
please circulate at least 10 copies of this note amongst your friends and
relatives and convert it into a mass movement.







[Goanet] Will India EVER be a world power

2009-09-09 Thread Mario Goveia

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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:47:51 +0530
From: Antonio Menezes ac.mene...@gmail.com

A very interesting ;point raised by Messrs. Mario Goveia and Vivian D'Souza.  
It would appear that sufficient attention has not been paid  on essential 
conditions for a would be world power so far, by the powers that be in the 
Indian polity.

Mario adds:

Thanks for joining in this important topic, Antonio, which too many Indians 
take for granted or completely ignore.

It is high time that India's opinion leaders turned their attention to quality 
of life issues including public cleanliness and civic order.  Civic 
carelessness should be curbed by each Indian taking responsibility for their 
own actions and surroundings.

Anyone from India who has travelled abroad would notice the difference 
immediately.  People in countries with a higher quality of life treat each 
other and their public surroundings with much more respect than in countries 
with a lower quality of life.  Believe me, there are countries that are as bad 
or worse than India when it comes to civic carelessness, but those are not the 
ones India needs to look to for inspiration.

On Goanet, Rajan and Joe have done yeoman's work and posted pictures showing 
some of the blight that is taking place in what is probably the nation with the 
highest level of natural brain power in the world, but don't give a sh.., 
...er, hoot, about anyone but themselves in public.  Pretty amazing when you 
think about it.

On the Indian streets there is no concept of right of way as we see it in 
every civilized country.  From pedestrians to vehicles the most brazen rule the 
roost in India, and the devil take everyone else.

Why can't each driver start by using turn signals and not cutting in front of 
cross traffic and others who clearly have the right of way, bringing them to a 
screeching halt.  What the hell is THAT?  You couldn't drive like that in any 
civilized country.

No one who does not have their taxes deducted at the source pays their taxes 
honestly in India.  Millions of small business people in India live lavish 
personal lives while showing tax losses and bribing any tax collectors who may 
catch up with them.  This is devastating to a still-poor country that needs the 
revenue for economic development.

Sad to say, but India is a nation of tax cheats and scofflaws.

When I posted a speech made earlier this year in Hyderabad by Abdul Kalam 
asking Indians to improve their civic sense, which was widely circulated in 
India but not widely reported abroad, there were some on Goanet who took 
umbrage and insinuated that the speech was a fraud, which was a shocking 
response to this rare call to Indians by a respected national leader.



[Goanet] Re: Cancer Decisions - Simoncini's Bicarbonate Treatment For Cancer

2009-09-09 Thread Mario Goveia

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From: Ivo da C.Souza

 At the beginning of the 1900s, one person out of 100 died of cancer;
  today it is one out of three.
 We foresee that within a few years one out of two people will die of 
 cancer.

Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 00:12:42 -0400
From: Bosco D'Mello bos...@canada.com

The top 10 causes of death from the World Health Organization:

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs310/en/index.html

Mario responds:

Once again, we see the absolute garbage on cancer that Fr. Ivo has been posting.

We are also seeing a relentless barrage of unscientific and untested 
alternative medical information from Con Menezes as Santosh has begun to 
point out.

Why are these non-physicians posting information on serious issues like 
medicine and medical treatments from sources that promote medical information 
that has not been reviewed or tested by any respectable medical authority, that 
could lead to serious health problems for anyone who thinks this information is 
medically legitimate?

For example, if anyone out there believes Fr. Ivo's blanket garbage that cancer 
is incurable and acts accordingly by delaying testing and treatment, their 
lives may be put in jeopardy.

NONE of the alternative medical information that Con is posting has been 
tested by any credible authority.  NO ONE should believe any of this 
information without checking with a legitimate physician - some of it may be 
harmless, some of it may be harmful for your health.  No one really knows 
within any probability of effectiveness.

A PRIEST with no medical training cannot be allowed to spread such falsehoods 
in a public forum without rebuttal by medical scientists like Santosh and the 
other practicing physicians who are members of Goanet, many of whom are 
strangely silent.




Re: [Goanet] Healthcare in America v/s Goa

2009-09-09 Thread J. Colaco jc

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Dear Fr Ivo,

I believe that the good Dr Gilbert was actually referring to the
principle of 'medical confidentiality' - not what you have referred to
below

good wishes

jc

 Ivo da C.Souza icso...@bsnl.in

Yes, Dr.Gilbert. It is a delicate issue that of health care. We in Goa
are complaining that it is so costly to be in the hospital for a few
days. Drugs are costly, physicians' fees are high. In fact, life is
costly. It is costly to become sick.


[Goanet] Climate scientists confused by the climate

2009-09-09 Thread Mario Goveia

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I wonder what Marlon has to say about this contretemps?  I'm sure he'll think 
of something.  But one of the world's top climate modellers, Mojib Latif, an 
author for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change no less, the body that 
has been insisting that the world is going to hell in a handbasket, is totally 
confused by the climate and honest enough to admit it.

But Mr. Latif is not giving up.  He says the world MAY cool for years to come, 
but THEN it will get back to what his climate models, unproven and unprovable 
and speculative formulas that attempt to predict the long term future, have 
said all along MAY happen.

Thus, according to his school of thought, BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY SAY MAY HAPPEN 
BUT HAS NOT BEEN HAPPENING SINCE 1998 LIKE THEY SAID IT WOULD, we must continue 
to turn all the western economies on their heads, while India, China, Russia, 
Brazil, Mexico and other less developed countries go their merry way, which I 
have called the growing smoking section in a world some would like to see as 
a non-smoking world, a.k.a. one in which we stop producing more greenhouse 
gases which they blame the climate on.

THIS is what passes for akkal in some sophisticated circles.

Tsk, tsk, tsk.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17742-worlds-climate-could-cool-first-warm-later.html?DCMP=OTC-rssnsref=online-news

Excerpt:

Forecasts of climate change are about to go seriously out of kilter. One of the 
world's top climate modellers said Thursday we could be about to enter one or 
even two decades during which temperatures cool.

People will say this is global warming disappearing, he told more than 1500 
of the world's top climate scientists gathering in Geneva at the UN's World 
Climate Conference.

I am not one of the sceptics, insisted Mojib Latif of the Leibniz Institute 
of Marine Sciences at Kiel University, Germany. However, we have to ask the 
nasty questions ourselves or other people will do it.

Few climate scientists go as far as Latif, an author for the Intergovernmental 
Panel on Climate Change. But more and more agree that the short-term prognosis 
for climate change is much less certain than once thought.

[end of excerpt]



[Goanet] Interactive session of Vaidya R. P. Bhide “SUPER ASPECT OF AYURVEDEEY RAS-SHASTRA” on Sun day September 20 2009 10.00 to 12.00 at Goa Science Centre , Miramar. This session is ‘Free of Cost’

2009-09-09 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE

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Viadya Chudamani Raghuvir (Pramod) Pandurang Bhide was working as Govt. Medical 
officer in the year 1976 to 2004 at Ratnagiri, Maharastra. 

After completing his B.Sc  (Biology and Chemistry) (Bombay University)  in 1967 
he Joined Astang Ayurved Mahavidyalay. His  Thesis for M.S.A.M. (Doctorate  
equivalent degree) at Ayurved Vidyapith, Jamnagar was “Malla Bhasma Vidyaniyam” 
based on Rasashastra. 

Vaidya Bhide has given relief to over 300 AID’s patient and successfully 
handled many other cases which were considered not curable by Modern Science. 

We have arranged  interactive session of Vaidya R. P. Bhide “SUPER ASPECT OF 
AYURVEDEEY RAS-SHASTRA” on Sunday September 20 2009 10.00 to 12.00 at Goa 
Science Centre, Miramar. This session is ‘Free of Cost’ only for Doctors. 

Interested Doctors may contact Shrikant Barve Convener at shri8...@gmail.com 

A special session for public on Ayurved by Vaidya Bhide will be held at Goa 
Science Centre, Miramar on Sunday 20th, 2009. 

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Re: [Goanet] G'bye Goa - Goans worldwide II

2009-09-09 Thread Valmiki Faleiro


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Dear Mervyn,

I could not agree with you and your friends more. The remarkable
brinkmanship at this forum has stopped me reading/participating in
debates except those under the same subject-line of my posts or
from people I know are level headed. Sad, but true. And if confronted,
these very same Quixotes will not stop blaming the list administrators
who put in voluntary work, with great personal sacrifice as I can imagine,
to keep the list going, for the ills of their own making.

Rgds, v


- Original Message - 
From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca

To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] G'bye Goa - Goans worldwide II


Hi v,
Every-time I try 
and convince them to contribute to Goanet, the reply I get goes along these 
lines, You got to be kidding, if I contribute the only replies will be from negative 
people who have too much time on their hands. This is a serious problem here 
and is badly hampering the quality of net group we could have.


[Goanet] Pimps, peddlers and more --- Goans can't enter Goan restaurant

2009-09-09 Thread Samir Kelekar

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Nandkumar's shocking revelation that Goans cant enter a Goan restaurant
http://www.navhindtimes.in/opinions/2735-discrimination-against-locals-i
only
brings the truth out.

I dont know what kind of an MLA this Calangute MLA is. He better resign,
if he cant cancel the licence of this restaurant.

I am well capable of getting 1000 people from the
state of Karnataka into Goa and enter this Indian restaurant. But
before that, I would urge Goans in Goa to join with me.

Also, I would request the Goa govt. to cancel the licence of
this restaurant.

Anyone has Nandkumar's contacts?

samir



  


[Goanet] Goa Sudharop: Annual appeal

2009-09-09 Thread George Pinto

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From:  Goa Sudharop, a USA based non-profit organization. 
Re:2009 Annual Donation Appeal.

We greatly appreciate your help in raising funds for our projects this year. 
See www.goasudharop.org for more info. on our organization. Please donate 
generously.

We are requesting donations to fund the following:

Youth Scholarships:
Cash awards for books/tuition fees for 10 needy students going to schools and 
colleges in Goa that meet the GS criteria for the underprivileged.

Laptop program:
Purchase 10 laptops for students from the rural areas of Goa going to Goa 
colleges.

Free Medical help for seniors, orphans:
Sponsor free Medical help for seniors, orphans, disadvantaged  underprivileged 
members of the society. Purchase medical supplies and coordinate medical staff 
providing volunteer services.

Provide transportation for Senior Homes and Orphanages:
GS wishes to initially purchase a van that will be used for medical 
appointments for seniors to facilities in the North and South of Goa that meet 
the GS criteria.

TOTAL APPEAL: US $20,000 or approximately Rupees 10,00,000

Please donate generously. Any amount is welcome. Donations are tax-deductible 
for USA residents. Please send a check payable to Goa Sudharop and mail to 
ACARIA ALMEIDA, Treasurer, P.O. Box 6144, MORAGA, CALIFORNIA, 94570, USA. 
Phone: 925-324-0513. Or you can donate via PayPal at www.goasudharop.org (click 
on the DONATE button).

Please pass this message on to your family and friends.

Thank you to the volunteers, supporters, donors and well-wishers of Goa 
Sudharop.

Shekhar Ambe, President
Dinker Bir, Vice-President
Acaria Almeida, Treasurer
Neufito Fernandes, General Secretary


[Goanet] USA - the land of plenty.....

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Dear Goankars,

USA has a reputation for being the land of PLENTY...yes, 
plenty. murderers, criminals, rapists, etc.

All of us should pray for the USA and the Goan migrants who go there in search 
of a better life.
=

Message: 10
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:00:32 +
From: Naguesh Bhatcar 
From the Herald website
PANJIM, SEPT 7
It was the first day of work for 54-year-old Joe
Fernandes at The Siesta Food Mart in North Houston, USA. He came
face-to-face with three gunmen who robbed him and then murdered him.
The entire incident was caught on the surveillance video, but the three
gunmen were masked and covered from head to toe to avoid recognition. 
They




[Goanet] Test of the credibility of the talk at Goa Science Centre

2009-09-09 Thread Santosh Helekar

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It is disappointing that the Goa Science Centre is allowing unscientific 
nonsense to be promoted on its premises without a serious scientific rebuttal. 

I applied the Quackometer search test to the speaker named in the following 
post. Here are the results:

http://www.quackometer.net/?suspectquack=R.+P.+Bhide

He received a quack canard score of 8.

The full quote is:

QUOTE
This name appears on web sites with serious amounts Quackery!

Possible Quackery pages found:

ayurvedaonline : Messages : 15941-15970 of 15999
... April 2009) Superaspects Of Ayurvedeeya Rasashastra Vaidya R.P.Bhide 
Rasamruta ... We need recipes  herbal medicines that she can use for the 
treatment, ...http://health.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/ayurvedao
(7 Canards ) full analysis...

ayurvedaonline : Messages : 15928-15957 of 15957
... of household remedies, allopathy, homeopathy, ayurveda, etc. but of no ... 
April 2009) Superaspects Of Ayurvedeeya Rasashastra Vaidya R.P.Bhide Rasamruta 
...http://health.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/ayurvedao
(8 Canards ) full analysis...

e-journal Articles
Pharmacovigilance for Ayurvedic Drugs Scope, Limitations and Method of 
Implementation ... Vaidya R.P.Bhide. Rasamruta 2009, 1:4 (28 April 2009) 
Amazing Reactions ...http://www.rasayu.com/e-journal/Articles.html
(10 Canards ) full analysis...
UNQUOTE

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, SHRIKANT BARVE shri8...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Viadya Chudamani Raghuvir (Pramod) Pandurang Bhide was
 working as Govt. Medical officer in the year 1976 to 2004 at
 Ratnagiri, Maharastra. 
 
 After completing his B.Sc  (Biology and Chemistry)
 (Bombay University)  in 1967 he Joined Astang Ayurved
 Mahavidyalay. His  Thesis for M.S.A.M. (Doctorate 
 equivalent degree) at Ayurved Vidyapith, Jamnagar was
 “Malla Bhasma Vidyaniyam” based on Rasashastra. 
 
 Vaidya Bhide has given relief to over 300 AID’s patient
 and successfully handled many other cases which were
 considered not curable by Modern Science. 
 
 We have arranged  interactive session of Vaidya R. P.
 Bhide “SUPER ASPECT OF AYURVEDEEY RAS-SHASTRA” on Sunday
 September 20 2009 10.00 to 12.00 at Goa Science Centre,
 Miramar. This session is ‘Free of Cost’ only for
 Doctors. 
 
 Interested Doctors may contact Shrikant Barve Convener at
 shri8...@gmail.com
 
 
 A special session for public on Ayurved by Vaidya Bhide
 will be held at Goa Science Centre, Miramar on Sunday 20th,
 2009. 
 
 Shrikant Vinayak Barve
 Convener: We Love Ayurved
 9403175973


  


Re: [Goanet] G'bye Goa - Goans worldwide: HERALD(Goa), Sept 6, 2009

2009-09-09 Thread Valmiki Faleiro


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Obviously in Iceland, Gabe! :-) Your mistake you were in Germany.
Luvs to you, Lily and the boys, v


- Original Message - 
From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com

To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] G'bye Goa - Goans worldwide: HERALD(Goa), Sept 6, 2009



2009/9/6 Valmiki Faleiro valmi...@gmail.com



G'BYE GOA: GOANS WORLDWIDE
By Valmiki Faleiro



Rego told of his friend touring Iceland. Seated in his hotel lounge
sipping a drink, a
lady approached and, after courtesies, sat next to him. After some drinks,
she got
cozy and offered him her services. He casually asked her from where she
was. Her
reply: Goa. Imagine a Goan prostitute warming up in a land of ice!

RESPONSE: How appropriate, a hot tot Goykar, plying her trade in icy cold

Iceland!

Where were they, when I was a frustrated young 'un in the Air Force in
Germany?

--
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London.


[Goanet] Incredible little girl -pianist

2009-09-09 Thread Cajetan Alvares

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Little girl pianist playing confidently


[Goanet] Wanted names: 10 more flowers (21-30)

2009-09-09 Thread JoeGoaUk

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Wanted names: 10 more flowers (21-30)
 
21. Short bush plant
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk3/3773460366/sizes/l/
 
22. I guess I will get no answer for this one
Captured on a medium height tree (sea side)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk3/3777952935/sizes/l/
 
 
23. Hardly seen now a days (creeper)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk3/3786070682/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk3/84982616/
 
24. This is also not commonly seen now a days
Captured 4 years ago and it is not there now
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk3/84981507/sizes/l/
 
25. These may look ‘Perpetina’ but they are not
Lovely blue colour 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk3/3811931149/sizes/l/
 
26. again, tiny bush flowers
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk3/3811932457/sizes/l/
 
 
27. road side monsoon glory
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk3/3812781368/sizes/l/
 
28. Mak’bai loz dista..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk3/3843842561/sizes/l/
 
29. on a taller tree
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk3/3815282460/sizes/l/
 
30. If this is Pidkol
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk3/3815339454/
Then what is this?http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk3/3825146940/


joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

for Goa  NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc


  

Re: [Goanet] Pimps, peddlers and more --- Goans can't enter Goan restaurant

2009-09-09 Thread lyrawmn

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Mr. Kelekar:
 
Dr.Nandkumar Kamat
Project scientist, Goa University Fungus Culture Collection And Research
Unit (GFCC)
GOA UNIVERSITY,  TALEIGAO,GOA, India, 403206
 
or
 
Contact The  Navhind Times
 
AND
 
What do is the name of the Calangute restaurant where a Goan was denied service?
 
I. Nunes


--- On Wed, 9/9/09, Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Goanet] Pimps, peddlers and more --- Goans can't enter Goan restaurant
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 10:33 AM



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Nandkumar's shocking revelation that Goans cant enter a Goan restaurant
http://www.navhindtimes.in/opinions/2735-discrimination-against-locals-i
only
brings the truth out.

I dont know what kind of an MLA this Calangute MLA is. He better resign,
if he cant cancel the licence of this restaurant.

I am well capable of getting 1000 people from the
state of Karnataka into Goa and enter this Indian restaurant. But
before that, I would urge Goans in Goa to join with me.

Also, I would request the Goa govt. to cancel the licence of
this restaurant.

Anyone has Nandkumar's contacts?

samir



      



  


[Goanet] Iceland's cold comforts.

2009-09-09 Thread eric pinto

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 RESPONSE: How appropriate, a hot tot Goykar, plying her trade in icy cold
 Iceland!
 
  
    Iceland had become a magnet for young Brits when the economy 
was on the swing, for several years.  Those emigrants included many London born 
children of Goan immigrants to England. Britain gets the credit for their 
achievements, as well as their potential shortcomings.
  Sadly, they have now been caught up in the maelstorm that has left almost 
half the country without work, and hope. They share little of the blame for 
their predicament. Stranded far from home, and with few options, one can 
understand the use of the final one available to women since the beginning of 
time, if only to survive another day.eric.   


  


[Goanet] Konkani Proverb by V.P Chavan

2009-09-09 Thread Edward Verdes


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There is a famous konkani proverb ass quoted in ..
The Konkani Proverbs by V.P.Chavan in devanagri with English translations.

Undir Malacca gelo...simply means...the rat has gone to Malacca Islands
and returned in no way wiser. This is in reference to insignificant persons
who brag about their wisdom, simply because they have visited foreign parts.

Can anyone give some more variations on this same proverb...

Edward Verdes
http://edskantaram.blogspot.com/ 



[Goanet] goa.wo...@yahoo.com :: BJP Amdar Suttien Gheleat..........

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BJP MLAs on holiday
HERALD REPORTER
PANJIM, SEPT 8
All the MLAs of the Opposition Bharatiya Janata Party are on a holiday abroad.

While five MLAs led by Opposition Leader Manohar Parrikar are already
in the United States of America on a three-week holiday, the remaining
MLAs led by deputy leader in the assembly Francis DSouza left for
Singapore today.

After a long assembly session and the Ganesh festival we wanted to
have some rest, one MLA who did not want to be named told Herald.

Responding to a buzz over whether the trip was sponsored, he said the
trip has been funded individually by the MLAs. A senior leader of the
party also refuted a suggestion that the BJP might have footed the
bill.

The party doesn=E2=80=99t believe in such things (of sending members
on holidays abroad), he added. The party was in power for just four
and a half years till early 2005 and since then has been in the
Opposition in the State.

President of Goa unit of BJP Shripad Naik who is also the North Goa MP
is not part of the holidaymakers.

The Mapusa MLA-led group is quite big in number, sources in the party said.

Besides the party MLAs, there are some officials and a few close
friendsD, it is learnt. They are learnt to have gone on a packaged
tour to the city state for a week. It is not known whether they will
visit Malaysia or Hong Kong.

Though there is no parallel, incidentally in mid-90s, under the chief
ministership of Pratapsing Rane, a Goa delegation consisting of some
ministers, MLAs and members of the Opposition  MGP then =E2=80=93
including firebrand Dr Kashinath Jhalmi had visited Singapore on a
study tour. After studying the police system there, Rane had changed
the uniform of the Goa police (which was reverted to khaki by
Parrikar-led government).

Sources in the party said Parrikar who is also accompanied by his
younger son left for the US August-end with four0 BJP legislators
including Damu Naik (Fatorda), Milind Naik (Mormugao), Vijay Pai Khot
(Canacona) and Mahadev Naik (Shiroda) and two office-bearers including
the party's treasurer (and confidante of Parrikar) Sanjeev Desai. They
left after the 5-day celebrations of Ganesh Chaturti,  a source said.

They are expected to return sometime on September 19-20, the source said.

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