date:20100808

The following writeup is a tribute to the Hindi song (Film) from my pal
Sunil Khushalani. Sunil Khushalani 

I met Sunil in the 90s at a Film Festival. We were in the same row---he came
up to me, and we got talking; soon learnt that he loves films, and not just
Bollywood movies. Years ago, when I was thinking of changing
fields---contemplating studying medicine; he helped me see the huge
investment I had made (I could not see this; having taken my approach and
skills, including even diligence for granted) towards my artistic labor.

He is a good person to know.

venantius j pinto

A TRIBUTE TO 'THE SONG'

I thought I would pay a special tribute to the 'song'-'the geet' or ' the
gaana'. Here's a sampling from the vast universe of hindi songs from the
last few decades.

THE THIRTIES
The decade where the talking and singing film started.Here's one of the
earliest songs produced.

http://youtu.be/-hcBNk9fhd4
The film was 'Achut Kanya'. The actors were Ashok Kumar and Devika Rani.The
composer was Saraswati Devi- a rare breed-that of a female music
composer. Think or look at a list of all music composers in hindi cinema,
and you will hardly see any female names.I do not know why, I wish it were
not, but it is one fact that I cannot explain.


THE FORTIES
Let's start with a song from the film 1948 film "Mela". The lyrics were by
Naushad's regular associate Shakeel Badayuni.

http://youtu.be/TibW9FG6yzg
Between the two, they were a very successful team- some of their highly
popular musical films are Dulari (1949)Baiju Bawra (1952), Shabab (1954),
Mother India (1957), and Mughal-e-Azam (1960), Ganga Jamuna (1961), and Mere
Mehboob (1963).


THE FIFTIES
Here's another song from the 1957 film, 'Miss Mary'.

http://youtu.be/8AlEZOW2Yj4
In addition to Kishore Kumar, the movie featured a young Meena Kumari and
Gemini Ganeshan (Rekha's father).The music was by Hemant Kumar. Hemant Kumar
had an incredible contribution to Indian cinema- he was not only a composer,
but also an accomplished playback singer.He also produced some very popular
films including 'Bees Saal Baad' and 'Khamoshi'


THE SIXTIES
'Geet Gaaya Patharon Ne' was a V.Shantaram film. It was the first film for 2
very succesful actors- Rajshree, who is V.Shantaram's daughter and
Jeetendra. Here's a 'geet' from this film

http://youtu.be/4INDBRQVtuM
The music is by Ramlal, who also gave music to the film 'Sehra'.This song is
sung by the eminent Hindustani classical vocalist Shrimati Kishori Amonkar.
The only other Hindi film that she sang for was Govind Nihalani's 'Drishti'
which had an exceptional soundtrack composed by her.


THE SEVENTIES
This song "Geet Gata Hoon" sung by Kishore Kumar was very popular.It was
from the film 'Lal Pathar'. The music was by Shankar Jaikishan and the
lyrics of this song were by Dev Kohli

http://youtu.be/N47ndACrJJc
Hema Malini played a rare negative role in this film.


THE EIGHTIES
'Sun Sahiba Sun' was a song that marked the end of Raj Kapoor' incredible
musical journey.It was from the 1985 film 'Ram Teri Ganga Maili'.Very few
film directors have left behind such a treasure of musical delights.

http://youtu.be/Ye2ufyRxb1E
The music in this film is by Ravindra Jain. Raj Kapoor had his incredible
ability of extracting the best music from each composer.


THE NINETIES
This is a song from a film from the cinematographer turned director Rajeev
Menon. The music here is by A R Rahman.

http://youtu.be/DSRu3JhKxus
In the 90's A. R. Rahman took the music industry by storm. Since he has
arrived on the scene, he has already won 9 Filmfare awards, the most number
of Filmfare awards that have been won by any music director - He has in tie
with Shankar Jaikishan who won an equal number from 1957-1976.



THE CURRENT DECADE
Amit Trivedi is a composer I have spoken about before. He is extremely
talented and an exciting composer to look out for. Here's a song by him from
a recent album 'Udaan'.

http://bit.ly/cx2IEE

Well, it is extremely evident- say what you want, HIndi film songs are here
to stay. Do any of you have any thoughts as to why they refuse to go away?
What about all of us attracts us to them - yearning for more and more and
always excited to find a good song!

+
Sunil Khushalani

[Goanet] Talking Photos: Some Goan Pics

Talking Photos: Some Goan Pics
 
V3 at the Bank (not for cash transactions)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4870964836/sizes/l/

Hindu-Christian bai-bai (not bye bye)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4871061038/

A tradition: a good gesture by a first time tarvotti
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4852478862/
(Except pistas you see here  in   place of grams)
 
Two guys at Don Bosco, are they fighting o what?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4838220469/

Miramar again, our family at sunset
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4822046962/

flooded hanging garden?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4813714644/

Good value for money
Infact, a good bargain
I won’t tell you where
B’cause it figured here at least twice before
 
Bon appétit 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukfishcurryrice2/4870943600/

Thanks


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[Goanet] Goanet] Why Goan News Channels like HCN and GOA 365, are not included in packages of DishTv , TATA SKY, Reliance TV etc.etc.

[Goanet] Why Goan News Channels like HCN and GOA 365 
are not included in packages of DishTv , TATA SKY, Reliance TV etc.etc.
 
Hi.
 
I guess it is an expensive affair to air such channels on Satellite or dish TV.
Currently only available on Cable TV.
 
And I tell you, once it starts airing on satellite/dish TV, 
Cable operator may have to close down their business in Goa.
But this is not likely to happen so soon (or may never happen)
 
We did not go in for Dish TV for the same reason.
We don’t have cable TV either.
 
Quote
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-August/197132.html


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Re: [Goanet] ravindra kelekar

2010-08-08 Thread Frederick Noronha


Dear Floriano, Again, to disagree

Konkani did not get a "bad deal for 450 years of Portuguee rule". 
However inconvenient it might be to admit this, there were some phases 
of Portuguese rule which were helpful to Konkani. The vast literature 
created in the Romi script is a pointer to this. (Of course, some might 
feel today that the Romi script was a diversion *away* from the real 
Konkani, but that is another point.)


Saraswat Hindu support for Konkani seems to be a post-20th century 
phenomenon, largely. Like the Catholics, who support the language for 
reasons other than linguistic (in my view), the Saraswat Hindus also 
have complex reasons for their support to the language.


Please see something I had written on language politics in Goa:
http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet-n...@lists.goanet.org/msg00067.html

Obviously, there's more than meets the eye. FN


floriano wrote:

Rico,
I appreciate your inputs. However, Konkani got the bad deal for 450 
years of the Portuguese rule. At the same time, Marathi  was something 
else.
How that happened if Konkani was at the heart of Goan Saraswats, I fail 
to understand. Either the numbers were ignorable or nobody cared enough.
It is a fact that Konkani is much alive in the Hindu world because of 
Saraswats, perhaps.
When I wrote below, I was talking of the overview from the mainstream 
Hindu point of view, which cannot be denied.
Konkani is the lingua franca and/or most  widely sponken language of Goa 
enough with the die-hard Marathi protagonists,  Marathi being the 
literary and the religious language. Why Konkani suffered so badly is 
the question that perplexes me.

[Goanet] Ten Principles for Peace of Mind....

2010-08-08 Thread Gina Fernandes

Ten Principles for Peace of Mind

1. Do Not Interfere In Others' Business Unless Asked.
Most of us create our own problems by interfering too often in others' affairs. 
We do so because somehow we have convinced ourselves that our way is the best 
way, our logic is the perfect logic and those who do not conform to our 
thinking 
must be criticized and steered to the right  direction, our direction. This 
thinking denies the existence of individuality and consequently the existence 
of 
God.. God has created each one of us in a unique way. No two human beings can 
think or act in exactly the same way. All men or women act the way they do 
because God within them prompts them that way. Mind your own business and you 
will keep your peace.

2. Forgive And Forget. 
This is the most powerful aid to peace of mind. We often develop ill feelings 
inside our heart for the person who insults us or harms us. We nurture 
grievances. This in turn results in loss of sleep, development of stomach 
ulcers, and high blood pressure. This insult or injury was done once, but 
nourishing of grievance goes on forever by constantly remembering it. Get over 
this bad habit. Life is too short to waste in such trifles. Forgive, Forget, 
and 
march on. Love flourishes in giving and forgiving.

3. Do Not Crave For Recognition.
This world is full of selfish people. They seldom praise anybody without 
selfish 
motives. They may praise you today because you are in power, but no sooner than 
you are powerless, they will forget your achievement and will start finding 
faults in you. Why do you wish to kill yourself in striving for their 
recognition? Their recognition is not worth the aggravation. Do your duties 
ethically and sincerely.

4. Do Not Be Jealous.
We all have experienced how jealousy can disturb our peace of mind. You know 
that you work harder than your colleagues in the office, but sometimes they get 
promotions; you do not. You started a business several years ago, but you are 
not as successful as your neighbor whose business is only one year old. There 
are several examples like these in everyday life. Should you be jealous? No. 
Remember everybody's life is shaped by his/her destiny, which has now become 
his/her reality. If you are destined to be rich, nothing in the world can stop 
you. If you are not so destined, no one can help you either. Nothing will be 
gained by blaming others for your misfortune. Jealousy will not get you 
anywhere; it will only take away your peace of mind.

5. Change Yourself According To The Environment.
If you try to change the environment single-handedly, the chances are you will 
fail. Instead, change yourself to suit your environment. As you do this, even 
the environment, which has been unfriendly to you, will mysteriously change and 
seem congenial and harmonious.

6. Endure What Cannot Be Cured.
This is the best way to turn a disadvantage into an advantage. Every day we 
face 
numerous inconveniences, ailments, irritations, and accidents that are beyond 
our control. If we cannot control them or change them, we must learn to put up 
with these things. We must learn to endure them cheerfully. Believe in yourself 
and you will gain in terms of patience, inner strength and will power.

7. Do Not Bite Off More Than You Can Chew.
This maxim needs to be remembered constantly. We often tend to take more 
responsibilities than we are capable of carrying out. This is done to satisfy 
our ego. Know your limitations.. Why take on additional loads that may create 
more worries? You cannot gain peace of mind by expanding your external 
activities. Reduce your material engagements and spend time in prayer, 
introspection and meditation. This will reduce those thoughts in your mind that 
make you restless. Uncluttered mind will produce greater peace of mind. 

8. Meditate Regularly.
Meditation calms the mind and gets rid of disturbing thoughts. This is the 
highest state of peace of mind. Try and experience it yourself. If you meditate 
earnestly for half an hour everyday, your mind will tend to become peaceful 
during the remaining twenty-three and half-hours. Your mind will not be easily 
disturbed as it was before. You would benefit by gradually increasing the 
period 
of daily meditation. You may think that this will interfere with your daily 
work. On the contrary, this will increase your efficiency and you will be able 
to produce better results in less time.

9. Never Leave The Mind Vacant.
An empty mind is the devil's workshop. All evil actions start in the vacant 
mind. Keep your mind occupied in something positive, something worthwhile. 
Actively follow a hobby. Do something that holds your interest. You must decide 
what you value more: money or peace of mind. Your hobby, like social work 
or religious work, may not always earn you more money, but you will have a 
sense 
of fulfillment and achievement. Even when you are resting physically, occupy 
yourself in healthy reading or mental cha

[Goanet] GOA SUDHAROP: "Year of the Goan Volunteer Spirit" event

2010-08-08 Thread George Pinto

This is a report on the seminar held on August 6, 2010 on the “Year of the Goan 
Volunteer Spirit” organized by Goa Sudharop in association with VVM’s Shree 
Damodar College of Commerce and Economics, Margao.

The program, attended by about 200 Higher Secondary students and staff members 
of Damodar College and ably compered by students of the college, began with a 
beautiful invocation song by four students. Dr. L. Bhanu Murthy, Principal of 
the College then delivered his welcome address wherein he urged the students to 
make the best use of this opportunity to learn as much as they could from the 
seminar and from the experienced resource persons.

After the traditional lamp was lit and flowers presented to those on the dais 
and to the resource persons, Mr. Ibonio D’Souza, Executive Director of Goa 
Sudharop, delivered the keynote address. Thanking the management, staff 
members, resource persons and the students for working together as a team to 
make this seminar possible, Mr. D’Souza also explained the reasons for choosing 
to celebrate the Spirit of Volunteerism as the Goa Sudharop theme for the year 
2010. Not only does Goa Sudharop complete its 10th anniversary of fruitful work 
in volunteer service for Goa and Goans this year, but the organization also 
believes that the best way to eliminate various evils from society is by 
creating a caring and sensitive community. Speaking to the students about the 
purpose of the seminar, he said it was to enable them to understand how they 
could make, both individually and collectively, a difference in our ailing 
society and also positively transform their
own lives in the process.

The interactive seminar that followed comprised of four sessions conducted by 
four different resource persons. The first session “Be the change” was 
conducted by Mr. Pravin Sabnis, renowned motivational speaker and skilled 
trainer of “Unlearning Unlimited”. Using several audio-visual clips, Mr. Sabnis 
explained how we can each instill in ourselves the spirit of participating and 
working for the welfare of the community and that we have to believe that each 
one of us can make a difference. He challenged the students to think, to see 
beyond the obvious, and to develop positive attitudes. In the words of Mahatma 
Gandhi “Be the change you want to see in the world”.

The next session “Why serve society?” conducted by Acharya Prahlad Chaitanyaji 
of the Swami Chinmaya Mission, Margao, was a very inspiring session. Using 
everyday examples, Acharya Prahlad spoke gently yet very convincingly of the 
importance of service and how service consists primarily of duty, selflessness 
and unconditional love. When one person in a family is suffering, it is 
impossible for others in the family to enjoy themselves. Similarly, when a 
neighbour is in difficulty, we should be empathetic. All of us in society are 
thus interconnected and it is up to each of us to make the world a better place.

The third session was by Rev. Fr. Kyriel D’Souza, Provincial Superior, Pilar 
Society, who spoke on the topic “Better to light a candle than to curse the 
darkness”. Rather than focusing on the negative as is very often done, Fr. 
Kyriel spoke of how we can instead develop better attitudes by focusing on the 
bright side of any situation, read inspiring stories, stay away from negative 
influences and associate with happy people.  The students were shown short 
movie clips to demonstrate how doing good deeds and offering encouragement is 
something each of us can effectively practice. Advising the students to read 
the writings of Mahatma Gandhi and Swami Vivekananda, Fr. Kyriel said, “This is 
the moment you can step forward and make a difference”.

The last session was by Dr. Jorson Fernandes, an ENT surgeon and a well 
experienced speaker. Dr. Jorson spoke on the topic “Volunteerism in me”. Using 
an audio visual presentation and practical demonstrations, he explained how 
volunteerism is based on the assessment of the needs of others and providing 
what is required. He explained how we are not here in this world by chance and 
that each of us has within us the potential to do much for the community and 
for society.

Ms. Florence Rebello, lecturer at Damodar College, then gave a brief wrap up of 
all the sessions. The students were presented with certificates of 
participation and there was also a special prize and a certificate to the best 
student participant, Ms. Faheem Shah Aziz. The seminar concluded with a Vote of 
Thanks by Dr. (Mrs) Manasvi Kamat.

Goa Sudharop
www.goasudharop.org

[Goanet] Goa news for August 9, 2010

2010-08-08 Thread Goanet News Service

Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Goa minister unfazed by drug mafia connections - Deccan
Herald
eddler-nexus-existed-in-goa-for-years-naik/211161.html">Policemen-drug
peddler nexus existed in Goa for years: Naik
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGWXVkC0Od59csTePENWZLzhmVg8g&url=http://www.deccanherald.com/content/86955/goa-minister-unfazed-drug-mafia.html

*** Devdas hero in Bengal fairytale - Indian Express
ime equaliser saved the day in the semi-final against Goa,
Monday was the time for Denson Devadas to get his adopted ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNG0zZ3GRCuB-AQQla5QHawUx5SUcg&url=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Devdas-hero-in-Bengal-fairytale/657767

*** Scarlett Keeling's mother accuses Goan minister of links to
drugs mafia - The Guardian
eeling-case-goa-house-adjourned-twice-over-fiona-s-allegations_1418303">Scarlett
Keeling case: Goa House adjourned twice over Fiona's allegations
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFdSgY7Gm6csCGg8xViuQkEd3mksg&url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/02/scarlett-keeling-mother-accuses-minister

*** Santosh Trophy: Bengal take on high-flying Goa - Times of
India
Ryw
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNELZViwA0K9NGomHt3Xz9Ti4vbp4g&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/football/top-stories/Santosh-Trophy-Bengal-take-on-high-flying-Goa/articleshow/6263497.cms

*** 5 kids flee from Apna Ghar - Times of India
un home on Saturday ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEEEjFSi4KBmPR_29ACu68GDLAK2Q&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/5-kids-flee-from-Apna-Ghar/articleshow/6273591.cms

*** Two injured in road mishap at Azossim - Times of India
mes of IndiaOLD GOA: Two persons were seriously injured in a
road accident which took place along the Old Goa to Pilar road
near Igorjhe waddo in Azzosim village on ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNHP4QdBCiSRjO6mQPOI1S9MFoOiEg&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Two-injured-in-road-mishap-at-Azossim/articleshow/6278069.cms

*** New rules give DHS powers to inspect ambulances - Times of
India
mes of IndiaPANAJI: The Goa Public Health (Amendment) Rules,
2010 have laid down standards for operations of ambulances in
the state and have also given the directorate ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGvzKlnPXg64M9vhWIzq-D3kIutog&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/New-rules-give-DHS-powers-to-inspect-ambulances/articleshow/6278007.cms

*** '64 H1N1 cases detected in Goa since 2009' - Times of India
tIMM">and more »
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*** This environment crusader refuses to hang up his boots -
Times of India
mes of IndiaD Muniappan, 36, will start this new adventure rally
from Goa passing through the now flood affected Leh to touch
base at Khardungla Pass. ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFXyuruGfZE7XlsBiRNL9XfFNZWiw&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/vadodara/This-environment-crusader-refuses-to-hang-up-his-boots/articleshow/6276832.cms

*** Cavelossim villagers - Times of India
mes of IndiaMARGAO: The locale of Goa Fest, tagged as the most
prestigious advertising and communications festival, came into
focus at the gram sabha of the Cavelossim ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFP_4PWi-IRMvSJoG3WBIERnxGGJg&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Cavelossim-villagers/articleshow/6278084.cms


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[Goanet] On the selling of Vanxim

2010-08-08 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar

To Goanet -

I had photographed at this beautiful idyll a couple of years ago.  It is right 
across the river from the Devaaya resort.

What a tragedy.  As I have said in the past, Goans ought to hand over Goa 
to the bhaile rascals and the ghatis and be done with it.

I tried to retrieve my photos of Vanxim but a search comes up empty.  My
database is searchable with keywords so I don't know why "Vanxim" or 
Vanshim" are drawing a blank.  I am not going to manually comb thousands 
of images. 


Regards,


r

[Goanet] How to Naturally Avoid and Remove Dangerous Arterial Plaque

2010-08-08 Thread Con Menezes

How to naturally avoid & remove dangerous arterial plaque
'Healthier Talk'
http://www.healthiertalk.com/how-naturally-avoid-and-remove-dangerous-arterial-plaque-2212

[Goanet] WANTED: New PC

Looking to buy a New PC
My  4 year old Zenith  PC desktop gives me lot of problems now a days.
I guess, it crossed it’s 'use by date'.
I never used Anti-virus software though 
(used once but it slows down my PC.. never used again)
 
Current machine is slower  -256mb RAM
Intel P4, Window XP and 40GB hard disk drive
With 19” TFT Monitor
I paid 41,000 plus 7000 for all-in-one printer.
 
e.g. to save a 4.4 minute HD/MP4 (1280x720) clip 
on to hard drive it takes hours. (More than 2 hours).
Any File transfer speed is also very slow from the begining.
Also, it give me lot of start-up problems. Never starts in 
one go..

Now looking for new and  faster one
With  Window 7 (Premium)
Intel latest
2GB or more RAM/DDr
Hard disk 320GB or more (320 Now seems STD)
Media type – with connection ports hub 
Video/Graphic card 1GB
At least 6 USB ports
TFT Monitor 19”
Plus other STD drives etc
 
Any other suggestions would help

I know it would cost me almost same as my older one or 
little more
Any  idea where in Goa I can get  a good deal?
Tried DELL and HP/Syscom showrooms both same building 
in Panjim, not very much impressed with the Prices, 
delivery time, taxes, delivery charges etc

 
Note: I posted similar query some 4 years ago and i remember 
receiving valuable feddback too

 
Thanks.


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[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (9Aug10)

2010-08-08 Thread alexyz fernandes


*** Goa Gone ?  ***

"Mother why're most Politicians, Mine Owners, Builders, Saw Mills, 
Murderers of Mother Nature...?"


"They're Not Bred on Mother's Milk"


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Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org

[Goanet] Daily Grook #778

2010-08-08 Thread Francis Rodrigues


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===
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is often foolhardy,
cops start pudding
you into custardy!



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Re: [Goanet] ravindra kelekar

2010-08-08 Thread floriano


Rico,
I appreciate your inputs. However, Konkani got the bad deal for 450 years of 
the Portuguese rule. At the same time, Marathi  was something else.
How that happened if Konkani was at the heart of Goan Saraswats, I fail to 
understand. Either the numbers were ignorable or nobody cared enough.
It is a fact that Konkani is much alive in the Hindu world because of 
Saraswats, perhaps.


When I wrote below, I was talking of the overview from the mainstream Hindu 
point of view, which cannot be denied.
Konkani is the lingua franca and/or most  widely sponken language of Goa 
enough with the die-hard Marathi protagonists,  Marathi being the literary 
and the religious language. Why Konkani suffered so badly is the question 
that perplexes me.


Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
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www.goasu-raj.org for expanded scrolling Party Presentation on the Home 
Page.




- Original Message - 
From: "Frederick Noronha" 

To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] ravindra kelekar



floriano wrote:
costs. Practically the Goan Hindu world believed to the contrary i.e. 
that

Konkani was a dialect of Marathi and therefore of no consequence. This
wide-spread attitude of the Goan Hindu world made  Ravindra Kelekar
altogether a laughing stalk

[Goanet] River Princess

2010-08-08 Thread Camillo Fernandes


Peter Fernandes  wrote :  

 River Princess
 
Everyone knows the game of Cards known DONKEY, catch-play or
dor-sodd.we call in konkani.
The same is become with River Princess, how many Ministers entered
played with it and left.
The game here is making money. If one really wanted it to move out, it
would have gone out
from Sinquerim beach long time ago.
 
Similar incident happened in 1995. It was with an off-shore Oil Rig a
Barge with huge Derrick.
This Barge or Rig is not small, but as big as River Princess.
The day cannot be forgotten, as it was December, Goas patron St
Francis Xavier Feast day.
I was working with this Company and was based in Chennai. The Rig was
operating off
KARAIKAL and NAGAPATINAM Coast. Because of Cyclone Warning the Rig was
avacuated and the boys joined
me at my residence in Chennai to celebrate the feast. The next morning
we received a call from the
Radio Room, saying the Rig has landed on Karaikal Beach. The Rig was
anchored with 8 X 2-1/4" Diameter
Wire Lines and all 8 Anchor lines had snapped..
 
It was very difficult to reach Karaikal via road, all the roads were
blocked due to the Cyclone.
There was huge damage due to uprooting of trees, electric posts..and
there was heavy rain pouring.
No political hero got involved with the salvage operation.
It took us about a week to move this Barge off Karaikal coast.
The salvage operation was wth about 50 to 75 Fishing Trawlers.
On every high tide the trawlers pulled the Barge out one to two meters.
 
This Rig was built in 1972 and is still going strong.
At present drilling for ONGC off Mumbai Coast.
 
Poor River Pricess still off Sinquerim Beach.
Ali Baba and the chalis chor's are responsible for this?
Yes, sure. I have been to Alang Ship Breaking yard in Bhvnagar Nagar.Gujarat.
Huge ships are cut into pieces with no difficulty. Any shipbreaker from
Alang can undertake this job of cutting River Princess.
How many more years CATCH-PLAY?

 

Comments :  Camilo Fernandes

 

The  procrastination/inaction on the part of the Congress Government headed by 
the shrewd Kamat 

clearly shows that it is not interested in getting rid of River  Princess.   It 
is years now but still no action

has been taken.   They ministers only pay lip service but no concrete action.

The MLAs had been elected by the people with the high expectations that they

would represent the welfare of the people and save Goa from destruction.  
However once elected

they are only interested in increasing their wealth at any cost.   They only pay

lip service but no concrete action or solution.

 

 Sangaonkars  the owners of River Princess, who are in the mining industry make 
huge profits but are not 

interested in clearing the damage being caused to the environment.

If the Goa Government is serious in solving this problem they should take 
immediate action to remove

River Princess and make Salgaonkars pay for the cost involved.

As Peter mentions, any shipbreaker from Alang, Gujarat can undertake this job 
of cutting River Princess. 

If so why is the Government shirking from its responsibility and making it 
appear that is helpless in

performing this task.

Re: [Goanet] Fw: Goan Festival London - Sunday 25th July 2010

2010-08-08 Thread Gabe Menezes

On 8 August 2010 19:12, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:

> For those of you who are interested, here is a link to a great blog of the
> festival.
>
> The blog then offers links to other blogs with great video's, both of the
> festival and of someones Konkani songs. The Konkani songs are interesting
> too.
>
>
> In other words, if one is interested, one could easily spend a pleasant
> evening viewing stuff here,
>
>
> Mervyn1206Lobo
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > http://goanfestival2010.blogspot.com/
>

RESPONSE: Thanks Mervyn, for posting this on to our broader community
blogsite; I quote once again, second time, confirmation of attendance
''*Understand
there were over 5,000 who attended this occasion and as I was only present
for a couple of hours I could not capture all the action''

This would equate to gate receipts of £12,500, car parking say 1,000 cars,
income at £5,000. The management were at variance, at one time informing
Members that they had procured outside parking at great expense and in the
same enclosure requesting members, to not bring their cars - seems the right
hand does not know what the left is doing!

Sure there are expenses involved, so I will disregard income from stalls,
including the commission received from the Bar/s, raffles, if any and the
Sponsorship - we were informed years ago that the grounds were given for
hire at a nominal sum; perhaps this has changed now?

I write this, as I was shafted for querying why there was no audit done for
the last accounting period.

I shall write further about this in another posting.
*

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM
**
Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] It's a Revenge Review not Tiatr Review"

2010-08-08 Thread Peter Fernandes

Message-ID: <4c56da66.2070...@yahoo.com>
It's a Revenge Review not Tiatr Review

They come all the way from Goa to entertain you and me encourage them..
Do not kill them with the harsh words.

These Tiatrists with their hard work keep us awake with their work for
our Mai Bhas
Konkani, The Tiatrs not starting in time is because of Goykars
susegadponn. Tiatrist
is not to be blamed for the late start but the Tiatr organizers..
Tiatr and Konkani lovers buy the tickets, some cannot reach in time
because of shifts,
traffic hazards, and this is another reason Tiatrs stars late.

Tiatr writer and directors like Roseferns, Prince Jacob, Menino Mario,
Agostino and many others
have done very hard work for the Konkani stage and become famous with
their talent. The review
writers will write as long as they have power to their hands,
Tiatrists must not get hurt by reading the
reviews, read and forget and must concentrate on their work. We want
you to write more and more and
come on the stage with your good work, If the review writer criticised
you, thank the writer and tell you
you will improve your acting part next time.

Non stop dramas some call Khell Tiatrs are more better then Tiatrs,

Agostin bab take it easy, concentrate on your work and come up with a
best Tiatr.



Regards
Peter Fernandes

[Goanet] My response U. G. Barad Goanet Digest, Vol 5, Issue 834

2010-08-08 Thread pinheiro

Message: 9
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:56:04 +0530
From: "U. G. Barad" 
To: 
Subject: [Goanet] (No subject)

My response: quite interesting posting of Mr. Michael prompts me to ask a
few questions: 1) granted that it's not the true picture of Jesus, but where
on earth one can find the true picture of Jesus? 2) does not your posting
make ones mind prejudiced who thinks that all pictures in all churches are
of Jesus in whom they believe wholeheartedly? Lastly, if it's not the true
picture of Jesus why the big fuss from christian community? 

Best regards,

U. G. Barad

My response: 

Why it bothers you what, when, how Christians do or don't with Christ?  How 
much do you know about your religion?  I highly recommend you to read the four 
Vedas, the Rig Veda, Sama Veda, Yajur Veda and Atharva Veda. Most of the 
answers you seek, you will find in  Rigveda  X:90:2 ; X:90:5.  You seem to be 
more like an internet Doctor, so don't try to be religious doctor. My free 
advise, do not use your stethoscope for anything and everything, diagnosis will 
go wrong.  

Agnelo Pinheiro

[Goanet] All Religions for Human Integral Development

Fr. Ivo wrote (Message: 8, dated: Fri, 6 Aug 2010): Dear Dr.U.G.Barad, If
you do not understand my logic, neither do I understand yours. Scandals can
be everywhere, it is part and parcel of our fallen human nature.

My response: I believe understanding you as "Father" is more important than
understanding your logic and me! Accidents (fallen human nature in your
terms) do take place hence it is rightly called accidents! But if something
is perpetually taking place it is not called fallen or accident. On the
contrary, such avoidable acts like clergy sex scandals needs immediate
plugging out from the system! Or else it will ruin the entire enclave.

Fr. Ivo wrote: Does it mean that the Church is not marching or the society
is not in progress? 

My response: Your above expression has come out as your implied
version/logic. I have never said so!

Fr. Ivo wrote: Is it the end of the world, the end of Christianity? All of
us are disturbed by what is happening in India and in Goa, does it mean that
we have no hope? What should all of us do? Harp on what is crooked and
forget to go straight and progress? 

My response: Again, Your above expression has come out as your implied
logic. I have never said so! 

Fr. Ivo wrote: If there are scams and scandals among the leaders of the
society, are we stagnant? What can we do in this situation? This should be
our question today and always. 

My response: Cardinal principle says, "Let's set our house in order first
and only than we can attempt to set our neighbors houses right". As far as
your question about scams and scandals in society is concerned there are
ample laws to take care and government is entrusted with the responsibility
to ensure safety in society. 

Fr. Ivo wrote:...instead of dividing ourselves in terms of religion or any
other divisive force, when it is misundersttod. Let us foster what unites
us, shun what divides us...

My response: That's exactly what I believe in. But what I see in most
messages in Goanet is exactly opposite i.e. "Shunning what units us..and...
fostering what divides us". Fr. Ivo do check goanet archivesyou want be
surprised to digest what I have written.  

Best regards,

U. G. Barad

Re: [Goanet] RIVER PRINCESS

The River Princess should now be renamed: Crown Princess of Candolim, and 
supplied with a River Prince.
 Everybody should then pray to deities? for bringing forth many more 'babies' 
more princesses and princes' so that then we could have an archipelago of boats 
off Candolim, where then, can be sent all the Ghantis and Ghattis of 'r' 
Parrikar.
Where is the so called India's achievemnets, of 'Taking off' ?
Have they taken off on a tangent and lost in space?

Nascy.

--- On Sat, 7/8/10, seby cardozo  wrote:
> Dear John Gomes,
> 
> You wrote: Government has spent lakhs, whilst the owner of
> the vessel has
> got scot free of any punishment or fine. Our beaches are
> permanently
> damaged. States finances in the RED. Can someone enlighten
> us as to what is
> going on?
>

Re: [Goanet] ravindra kelekar

2010-08-08 Thread Frederick Noronha


floriano wrote:

costs. Practically the Goan Hindu world believed to the contrary i.e. that
Konkani was a dialect of Marathi and therefore of no consequence. This
wide-spread attitude of the Goan Hindu world made  Ravindra Kelekar
altogether a laughing stalk


Floriano,

This isn't quite true. The attitude of diverse groups in Goa towards the 
Konkani-Marathi divide is more complex than that.


The Hindu Saraswat has been on the (mostly devanagari) Konkani side, 
since at least the mid-20th side, and since  "Shenoy Goembab" (quotes 
because that was his pen-name).


Check this article below, a contentious piece by Ashok Row Kavi, who 
gives one point of view on a complex subject:

http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg21732.html

Catholics and Hindu Saraswats, in other words, supported Konkani in the 
1980s, but arguably for entirely differing reasons. FN

Re: [Goanet] Travelling by Cargo ships, freighters around the world

Hi Nascy,
Thanks. The other companies (non-Indian in the links) seem to do well and
encourage such travel. Some time back, I met a videographer who had
travelled on a cargo ship to the East if I remember correctly.

I can imagine that it involves planning,, process, good protocol on part of
the company crew, as also  the passengers. The companies and now there are
many who take on passengers are equipped to do so. They also have cabins.
Perhaps we are not yet quite wholeheartedly into that servicem or perhaps we
are now. It also demands a certain level of courtesy, and elegance to deal
with people and their personalities-besides containers. BUT rules are laid
down, one would think they are followed.

Of course one is expected to have insurance and stuff. Just so one does not
become a liability. I believe on such voyages certain areas are off limits,
depending on the situation, time, context. But again it is a finessing of
process and respecting limits.

I plan on doing so. Perhaps may go with an Indian vessel if possible Of
course there are the French, Japanese. Let me know if you know anyone on a
good route or can connect me. What will I do? Draw, etc. Of course others
can do the same, or think of doing the same. I am always asked for ideas,
and here this is a another one for my already highly connected Indian
friends. My situation in life has changed a bit so as I age I am moving
differently. May not be a bad idea to work as a 50 (49 now) year old
khalasi. Or a Topus in my craft-paper made, Opmus. Also lean, but
technically sound. Hahahahahaha.

Thanks again.

venantius j pinto

From: Nascy Caldeira 
> To: " estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list"
>
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Travelling by Cargo ships, freighters around the
>world
>
> In my time, the ships of the SCI used to allow some passengers, if suitable
> accommodation is available; though this is not recommended as it involves
> issues of asfety, care and insurance laiabilities for everyone.
>
> Nascy.
>
> --- On Sat, 7/8/10, Venantius J Pinto  wrote:
> > Not sure whether Indian ships allow this/or are allowed to
> > take passengers.
> > 
> > venantius j pinto
>

[Goanet] Murder of Vasco lad Naresh Dourado

2010-08-08 Thread Jim Fernandes

Ricky,

What is the background to this story? Tell us something more about Naresh and 
the sequence of events surrounding this case and also about contacts made so 
far, with local law enforcement.

Jim F
New York.


--- On Sun, 8/8/10, Ricky bryan fernandes  wrote:

> From: Ricky bryan fernandes 
> Subject: [Goanet] Justice should prevail in the brutal murder of Vasco lad 
> Naresh Dourado
> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org, goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org
> Cc: goanet-ow...@lists.goanet.org, goaworldto...@yahoo.com
> Date: Sunday, August 8, 2010, 2:19 PM
> Dear Sir/Madam, Please can you
> publish my letter in your esteemed media. Sincerely,Ricky
> Fernandes
>  
> Subject: Justice should prevail in the brutal murder of
> Vasco lad Naresh Dourado
> A week has passed by after the brutal murder of the Vasco
> lad Naresh Dourado and we are yet to hear of any substantial
> result in the investigations from the Goa Police. Goa Police
> should not to leave any stones unturned and to nab the
> culprits involved in this incident. We cannot ignore this
> incident like any other incidents that occur in Goa.
> 
...
...
> 
> Yours Sincerely,
> 
> Ricky Fernandes
> Goa.
> 
>

[Goanet] conversions

2010-08-08 Thread Joao Barros-Pereira

The great Krishnamurti once said, to change our religion is to change our
cage. He also said, all wars begin in chai shops. He was indeed a wonderful
man who inspired generations of people all over the world. Celebrate life!

[Goanet] Video clip Goa Legislative Assembly

2010-08-08 Thread Camillo Fernandes


 JoeGoaUk   wrote :  
Subject: Porvorim (Goa
Legislative Assembly)

Come, I now take you over to Porvorim (Goa Legislative Assembly)
?
It?s my 801 special
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd2cQFUZ20Y
?
That was my first time.
I am sure, 99.9% of you never been here
and hence this special clip bringing you the same
right?to your desktop wherever you are.
?
Note:
This is done in good faith by a Goan to Goans everywhere.
That?s what I do. I am not a terrorist, Sir.


 

Comments :  Camilo Fernandes

 

Kudos and thanks to JoegoaUK for the beautiful video clip accompanied by lovely

 music of Goa Legislative Assembly and proceedings.   Thanks to him we could

watch the Assembly no matter where we are based in the comforts of our

home.  I am sure other Goanetters who have never visited the Assembly

would share the same happiness. I never expected the assembly to be so lavish 
and

this is an eye opener to me as to how proceedings take place there.

 

Keep up the good work Joe!!!  You are doing a wonderful service to all Goans

everywhere.

[Goanet] WORLD GOA DAY FOOTBALL TOURNAMENT

2010-08-08 Thread goanint

WORLD GOA DAY FOOTBALL TOURNAMENT
From: Goan Welfare Society Nairobi   View Contact 
To:

Dear Members & Friends,

We kick off our World Goa Day celebrations with a football tournament which 
will 
be held
 on Sunday the 15th of August 2010 at the Goan Gymkhana from 10am followed by 
lunch.

The tournament will be 9-a-side comprising 5 men; 2 women ; 2 children. 
Substitutes will be 
1 man ; 1 woman and 1 child. Entry fee per team is Kshs 5,000/=

Spectators may buy Mutton Biriani lunch at Kshs 300/= per plate.

To confirm your team call Santano on 0714 968994 or Christo on 0722/0733 203454 
or email us at gwsnew...@gmail.com

Viva Goa
GOAN WELFARE SOCIETY

WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS East Africa  

rene barreto

Goanworld : http://worldgoan.blogspot.com/
WORLD GOA DAY 20.8.2010 WORLD KONKANI DAY

  WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS 
==

Re: [Goanet] OBAMA FEAR's HINDU FUNDAMENTALIST's..

2010-08-08 Thread Santosh Helekar

Dear Vasant,

Thanks for giving me evidence that Obama is a Hindu fundamentalist. I don't 
think he will go to Tirupati because the evidence you have provided proves that 
he is a Hindi/Gujarati speaking north Indian Hindu extremist. I have also found 
out that many of his European, Hispanic, Chinese, Middle Eastern and African 
appointees have links with the non-Christian governments and political parties 
of India because their names appear on the websites of many Indian institutions 
and organizations. He has also been repeatedly photographed with an Indian Arab 
wearing a turban, who is currently the prime minister of India. It is rumored 
that he has received an urn containing the water of that Indian river that is 
named after a disease.

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Sat, 8/7/10, Vasant Baliga  wrote:

> From: Vasant Baliga 
> Subject: [Goanet] OBAMA FEAR's HINDU FUNDAMENTALIST's..
> To: "Goanet" 
> Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 11:42 PM
> Dear Santosh,
> Obama has always been a closet Hindu-he appointed Sonal
> Shah to a high position 
> inspite of Opposition from the Indian American
> secularists.She was accused of 
> RSS links.He also has admitted carrying a Hanuman idol at
> all times for good 
> luck.
> Last month his administration announced that it had
> appointed  Preeta D. Bansal 
> to serve as the Vice Chair (Government Official) of the
> Council  of the 
> Administrative Conference of the U.S. (ACUS). Ms.
> Bansal’s appointment  follows 
> closely on the heels of a similar announcement last week,
> of Nisha Desai  
> Biswal, who was nominated to the post of Assistant
> Administrator for Asia in the  
> U.S. Agency for International Development. 
> 
> When their appointments are confirmed, the two women will
> join the  large and 
> growing club of Indian-American and Hindu Obama appointees,
> which already  
> includes Rajiv Shah, Administrator, USAID, Vivek Kundra,
> Federal Chief  
> Information Officer and Aneesh Chopra, First Chief
> Technology Officer.
> There are rumours in Indonesia-that his mother secretly
> baptised him as a Hindu 
> in Bali and probably this explains why his half sister is
> named Maya.
> Now one hears that he is behind the conversion of Julia
> Roberts to Hinduism and 
> that the movie Eat,Pray and Love is financed by Islamic
> Sympathisers of Obama 
> from the Middle East and Kenya.
> Watch out-there are rumours that India's God Kings will
> accompany the Obamas to 
> Tirupati during his visit in November.
> Cheers
> Vasant
>

Re: [Goanet] Commonwealth or Common robbery

Hello Bernard,
 I have pointed out long ago that: the Cow phobia and other superstitions and 
primitive attitudes are the real 'cause celebre' of Indian non achievement. 
They need to be enlightened in a hurry; Alas too late for that.
Nascy.

--- On Sat, 7/8/10, Bernado Colaco  wrote:

> According to press reports the
> current Commonwealth games has become a quagmire. 
> Not only because of its behind schedule construction but
> now there serious 
> allegations of corruption by the bharat organizers.
> President Pandurang from USA 
> pontificates that Goan are disloyal to his bharat. I guess
> he wants Goans to be 
> part of the great common robbery.
> 
> BC

[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (7Aug10)

2010-08-08 Thread alexyz fernandes


*** New Guess Game at 2010 CWG  ***

"Which Commonwealth Games Dept Looted the most amount of Money?"

"Specify in Crores?!"


To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com
Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org

Re: [Goanet] Jose Pereira at XCHR: A Recounting of Events

2010-08-08 Thread Sam Furtado


Dr. Helekar,

First and foremost tell me please, in English word, what do youo mean by 
'Apology and Regret', give me he definition?


Secondly, who in his or her right sense would apologize for nothing or 
be sorry for having done nothing wrong.


So why the question of you repeating that I retranct my words of  having 
disreputed you in public domain when an apology to that should have an 
convincing effect on you and that should have sufficed you..


Do you feel that the specific kind of words have a special kind of 
forbearance on you and an apology would be less respectful and bring 
disrepute to your name and that retriving statement would have glorified 
you and cruxified me.


I feel you have strange ways of getting things done, when at one stroke 
two birds can be felled you want two stones to do the job


So, Stop this vicious cycle that would lead you nowhere and 
unnecessarity get an entanglement with no loose strings left.


Sam

[Goanet] St. Francis Xavier Unity Cup Football Tournament - Draw scheduled on 5th July 2010

2010-08-08 Thread Goa World


St. Francis Xavier Unity Cup Football Tournament


The DRAW of the tournament will be held on Thursday, 5th August 2010 at 
8 pm at Bayan Stadium [during the opening match of the Navelim 7-a-side 
tournament].


We welcome all 16 participating for the draw and wish them an enjoyable 
tournament.


The proceeds of this tournament will be forwarded to one of the 
charities in Goa.  For any more details please contact the Tournament 
Coordinators at 99663252 / 66625567.


Posted by Goa-World.COM
http://indiancommunityinkuwait.blogspot.com/2010/07/st-francis-xavier-unity-cup-football.html

[Goanet] India's Growth Story - A Story of Rural India.


Agnelo Pinheiro has given a nice write up of the sad state of the people in
rural India.  He has rightly said: "It is the need of today and tomorrow if
the growth story has to reach the common man the 'Aam Admi'."

I guess the present government, which keeps mouthing that they are all for
the Aam Admi, should be answerable for the situation.  Also, let us not
forget that Indira Gandhi had coined the slogan "Garabi Hatao" in the early
1970s. Yet, something contrary is seen taking place in India i.e. "Garibi
Badao" 

Best regards,

U. G. Barad

[Goanet] DISTH!

Is the hand with the "umvalli matter" not brought from behind the
legs, through the legs to the front, momentarily resulting in a brief
changing of hands.

venantius j pinto

>
> From: Domnic Fernandes [mailto:domval...@hotmail.com]
>
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:11 AM
> To: Goanet Goanet
> Subject: DISTH!
>
> The following extract is from my 12-part series: "The forgotten Tribe - 
> Mhar". I am posting it for the benefit of those who may not have read the 
> series:
>
> SORCERY & EXORCISM
>
> I(DEL)
> The Mhars used salt to perform an "umvalli" - an act of exorcism in which a 
> spoonful of "mitt" (salt) and "tin sukeo, motteo mirsango" (three fat, dry 
> chilies) are held in the right hand and passed over affected person's body 
> from head to toe while at the same time murmuring:

[Goanet] Fw: Goan Festival London - Sunday 25th July 2010

2010-08-08 Thread Mervyn Lobo

For those of you who are interested, here is a link to a great blog of 
the festival.


The blog then offers links to other blogs with great video's, both of 
the festival and of someones Konkani songs. The Konkani songs are 
interesting too.



In other words, if one is interested, one could easily spend a pleasant 
evening viewing stuff here,



Mervyn1206Lobo




>
>
> http://goanfestival2010.blogspot.com/
>
>

[Goanet] Justice should prevail in the brutal murder of Vasco lad Naresh Dourado

2010-08-08 Thread Ricky bryan fernandes

Dear Sir/Madam, Please can you publish my letter in your esteemed media. 
Sincerely,Ricky Fernandes
 
Subject: Justice should prevail in the brutal murder of Vasco lad Naresh Dourado
A week has passed by after the brutal murder of the Vasco lad Naresh Dourado 
and we are yet to hear of any substantial result in the investigations from the 
Goa Police. Goa Police should not to leave any stones unturned and to nab the 
culprits involved in this incident. We cannot ignore this incident like any 
other incidents that occur in Goa.

The people of Goa need to know why this lad from Vasco was murdered in such a 
brutal way. This is a matter of serious concern to the citizens of Goa knowing 
that there is no security to life, in the once called Goan Paradise.
This is a prime opportunity for the Goa Police to re-instill their lost faith 
in the people of Goa. If needed the Goa Police should take help from other 
state police department to help them in the findings.

We the people of Goa strongly believe and hope that justice will prevail in 
this case.

Yours Sincerely,

Ricky Fernandes
Goa.

[Goanet] “United We Stand” to be staged shor tly

2010-08-08 Thread tomazinho cardozo


“United We Stand” to be staged shortly

The lovers of English theatre in Goa will get an opportunity to witness 
an English Play “United We Stand” to be staged on 16th August 2010 at 
7:00 pm at Ravindra Bhavan, Margao and on 17th August 2010 at 7:00 pm at 
Kala Academy, Panjim.



Photos:
http://bit.ly/United-We-Stand


The play is originally written in Konkani by Tomazinho Cardozo and it 
has been translated into English by Irene Cardozo. This is the third 
production of English plays of Kala Mogi, Candolim which is doing a 
great service to Goan culture for the last 31 years. Kala Mogi’s earlier 
productions of English plays are:- “The Verdict” in 2006 and “Sweet 
Poison” in 2008. Both these productions were well appreciated by English 
theatre lovers.


“United We Stand” deals with Goa’s communal harmony which has been 
vitiated due to communal approach towards elections by our political 
leaders. It highlights the hopes and aspirations of the youth of Goa for 
achieving communal harmony in the Goan society.


The cast includes Irene Cardozo, Jocelyn Misquita, Shivanand Naik, Zico 
Fernandes, Dnyeaneshwar Morajkar, Selza Lopes, Larisa Fernandes, Mathias 
Mascarenhas, Joy Fernandes, Tukaram Naik and Simonia Cardozo in 
different roles.


Directed by Tomazinho Cardozo the stage sets are designed by Timoty 
Dias, light effects by Dhananjai Phalkar, costumes my Simonia Cardozo 
and background music by Vikas Chopddekar.




Shivanand Naik
Secretary
Kala Mogi

[Goanet] Wildtrek Adventures

2010-08-08 Thread Savio Fernandes

Wildtrek Adventures is organizing A Day Out, on Sunday 8th August 2010. 
Bus will leave Mapusa for Gudi Paroda , Quepem at 8.00am, and have stops 
at Panaji and Margao. Included in the events of the day is brief trek 
and climb to a vantage point, an excellent panoramic view of the 
countryside, Waterfall rocks with a south style and Tamil look, the 
Pandava rocks,  a steep decline to the Rappelling rock, Burma bridge 
across water, archery, shooting and a relax for a fish pedicure. Expect 
the unexpected with us. Lunch, water bottle, snacks all inclusive. Carry 
a backpack for lunch pack and water bottle, change of clothes in case 
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Re: [Goanet] (no subject)

Hello U G Barad,

U should know by now that: all congressman may not be god men; but it is true 
that ALL SAFFRONITES AND SUPPORTERS are Bad and EVIL men.
 They are the Hindu Fascists (the worst shade) and Fascists have historically 
and tradionally been called pigs!I hope to enlighten you.

Nascy.

--- On Sat, 7/8/10, U. G. Barad  wrote:
> My response: I repeat again, I feel sorry for Rajiv Desai,
> for knee-jerking
> second time. Now I'm convinced that Rajiv is nothing beyond
> NUMB
> Kongressmen! Rajiv must not forget that "Truth is always
> bitter to taste".
> Lastly, my frank advise to Rajiv is "If you cannot digest
> the truth, please
> keep yourself away from the truth and start embracing
> dishonesty". may be
> this will be good for you and your health. 
> Just an advise!!
> Best regards,
> 
> U. G. Barad

Re: [Goanet] Fwd: All for just 72000 hectares-how civil society in Goawastes its' energy!

2010-08-08 Thread floriano


Correction
This sentence, in all likelyhood, MUST read like this:

"be sure that by next assembly elections Goans [not 'people of Goa'  ... who 
will by then  mean migrant ghantis dwelling in slums, jopadpatties and rooms 
rented out by bonafide Goans accross Goa] would be stripped of all their 
powers including the right to casting of the ballots".



Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org  for expanded scrolling Party Presentation on the Home 
Page.






- Original Message - 
From: "Dr.Nandkumar Kamat" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 4:47 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Fwd: All for just 72000 hectares-how civil society in 
Goawastes its' energy!




be sure that by next assembly election people of Goa would be stripped
of all their powers except casting the ballots!

Dr. Nandkumar Kamat, GOA

[Goanet] (No subject)


Michael Fernandes (Goanet Digest, Message: 9, Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010) wrote:
"Mr. Albert is perfectly right when he says that the person portrayed
as?Jesus? in the painting "The last supper" by Leonardo Da Vinci is not the
true picture of?Jesus but a figmentation of Leonardo's mind or may be baseda
model posing as?Jesus"


My response: quite interesting posting of Mr. Michael prompts me to ask a
few questions: 1) granted that it's not the true picture of Jesus, but where
on earth one can find the true picture of Jesus? 2) does not your posting
make ones mind prejudiced who thinks that all pictures in all churches are
of Jesus in whom they believe wholeheartedly? Lastly, if it's not the true
picture of Jesus why the big fuss from christian community? 

Best regards,

U. G. Barad

Re: [Goanet] DISTH!

2010-08-08 Thread Gasper Almeida

We also have a Chamar in midst of us here in Kuwait.

AlmeidaG

From: Domnic Fernandes [mailto:domval...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:11 AM
To: Goanet Goanet
Subject: DISTH!

The following extract is from my 12-part series: "The forgotten Tribe - Mhar". 
I am posting it for the benefit of those who may not have read the series:

SORCERY & EXORCISM

In today's world, if anything goes awry we call it 'bad luck.' In the past 
everything was attributed to 'dixtt' (evil eye) cast by someone who was jealous 
of your possessions, prosperity or even general well being. This ancient belief 
was deep-rooted until the late Seventies/early Eighties.

When one was diagnosed with dixtt, he/she was taken to a dixttikar/dixtikarn - 
a person who draws out the negative energies from the body and rids it of the 
'evil eye'.

The Mhars or the so-called lower caste of Goan society had the powers to remove 
evil eye and the tradition would automatically go down to the next generation 
of the family but not if the daughter married a member of a higher caste.

Their hand was said to have the power of being able to rid one of the evil eye 
- they were believed to possess powers of exorcism. The ritual of driving away 
evil spirits was performed on Sundays and Wednesdays - the two days on which 
these powers were believed to be activated.

Children, especially infants, are considered to be the most vulnerable and many 
methods were used to thwart the evil eye. That's why children were always made 
to wear black beaded cords. Black dots of kaajal were applied on the forehead, 
chin and cheeks. Kaajal was also applied around a child's eyes; a black cord or 
a munz was tied around the waist of a child.

People also prepared pendants with owl's nails/bones and tied them in the form 
of small "pottleo" (bundles) on necklaces. Similarly, garlic is believed to be 
a repellant of evil; hence, it was tied in a cloth in the form of a pottli and 
added to a child's necklace.

It is believed these tools can ward off the evil eye cast by people seeing the 
baby for the first time or, if they are envious of the baby's lively 
personality.

When an evil eye is cast on a child, the child cries non-stop, it stops eating 
and eventually falls sick. In the past, those who could afford, would take 
their children to a doctor or consult the elderly and yet find no cure. Their 
next stop would be a dixttikar's/dixttikarn's place.

There are two types of evil eye: One is weaker or mild, the other is of a 
stronger force. Some children get well immediately, others have to visit the 
dixttikar/dixttikarn, at least thrice for a complete cure.

A mild evil eye requires the dixttikar/dixttikarn to say a short prayer while 
he/she sprinkles a few drops of holy water and freshly ground roots of the 
addoso plant. The plant is commonly used in homes to drive away the evil eye.

Mothers are known to pray over their children and sprinkle the mixture of holy 
water and addoso if they appear to be frightened or act strangely. This 
practice is known as "vokot marop" (application of medicine.)

The stronger evil eye, it is believed, does not leave a person straight away. 
It is believed certain people have a 'bad eye' and once cast upon a person, can 
harm the person in an unhealthy way.

To rid of this evil eye, dixttikar/dixttikarn recommends three chillies, a 
handful of salt; an egg, whole bread and a banana to be looped around the head 
of the person in circular motions and discarded at a crossroad. This is called 
'umvaddi vovdavop.' Mothers do this over their children at night and keep them 
indoors till dawn.

A dixttikar/dixttikarn's tools are chilies, a piece of rock candy and one 
mixture of holy water and ground addoso root. Evil eye is removed only on a 
Wednesday and Sunday, the days considered auspicious for cleaning the people.

When it came to chasing away evil eye, spirits, cobras, the Mhars were simply 
the best. Just like a voijinn (mid-wife / local female doctor), the Mhars were 
summoned by Hindus as well as Christians to exorcise evil eye and spirits.

The Mhars were associated with their demon deities. They worshipped the 
devil-god 'Maru', who lived on hilltops and treetops, especially "oddancher" 
(on banyan trees.)

Whenever they wanted to drive away evil, they would call out their devil-god 
thus:

"Oddavoilo Guru, Ximevoilo Maru, amche gorjek pavu."
(Oh devil-god who dwells on the banyan tree and who controls the borders, 
please help us in our need.)

This is why we saw small shrines around the base of odd and pimpoll (fecus 
indica) trees, where Maru was placated with offerings of miniature clay horses. 
Such trees were never cut down. Here's an example:

When one enters Mapusa from Panaji, there is a roundabout with statue of 
Gandhiji. During Portuguese times, there was a big 'oddachem zhadd' (banyan 
tree) with many zageache sorop (snakes belonging to the spot) around it. The 
Hindus lit "telacheo ponntteo" (earthe

[Goanet] Chess Classes at Busy Bugs, Caranzalem Every Friday

2010-08-08 Thread Chess Activitty Centre


Chess Classes at Busy Bugs, Caranzalem  Every Friday

Regular chess coaching classes is started at Busy Bugs A complete hobby 
Centre “Supreme”, Near Kamat Classic, Caranzalem, Panaji Goa, for school 
students, in association with Chess Activity Centre. Class will be 
conducted by Shrikant Barve.


Every Friday 3.00 pm to 4.00 pm for Beginners and
4.15 pm to 5.15 pm for Advance.
For more detail please contact Usha Keny 9822144566 / 2461282

Thank you,


--
Your's
Sanjay Barve (9403176657)
Secretary, Chess Activity Centre

Visit : http://cacgoa.blogspot.com

[Goanet] Why Goan News Channels like HCN and GOA 365 are not included in packages of DishTv , TATA SKY, Reliance TV etc.etc.

2010-08-08 Thread joaquim pereira


Hello Sir,

  SUB: Why Goan News Channels like HCN and GOA 365 are still not 
included in packages of  DishTv , TATA SKY,Reliance TV etc.etc.


  I would be very much obliged if you kindly please Raise / 
Highlight this  issue of the above subject
in your forum so as to to make the Goans aware that we are missing our 
own News channels on the above Dish Tvs.


  Hope so that you will do the needfull.
Thanking you ,
 Jack.


JOAQUIM PEREIRA ( JACK)

Re: [Goanet] ‘HINDU AMERICA and POOR CHRISTIANS’

2010-08-08 Thread Sam Furtado


Re: ‘HINDU AMERICA and POOR CHRISTIANS’

Reading the e-mail of Mr. Mark D’ Souza, in Goanet today, in which he 
states ‘In America there are no anti-conversion laws and there are no 
Christian fundamentalist who will go around bashing Hindu Missionaries 
or vandalizing Hindu temples and here in India there are anti-conversion 
laws and the Hindu fundamentalist go around bashing Christian 
Missionaries and vandalizing churches’ etc is absolutely right and true 
what he has stated and I fully agree with him..


The cause for this could be that the Hindu Fanatics or the few rogue 
elements who have infiltrated the Christian religious order are afraid 
that in the event the Indian populace crosses to the other side of the 
fence and embrace Christianity, then they would loose their true 
identity, which presently allows them to do as the wish and pleased 
without having to answer to God or man, whereas in U. S. of A. first 
commandment examine your conscience and everything there is accounted for.


Also point of Mark and which is an eye opener; is about the Indian 
Clergy, which includes priests, bishops, cardinals who preach from the 
pulpit of serving the poor with cash and kind that includes housing are 
instead misusing church funds and selling church properties
without the knowledge of the parishioners, is a point in contention that 
needs to be closely investigated by the concerned authorities before it 
is too late and the rot sets in.


Sam  Furtado
Bombay

[Goanet] Red tape - Green gallery!!


Hope you all would be interested in reading this editorial. 

Best regards,

U. G. Barad



Mumbai grounded
Author: Editor
Publication: Indian Express
Dated: July 29, 2010


Even to the most distant, detached of observers, it must by now be clear
that Mumbai's airport just cannot handle the city's growing traffic.

Pressure has built on the current airport, in Santa Cruz, for years; and the
civil aviation ministry has warned, over and over again, that air traffic
through Mumbai is quick approaching capacity for a single airport. And now
comes news that, in fact, the airport is beginning to cut back. Civil
Aviation Minister Praful Patel told this newspaper that "there will soon
have to be a general ban on additional flights for turboprop jets in the
private category." Even if there aren't that many of us who travel in
private turboprop aircraft regularly, enough people do visit major financial
centres of the sort Mumbai wants to be, who use planes in that category.

This is an unmistakeable signal that that long-warned-of saturation of the
airport is finally at hand.

Indeed, Patel went on to say that "without additional capacity, I can tell
you that by the end of 2011 it will become very difficult for Mumbai to take
more flights." For the business hub and largest port of a country trying for
double-digit growth, that is more than troubling: it is close to being
disastrous, and for the country as whole, not just Mumbai or Maharashtra.
And what progress has been made, you might well ask, on expanding that
capacity? Why is not another airport in the works? The answer, of course, is
that the second airport, destined for Navi Mumbai, and planned almost as
long as troubles at Santa Cruz have been foreseen, has been the victim of
lazy, dilatory, license-raj "environmentalism".

The environment ministry continues to insist that there's no rush, that we
can sit around while endless impact reports are drafted on slack
bureaucratic-academic schedules, all to save a couple of hundred acres of
mangroves. But that's not all. The land in Navi Mumbai has been identified
but the assumption now is that another 1200 contiguous hectares near Mumbai
can also be found. This laughable condescension has, of course, been shot
down by the environmental impact assessment report prepared by IIT Bombay,
which says that the Navi Mumbai site is "the most feasible and viable
location" for the second airport. But, in its continual search for cheap
applause from the green galleries, the environment ministry has
single-mindedly decided to wrap reams of red tape around the decision. It's
time for someone to tell them to cut that tape, and cut the delay.

[Goanet] "It's a Revenge Review not Tiatr Review" - Comedian Agostinho Temudo

2010-08-08 Thread Goa World


“It’s a Revenge Review not Tiatr Review”


I, Comedian Agostinho, got to know you (I repent it now), for the  first 
time, when I came to perform in Rosary Ferns’ Tiatr at Kuwait. At that 
time, you were introduced to me as “Veronic”. But now in 2010, just as 
Temudo has become “Temuz”, the years have taken its toll and ‘Veronic’ 
has transformed into ‘VIKH’ (Poison). That poison has contaminated your 
whole body and changed you to a RABID MAD DOG. Your actions are enough 
proof, as you bark at anybody and everybody, for no valid reason 
whatsoever, even at religious catholic priests.


Hope you know that, or else confirm it soon, that your sole identity is, 
and you are known as a ‘RABID MAD DOG’ in the whole of Kuwait.


Your dirty conscience started pricking, the moment you saw an almost 
houseful audience present for my hit show “ADVOGAD”. If there were very 
less spectators, you would have been very happy and would have enjoyed 
your sadistic pleasures from the core of your rotten heart.


The timings of my tiatr coincided with the live telecast of one of the 
best matches of the World Cup, between Brazil and Portugal , teams which 
are cherished and have a huge fan following amongst Goans. In spite of 
this, I take pride in revealing to a mad jealous dog like you, that my 
show was patronized by the likes of Mr. Gaspar Crasto, Mr. Britto, and 
scores of football lovers and football players themselves. This goes on 
to prove my worth. If any other Tiatr was to be staged that day at the 
same time instead of ADVOGAD directed by ‘Kalcho Porcho’ Director, the 
ground reality would have been totally different.


I don’t rest on my laurels. But it is a proven fact and a record (Please 
Rabid dog, note it down on your personal diary in red ink) that I am the 
only Konkani tiatrist to perform 18 times at Kuwait, 4 times in my 
Tiatrs viz., SIR, POLICE I , POLICE II & ADVOGAD and the rest of the 14 
times under different Directors, including Kuwait based Directors viz. 
Laurente Pereira, Mario de Majorda, Rosary Ferns, Comedian Philip, Jose 
Rod, KGTS, etc.


Undoubtedly, this speaks volumes that my comedy and my Tiatrs are liked 
and relished by Goan Tiatr lovers and the legion of my fans, to whom I 
am grateful from the bottom of my heart, and thank them profusely for 
the support, love and affection showered upon me. May God bless them 
all. With all this support, I can tread like a Giant and crush a Rabid 
Mad Dog like you under my feet.


Getting back to the so called ‘Review”, let me clarify that my troupe 
and myself arrived at 2 p.m. and were all set to perform by 3.30 p.m. 
Since the venue was new to most of the people, they were finding it 
difficult to find the same and were phoning my organizers that they are 
on their way. As such, I had to wait for the contractor’s green signal 
and hence the delay. This fact was announced a couple of times by your 
good friend, Mr. Rosary Ferns, which you failed to hear, understandably, 
because you are turning deaf due to your old age. How about sponsoring 
you a HEARING AID DEVICE?


And yes, sadly, the GOAN STD TIME was, is and will be followed for ages 
by our susegado Goans. It is beyond our realm to change it, try as we 
may. And I can assure you, cent per cent, that the GST will be followed 
at your last voyage, your funeral, wherever held on Earth.


Regarding the storyline; Rape IS NOT a cheap topic. It is a hot topic, 
as there have been so many rape and murder cases in Goa , which have 
brought a bad name to all upright Goans. Through my humble writing, I 
have tried to show its ill effects on the victims and to educate and 
expose the unscrupulous ADVOGADS who try to shield such perpetrators. 
For selfish people like you, who bury their heads in the sand like 
ostriches and who believe in “One for oneself, God for all”, rape is a 
cheap topic, but it will become hot one day if someone rapes your 
immediate kin or your aged wife.


I humbly agree that I am an immature Director. But I can shout from my 
rooftop, that, in spite of being an immature Director with only 8 
productions, I have scored a double century within a span of 13 months 
from its release, my super duper hit POLICE, a feat rarely achieved, not 
even by more mature directors.


I may be immature, but not an educated illiterate like you, who is 
turning senile by the passage of time.


Before I clarify about the songs, please identify my actors correctly, 
or get your vision corrected. You called JAJU – Juju and Salu D’Souza 
was reported as Salu Faleiro, so much for your corrupt knowledge !!


The Trio on religious amity, sung by JAJU-XAV-SAL, was my subject but 
composed by Xavier Gomes. The Duet sung by Selvy-Anita was also my idea, 
composed by Francis de Tuem, and once again, the Duo sung by Roma & 
Steffi was also my subject, penned by Benny Rebello.


I state without fear, that the story idea, writing and direction is 
totally my baby. Every word in the comedy sequences is my p

[Goanet] Vancouver Island Questions

2010-08-08 Thread Edgar de Montreal

Wondering if there is any GoaNetter living on the Vancouver Island. I
have some questions.some weather related. Do contact me privately.

Many thanks.

[Goanet] Selma Carvalho: Who the bleep cares about interpretations?

2010-08-08 Thread Eddie Fernandes

Title: Who the bleep cares about interpretations?
By: Selma Carvalho
Source: Goan Voice, Daily Newsletter, 8 Aug. 2010 at www.goanvoice.org

Full text:

There was a time when one could go into a bookstore and confidently expect
to find a book on Hindu mythology resting peacefully, wedged between Greek
mythology and Egyptian mythology. There was an understanding at a certain
level that Hindu mythology was just that, a myth. An allegorical
interpretation of the world by drawing parallels from an unexplained natural
world, through anecdote, analogy and parable. Scholars draw similarities
between various myths. James G. Frazer in his definitive work, the Golden
Bough has traced the creation myth in even small, isolated communities of
the world, the Flood makes an appearance in mythology from Mesopotamia to
India and the Saviour God who dies to save his people and then resurrects
finds resonance in almost every society which draws a parallel to the
agricultural cycle of death and rebirth. 

The recent hullabaloo raised by right-wing groups, the HJS and the SS, in
Goa over Dr Jose Pereira's pictorial interpretations of Hindu mythology and
specifically his interpretation of Krishna's relationship with Radha, are
worrying on two accounts. First it seeks to expunge any hint of sexuality in
mythology. There is a renaissance of the old puritanical vice of associating
sex with impropriety; a demeaning of the spiritual and sullying of all
things pure. Yet, scholars have found many similarities between Krishna and
the Greek God Dionysus, among which are their fondness for women. Sexuality
was linked to fertility which was absolutely essential for the propagation
of life, the promise of which was tenuous at best. Sexuality was not to be
curtailed; in fact it was to be encouraged by all means.

The second more worrying aspect is the increasing need by radicalized Hindus
to claim proprietorial rights over Hindu mythology and then to interpret it
as a reality rather than as analogy. Imagine for a moment if Greeks and
Egyptians suddenly claim ownership of their respective mythologies. These
have been studied by scholars across the world totally devoid of any
religious connotation and yet these too were venerated deities at one time.
How absurd would it be if the Greeks took umbrage every time the frivolous
Cupid was flashed across Valentine cards. Surely, there is an understanding
that these ancient wisdoms are not the property of any one particular
culture or religious sect. Rather they are universally owned now, in the
public domain for all to study and interpret as they wish. Their
interpretation by "outsiders" are not to be viewed with suspicion and anger.


Perhaps even more regressive is the need to find a reality in what is
essentially a myth. Our understanding of science and our natural world, must
necessarily mean that we accord mythology its rightful place. Perhaps, as
Deepak Chopra suggests, as archetypes that live on in our human
consciousness. But certainly the wind Gods, the fire Gods, Zeus, Apollo,
Hera, the stealing of fire by Prometheus or the abduction of Persephone by
Hades is not a reality. This obsessive need to translate what is essentially
myth into a reality has caused untold misery in India. It has brought down
mosques, caused riots, resulted in carnage, the exile of one of my valued
artists and almost every other month some other treachery is threatened on
anyone who dares to "misinterpret" that which has now become  private
property of a few self-appointed custodians.

Dialogue and serious scholarly study in a free society should never cease.
What sullies religious and theological profundity or cultural traditions is
not alternative interpretations but threats to have these interpretations
stifled and indeed literally cut off. When we speak of cutting off the hands
of our greatest intellectuals, we in fact cut off the voice of our most
profound thoughts. 

This sadly is not the sign of a progressive society but rather one that is
in regression.

Do leave your feedback at carvalho_...@yahoo.com

Re: [Goanet] Amazing Art Work by an Amazing Artist

2010-08-08 Thread joelds

Thanks a lot, Venantius. It's very useful for us non-artists.
Regards.
Joel.

On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Venantius J Pinto <
venantius.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Amazing Art Work by an Amazing Artist
> Steven Wiltshire "The living Camera"
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utv7DfnUBBE&feature=related
>

[Goanet] Goa project- some pictures.

2010-08-08 Thread Edgar de Montreal

Some pictures from a project I am working on folks holding on to their
possessions/their identity in an environment where their properties
and possessions are targets by real estate, antique dealers and other
assorted '**". Anyway, these pictures need to be re-worked but I'm
posting them anyways.

(slide show)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoart/sets/72157624004233216/show/with/4583991688/

Here is a picture  from 2005 (taken with a point and shoot and in
passing, so not very clear) from a chapel which was being repaired;
the person from the area informed that the piece was stolen (I think I
posted this earlier). Apparently some antique dealers had offered to
buy the piece some time ago.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoart/63794153/

Cheers.

[Goanet] AISI: Our 9 hours at Goa Legislative Assembly/Complex (a pictorial report)

AISI: Our 9 hours at Goa Legislative Assembly/Complex
 
Entry Passes:
There is a form to fill in and obtain any MLA’s signature 
on it.  You will then be issued a pass.
Best is to get it from your local MLA, as they have their 
own quota.
 
We were there at 10.45 but we were refuse entry saying 
it is too early.
Then we came back after 11 and at 11.15 all gallery 
seating full up.
They say there is no room to accommodate 25 old members
 of public (including us 3)  with valid entry passes with mention 
of respective block number on it.

The situation there reminded me of Indian Railways 
General Compartment/bogie
Where any number of tickets are issued e.g. for a 
71 seater bogie over 200 tickets issued.
 
Public Galleries:
There are in all 6, one of which reserved for the Press
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4868285202/

 but press or media men seen in all galleries.  
Each gallery has about 50 chairs so the seating capacity 
of the house for general public is about 250. 
Guess what? Out of this, over 200 school children 
were occupying the gallery at one time including the steps/floor. 
4 Galleries were full of school kids
>From 4/5 different schools  see pic
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4867676769/
 
This was not very nice which result in denying others 
with valid passes.
They had to wait till 12.30 when the school kids 
vacated their seats/gallery.
After the lunch time, there were two more school 
batches occupied the two galleries.
How we managed to get in just on time?
Well, a door keeper (Migrant, Pvt ‘Active Security’) was 
kind enough to let us in, when we said we don’t mind 
seating on the floor/steps.  Inside, we found two vacant chairs.
 
Security:
What about the security at the main entrance?
I must say, it was not up to the mark.
No frisking at all.
We were carrying cameras and mobiles and we got away 
with it.
(the cameras which we were carrying could have been something else
 but this is something for the security dept 
to seriously look into i.e. Security lapse I mean)
 
However, the Pass (reverse of it) clearly says
No mobile, Cameras, hand bags, umbrellas, sticks, books etc 
 
see pic
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4867691107/
But almost all MLAs had mobile with them in the house.
Even, I saw a mobile like thing on speaker’s desk
 
Another interesting part was the pass also said..
‘Visitors should not sit with crossed legs’
I really don’t know what it means or even if I know what 
harm it makes?
More than half of the MLAs in the house seen with 
their crossed legs and it could be all of them as camera 
cannot see all 40 MLAs from one angle.
However, whatever was possible is capture here, see this pic.
MLAs with crossed legs
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4870857429/sizes/l/
 
The session starts at 11.30
At this time the house was about half full.
Later comers were 
Babush 11.50
Nerri 11.55
Davlikar 12
Churchill 12
Reginaldo 12.05
Francis Silveira 12.40
Mauvin 2.30
Joaquim 2.30
Ravi 2.30  etc etc
 
Although there are breaks such as lunch time/ Tea time etc
MLAs are seen going in and out as often as possible.
At one time there were less than 16 legislators in the house 
of 40.
Speakers keep on talking but for whom?
Even the Speaker of the house seen busy going through 
the docs etc
And the speakers/MLAs  keep referring to ‘Speaker Sir’ 
in their speeches as if speaker listens to them all the time. 
Digu is missing, Parrikar is missing, babush is missing 
and so on and the speeches after speeches keep on going.
 
When the no confidence motion against the 
Speaker Rane taken up, 
there was a full house.  And the motion was defeated 
by 23/14 head counts/votes.
Jr. Rane and Anil seen sitting as if they voted against 
the speaker.
Visvajit being not an MLA, I think he is not allowed to vote.
 
At least two members in their speech said 
‘Rane is like their fatherly figure for he is in the house 
35 years’.  But Rane confirmed in his speech that he is 
infact 38 years experience legislator.
 
Opposition labeled the Rane as ‘not neutral as speaker’ 
They even referred to newspapers ‘Hindu’ etc  which 
reported the then Assembly (31/8/07) incidence 
as  ‘Constitutional fraud’
 
Mr. Parrikar said to Sudin Davlikar 
(Minister for Social Welfare) that 
he can easily obtain (by paying bribe) an income Certificate 
in the name of  Sudin/Minister showing his income 
just Rs.5,000.
 
Our St. Andre MLA Francis Silveira made a demand that 
Agassaim Police station should have one 108 ambulance, 
a hospital at  Neura/Mandur besides a 
‘Che-pel’ and a temple at Goa medical College.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4868283040/
 
Speaker Rane in his speech said to Parrikar 
‘I know you are high in IT etc 
but do not monopolise to yourself, give others (his MLAs)  
a chance to talk too’
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4868290180/
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk27/4867679703/
 
Minister Sudin was announcing the different welfare 
schemee old and new but

[Goanet] A situation worth reading about.

2010-08-08 Thread J. Colaco < jc>

Dears,

While this well-known (I hope) story is from Nigeria, it could very
well be relevant to Goa.

Have fun

jc
the reference url is at the foot of this post.
==

Swindlers, Church of Painted Breast and other stories

Armed robbers have held and continued to hold the nation hostage. Some
civil servants are sharing the common wealth in the name of Christmas
bonus. Some politicians use human beings for rituals in order to get
power and loot the treasury. Many contractors collect billions of
naira to fix our poor infrastructure, but pocket the money and do
nothing. The petrol attendant manipulates the pumping machine to
short-change the unwary customer.

The entire system is rotten. We have been oscillating between one
scandal and the other: Ettehgate; Siemens scandal; Wilbros scam;
national ID card swindle; power sector scam; Christmas bonus loot and
so on. There seems to be no end in sight. No leader seems to believe
in Nigeria. The mantra appears to be, grab as much loot as possible as
there may not be any Nigeria tomorrow.

We are undoing ourselves and nobody else. This is why almost every
young Nigerian wants to run away from the country. I met a young man
recently at Imo Concord Hotel, Owerri. He desperately wanted to leave
Nigeria. He asked me how much it would cost him to travel to London to
either work or do business. My advice that he should continue with his
work at the hotel fell on deaf ears. He enthused that he had just got
his passport (as if passport is all that is needed to travel abroad)
and his parents really wanted him to leave Nigeria. In 2007 alone, the
United States Department of Homeland Security reportedly deported
about 50,000 Nigerians from that country.

Nigerians face humiliating treatment from other Western nations. Some
are serving various jail sentences abroad. And Foreign Affairs
Minister, Ojo Maduekwe, thinks he is doing them a favour by asking
them to serve their jail terms at home. The minister complained last
week that Nigerian prisoners abroad had rejected his
come-and-complete-your-sentences-at-home application. According to
him, Nigeria will demand respect, fair and lawful treatment for her
citizens even when they allegedly commit crimes.

Maduekwe gladdened my heart when he was quoted to have said, ”To
create the kind of loyalty that Nigeria deserves, we must go back and
ensure effective and responsible governance that touches on the lives
of the people.” Until leaders at all levels imbibe this exhortation,
Nigerians will continue to troop out and commit crimes. And foreigners
will always treat us as a people who can do such foolish things as
painting their breasts to swindle a church.

http://us.yhs.search.yahoo.com/avg/search?fr=yhs-avgb&type=yahoo_avg_hs2-tb-web_us&p=church%20painted%20breast%20bbc

Re: [Goanet] Travelling by Cargo ships, freighters around the world

2010-08-08 Thread Edgar de Montreal

Wondering if any one has experiences sending cargo (personal items)
back to Goa?...you know a few books, forks and spoons. I called the
freight company and they wanted to know size in shipping terms.
Unfortunately, as a lay person, one did not understand how to size the
items in their measures, so I gave up.

Feel free to write me privately,

Thank You.

nantius J Pinto  wrote:
> How to Travel by Cargo
> Sh
> ip
> http://thetravelersnotebook.com/how-to/how-to-travel-by-cargo-ship/
>
> http://en.allexperts.com/q/Adventure-Travel-1837/travel-cargo-ships.htm
>
> Not sure whether Indian ships allow this/or are allowed to take passengers.
> 
> venantius j pinto
>
> * * *

Re: [Goanet] ravindra kelekar

2010-08-08 Thread floriano



COMMENTS:

Let me relate some tidbits that I have been told about this  still living
great Konkani Language scion - Ravindra Kelekar.

1963-1965 he immersed himself to defend Goa's heritage, it's Language
KONKANI and thereby mount a fight against Bandodkar's Merger of Goa into
Maharashtra. It is believed that there were only a handful of persons [ 4 to
5] who were with him, believing in what he believed, i.e.  that KONKANI is
the bonafide LANGUAGE of Goans and therefore it must be preserved at all
costs. Practically the Goan Hindu world believed to the contrary i.e. that
Konkani was a dialect of Marathi and therefore of no consequence. This
wide-spread attitude of the Goan Hindu world made  Ravindra Kelekar
altogether a laughing stalk A member of the Indian National Congress, he got
his break when young and vibrant Victoria Fernandes wanted to try her hand
at politics, approached him at the Congress House. One thing led to another
and gauging her burning desire to do something, Ravindra Kelekar challenged
her to muster a strenght of just 10 to fifteen women. When she shot back "I
will get 50",  he was a little skeptical. But spektical no more when she
came to him with 50 women who wanted to do something, and thereafter the
fight never dimmed, especially with 'NAVI XHALA' a potent Konkani
publication. Enter Manoharai Sardesai, a graduate of Sorborne Uninversity,
France, Shankar Bhandari of Cumbarjua, Udai Bhembre and possibly other few
stalwarts for Konkani and against Merger, the fight was now rolling.

Today's  Goadoot edition has brought out a piece on Dr. Euclido Manuel
Francisco Ramiro D'Souza, born 3 February 1921; died 31 July, 2010, another
die-hard Konkani protagonist from Cuncolim who still, it is believed, has
the house name plate announcing the name as SESHGIRI SURIA VAMSHI. Ravidra
Kelekar, no doubt will be honoured after his death to be standing side by
side   Dr. Euclido Manuel Francisco Ramiro D'Souza  for their achievements
for GOA in the company of the Goan stalwart  Francisco Luis Gomes who, it is
said that  when prompted by the great French poet Lamartin as to who he was,
had replied that he a person who comes from the race who composed Mahabarata
and who gave the game of Chess to the world.

There always have been a clear 'earning' in my heart to visit Ravindra
Kelekar and have a one to one chat with him. Therefore, a year or so ago, I
did manage to get a slot to meet with him at his Priol  spread accompanied
by my colleague in the party, Dr. N.S. Dumo, who has always held Ravindra
Kelekar in highest of esteem for what he has done for Konkani and for Goa
vis a vis Merger. In Dr. Dumo's own words "I have grown up a total Goan but
with the background of Marathi. And I had thought that Ravindra Kelekar's
fight for Konkani was such a waste of time, until I realized that Konkani
did have a statutory place as Goa's Official Language - My hats off to him".
However, the meeting was a 'damp squib' and a big disapointment for a person
who want to see the Goa fighters glow,  as I found that frail but still
alert Ravindra Kelekar only wanted  to bask in the glory of his creditable
achievements for Konkani and for Goa and had no more stamina to likewise
bring about the downfall of his own dear Congress Party who was destroying
his dear dear Goa for which he has incessantly fought so hard. And I wonder
if he ever did have a moment of spare time or the desire to leaf through the
'Road Map for GOA' that I had presented to him and when he had promised to
go through it and let me know what he thought of it.

However, I shall keep my memoirs alive of having met and talked to this
great Goan Scion and I shall certainly pay my last respects to him when the
time comes for him to depart, all for Goa and  for Konkani.

Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org for expanded scrolling Party Presentation on the Home
Page.



- Original Message - 
From: "Shiv Kumar" 

To: "raju nayak" ; 
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 10:38 AM
Subject: [Goanet] ravindra kelekar



The Tribune has a profile of Ravindra Kelekar. No I haven't written it.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2010/20100808/edit.htm#5

shiv kumar

Re: [Goanet] Travelling by Cargo ships, freighters around the world

In my time, the ships of the SCI used to allow some passengers, if suitable 
accommodation is available; though this is not recommended as it involves 
issues of asfety, care and insurance laiabilities for everyone.

Nascy.

--- On Sat, 7/8/10, Venantius J Pinto  wrote:
> Not sure whether Indian ships allow this/or are allowed to
> take passengers.
> 
> venantius j pinto
>

[Goanet] Fwd: All for just 72000 hectares-how civil society in Goa wastes its' energy!

2010-08-08 Thread Dr.Nandkumar Kamat

-- Forwarded message --
From: "Dr.Nandkumar Kamat" 
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 22:42:23 +0530
Subject: All for just 72000 hectares-how civil society in Goa wastes
its' energy!
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org

"do you mean that only about 7 hectares would be left for spatial planning"
Arch. Edgar Ribeiro who was taking down notes while we were discussing
(not a presentation before RP task force) on Oct. 7, 2007 at CM's
residence asked me...
"yes, that's it and therefore the  whole RP business does not make sense to me"
I had replied.
Now the government admits in the assembly that RP-2021 excludes 297400
hectares of ecosensitive areas.
A fact which forest (govt. and private forests, mangroves) ,
agriculture, water resources (command areas) , environment (CRZ) etc.
depts. always knew and about which I had always written.
Goa's total area is (after excluding 700 hactres of area under island
of Anjedives surrendered to Indian Navy) stands at 370300 ha.
Delete 297400 of statutorily covered ecosensitive area.
Then we are left with just 72900 ha. for any sort of land use planning.
Remember this area is distributed over 189 village panchayats, 13
municipal councils and the CCP. A simple calculation would show on
average just about 360 ha. per local authority.
and for such a minuscule area Goa needs a regional Plan to tie
everyone's hands legally,  technically, cartographically-for next 11
years, esp. in villages!. A plan which no other smaller or larger
state or union territory in India is interested to prepare.  A plan
which government views academically and as the panchayat minister has
assured-" Illegal constructions can be legalized"
Let us see the galaxy of saints who would implement the new regional
plan for a mighty area of 72900 hectares (hundreds of talukas or
tehsils in India are larger than this).
An excellent example of how civil society in Goa wastes its' energy.
Now it would be difficult to jump from the RP-2021 ship!
be sure that by next assembly election people of Goa would be stripped
of all their powers except casting the ballots!

Dr. Nandkumar Kamat, GOA

-- 
Dr. Nandkumar Kamat, GOA

[Goanet] Piecing together the fascinating story of Goan migration (Devika Sequeira, Deccan Herald)

2010-08-08 Thread Goanet News

Piecing together the fascinating story of Goan migration

Devika Sequeira in Panaji
devikaseque...@gmail.com

Murumbi had studied
in two schools in
Bangalore and Bellary

Joseph Murumbi perhaps best epitomises the complex, yet
fascinating story of Goan migration. The son of a Goan trader
and a Maasai woman, Murumbi (1911-1990) born Joseph
Murumbi-Zuzarte was the first foreign minister of independent
Kenya and went on to become the country's vice-president
under Jomo Kenyatta. He resigned that post in under a year
after the assassination of Goan-Kenyan freedom fighter Pio
Gama Pinto.

  One of the greatest collectors of African art,
  Murumbi and his wife Sheila co-founded the African
  Heritage Pan-African Art Gallery with Alan Donovan.
  The Murumbi Peace Memorial was put up in tribute to
  their memory in the Nairobi City Park.

Murumbi's father Peter Nicholas Zuzarte's intrepid journey
from the North Goa village of Guirim to Baringo, Kenya in
1897 is just one of the many highly engaging accounts of Goan
migration retold by London-based Selma Carvalho in 'Into The
Diaspora Wilderness'. He set sail from Bombay to Aden, and
then in a German boat for the port of Zanzibar, arriving in
Mombassa on a dhow.

Possessed of a steely determination, he walked from Mombassa
to Baringo, a distance of over 600 kilometres," she writes.
Zuzarte set up the Londiani Trading Company in Baringo, where
he met the daughter of a Maasai medicine man. The
relationship would eventually break up, with Zuzarte marrying
Ezalda Clara Albuquerque, already a mother of nine.

Murumbi moved with his father to his new family and at six,
says Carvalho, was sent to school India, first to Good
Shepherd School Convent and later to St Joseph's High School,
both in Bangalore. A detail perhaps little known is that he
passed out of St Pancras European Boys High School, Bellary.

  Carvalho's book, set for its India-launch in early
  August, started a little over two years ago when
  she felt the urge to tell her own story in the
  diaspora.  Her family moved to Dubai and from there
  to other parts of the world. "I didn't want to tell
  the story in a vacuum and so I began constructing
  the economic and political backdrop to it," she
  says of the collection of personal, family and
  community stories picked up from long days of
  interviews and hours of sifting through archival
  material.

Intriguingly much of the material for the Africa chapters was
right there in England, where Carvalho is based.

"The East Africa diaspora are now residents of the UK or
Canada, having left Africa in the aftermath of
post-Independence Africanisation policies. The stories of a
bygone era were waiting to be told and I was an avid
listener. I am only the narrator. It is their story which
lives now only in their ageing memory."

  Etched into our memory now is the account of the
  acerbic British historian and explorer Richard
  Burton who set out on his 1856 East Africa
  expedition accompanied by two Goan servants and
  Captain Hanning Speke. Thrown into a completely new
  and terrifying environment, nothing could have
  prepared Valentine Andrade and Caetano Rodrigues
  for the "severity of Africa", Carvalho writes. But
  the men survived and on one occasion, one of them
  had to dive into crocodile infested waters to
  recover Burton's gun.

Thousands of Goans have worked as cooks and stewards on board
British ships, returning after long journeys to do up their
family houses in the villages. In more recent years, young
Goan men armed with the Portuguese citizenship (Goans are
still entitled to one) have headed to the UK. With some 8,000
Goans now estimated to live there, Swindon has possibly the
most robust concentration of Goans in the UK, says Carvalho.

Back in Goa, with so many young men migrating from the
village, the parish priest of Agacaim has been hard put to
assemble a village football team.

"Because human beings are constantly in a state of evolution,
we want to find comfort in the past while charting a future.
I merely responded to this longing in my writing," says
Carvalho who believes the stories of Goans who left its
shores are as integral to piecing the community's collective
identity as of those that stayed behind.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/86883/piecing-together-fascinating-story-goan.html

[Goanet] OBAMA FEAR's HINDU FUNDAMENTALIST's..

2010-08-08 Thread Vasant Baliga

Dear Santosh,
Obama has always been a closet Hindu-he appointed Sonal Shah to a high position 
inspite of Opposition from the Indian American secularists.She was accused of 
RSS links.He also has admitted carrying a Hanuman idol at all times for good 
luck.
Last month his administration announced that it had appointed  Preeta D. Bansal 
to serve as the Vice Chair (Government Official) of the Council  of the 
Administrative Conference of the U.S. (ACUS). Ms. Bansal’s appointment  follows 
closely on the heels of a similar announcement last week, of Nisha Desai  
Biswal, who was nominated to the post of Assistant Administrator for Asia in 
the  
U.S. Agency for International Development. 

When their appointments are confirmed, the two women will join the  large and 
growing club of Indian-American and Hindu Obama appointees, which already  
includes Rajiv Shah, Administrator, USAID, Vivek Kundra, Federal Chief  
Information Officer and Aneesh Chopra, First Chief Technology Officer.
There are rumours in Indonesia-that his mother secretly baptised him as a Hindu 
in Bali and probably this explains why his half sister is named Maya.
Now one hears that he is behind the conversion of Julia Roberts to Hinduism and 
that the movie Eat,Pray and Love is financed by Islamic Sympathisers of Obama 
from the Middle East and Kenya.
Watch out-there are rumours that India's God Kings will accompany the Obamas to 
Tirupati during his visit in November.
Cheers
Vasant


  

* * *

Was life in the *kudds* glamourised? Who said, "It appears that the Goanese 
(sic) are a roving people, prepared to go to any part of the world for 
well-paid employment"? How did Goans find their first toehold in the Gulf? Find 
your answers in Selma
Carvalho's *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Buy from
Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in
Goa only) Rs 295.  http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

* * *

[Goanet] Barack Hussein Obama Jr.

2010-08-08 Thread Antonio Menezes

Obama Jr. , the White Resident  at Washington DC. was born to Barack Hussein
Obama Sr. , an ethnic Jaluo
tribesman from a village near Kendu Bay a small settlement on the shore of
Lake Victoria in Kenya,
who came as a student  tp Hawaii and Ann Dunham (Irish surname ? ) a white
girl originally from Kansas
in mid-USA.  They met at a Russian language class of the University of
Hawaii.  It would appear that fate
brought them together on the night celebrating a most thrilling Presidential
election of John Fitgerald
Kennedy , a Democrat, in November,1960.   Obama Jr. was born on the 4th
August , 1961. Parents
separated after only two years of marriage.

Obama Sr.  (b.1936 ) returned to Kenya , worked as an Economist  in a Kenya
Govt. Dept.  but died in a car
accident in November, 1982.  Apparently he was born a Muslim but became
Agnostic later in his life.

But what is more interesting is the story of Obama Jr. paternal grandfather
Onyango Obama (1895 - 1979 )
He started his career as a cook for Christian missionaries in Nairobi and
later joined Kings African Rifles
as an askari. During his career as armyman  he was posted in Europe, India
and Zanzibar.  It was in
Zanzibar that he gave up his Roman Catholicism and became a Muslim - Hussein
Onyango Obama.

* * *

Was life in the *kudds* glamourised? Who said, "It appears that the Goanese 
(sic) are a roving people, prepared to go to any part of the world for 
well-paid employment"? How did Goans find their first toehold in the Gulf? Find 
your answers in Selma
Carvalho's *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Buy from
Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in
Goa only) Rs 295.  http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

* * *

Re: [Goanet] Some anti-plagiarism software

2010-08-08 Thread Gilbert Lawrence

Hi Santosh,

In one week, you are an expert on another subject. In your spam mail on this 
topic, you plagiarized the article about plagiarism as well as violated its 
copyright protection.  For the former you should be ashamed. For the latter you 
could get financial penalties.  But I digress, as previously stated, I am not 
an 
expert on this topic.

They tell me that I am good.  But even I know, this supurlo goenkar is not that 
good.  I can only do one DRE (digital rectal exam) at a time.  Right now I am 
dealing with your "you-know-what." Perhaps like a good friend (providing 
protection when things get hard), you are doing him a 'por favor'.

So once he convinces us that his writings do not fall into category of 
plagiarism, I will address your 'sodachem' bogus concerns and claims. Please do 
not tell me that his TGF (This Goan Forum) website passed through the 
anti-plagiarism software program.  I hope our friendly expert does not go 
silent 
on us, when it comes to applying his plagiarism theories to his own practice.

Till we accomplish the above, please sit on your hands and keep your fingers 
busy; instead of working your keyboard.  Let us hope we can do the above before 
the weekend ends.  I thought you were tired of me analyzing your writings. I 
certainly am. That should be a relief for you for now  for another two 
weeks.

Right now, do not come close to us. I do not know what JC will do during 
the DRE.  And some of his could splash on you. I may have to do a two-finger 
DRE 
...  just to get a 'second opinion'.:=))  This is a likely possibility, 
especially if he weasels.  Over the few years, he has been weaseling a lot on 
this topic, both on-and-off goanet.  

Some goanetters are likely having their weekend laughs.  Please do not do it 
too 
loudly. You may wake the chickens and neighbors.

Regards, GL


  

* * *

Was life in the *kudds* glamourised? Who said, "It appears that the Goanese 
(sic) are a roving people, prepared to go to any part of the world for 
well-paid employment"? How did Goans find their first toehold in the Gulf? Find 
your answers in Selma
Carvalho's *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Buy from
Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in
Goa only) Rs 295.  http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

* * *

Re: [Goanet] Some anti-plagiarism software

2010-08-08 Thread Santosh Helekar

--- On Fri, 8/6/10, Gilbert Lawrence  wrote:
>
>I am sure most on the spam list were victims like me; but my special >empathy 
>goes to the Goanet moderators on the spam list.
> 

Gilbert appears to be trying to insult other Goans and members of other Goan 
mailing lists once again. He was asked to do the honorable thing and retract 
his falsehoods when he did this repeatedly the last time, and lied about one of 
these mailing lists on Goanet in the following post:

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-July/196590.html

Please see my earlier request for retraction:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GoenchimXapotam/message/28965

This is my third reminder to Gilbert to retract his calumny on Goanet.

Furthermore, in the present post, for some reason he has also injected 
unnecessary confusion into the legal definition of plagiarism, without 
providing any reference to an authentic original source for his claims. It is 
clear that he has foolishly confused copyright with plagiarism. I provide below 
the correct legal definition of plagiarism:

QUOTE
Intentional or unintentional use of another's words or ideas without 
acknowledging this use constitutes plagiarism: There are four common forms of 
plagiarism:

* The duplication of an author's words without quotation marks and accurate 
references or footnotes.
* The duplication of author's words or phrases with footnotes or accurate 
references, but without quotation marks.
* The use of an author's ideas in paraphrase without accurate references or 
footnotes.
* Submitting a paper in which exact words are merely rearranged even though 
footnoted.
UNQUOTE

Please see - http://definitions.uslegal.com/p/plagiarism/

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Fri, 8/6/10, Gilbert Lawrence  wrote:
>
> Plagiarism has well-defined legal
> definition. I do not know the precise clauses; 
> but they are not whatever the know-it-all Goanetters
> make-up. Complying 
> with the regulations, requires not only providing a
> reference or web-link; but 
> also requires the author's and publisher's  prior
> permission to use their work.  
> Plagiarism also applies to using other peoples' work on
> the web and on one's 
> web-site. (wink ... wink). Despite the soft-ware,
> plagiarism like pornography 
> can be easily detected ... as we showed in your writing
> about immunization in 
> Goa or the details about SFX in your writings.  None of
> what you wrote was 
> original research. Was It?
> 
> The morally lowest form of ethics in plagiarism is to
> present someone else's 
> work as the main basis to advance one's own standing and
> career - be in print, 
> web article, website or speech. So web-surfing one or two
> articles, does 
> not pass as "critical reading" of the subject, or qualify
> one to claim to be 
> expert in that field  despite repeated claims. 
> 
> 
> I am not at all defending plagiarism. Yet, our Goan
> "authorities" on the 
> topic may want to apply the plagiarism rules to
> themselves.  Remember the famous 
> phrase, "point a finger at someone, and three fingers are
> pointing back."  So 
> stop being hypocritical. We have known your silly games all
> along. 
> 
> 
> As far as hate-mail is concerned, a lot of this applies to
> you Dr. Colaco. Some, 
> me included, have put you on notice to stop your crack-pot
> assertions; whether 
> in jest or otherwise. From now on, you will get as good as
> or even worse than 
> what you give.  Please share this useful information with
> your family in 
> advance. We do not want a repeat of the "Toronto saga".
> 
> It appears that we have seen the end of the disgusting spam
> mails. Some Goans 
> felt that their "brilliance" gave them a god-given right
> to down-load their cr#p 
> to other Goans' computers in their private study room;
> despite repeated polite 
> requests to refrain from doing so. I am sure most on the
> spam list were victims 
> like me; but my special empathy goes to the Goanet
> moderators on the spam list.
> 
> Regards, GL 
> 

* * *

Was life in the *kudds* glamourised? Who said, "It appears that the Goanese 
(sic) are a roving people, prepared to go to any part of the world for 
well-paid employment"? How did Goans find their first toehold in the Gulf? Find 
your answers in Selma
Carvalho's *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Buy from
Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in
Goa only) Rs 295.  http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

* * *

[Goanet] S.C.O.G.O.....

2010-08-08 Thread Gabe Menezes

.stands for ''Standing Conference Of Goan Organisations'' This was a
grouping of the G.O.A. (U.K.) together with the Vullage Associations in the
U.K.

It was disbanded at an A.G.M. without having been put on the Agenda. I was
present at that meeing when it was decided that the G.O.A. would take on the
Annual Festival as its own baby, the Village Associations had no input and
were not consulted.

This was wrongly done and needs to be corrected. The various Village
Associations need to be invited along with the broader umbrella of people
concerned, to determine whether they wish to disband S.C.O.G.O.

Former S.C.O.G.O. Presidents need to call a meeting to redress this
injustice perpetrated upon the Members of S.C.O.G.O.; should the Village
Associations take it lying down?


"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" Gal. 4:16

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

* * *

Was life in the *kudds* glamourised? Who said, "It appears that the Goanese 
(sic) are a roving people, prepared to go to any part of the world for 
well-paid employment"? How did Goans find their first toehold in the Gulf? Find 
your answers in Selma
Carvalho's *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Buy from
Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in
Goa only) Rs 295.  http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

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[Goanet] Cardinal attacks US over Lockerbie bomber reaction

2010-08-08 Thread Gabe Menezes

Cardinal attacks US over Lockerbie bomber reaction
[image: Cardinal Keith O'Brien] Cardinal O'Brien said the Scottish
government had done nothing wrong

The leader of the Roman Catholic Church in Scotland has attacked the US over
the release of the Lockerbie bomber.

Cardinal Keith O'Brien said the Scottish government was right to free
Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi last year on compassionate grounds.

US lawmakers want Scots politicians to explain their decision to a committee
but the cardinal said ministers should not go "crawling like lapdogs".

He said Scotland had a culture of care, while the US was fixed on vengeance.

Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill released Megrahi, who has
prostate cancer, after being told that three months was a "reasonable
estimate" of his life expectancy.
'Invidious company'

However, he is still alive after almost a year and the decision continues to
provoke anger in the United States, which was home to 189 of the 270 people
killed on board Pan Am flight 103 in 1988.

In an interview with BBC Scotland, Cardinal O'Brien said Americans were too
focused on retribution.

"In many states - more than half - they kill the perpetrators of horrible
crimes, by lethal injection or even firing squad - I say that is a culture
of vengeance," he said.

"An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth - that is not our culture in
Scotland and I would like to think that the US government, and these states
that do still have capital punishment, would learn something from us."
 [image: Megrahi shortly after release] Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi was
released last August

The cardinal said Americans should "direct their gaze inwards" rather than
scrutinise how the Scottish justice system worked.

He said the use of the death penalty meant the US kept "invidious company"
with countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran.

"In some states it's month by month now that they are killing people who
have a right to live, whatever they've done wrong," he said.

He also backed the Scottish government's decision not to give evidence to
American senators investigating Megrahi's release.

"The Scottish government has made the decision and the Scottish government
is answerable to the Scottish people - not the US government or US citizens.

"Everyone acted according to Scots law in releasing Megrahi on compassionate
grounds, having taken medical advice.

"I still think they did the right thing, although the man is still alive.

"We shouldn't be crawling out to America, or having them come here and
questioning us on our own territory."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-10905562


-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

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Was life in the *kudds* glamourised? Who said, "It appears that the Goanese 
(sic) are a roving people, prepared to go to any part of the world for 
well-paid employment"? How did Goans find their first toehold in the Gulf? Find 
your answers in Selma
Carvalho's *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Buy from
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[Goanet] RIVER PRINCESS

2010-08-08 Thread John Gomes

I have asked a simple question,since all  whom I ask cannot fathom what is 
going on.!
1)Illegal entry into Port 2)By-passing all rules3)Ran aground as result thereof 
and enquiry held4)No one indicted or brought to justice5)Matter even gone to 
High Court 6)Madgaonkars could have easily removed it when it went aground.Goan 
expertise and availability in Goa, not encouraged and in fact belittled/ 
discouraged by government7) Experts and consultants and God knows how much 
corruption and kick-backs indulged 8)Beach ruined permanently and at present 
endangering all our beaches 9)Now we have Salgaonkar Mining Industries 
repeatedly appealing to Government in many front page advertisements in all the 
dailies stating they will give Performance Guarantee to complete removal by 
June 2011 at no cost to government !Anil Salgaoncars conscience pricking,making 
amends?The ship is rusted and I doubt will be much use as scrap? No Insurance 
will pay. 
I mentioned Nandkumar or Aires because these guys speak  knowledgeable deep 
facts and generally do not indulge in  rhetoric which leave none the wiser


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Was life in the *kudds* glamourised? Who said, "It appears that the Goanese 
(sic) are a roving people, prepared to go to any part of the world for 
well-paid employment"? How did Goans find their first toehold in the Gulf? Find 
your answers in Selma
Carvalho's *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Buy from
Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in
Goa only) Rs 295.  http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

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[Goanet] Daily Grook #777

2010-08-08 Thread Francis Rodrigues


DAILY GROOK #777
=
FOUL HOWL
=
by Francis Rodrigues




i think what's worse
 than an animal growl,
 is a chicken's curse -
it's speech is fowl!



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sheet-music,tab,lyrics,chords of great Konkani pop hits
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Was life in the *kudds* glamourised? Who said, "It appears that the Goanese 
(sic) are a roving people, prepared to go to any part of the world for 
well-paid employment"? How did Goans find their first toehold in the Gulf? Find 
your answers in Selma
Carvalho's *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Buy from
Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in
Goa only) Rs 295.  http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

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[Goanet] Come, I now take you over to Porvorim (Goa Legislative Assembly)

Come, I now take you over to Porvorim (Goa Legislative Assembly)
 
It’s my 801 special
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd2cQFUZ20Y
 
That was my first time.
I am sure, 99.9% of you never been here
and hence this special clip bringing you the same
right to your desktop wherever you are.
 
Note:
This is done in good faith by a Goan to Goans everywhere.
That’s what I do. I am not a terrorist, Sir.

Meet 
The Speaker
Ministers
MLAs
Press
Visitors/Gallery including students
Interior/ceiling of the house
A Mandovi River/Valley view (Brittona/Ribandar)
 
 
Churchill – says - 
hennem, hennem hennem hennem 4 times
(Hennem= refers to his ‘Kumpar’)
 
Amghe Amdar Agxicho, 
making demand for a ‘che-pel’ and a temple
at Goa Medical College.
 
Those in favour say ‘ay’ against say ‘no’
 
A detail report and Pics to follow.
 
Extra:
 
Only wearer knows where the shoe bite
In other words, you have to be there yourself to give
FIR (First information Report)
Our Mikky Pachecho just did that.
Accordingly,  we know his first hand experience in 
Goan Prisons 
How about GMC hospital experience?
He says ‘there is no guarantee that a patient would go 
home alive’

Watch this space for video clip etc
 
Victoria Mummy, Reginaldo Lourenco, Babush, Parrikar,
Mauvin, Rane, Joaquim Alemao, lesser known Anil etc etc 
also seen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd2cQFUZ20Y

Believe me or not, it took me over 18 hours to make this clip
 
Also, it's our Group's (GOAN-NRI) 7th annivesary special


joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

for Goa & NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc


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Was life in the *kudds* glamourised? Who said, "It appears that the Goanese 
(sic) are a roving people, prepared to go to any part of the world for 
well-paid employment"? How did Goans find their first toehold in the Gulf? Find 
your answers in Selma
Carvalho's *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Buy from
Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in
Goa only) Rs 295.  http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

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[Goanet] OMVN: FIR - Patients with 'No pressure' at GMC? Think twice..

OMVN: 
FIR - Patients with 'No pressure' at GMC? Think twice..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36KeXJpiZWg

Ex. Minister speaks about his personal experience at GMC


 
JoeGoaUk Says:
It's true, I have been there too.
 
See a GMC pic here and some cooments too
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk25/4494211991/
 


joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

for Goa & NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc


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Was life in the *kudds* glamourised? Who said, "It appears that the Goanese 
(sic) are a roving people, prepared to go to any part of the world for 
well-paid employment"? How did Goans find their first toehold in the Gulf? Find 
your answers in Selma
Carvalho's *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Buy from
Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in
Goa only) Rs 295.  http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

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[Goanet] ravindra kelekar

2010-08-08 Thread Shiv Kumar

The Tribune has a profile of Ravindra Kelekar. No I haven't written it.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2010/20100808/edit.htm#5

shiv kumar

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Was life in the *kudds* glamourised? Who said, "It appears that the Goanese 
(sic) are a roving people, prepared to go to any part of the world for 
well-paid employment"? How did Goans find their first toehold in the Gulf? Find 
your answers in Selma
Carvalho's *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Buy from
Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in
Goa only) Rs 295.  http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

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[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Uloitat Ek Somzovtat Dusrem

2010-08-08 Thread lino dourado

   Uloitat Ek Somzovtat Dusrem

Hea dot’torevelo thoddo lok  kitem uloita tem somzovpak, thodde khepek moskil 
zata. Thoddim zann astat, ulovchea para uloitat. Tanchem ulovnnem khoim vochun 
xirkotolem hi thoddeank ok’kol nasta. Ghoddboddan apun kitem ulounk sodta 
tacher 
irloso lokx dina zalear, dusro aikopi monis tujea ulovpacher dusroch orth vo 

goir-somoz kaddta ani tunvem sangloli gozal tisreak sanglim mhonntoch, te 
gozalik veglloch somzovnnecho rong yeta. Jeddna ulovpachi somzovnni mellona 
teddna aikolo monis trasant poddunk xokta. Dekhik, ek boreach tempaveli ghozal:
“Zannai Terezin? To mugo, Assumptache dampta, dampta ani borench mov zatoch 
bhitor lotta. Kitle motte…”
“Xi, xi hollxig. Anik sangum naka. Hanv zannanch aslim. To Kistod, ek 
dis Asumptak buloitoloch mhunn”
“Assumpta ani Kistodichea mogacher tuzo dolo kiteak? To tuka zai aslo? Aago 
hanv 
ghozal kortam ti Kistodichi nhoi, punn kankonkar Damuchi?”
“Damun kitem kelem?”
“Tum zannam, Assumptache hat daddlea porim kitle motte te? Kounchechim kanknnam 
tachea hatar choddoitolo zalear poilem tel rogddunk zai, na tor kanknnam 
moddtat. Kal oxoch Damu tachea hatar kanknnam choddoitana, tera kanknnam 
toddlim”
“Oxem mhunn sang mu gho? Hanv somzovllim…”
Ani halinch mhaka mhunn sumarachem ghoddlam? Mhoje-i kodden goir-somoz zalo. 
Tumkam sanglea viret mhozo jiv dorta?
Poir tedus  City Center Supper Marketan hanv pavon sorlom. Hea disamni 
ispabhair 
rotubha vo humidity aslolean mhojea angantlean vhanvtoli um vo ghamecho vas 
dusreank na yevpa khatir kaim anti perspirant detergent  viktto ghetana, 
Panadol 
for joints ek pakit haddpak konn eklean fonavelean vinoilem. 


CityCenter-an Spot numbers astat. Mhonnchem, tum sodta ti vost umkeach ankddear 
vo zagear asta. Thoimsor kam’ kortoleak, Panadol khoim astat tem vicharlem, ani 
tannem mhaka Spot no. 63 dakhoilo. Hanv thoim ghelom. Panadol, Vicks, 
Strepsils, 
ani herr sabar vogddanchim box-am nodrek poddlim. Panadol pakit kaddtana mhoji 
nodor vhoir gheli ani mhojeo rogt-xiro churr zaleo. Hanvem keddnach 
pollenvk 

naslem ani mhaka khoborui nasli tosleo vostu supper market-an vikrek 
astat mhunn. Khiteak, hea idadir tanchi mhaka goroz na nhi? Vepar dovorpachea 
voilea shelf-ar 'Caltex', 'Karma Sutra', 'Durex', 'Romantic' condoms  aslolim 
pollevn hanv mhakach lozlom. Mhoje dolle thoim chitkon astona konnem tori 
mhojea 
nanvan 

mhaka ulo marlo. Ek ostorecho avaz. Lin-Batist nanvan ulo marpi ghoddie mhageli 
lagxili vo poisuli soiri astoli. Thodde soire/soirim heach nanvan mhaka 
voddkitat.  Mhozo tallo sukllo. Ubo asam zalear mhunn khoinchea paddelea 
zagear? 
Xi loz bextti. Ani khorench! Pattlean vollun pollelear amgeli ek poisuli soiri.
“Zaitea tempan mure. Ghorchim koxim asat? Khobor ghenam mure tum amchi. Pois, 
pois bhonvta? Vhodd zala? Tumgelea eka Vaskuchea Dourado soireak, jivo marla 
mhunn khobor asa mure tuka?”, vicharancher vichar kortana tinnem voilem ek 
'Karma Sutra' pakit kaddlem ani kimot kitli asa ti polletana, hanvem vicharlem. 


“Tugelo ghorkar Desmond koso asa? Yeunk nam to?”
 “Arre oi. Kitem sangum tuka? Laitam, laitam, laitam ani ho...”, modench konnem 
tori tika zap keli ani hatant aslolem Karma Sutra pakit tigelea shopping 
troly-n oddovun zap kortolea mon’xa sorxim gheli. Mhojem mon bara kodden. Ti 
amchi ek poisuli soiri. Kazar zatoch, eka fattlean ek korun tegam bhurgim tika. 

Anink bhurgeacho gorb yena zaunk ghoddie tim ghov-bail, kondomacho vapor kortat 
zait. Hanv soiro zalear kitem zalem? Uloitana, matxe tori xist asunk zai nhi? 
Tanchea nidhpa khuddantleao kasgi gozali mhaka kiteak? Oi? Hem hanv mhakach 
vichari ten’nach tigelo ghorkar dislo.
“Matul, ho poi tugelo Desmond yeta” (orxim tichem nanv Matutina. Tem lhan 
astona, maiteyeachea aidonanim jevtalem mhunn aminch zaun tika nanv Matul 
dil’lem) 


“Khoim tum Love. Kitlo vell zalo, hanv tujea mobilar fone laitam, laitam, 
laitam 
ani tum fon utthaina?”
“Fon silence-sar aslo mista. Atanch koll’lam mhaka.”, Desmond-an sanglem.
Oh deva! Hi mhoji soiri aplea ghorkarachea mobilar fon laitali mista. Punn 
tigeli sangpachi tora mhunn kosli? Oslo prosong tuka ghoddlolo zalear, tum 
kitem 
mhonnta aslo? Matxe mhaka sangchi?
 
Lino B. Dourado


  


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Was life in the *kudds* glamourised? Who said, "It appears that the Goanese 
(sic) are a roving people, prepared to go to any part of the world for 
well-paid employment"? How did Goans find their first toehold in the Gulf? Find 
your answers in Selma
Carvalho's *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Buy from
Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in
Goa only) Rs 295.  http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

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[Goanet] Travelling by Cargo ships, freighters around the world

How to Travel by Cargo
Sh
ip
http://thetravelersnotebook.com/how-to/how-to-travel-by-cargo-ship/

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Adventure-Travel-1837/travel-cargo-ships.htm

Not sure whether Indian ships allow this/or are allowed to take passengers.

venantius j pinto

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Was life in the *kudds* glamourised? Who said, "It appears that the Goanese 
(sic) are a roving people, prepared to go to any part of the world for 
well-paid employment"? How did Goans find their first toehold in the Gulf? Find 
your answers in Selma
Carvalho's *Into the Goan Diaspora Wilderness*. Buy from
Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in
Goa only) Rs 295.  http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

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[Goanet] The Meaning and "Greatness" of any Art---in terms of collective consciousness