Re: [Goanet] The endemic corruption in Goa - shall we start doing something about it?

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Thanks JC and Carmen.
Only if JC knew the havoc that alcohol is causing in Goa's villages and its 
role in corruption, I do not know if he would still disagree with me.
The good old days of social pressure are no more. The tavern keeper (gadi) 
had some ethics then, but no more today. See the state of the youth in the 
villages to realise the damge to society.
If only JC could experience the wonders of alcohol in swinging electoral 
prospects, I do not know if he would still choose to disagree.
I knew that I was touching a sensitive spot for all goans. I have realised 
this all since 1988 and will keep stressing that curbs on alcohol is the one 
step desperately needed to Save Goa.
That Goa is not 'nitoll' neither 'jagrut' anymore. There is no 'lok' behind 
the 'shakti', except politician and booze bhakti.
Sorry Goans, abstinence from intoxicants has become one of my principles for 
consideration of any associations in activism.


-Soter 

[Goanet] endemic corruption in Goa- shall we do something about it

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Dear all

So far, all we have been hearing was negative about everything 
happening in Goa and pessimistic attitude to every solution .Those who 
see black in everything, will never have any positive solutions.I can 
understand the feelings of those who have been trying to do something 
and have not acheived anything and have developed a negative mondset.


It is time to think and analyse the past and learn from it. Also, find 
out whether there are alternate ways of doing things. Some people on 
this forum and many so called I KNOW IT ALL GURUS think that theirs is 
the only way of doing things.If we want to tackle this menance in Goa, 
we need ideas and help from every quarters.For whatever reasons known 
to them, Our Goyenkars in Goa are averse to any suggestions/help from 
Goyenkars worldwide. By now they must have realised that this battle 
cannot be fought on their own. If they really want to save Goa, it is 
time they join hands with every Goan worldwide. We can argue, fight, 
disagree and insult each other at our will. But for the sake of Goa, 
lets get together and do something CONCRETE!


Let 19th December be the day for the second Liberation of Goa from 
CORRUPTION!


Cheers

Anesimo

[Goanet] The endemic corruption in Goa – shall we start doing something about it

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Soter says:
Two positives could lead to a fatal short circuit. Electrical current needs
a positive and negative to flow smoothly.

Carmita says:
Sorter, a fatal short circuit is exactly what some people in Goa need!  And
plenty of shocks by lightening followed by thunder storms will probably
speed up the process of cleaning up Goa.

Carmita says:
The entire system of Goa and all politicians from all parties, all governments
officers, police, big business, every one needs to be shaken to the core. 
Declare WAR to corruption. There is a solution! It is not an easy solution. 
Catch them red handed and NAME and SHAME and protests to start with. Above all 
Sorter, what is needed is the will of the people and if all join forces we can 
do it. But we need to cooperate and be positive! Our individual past 
experiences, sucesses and failures and disappointments etc should be used as 
lessons to build up the FORCE AGAINST CORRUPTION, and not undermine efforts, 
however small, against this evil, which is killing Goa.
 
With reference to all above Rajendra says:
 
To start, nothing about corruption but pure physics: In the context of normal 
electricity connections with positives and negatives of standard potential 
values, two positives do not lead to short circuit; the voltage merely doubles. 
A positive and a negative (or earth) that can result in short circuit as well 
as smooth flow of current. The former occurs when there is no resistence (a 
bulb, heater, fan or other appliance) between the two terminals and latter when 
there is adequate resistence. 
If two positive terminals (with unequal potential values) are created in a 
laboratory, current would flow smoothly from positive (with higher potential) 
to positive (with lower potential) if there is adequate resistence in between. 
Ditto with two negative terminals. Scientifically, there is no such thing as 
positive and negative. These are relative referances. Higher potential value 
terminal is referred to as positive and the lower one as negative. If you use 
transformers, positive terminal with reference to one terminal can become 
negative with reference to another.
 
Coming to corruption:  Carmita’s prescription is excellent. Let us garner 
resources. Four Ms: Men, Machinery, Methods, Materials. Just as electricity 
flows smoothly only if there is adequate resistence, the political system can 
run smoothly only if there is adequate resistence (what Carmita suggests) by 
the people.
Regards
Rajendra

[Goanet] Panjim TT Club Ranking: Tejas, Krishal in Title clash

[Sandeep Heble]

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Panjim TT Club Ranking:
Tejas, Krishal in Title clash


Tejas Shevde, Goa's Top Table Tennis Paddler in the sub-junior
category and second seed Krishal Peres De Silva both had easy outings
as they cruised into the Finals of the All Goa Major Ranking Table
tennis Tournament organised by Panjim Table Tennis Club in association
with JCI St. Inez and Sports Authority of Goa.
Tejas registered a straight sets 11-8, 11-9, 11-3 win over Yash Naik
while Krishal was in top gear, scoring a commanding 11-3, 11-5, 11-6
win over B.S.Sidharth to set up a title clash with the top seed.

Earlier, in the Sub-Juniors quarter Final Round, Tejas Shevde bt Tejas
Moraskar, Yash naik bt Yash Salgaoncar, B.S.Sidhart bt Wesley Rosario
and Krishal Peres De Silva by Pranav naik.

Following are the other Results
Junior Boys Pre-Quarters
B.S.Sidharth bt Joel Andrade 11-5, 11-6, 11-7
Wesley Rosario bt Neville Gonsalves 11-4, 7-11, 11-7, 11-7
Yash Salgaoncar bt Jophilip George 11-5, 11-7, 11-9
Krishal Peres De Silva bt Pranav Naik 11-6, 11-8, 11-9
Arjun Sood bt Kevin Gonsalves 11-4, 11-5, 11-8
Tejas Shevde bt Yohann Sequeira 11-1, 11-5, 11-8
Tyron D' Costa bt Tejas Moraskar 9-11, 11-3, 16-14, 2-11, 11-6
Yash Naik bt Selvyn Godinho 11-8, 11-8, 11-9

Junior Boys Quarters
Tejas Shevde bt Yash Salgaoncar 11-4, 11-9, 11-3
Yash Naik bt Wesley Rosario 11-6, 11-5, 11-7
Arjun Sood bt B S Sidharth 11-7, 7-11, 11-6, 12-10
Krishal Peres De Silva bt Tyrone D Costa 11-3, 8-11, 11-6, 11-6

yours sincerely
Sandeep Heble
Secretary,
Panjim Table Tennis Club
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[Goanet] GOA SUDHAROP: "Year of the Goan Volunteer Spirit" event, Sept 23

[George Pinto]

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In connection with Goa Sudharop's 2010 theme "Year of the Goan Volunteer 
Spirit", a seminar for college students in association with St. Xavier s 
College of Arts, Science & Commerce, Mapusa, (Principal: Rev. Fr. Walter De 
Sa), will be held on Thursday, 23rd September, 2010. Also invited are students 
from nearby colleges.

Programme:

8.15 - 8.45: Registrations

8.45 - 9.15: Welcome Address by the Principal and address by Executive
Director of Goa Sudharop, Mr. Ibonio D'Souza, inaugural formalities.

9.15 - 10.00: session on 'Be the Change' by Pravin Sabnis, (HR trainer, theatre 
person)

10.00 - 10.45: session on 'Empowerment' by Dr Bernadette Gomes
(sociologist, teacher, artist)

10.45 - 11.00: Refreshment Break

11.00 - 11.45:  session on  'Responsible Citizens' by Soter D'souza
(Director - Centre for Panchayati Raj, Peaceful Society, Expert on
governance and citizenship issues)

11.45 – 12.30: session on ‘Caring for Mother Earth’ by Miguel Braganza
(Agriculturalist, Environment Expert)

12.30 - 1.00: Valedictory function: Pledge by Participants, Report of
the Workshop, Presentation of Certificates, Vote of Thanks

Thanks to the donors, volunteers, well-wishers and supporters of Goa Sudharop 
who make these events happen.

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Re: [Goanet] The endemic corruption in Goa - shall we start doing something about it?

[Carmen Miranda]

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Thanks J. Colaco and Soter.

If things were that simple , what are people waiting for?

I think all you have done is touch the tip of the iceberg and just point out
some of the areas in which corruption is rampant and attitudes of people
need to change.  Without leadeship and guidance no one will change. Where is
the incentive to stop corruption? Where are the legal consequences?  Where
are the criminal prosecutions?

People are not going to out of the blue stop being corrupt and follow the
guiding principles Soter so kindly layed out.  How are they going to know
about your principles to eradicate corruption Soter? Going to publish it on
local papers?

Corruption is everywhere, in every sphere of life in Goa. I was shocked that
people in Goa even need to bribe to get jobs, even police jobs!  I think the
meaning of integrity is lost in today's Goa.

Nothing is going to change unless there is some serious anti-corruption
campaign and people begin the feel immediate consequences when  asking for
bribes. How are you going to stop the politicians from buying their votes
during elections?
How are you going to stop the ministers from taking bribes to allow people
to build in the wrong places,  give licenses to builders, miners and
gambling casinos and so on? If you think people are going to just suddenly
overnight, for no reason at all , change a lifetime of bad habits, I think
you are mistaken.

We may not have 10 people marching the streets in Panjim, but even if we
have 100, that will be a beginning of something. Just the first step.

I think there are thousands of people who are desperate, furious,
exasperated and helpless about the culture of corruption in Goa. They need
to come out and let the corrupt people know that goan society  will no
longer tolerate corruption - or will they?

Corruption is a crime, isn't it? Perhaps it isn't in Goa!

Best wishes

Carmen













On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:58 PM, J. Colaco < jc>  wrote:

> Soter responded to Carmen( I am responding to Soter)
>
> My dear Soter,
>
> I believe that both you and Carmen have your Goan-hearts in the right
> places. Perhaps, you may wish to concentrate on common ground to
> achieve a common goal.
>
> I'd also suggest the following (part of this is based on advertising
> pearls):
>
> Just like Business markets its products with Short recognizable names
> i.e. Lux, Rexona, Kingfisher  instead of Appat-ball, Sarvajanik and
> Jhankar (a brand of radio which failed to take off), pick a simple
> name for the movement - not some SuRaj, Pox, Dal, Andolan and Abhiyan
> etc.
>
> Understand your target audience. If you have to spend time and energy
> to explain the meaning of the NAME of the organization, you have lost
> the first two rounds of a 4 round tournament. Having said that, may I
> say that I find this 10 individual march/gathering a brilliant
> figment of someone's over optimistic enthusiasm.
>
> Movements are best when they are ground based and consistent; not some
> one shot deal and politics thereafter.
>
> Now my responses to Soter's suggestions.
>
> [1] Let each one focus on themselves and fulfill their fundamental
> duties of abuiding by all laws, the rest will follow.
> JC: Absolutely
>
> [2] Build and design nothing on hill slopes like our great
> environmentalists preach and do not practice.
> JC: Absolutely
>
> [3] Minimise on your luxuries and do not clog the streets of Panjim
> with big cars, the villages with hazardous technological and
> industrial wastes from lavish consumeritstic life styles.
> JC: Absolutely
>
> [4] Do not take grants from the government and sing their tunes.
> JC: Absolutely
>
> [5] Do not attend programs attended by politicians and corrupt officers.
> JC: Neither in Goa nor abroad. If we do, we are just aiding and
> abetting corruption
>
>
> [6] Do not go for any favours to the politicians.
> JC: Absolutely
>
> [7] Say no to booze in Goa.
> JC : Disagree. We should ONLY decide for ourselves. Legislating
> prohibition will (as in the past) spawn a whole new industry of
> 'liquor-running', boot-legging and the production and sale of
> dangerous and uncontrolled liquor.
>
> [8] Say no to Casinos and other social evils.
> JC: If the idea is to ban gambling ban ALL forms of gambling.
> Please understand the man-power needed to enforce this and the HAFTA
> it could generate. We, ourse

[Goanet] The First World Konkani Cultural Convention - Canada curtain-raiser

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Canada: Historical Curtain-raiser for the First World Konkani Cultural 
Convention
 
Source :  daijiworld.com
 
Toronto, Sep 14:  It was an awesome experience for the Konkani Diaspora 
residing 
in Canada when Eric Ozario, the Gurkaar and Louis Pinto, the incumbent 
president 
of World's renowned Konkani organization Mandd Sobhann extended "Vovllik" 
(invitation) for the First World Konkani Cultural Convention in a traditional 
style by offering `paan-pod udaak’ (betel leaves, areca-nuts and water).  This 
historical curtain raiser event "Vovllik", first of its kind in North America 
was held during the grand Monti Fest celebration organized by the Mangalorean 
Association of Canada (MAC) in association with Canara World Foundation (CWF) 
at 
Pope John Paul II hall in Mississauga, Canada on Sunday, Sept 12.
 
The First World-level Konkani Cultural Convention will be organized in 
Mangalore 
as a 25-day extravaganza from November 25 to December 19 to mark the Silver 
Jubilee of Konkani’s premier cultural organization Mandd Sobhann, that has made 
all Konkani speaking people proud by placing the language on the world map by 
their remarkable and record-breaking feat of organising the Konkani Nirantari 
program to enter the Guinness Book of World Records with its 40-hour-long 
non-stop multi-singer music program.
 
The "Vovllig" program was a part of the Monthi Fest Cultural program that 
started with a traditional welcome by MAC President Maxim D'Mello and CWF 
president Max Mendes.  The special guests Baab Eric and Baab Louis who flew to 
Canada from Mangalore, India were welcomed to the dais and were greeted with 
flower bouquets amidst the rolling applause of the audience. On behalf of the 
Konkani Community in Canada they were honoured with the traditional shawl.  Fr 
Edwin D'Souza, the spiritual director of Konkani community in Canada and an 
ardent supporter of Konkani language, was the chief guest.
 
Mandd Sobhann gurkar Eric Ozario, the former president of Karnataka Konkani 
Sahitya Academy, highlighted the importance of the convention in his key 
address 
and said that Konkani is a rich language and its preservation should be of top 
priority.  He narrated the greatness of Konkani, spoken by people cutting 
across 
barriers of state, region, religion, caste and creed in India and even abroad.  
He gave a bird's eye-view of Mandd Sobhann and its contribution for the 
development, promotion and protection of Konkani culture, language, music and 
theatre for the last quarter century.  He said that the first-ever World-level 
Konkani Cultural Convention being held at Kalaangann from November 25 to 
December 19 will comprise of programs from over 60 groups/troupes from all over 
the world involving over 1,000 artistes with music, folk, theatre and dance.
 
In addition, a Konkani film festival, food festival, youth festival, art 
festival, kavita fest, games, competitions and bazaar will be organized along 
with the second global Konkani music award presentation. The sixth Carvalho 
Gharaanne-Thomas Stephen’s Konkani Kendr Kalakaar Puraskaar will also be 
presented. Seminars on various aspects of Konkani culture and 
felicitation/honouring of 25 institutions/individuals from all around the world 
for their contribution to enriching the Konkani culture is a part of the 25-day 
celebration, Ozario said.
There was a thunderous applause from the audience when Eric announced that one 
day will be dedicated to Canada where Konkani people from Canada have a unique 
opportunity to exhibit their Konkani talents on the soil of their birth.  He 
urged all the Konkani people of North America to show utmost generosity and 
support morally and financially to this unique high-budgeted historical Konkani 
event.
 
The hall packed audience were enthralled when Eric presented his own 
foot-tapping compositions together with talented local artistes like Merlyn 
Rodrigues, Anita Prabhu, Sonia Monteiro and Manohar Pais.
 
Leo Rego, Ronald Monteiro and Gerry D'Mello were the comperes for the program.
**


  

[Goanet] E&Y warns of increasing corruption in mining (Mining Journal)

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Financial services provider Ernst & Young has warned that the mining sector has 
become more susceptible to bribery and corruption following the global 
financial crisis.
In a new report, 'Fraud and corruption in mining and metals', the firm said 
that increased level of activity following the financial crisis is being 
undertaken with “slimmed-down control environments” leading to greater fraud 
risk.
The emergence of high-profile cases involving Rio Tinto and BHP Billiton has 
raised awareness of corruption in the mining sector, and E&Y added that: “The 
mining and metals sector has received significant bad press over alleged fraud 
and corruption in the sector.”
Legislators are, however, increasingly looking at ways to punish fraudulent 
behaviour.
The new Bribery Act being introduced in the UK in April next year will include 
a law that will penalise companies for failing to prevent bribery and will 
cover business-to-business as well as industry-government incidents.
The new Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act in the US also indicates a move against 
corruption, as it includes the requirement that all explorers, developers and 
producers of oil, natural gas and minerals to include in their annual report 
the details of any payments made to governments.
http://www.mining-journal.com/production-and-markets/e-and-y-warns-of-increasing-corruption-in-mining?dm_i=5O3,8WFZ,2M54PO,N9YJ,1

[Goanet] GOA SUDHAROP: Another Bollywood star/Konkani filmbook release, Tuesday, Sept 21, 4-6pm

[George Pinto]

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Bollywood star Malaika Arora Khan, sends her best wishes for the success of 
author Isidore Dantas' much anticipated Konkani filmbook "KONKNNI CHOLCHITRAM" 
released in honour of GOA SUDHAROP's 10 year anniversary.

The book's Goa launch will be at Hotel Mandovi, Panaji, on Tuesday, Sept 21
from 4-6pm. All invited, there is no cost to attend.

Author Isidore Dantas will also be present to sign copies of the book and make 
them available for purchase at an attractive discounted price of Rs. 450/- at 
the launch event only for this iconic classic (normal cover price Rs 650/-).

http://www.konkanifilmbook.com/

The book is in Romi Konkani script.

We look forward to seeing you on Sept 21.

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[Goanet] Jolie Says Vegan Diet Nearly Killed Her « ecorazzi.com :: the latest in green go ssip

[Con Menezes]

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Angelina JolieThe mistake that almost killed her.
>From 'Ecorazzi'
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Re: [Goanet] The endemic corruption in Goa - shall we start doing something about it?

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Soter responded to Carmen( I am responding to Soter)

My dear Soter,

I believe that both you and Carmen have your Goan-hearts in the right
places. Perhaps, you may wish to concentrate on common ground to
achieve a common goal.

I'd also suggest the following (part of this is based on advertising pearls):

Just like Business markets its products with Short recognizable names
i.e. Lux, Rexona, Kingfisher  instead of Appat-ball, Sarvajanik and
Jhankar (a brand of radio which failed to take off), pick a simple
name for the movement - not some SuRaj, Pox, Dal, Andolan and Abhiyan
etc.

Understand your target audience. If you have to spend time and energy
to explain the meaning of the NAME of the organization, you have lost
the first two rounds of a 4 round tournament. Having said that, may I
say that I find this 10 individual march/gathering a brilliant
figment of someone's over optimistic enthusiasm.

Movements are best when they are ground based and consistent; not some
one shot deal and politics thereafter.

Now my responses to Soter's suggestions.

[1] Let each one focus on themselves and fulfill their fundamental
duties of abuiding by all laws, the rest will follow.
JC: Absolutely

[2] Build and design nothing on hill slopes like our great
environmentalists preach and do not practice.
JC: Absolutely

[3] Minimise on your luxuries and do not clog the streets of Panjim
with big cars, the villages with hazardous technological and
industrial wastes from lavish consumeritstic life styles.
JC: Absolutely

[4] Do not take grants from the government and sing their tunes.
JC: Absolutely

[5] Do not attend programs attended by politicians and corrupt officers.
JC: Neither in Goa nor abroad. If we do, we are just aiding and
abetting corruption


[6] Do not go for any favours to the politicians.
JC: Absolutely

[7] Say no to booze in Goa.
JC : Disagree. We should ONLY decide for ourselves. Legislating
prohibition will (as in the past) spawn a whole new industry of
'liquor-running', boot-legging and the production and sale of
dangerous and uncontrolled liquor.

[8] Say no to Casinos and other social evils.
JC: If the idea is to ban gambling ban ALL forms of gambling.
Please understand the man-power needed to enforce this and the HAFTA
it could generate. We, ourselves, could decide for ourselves that we
will NOT have any dealings with the gambling industry.

[9] Do not also patronise media which are known to be 'fixing agents'.
JC: Absolutely

[10] Do not take sponsors from miners, builders, casinos, liqour barons,
JC: Absolutely, we should neither accept sponsorship nor attend
functions (including Dances and Shows) which have any of the
chaps/companies mentioned by Soter as sponsors or patrons.

Just that you may know there are a number of physicians who do NOT
accept any gifts, trips and dinner invitations from Big Pharma or
their agents.

Yours truly is one of them

good wishes

jc

[Goanet] Gandhi God-Kings

[U. G. Barad]

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Naguesh Bhatcar brought to our attention an article by Sadanand Dhume,
titled "India's Gandhi God-Kings", and provided us the url"

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703724104575378590961975082.ht
ml#printMode

The sub-title of the article is: "Opaque family rule is no way to run a
political party, let alone a major economy and aspiring great power."

To this Rajendra kakodkar wrote: Whenever there is some inauguration or an
achievement by congress is high-lighted, it is Sonia who steals the
limelight in the advertisements. She is praised to be the driving force. But
when Kashmir burns, it is Omar Abdulla who goes to the gallows and Sonia has
nothing to do with it. When Maoists kill securitymen, it is Chidambaram who
is made the scapegoat. When Commonwealth corruption surfaced, only Kalmadi
was taken to the altar as if such thousands of crores went only in his
pockets. When grains rot, it is Pawar who is blamed. When terrorists struck
Mumbai it was Shivrai Patil, who was guillotined and Sonia was unscathed.
Yesterday on World Democracy Day she agreed to nominate a president for Goa
Congress party without elections?

And Soter asked: Agreed that Gandhi's get the cream while the shit gets
splashed on their hench men. Could you show any other political outfit in
this country in which such God-kings do not exist? 

My response:

I think it is fair to say that in the Communist parties and the BJP, such
God-kings do not exist.  There are people in these parties who are the
children of the leadership.  But in most cases, they have worked themselves
up through the ranks.

Perhaps Soter can give examples otherwise, and I will stand corrected.

Going through the article by Dhume, following two quotes are worth
considering:

"But unlike the Conservatives and Labour in Britain, or for that matter the
Republicans and Democrats in America, Congress is defined less by adherence
to a coherent ideology than by fealty to a single family."

"Beyond this apparent sense of noblesse oblige toward the toiling masses,
the Gandhis are probably the most opaque major politicians in the democratic
world. They rarely speak to the media, and when they do it's not to
critics."

Best regards,

U. G. Barad

[Goanet] Awakening of the Mapusa's Civil Society to Mapusa City's dire needs. ..... for kind favour of publication

[floriano]

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17 September, 2010

To,
The Editor,
Goanet.


Sir,

It has never happened before in the history of Goa since 1961. A Panchayat
or a Municipality Elections being contested by CIVIL SOCIETY collectively on
a progressive and disciplined 'PEOPLE'S MANIFESTO' with no agenda of
selfishness, self-aggrandizement or plain devoid of  'no futuristic 
planning'.


Kudos to Mapusa Nagrikancho Ekvott lead by it convener Adv. Antonio Lobo,
the ex-Bar-Council Member from GOA to the Goa-Maharashtra Bar Council, a
resident of Mapusa for taking the initiative.

The planned floating of a 'Citizen's Panel to fight the up-coming Mapusa
Civic Elections to  15 Wards scheduled for 30th. October, 2010  needs to be
appreciated, lauded and supported to the hilt not only by Mapxemkars, the
voters,  but by Bardezkars and GOA itself.  One glance at today's Mapusa
City and the state of the grand world famous Friday Market it boasts will
tell the sorry tale of long-term mis-management, scant respect towards civic
duties by the elected representatives, the traffic mess with every road
clogged due to indiscriminate parking, not to speak of the strewn garbage
everywhere and anywhere.

"Civic change  comes ONLY when one is submerged up to the neck", it is said.
But for Mapusa City,  this vital change is necessary and imperative when
the neck is already submerged and the filth has reached the nostrils with
its mere survival in peril.

It must be remembered that the Mapusa City is not only the responsibility of
Mapxemkars. It is the responsibility of the entire Bardez Taluka.

I singularly salute the MAPUSA NAGRIKANCHO EKVOTT, wishing it all the very
best and   praying  that it succeeds in its endeavors to clean-up  our dear
Mapusa City once and for all by cleaning up its Augean stables which has
been overly neglected for far too long.

Floriano Lobo
Pirazona, Moira
Bardez Goa.
Ph: 2470223
(M) 9890470896

Re: [Goanet] Horror of Dual Citizenship With India (OCI)

[Tony de Sa]

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I have been reading with interest the arguments put up by Goanettters
vis-a-vis this issue. Not having experienced this situation personally, I
refrained from shoving my oar in.

However, now that some of the posts in this thread have descended to very
low levels and so I have decided to post a few comments.

1. The original post, part of which is pasted below appears to be one of
those 'panic' or 'scaremonger' mails that one finds in one's mailbox. It
appears to have been forwarded several times as evident by the numerous '>'
signs preceding and also following each line. (Perhaps our resident computer
expert, JF will be able to throw more light). Though the original poster
might have sent it in good faith, there is absolutely no need for every one
to get into a tizzy and get worked up about it. Which leads me to my second
point.

My advice to all my friends who hold an OCI (Overseas Citizen of India)
Card and


those who aspire to get one.



I am an American citizen.? I also carry an OCI card (Overseas Citizen of
India)

2. As Vivian said, bureaucrats will be bureaucrats, anywhere in the world,
no matter what their ethnicity. They love to stick dogmatically to their
motto of harassing people whenever and wherever they can. Harassment of
inbound travelers is not a phenomenon only restricted to India. I have heard
many stories, some from my own relations who have had bad experiences where
they were accorded step motherly treatments at airports because of their
ethnicity even though they were citizens of the country. Heathrow is one of
the places  where this has happened.  But then ex-pat Goans shy from talking
about these things.

3. It is unfortunate that the debate here has reached the levels of a
slanging match and a put-India-down campaign. To apply the label "xhiclolo
bruto" to the original poster is mean and insulting to the intelligence on
the original poster. Needless to say Admin Noronha and his team have let
such low posts through or let it slip through inadvertently. If advertent,
then it strikes me that it is because it is one of those posts that will
generate controversy and hence 'generate traffic', in the manner of
newspapers posting controversial items to increase circulation.

>I think this is a case of xhiclolo bruto. The professor >apparently has not
>followed the ghandian principle : "when you arrive from >overseas please
bribe
>your countryman".

4. Very often, the US is held out as a paragon of all virtues. But then
would those who run down Indian bureaucracy kindly explain why George
Fernamdes, who was the Defense Minister of India in 2003, was strip-searched
at Dulles when he was visiting the US on INVITATION by Donald Rumsfield, US
Sec. for Defense and had full security laid out for him by the US, and was
carrying a diplomatic passport

On the flip side, as a parting shot, let me cite a personal experience when
a bureaucrat/ Government official went out of her way to help an inbound NRI
without being asked to do so, WITHOUT ANY MONEY CHANGING HANDS, but merely
because of the goodness of her heart. Bureaucrats are also human beings.

It happened this way:

An aunt of mine from Canada was visiting Goa via London. She was doing the
London - Goa stretch by charter. I went to Dabolim to pick her up. The hitch
was that I had last seen her some forty years ago when I was a small lad. My
recollection of what she looked like was rather hazy at best. Would I be
able to recognize her? She was rather aged and handicapped.

So I went into the arrivals lounge and stood in the area which was
barricaded and reserved for those who were picking up arrivals. I carried a
small placard with 'Mrs. X de Sa' written on it. The arrivals lounge soon
filled up with the arriving charter passengers, some were clamoured round
the carousel to collect their luggage, some had completed their immigration
and were walking out to be claimed by waiting relatives, tour agents, taxi
drivers, touts, etc. I was standing there, getting more and more anxious by
the minute, when Customs Officer, Late Nina D'Silva, happened to walk by and
she spotted me. We knew each other in St. Xavier's, Mapusa. She asked me who
X was. I explained and we left things at that. After a wait of around 15
minutes, to my great surprise, there was Nina again with a stout old lady in
tow. Yes, it was Aun

[Goanet] SPRUCING THE JUDICIARY

[Aires Rodrigues]

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The revelation by former Union Law Minister Shanti Bhushan that eight of the
16 Chief Justices of India were corrupt is very disturbing and a matter of
great concern.* *That even judges were recently caught copying only
reinforces the need for stringent procedures in their selection. The manner
in which High court judges are currently picked is not acceptable. The
process lacks any transparency and is shrouded in secrecy. The vacancies of
High court judges ought to be advertised to promote fair competition.. The
selection panel could comprise of the Chief Justice of the High Court along
with one or two Chief Justices of neighbouring states. Such a process would
ensure the selection of only those persons of high integrity with sound
knowledge of all fields of law together with an impeccable character.

We cannot afford to have erroneous judicial appointments. We may never know
how Mr. S.C.Bora became a judge of the Bombay High court in 2008 and why he
was relieved of his judicial duties in just a few months. The less said
about that issue the better but the fact remains that there should never be
a need for Judges to be judged.  However, we must be vigilant to see if
there are another few Boras still remaining as judges.  The degradation of
the judicial system cannot be allowed. Otherwise we will have the Kodas, the
Laloos, Mulayams and the Mayawatis taking over India’s (in) Justice delivery
system.


Aires Rodrigues
T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat
Ribandar - Goa - 403006
Mobile: 9822684372

Re: [Goanet] Who killed Candolim?

[lino dourado]

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Who can stop Cecil's writing ishtyle
Lino

Who killed Candolim?
 The River Princess and the Frogs
 By Cecil Pinto

Who killed Cock Robin?
 I said the sparrow
 With my little arrow
 I killed Cock…


COMMENT: Wrongly quoted, it should read: *"Who killed Cock Robin?" "I," said
the Sparrow,
"With my bow and arrow, I killed Cock Robin."*
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.



  

[Goanet] Goa news for September 18, 2010

[Goanet News Service]

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Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Tar balls resurface on Goa''s beaches - IBNLive.com
NLive.comPTI 
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNHC2mtMUoO-eIgJv7s1ooFNF-ASOg&url=http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/tar-balls-resurface-on-goas-beaches/331931.html

*** 13th century slab of stone carving stolen from Goa - Sify
etre-long stone slab with carvings of battle scene, dating back
to the late 13th century, has been stolen from a remote village
in north Goa. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNHB1JS8-aFpgMVpat_-rQ5AP4NzUw&url=http://sify.com/news/13th-century-slab-of-stone-carving-stolen-from-goa-news-national-kjrokchhied.html

*** Near-empty auditoriumas SAFF kicks off in Panaji - Times of
India
ay South Asian Film Festival Goa 2010 ( SAFF ) got underway to a
virtually empty auditorium on Friday evening. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNHMKsVsRYjGh7qLiipD0gH_vnTCtw&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Near-empty-auditoriumas-SAFF-kicks-off-in-Panaji/articleshow/6575983.cms

*** Goa forest guards get motorbikes to check crime - Times of
India
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http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGa24Hu4-jDslj59MFYAEVHOTh7VA&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/environment/flora-fauna/Goa-forest-guards-get-motorbikes-to-check-crime-/articleshow/6574688.cms

*** Goa Govt's flawed priorities - digITal Goa
oO8_d1Ag
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFdwttePPvfnjEDj5VB-4fkgrmsfg&url=http://www.digitalgoa.com/tag_article.php?id=301

*** Goa rivers be declared national waterways - LogisticsWeek
nland-waterways-should-be-declared-national-union/327172.html">Goa''s
inland waterways should be declared national: Union
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNHa7Ym5rWTRJJhpAHhTDf9HIgpOLg&url=http://logisticsweek.com/ocean/2010/09/goa-rivers-be-declared-national-waterways/

*** Coast Guard, tourism dept to clean beaches - Times of India
mes of IndiaThe Indian Coast Guard headquarters, Goa, will be
the main coordinator for the event in the state. Coast Guard,
naval and army personnel, including families ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGt9m3P04v0H3ymIj60hUIBiPXfAA&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Coast-Guard-tourism-dept-to-clean-beaches/articleshow/6575552.cms

*** Woman kills self, son at Chorao - Times of India
ear-old woman and her three-and-a-halfyear-old son died at
Chorao early Friday morning after the woman poured kerosene over
herself and the ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGOyzMMLarwHIIeucgdZuRgRc-kjQ&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Woman-kills-self-son-at-Chorao/articleshow/6576125.cms

*** Federation Cup: Sesa Football Academy Beat Sporting Clube de
Goa To Qualify ... - Goal.com India
 via penalty shoot out in the Group B match of the 32nd ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFyAbtbJJqY4HcPZF4P8IgYyb_1xw&url=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/1773/federation-cup/2010/09/17/2123906/federation-cup-sesa-football-academy-beat-sporting-clube-de

*** Deadline to begin Princess' removal set - Times of India
mes of IndiaPANAJI: The Goa State Disaster Management Authority
(GSDMA) has decided that November 7 will be the outer limit for
commencement of the removal of the MV ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGdmyNzOmQs_Xm5nNWustwONxMRfw&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Deadline-to-begin-Princess-removal-set/articleshow/6575531.cms


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[Goanet] G.O.A. (Toronto) Ltd Mortgage Bondholders Meeting

[Cecil D'Cruz]

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G.O.A. (Toronto) Ltd Mortgage Bondholders Meeting

A very important meeting of G.O.A. (Toronto) Limited Mortgage 
Bondholders is scheduled to take place on October 3, 2010.


Many current and former G.O.A. members may be unsure if they are 
bondholders, and qualified to attend the meeting.


We the undersigned, think that this meeting is enormously important, as 
it will allow the bondholders to have essential input into the 
governance of repayment of the bonds.


It cannot be over emphasized that we have a vital stake in this matter 
and it is absolutely crucial that all bondholders attend this meeting.


A comprehensive list of all contributors was published in the G.O.A. 
Silver Jubilee Brochure.


The Agenda for the meeting can be viewed at
http://www.goanvoice.ca/2010/issue19/announcements.htm#ann_1

The list of Bondholders  can be viewed at
http://www.goanvoice.ca/2010/issue19/ref/bondholders_list.pdf


If you are a bondholder please check the list for your name. If you 
recognize the name of a relative or friend who may be unaware of the 
meeting, please inform them.



Claude Gomes   - Cecil D’Cruz  - Anthony Saldanha

Re: [Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP

[George Pinto]

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For those of you who sent your condolences, her is Nancy's (Cornel's spouse) 
thank you.


--- On Wed, 9/15/10, Nancy DaCosta  wrote:

Dear George

Thank you very much for taking the time to send us all the condolence messages 
you have received.

It is comforting to know that Cornel was so well appreciated and well thought 
of by so many people.

We are finalising the funeral arrangements and will certainly email these to 
you as soon as we can.

Best wishes

Nancy
 

[Goanet] Talking Photos: In search of wisdom or Lord ’s blessings - Our trip to Sanguem, Sanvordem, Quep em etc

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In search of wisdom or Lord’s blessings
Our trip to Sanguem, Sanvordem, Quepem etc
 
Sanguem Market / Bus Stand
About 14 images/Characters – watch clip
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4999265006/sizes/l/
Left half
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4998659255/sizes/l/
right
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4999264632/sizes/l/

These tiny tots were performing on the opp stage
‘Hum sab bhai-bhai’ or ‘Ami soglim ek’ ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4999265402/

This Lord Farmer on His Bullock cart –Dekhava (Mechanical)
Deserves First Prize amongst the Police Stations (so far)
2nd being Canacona Police Station 
This one from Sanguem Police Station
So meaningful, so traditional, 
Farmers' freindly – Watch clip
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4999265838/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4998661337/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4999266658/sizes/l/
 
and this is what Sanguem Police Station looks like
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4998662255/sizes/l/

Let’s go to Sanvordem now
Also known as Curchorem
This is near Railway Station
Looks like some lords are swinging – Watch clip
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4999267902/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4999269256/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4998663781/sizes/l/
 
This is at Sanvordem Police Station
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4998664881/sizes/l/

Curchorem Rly. Stn - Platform, footbridge etc
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4999318794/sizes/l/
 
 
Over to Quepem
Market Area.
Plenty of mythological characters (Mechanical)
Best so far in the General Category All Goa –watch clip
Could not take them all in one pic (Place was crowded, 
lottery draw was going on)
Some of which, I have seen for the first time
e.g. I never seen or heard of a god inside a snake’s mouth
Seen inside the fish mouth though..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4998665281/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4999270694/sizes/l/

This is at Tilamol (Quepem)
Father plays with bal Ganesha
We used to call this act as ‘tonttem’
(Lifting a child on one’s feet)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4998666163/sizes/l/
Mata devi Parvati, Pita Maha Deva

Over to Margao Police Station
Deva re Deva, Ganapati Deva, 
Tumse Badkar kaun?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4999271446/sizes/l/
Part II of above, Dancing  (mechanical)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4998667073/sizes/l/

for prev. trips to Canacona, Margao, Vasco, Marcel, Jua, 
Cumbarjua, Panjim etc
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-September/199027.html
 
I know there is not much interest for these type of things but that 
did not stop us exploring more


joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

for Goa & NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc

[Goanet] "I lost 1, 400 books when pipes burst in our house in New York" (VRR, in Gomantak Times. Interview: Lisa Monteiro)

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"I lost 1,400 books when pipes burst in our house in New York"

Author Victor Rangel-Ribeiro reveals his top reads and more
in 'One for the Books'.

[One for the Books. Courtesy, Gomantak Times]

Born in: Porvorim, Bardez,
at a time when it was a small
sleepy village in a valley and not
a sprawling, growing, bustling,
accident-ridden township.

Presently based in: Monroe,
New Jersey, USA.

Current Occupation: Writer.
Editor. Member of the International
Creative Writing faculty
in the Master of Fine Arts Programme
at Fairleigh Dickinson
University in New Jersey.

Books Owned: I lost 1,400
books, including the entire poetry
section, three centuries worth
of world literature, and also a lot
of music when pipes burst in our
house in New York in January
2004, while my wife Lea and I
were vacationing in Porvorim. I
still have about 5,000 books left.

Last book read: The last batch
included Ravindra Kelekar's 'Kaleidoscope',
J. S. Simmel's 'Bitte
lasst die Blumen leben', Gabriel
Garcia Marquez's 'El amor in
los tiempos del colera', Hilaire
Belloc's 'Mr Petrie', and a newly
published anthology called 'The
Book of Worst Meals', which includes
a chapter by me.

First book read: Thackeray's
'Vanity Fair' and Sir Walter
Scott's 'Ivanhoe', but I don't
remember how much of either
work I understood. I was about
seven years old, and these were
among the books that my siblings
got as prizes at Mater Dei
in Saligao.

A book you read over and
over: Graham Greene's 'The
Power and the Glory'. It is an
emotionally searing story of
human frailty and triumph, brilliantly
told.

How writing happened?
My siblings tell me I began at
a very early age. Why? Because
I had things to tell, letters to
write. I began writing seriously
the year I joined St Xavier's College
in Bombay in 1941. The
Cowasji Jehangir Readymoney
Portuguese scholarship offered
Rs 100 for the best essay written
on a subject announced on the
spot. I won it. It helped pay for
college education I really could
not afford, and showed me in the
best way possible, the value of
writing.

Books you've written: Six,
including two translations.

Your personal favourite:
'Tivolem'. I think it has captured
the love I have for Goa. In some
readers it generated warm feelings
for a patch of green land
that gave me birth, and for this I
am grateful.

Happy with the response?
Very happy. Quite aside from
the response from individual
readers, 'Tivolem' got me some
recognition in academic circles.
In 2003 it was part of the fi ction
curriculum at Sewanee University
in Tennessee, along with
Rushdie's 'Haroun' and the 'Sea
of Stories' and Roy's 'God of
Small Things'.

This semester it is being studied
at Yale University as part of
a literary course called 'World
Cities and Narratives'.

A book you wish you'd
written: Any book by Graham
Greene. Manil Suri's 'The Death
of Vishnu'. Mario Vargas Llosa's
masterpiece, 'Tia Julia' and the
'Scriptwriter'. Any book by P. G.
Wodehouse.

Goa's top authors: Damodar
Mauzo for his marvellous
Konkani stories that reveal deep
understanding of our people. The
prolific and thought provoking
late Ravindra Kelekar. Orlando
da Costa, who wrote in Portuguese,
Lambert Mascarenhas,
whom I must salute for his 'Sorrowing
Lies My Land'.

Your take on
Goa as a location for a story
idea: 'Tivolem' was set in Goa,
and many of my short stories are.
English books by Goans:

The books are now coming in a
flood, and the quality is improving
too, alleluia! I expect gifted members
of the Goa Writers Group to
signifi cantly contribute in years
to come. - LISA MONTEIRO

Home productions

* Tivolem, a novel about
Goa, published in the
US and in India (1998). It
was picked by Booklist as
one of the twenty notable
debut novels of the year.
The Indian edition was
shortlisted for the Crossword
Prize.

* Loving Ayesha, a short
story collection, published
in India (2003).

* Baroque Music, a Practical
Guide for the Performer,
published in New York
(1980).

* Chamber Music, an International
Guide to Works
and their Instrumentation
(w. co-author Robert
Markell) published in
New York (1993).

* Two other books on music;
one, a translation of
a 19th century treatise
originally in French and
Italian, published (1997);
the other, a translation
of twenty French poems
by Maeterlinck, Verlaine
and others, set to music
by Chausson (1998).

PHOTO: Victor Rangel-Ribeiro playing t

Re: [Goanet] The endemic corruption in Goa - shall we start doing something about it?

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Carmita says:
The order of shaking the corrupt culprits  to the core, is irrelevant. The
entire system of Goa and all politicians from all parties, all governments
officers, police, etc. etc. and big business,  every one needs to be shaken
to the core and given the shock  treatment preferably all at the same time -
a very clear and powerful message that civil society of Goa had ENOUGH!

Soter replies:
Probably it is me who is totally ignorant about ground realities on 
corruption after being in politics from a young age.

Even then, I do have suggestions.
Let each one focus on themselves and fulfill their fundamental duties of 
abuiding by all laws, the rest will follow.
Build and design nothing on hill slopes like our great environmentalists 
preach and do not practice. (Now do not tell me you did not understand)
Minimise on your luxuries and do not clog the streets of Panjim with big 
cars, the villages with hazardous technological and industrial wastes from 
lavish consumeritstic life styles.

Do not take grants from the government and sing their tunes.
Do not attend programs attended by politicians and corrupt officers.
Do not go for any favours to the politicians.
Say no to booze in Goa.
Say no to Casinos and other social evils.
Do not also patronise media which are known to be 'fixing agents'.
Do not take sponsors from miners, builders, casinos, liqour barons,
Finally , all this is at the core of corrupting society. The political 
market satisfies their customers. We are in a market economy whether you 
like it or not.


Sorry Carmita, after experiencing the operations of  Nitoll jinn, Jagrut 
Goem, Goa Bachao, Lok Shakti,  I would rather trust a drug addict, goon and 
a prostitute, who have contributed much to my understanding on the realities 
in life, but not many of those so called opportunistic parasites who float 
around goa's towns claiming to be upright. 

[Goanet] Kanheram-Nature’s food store and phar macy for insects-is there something useful for ai ling humans?

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Kanheram-Nature’s food store and pharmacy for insects-is there something
useful for ailing humans?



 In 2005 researchers from Thailand isolated a new class of cyclopeptide
alkaloids-Ziziphine N, O, P and Q and showed that these chemicals have anti
plasmodium falciparum activity. But they didn’t know that this plant is
common in Goa and attracts a large diversity of insects except the
mosquitoes.

A review by Joullie and Richards (2004) on cyclopeptide alkaloids says-“The
most investigated group of cyclopeptide alkaloids with respect to their
sedative properties has been the sanjoinines. Han and co-workers have
identified these agents as some of the principal components responsible for
the sedative activity of plants of the

Zizyphus species which have found use in traditional Chinese herbal medicine
as treatments for insomnia.”



There are still many unidentified chemicals in this plant which attracts the
insects. But here in Goa we have stressed more on edibility.



People prefer-Yellow, orange and red Boram (Ziziphus mauritiana, season
December to May), white, pink pearly Chunnam (Ziziphus rugosa, season March
to May) , black kanhera (ziziphys oenoplia, September-October)



These are ecologically, economically and medicinally useful wild Ziziphus
species of Goa. These are also major keystone species of Goa university
campus on Taleigao plateau spread over 1.70 sq. kms.

Among these only kanhera=jackal jujube or Ziziphus oenoplia begins flowering
and fruiting near the end of monsoon, precisely in September. It is a thorny
bush.

Now what’s so important about jackal jujube?

Years of observations showed me that it is virtually a food store and
Pharmacy of insects- once it begins flowering there is a procession of
insects-close to 200 species and still counting-these include all type of
beetles, flies, ants, spiders, wasps, bees, damselflies, butterflies-why so
many and so diverse-what is it in that thorny plant?

The images are available at

http://picasaweb.google.co.in/Nandkamat/KanheraJackalJujubeFloweringAttractsAProcessionOfInsects#

More members in the procession expected over the next two weeks…



And the short videoclips



The southern birdwing (?) was sighted hovering near the bushes

Watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_9J_f0CDWQ



The blue flower wasp (species unidentified)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jy9YGPnC04



The black and white floral wasp (unidentified species)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDrTUUUlnEw



Small, smart spiders strategizing for a feast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXXXgOyTsE4



The blue bottle fly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGsR-Cm3hlA




-- 
Dr. Nandkumar Kamat, GOA

Re: [Goanet] Pope aide pulls out of trip after Third World jibe

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On 16 September 2010 19:29, Frederick Noronha wrote:

>
> Terrible that they can even think of getting him to apologise to
> London... he should be, to the Third World! What a comparison
>
> COMMENT: Quote excerpt ''

But Monsignor Oliver Lahl, Kasper's spokesman, said the cardinal considered
the matter closed following a Vatican statement that claimed he was merely
highlighting Britain's multi-ethnic makeup.

"Kasper meant to say there are people there from all around the world and
you could be in Mumbai, Kinshasa, Islamabad or Nairobi," said Lahl.

"It was not a negative connotation, it was the opposite of racism. He meant
the UK is no longer a mono-ethnic or mono-religious state, and can be a
positive example for Europe."
Ends.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/16/pope-aide-walter-kasper-no-apology

Further hurt caused, suggesting all those workers from the third World,
working at Heathrow Airport! Germans are not noted for their tact.

Gabe.

[Goanet] Sleep Deprivation Makes You Crave Calories

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Sleep Deprivation makes you Crave Calories?
http://www.healthiertalk.com/sleep-deprivation-makes-you-crave-calories-2414

[Goanet] Talking Photos:Our trip to Marcel, Zuvem and Cumbharjua

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Our trip to Marcel, Zuvem and Cumbharjua

Zuvem or Jua (Island)
 
Or Zuvemcho Raza
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4997340217/sizes/l/
A dhekava (with natural looking spring etc)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4997944634/sizes/l/
 
Cumbhajua or Cumbarjuvem
Bhajans and Arti by avtars onboard (River)
And they actually play the instruments (Mechanical)
Watch  video clip.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4997341637/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4997341243/sizes/l/

Dancing Ganesha
And they actually dance (Mechanical – watch video clip)
With women and avtars
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4997338439/sizes/l/
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4997340891/
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4997945340/sizes/l/
 
At Marcel or Mashel
Bap, Put ani Avoi
At Khandola, Marcel -Goa
Jai Ganesha, Jai Ganesha Deva
Mata devi Parvati, Pita Mahadeva
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4997339279/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4997338901/sizes/l/
 
Our National Bird – The Peacock
And there are more than a dozen 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4997341983/sizes/l/
 
This one tell you all about Shigmo-
Romtomell, Dholl, Gumot etc etc
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4997947126/sizes/l/

Sorry, Photography not allowed here.
One can buy the photos for Rs.10 each
Following  are scanned pics
 
Of pond, lotus etc
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4998000506/sizes/l/
 
the lord stood on a tortoise (in a fish form)
and atlest 5 others seen with the lord
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4998000506/sizes/l/
 
A lord with Chakra
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4997395267/

Extra:
A view at Marcel Temple complex, main dhekava area
Under the rain clouds/sky and a lone tree which must be many years old
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4997947398/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk30/4997947780/sizes/l/

Video clip -cumbarjua dancing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g7gt0-AGDM
 
if you missed on Margao/Canacona trip
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-September/198964.html

Vasco
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-September/198903.html
 
Panjim
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-September/198919.html
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-September/198887.html


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[Goanet] Daily Grook #809

[Francis Rodrigues]

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DAILY GROOK #809
=
TEETH WIT
=
by Francis Rodrigues




turn and twist
teeth to spill,
'every dentist
knows the drill!



*GREAT ALL-OCCASION GIFT* http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com

sheet-music,tab,lyrics,chords of great Konkani pop hits
GOA: PEDRO FERNANDES: Tel.2226642 FURTADOS: Tel.2223278

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[Goanet] Wonderfully Described Definitions.........

[Gina Fernandes]

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CIGARETTE:
A pinch of tobacco 
rolled in paper 
with fire at one end 
and a fool at the other! 


MARRIAGE:
It's an agreement 
wherein 
a man loses his bachelor degree 
and a woman gains her master 


LECTURE:
An art of transmitting Information 
from the notes of the lecturer 
to the notes of students 
without passing through the minds 
of either 

CONFERENCE:
The confusion of one man 
multiplied by the 
number present 

COMPROMISE:
The art of dividing 
a cake in such a way that 
everybody believes 
he got the biggest piece 

TEARS:
The hydraulic force by which 
masculine will power is 
defeated by feminine water-power! 

DICTIONARY:
A place where divorce comes 
before marriage 

CONFERENCE ROOM:
A place where everybody talks, 
nobody listens 
and everybody disagrees later on 

ECSTASY:
A feeling when you feel 
you are going to feel 
a feeling 
you have never felt before 

CLASSIC:
A book 
which people praise, 
but never read 

SMILE:
A curve 
that can set 
a lot of things straight! 

OFFICE:
A place 
where you can relax 
after your strenuous 
home life 

YAWN:
The only time 
when some married men 
ever get to open 
their mouth 

ETC:
A sign 
to make others believe 
that you know 
more than 
you actually do 

COMMITTEE:
Individuals 
who can do 
nothing individually 
and sit to decide 
that nothing can be done 
together 

EXPERIENCE:
The name 
men give 
to their 
Mistakes 

ATOM BOMB:
An invention 
to bring an end 
to all 
inventions 

PHILOSOPHER:
A fool 
who torments himself 
during life, 
to be spoken of 
when dead 

DIPLOMAT:
A person 
who tells you 
to go to hell 
in such a way 
that you actually look forward 
to the trip 

OPPORTUNIST:
A person 
who starts taking bath 
if he 
accidentally falls 
into a river 

OPTIMIST:
A person 
who while falling 
from EIFFEL TOWER 
says in midway 
"SEE I AM NOT INJURED YET!" 

PESSIMIST:
A person 
who says that 
O is the last letter 
in ZERO, 
Instead of the first letter 
in OPPORTUNITY 

MISER:
A person 
who lives poor 
so that 
he can die RICH! 

 

CRIMINAL:
A guy 
no different 
from the other, 
unless he gets caught 

BOSS:
Someone 
who is early 
when you are late 
and late 
when you are early 

POLITICIAN:
One who 
shakes your hand 
before elections 
and your Confidence 
Later 

DOCTOR:
A person 
who kills 
your ills 
by pills, 
and kills you 
by his bills! 

[Goanet] TMVN: Dancing in Cumbharjua

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TMVN: Dancing in Cumbharjua
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g7gt0-AGDM
 

 
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