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Dear Dear Camillo, I understand you point of view absolutely and completely. I am not talking from a position of Ambanis and Tatas either. What I am saying is: If we Goans are so much interested about the GOAN IDENTITY than it is unworthy of us leaving GOA like 'lemmings' and talking about preserving GOAN IDENTITY. For every Goan that leaves its shores to settle outside, there are twenty who come in to fill the vacuum and stay put here never to leave. And the worst part is that they stay in our houses and own our properties. I am talking from the point of view that if all we Goans come together on just one AGENDA, that is to change the POLITICAL SCENE here in Goa so that Goa's affairs are decided here in Goa and not in New Delhi, then things will be so good in Goa for Goans that all other Goans who have settled (not too well) abroad and elsewhere in India may want to come back home to live and enjoy their lives as Goans with Goa being the envy of everyone else. I have spent my last 15 years finding a recepe that will WORK and I have gone grey, in every sense of the word trying to put it on the fying pan to serve Goans to their satisfaction. But unfortunately, I have not been able to light the fires needed. But I still do nurse HOPES that GOANs will turn around to accept that DELHI HIGH COMMANDS are destroying Goa by the HOUR. Please do not nurse ill-feelings on my calling Goans elsewere being third class citizens. I have been around the world in my days of sailing. And I have never contemplated in settling anywhere but in Goa. The reason is: NO ONE, Repeat NO ONE can call me 'BLACK' and tell me to go home to where I belong. Because I am at HOME in Goa and want to make it so good, that there will be no place in the world for GOANS to say, this foreign country is my HOME without some misgivings. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org - Original Message - From: Camillo Fernandes camillofernan...@hotmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:10 PM Subject: [Goanet] Migration for better quality of life. floriano wrote : floriano.l...@gmail.comTo: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!A Portuguese passport to get a third class citizenship of Europe??:-))Cheersflorianogoasuraj9890470896- Original Message - From: Arwin Mesquita arwinmesqu...@gmail.comTo: Goanet goa...@goanet.orgSubject: [Goanet] Goan Un-Necessary Migration MindsetRecently, I saw a BBC documentary on migration touched upon the sizeableGoan Community in Swindon, UK.The Documentary showed some UK Goans, making a difficult living via jobslike carpentry, cleaning, plumbing etc The Irony is that in Goa today, thesevery tasks can earn significant income and it?s very difficult to get suchlabour in Goa today. Goans are OK to do such jobs outside for a comparablelesser net savings vs. a good earning opportunity in Goa!! Comments : Camilo If there was no corruption, pollution, good and affodable education, medical facilities, well paid jobs, decent affordable housing etc. one would never have thought of migrating even if an opportunity arose. It is only thanks to the Portuguese that we got the right to come to migrate to Europe. Ashwin says that in Goa many tasks can earn significant income and Goans are ok to do such jobs outside for a comprarable lesser net savings v/s. a good earning opportunity in Goa. I dont understand how he can compare earnings here with earnings back home. What about the quality of life i.e. pollution, overcrowding, lack of affordable medical facilities, favouritism in getting choice jobs etc. If all is rosy in Goa/India then why should people take up jobs overseas in the Gulf, where there is so much discrimination, on ships etc. One has also to look at the future and long term prospects of our family/children. Could we afford the best education in India with fierce competi tion and such exorbitant fees.In India if we were like the Tatas, Ambanis, Birlas etc. maybe then there would never have been any reason to migrate. We are sure the children/future generations would be happy and grateful for the decision of migrating.Lastly I am not advocating migration but am giving my personal views to the ones given above.With best wishes,Dev borem korumCamilo Fernandes _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check
[Goanet] CHURCH ALCOHOL SLUMLORDS BUILDERS POLITICIANS..
They misuse church funds……….they flirt with certain gullible lonely women from the parish……..they indulge in paedophile activity……..they allow women who have worn vulgar and short clothes entry into church premises…..they allow the anti-christ Hollywood bollywood shooting locations inside church premises….…they illegally sell vacant church properties and siphon off the money…….they behave like dictators……they refuse admission to children of poor catholics in parish schools……they travel in aeroplanes even when there are inter city/state bus and trains available…….they talk of charity and serving the poor during sunday sermons but don’t practice what they preach…..they are pimps of politicians…….they believe that the Church is their father’s property…..…..these Rogue Elements who have infiltrated the Roman Catholic Church are destroying Catholicism from the Inside unlike the Protestant Britishers, Al-Qaeda, Taliban, RSS, VHP, BajrangDal Shiv Sena who are destroying Catholicism from the Outside……NO NOT ALL OUR PRIESTS ARE ROGUE ELEMENTS But then, as the saying goes, one bad apple in the basket full of good apples can ruin that basket. In his new book, George Bush reveals his story of abrogating alcohol from being a hardcore drinker. Alcohol becomes central to your life. And I finally woke up and realized that I did not want to live a life where alcohol was central. And I'm convinced, I really am convinced, had I not quit drinking, I wouldn't be sitting here as a former President. he added. In order to maintain his rigid discipline, George imposed an inflexible order on his life. Like any addict in recovery, he needed a regular schedule, rising early and retiring early. He prayed daily from his Bible, which was divided into 365 readings, each from the New Testament, the Old Testament, Psalms and Proverbs. Edgy and impatient, he exercised at least one hour, sometimes two hours, a day. With martinet punctuality, he started and ended meetings exactly on time. The routine became the core of his developing political career, first as governor of Texas and then as president. Christians in India are not only being looted of their lands in Broad-Day-Light but are also being denied Govt. Job rights, Civic rights, Human rights. But no problem. The command to endure suffering is just another part of a Christian's life. Faithful Christians of all ages have suffered; we are not the only ones. We should expect more sufferings to come because we are living in a country which is hostile to Christians Christianity. The Marathas who dominate the Politics Administration of Maharashtra are not the natives of Konkan. This explains why the Marathas were/are not interested in protecting the open spaces, gardens, playgrounds, mangroves, saltpan lands, forests, wetlands, ponds, wells, lakes, agricultural lands, quarries or pits, creeks, water sources in the konkan region from being encroached by the Slumlords, Builders, Bureaucrats, SEZ operators, Mining operators, IAS/IPS officers, Municipal Ward Officers, Collectors Corrupt/Greedy Politicians. There has to be debate in India as to why the Christian Missionaries are aggressively trying to convert only the Dalits Tribals to Christianity. There has to be a debate on the sources of funds of Christian missionaries. There has to be a debate whether the Indian Government should put a BAN on entry of Christian missionaries Right wing Hindu groups in Dalit Tribal areas. There has to be a debate as to why Politicians in India are not interested in passing stringent anti-corruption laws. China has passed severe anti-corruption laws including death penalty. There has to be a debate whether the Brahmins Upper Caste Hindus are Indians or Indo-Aryans from Persia. There has to be a debate as to why all the leaders of rss, vhp, bajrangdal bjp are from the Uppercastes Brahmin stock. There has to be a debate why the secular Congress Party has banned some Muslim fundemantalist groups but the same secular congress party has not banned Hindu fundamentalist groups. There are some Christians in India who inspite of having Christian names have given their children Hindu names. There has to be a debate to find out the reasons behind this. The credit for India’s Freedom should go to the Germans Japanese who severely injured the military spine of the British Empire during the Second World War. With an injured military spine the British Empire was not in a position to control the freedom struggle in India and fled in a hurry in 1947. INDIA’s TRAGEDY : 1. Over-Population and Female foeticide/infanticide. 2. Water shortage in most parts of the country 3. The low standard of education in government schools 4. High cost of real estate in urban India 5. A 'slow ' and 'overburdened' legal system 6. Bad Roads 7. Communalism and divisive politics. 8. Allurement based conversion activities of Christian Missionaries and Forcible Re-conversion activities
[Goanet] Indian Ambassador hosted reception to Goan leaders (Goan Convention 2010)
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Indian Ambassador hosted reception to Goan leaders
The Ambassador of India H.E. Ajai Malhotra hosted representatives of the
Goan community in Kuwait to interact with former Chief Minister of Goa
and Member of the Congress Working Committee, Hon’ble Luizinho Faleiro,
Goa Chief Secretary Mr. S.K. Srivastava, besides prominent Goans from a
dozen countries, including India. Also present at the meeting were
eminent authors, poets, educationists, and other Konkani speakers from
Goa who were visiting Kuwait for the 5th Global Goans Convention held in
Kuwait from November 16-17, 2010. Addressing the gathering, Ambassador
Malhotra noted that Kuwait is a home away from home for nearly 50,000
Goans. They are a vibrant part of the Indian community in Kuwait, which
is acknowledged as being sincere, hard-working, talented, and
disciplined. He complimented Goans in Kuwait for nurturing their
culture, including through music, dance, tiatr, and football, while
extending humanitarian support to the needy. Hon’ble Faleiro and Chief
Secretary Srivastava thanked the Ambassador for support and assistance
to the community. Hon’ble Faleiro also gifted his autobiography, “My
Goa”, to the Ambassador, while the Chief Secretary presented books on
Goa for the Embassy Library.
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Heartiest CONGRATULATINOS to you Oscar.
That was a marvelous speech.
Very well appreciated
Hopefully the good words didn't fall on hard rocks to bounce off.
:-))
Cheers
floriano
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From: Oscar Lobo
Dears
Here is the extract of the speech I delivered in Q8 as an invited guest
to the forum that took place on 16/17 November 2010.
I believe the convention was a success.
I am now off to another country for 3 days.
Take care of yourselves and your loved ones.
Regards
Oscar
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Dear Oscar,
It was wonderful to have two of our 'Goan' Councillors (other being
Bruno Gomes) speak at the Convention .I think more than anyone, you guys
made a bigger difference to this convention.
Bruno Gome's presentation on Panchayat Raj and the Swiss comune system
was thought provoking.
Wish someone could publish congressman Luizinho Faleiro's speech too.
Cheers
Benedict
2010/11/19 Oscar Lobo
Dears
Here is the extract of the speech I delivered in Q8 as an invited guest
to the forum that took place on 16/17 November 2010.
I believe the convention was a success.
I am now off to another country for 3 days.
Take care of yourselves and your loved ones.
Regards
Oscar
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Re: [Goanet] Politics, lies or ignorance
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- A new book club focused entirely on writing about Goa First meeting: November 18, 2010 @ 5pm @ Broadway, 18th June Road, Panaji Details at: http://ttt-goa.notlong.com or SMS 9822122436 --- Interesting. What do you understand by journalistic priviledges? Does it have anything to do with: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/journalist's+privilege Noun1. journalist's privilege - the right of a journalist to refuse to divulge sources of confidential information privilege - (law) the right to refuse to divulge information obtained in a confidential relationship FN On 18 November 2010 21:42, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: Indeed, you are worse because, unlike them, you do it as part of your professional writing, abusing your journalistic privileges in the process.
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Dear Oscar C Lobo,
Quote from William Arthur Ward:
“The mediocre teacher tells, the good teacher explains, the superior
teacher demonstrates, the great teacher inspires”.
These words really mean a lot to me as a Goan and being a Goan living in
my lovely state, outside my state and country. There is a common saying
in Goa “patrao, tujee wodwick and patrad tujhea lagin dhowor” and it is
true for people to accept the fact and lower their high ended nose for
their eye can only see what they see and not see themselves.
Sorry to say these words. I read your high ended speech and it did not
even make the smallest change or the difference to what the political
situation or people in Goa are currently doing. It is just like the same
dessert with a different topping. The taste does not change but only the
looks of how it is served.
An action speaks mightier than words and this is what I believe. If I
read correctly 40 years of your life you are living out from Goa which
you are trying to bring together not knowing the actual situation way
back home. There is a saying “one only knows the value of sweet taste
only on tasting something which is bitter”. To really know the situation
and the growth of Goa, you need to live in Goa and be a Goan, understand
the different cultures, hardships, challenges etc etc.
Ghodhe ke pitche basuri bajayanghe tho faida khai? Die for your own self
and surrender everything in the name of God and you will find success.
Mother Theresa said “I live where my heart lives with the Lord” and this
is where she found success and the Lord is with her and the mission to
his glory.
God bless you Mr. Oscar Lobo and pray that we reason ourselves not from
the mind but from the heart where you will find peace and life. Romans 8:6
Hat zodhun magtha – makha bogos jorui thor mojhe utran khodsan assa
zalair. I am just a positive Goan critic because I love my Goa and will
do everything for my Goa. I am gifted by God to write for Goa.
With love and prayers to Goa and to all Goans
Tome de Souza
Dubai
Re: [Goanet] RIBANDAR CHURCH CASE CHARGE SHEET WAS F ILED WITH THEN CM RANE’S APPROVAL
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[Goanet] Slaughtering of animals - sacrifice.
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- A new book club focused entirely on writing about Goa First meeting: November 18, 2010 @ 5pm @ Broadway, 18th June Road, Panaji Details at: http://ttt-goa.notlong.com or SMS 9822122436 --- Bulls slaughtered in open, Baina tense Tension prevailed at Baina beach yesterday after Vasco police arrested 35 persons for butchering animals and rescued as many as 26 bulls. Police said these animals were brought to Baina beach for slaughtering even as 87 animals were butchered there despite protests from residents, animal lovers and the representatives of People for Animals. The animals were brought to Baina beach in the morning as part of Bakri-Id celebrations, where animals were sacrificed. [GT] COMMENT: Here in the U.K. , increasingly we are dished up with halal meat, whether we like it or not. Many Super Marts are purveyors of the stuff. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Goan / Manglorean students.. around Brisbane and Queensland, Australia
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Message to all Goan / Manglorean students/ new migrants in Brisbane and
around Queensland and those looking for a Goan club or requiring assistance.
Please get in touch with us and we will try and help you in any way we can.
Kind regards
Joy and Louis de Souza
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[Goanet] GOAMAP objects to the Alemao manipulation of mining employment statistics
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- A new book club focused entirely on writing about Goa First meeting: November 18, 2010 @ 5pm @ Broadway, 18th June Road, Panaji Details at: http://ttt-goa.notlong.com or SMS 9822122436 --- Goa Federation of Mines Affected People (GOAMAP) takes strong objections to the manipulation of mining generated employment indulged in by Minister Churchill Alemao. Mr. Alemao stated that mining industry generates employment for 5 lakh people in an interview published in 2010 issue of UAE Goan Review. GOAMAP considers this as the gross manipulation of statistics and demands Churchill Alemao to make the names of 5 lakh people employed by mining industry public. GOAMAP also wants to know from Mr. Alemao the break up of as to how many people of the 5 lakh are employed on contract basis and those on permanent basis. GOAMAP is of the considered opinion that Mr. Alemao has been inflating the employment figures only protect his family businesses including his Minister brother Joaquim Alemao involved in mining that is rapidly destroying Goa. GOAMAP however congratulates Mr. Alemao for admitting in the same interview that in case mining in Goa is stopped government will fall. This is very true considering that fact that it is the mining companies that are involved in running the Goa government. So from this it becomes clear that Mr. Alemao is totally insensitive to the gross ecological destruction of Goa including the western ghats and wants mining to carry on so that government does not fall. GOAMAP urges Mr.Alemao to wake up from his slumber and stopped being advocate of mining industry.
[Goanet] CM's reputation in respecting local sentiments
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- A new book club focused entirely on writing about Goa First meeting: November 18, 2010 @ 5pm @ Broadway, 18th June Road, Panaji Details at: http://ttt-goa.notlong.com or SMS 9822122436 --- It is easy for CM to respect local sentiments where there is no money! Rajendra In response to Herald news: Islands takeover: Govt to respect local sentiments, says Digambar Chief Minister, Digambar Kamat has said his government would accord top priority to the sentiments of the local population vis-à-vis the demand made by the Indian Navy for NOC to take over the Piequeno and Grande Island off Vasco. “My government has just received a letter on the request for NOC for the Navy to take over the two Islands. We have not yet discussed the issue threadbare. But, what I can say is that this government would fully respect the sentiments of the locals”, Kamat told Herald when his reaction was sought to the statement made by Defense Minister A K Anthony in the Rajya Sabha.
[Goanet] Obituary - Antonette Fernandes (Goa/Kuwait)
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O B I T U A R Y
Antonette Fernandes
(Employee of Alghanim International – Avenues Project- Kuwait)
Died: 15 Nov 2010
Beloved wife of Roque (Rockson) A. Fernandes (Monte De Guirim).
Daughter of Manuel Delphine Sequeira.
Sister of Bernadette, Fatima, James.
Expired under tragic circumstances in Kuwait.
Funeral Cortege will leave her residence on Saturday, 20th Nov, 2010 at
4.00 pm to St. Diago's Church, Monte de Guirim for Euchasristic
celebration, followed by burial.
Give her eternal rest, O Lord,
and may Your light shine upon her forever.
SOURCE: Goa World
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[Goanet] Wildtrek Adventures - BikeSsScape 2010
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Wildtrek's BikeSsScape 2010 in association with HCN has few seats
left, featuring the determination of participants, on their motorbikes
we traverse 3 states Goa- Karnataka - Maharashtra within a day
covering challenging terrains and awesome views. Most girls will be
covering it on the Activa while the guys have an array of bikes from
Enfields to Dios. Besides going thru total mountain and forest
terrain, we shall participate in the inauguration of IFFI Shopping and
food festival along with the Chief and film stars at Panaji.
To take
part in the rally call Dr. Prithvi 9822123458 Savio9822155805 Sameer
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Dear Oscar,
Well written, hard work taken in writing this speech. Not to mention
your famous word “knee jerk”.
But I have to agree with Floriano, sad if this speech falls on deaf ears
esp to know that you have made this journey of 6,447 miles and nothing
concrete turns of it. Wish you all success.
Mog Assum,
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[Goanet] Invitation: First World Konkani Cutural Convention (Nov 25 - Dec 19, 2010)
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Convention.
Invite can be seen at:
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Thank you
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[Goanet] Ladies Musical Show held
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Ladies Musical Show held
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The Birth Anniversary of Regina Fernandes, the ‘First Lady of the Tiatr
Stage’ was celebrated on 16th November 2010 at Ravindra Bhavan, Margao
by organising a ‘Ladies Musical Show’. All the actors in the musical
show were female artistes of tiatr stage and the roles of males were
enacted effectively by the females only.
The Musical Show presented solos, duets, trios and quartets besides
skits by female artistes. Solos by Sharon, Bushan, Bushka and Rosy
Alvares were very impressive while Jessie Dias/Rosy Alvares,
Felcy/Fatima and Anjela/Roma sang entertaining duets.Duos by
Dorothy/Esilda and Sonia/Bushan also received good applause. A trio sang
by young children Violet, Josepha and Vhorty so also their quartet with
Maria Cardozo were well appreciated by the audience.
Besides songs, two hilarious skits were presented by the female
artistes. The first skit was acted by Clara, Joana, Aplonia, Valencia
and Fatima while the second skit featured Anjela, Rudolfin, Chitra and
Sonia Fernandes. Both skits were well appreciated by the huge audience.
Antonette Mendes, the popular tiatr artiste and singer of yester years
was the Chief Guest. In her speech, she thanked TAG for inviting her to
the function and expressed her gratitude to the people of Goa
particularly the lovers of tiatr for giving her full support in her
journey to success on the tiatr stage.
TAG presented photographs of Regina Fernandes and Joao Agostinho
Fernandes ‘The Father of Tiatr’ to the family members through the hands
of Antonette Mendes.
Earlier Shri.Tomazinho Cardozo, the President of TAG welcomed and later
Shri. Roseferns, Vice-President of TAG proposed a vote of thanks. Sharon
Mazarello and Irene Cardozo compered the function.
Photos:
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Re: [Goanet] Politics, lies or ignorance
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- A new book club focused entirely on writing about Goa First meeting: November 18, 2010 @ 5pm @ Broadway, 18th June Road, Panaji Details at: http://ttt-goa.notlong.com or SMS 9822122436 --- Good Morning Santosh, It seems U have woken up after two weeks, with a 'confusion headache'. I thought Scientists and neuron surgeons would be able to prevent/ cure such happenings by themselves before submitting other people to undeserved misery from your name calling and mixing up, on topics. I know it is 'typical of you', but did not realise this malaise is so badly deep rooted in you! Get well soon please! We miss your SANE? advise on goanet! At least that is what you seem to think! Saiba Bogus! Nascimento Caldeira (continued below) --- On Thu, 18/11/10, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: Received: Thursday, 18 November, 2010, 7:38 AM Admin Noronha, Here are clarifications to your confusion: Nascimento: Why are U calling Frederick as Admin Noronha? H? Has he called you as 'neurotic' Silly' Santosh or something like that? NO! I would want an apology from you on this name calling, unconditionally, and now. Santosh: The 16th, 17th and 18th centuries are three of the five centuries that we were under Portuguese rule. I would like to know if there were any human rights violations in these cherry picked centuries. The names of people that I have cherry picked are recognised as individuals who participated in the Goan freedom movement, some of whom suffered imprisonment or loss of life as a consequence of their participation. Nascimento's response: There have been human rights violations not only in those cherry picked centuries. but before that too and continuing. I am sure U would love to know such human rights violations not only from colonial powers but also from local/national/ indigenous govt.s and authorities. Would you not? The Hindu Widows who are led to commit Sati, for one has been going on for centuries, and Santosh did not even shed a crocodile tear for these poor Hindu widows! Ha Hah! Then there are the casteless Hindus, the harijans , and dalits etc. who have been denied 'HUMAN RIGHTS and trampled upon by the Caste Hindus and Casteists, who thrive on the humiliation of these unfortunate people. Is it not true that U are a part of this high Caste Society! Shame on you, Santosh! These people were not even given ANIMAL RIGHTS leave alone human rights! Santosh: I would like to have answers to my questions, and in the process reduce my level of ignorance and that of other Goanetters such as you, Bernado, Nascimento and Ferdinando. Nascimento: Hope U now realise how Ignorant U are on and about Human Rights. Your 'level' of ignorance is so selective and deliberate, that it is at the level of the gutters! I say so! And U have the gall to take my name and Barnado's and Dr Ferdinand to your level of ignoramus! I had made no comment on Human rights; but only ventured to comment on FAKE FFs as undeserving on the topic Goan War Veterans'. U brought my name into this topic of human rights; that is why this is my response to you. I now want an Unconditional Apology to me, to Bernado, to FN and to Ferdinand from you, Santosh for trying to drag me (and us) down to your gutter level. NASCIMENTO CALDEIRA
[Goanet] Song for the day.
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- A new book club focused entirely on writing about Goa First meeting: November 18, 2010 @ 5pm @ Broadway, 18th June Road, Panaji Details at: http://ttt-goa.notlong.com or SMS 9822122436 --- Gloria Estefan - Hold me, thrill me, kiss me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4LI_O7vuUQfeature=fvw -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Politics, lies or ignorance
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- A new book club focused entirely on writing about Goa First meeting: November 18, 2010 @ 5pm @ Broadway, 18th June Road, Panaji Details at: http://ttt-goa.notlong.com or SMS 9822122436 --- Ferdinando, Here are my responses to the questions and comments in the latest abusive, cranky and absurd post of yours. --- On Thu, 11/18/10, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com wrote: The quantum of his ignorance stands exposed by the very fact that he has dragged Mr. Nascimento in this , when Mr. Nascimento has not posted his views at all on this thread. This statement is illogical. Mentioning Nascimento's name has no bearing on whether I am ignorant or not. The reason I referred to him is because of his ignorant prejudicial statement below in one of his latest Goanet posts: QUOTE The so called Freedom Fighters are just all Fake, at least most of them. It is the Indian Armed Forces that liberated? (annexed) Goa, if at all; not the flimsy FFs!! I knew of some of these guys whose main grouse used to be against the Bhatkars and Gaunkaris of yesteryear. They were fighting for their 'personal' freedom, alright! They are now 'given'/ handed out the 'cloak' of FF cover; like a Burqa!! UNQUOTE .Nascimento Caldeira Please see: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-November/201567.html In my post I had only denied what Dr. Oscar had quoted. QOUTE:” It is an indisputable fact that for over 400 years, Goans were subjugated to the worst human right abuses and tortures under the Portuguese rule.” UNQUOTE. Does Santosh feel this statement is true? I don't know for sure whether those in power in the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries murdered, dismembered, tortured, raped, and incarcerated people, and destroyed their temples, mosques and/or other property. I don't know for sure whether they forcibly converted native Goans and imposed restrictions on their lifestyle on pain of death, torture and/or imprisonment. I also don't know which of these things, if any, people like Agente Monteiro did before 1961. I don't know what sort of due process existed before 1961. That is why I asked these questions. Since you deny what Oscar stated, could you please answer my questions, and tell me where you obtained your knowledge of 500 years of Portuguese history in Goa? Santosh would do well if he corrects his English. I have not dragged Saddam into the discussion. There is a vast difference between starting a discussion and continuing one. I started it mentioning Saddam’s human rights violation in comparison to Dr. Oscar’s claim. This statement is illogical and boorishly absurd. If you mentioned Saddam's human rights violations then you obviously dragged Saddam Hussein into this discussion. What kind of crazy English makes you believe otherwise? Here is the quote showing how you dragged Saddam Hussein into the discussion: QUOTE What Portuguese did in Goa was only maintaining STRICT discipline and quelling anti-Portuguese movement. Saddam Hussein did the same (may be worse), but for the sake of Iraq. The country prospered. What is its fate now? Are the citizens safe and having better human rights with Saddam’s elimination? UNQUOTE ..Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão Please see: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-November/201602.html There Santosh goes again dragging Mr. Nascimento. Why has he not mentioned about jc’s post which reproduced available data? I did not mention Jose's post because I have no basis to dispute the specific facts stated by him. I have already stated why I mentioned Nascimento in connection with Goan freedom fighters. Does Santosh feel these characters were different in their activities than the Naxalites, Maoists or Terrorists? Or does he think that the data is false and fabricated? Some of the activities mentioned, if true, indicate to me that these characters were lawbreakers and violent extremists. They were different from the Naxalities, Maoists and terrorists because the activities stated indicate that, unlike the latter, the former characters did not murder, dismember, torture and rape anybody. They did not terrorize the population of Goa. I have no reason or basis to believe that the facts stated by Jose are false and fabricated. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] Slaughtering of animals - sacrifice.
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- A new book club focused entirely on writing about Goa First meeting: November 18, 2010 @ 5pm @ Broadway, 18th June Road, Panaji Details at: http://ttt-goa.notlong.com or SMS 9822122436 --- What's wrong with halal meat? Does it taste bad? Or is it just culture-specific intolerance at work? What if someone said why a weekly holiday on Sunday, instead of say, Tuesday? FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490 COMMENT: Here in the U.K. , increasingly we are dished up with halal meat, whether we like it or not. Many Super Marts are purveyors of the stuff.
Re: [Goanet] GLOBAL GOANS CONVENTION -2010
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- A new book club focused entirely on writing about Goa First meeting: November 18, 2010 @ 5pm @ Broadway, 18th June Road, Panaji Details at: http://ttt-goa.notlong.com or SMS 9822122436 --- Good speech, Oscar. May it help bring about the long needed goan tsunami. We Goans have loved everyone else for too long, it is now time to love ourselves. -Soter
[Goanet] RIBANDAR CHURCH CASE CHARGE SHEET WAS FILED WITH THEN CM RANE’S APPROVAL
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- A new book club focused entirely on writing about Goa First meeting: November 18, 2010 @ 5pm @ Broadway, 18th June Road, Panaji Details at: http://ttt-goa.notlong.com or SMS 9822122436 --- Fri Nov 19 04:23:53 PST 2010,J. Colaco jc colaco1 at gmail.com wrote: This story tells us why Goa will never ever return to civility . but has become the land of Thugs, Goons, Mawalis, Vigilantes and Disorderos. No wonder the Vandalistos of Fontainhas are strutting their stuff ad infinitum. And these are the On Target Goa heroes. Brilliant! The operative questions: a: When is alleged molestation incident said to have occured? b: When did this Goon Assault occur? c: What happened? The Rule of Law is no longer applicable in Goa? d: Or is it that the Power in Goa is 'separated' between The Executive, Legislature, Judiciary and the GUNDAS? jc COMMENT : I do not understand head nor tail what jc is trying to convey. But one thing to me is glaring. That jc wants to impress that he knows Portuguese by exposing his ignorance of it. I have noticed this term having been used twice by jc in his posts, which is a literal translation of Konkani: “Disorder”. In Portuguese it is “disordeiro”. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
[Goanet] Barkhagate
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- A new book club focused entirely on writing about Goa First meeting: November 18, 2010 @ 5pm @ Broadway, 18th June Road, Panaji Details at: http://ttt-goa.notlong.com or SMS 9822122436 --- To Goanet - Another one from the Dept of What-Admin-Noronha-wants-to-keep-out-of-Goanet. The rotten, corrupt media in India beginning with the queen of them all, Burqa Dutt, now exposed. The same Burqa who fawned over Pervez Musharraf, the architect of Kargil and the murderer of Indians. http://tinyurl.com/32y6twk ps: I don't know if this has been posted on Goanet. The actual audio tapes are available on the web (do a Google search). r
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Fr. Agnelo - His Birth place (Anjuna), Last days at Rachol (the pulpit, the bedroom), the cemetery, the grave, the Church, the Seminary, the Tomb at Pilar etc
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- A new book club focused entirely on writing about Goa First meeting: November 18, 2010 @ 5pm @ Broadway, 18th June Road, Panaji Details at: http://ttt-goa.notlong.com or SMS 9822122436 --- Talking Photos: Fr. Agnelo - His Birth place (Anjuna), Last days at Rachol (the pulpit, the bedroom), the cemetery, the grave, the Church, the Seminary, the Tomb at Pilar etc Happy Feast to you All Venerable Agnelo D'Souza (Fr. Agnelo) We left 11.30am for a short tour to Rachol Seminary, Church, cemetery, Pilar and Anjuna, back home at 7pm with two hour lunch break at a Rachol Restaurant. All these pics are taken today between the above hours. Sadly, we could not get inside the house at Anjuna as we were told the inmates of the house had gone out (Fr. Agnelo brother's (grand?)daughter- in-law and her son). Hope I got it right. Fr. Agnelo D'Souza was born in Anjuna Gaumvaddy in 1869 Died at Rachol Seminary on 20th November, 1927 He was buried there at Rachol Cemetery. see pic His mortal remains were transferred to Pilar in 1939 When Fr. Agnelo was buried, the priest who performed the final rites said 'I have just laid a Saint to rest' 'Saiba Sant Agnel, mhojea oslia patkeamchoi ugddas kor' Birth Place / House (Anjuna) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189241325/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189240275/sizes/l/ Son of Gaumvaddi, Anjuna http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189839356/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189840882/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189241837/ Rachol Seminary Pulpit – Here Fr. Agnelo collapsed while preaching and died The next day 20.11.1927 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189223667/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189224359/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189224853/sizes/l/ Fr. Agnelo Bed / Room In here He lived from 1918 till His death on 20/11/1927 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189226681/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189227019/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189826154/ the crucifix on the wall http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189227759/ At the Room Entrance /door http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189228333/ The Cemetery and Grave Fr. Agnelo lay buried here till Jan.9, 1939. His remains were transferred to Pilar Monastery on Jan.10, 1939 http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189829706/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189230295/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189229653/sizes/l/ At Pilar The Tomb http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189835870/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189837424/sizes/l/ Ven. Fr. Agnelo D’Souza http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189836374/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189238241/sizes/l/ Related pic Rachol Seminary -Church http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189233719/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189234773/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189834126/sizes/l/ The Main Altar http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189225661/sizes/l/ The beautiful side wall of the main altar http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189824938/sizes/l/ The Seminary -Rachol http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189234273/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189834676/sizes/l/ Raitura Fort gate with church in the background http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189236723/sizes/l/ Mother of all Churches of Salcette Rachol Church Our Lady of Snows (1566) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189831326/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189233109/sizes/l/ More about the Rachol Church (Cumcolim Martyrs etc) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5190036248/sizes/l/ Pilar Church http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5190322276/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189724465/sizes/l/ At Pilar Church today - Mass etc http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189838354/sizes/l/ the Mass http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189239295/sizes/l/ Pilar Seminary http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5190328712/sizes/l/ finally, this is also today 19.11.10 at Pilar (Mouth watering for some) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189762845/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk33/5189763477/sizes/l/ Thank you for your time. joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Abuse of journalistic privileges
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- A new book club focused entirely on writing about Goa First meeting: November 18, 2010 @ 5pm @ Broadway, 18th June Road, Panaji Details at: http://ttt-goa.notlong.com or SMS 9822122436 --- Admin Noronha, I am talking about abuse of journalistic privileges, not journalistic privilege. Isn't falsification or fabrication of facts, or smearing of people in newspaper articles or on news websites by a professional journalist who has privileged access to these publications, regarded as abuse of journalistic privileges? Cheers, Santosh --- On Thu, 11/18/10, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting. What do you understand by journalistic priviledges? Does it have anything to do with: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/journalist's+privilege Noun1.journalist's privilege - the right of a journalist to refuse to divulge sources of confidential information privilege - (law) the right to refuse to divulge information obtained in a confidential relationship FN On 18 November 2010 21:42, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: Indeed, you are worse because, unlike them, you do it as part of your professional writing, abusing your journalistic privileges in the process.
[Goanet] Goa news for November 20, 2010
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Ang Lee at IFFI - Hindustan Times 4IR_TGa5vdL2mqkhA http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFn40Gaw_6aVOCrJIJTM3z-oBmQEwurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Ang-Lee-at-IFFI/Article1-628404.aspx *** Farmers oppose proposed underground gas pipeline in Goa - Rediff ominated talukas of the state. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNG8eMyQUWBA9sSRzPo7aqJZMzWNtgurl=http://www.rediff.com/business/report/-farmers-oppose-proposed-underground-gas-pipeline-in-goa/20101118.htm *** State-private bus collision kills 3, injures 25 on Mumbai-Goa Highway - Indian Express n collision between a state transport bus and a private bus on the Mumbai-Goa highway in the wee hours ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNF0tRSqxji5X92EI-Cv5EgUcvlZzQurl=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/stateprivate-bus-collision-kills-3-injures-25-on-mumbaigoa-highway/713236/ *** 'No hurry to elect new state NCP head' - Times of India ealth of the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNG9JraUszEWBFK4Y9E2n3gQjAvi3Aurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/No-hurry-to-elect-new-state-NCP-head/articleshow/6957284.cms *** Akshay and Twinkle go on a holiday to Goa - NDTV.com ay holiday to Goa with wife Twinkle to their bungalow at Anjuna beach. It's not just couple time. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNE2M4CbJ4XwexnW2GbEaAw5xImPoAurl=http://movies.ndtv.com/movie_story.aspx?section=MoviesId=ENTEN20100160455keyword=bollywoodsubcatg=MOVIESINDIAnid=67128 *** GTDC set to evict illegal occupants from properties - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: The Goa Tourism Development Corporation (GTDC) says it has started the process of evicting illegal occupants, and lessess defaulting on payments in ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGfrBPlsgA5yeYP3WqRNKyoVQvq-Aurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/GTDC-set-to-evict-illegal-occupants-from-properties/articleshow/6957323.cms *** Maharashtra contract killer nabbed - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: A contract killer who shot dead the deputy sarpanch of Narayan Gawhan in Ahmednagar district, Maharashtra last month and then escaped to Goa was ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGdKw-Uu3RwRi4ad-9GZSr0zSMDdgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Maharashtra-contract-killer-nabbed/articleshow/6957313.cms *** Man accused in Vasco molestation case acquitted - Times of India mes of IndiaWhile acquitting the accused, charged under Section 354 (molestation) of Indian Penal Code read with Section 8 (2) (sexual assault) of the Goa Children's ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGNP1oudiiTHas9h_E-XYmFKi9q_Qurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Man-accused-in-Vasco-molestation-case-acquitted/articleshow/6957319.cms *** Four students take off to Goa; parents in a tizzy - Times of India mes of IndiaPolice suspect that the students may have gone to Goa. College sources said that the students had been planning this escapade from quite some time and the ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFJWZDrCPJ4NIoZg4d8246yklMP6wurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangalore/Four-students-take-off-to-Goa-parents-in-a-tizzy/articleshow/6956427.cms *** Worldwide weather woes to drive cashew price nuts - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: Cashew processors in Goa and elsewhere are keeping a close watch on weather conditions locally and in west African countries as raw material ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEv3aV1TpcJU1CoUbwpPqDcrBCgUAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Worldwide-weather-woes-to-drive-cashew-price-nuts/articleshow/6957268.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (19Nov10)
*** Goa CM at Goa Day Delhi *** Come celebrate Goa's 50yrs of Freedom...see Goa's Grey Concrete Jungle...Bleeding Red Mines...Colorful Garbage...Shady IFFI Scams...Kaleidoscopic Drugs P.S. The Flipside of CMs speech.Cheerful Alcoholics To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] Certificate of Goa's ruin by National Geographic
To Goanet - So now the National Geographic has included Goa in the top 10 worst destinations, with the remark that its environment and local culture have been overpowered. Breaking news, that! I guess for Goans my detailed photo documentation of the ruin wasn't enough. But a line written by a white guy sitting 5000 miles away will be lapped up as gospel. This raises another question - will Admin Noronha now blame the National Geographic photographers' telephoto lens? After all, according to Admin Noronha, all is fine in Goa, and we have been exaggerating things for our selfish ends. Or was the National Geographic panelist who issued this judgement secretly funded by Manohar Parrikar? I wonder. r
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[Goanet] Politics, lies and ignorance
Now a new definiton of terrorism is being created below. It is OK to bomb and cause mayhem to economic activities and that is not terror. So there was no 9/11. BC Some of the activities mentioned, if true, indicate to me that these characters were lawbreakers and violent extremists. They were different from the Naxalities, Maoists and terrorists because the activities stated indicate that, unlike the latter, the former characters did not murder, dismember, torture and rape anybody. They did not terrorize the population of Goa. I have no reason or basis to believe that the facts stated by Jose are false and fabricated.
Re: [Goanet] Slaughtering of animals - sacrifice.
On 19 November 2010 16:14, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.comwrote: What's wrong with halal meat? Does it taste bad? Or is it just culture-specific intolerance at work? What if someone said why a weekly holiday on Sunday, instead of say, Tuesday? FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490 RESPONSE: Here in the U.K. many consider the method of slaughter to be cruel. Animal welfare is not taken into consideration; I am surprised that you, who takes up every cause about animal welfare, are not aware of this. Check out the following:- Halal meat is being served in schools, hospitals and pubs - even though vets say Islamic slaughter is cruel Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328616/Halal-meat-served-schools-hospitals-pubs-Vets-say-Islamic-slaughter-cruel.html#ixzz15lxAjk92 -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Is Mr. Clean actually a Mr. Clerk?
Mr. Clean proved that he is actually Mr. Clerk. A sweet mango started giving decaying smell.. read more at: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Govt-readies-new-line-of-defence-fo r-PM-in-Supreme-Court/articleshow/6957305.cms NEW DELHI: The government looks set to forcefully rebut in the Supreme Court the charge that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh kept mum on Subramanian Swamy's petition seeking prosecution of former telecom minister A Raja. The petition, to be filed by a responsible officer, in keeping with the court's wish, will strongly argue that the PM did not sit on the petition. Every communication sent by Swamy, be it the complaint petition or the subsequent communications, received serious consideration of the highest authority and the files will speak for it, sources said. However, the affidavit will mark a shift from solicitor general Gopal Subramaniam's arguments in that it will stress Swamy's was a petition by an individual, based on newspaper clippings, and that the PM could not sanction prosecution while probe was on. It may also stress that Swamy kept on making additions to the petition. The government, however, may find it difficult to get around the SG's statement that every communication from Swamy had been adequately dealt with and that every letter from Swamy had been responded to. This assertion, it turns out, is not fully supported by facts and can turn into a chink in the government's armour on Tuesday when the bench of Justices G S Singhvi and A K Ganguly hears the matter. The government will attempt to pre-empt any adverse comment from the bench on the delayed response to Swamy - it went only on March 19, 2010 - by producing files that show that while government might not have been prompt in getting back to Swamy, the PMO wasted little time in acting on his petition. The officials were more than confident that the bench would agree that Swamy's allegation that the PM slept on his petition was baseless. The SC was told by the SG that as the CBI had registered an FIR, DoPT had responded to Swamy that his petition was premature.
Re: [Goanet] RIBANDAR CHURCH CASE CHARGE SHEET WAS F ILED WITH THEN CM RANE’S APPROVAL
Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com wrote: I do not understand head nor tail what jc is trying to convey. But one thing to me is glaring. That jc wants to impress that he knows Portuguese by exposing his ignorance of it. I have noticed this term having been used twice by jc in his posts, which is a literal translation of Konkani: “Disorder”. In Portuguese it is “disordeiro”. Dear Dr. Falcao, I accept that you are unable to understand head nor tail of what I was trying to convey. BTW, it is neither head nor tail - IF you are portending to write in appropriate English. I do not write in Portuguese .but I occasionally use Spanish and Konkani words when I write (mainly ) in English. BTW: I have two friends (a) a Ferdinando Monteiro in Lisbon (b) A Ferdinando Montero in LA. Get the drift? Now .(to use my spoken Konkani) why are you samko becoming pikar, men? jc
[Goanet] Launch of a book club in Goa
PRESS NOTE: Launch of a book club in Goa PANJIM, Nov 16: Goa-based alternative publishers Goa,1556 and the State's largest bookshop, Broadway Book Centre, are to jointly launch a new book club that will focus entirely on writing about Goa. It will meet on the third Thursday of each month, and the first meeting will be on Nov 18 at 5 pm at Broadway, on 18th June Road, Panjim. Books in any language can be discussed at The Third Thursday Goa Book Club, as long as related to Goa. Membership of the club is free. Authors, bibliophiles, book reviewers, readers and collectors of Goa books are specially welcome. Each participant will be requested to briefly share his or her experience of any Goa-related title, old or new. More details at http://ttt-goa.notlong.com or SMS 9822122436. Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Re: [Goanet] Slaughtering of animals - sacrifice.
One could also see it as not necessarily being intolerant. It may have to do with the symbolism attached to it -- knowing it is halal and the referent to Islam. In any case that is exactly what the meat sold by Muslim butchers would be if they are applying the same criteria in Goa. This part may have more meaning than I understand: we are dished up with halal meat, whether we like it or not. Many Super Marts are purveyors of the stuff. Are there no equivalent choices -- I mean cost wise. In fact that probably is not the issue, in which case is there a a paucity of non-halal meat? Purveyor is an interesting word in that in the past it was someone who supplied/made provisions for the sovereign. Guess in contemporaenity its what the Purveyors think helps expand their markets and bleeding hearts to believe they are doing the right thing. Halal is not just how an animal is slaughtered but that it is dedicated to God. The opposite is haram. Meat wise its also about not consuming blood (sorpotel), swine and includes ANYTHING not dedicated to God. Halal is also good economics to mean suggesting that non halal is bad. What could be bad is the nature of how the slaughtering takes place and whether the flesh of an animal killed/dying in an agitated manner is bad for us. Now the specialists could come in at this point and spell your thoughts and knowledge. Years ago, I was in Blacheath at a swank market, and bough some samosas, but not a person of color in sight. The UK has assimilated a lot of things and these are economic decisions perhaps aided by SAsian planners etc. For all one knows the Archbishop of Canterbury eats/is served halal meat. In NY we have Glatt Kosher, so Jewish people can have a Masala Dosa with Mol'logapudi etc., within their culinary framework. The Rabbi blesses the kitchen (not sure whether this is done daily), the ingredients etc.The owners are friends; are Gujarati and have a South Indian restaurant called Madras Mahal. Others restaurants now also have Glatt kosher attestation after seeing that business could be better for them too. If a Muslim does not know whether the meat is hahal, all that he has to do is invoke Allah and eat it -- Bismillah to be precise. In that sense he/she is dedicating it to God. Nothing else matters. But people will say no. no its not correct. They can of course choose not to eat it -- although they may say they are NOT EATING cause its not halal. This is the case with many things including ho we see our fellow men. But as with anything, it turns dogmatic and one may often be mislead in thinking one is doing the right thing and an excuse to throw ones religious puritanism around -- basically belt people around the head and shoulders. A fine extrapolated example is us Goans -- cultural minorities who often are more Indian than the majority. In many of our cases it is a strand worthy of patriotism as also a path to sorting oneself out, AND yet deep down ii is actually good for ones development -- formation in lived aesthetics if you will. venantius j pinto From: Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Slaughtering of animals - sacrifice. What's wrong with halal meat? Does it taste bad? Or is it just culture-specific intolerance at work? (DEL) FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490 COMMENT: Here in the U.K. , increasingly we are dished up with halal meat, whether we like it or not. Many Super Marts are purveyors of the stuff.
Re: [Goanet] Politics, lies and ignorance
--- On Fri, 11/19/10, Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Now a new definiton of terrorism is being created below. It is OK to bomb and cause mayhem to economic activities and that is not terror. So there was no 9/11. Bernado, Do you know that over 3000 innocent people were murdered on 9/11? Cheers, Santosh P.S. BTW, are you being terrorized by the communist Chinese government in Macau?
[Goanet] Daily Grook #850
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[Goanet] Politics, lies or Ignorance?
On Fri Nov 19 08:21:05 PST 2010Santosh Helekar chimbelcho at yahoo.com wrote: This statement is illogical. Mentioning Nascimento's name has no bearing on whether I am ignorant or not. The reason I referred to him is because of his ignorant prejudicial statement below in one of his latest Goanet posts: COMMENT: I was unaware that you were qualified in LOGIC also. This, for your info is what is called dragging someone into discussion. Santosh wrote: This statement is illogical and boorishly absurd. If you mentioned Saddam's human rights violations then you obviously dragged Saddam Hussein into this discussion. What kind of crazy English makes you believe otherwise? COMMENT : I was also not aware that you did not comprehend the English language very well. When someone opens a topic for discussion, the discussion does not start until someone else refutes his statement. My English will definitely sound “illogical and boorishly absurd” to a perceiver whose knowledge of English is of your superiority. And BTW, what was that you stated? :” What kind of crazy English makes you believe otherwise?” Santosh wrote: Some of the activities mentioned, if true, indicate to me that these characters were lawbreakers and violent extremists. They were different from the Naxalities, Maoists and terrorists because the activities stated indicate that, unlike the latter, the former characters did not murder, dismember, torture and rape anybody. They did not terrorize the population of Goa. I have no reason or basis to believe that the facts stated by Jose are false and fabricated. COMMENT: In the same post jc has asked, QUOTE : a: Who were the Policia who put down civil disturbances antes 1961? UNQUOTE. Do you know that the police personnel were Goans who were fired upon? Do you know the definition of a terrorist? Or you have your own Boorish dictionary. I can only conclude as I have said in my previous post. Do not compare your ignorance with that of other. Your ignorance is of much superior quality. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
Re: [Goanet] Slaughtering of animals - sacrifice.
Take a peek at this video from Nepal. It is rough. But at least read if you skip the video. Actually better off skipping the video. The point is how did people gather on the Baina without the Law and order knowing what was to happen. Was it of no consequence and interest to the police, panchayat, etc. Have the place been run over by...---whom?? http://observers.france24.com/en/content/20091127-west-hypocritical-protest-hindu-mass-animal-slaughter-nepal-gadhimai http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2009/nov/24/nepal-hinduism#/?picture=355997372index=0 venantius j pinto From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com Subject: [Goanet] Slaughtering of animals - sacrifice. Bulls slaughtered in open, Baina tense Tension prevailed at Baina beach yesterday after Vasco police arrested 35 persons for butchering animals and rescued as many as 26 bulls. Police said these animals were brought to Baina beach for slaughtering even as 87 animals were butchered there despite protests from residents, animal lovers and the representatives of People for Animals. The animals were brought to Baina beach in the morning as part of Bakri-Id celebrations, where animals were sacrificed. [GT] (DEL)
[Goanet] Could a vitamin deficiency be causing your diabetes?
http://www.healthiertalk.com/could-vitamin-deficiency-be-causing-your-diabetes-2107
[Goanet] NRP SAGRES UNMASKS THE DEGOANISATION AGENDA OF PRO-MAHARASHTRA AGENTS
Friends, The visit of 'NRP Sagres' was a blessing in disguise that helped link the jigsaw puzzle of a degoanisation agenda by pro-Maharshtra agents. For more read below. http://sotersgoa.blogspot.com/2010/11/nrp-sagres-unmasks-degoanisation-agenda.html
[Goanet] Once Upon A Time In Goa
Don't laugh, you are lucky if you haven't experienced this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKkryfdtMNQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKkryfdtMNQfeature=player_embedded feature=player_embedded Roland Francis Toronto 416-453-3371
[Goanet] How to make sense of nascimentation
In order to make sense of nascimentation one has to have the right state of mind called nascimentality. The easiest way to be temporarily in that state is to drink two large glasses of bootlegged cheap feni before reading the nascimented material. Cheers, Santosh P.S. Please see the following for meanings of words used above: www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Nascimentate www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Nascimentality --- On Fri, 11/19/10, Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Good Morning Santosh, It seems U have woken up after two weeks, with a 'confusion headache'. I thought Scientists and neuron surgeons would be able to prevent/ cure such happenings by themselves before submitting other people to undeserved misery from your name calling and mixing up, on topics. I know it is 'typical of you', but did not realise this malaise is so badly deep rooted in you! Get well soon please! We miss your SANE? advise on goanet! At least that is what you seem to think! Saiba Bogus! Nascimento Caldeira (continued below) --- On Thu, 18/11/10, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: Received: Thursday, 18 November, 2010, 7:38 AM Admin Noronha, Here are clarifications to your confusion: Nascimento: Why are U calling Frederick as Admin Noronha? H? Has he called you as 'neurotic' Silly' Santosh or something like that? NO! I would want an apology from you on this name calling, unconditionally, and now. Santosh: The 16th, 17th and 18th centuries are three of the five centuries that we were under Portuguese rule. I would like to know if there were any human rights violations in these cherry picked centuries. The names of people that I have cherry picked are recognised as individuals who participated in the Goan freedom movement, some of whom suffered imprisonment or loss of life as a consequence of their participation. Nascimento's response: There have been human rights violations not only in those cherry picked centuries. but before that too and continuing. I am sure U would love to know such human rights violations not only from colonial powers but also from local/national/ indigenous govt.s and authorities. Would you not? The Hindu Widows who are led to commit Sati, for one has been going on for centuries, and Santosh did not even shed a crocodile tear for these poor Hindu widows! Ha Hah! Then there are the casteless Hindus, the harijans , and dalits etc. who have been denied 'HUMAN RIGHTS and trampled upon by the Caste Hindus and Casteists, who thrive on the humiliation of these unfortunate people. Is it not true that U are a part of this high Caste Society! Shame on you, Santosh! These people were not even given ANIMAL RIGHTS leave alone human rights! Santosh: I would like to have answers to my questions, and in the process reduce my level of ignorance and that of other Goanetters such as you, Bernado, Nascimento and Ferdinando. Nascimento: Hope U now realise how Ignorant U are on and about Human Rights. Your 'level' of ignorance is so selective and deliberate, that it is at the level of the gutters! I say so! And U have the gall to take my name and Barnado's and Dr Ferdinand to your level of ignoramus! I had made no comment on Human rights; but only ventured to comment on FAKE FFs as undeserving on the topic Goan War Veterans'. U brought my name into this topic of human rights; that is why this is my response to you. I now want an Unconditional Apology to me, to Bernado, to FN and to Ferdinand from you, Santosh for trying to drag me (and us) down to your gutter level. NASCIMENTO CALDEIRA
[Goanet] 45% Goans alcoholics, AA statistics reveal
Perhaps the solution is to start educating children about the dangers of alcohol instead of the cool image that they perceive from drinking. In USA and many European countries, now cigarette cartoons are going to carry pictures of victims of smoking on the pack. Regards, GL -- soter IS LEGAL ALCOHOL A PROBLEM IN GOA? A study conducted by Caritas Goa in the early nineties had revealed that 45% of goan families have a problem with alcohol. Having a problem with alcohol in a family is as worse as having alcoholics. The AA report, according to some of us, has been too modest to claim that there are only 1 lakh alcoholics in Goa. For those of us who have worked in this field for several years and many others who have actually gone through the scourge of this disease, we could confidently reiterate the AA concerns that legal alcohol use or abuse is a threat to the social and political fabric of this State called Goa. Several of Goa's social and political problems originate from the very availability and consumption of this one substance called alcohol. So, let us stop denying and start accepting this fact.
[Goanet] RIBANDAR CHURCH CASE CHARGE SHEET WAS FILED WITH THEN CM RANE’S APPROVAL
ON Fri Nov 19 14:11:10 PST 2010 J. Colaco jc colaco1 at gmail.com wrote: I do not write in Portuguese .but I occasionally use Spanish and Konkani words when I write (mainly ) in English. BTW: I have two friends (a) a Ferdinando Monteiro in Lisbon (b) A Ferdinando Montero in LA. Get the drift? COMMENT: “Disorderos” the word jc is trying to defend for having used, is neither Spanish, nor Konkani and as I have stated not Portuguese either. May I know from where he got this term? Because I have heard it being used by people from AVC, : “Samko disorder”. Is it imported from there? Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
[Goanet] Targeting, smearing, falsification, fabrication, priviledged access... et al
On 19 November 2010 22:50, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: Admin Noronha, I am talking about abuse of journalistic privileges, not journalistic privilege. Isn't falsification or fabrication of facts, or smearing of people in newspaper articles or on news websites by a professional journalist who has privileged access to these publications, regarded as abuse of journalistic privileges? From an expert in all fields -- including the media -- like you, I'm learning quite a bit both from your style of debating and also your understanding of various issues. In the past, for instance, I learnt that an opinion or comment needs to be back by at least two independent sources. [http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg40819.html] One man's food [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GoenchimXapotam/message/16264] may well be another man's poison, but the attempt to discredit opinions and individuals should be seen for what it is. But then, some people are experts in all fields... even while they keep deriding others. From my understanding, falsification or fabrication of facts means holding an opinion that Santosh Helekar doesn't like or agree with. Smearing of people means critising someone Helekar likes or wouldn't like criticised. (Santosh only corrects illiteracy, it's the others who do all the smearing...) Privileged access to a publications applies to writings Helekar doesn't like or agree with, not hounding someone for years together and then suddenly wondering what happens when the quarry stays silent. Earlier you had taken on the role of correcting scientific illiteracy in parts of cyberspace. Now, you're indulging in a laudable experience in issuing certificates to writers and their opinions. At the end of the day, the issues you choose to take up and the individuals who decide to harangue for years together says more about you than anyone else. If you don't agree with someone, why attempt to discredit? FN PS: Also fascinated by your ability to use labels for people you disagree with. PPS: Since last-wordism isn't my game, I've had my say... Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
[Goanet] Dailymotion - Benny Goodman Memories - une vidéo Music
Bands of Yesteryear..Benny Goodman His Orchestra http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc5wkc_benny-goodman-memories_music
[Goanet] Playboy Opens Club in Macau
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-19/playboy-says-asia-licensing-revenue-may-double-this-year-on-china-spending.html My man please check it out and let us know the score. I have only been to Macau once on a stag do, from Hong Kong. It was Stanley Ho's Casino - that was mid 80's; now I beleive the Casinos are opulent? I believe he owns the Casino in Estoril, Portugal?. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
