[Goanet] GOA 50 - FROM ORDER TO DISORDER

[SOTER]

The DGP is making his case for the need of more men in the police force. This 
shows that Goa has slipped from a law abiding State to a lawless State. More 
the police means more is the irresponsibility of civil society. And while the 
Desh Premis may try to divert the attention to extinguish the Portuguese 
inlfuence, they will not be able to erase the memories of the law and order 
prior to liberation of Goa.  
Every Indian setting their foot into Goa ove rthe last 50 years has brought 
with them only chaos and tonnes of filth to make himself comfortable. Worse 
still, this is a reflection on the Goan who seems to be a part of this mess. 
Instead of entertaining ourselves with the Hazares and Hegdes, it is time to 
clean up our own shit accumulated in the backyard.  

-Soter

[Goanet] Flash - Carmen's email id hacked

[SOTER]

Guys, I got an e-mail claiming Carmen is stranded at Madrid and money must be 
transfered urgently. Looks like her e-mail id is hacked. Please note and inform 
carmen urgently.

-Soter

[Goanet] Off topic - Get married twice - on the same day but on separate dates

[Mervyn Lobo]

Folks,
Here is one way out for those who have  tough time remembering their 
anniversaries.
Mervyn1650Lobo
--

Samoa moves back to the future
APIA— The Associated Press

Samoa plans to leap 24 hours into the future, erasing a day and putting a
new kink in the Pacific's jagged international date line so that it can be on 
the same weekday as Australia, New Zealand and eastern Asia.


It'll be Back to the Future for the island nation, offsetting a decision it
made 119 years ago to stay behind a day and align itself with U.S. 
traders based in California.


That has meant that when it's dawn Sunday in Samoa, it's already dawn 
Monday in adjacent Tonga and shortly before dawn Monday in nearby New 
Zealand, Australia and increasingly prominent eastern Asia trade partners 
such as China.



Samoa has found its interests lying more with the Asia-Pacific region and 
now wants to switch back to the west side of the line, which separates one 
calendar day from the next and runs roughly north-to-south through the middle 
of the Pacific Ocean.



“In doing business with New Zealand and Australia, we're losing out on two 
working days a week,” Prime Minister Tuilaepa Sailele Malielegaoi said in a 
statement. “While it's Friday here, it's Saturday in New Zealand and when 
we're at church on Sunday, they're already conducting business in Sydney 
and Brisbane.”

Samoa's change will have a cost: The Polynesian nation has long marketed 
itself as the last place on Earth to see each day's sunset.

“It will be really confusing for us. I just don't see the point, and we don't 
know the benefits yet,” multimedia company official Laufa Lesa, 30, said in an 
interview from the Samoan capital Apia. “The government says it's good for 
the economy, but it's totally fine the way it is now,” he said.

The Prime Minister already has a new tourism angle: You can easily celebrate 
the same day twice, because the next-door U.S. territory of American Samoa 
will stay on the California side of the date line and remain one day behind.


“You can have two birthdays, two weddings and two wedding anniversaries 
on the same date – on separate days – in less than an hour's flight across 
[the ocean], without leaving the Samoan chain,” Mr. Tuilaepa said.

Mr. Tuilaepa has proposed leaping forward by scratching this year's 
Dec. 31 from the calendar and holding New Year's celebrations one night 
early, though the date hasn't been confirmed.

Re: [Goanet] John Paul II - Blessed or Cursed?

[Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão]

Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain, and most fools do.

Do not judge others, lest you be judged the same way.

Unless you are in the other person’s shoes, you will not understand his woes.

If you know the teachings of Christ, you will find the answer. 

I will not “cast my pearls at swines, because they will trample the
pearls and turn to attack you”

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7&version=NLT




Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. 
 

  

Re: [Goanet] Subject: Konkani ulloi, Konkani boroi

[Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão]

On Tue, 10 May 2011 02:37:46 -0700, adrianconsultant wrote
:<<< Am i shocked? and are these the only words that naturally come in
your konkani? Am not a fan of marathi.will never be..but as for Bernado
Colaco looks like the only thing worth writing in here in konkani is
"Chont Alloi". Shocked also at the moderators of this forum who
didn't sensor this postwith such graphic words….>>>

 

COMMENT : “Sensor” is dependent on calibration and power supply.

To prevent being “shocked” use an earthing. 




Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.

  

[Goanet] Goa news for May 11, 2011

[Goanet News Service]

Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Goa police's special marine commandos' 'force' exposed -
Times of India
from Betim jetty to the captain of ports jetty in the presence
of home minister ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNHMKGCG3VHgzOCjh4bVbQsRtGrYKw&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-polices-special-marine-commandos-force-exposed/articleshow/8191334.cms

*** Goa cannot escape drug menace: Bassi - IBNLive.com
NLive.comPTI 
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNE18d4mke4n3teGh8AKbrc1paDDNQ&url=http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/goa-cannot-escape-drug-menace-bassi/679042.html

*** Asbestos threat to Goa basilica's heritage status - Daily
News & Analysis
ily News & AnalysisBy M Raghuram 
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFatma03br7D8s4HMVcMsLiGA7EBQ&url=http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/report_asbestos-threat-to-goa-basilicas-heritage-status_1541462

*** Goa''s draft land acquisition policy seeks better
compensation - IBNLive.com
NLive.comPTI 
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEqX5g65jZV_dMHeWFq4bu43BjH4w&url=http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/goas-draft-land-acquisition-policy-seeks-better-compensation/677762.html

*** Sr cops ask CID to lodge case against Deshprabhu, others -
Times of India
orruption bureau (ACB) to either jointly or separately register
the case. The JMFC gave the police 24 hours on ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFVRbk_Sof_YskN0RwHn0uIxgEVOw&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Sr-cops-ask-CID-to-lodge-case-against-Deshprabhu-others/articleshow/8211102.cms

*** Forgery: Bar council suspends Kawachale - Indian Express
LB%E2%80%99s-act-over.html">Munnabhai LLB's act over
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEvyp0d2Dn3xgZPLvLma5p86D38Lg&url=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/forgery-bar-council-suspends-kawachale/788710/

*** Force India Academy Hunt's Goa regional round ends - Times
of India
mes of IndiaPTI 
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEiK5ATwJdp58sghnD5xHg0QAqDbQ&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/more-sports/racing/Force-India-Academy-Hunts-Goa-regional-round-ends/articleshow/8209580.cms

*** Goa government to set up 'Goa Haat' in Panaji -
TravelBizMonitor
avelBizMonitorBy TBM Staff 
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEIcZICfxyrkJXRTstMbc5dW-k5yA&url=http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/goa-government-to-set-up-goa-haat-in-panaji-13354

*** Goa to seek French expertise to boost tourism - Times of
India
ourism and other neglected areas having potential for tourist
attraction with a view to bring about uniform development of
Goa. Speaking at the concluding session ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEL_OWaLSrvwu20Vtyg2I3fHmnCxQ&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-to-seek-French-expertise-to-boost-tourism/articleshow/8211068.cms

*** SpeakOut: Lack Of Spectators At Top Division Matches In Goa
Raises Doubts On ... - Goal.com India
razy' tag... By Patterson Fernandes Besides the stereotypical
sun, sea and sand, ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEGHrUSmbEoslWgI64BEh8He6Eogw&url=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/2292/editorials/2011/05/10/2479932/speakout-lack-of-spectators-at-top-division-matches-in-goa


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php

[Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: hairann, hambog, hamlett, harcor ...

[Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

Learn one (or more) Konkani word today:

HAIRANN perturbation, weariness

HAIRANN ZAUNC to be much troubled

HAMBOG deceit

HAMBOGUI MUNIS cheat, rascal

HAMLETT omlette

HARCOR obstacle, impediment

[Source: Konkani-English Pocket Dictionary/Concanim-Inglez Dicionar.
First published in 1930. Republished in 1991 and 1999 by the Asian
Educational Services, Rs 195 in India.]

FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
#784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org

[Goanet] Bollywood’s past vanishes as studio turns to dust

[Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

Bollywood’s past vanishes as studio turns to dust
http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/08/bollywoods-past-vanishes-as-studio-turns-to-dust.html

FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
#784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
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[Goanet] GOA OBIT: Audrey Dias Almeida (Porvorim), Fr Anil Soares, SJ

[Marshall Mendonza]

RECENT DEATHS: Fr Anil Soares sj, former principal of St Britto's Mapusa,
and popular educationist. Son of Aloysius
Soares, educator, Aldona

Comment:
I understand that Fr Anil Soares was the son of Edward Soares of St Thomas
School, Aldona and not Prof Aloysius Soares. He was an ex-student and
Principal of St Vincent's High School, Poona. His brother Raymond Soares is
a partner in Poona Drug Stores on Main Street (M G Road) one of the oldest
and respected establishments in the camp area.

Fr Anil Soares suffered his first and a major heart attack when he was the
Principal of St Vincents and came under enormous stress keeping at bay the
various politicians. Though he was relieved of administrative duties after
that, he was never quite the same. That heart attack took a huge toll of
him.

I extend my condolences to his family members.

Regards,

Marshall

[Goanet] "Konkani" before 1961

[Marshall Mendonza]

Prof Sebastian Borges:

Therefore only Konkani schools should qualify for grants; I understand that
this is the custom that prevails in the rest of India.



Response:

In Maharashtra even English medium schools get government grants. However,
some years back, the government stopped giving grants to new English medium
schools due to funds crunch. Its logic being that only the well off send
their children to English medium schools. On the contrary, maidservants,
peons, vegetable vendors, and others from the lower income groups have
started to send their children to English medium schools, even paying the
high fees. As a result, a number of vernacular schools have either converted
to English medium to cope up with the heavy demand or simply shut down.



Regards,



Marshall

[Goanet] KANDHAMAL UPDATE - 8 MAY 2011

[Marshall Mendonza]

KANDHAMAL UPDATE - 8 MAY 2011

JUSTICE STILL ELUDES THE CHRISTIAN VICTIMS, AND MANY ARE TO BLAME FOR IT

JOHN DAYAL

There has been just one conviction for murder in 20 cases of the brutal
killing of Christians of Kandhamal, Orissa, at the hands of Hindutva
fanatics, and mobs led by them, during August--October 2008. More than two
years and 9 months later the course of justice in the two special Fast Track
Courts continues to be a travesty – with aberrations at all stages, from the
presentation of the production case and examination of witnesses, to the
coercive presence of Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh goons in the court
premises, often in the court room, and the role of both judges and defence
lawyers.

Lawyers for the victims have no role in court other than occasionally feebly
protesting to the judges – in vain – those relatives and other eye witnesses
who deposed they saw the men and women being killed are being threatened
blatantly. The response of the judges has been, “we have sent the orders to
the police.” The police have no response at all. The single biggest
beneficiary of the miscarriage of justice has been Mr. Manoj Pradhan, the
local Member of the State Legislature and a leader of the Bharatiya Janata
party which was then a coalition partner in the government of Chief Minister
Mr. Naveen Pattnaik. Mr. Pradhan is accused in over half a dozen cases, and
is currently free on bail.

Investigation no doubt has been tardy and superficial – one junior gazetted
officer and two inspectors head the small team trying to probe the vast
number of cases with primitive forensic equipment and almost no training in
probing cases of mass violence. No attempt was made to use video and mobile
phone camera images that are widely available both with the victims and with
the accused. In some cases, the two Fast Track Court judges have indeed
passed strictures against the police investigation, and in most cases, they
have found the testimony of witnesses --- victims and their relatives –
either not trustworthy or insufficient to prove the offence against the
accused, a review of the judgments shows.

There has been no attempt by the Directorate of Prosecutions or by the
police to upgrade cases where victims died of their injuries not on the
spot, but in hospital, refugee camps or other places. Under Indian legal
practice, cases of attempted murder or murderous assault would automatically
be upgraded to murder if the victim died of his injuries. This has prevented
a large number of cases from being recorded as murder.

It may be recalled that the violence which began 24th August 2008 took a
heavy toll. Over 14 of the 30 districts in the state were impacted. 6,000
houses were burnt in 400 villages, including 296 churches and smaller places
of Christian worship. Over 56,000 became internally displaced persons, about
30,000 living from three months to a year in government refugee camps. Over
20,000 men, women and children spent days hiding in forests. Over 10,000 are
yet to return home. About 1,000 have been warned or threatened by their
neighbours they can return home if they become Hindus. Some are living in
what can be called “Christian ghettos”, one of which is on land provide by
the district authorities who find themselves impotent in rehabilitating the
Christians in their villages. The rest have left Kandhamal in fear, or in
search of jobs, as they do not have any livelihood now in Kandhamal where
they also face an economic blockade.]

Cutting through the fog created around the legal data, the following is the
current situation of the criminal investigation of cases of arson and
murder, abduction and violence. Complaints were made at the local police
posts, at the regional police stations, and often directly to the offices of
the Superintendent of Police in the district capital of Phulbani by
registered post. In some cases, complaints were sent to the Director General
of Police in Bhubaneswar when the Police stations returned complaints sent
by registered post.

3,232 criminal complaints were filed when the dust settled on the Second
Phase violence that began on 24th August 2008 and after peaking by about 30
August, continued sporadically through most of September and October that
year.

1541 complaints are acknowledged by the Kandhamal district police, but they
did not file them as the First Information Reports required under Indian
Criminal law.

828 complaints were actually converted to First Information Reports [FIRs}
which mark the beginning of further investigation and the case being brought
before a court for trial after a charge-sheet is filed.

327 Cases have actually seen a completion of the investigation process with
the cases committed to the two Fast Track Courts headed by two ad hoc
Additional District Judges for day to day hearings.

169 Cases have seen the acquittal of all accused,

86 cases have ended up in convictions -- not for the heinous crimes
mentioned in the FIRs as the main ones, but for com

[Goanet] July 2, Fun evening cruise - "GOAN ROCKIN TO BOLLYWOOD ON THE BAY"

[George Pinto]

You are cordially invited to the fun "GOAN ROCKIN TO BOLLYWOOD ON THE BAY" 
cruise on July 2, Saturday, San Francisco, California, Fisherman's Wharf, Pier 
43.5, from 6:15-9:15pm. Net proceeds to benefit Goa Sudharop. Please buy your 
tickets now.

Join many others for an unforgettable evening. Ticket prices includes cruise, 
soft-drinks/juices, dinner (very nice Indian buffet), DJ dancing. All welcome. 
No-host cash bar (alcohol) available.

Date:   Saturday, July 2, 2011
Cruise Company: Red & White Fleet, Pier 43.5
Name of Vessel: Harbor Queen/Princess
Boarding6:15-6:30pm
Sailing in calm waters  6:30-9:00pm
Disembarkation at Pier 43.5 9:00-9:15pm

Ticket price:
Ages 23+:  $75
Ages 6-23: $55
Under 5:   Free

Please note if you have registered for the San Francisco Goan Convention from 
July 2-4, the cruise is included in the registration and you do not need to 
separately register for the cruise. The above prices are cruise only. Tickets 
sold first come, first serve basis.

You can pay on the Goa Sudharop website at www.goasudharop.org and click on the 
"Click here to DONATE" button (PAYPAL) or you can mail a check payable to "GOA 
SUDHAROP" and mail to our Treasurer, Acaria Almeida at:

   ACARIA ALMEIDA
   P.O. Box 6144
   MORAGA, CALIFORNIA, 94570, USA
   Phone: 925-324-0513
   Email: acariaalme...@yahoo.com

Please pass this email on to your friends and family. Please mark your
calendars.

Thank you.

Goa Sudharop
www.goasudharop.org

[Goanet] Doha Goans Sports Club, Doha make donation for The National Association for the Blind, Goa State Branch

[Doha Goans Sports Club]

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?created&¬e_id=182813935101403
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.182813101768153.44466.11183945879
http://goansinqatar.blogspot.com/2011/05/doha-goans-sports-club-doha-make.html


Doha Goans Sports Club, Doha make donation for The National
Association for the Blind, Goa State Branch

Doha Goans Sports Club, Doha has made a donation of Rs.75,000/- for
The National Association for the Blind, Goa State Branch yesterday.
Rozendo Mendonca (Director Of Association for the Blind) Santa Cruz
Goa. Mauricio Pereira (PRO and Director of Cultural & Social affairs)
DGSC  and Alexio Reginaldo Lourenco (MLA Curtorim) were presetn on the
ocassion.


Text of the letter handed over Doha Goans Sports Club, Doha representative
We are grateful to the Doha Goans Sports Club, Doha, for their
generous contribution of Rs.75,000/- vide Cheque No. 781182 dated
9/5/2011. (A  scanned copy of the cheque is attached.)
The National Association for the Blind, Goa State Branch, affiliated
to the National Association for the Blind, India, was established in
1983.
The main activity of NAB is to cater to all the needs of the Visually
Impaired persons in the State of Goa.. Following are the activities:
 1. Education
 2. Vocational Training
 3. Computers
 4. Mobility
5. Learning of Braille
6. Music
 7. Arts & Culture
8. Dance
9. Employment of Adult Blind
10. Rehabilitation of the Blind
We attach herewith a write up of the National Association for the
Blind, Goa State Branch.
 Warm Regards
Rozendo Mendonsa
President – NAB Goa State Branch

More details at -- ad...@nabgoa.org

[Goanet] Films and civil society standing up against the

[Marshall Mendonza]

Selma Carvalho:
When we chip away at free speech, we undermine the very fundamentals of
democracy.

Response:
1. Freedom of speech or expression is not absolute in any democracy or civil
society. It is tempered with a sense of responsibility.
2. Freedom to dissent is as important as freedom of speech.
3. Peaceful and civilised ways of protest are acceptable and as important in
a democracy.
4. there is a thin dividing line between what is acceptable and what is not.
One has always to walk the tight rope on sensitive issues.
5. under the guise of free speech, spreading hate or preaching violence or
maligning any person or religion or community is never accepted in any
mature society.
6. Freedom and duty are two sides of the coin. One cannot exist without the
other.

regards,

Marshall

[Goanet] Panjim TT/ Badminton Club felicitate Shri B.S. Bassi

[Sandeep Heble]

For his immense contributions towards Sports in Goa particularly
Badminton and Table Tennis, Shri B.S. Bassi, Director General of
Police, was felicitated at the hands of Mr. Richard De
Souza(President, Goa Badminton Association), in the presence of Former
State Table Tennis  Champion Ajit Ghantker, Chetan Kavlekar(Secretary,
Goa Archery Association), Sandeep Heble(Secretary Panjim TT Club) and
Hilary Fernandes(PRO, Panjim Badminton Club).

The felicitation function was organized by Goa Badminton Association
and Panjim Table Tennis Club, in association with the Sports Authority
of Goa. Certificates and Prizes of the Table Tennis and Badminton
Coaching Camps that were conducted earlier were then distributed by
Shri Bassi along with the other dignitaries. NIS Coaches Irwin Cordo
and Govind Navelkar and Assistant Coach Noel Estebeiro who conducted
the camps were present on the occasion.

Felicitation photograph available at:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2463061&l=b0dc2d00a6&id=1187066172

yours sincerely
Sandeep Heble
9326129171

[Goanet] : No dention up to Std VIII

[Nelson Lopes]

No detention in schools
Presently there is no detention up to std IV and nobody has complained
thus far Then from Std V onwards there exists a system of grace marks
and internal assessment, which enables a student to progress up to std
IX very conveniently Even at the public board exams, the process of
granting grace marks is in vogue to the advantage of students.The
recent ATKT  circular permits students at the board exams failing in
two subjects.Volumes have written about comprehensive evaluation and
the need to reform Examination system The value of the teacher is
dependent upon his results at all costs No marks are allotted to the
teacher for putting a lot of time developing skills of students The
students too are measured on the degree of marks obtained. The system
of examination dominated teaching and learning only produces stereo
type products, which does not emphasize , applications, intellectual
thinking etc.Many a times a child may be detained for a few marks or
failure in one subject or not meeting attendance clause.It leads to
drop outs and subsequently misfits in the society There is no love for
teaching and learning for fear of meeting examination deadlines All
the time the ghost of examination haunts everyone including worked up
parents The development of multifaceted talents of the child are
ignored The subject of failure may eventually has nothing to do with
the actual living of the child in future.The process of learning and
teaching best flourishes in a happy medium and it is this that is
expected to fill  the vacuum When the child continues in the school
for those years, there is incidental growth in many aspects of the
child development Failures at the young stage also leads to stigma,
self devaluation and sows seeds of suicides. The content is also to be
made attractive to all,. Presently the parents are over concerned with
the performance, pushing them to coaching classes and depriving them
of other co-curricular activities. in which the children enjoy
spontaneously The system of tuitions may suffer The Teacher will have
freedom to experiment and to devote more time towards the weaker
students The new concept will take time to sink from old idea of exam
ridden thought There are no statics of benefits of  child leaving
school due to inconsequential failures at times The schools at times,
in the past failed to apply the rules of promotion setting their own
standards Many a stalwarts like Humphrey Davy, Thomas ,Alva Edison,
Bill Gates among others have contributed without being a part of
general, formal educational schooling system The automatic promotion
provides a challenge to the teacher to be creative and to earn the
respect and admiration of the taught Any new change is always looked
upon with skepticism and apprehension Without detention learning
process should take place in conducive happy environment It is there
fore a challenge to all concerned about real growth and development.
Th pressures on teacher , the head, students, parents and Directorate
of Education will greatly be reduced to be more productive, creative
and original It all depends on motivation and belief in oneself to
deliver without expectations and judged on wrong parameters
Nelson Lopes Chinchinim 9850926276

[Goanet] Latin jazz from Goa!

[Jazz Goa]

Pianist Joshua Costa is one of Goa's amazing young jazz giants. Checkout his 
latin-jazz composition 'Samba de Goa' over here:
http://www.soundclick.com/joshuacosta

[Goanet] i

[Albert Desouza]

Our religion itself is a curse. While God became man and was born to a human 
being the church formed with pope as the head distorted the religion to such an 
extent that today the so called catholics are blind believers and what they 
believe is what the priests tells them. Wrong religion has embedded into our 
blood streams. today Mary has become a focus of our religion and she has been 
raised to the sky. see how people rush to Valankani, Mount Mary Shivaji nagar 
bangalore and see how they shout the chimes of Mary take us to heaven. Today we 
are indulged in paganism and human beings can decide which priest or which nun 
can be termed as saint. Today the Goa church wants Fr. Jose vaz and are making 
so much of noise and madness. Our religion is just a simple one line religion. 
" Love God and Love your neighbour. " this is far from reality when it comes to 
catholic religion. Money collected for charity is abused. No account is given 
to what is done with our money. Churches are renovated and converted into 
palaces and the poor laity is made to pay with no money coming from the 
bishop's house. The poor are still poor and the rich can live as they want. 
There is no honesty among the clergy. There is no truth with the clergy. They 
livwith two types of personalities. They except the laity to pardon them so why 
we need confessions ? Can our catholic religion save us ? albert 
> 
> (b) Roland Francis (after 'misquoting me in jest')  wrote: For the
> record, JC meant he supported JP II's beatification but that other
> candidates are EQUALLY deserving.
> 
> 
> COMMENT:
> 
> 1: I do not believe that anybody ridiculed either Catholicism or the
> Pope - in this thread. Criticism is not the same as ridicule.
> Criticism, however difficult to face, is always beneficial. Many
> progressive actions have resulted from criticism.
> 
> 2: "Atheists, non-church-goers and those who are just plain negative"
> do not need fuel to be hyper-critical of the church or anything else.
> They have in-built (possibly) GAS batteries which do not need external
> recharging.
> 
> 3: Roland Francis has mis-represented my position. I did not use the
> word "EQUALLY" in my previous post. To have done that, I would have
> had to evaluate the candidature of the other nominees. I have not done
> so.
> 
> I'd say this (possibly again): Anytime one finds an obsessive and
> unreasonably virulent antagonism against (say) the Church, a
> particular priest or (as the case may be) Portugal or India, Try ask
> this question - even to one's own self: WHY is this person this
> obsessively virulent? Is there an antecedant issue (precursor) to this
> obsession? Did the person miss out on any personal benefit?
> 
> practical examples: IF he was incarcerated by the Portuguese, was it
> because he was a conscientious objector or was it because he was a
> dacoit or a dangerous vandal ? If it is the case of an ex-priest, was
> it because he felt that the vows were too onerous or was it because he
> did not get his way to the top? If a specific priest is being
> targeted, was it because the priest was plain wrong or was it because
> the priest did not give a 'financial contract' to the friend?
> 
> If the person claims to be an atheist, that is what he/she is. What
> makes his anti-religion tirade suspect is IF he selectively and
> obsessively slams a particular religion, and yet attends 'church
> services' (say) for 'social reasons'.
> 
> I believe that it is a personal right to be whatever one wants to
> be.as long as one allows others their right to be what they want
> to be and do (provided, of course, that NO ONE ELSE is physically or
> otherwise endangered or harmed in the process).
> 
> jc
  

[Goanet] Bin Laden had Pakistan ‘complicity’: Key US senator

[Gabe Menezes]

Excerpt:-

While Pakistan has denied knowingly allowing the world’s most hunted man to
live in relative luxury, “I just don’t believe it,” said Feinstein, who
stressed “that level of complicity is really a problem.” Feinstein charged
that Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) have been “essentially
favoring the Haqqani network, which attacks our troops in Afghanistan,”
while denying US forces access to their bases in remote North Waziristan.

“You have them not turning over both the inspirational head and the
operational head of LeT, following the Mumbai bombing, to India,” she said,
referring Lashkar-e-Taiba.

“Now you have this,” she said, referring to bin Laden.

Full read @ http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/10/bin-laden-had-pakistan-
‘complicity’-key-us-senator.html

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

Re: [Goanet] John Paul II - Blessed or Cursed?

[Albert Desouza]

Dear GoanettersDid God really make saints and give power to the church to 
cannonise humans as saints then why only foreigner becomes saints ? albert 

> From: roland.fran...@gmail.com
> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 09:39:11 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] John Paul II - Blessed or Cursed?
> 
> In a hypothetical situation in which my critics found themselves closely
> related to one of the thousands of boys abused and molested by a deviant
> priest, here is what they would have said, based on their posts:
> 
> R Fernandes of Gulf International Promotions: "All I am saying is that we
> should not ridicule our religion (for beatifying someone who protected the
> abuser). 
> My comment: For the record I did not abuse any religion - I just bemoaned
> the action of beatifying JP II on account of his cover-up.
> 
> Elvino Rodrigues: "People who are criticizing the protectors of the abuse
> are all former Catholics who have converted to another sect. Let us ignore
> them.
> 
> Joseph Fernandes: Saul of Tarsus (later St Paul) was also a great sinner.
> Who knows whether he may have also committed such a heinous crime against
> young men. But remember he was canonized. So why not John Paul II.
> 
> Lino Dourado: Let us not look at the negative side of the situation. The
> priest in question is a great educator and is responsible for my young
> relative getting a first class in the SSC. So what if he abused him?
> 
> And the cake goes to our Goanet Socrates Dr JC who in his paragraph (f) made
> the following famous comment: "There are many others in need of attention".
> Words taken probably from the very mouth of the Cardinal in the Times
> article who is reported to have abused 2000 boys and who must have said
> those words after abusing the first 1000 boys, finding he had 1000 more to
> "pay attention to"
> 
> OK JC before you fly off the handle I have in jest misquoted you. But only
> because it is appropriate. 
> For the record, JC meant he supported JP II's beatification but that other
> candidates are equally deserving
> 
> Roland
> Toronto.
>  
> 
> R Fernandes wrote:
> All I am saying is that we should NOT ridicule our Religion or The head of
> our Religion on a public forum. It will only provide fuel for the Atheists,
> non-church-goers and those who are just plain negative. Your paragraph G is
> very much true and says it all.
> 
> JC wrote:
> f: On the basis of what I know of John Paul II's life, I applaud his
> Beatification. Having noted that, I'd say that there are many others
> in need of attention.
> 
> 
  

[Goanet] Know the reptile King!

[Gabe Menezes]

 Know the reptile King!
 Published on: May 10, 2011 - 00:54

More in:

   - iEXPLORE




Are you one of those who get fascinated with the king of the reptiles—King
Cobra than May 22 is your day.

Herpactive, a group that is dedicated to promote the science of field
herpetology by conducting walks, surveys, training workshops and field
technique sessions for budding herp-enthusiasts is organising a one day trip
to know more about the King Cobra in Goa.
“The target species— King Cobra (Ophiophagus hannah) Known as the longest
venomous snake in the world, the King Cobra (Ophiophagus hannah) is a
flagship species of the Western Ghats of India. Growing up to an average of
14 ft in Goa’s forests King Cobras are distributed in wet deciduous,
riparian and evergreen forest types. The King feeds on other snakes and also
is one of the only snakes that build its nest for laying and hatching its
eggs” says herpetologist, Nirmal Kulkarni who is conducting this trip.
The Herpactive group will embark on a 12 hour journey on May 12 through some
of Goa’s best King Cobra habitats, meet snake rescuers who have rescued
Kings and interact with field researchers and forest department staff whose
field work on these majestic snakes has helped document baseline data in the
state of Goa. Thus, they will be moving from one wildlife sanctuary to
another of Goa.
“Although uncommon throughout its range, we will attempt a survey for
preferred habitat of this snake and learn and understand about its
charismatic behaviour. This journey will take us through some of Goa’s
exquisite herp rich forest eco systems and help to understand the unique
habitats that this majestic snake favours” confirms Nirmal.
Field identification of other Herpetofauna, photography tips and discussion
of natural history will also be a part of this programme.
Participants will also get to use field equipment, learn basic observation
skills and work alongside qualified herpetologists in the field. This one
day trip will give an opportunity to understand and learn the science behind
reptile conservation.
This excursion is open for those who are interested in this target species
and who are in the age group of 15-55 years.
For details or confirmation contact on 09822586918 or email on
ophidian_nir...@yahoo.co.in.
http://www.navhindtimes.in/iexplore/know-reptile-king

COMMENT: Very good to know that Goa has a thriving King Cobra population.

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] Konkani Word A Day:

[Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

Learn one (or more) Konkani word today:

SOMBRAN f. ostentation, pomp

SOMBRUT rich, fertile

SOMBRUTCAI f richness, fertility

SOMADAN n ease, tranquility, quietness

SOMJIC intelligent, prudent

SOMJICAI f prudence, intelligence

SOMOI-PORMONNEM according to time; somoia pormonnem cholonc zai, it is
necessary to accomodate with the circumstances.

[Source: Konkani-English Pocket Dictionary/Concanim-Inglez Dicionar.
First published in 1930. Republished in 1991 and 1999 by the Asian
Educational Services, Rs 195 in India.]

FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
#784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org

[Goanet] Subject: Konkani ulloi, Konkani boroi

[adrianconsultant]

Am i shocked? and are these the only words that naturally come in your 
konkani?


Am not a fan of marathi.will never be..but as for Bernado Colaco 
looks like the only thing worth writing in here in konkani is "Chont 
Alloi".


Shocked also at the moderators of this forum who didn't sensor this 
postwith such graphic words.


By the way Bernado...if you want konkani to teach "such" words in "your" 
konkani school..looks like thats why you are educated with such level of 
decency so far only to use such crap of a languagethat you couldnt write 
anything decent in response.


Remember crude responses.show your backgroundas a cheap low life 
yellow livered SOB who has disintegrated the love for konkani & in the name 
of konkanitries to make a name for yourself.


Pal I responded in english. Let me see if you got the guts or the balls to 
write a few words in response in "PURE RICH KONKANI"and that to 
WITHOUT any slang.


otherwise .with the millions of millions in Goa as my friend the ROCK 
says "SHUT YOUR MOUTH" and as you say "chont alloit rao"


.or it could be an all out war here where the marathi manus...may say to 
you "Tuja Aaii La"

Re: [Goanet] Now 'Carmen Miranda' stranded in Spain..

[Gabe Menezes]

On 10 May 2011 08:40, JoeGoaUk  wrote:

> Looks like another Email Id hacked
>
> quote:
>
> From:
> "Carmen Miranda" 
> View contact details
> To: undisclosed-recipients
>
> My sincere regrets for this sudden request, things actually got out of
> control on my
>  trip to Madrid,Spain .
> I was mugged,all my belongings including cellphone and credit card were all
> stolen
> at gun point. I need your help flying back home.
> Am Cash Strapped at the moment. I've made contact with my bank but the best
> they could do was to send me a new card in the mail which
> will take 2-4 working days to arrive here. I need you to lend me some Money
> to sort
>  my self out of this predicament,
>  i will pay back once i make it out of Madrid.
> Western Union or MoneyGram is the fastest option to wire funds to me.
>  Let me know if you need my details(Full names/location) to effect
> atransfer.
> You can reach me via email or hotel's desk phone and the number is,+34 91
> 608943641.
>
> Best,
> Carmen
>


COMMENT: How does this happen? only when one is using an internet cafe or
duped into giving out passwords? At least Gmail gives the following warning

*Warning: The content of this message is suspicious.* The sender's account
may be compromised. Beware of following links or of providing the sender
with any personal information.Ignore, I trust this message  Learn
more


-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

Re: [Goanet] Diabetes

[Santosh Helekar]

Did Gilbert and Fr. Ivo go to the same medical school to obtain their 
scientific and medical literacy? Did Gilbert also find people with cancer due 
to the use of microwave in Germany? If so, Harvard Medical School physicians 
must not be as literate as either of them because the Harvard website does not 
warn us about such cancer. 

Please note that genuine medical sources point out that use of microwaves 
anywhere does NOT cause cancer. Please see the following cancer research 
website for instance:

http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/about-cancer/cancer-questions/radiation-microwaves-and-cancer

Please also note that the Grinning Planet website that Gilbert provided below 
is not a scientific or medical website.

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Mon, 5/9/11, icso...@bsnl.in  wrote:
>
>I am in the medical field for decades. It is
> good that we agree with each other and with the scientific
> research. Scientific and medical illiteracy will always be a
> problem in this Forum. That is not our problem!
>  
> << problem (see link); in addition to waste-disposal of the
> container.
>  
> http://www.grinningplanet.com/2008/04-08/foam-cups-polystyrene-cups-article.htm
>  
> The following is a link to your question about using the
> microwave and some of the commonly used containers to
> prepare/warm the food:
>  
> http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/update0706a.shtml
>  **That is what we read in the scientific reviews and
> medical links.
> I found in Germany people with cancer due to the use of
> microwave.
> 
> 

[Goanet] Women allege being duped by Albanian firm

[Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

Women allege being duped by Albanian firm

IANS/Thiruvananthapuram

Twenty Indian women working in Albania have sought help from the
government, alleging that they were duped by their employer and dumped
in a dark room without food and water after they asked for their
promised salaries.
Santhosh Jose, husband of P R Raji, one of the women in distress, has
approached Kerala’s opposition leader Oommen Chandy seeking the
intervention of federal Minister for Overseas Indian Affairs Vayalar
Ravi and Minister of State for External Affairs E Ahmed.
Speaking by phone from Berat in Albania, a weeping Raji, 28, pleaded
for the intervention of the Indian authorities for their safe return.
“At the interview we were promised a minimum salary of $200 plus
overtime for making bags. After reaching here we found out that we
have been cheated,” she alleged.
Raji, a native of Alappuzha district, added: “We have nine-hour shifts
and except for a short lunch break, the rest of the time we stand and
work. We will get our promised salary only if we achieve the target of
7,100 bags a day.
“All we can make is only 2,500 bags for which they pay just $2 a day.
This works out to just around Rs2,400 a month. We have been cheated by
the agent.”
She said they were selected by an agent from Goa on a contract with
Centre Shqiptare Company, a bag manufacturing firm in Berat, Albania.
They reached Albania on April 19.
The group of 20 workers includes eight from Goa, five from Kerala and
the rest from Mumbai and Chennai.
Florin Fernandez, 30, from Goa, another woman in the group, said they
hope the Indian authorities would come to their help.
“We have been told by our employer that by tomorrow 1pm we will be
evicted from our room. We fear we could even land in police custody
because we were made to sign some papers,” she said.
“Our work permit cards have been taken away by the company. We have
been suffering physically and mentally,” Fernandez added.

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=433387&version=1&template_id=40&parent_id=22

[Link spotted via Goanvoice.org.uk]

FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
#784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
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[Goanet] Dibetes

[icsouza]

From: Santosh Helekar [mailto:chimbel...@gmail.com] 
<<...Regarding cinnamon and other untested
alternative and quack nostrums, the Mayo Clinic website in my previous
post in this thread does not recommend that they be used as an adjunct
therapy. Please see the relevant quote below:

"Numerous substances have been shown in some studies to improve
insulin sensitivity, yet other studies have failed to find any benefit
for blood sugar control or in lowering A1C levels. Because of the
conflicting findings, no alternative therapies are currently
recommended for diabetes control." The Mayo Clinic
**There are patients who have used successfully, to some extent (as "adjunct 
therapy", not a total cure), some ayurvedic preparations, since there is no 
'allopathic' cure for diabetes. This information can be sent to Mayo Clinic so 
as to change their Website.
Thanks!
Regards.
Fr.Ivo

--- On Sun, 5/8/11, Gilbert Lawrence  wrote:
>
> Hi Ivo,
>
> You again display your acumen, carefully selecting very
> nuanced terminology like "adjunct therapy"; which many
> non-clinicians may not understand or appreciate.
>
> Of course their ignorance is not your problem!
>
> Using Styrofoam as a container can be a health problem (see
> link); in addition to waste-disposal of the container.
>
> http://www.grinningplanet.com/2008/04-08/foam-cups-polystyrene-cups-article.htm
>
> The following is a link to your question about using the
> microwave and some of the commonly used containers to
> prepare / warm the food
>
> http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/update0706a.shtml
>
> Regards, GL
>
> - Ivo wrote:
>
> It agrees with what I said: 1. Cinnamon can be an adjunct
> therapy. 2. Therefore, anti-diabetic drugs should be
> prescribed by modern medicine physicians. 3. There is no
> cure, either with modern medicine or with alternative
> medicine (ayurvedic and homeopathic medicines may help).
>
> What about microwave prepared food? Is it true that many
> people, mainly women, got cancer?

[Goanet] Open source... with a Goa link

[Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

http://www.xing.com/profile/Hrishikesh_Lele

FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
#784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org

[Goanet] Daily Grook #947

[Francis Rodrigues]

DAILY GROOK #947
===
FUNNY MONEY
===
by Francis Rodrigues





all paper-money i prefer
so coins i must exchange,
yet i will miss them for
i'm a big fan of change!




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sheet-music,tab,lyrics,chords of great Konkani pop hits
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[Goanet] Now 'Carmen Miranda' stranded in Spain..

[JoeGoaUk]

Looks like another Email Id hacked
 
quote:
 
From: 
"Carmen Miranda" 
View contact details 
To: undisclosed-recipients
 
My sincere regrets for this sudden request, things actually got out of control 
on my
 trip to Madrid,Spain . 
I was mugged,all my belongings including cellphone and credit card were all 
stolen 
at gun point. I need your help flying back home.
Am Cash Strapped at the moment. I've made contact with my bank but the best 
they could do was to send me a new card in the mail which 
will take 2-4 working days to arrive here. I need you to lend me some Money to 
sort
 my self out of this predicament,
 i will pay back once i make it out of Madrid.
Western Union or MoneyGram is the fastest option to wire funds to me.
 Let me know if you need my details(Full names/location) to effect atransfer. 
You can reach me via email or hotel's desk phone and the number is,+34 91 
608943641.
 
Best,
Carmen 


 
joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

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http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc

[Goanet] QGA - Montreal Correspondence

[mary silveira]

Dear Member,Please note our New email address for QGA - Montreal.. Please check 
your Junk folder for our updated msg. from:
quebecgoanassociat...@yahoo.com
Thank YouRegardsMary SilveiraPresident - QGA


















  

[Goanet] HOW LONG WILL GOVERNOR DR SIDHU CONTINUE TO HANG ON ILLEGALLY AT RAJ BHAVAN?

[Aires Rodrigues]

The UPA government headed by Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh has
been so burdened with a string of successive scams that it has
obviously had no time to finalise a new Governor for Goa.

Dr. S.S. Sidhu’s five year term as Governor ended way back on 5th
August 2009.  He continues to hang on at Goa Raj Bhavan for the last
21 months without being re-sworn in as Governor as was required.
Whenever his illegal and authorized extension in Goa ends, Dr. Sidhu
should make sure that before he leaves, he apologises to the people of
Goa for having deliberately defied the Right to Information Act.

Dr. Sidhu, a very distinguished former IAS officer will be
unfortunately now remembered for all the wrong reasons. Though the
head of the state he has refused to comply with the law enacted for
transparency and accountability. The only memento he should carry from
Goa is a copy of the Right to Information Act. Dr. Sidhu, may I offer
you one just incase you have misplaced that copy I sent you last
Christmas.

Aires Rodrigues
T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat
Ribandar - Goa - 403006
Mobile: 9822684372

[Goanet] Song for the day

[Gabe Menezes]

 * Susan 
Maughan
-
Bobby's Girl

 Susan 
Maughan
-
Bobby's Girl
Susan 
Maughan
-
Bobby's Girl
*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEcTOOIp8nk&NR=1&feature=fvwp

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.