[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Nachonk Nokllo Angonn Vankddem

[lino dourado]

 Nachonk Nokllo Angonn Vankddem
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/35498
Amchea purvozanim zannvayen uloilolea utrancher aiz meren ami dosun asat.
Tancheo, xanneponnan bhorleleo opari aiz meren pixeavori portean-portean ami 
upeog kortat. Tannim dovorlolem vhodd girest orthabhorit oparinchem daiz, 
choltam-bhonvta amchea sadheaponnacha jivitan vapor kortana, ek onek toren 
gineananchem daiz amche fuddle pillgek jivi urpa sarkem kortat. Amgele azo-azi, 
xepai-xemaim, avoy-bapui ani atam ami, amchea bhurgeam thaim uloitana kaim 
pavtti purvozamnim dil’lea oparincho upeog korun bhurgeank xiddkavnni ani bori 
xist xikoitat. Thoddeo opari oxeo asat, teo chant-pallek amchea tonddar 
khelltat ani tantli ek mhollear nachonk nokllo angonn vankddem.
Goddie zait hi opar eka Kristanvacha kazara matvant suru zal’li asot. Adlea 
tempar, Kristanvancha ghora angnant mattov ghalun kazaracho soromb zatalo. 
Angnnachi zomin vhoir-sokoll aslear tika eksarki unchai divn sopott (level) 
kortale. Kazarachem vo nachpachem angonn toyar korpak don va tin dis lagtale. 
Baimchem udok ghalun zomin ximpatale ani pettnni ghevn zomin ghott zavsor 
borich pett’ttale. Kazar suru zaunk thoddo vell asa mhollear, ekthaim korun 
dovorlolim zhaddachim chodd korun bendechim panam purai mattvan ximpaddaitale. 
Him pannam, nachpacha mattvan ghalpachem kharan aslem. Teddnanche twist ani 
cha-cha dans nachunk, hea pannancher sullsullit zatalem. Kazara disa nachtana 
mattvan dhull zalina zalear, angonn toyar korpeanchi tust kortale. Hi tust vo 
vakanni kazarachi xim zata tea vellar zatali. Ani zori nachtana dhull zalo 
zalear, konn tori ekto xim kortolea zagear, kantar ganvun angonn toyar 
korpeanchi izot kaddtalo. 
Adim, Abril-May mhoynneant, Mumbai aslelim Gõykaram sutten Gõyam yetalim. 
Xezarchea ghorant vo soireanchem kazarank tim vantto ghetalim. Kazarank vo 
dansank ximitt vo konkritachea Mumbaicha vosrean nachpi choddxea Mumbaikarank, 
ganvantlea ghora agnnant nachpachi sonvoim nasli. Borelim nachpi xenttalim. 
Maticha agnnant Mumbaikarank nachunk avghodd zatalem. Punn khorelo nachpi, 
keddnach zomnicho guneanv korinaslo. Hem mhaka thoddeabhov teddnacha 
Mumbaikaram thaim onnbhovlun ailam.
Pollevnk sobit distali ti choli. Khas eka soireacha kazarak Mumbai thavn 
avoy-bapaycha sangata Gõyam aileli. Kazarak hajir aslolea ganvcha sogllea 
cheddeank ticha lagim nachunk zai aslem. Mhakai-i bhi tich umed asli. Punn 
chance poddonaslo. Emcee (MC) fuddlo dans miakar kolit korcha adinch, ticha 
sorbhonvtim tornatteanchi upot zatali. Noxib asloloch ticha thaim nachunk 
xoktalo. Ani oxem kortam-kortam mhojea bapul-bhavak ticha thaim nachpachi sort 
funttli. 
Amcha ganvcha eka choliechi mhaka ixttagott asli. Hi ixttagott fokot, kazara 
ghel’le kodden nachpa itlich. Mhonnchem, muzgamni khas songit vazlem mhonntoch 
ami dogaim kazaracha mattvant khoinsoruch asum, eka-mekak sodit muzgamni 
vazlole kumpasar ditadit nachtalim. Vaztole songitar ticha thaim nachonk ek 
atvich nachpachi urba mhaka yetali. Kumpasar moddop, gunvade marop, ani justuch 
vaztolea surar amche kullear-kulle ani bhuzar-bhuz haptop zatalem. Dekhun, he 
segit char-panch nach ami vhodda umedin nachtana, amkam konnench disturb korunk 
zai naslem. Punn tea disa amcho dusro nach somptanch, sobit Mumbaikanni thaim 
nachtolea bapul-bhav amchea sorxim ailo ani tea sobit choliek mhojea svadin 
korun mhojea ixttinnink zap korinastana ghevn ghelo.
Hanv sodtalom bazlelem punn mhaka mell’lem orvem. Sobit sundor Mumbaikarnnink
nachovpak mhaka ek bhag favo zalem mhunn hanv umedicha supan lottunk laglom. 
Dusre nachpi bhurge mhaka kunattkayen polletat kai diso. Muzgamni tango 
kumpasar sur vazunk survat keli. Tika kakeant ghetana mhoje naddieche 
ghoddghodd (pulsation) vhaddle. Hanvem payem halloile. Ti ubich ravli. Porto 
ekdam payem nittayer ghatle. Mhozo dhavo paim mukhar ghetlo somzun ti aplo uzvo 
paim fuddem kaddtoli kai mhunn. Punn nam. Ti tosich ubi ravli. Mhozo uzvo hat 
ticha pattir ghott chepplo ani mhojea islean oddpak hanvem steps fattlean 
ghetle. Ti nachpak chodduch zhodd yetali. Dotorer boslole vo gotlole mosik 
utthavpak ekdom sompem zait, punn; hea Mumbaikarnink nhoi aslem re saiba. 
Khorench; tika nachonk sapuch yenaslem ani tea khatir, mhojea bapul-bhav tika 
mhojea hodd’dear marun ghel’lo. Mhojea lagim nachtana tinnem kagall vo complain 
korchem aslem. In Bombay, I danced on the concrete floors. But here I’m 
uncomfortable…ani hanvem tika luan sanglem. People
 does not know to dance, blames the floor. 
Ani mhaka dista, amcha xannea purvozamni nachonk nokllo angonn vankddem hi opar 
oxich mhunnpan ail’li. Mhojem khorem zait?
 Lino B. Dourado


 

[Goanet] Fighting Corruption begins by reporting Corruption

[MD]

Message: 5
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 08:54:40 +0530
From: "U. G. Barad" 
To: 
Subject: [Goanet] Fighting Corruption begins by reporting Corruption
   and not by these hunger fasts.
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On this thread, an article titled "Does Anna's Civil Society Represent the
Nation?" by Madhu Chandra was posted on Goanet.  Perhaps the author's main
point can be summarized in the last para of the article, namely: "Therefore,
I reserve my rights to refrain from this civil society, if Team Anna remains
silent spectator on issues of caste, communalism, rights of minorities and
the rise of fascism."

I think the society handles multiple issues at any one time.  Some people
take one issue, while others will take up another.  This does not mean that
if one takes up a particular issue, he should be asked to take other issues
simultaneously.  If this is the criteria, then NO issue will be tackled.

Corruption is an issue on which the people are extremely agitated more
because of surfacing scams after scams.  This does not mean that it is the
ONLY issue that agitates the society.

Best regards,

U. G. Barad

My comments:

There is undeclared Apartheid in India.
While the scheduled caste privileges were extended to Sikh dalits in
1956 and Buddhist dalits in 1990, they have been denied to Muslim and
Christian dalits, which account for nearly two-thirds of the 27
million Christians in India. Christians account for 2.3% of India’s
1.2 billion people.  So it is justifiable that even this Undeclared
Apartheid should go along with all types of corruption.

People sometimes voluntarily bribe to get the work done, to avoid
inconvenience. For example, I will pay an official handsomely just to
approve what ever my application is. I will readily pay Rs.100/- to a
traffic cop to avoid a ticket that will result in visit to the traffic
court later on (could be many visits to the court!)

How corruption can be avoided ?

Below are some examples: (the first one, computerization that I prefer)

E-governance is key to ridding corruption. Once everything becomes
online, there will be little opportunity for corruption. A perfect
example is that of railway tickets.

Bribery, or "graft", is a fact of life for more or less everybody in
India. Most importantly, people must be self disciplined so that
bribery stops. There are no readymade answers but there has to be
collective consciousness of what is good and bad. The head of the
department must be made responsible if bribery has taken place in his
department.

Support for Hazare is particularly strong among those who have
benefited most from India's recent breakneck economic development but
are frustrated by a largely unreformed public sector that delivers
poor and haphazard services.

Bureaucratic and petty corruption is extreme in India.

Others say those who pay the bribes are to blame too. One supreme
court lawyer who refused demands for commissions in return for
sanctioning payment for work he had done for the government, said
giving in to corruption could be down to "deep powerlessness" or
simply a "I just want to get on with my day" type of attitude. "As
Indians we see corruption as something that permeates our lives, like
air pollution, but we need to think much more carefully about it," he
said.

Raghu Thoniparambil, who runs the website ipaidabribe.com, pointed out
that corruption in the private sector was just as prevalent. "All
these protests are very inspiring but will people really change? I
don't know," he said.

Less ambitious and spectacular measures could have more impact than
the ombudsman office Hazare and his followers want to create,
Thoniparambil argues.

Therefore, moral responsibility, a sense of national duty should
prevail over the temptation to demand bribe.

MD.

Re: [Goanet] How many expat Goans inyour City/country

[Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

George, I won't be as pessimistic as you. Over my years of interaction, I've
come to believe that there are an amazing number of people doing fascinating
work across the Goa/Goan world -- in Goa, in the diaspora.

But you need to search hard to find these gems. Often they get
underrecognised and ignored, because our society is not used to
acknowledging its own and offering praise.

We do have certain problems, agreed. The main of which, I think, is that we
had it too easy for too long. That has brought in affluenza and arrogance.
If we had to struggle some more for what we got, then we might have been a
better people. (We have also lost our ability to smile, and take ourselves
far too seriously.) FN

PS: What do the others see as the problems the Goa/Goan community faces?

FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
#784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org


On 20 August 2011 21:41, George Pinto  wrote:

> These are accurate numbers from the World Center of Population studies:
>
> 1. Goans who think they are special compared to other Indians: 10,00,000.
>   Goans who actually are: 5.
>
> 2. Goans who are all talk and no action: 5,00,000.
>   Goans who actually do something positive: 100.
>
> 3. Goans who say corruption is a problem: 2,50,000.
>   Goans who are corrupt: 7,50,000.
>
> 4. Goans who are a petty, mean-spirited, miserable lot: 5,00,000
>   Goans who are not: 5.
>
> 5. Goans who take credit for someone else's efforts: 1,00,000.
>   Goans who give credit when due: 10.
>
> 6. Goans who think riff-raff white tourists in Goa
>   are superior to them: 5,00,000.
>   Goans who do not have this problem: 10.
>
> 7. Goans who think "help they neighbour" is important: 10,00,000.
>   Goans who actually do: 10.

[Goanet] ADVOCATE GENERAL OF GOA FIASCO

[Aires Rodrigues]

The Drafting committee of the Indian Constitution headed by Dr. B.R.
Ambedkar had wide deliberations pertaining to the appointment of
Advocate General. Those debates reveal that it was contemplated that
the appointment and the tenure of the Advocate General should not be
dependant on the vagaries of party politics.

In order to ensure the decorum of the office, it was decided by the
constitutional committee that the Advocate General should not indulge
in private practice. Further, the Advocate General had to be a lawyer
of eminence and his office a bureau of legal advice with the sole duty
and function to advise the Government. Paramount among the duties to
establish and maintain a high level of competency in the legislative
and executive structure of the Government. It was also envisaged that
the Advocate General should appear only in crucial policy related
matters and not in all cases just for the sake of remuneration.

The Constitution of India mandates that a Governor shall appoint as
Advocate General a person who is qualified to be appointed as a High
Court Judge. Is the present Advocate General of Goa qualified to be a
High Court judge?  This is a question Mr. Subodh Kantak has to ask
himself though the answer is obvious to all.  Chief Minister Digambar
Kamat has also a lot to explain for having allowed the high
constitutional post of Advocate General to blatantly and profusely
bleed the State exchequer.  “Satyameva Jayate”, the national motto of
India does not seem to prevail. I will comment no further as the
people of Goa are better judges.

Aires Rodrigues
T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat
Ribandar - Goa - 403006
Mobile: 9822684372

[Goanet] Goans in Canada

[MD]

Message: 4
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 18:47:07 -0400
From: "Roland Francis" 
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Subject: [Goanet] Goans in Canada
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Total population of Goans in Canada is slightly less than 40,000, of whom
90% are established in Toronto and the other 10% being mainly in Montreal
and Vancouver although there are scatterings in Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg,
and Halifax.

Toronto Goan population origins comprise as follows:
20 % East Africa connection
10 % Pakistan connection
 3 % European (Portugal and African colonies) connection
67 % India including via Persian Gulf connection

Comment:

Furthermore, the second generation has totally adapted to the Canadian
culture and do not see any connection with India except interaction
with fellow Canadians of Indian origin.  Some can also speak the
English in native Indian accent as well as Canadian as per situation
requires.

MD

Re: [Goanet] How many expat Goans inyour City/country

[Santosh Helekar]

What George has said below is very close to the truth. But I also want to state 
the positive side of Goans:

8. Indian citizen Goans who believe and accept that they are Indians: 14,57,623
Indian citizen Goans who believe they are non-Indians: 100
Indian citizen Goans who are anti-Indian: 15
Indian citizen Goans who believe they are Portuguese: 5

Cheers,

Santosh 

--- On Sat, 8/20/11, George Pinto  wrote:
>
> These are accurate numbers from the
> World Center of Population studies:
> 
> 1. Goans who think they are special compared to other
> Indians: 10,00,000.
>    Goans who actually are: 5. 
> 
> 2. Goans who are all talk and no action: 5,00,000.
>    Goans who actually do something positive:
> 100.
> 
> 3. Goans who say corruption is a problem: 2,50,000.
>    Goans who are corrupt: 7,50,000.
> 
> 4. Goans who are a petty, mean-spirited, miserable lot:
> 5,00,000
>    Goans who are not: 5.
> 
> 5. Goans who take credit for someone else's efforts:
> 1,00,000.
>    Goans who give credit when due: 10.
> 
> 6. Goans who think riff-raff white tourists in Goa
>    are superior to them: 5,00,000. 
>    Goans who do not have this problem: 10.
> 
> 7. Goans who think "help they neighbour" is important:
> 10,00,000.
>    Goans who actually do: 10.
>    
> Hope this helps.
> 
> George
>

[Goanet] The Don Bosco Relic explained

[Bosco D]

The Relic

The relics of Don Bosco have been recomposed from the urn that contained 
his remains since 1929 when the body was exhumed for his beatification 
and canonization. The bones and tissues of the right hand and arm have 
been taken and placed within a wax replica of St. John Bosco’s body, 
which in turn is enclosed in a large urn.


The urn was constructed specially for this pilgrimage. It is composed of 
a large glass box in which the wax replica is placed, and easily viewed. 
The box is mounted atop a large wood and metal cart. Among the urn’s 
decorations are the words, “Da mihi animas, ceatera tolle,” which 
translates to, “Give me souls, take away the rest,” one of Don Bosco’s 
many quotes that guided his ministry from its earliest stages through 
today. Images of young faces also surround the urn, as well as maps 
showing where the Salesian Family is present today. Finally, the years 
1815 and 2015 are placed near the base, serving as a reminder of the 
purpose of this Relic Pilgrimage: in 2015, the Salesian Family, and the 
Church as a whole, will celebrate the 200th Anniversary of Don Bosco’s 
birth in 1815.



More information at:

http://donboscoamongus.mypov.in/the-relic/


- B

[Goanet] [Photo Blog by Rajan Parrikar] Romancing the Goan Monsoon - Take 2

[Rajan P. Parrikar]

Photo Blog by Rajan Parrikar has posted a new item, 'Romancing the Goan Monsoon
- Take 2'

More scenes from around Goa in our ongoing romance with the monsoon.



















You may view the latest post at
http://www.parrikar.com/blog/2011/08/20/romancing-the-goan-monsoon-take-2/

Best regards,
Rajan P. Parrikar
parri...@yahoo.com

[Goanet] Really heavy rain here...

[Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

Has been pouring quite a bit in Goa since morning (Saturday), and for much
of the evening too... FN
--
FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org
Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronhaHas

Re: [Goanet] WHY IS GOA’S ARCHBISHOP EMBARRASSED TO DEPOSE IN COURT?

[Gabe Menezes]

On 19 August 2011 12:51, Aires Rodrigues  wrote:

> In his plea to the Court, to be exempted from deposing in the 2004
> Ribandar Church case proceedings, the Archbishop of Goa Filipe Neri
> Ferrao has accused me of having sought to have him summoned only to
> embarrass him. The Archbishop has however not substantiated this
> allegation. May I clarify that I have always held Rev Ferrao in high
> esteem not because he is related to me but also for the warm and
> upright individual he is as a person.
>
> However, in an era of transparency and accountability, there should
> not be a cover up. In the affairs of the Ribandar Church in 2004 the
> Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao chose to look the other way, though I
> had personally met him and had given him complete details of the
> misdemeanour of his priest Father Newton Rodrigues. As the head of the
> Catholic Church he ought to have cracked the whip and cleansed our
> Parish.
>
>
> Aires Rodrigues
> T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat
> Ribandar - Goa - 403006
> Mobile: 9822684372
>

RESPONSE: For what it's worth I empathise! We have a lot of shysters, of
incredulous disposition here in London. For instance a safe goes missing,
T.V. costing £500 pounds (which I donated) in the eighties as well - Police
deem no break in - an inside job. The short of the matter, no investigation
of sorts; yet the man is able to put himself up to investigate others! This
man talks about holier than thou stuff - he is afraid to come out in the
open about his sexuality. Now since he believes in God Almighty, how will be
be judged?

You keep up the good fight - no one is above the Law - except if they have
Diplomatic immunity like the Pope!

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] Goa news for August 21, 2011

[Goanet News Service]

Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Naphtha fire blazes through Mangor - Times of India
p8lLkeGK9M0eKqMxCa0CmZMdg
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNE3NJgIQxMUwIwPRUf9CVLFaPrlfQ&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Naphtha-fire-blazes-through-Mangor/articleshow/9679030.cms

*** Sporting Clube de Goa lift Super Cup - IBNLive.com
NLive.comPTI 
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNG-gyPrJyJs4TCEAP3XKh2tGXC57w&url=http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/sporting-clube-de-goa-lift-super-cup/795433.html

*** South Asian Film Festival in Goa from Sept 15 - Times of
India
8. Chief minister Digambar Kamat will inaugurate the four-day
festival which is organized by the South Asia Foundation, an
official press release ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNHqgsVnVK-aspVaSdtkgcFwaPqtWg&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/South-Asian-Film-Festival-in-Goa-from-Sept-15/articleshow/9679070.cms

*** Emerald Court from Acron, Goa - Business Line
ased developer, has opened bookings for a ready-to-move-in
residential complex. Located at Nagoa, Arpora, a five-minute
drive from the famous Calangute and Baga beaches, homeowners at
Emerald Court enjoy both the flavour and ambience of ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNHmWJ5SKu_0IFcqF5Z4jNeVlX67MQ&url=http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/features/investment-world/personal-finance/article2376633.ece

*** Body of woman found at Tivim - Times of India
mes of IndiaThe Mapusa police have registered a case of
unnatural death and sent the body to Goa Medical College and
Hospital, Bambolim, for postmortem. The body is yet to be
identified. "We have sent the photograph to all police stations
to establish the identity ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGg2kOvWOCX43C3USTqTO9amh9PIw&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Body-of-woman-found-at-Tivim/articleshow/9679393.cms

*** 'Govt must aid disabled to lead regular life' - Times of
India
mes of IndiaAlleging poor implementation of the policy for
differently abled persons by the government, Avelino de Sa,
president, Disability Rights Association of Goa said, "most
public spaces, buildings, schools and recreational facilities
are yet to be made ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGbT717hXcCCKMih7FSYDOjFHDIcg&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Govt-must-aid-disabled-to-lead-regular-life/articleshow/9679395.cms

*** Security beefed up for Chaturthi in South Goa - Times of
India
mes of IndiaSuperintendent of police (South Goa) Waman Tari
convened a meeting on Friday with sub divisional police officers
from Margao, Vasco, Quepem, as well as other police officials to
discuss security measures. "Police will be kept on high alert
and ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFL57FZL8r7TJjPn1eF91-rNgD3tA&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Security-beefed-up-for-Chaturthi-in-South-Goa/articleshow/9679354.cms

*** Women at greater risk of contracting angina: Study - Times
of India
mes of IndiaPANAJI: Women in Goa are at greater risk of
contracting the disease angina than men, a study has revealed.
The study further stated that although women of all ages were at
greater risk than men, the risk of angina was much more
significant in the age ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFJFlhZolaU0qTBcNQu5skD8oqwdA&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Women-at-greater-risk-of-contracting-angina-Study/articleshow/9679414.cms

*** Dharbandora locals to permit mining traffic after Sept 11 -
Times of India
ost-Ganesh Chaturthi- after a meeting between them and
stakeholders of Goa chamber of commerce and industry (GCCI).
...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEkMqscwxcT27ue_OsoXX5-rg5Ltg&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Dharbandora-locals-to-permit-mining-traffic-after-Sept-11/articleshow/9679331.cms

*** Islamic organization backs Gandhian - Times of India
across all ages, ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNE3hCYLnDVcM7R4S1F5ZoKMxOIwVw&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Islamic-organization-backs-Gandhian/articleshow/9679050.cms


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php

Re: [Goanet] What is independence day

[Santosh Helekar]

A secessionist movement against a sovereign state is by definition a political 
movement. Please read the following paper entitled, "The Political Economy of 
Secession" from Oxford University:

http://users.ox.ac.uk/~ball0144/self-det.pdf

All secessionist organizations are therefore political organizations. Most of 
them see themselves as political parties, even though their political 
expression may have been legally banned by their respective national 
governments, e.g. in the case of the Portuguese secessionist political 
organizations that are banned by Portugal today. In practice, most 
secessionists of today who are militating against sovereign representative 
democracies are fanatical extremists, not enjoying the support of the majority 
of the people, including their own communities and constituencies. However, 
only a small number of them are terrorists.

Please note that nearly all secessionist organizations in India have been 
recognized as terrorist, insurgent or extremist organizations by national and 
international law enforcement agencies. This is true of the list that I had 
provided, and also of the organization mentioned in Falcao's quote below, 
namely National Socialist Council of Nagaland:

QUOTE
Here we have another Non-Indian community called Nagas 
http://www.hindustantimes.com/NSCN-slams-Nehru-on-Naga-I-Day/Article1-733316.aspx
UNQUOTE
Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão

Please see below the list of Indian secessionist organizations that have been 
officially designated as terrorist, insurgent and extremist organizations:

http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/terroristoutfits/index.html

Unfortunately, the Hindu Janajagruti Samiti, the Bharatiya Janata Party and 
other majority and minority political organizations and parties in India have 
not yet been designated as extremist groups by any national or international 
law enforcement agency.

BTW, I asked two native English speakers, one American and one British, to tell 
me if this discussion has anything to do with the English language. They 
categorically stated that it does not. They also told me that they found no 
spelling, grammatical or semantic mistakes in any of my posts in this thread.

Cheers,

Santosh
   
--- On Fri, 8/19/11, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão  
wrote:  
> 
> COMMENT : There is ocean of difference
> between ‘secessionist’ and ‘fanatic terrorist’. HJS
> is a fanatic terrorist
> group who is against their own Hindus who have moved with
> the times.
> Secessionists need not be militant nor violent, or belong
> to any political
> party, or resort to armed violence; but have an ideology of
> separatism or
> withdrawal from the main association. English is a language
> which needs to be
> used correctly, especially when in an English speaking
> country where they
> detest the murder of their language. In India, it is
> tolerable on any ‘grounds’,
> and passed off as a slip of tongue. 
> 
> Certain politicians in Goa have recently
> stated that people who have studied English and then go
> abroad are just butler
> and cooks, and are anti-Nationals! Not that I agree, as we
> see in the above
> post, a thorough nationalist and not a butler and cook.
> 
> Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis
> Falcão.  
>  

[Goanet] Fwd: Global Goenkar - Special Edition World Goa Day 2011

[renebarreto]

 



Ami Goenkar ! Amis sogle ek !!



Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Kenelm I.F. Santana Lopes" 
> Date: 20 August 2011 07:56:55 GMT+05:30
> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
> Bcc: goan...@yahoo.co.uk
> Subject: Global Goenkar - Special Edition World Goa Day 2011
> 
> Presenting the Global Goenkar Special Edition World Goa Day 2011
> Please share with all your fellow Goans


>  
> Wishing everyone on World Goa Day !





>  
> **
> Online Interactive version:
> 
>  http://issuu.com/globalgoenkar/docs/world_goa_day_special_edition_200811
> 

Re: [Goanet] How many expat Goans inyour City/country

[Gabe Menezes]

On 20 August 2011 19:05, Eddie Fernandes  wrote:

> From: Mervyn  Maciel
> Speaking of Goans in the London and Outer London Areas, maybe Stella
> Mascarenhas-Keyes or even  Eddie Fernandes or Flavio Gracias as President
> of
> the Goan Association(UK)?
> =
>
> RESPONSE:
>
> I attended a pre Global Goans Convention meeting in London last month.
> Among
> those present was Flavio Gracias, President of the Goan Association (UK)
> and
> Dr Stella Mascarenhas-Keyes, anthropologist and researcher.  Selma Carvalho
> was unable to attend.  I raised the subject of estimating the number of UK
> Goans  since there had been several enquiries and wanted to avoid confusion
> by providing conflicting  responses.  After some discussion, we agreed that
> a figure of 100,000 UK Goans in 2011 was our best guesstimate.
>
> Re Swindon: An article in the Indian Express, 17 July 2011 puts the Goan
> population of  Swindon at 50,000 and Wembley at 15,000 (see
> http://goo.gl/8wVeR ).  However, a figure of 10,000 for Swindon is more
> reliable.  Given the total Swindon population of 180,051 at the latest
> census, it would mean 5.5% of the inhabitants are Goan and this must surely
> rank as the highest density of Goans in any city outside of Goa.
>
> Eddie Fernandes
>

RESPONSE: I am bowled over by the stats but since it is from the horses
mouth I take it as stated. Do we have any Goan organisation that can claim
to minimally represent this  vast amount of Goans?


-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

Re: [Goanet] How many expat Goans inyour City/country

[Gabe Menezes]

On 20 August 2011 17:11, George Pinto  wrote:

> These are accurate numbers from the World Center of Population studies:
>
> 1. Goans who think they are special compared to other Indians: 10,00,000.
>   Goans who actually are: 5.
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> George
>

RESPONSE: By George! Perhaps only one, may be two have have stated thus - We
are not special - we should put a direct train from U.P. to Goa, to show our
solidarity: what says you? Actions speak louder than words, or perhaps not.

Ami soglem ek.

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] Plot for sale

[percy ferrao]

Plot for sale only for Goans at Kaneguinim (Cabo de Rama) pls contact
 
percyfer...@yahoo.com
 

[Goanet] Coprruption boundaries are beyond parties

[Nelson Lopes]

Corruption boundaries are beyond Parties
It is unfortunate that the most upright P.M.of free India is  to bear
the brunt of  barrage. It is equally sad that the Congress party is
applying it personally, as if it is only defender of corruption During
the short NDA regime it was not free of corruption or corrupt
practices Every one whether in the ruling dispensation or the
opposition have their fare share  of involvement in some way of the
other. True the Congress party has been ruling the country for the
longest period. It appears that the Congress party is thinking of
perpetuating their rule for ever The attack is presumed by them to be
directly pointing at them and that is the reason of their fierce and
unbridled attack blinded by arrogance  Their theories are not
practical to presume the surge of support for the cause . The fight is
against the monumental, hydra headed,corruption .but the Congress
arrogates to itself ,unnecessarily as being  the target Any state that
is not ruled by the Congress has many skeletons of corruption that
have tumbled out Many an individual politicians or other wise have
stooped to lowest levels to enrich themselves at the cost of larger
interests. Naturally such incidents  portray and reflect the image of
the institution one belongs The laws are such that favour these
culprits and justice is slow and winding, Then there are wasted
interests to protect them for a consideration The agony is that the
cancer of corruption has percolated to the lowest level, "head to the
toe" It has an  crushing effect on all sections of the society,
specially the poor There is no will to recognise and worst still to
address the issue head on It has been accepted as normal and way of
life The greatest offenders have become celebrities and adored for
their ill gotten, tainted  contributions The parties are not unified
to deal with the problem, again because they do not want to destroy
their turn Look at how elections are won and an honest candidate does
not stand an inch of chance Hence elections are the greatest
contributors to corruption There has to be serious thinking  on
electoral, police, judicial reforms,tax evasions and criminality in
our society Corruption must not be glorified and justice must be swift
and equitable to nip corruption in the bud. The parties must put the
welfare of the nation above self and the electorate can ensure reduced
corruption by constantly changing the actors who have dug ed in  their
feet too long in this profession People have lost faith in the
executive, judiciary and the legislature. they do not show passion and
compassion to the cause and are insensitive and selfish to the core
The popular wave against corruption is the first step towards the
direction of hopeful reforms. The rulers by their arrogance have
alienated from the reality of the people they represent They have
become immune to the sufferings of their people One worthy factor of
change is to constantly bring in new faces ,but it is easier said than
done
Nelson lopes Chinchinim 9850826276

Re: [Goanet] How many expat Goans inyour City/country

[Eddie Fernandes]

From: Mervyn  Maciel
Speaking of Goans in the London and Outer London Areas, maybe Stella
Mascarenhas-Keyes or even  Eddie Fernandes or Flavio Gracias as President of
the Goan Association(UK)?
=

RESPONSE:

I attended a pre Global Goans Convention meeting in London last month. Among
those present was Flavio Gracias, President of the Goan Association (UK) and
Dr Stella Mascarenhas-Keyes, anthropologist and researcher.  Selma Carvalho
was unable to attend.  I raised the subject of estimating the number of UK
Goans  since there had been several enquiries and wanted to avoid confusion
by providing conflicting  responses.  After some discussion, we agreed that
a figure of 100,000 UK Goans in 2011 was our best guesstimate. 

Re Swindon: An article in the Indian Express, 17 July 2011 puts the Goan
population of  Swindon at 50,000 and Wembley at 15,000 (see
http://goo.gl/8wVeR ).  However, a figure of 10,000 for Swindon is more
reliable.  Given the total Swindon population of 180,051 at the latest
census, it would mean 5.5% of the inhabitants are Goan and this must surely
rank as the highest density of Goans in any city outside of Goa.

Eddie Fernandes
   

Re: [Goanet] Anna effect: Goa's ministers asked to observe a 'bribe-free day'

[Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão]

Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:02:23 -0700, U. G.
Barad wrote: <<>>Anna 
Hazare's influence seems to be everywhere. Now, members of a civil
society group in Goa have asked ministers in the Congress-led coalition
government to observe Thursday as a 'bribe-free day' in support of the
veteran Gandhian.

 

COMMENT : No Dotor, wrong? Maybe more
appropriate, the old Konkani saying? “Dhukor kednai ghu sodta?”

 


Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. 




  

[Goanet] How many expat Goans in your city/ country

[Ignatius Fernandes]

Dear Fredrick,

Crawley is a small town  in West Sussex near Gatwick airport
the second largest airport after Heathrow in England.
In fact Gatwick fall under the jurisdiction of Crawley.

At a rough estimate we have about twenty five Goan families 
.each with two or three children to each families.
Most or nearly all settled from  East Africa e.g. Kenya Uganda 

and few from Tanzania.
We also have a few Goans from Goa who keep a low profile
the only places you might seem them is at the church.

The problem we have is that we are not united 

We do not have socials whereby we could mingle and 

come to know each other and share our heritage.
Ignatius Fernandes.

Re: [Goanet] US Bank prime rates in the Eighties.

[E DeSousa]

Gabe Menezes writes:

"With markets in a tizzy put your money in a State owned Indian Bank with a
yield of 8 percent plus that's in Rupees of course."

Comment:Great advice, but keep in mind India inflation has been hovering 
around 9%... 


http://www.tradingeconomics.com/india/inflation-cpi

It is hard to keep your head above water these days (unless you own gold of 
course)...

Re: [Goanet] How many expat Goans in your City/country

[Mervyn Lobo]

FN wrote:
> As far as I know, the Government of India probably doesn't have 
> accurate statistics of Indians located overseas in most parts of the 
> globe, leave alone State-wise figures. 


FN,

I think that the Govt of India has to concentrate on Indian expats only. 
That is those who have gone to foreign countries on a two year
work contract and have to return to India after their work contract 
expires. The Indian Govt does need to provide these expats with
all the services they require.


Then there is a second group of Goans/Indians abroad that are not 
Indians. These are people who have decided to leave India and take 
up the citizenship of another country. 


Such people, myself included, should be of no interest to the Indian
Govt. They are related to India only by ethnicity. In countries like
Mauritius, Guyana and Trinidad, half the population is of Indian descent. 


These people regard Goa/India they same way Ronald Reagan or

Barrack Obama view Ireland. It is the country their forefathers left
and a nice place to visit as a tourist.


Mervyn1853Lobo

Re: [Goanet] How many expat Goans inyour City/country

[Gabe Menezes]

On 20 August 2011 11:48, Mervyn & Elsie Maciel <
mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  Hi Fred,
> Speaking of Goans in the London and Outer London
> Areas, maybe Stella Mascarenhas-Keyes or even
> our Eddie Fernandes(Goan Voice UK), may be the
> best to provide you with this info? On the wider U.K. scale, I can't think
> of anyone who would have this information. Perhaps Flavio Gracias as
> President of the Goan Association(UK)
>

RESPONSE: I may stand corrected here but the  President of the G.O.A. (U.K.)
 has been quoted in print as stating the Goan population as being 50,000. So
please, some kind soul like our Eddie Fernandes, check your site and
reaffirm!

>
>
> Mervyn(Maciel)
>



-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

Re: [Goanet] Tony Fernandes the new majority owner of Queens Park Rangers (football) and owner of AirAsia Airlines

[Gabe Menezes]

On 20 August 2011 13:08, Camillo Fernandes wrote:

>
>
>  It may be of interest of Goa netters to know some more details  of Tony
> Fernandes the successful entrepreneur who was born to an Indian Goan father
> and Malacca Portuguese mother and is owner of AirAsia.
>
> Camilo Fernandes
>

RESPONSE: Aree Baba, long before you posted here on Goanet - we had already
covered his history.

Malacca Portuguese mother?  Please kindly define - I have lived in that area
for 7 years - as they say in Latin 'non scio' (I have no knowledge)

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

Re: [Goanet] How many expat Goans inyour City/country

[George Pinto]

These are accurate numbers from the World Center of Population studies:

1. Goans who think they are special compared to other Indians: 10,00,000.
   Goans who actually are: 5. 

2. Goans who are all talk and no action: 5,00,000.
   Goans who actually do something positive: 100.

3. Goans who say corruption is a problem: 2,50,000.
   Goans who are corrupt: 7,50,000.

4. Goans who are a petty, mean-spirited, miserable lot: 5,00,000
   Goans who are not: 5.

5. Goans who take credit for someone else's efforts: 1,00,000.
   Goans who give credit when due: 10.

6. Goans who think riff-raff white tourists in Goa
   are superior to them: 5,00,000. 
   Goans who do not have this problem: 10.

7. Goans who think "help they neighbour" is important: 10,00,000.
   Goans who actually do: 10.
   
Hope this helps.

George

[Goanet] EPIC blunders

[Nelson Lopes]

EPIC  blunders
The forms are submitted in capital letters then why so many mistakes
in spellings , omissions ? Even if one is holding the EPIC , Govt.
records and roles are having different data. This simply amazing and
lack of responsibility and accountability. Those responsible for these
howlers should be held  responsible for pecuniary damages and
inconvenience cause to the people for re-submission and corrections .
A notice was sent to the a holder to attend by Dy .Collector for
correction of PIN Why this presence, when the original application had
correctly stated it? The PIN can be verified from the postal booklet.
The age. sex address and even the  Photo many a times is substituted
Why the Govt records do not reflect the data as per cards issued.?
where ever birth date certificate is submitted, it should be entered
along with the age. It is seen that many names have characters for
which there is no provision  to fill The number of character should be
enlarged so that full name can be fitted and EPIC issued to reflect
the correct identity. The Pan card similarly has less characters and
the complete name cannot be fitted. Such Photo I.D`s cards create a
doubt about authenticity of the holder. Any Photo I.D issued by any
authority must be complete with respect to the name, address, age The
passport is the most scrutinised document and yet the senior citizen
card  issuing authority insists on Resident certificate in addition
The advertisement about easy procedure and quick response at the
facilitation center is only publicity.THAEO , who is to certify first
is a tax officer at Panjim, who has no regular hours, fixed dates at
the center Hence the delay is attributed to this lapse at the most The
recurring  mistakes in the EPIC , shows insensitivity and don`t care
attitude of the authorities The holders are made to run from pillar to
posts  due to no fault of their own.
Nelson Lopes Chinchinim 9850926276

[Goanet] Simply green countryside..

[JoeGoaUk]

Simply green countryside..

Watch this in HD full Screen

Enjoy & save nature
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For Goan Video Clips 
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[Goanet] Anna effect: Goa's ministers asked to observe a 'bribe-free day'

[U. G. Barad]

This must be a joke, right?

Best regards,
U. G. Barad


Anna effect: Goa's ministers asked to observe a 'bribe-free day'
Author: Indo-Asian News Service
Publication: NDTV.com
Date: August 18, 2011
URL: 
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/anna-effect-goas-ministers-asked-to-observ
e-a-bribe-free-day-127404

Anna Hazare's influence seems to be everywhere. Now, members of a civil
society group in Goa have asked ministers in the Congress-led coalition
government to observe Thursday as a 'bribe-free day' in support of the
veteran Gandhian.

Tired of the many scandals tumbling out of the Goa cabinet's closet and
inspired by Hazare's crusade against corruption, the Village Groups of Goa
(VGG), an umbrella group of several vigilante civil society organisations,
said the "moral spinoffs" of the civil society leader's fight had reached
the state.

"If they cannot be non-corrupt forever, we have asked every cabinet minister
in Goa to at least observe one bribe-free day to show their support for Anna
Hazare," John Pereira, the VGG convenor, said.

"We are telling every minister not to accept bribes or discuss any deals
which can involve kickbacks," Pereira said. He added that the VGG members
would visit the homes of Goa's ministers and silently hold placards in front
of the ministers  "thanking them for not accepting bribes on the day".

Goa, in the last few years, has been rocked by repeated corruption in a wide
range of sectors, which includes mining, narcotics, fake currency, excise
and midday meals.

[Goanet] Tony Fernandes the new majority owner of Queens Park Rangers (football) and owner of AirAsia Airlines

[Camillo Fernandes]

 It may be of interest of Goa netters to know some more details  of Tony 
Fernandes the successful entrepreneur who was born to an Indian Goan father and 
Malacca Portuguese mother and is owner of AirAsia.
 
Camilo Fernandes
 
"Tony Fernandes is a Malaysian entrepreneur and the founder of Tune Air Sdn. 
Bhd., who introduced the first budget no-frills airline, AirAsia to Malaysians 
with the tagline "Now everyone can fly". He has since founded the Tune Group of 
companies.  
 
He rose to prominence by turning AirAsia, a failing government-linked 
commercial airline, into a highly successful budget airline public-listed 
company.   Fernandes mortgaged his home and sank his savings to acquire the 
AirAsia, comprising two ageing Boeing 737-300 jets  and USD$11 million  worth 
of debts, for 26 US cents and transformed it into an industry player 
 

Born in Kuala Lumpur to an Indian Goan father and Malacca Portuguese mother 
Tony Fernandes is the son of the late Stephen Edward Fernandes, and Ena Dorothy 
Fernandez. When he was young, he used to follow his mother, a businesswoman, to 
Tupperware dealer parties and conventions.
 
He was educated at Epsom College 1977-83 and then graduated from the London 
School of Economics in 1987. He worked very briefly with Virgin Atlantic as an 
auditor, subsequently becoming the financial controller for Richard Branson's 
Virgin Records in London from 1987 to 1989
 
Tony was admitted as Associate Member of the Association of Chartered Certified 
Accountants (ACCA) in 1991 and became Fellow Member in 1996.
 
Upon his return to Malaysia, he became the youngest managing director of Warner 
Music (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd. Though an accountant, Fernandes is an amateur 
guitarist and also has achieved grade 8 piano which is where his musical 
inclination lies. He was responsible for revolutionising ethnic music, nasyid 
and dangdut, bringing them into the mainstream of contemporary Malaysian music.
 
He subsequently became the South East Asian regional vice-president for Warner 
Music Group from 1992-2001. When Time Warner Inc announced its merger with 
America Online Inc., Fernandes left to pursue his dream of starting a budget 
no-frills airline. He has now become the new majority owner of Queens Park 
Rangers."
=
 
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Tony Fernandes becomes the new majority owner of
QPR - Source : goanvoice.org.uk
On 18 August 2011 18:25, Camillo Fernandes wrote:
 
> Tony Fernandes announced as new owner of Queens Park Rangers
>
COMMENT: The man was a spectator at QPR's opening game, they got trashed by
lowly Bolton 0-4 at home! I would have walked away, obviously he knows
something, others don't! Bookies make them a good bet to return to Div one.
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

 
 
 
 
 
  

Re: [Goanet] Jan Lokpal Bill - A Panacea for Corruption...?

[floriano]

I was there, as you two were there at the Azad Maidan to witness the ongoing 
tamasha of the poor students being used for political gains. But then, I did 
not feel that I should disturb your trends of thought at that time. And I am 
happy that I didn't engage in Anna discourse  with you too, because,  I 
would not be sure, now,  if you were talking from your heart or expressing 
pickings from mine in this what you have put down.


Very well done and  excellently put. The root cause of corruption is 
everyone of us. We want our things done at any cost and we will go all the 
way to succumb to the illegal demands from our representative to solve our 
'illegal' problems. There is absolutely no need to pay bribes if one is 
'legal'. I am in construction business which is my leisure business to keep 
me occupied. And I do not indulge in illegalities. Recently, I have been 
made to wait for 2 and half years for my Occupancy certificate because 
somebody thought that I was illegal. They learnt their lesson, but it 
started on day one,  when I was asked for a packet  by a TCP petty officer 
who came to inspect the barren site of my to be construction in 2006 as a 
routine and who thought that I should pay. When he got his answer "I would 
pay provided he was willing to sit in the 'can' for a long time", my 
troubles started, to ultimately land in the den of 40 chors, the Assembly 
including the High Court. And I won hands down. All said and done, most of 
these guys around who are now running behind Anna have learnt their bitter 
lessons, and I have not parted with a single pie as pacification or bribes. 
Anna should see that he is surrounded with such people and not two timers 
and publicity seekers. Gullible students should be careful.  Corruption is a 
cancer. It has to be drastically treated if the body is to survive. And it 
is not as easy as Jan Lokpal Bill. The free radicals must be eliminated as 
soon as they enter the body. Or else, in years to come, it is terminal 
cancer.


Much appreciated, Edwin & Diana. Do maintain your heads on your shoulders, 
because they seem to be strong in their foundation.


Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
www.goasu-raj.org
9890470896


- Original Message - 
From: "Edwin\Diana pinto" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 1:05 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Jan Lokpal Bill - A Panacea for Corruption...?





Jan Lokpal Bill - A Panacea for Corruption...?



Its Palm Sunday for Anna Hazare and his team. The flags are waving, the 
cheers resounding and the air is thick with hope and promise. But when the 
tide of exhilaration ebbs and history looks back upon this time with a 
clarity and objectivity lent by distance, it may well be felt that there 
were no heroes in this drama. All the protagonists were culpable and 
complicit in some way or the other.




The grand finale of course was all of us, worthy citizens of this great 
nation, pouring out into the streets, with our flags, banners and slogans, 
holding vibrant protest meetings, gathering outside Tihar jail, all in 
support of Anna Hazare's anti corruption campaign. The same people who set 
out on pilgrimages to holy places on our MLA and minister's dime, even as 
we expect them to support and fund football tournaments, dances, plays, 
festivals and feasts, Narkasurs and even family obligations. Where these 
politicians are expected to get the money to finance this largesse never 
ever seems to cross our minds.



The energy and enthusiasm that we see today is refreshing and encouraging. 
But our role in democracy cannot be confined to voting once in five years 
and coming out on the streets on emotive issues. It is imperative that we 
consistently participate in our democracy by keeping abreast of current 
issues, implications of Bills that are to be passed in the Parliament and 
Assembly, and most of all engaging with our local MLAs and MPs on an 
ongoing basis, so that they understand clearly that they represent the 
interests of the nation, the state, and the people who elected them, 
rather than their "high command".

Re: [Goanet] How many expat Goans inyour City/country

[Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

To play devil's advocate: just because some villages were better organised
(or more networked) than others, it might give the impression that they
were/are larger in number.

This might not be necessarily true.

Are any statistics maintained in, say, countries like the UK, that give a
person's region of origin? If so, would these show State-wise breakup? I'm
not so much concerned about village backgrounds, ad State-background... for
obvious reasons.

As far as I know, the Government of India probably doesn't have accurate
statistics of Indians located overseas in most parts of the globe, leave
alone State-wise figures. FN

FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm)
#784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org

On 20 August 2011 16:18, Mervyn & Elsie Maciel <
mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As for Village Feast celebrations, Gabe may well be right as far
> as Saligao is concerned, but Saligao and Moira were equally
> popular in those early days, and who knows, Moira may well have
> been a close second or (at the risk of incurring the wrath of Saligaocars),
> even the first!
>

Re: [Goanet] Recipe for Moussaka :: from Alda Figueiredo

[Sister Mhs]

Dear Neil, Annalynn, and Alda Figueiredo,
I too like this dish moussaka, but I cannot cook it.  As I don't know how to.  
May be I could give the receipe to our cook Matthew he is a young cook and 
loves to obligue.  Thank you.   Maxi,rgs.    

From: Sister Mhs 
To: goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: Recipe for Moussaka :: from Alda Figueiredo

Very dear Anthony,  and Alda Figueiredo,
I love this dish
Moussaka,  The recipe sounds delicious!
Thank you and your friend Alda for freely sharng.
Blessing God for you.  Lovingly,  Maxi
Beautiful twilight outside I will going for my walk now.  I could not go out 
earlier, too hot.  Thankfully,  Maxi



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[Goanet] Talking Photos: Green and countryside

[JoeGoaUk]

Talking Photos: Green and countryside
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk41/6060499699/sizes/l/in/photostream/

 
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Badam tree
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Bonus Cityside (Panjim KTC bus stand Circle show)

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Re: [Goanet] What is Independence day

[Gabe Menezes]

On 18 August 2011 04:41, augusto pinto  wrote:

>
>
> I wonder which side they'd be fighting for if Goa, India declares war
> on the Allied Forces. That is if they haven't been put in sheep pens
> like the Japanese in the U.S. during the Second World War.
>
> Cheers
> Augusto
>
>
>
> Augusto Pinto
> 40, Novo Portugal,
> Moira, Bardez,
> Goa, India
> E pinto...@gmail.com or ypinto...@yahoo.co.in
> P 0832-2470336
> M 9881126350
>

RESPONSE: Years ago Norman Tebbit had a litmus test of sorts - known as the
cricket test, in which loyalties would be put to the test. I do support
England in all sports and athletics. Also I served in the Royal Air Force,
after which I was on reserve for a number of years. So my loyalty would not
have come into question. I would not hesitate!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket_test
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] How many expat Goans inyour City/country

[Mervyn & Elsie Maciel]

 Hi Fred,
Speaking of Goans in the London and Outer London
Areas, maybe Stella Mascarenhas-Keyes or even
our Eddie Fernandes(Goan Voice UK), may be the
best to provide you with this info? On the wider U.K. scale, I can't think
of anyone who would have this information. Perhaps Flavio Gracias as
President of the Goan Association(UK)?
   As for Village Feast celebrations, Gabe may well be right as far
as Saligao is concerned, but Saligao and Moira were equally
popular in those early days, and who knows, Moira may well have
been a close second or (at the risk of incurring the wrath of Saligaocars),
even the first!


Mervyn(Maciel)

[Goanet] C O N D O L E N C E S

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CONDOLENCES 
 
The Committee Members and Members of Nuvem Kuwait Parishioners join 
fellow Nuvemkars and expresses deep sympathy and heartfelt condolences to 
Constancio Barreto on the sad demise of his beloved wife, Mrs. JUDY FERNANDES e 
BARRETO.
 
Our sincere prayers to the Almighty God to grant her soul eternal rest and 
solace to the bereaved family.


There will be Eucharistic Celebrations at 6.30 p.m. TODAY (Saturday 20/8/2011) 
at the Holy Family Cathedral Church - Kuwait for the repose of her soul offered 
by her sorrowful family. 
 
The last rites will be held on Monday 22/8/2011 at 9:00 a.m. at the 
JESUS-MARIA-JOSE Church, Nuvem, Goa.

 
NUVEM KUWAIT PARISHIOERS 
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[Goanet] Jan Lokpal Bill - A Panacea for Corruption...?

[Edwin\Diana pinto]

Jan Lokpal Bill - A Panacea for Corruption...?



Its Palm Sunday for Anna Hazare and his team. The flags are waving, the 
cheers resounding and the air is thick with hope and promise. But when the 
tide of exhilaration ebbs and history looks back upon this time with a 
clarity and objectivity lent by distance, it may well be felt that there 
were no heroes in this drama. All the protagonists were culpable and 
complicit in some way or the other.




It started with the UPA II Government, who made it abundantly clear that 
harvesting the ideas, skills and talents of different political parties in 
the interests of drafting an effective Lokpal Bill came a poor second to 
gaining political mileage for themselves. In an undisguised display of 
tokenism, a group representing civil society was invited to collaborate in 
the drafting process of this Bill. They learnt their lesson soon enough, 
when their version was ignored and the government introduced their own 
"joke pal" version in Parliament.




This is when the civil society activists decided that enough was enough. 
They felt that the government had given them justification to appropriate to 
themselves from Parliament the right to make this particular law. Anna 
Hazare made his now famous statement that he "has faith in Parliament but 
not in Members of Parliament," notwithstanding the fact that  it is civil 
society itself that elects these worthies into this hallowed institution. If 
there are doubts about Parliament's ability to frame our laws, then it is 
clear that we need a systemic change even more urgently than a Jan Lokpal 
Bill. And needless to say, it may be pertinent to ask ourselves why we are 
electing Members of Parliament that we have no faith in time and again.




The battle lines were now drawn as UPA II flexed its muscles and arrested 
Anna Hazare in a bid to end his proposed protest fast at Ram Lila grounds, 
even before it began.




This was a heaven sent opportunity to opposition parties, who proceeded to 
milk the situation for all it was worth. BJP luminaries swung into action in 
Parliament and on every TV channel, smirking delightedly as they forcefully 
denounced the government's overbearing arrogance. Strangely though, they 
neglected to enlighten the nation on where exactly their party stood in 
relation to supporting the present Jan Lokpal Bill, or why they did not get 
their own version of the Lokpal Bill passed when they ruled the country in 
the NDA combine during India's "shining" years, or why Bhikhabhai Jethwa, 
father of slain RTI activist Amit Jethwa, had to file a writ petition in the 
Gujarat high court on Thursday against the Narendra Modi government's 
failure to appoint a Lokayukta.




The Communist parties also muscled in for a piece of the action, voicing 
eloquent on the need to curb corruption, completely uninhibited by the 
dismal track record of their own almost thirty year old government in West 
Bengal, that resulted in their decimation in the recent state elections.




Not one to be left out in the cold, Ms. Mayawati of Taj Corridor Case and 
disproportionate assets case fame, has also elbowed her way into the 
limelight vociferously declaring her wholehearted support to Anna Hazare's 
anti corruption campaign.




The grand finale of course was all of us, worthy citizens of this great 
nation, pouring out into the streets, with our flags, banners and slogans, 
holding vibrant protest meetings, gathering outside Tihar jail, all in 
support of Anna Hazare's anti corruption campaign. The same people who set 
out on pilgrimages to holy places on our MLA and minister's dime, even as we 
expect them to support and fund football tournaments, dances, plays, 
festivals and feasts, Narkasurs and even family obligations. Where these 
politicians are expected to get the money to finance this largesse never 
ever seems to cross our minds.




Make no mistake. There is no doubt whatsoever about Anna Hazare's sincerity 
and commitment to the cause and the campaign against corruption. But the 
roots of this issue lie deeper than we think. It is comforting to think that 
the Lokpal Bill will help solve the serious problem of corruption. But we 
have a myriad stiff laws, conspicuous by their non implementation. And where 
do we imagine our political parties will get the mind boggling amounts that 
they need to run state and national elections.




The energy and enthusiasm that we see today is refreshing and encouraging. 
But our role in democracy cannot be confined to voting once in five years 
and coming out on the streets on emotive issues. It is imperative that we 
consistently participate in our democracy by keeping abreast of current 
issues, implications of Bills that are to be passed in the Parliament and 
Assembly, and most of all engaging with our local MLAs and MPs on an ongoing 
basis, so that they understand clearly that they represent the interests of 
the nation, the state, and the people who elec

Re: [Goanet] Want to stave off Alzheimer's-Have a Beer(or Wine)

[Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

And mine is oops, I forgot. Must be getting too old! FN

PS: Is that called Alzhe

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On 20 August 2011 13:12, Mervyn & Elsie Maciel <
mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Folks, mine's a Kenya TUSKER any day, Bwana.
> Cheers.
>
>
>
> Mervyn(Maciel)
>

[Goanet] Press Note (TAG)

[Tiatr Academy Goa]

*Press Note*

*For Favour of Publication*





*Somplolea Tiatristancho Ugddas*

*(Remembering Tiatr Artistes of Yester Years)*





Tiatr Academy Goa organizes a monthly programme dedicated to tiatr artistes
of yester years who are no more living with us. These artistes have
contributed a lot for the development of tiatr, its song and music. Those
veteran tiatr artistes who were born in the month of August, they will be
remembered with a special programme to be organized by Tiatr Academy Goa on
Wednesday, 24th August 2011 at 4:45 pm. at TAG’s Conference Hall, Campal
Trade Centre, Campal Panjim.



The artistes who were born in the month of August are as under:-



*Saib Rocha*

Saib Rocha one of the greatest writers and directors of Konkani tiatr stage
was born on 23rd August 1898. He was one of the few artistes who contributed
to the development of tiatr stage along with Pai Tiatrist Shri. Joao
Agostinho Fernandes. He wrote his first tiatr in 1916 and formed his own
dramatic troupe ‘Union Jack Dramatic Troupe’. From 1916 to 1941 he scripted
31 tiatrs which were very popular. Some of his tiatr are *‘Romeo ani
Juliet’, ‘Dubhavi Ghorkarn’, ‘Gupit Kazar’, ‘Mog ani Krim’,* etc.



*C. Alvares*

Celestinio Alvares popularly known as C. Alvares was born on 1st August
1920. C. Alvares is a legend of tiatr stage who left no stone unturned to
bring the standard of tiatr, its song and music to greater heights. Tiatr
lovers lovingly called him *‘Ace Director of Konkani Stage’* and due to his
versatility in singing duets, he was named *‘King of Duets’. *He has written
and directed more than 100 tiatrs some of which *are ‘Nirddukay’, ‘Ankwar Vo
Kazari’, ‘Jurament’, ‘Kednam Udetolo To Dis’, ‘Gõycho Mog’, *etc.



He was the hero of the two most popular Konkani Films *‘Amchem Noxib’* and *
‘Nirmonn’.*



*Minguel Rod*

Minguel Rod the greatest all rounder of tiatr stage was born on 10th August
1924. A born tiatr artiste he achieved huge success in the promotion of
tiatr, its song and music within a very short life span of 31 years only.



He wrote and directed 27 tiatrs some of which *are ‘Gorib Sezari’, ‘Gorchem
Kestanv’, ‘Lembddo Santan’, ‘Civil Marriage’,* etc. He composed and rendered
over 300 songs some of which can be still heard through All India Radio on
HMV records. Minguel Rod died at a very tender age just 31 years there
creating a vacuum on tiatr stage.





*Alfred Rose*

Alfred Fernandes popularly known as Alfred Rose to his fans was born
on 05thAugust 1932. Alfred Rose is known to his fans in different
names such as ‘
*Golden Voice of **Goa**’*, *‘Melody King’*, etc. He was not only a writer,
lyricist and singer but also an excellent musician.



He has many first to his credit. He has highest number of songs on records
produced by HMV, Colombia and Young India. When the technology of cassettes
appeared on the scene, Alfred Rose was the first to produce as many as 28
audio cassettes. He has also written and directed numerous tiatrs some of
which are *‘Lakhpoti Novro’, ‘Dotor Advogad’, ‘Munis Vo Devchar’, ‘Director
Saib’*, etc. Alfred Rose is responsible to carry Konkani Song to each and
every nook and corner of the world where Goans live.



*Felicio Cardozo*

Felicio Cardozo a freedom fighter, a journalist and a tiatr artiste was born
on 30th August 1932. He edited Konkani newspapers namely ‘Sot’, ‘Divtti’ and
‘Novem Gõy’. He has published books of short stories namely ‘Fulanchi Bhag’,
‘Jugar’, and ‘Nimnni Itsa’.



Being a lover of tiatr he wrote and staged many tiatrs some of which
are *‘Apovnnem’,
‘Mhojea Ixttak Lagon’, “Bhatt Khoim Bhattkar Khoim’,* etc. He was a source
of information about tiatr, its song and music.



*Francis Antonio Fernandes*

Francis Antonio Fernandes a musician of tiatr stage was born on 09th August
1944. He served the tiatr stage by being a member of live musical band as a
drummer. His drumming abilities have helped in the improvement of the
quality of music. He has played drum for numerous tiatrs written by great
artistes of Konkani stage namely C. Alvares, Prem Kumar, Aristides Dias, C.
D’Silva, Premanand Lotlikar, etc.



*Rosary Ferns*

Rosary Ferns a prominent personality of tiatr stage was born on 16th August
1962. He was dedicated artistes who served tiatr stage sincerely for almost
30 years. He was very much instrumental in promoting Goan tiatr in the Gulf
especially in Kuwait where he was employed. He was a good lyricist and a
singer too. He has many audio albums to his credit. He has written and
staged many tiatrs too.



Shri. John Claro Fernandes and Smt. Sharon Mazarello, popular tiatr artistes
will speak on the lives and works of these artistes for the development of
tiatr stage.



Tiatr lovers are invites to attend the function.







*Victor de Sa*

Member Secretary

[Goanet] Combat Colon Polyps and Cancer With This “Ancient Food”

[Con Menezes]

http://www.healthiertalk.com/combat-colon-polyps-and-cancer-ancient-food-4465

[Goanet] Goa Special Status Sabotage

[Arwin Mesquita]

  For the last so many months and years, many Goans have been calling for
Special Status to preserve Goa's Prized Identity. This was even promised by
Sonia Gandhi when she was in Goa campaigning for the Goa Lok Sabha seats.
But some how I feel that Central Government with their Local Party leaders
in Goa, have deceitfully re-worded this to say "Special Status as a
Financial Package"? What is the point of getting Financial Special
Status for Goans if Goans lose Goa? It was the Congress Party which gave the
orders to annex Goa without Goan Views, and at that time promised that Goa's
Identity would be preserved within India. Now this party is doing the very
opposite and conveniently ignoring the true calls for Special Status of
preserving Goa's Identity. Recently I read an article in the media that
Goans are fully Intergrated into India;  I agree only from the point of
excessive corruption, destructive development, degradation of the
environment, pollution of land/water, looting of the state's resources by
Central Politicians and their local Corrupt Political Goan Agents, reduction
of the Goan Demographics to a non-goan populace etc In view of all the
latter, I wonder if susegad Goans (Goa and Overseas) have realised,  that
they been cheated of their land, resources and its Identity for so many
years and if nothing is done now then all these will be gone forever!!

Arwin Mesquita, UAE

-- 
Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/

Please also see below:
1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/
2. "Rape of Goa" : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/
3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/
4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO:
http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html
5. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686
6. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/

[Goanet] Song for the day

[Gabe Menezes]

 you mean everything to me- neil
sedaka
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLaiJZdHB-Q
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

Re: [Goanet] How many expat Goans in your city/country?

[Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا]

On 20 August 2011 03:09, Gabe Menezes  wrote:

> Hey this is one for Mrs Selma Carvalho?


No. As you know statistician John Nazareth has been trying to put together
some figures of Goan migration overseas. This is an academic exercise,
which, I guess, others could eventually build on.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/5958535672/sizes/l/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/5958535850/sizes/l/in/photostream/

He mentioned in a recent email that he didn't get a good response to the
figures he had put out earlier. So I'm trying to stoke the discussion.

As for Selma, she was in Vasco (Vasku, as Pandu Lampiao would put it) when
we last spoke. If you find her writing on FN Souza, then you might suspect
that I showed her the house where Souza grew up or holidayed in Saligao. And
also that I might not agree with her views on his youth here :-) FN

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Re: [Goanet] US Bank prime rates in the Eighties.

[Gabe Menezes]

On 20 August 2011 00:30, Roland Francis  wrote:

> Gabe, yours is an opinion I disagree with totally.
>
> Your advice seems to be directed at overseas Goans. I will show why it's a
> bad idea to invest in Rupee FDs in any Indian bank, whether the purpose is
> to eventually spend the money in India or repatriate it to its origin.
>
> For example SBI offers 9.25% for a 2 year term.
> The Indian inflation rate (if you believe official figures) is currently
> 8.62%. That gives an effective yield of 0.63% on your investment. That
> would
> not please anyone.
>
> RESPONSE: My Comment was for those in Goa and Gulf Goans intending to
return to India. Exchange risk is a big factor, yes I agree. In Sterling
terms the Rupee has appreciated from over 85 Rs to at one point under 70 Rs.

The Canadian Dollar has done well, very well but that's on the back of being
a commodity currency, same as the Aussie Dollar. These are cycles and cannot
continue indefinitely. I remember very well years ago when the Swiss Franc
was getting so strong that the Swiss Central Bank introduced negative
interest rates for Holders of SFR. It may do this again if there are no
options left on the table.

Lastly I have faith in the economy of India and China, can't put a good dog
down. The depreciation we have seen is the outflow of funds invested in the
stock market. For perhaps the next three of four years - see sideways
movement in the West and a gradual improvement in the BRIC countries while
all the adjustments needed take place.

> --
> DEV BOREM KORUM
>
> Gabe Menezes.
>
>


-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] Psychologist Says Meditation Is The Best Way To Prevent Stress, Illness | Easy Health Options

[Con Menezes]

http://www.easyhealthoptions.com/alternative-medicine/psychologist-says-meditation-is-the-best-way-to-prevent-stress-illness/

[Goanet] WHY IS GOA’S ARCHBISHOP EMBARRASSED TO DEPOSE IN COURT?

[Aires Rodrigues]

In his plea to the Court, to be exempted from deposing in the 2004
Ribandar Church case proceedings, the Archbishop of Goa Filipe Neri
Ferrao has accused me of having sought to have him summoned only to
embarrass him. The Archbishop has however not substantiated this
allegation. May I clarify that I have always held Rev Ferrao in high
esteem not because he is related to me but also for the warm and
upright individual he is as a person.

However, in an era of transparency and accountability, there should
not be a cover up. In the affairs of the Ribandar Church in 2004 the
Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao chose to look the other way, though I
had personally met him and had given him complete details of the
misdemeanour of his priest Father Newton Rodrigues. As the head of the
Catholic Church he ought to have cracked the whip and cleansed our
Parish.

We can only sympathise with the Archbishop for the state of the
helplessness that he finds himself in. The Archdiocese of Goa is not
immune to the malady of factionalism, groupism and thirst for power
that afflicts other institutions. Furthermore, the unholy nexus
between the Church and the Politicians does more damage than good.

Fifteen of Ribandar’s parishioners have had to face the brunt of a
false case filed by the Ribandar Church. We have spent seven long
years defending the alleged trespass that never happened. The Police
took 33 months to investigate a petty case like this. This case was
the only tool  that the authorities could use to harass me, but it
will not cow me down from standing for what is right. By the Grace of
Almighty God, my determination, perseverance and patience shall always
be of steel.

The Ribandar Church case speaks for itself. We have been persecuted
for standing by a 13 year old girl who was allegedly molested on
church premises by the then Parish Priest, Father Newton Rodrigues,
who has now moved to Canada. He has shied away from and dodged the
Court cleverly. In fact, he had an opportunity to vindicate himself
but chose not to, because he might not have been able to. This
resulting inference is not a whimsical conjecture.

The Law requires that the Prosecution proves every case beyond
reasonable doubt. But if even an iota of evidence is established that
I had in any way breached the law on 16th August 2004 at the Ribandar
Church I would volunteer to face the most stringent punishment.

The proceedings of the 2004 Ribandar Church case will soon come an
end. But the memories of this seven year ordeal will not easily fade.
Definitely remembered will be His Grace the Archbishop of Goa for
failing to gracefully comply with the Court summons, a duty which is
required of every citizen.

Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao may have chosen to remain mum on the
affairs at the Ribandar church but he definitely cannot, for too long,
be a mere spectator to the alleged corruption in the administration of
the Catholic Church, in areas of finance, property, artifacts and
various other scandals. As the dirt beneath the carpets is oozing out,
like every other Catholic I can only wish, the Reverend Archbishop of
Goa all the very best in any clean-up operation he may decide to
embark on. Archbishop Ferrao may  be embarrassed to have me in his
long list of relatives. There is nothing I can do about it. “You can
chose your friends but not your relatives” as the saying goes.

Aires Rodrigues
T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat
Ribandar - Goa - 403006
Mobile: 9822684372

[Goanet] Want to stave off Alzheimer's-Have a Beer(or Wine)

[Mervyn & Elsie Maciel]

Folks, mine's a Kenya TUSKER any day, Bwana.
Cheers.



Mervyn(Maciel)

Re: [Goanet] How many expat Goans in your city/country?

[Cyprian Fernandes]

Fred, Australia is a happy place. From the moment you arrive here with a young 
family, life and society
ensures the togetherness of the family. Perhaps more than anywhere else, 
parents tend to spenda lot more time with their children: sport at weekends is 
the big thing, tennis, cricket, rugby union,rugby league, swimming, surfing, 
the list is endless. Both parents need to drive as well as car pool. We seem a 
pretty contented bunch who always happy to meet, chat, and eat. Who is cooking 
what?And how? What is the secret ingredient. Variations on the themes, food is 
all the talk at most gatherings. We are comfortable with our religion and our 
politics, there is no need to go on a fastunto death in Australia. Most kids 
have grown up and are now fathering their own children. They hold pretty good 
jobs andare recognised for their skill, intellect, drive, creativity, 
leadership and honest hard work. They are the equal of the best Australia and 
the world has to offer and are at home in any corner of the world. I guest it 
has something to do with the weather, the sun does shine for us. I guess the 
only problem, if it is a problem, is the greying process. Most GOA NSW members 
are nowapproaching retirement. The younger generation, unlike those brilliant 
young adults in Canada, are nottaking up the cudgels of club membership. Like 
the local church, club functions have the appearance ofa seniors' social. There 
are certainly fears for the future of the club. On the other hand, most young 
folk marry outside their communities and everyone is very happy aboutthat. 
There is a quiet assimilation taking place. Thank God I am alive in Australia. 
Love it.
 > From: skip...@live.com.au
> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:03:44 +1030
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] How many expat Goans in your city/country?
> 
> 
> Hey Fred, Around 1200 families in NSW. No exact figures available. Cyprian
>  > From: fredericknoron...@gmail.com
> > Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 22:15:45 +0530
> > To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
> > Subject: [Goanet] How many expat Goans in your city/country?
> > 
> > Hello Goanetters,
> > 
> > Could you share any estimates of the number of expat Goans who live in your
> > city or country? Would appreciate if you could send the figures (even
> > estimates would do) via Goanet or personal email, with permission to cite.
> > Thanks! FN
> > 
> > PS: What do you see as the major issues facing Goans there currently?
> > --
> > FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org
> > Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha
> 
  

Re: [Goanet] Goans in Canada

[floriano]

Take away half  for under 18 years of age, that still makes a full 41st 
Constituency of Goa.
With NRI voting rights for 2012 Elections, Goa's electioneering could be a 
totally different one.
Let GRA/GSRP be the first one to put an election banners across the Toronto 
streets.

:-)
Cheers
floriano
www.goasu-raj.org

PS: Political mind thinks, talks, drinks and sleeps politics. U!

- Original Message - 
From: "Roland Francis" 

To: "'Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!'" 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 4:17 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Goans in Canada



Total population of Goans in Canada is slightly less than 40,000, of whom
90% are established in Toronto and the other 10% being mainly in Montreal
and Vancouver although there are scatterings in Calgary, Edmonton, 
Winnipeg,

and Halifax.
Roland.

Re: [Goanet] How many expat Goans in your city/country?

[Gabe Menezes]

2011/8/19 Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا <
fredericknoron...@gmail.com>

> Hello Goanetters,
>
> Could you share any estimates of the number of expat Goans who live in your
> city or country? Would appreciate if you could send the figures (even
> estimates would do) via Goanet or personal email, with permission to cite.
> Thanks! FN
>
> PS: What do you see as the major issues facing Goans there currently?
> --
> FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org
> Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha
>

RESPONSE: Four thousand families in Greater London; for the greater part
Goans are well integrated into the local community - problems would
therefore be the same as suffered by the locals. We probably have around 10
Village Feasts celebrated here in London; the biggest probably by the Union
of Navelim. One of the first was probably Saligao, please correct me if I am
wrong!

Hey this is one for Mrs Selma Carvalho?

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

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[Goanet] OBITUARY: JUDY FERNANDES e BARRETO (KUWAIT/NUVEM, GOA)

[Goa-World.com]

S e-NEWSLETTER (since 1994)®  www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/   
www.goa-world.com   http://www.goa-world.com/goa/credit%5Ccredit.htm    
 



 
O B I T U A R Y









 


Mrs. JUDY FERNANDES e BARRETO
(Fawaz Refrigerator & Aircoditioning Co Kuwait)

(Nuvem, Mujer/Murda Grande-GOA) 
Expired on 18/8/2011 Kuwait. 


Beloved wife of Constancio Barreto (KTSC)
 
Loving Daughter of Pascaela Fernandes & Late Paxeao Fernades,  Loving 
daughter-in law of Josepha Berreto & Late Cyrilo Berreto;
 Loving sister/sister-in-law of Jycila/Sherebon Jose Fernandes.
  Loving sister/sister-in law of Wilfred/Malisa Barreto, 
Claver/Catherina Barreto   
 Soccorina/Francis D'Souza  
Lourdes/Savio Fernandes, 
Rosy Barreto & Judas.
Last viewing of the mortal remains at New Sabah Hospital Morgue - Shuwaikh 
(Today, Saturday 20/08/2011) at 9:30 a.m. 
Followed by the Eucharistic Celebrations at 6.30 p.m.  (TODAY)
at Holy Family Cathedral Church - Kuwait for the repose of her soul.



The funeral and last rites will be held on Monday 22/8/2011 at 9:00 a.m. 
at the JESUS-MARIA-JOSE Church, Nuvem, Goa.


Relatives and friends kindly accept this as the only intimation.

 
May her soul rest in peace.
 




 
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Re: [Goanet] Re : What is Independence Day ?

[Cyprian Fernandes]

That has been the eternal proof, few have answered the challenge!I think our 
children, families came first Cyprian
 > From: drferdina...@hotmail.com
> To: goa...@goanet.org; i...@goanet.org
> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 17:46:03 +0530
> Subject: [Goanet] Re : What is Independence Day ?
> 
> 
> The Goans who say they are Indians first
> and Goans later, and are coolly sitting in a third nation serving the adopted
> nation and eating their crumbs are HIPOCRITES of the first order. It is not 
> enough
> to just say “I am Indian first” just because you have been told by your 
> parents
> or grandparents. Come down to Goa and serve the nation, and join the equally
> hypocrite BBSM who say “I have no right over my grandchildren, but every right
> over your children!”  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
> 
> Bernado Colaco
> 
>   Thu, 18 Aug 2011 02:56:01 -0700
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Goans are faced with North Korea regime for the past 50 years. How can they 
> secede if they are brain washed on a daily basis. Allow the truth to be told 
> and then see the claims for secession.
> 
> BC
> 
> 
> It would be interesting to know exactly how many Goan Indian citizens 
> who reside in Goa consider themselves non-Indian, and want to secede 
> from India. My guess is there are not enough to hold a solitary chicken 
> coop or outhouse in battle. 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
  

Re: [Goanet] US Bank prime rates in the Eighties.

[Roland Francis]

Gabe, yours is an opinion I disagree with totally.

Your advice seems to be directed at overseas Goans. I will show why it's a
bad idea to invest in Rupee FDs in any Indian bank, whether the purpose is
to eventually spend the money in India or repatriate it to its origin.

For example SBI offers 9.25% for a 2 year term.
The Indian inflation rate (if you believe official figures) is currently
8.62%. That gives an effective yield of 0.63% on your investment. That would
not please anyone.

For overseas investors, it is not Indian inflation rate that is of
consequence but the rupee conversion, since the money is intended to be
repatriated.
Taking latest figures, from 20th July 2011 to 18th Aug 2011, (one month) the
Indian rupee fell by 2.70% against the USD. Annualize that and assume the
trend may continue and it jumps off the paper. Certainly overshadows the
9.25% interest rate you are getting. Huge exchange risk. Not to mention the
results to your investment if you get caught with an Indian currency
devaluation should the country want to make it fully convertible, during the
term of the FD.

Either way not a good investment. Savvy people in India will look elsewhere
in the markets to get a better yield, even if not guaranteed, and savvy
people overseas will not consider the abovementioned exchange risks worth
taking, assuming they can repatriate their money (which they probably cannot
in the type of account that is able to get those rates).

You have my opinion. Now please explain how you see it.

Roland.
Toronto.


 

-Original Message-
From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org
[mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of Gabe Menezes
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 9:41 AM
To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!
Subject: [Goanet] US Bank prime rates in the Eighties.

With markets in a tizzy put your money in a State owned Indian Bank with a
yield of 8 percent plus that's in Rupees of course.

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.