[Goanet-News] Goanet Reader: When a friendly editor cured stammering... (Willy Goes, interviewed by Remediana Dias)
Artist-writer-musician and more Willy Goes [willyg...@rediffmail.com] believes in giving life his best, because to him life is an echo. It all comes back. Give it your best and the best will come to you, he says. He graduated from the Goa College of Art in 1986. He works full time as a teaching faculty in the Department of Applied Art at Goa College of Art and writes part time. His wife is a teacher and his son is studying in XI Arts at Don Bosco Higher Secondary. He speaks to Remediana 'Remy' Dias [remy_dias2...@yahoo.com] about his humble beginnings and his love for writing. RD: Tell us about your life and how it all began? - I began working when I was studying in Std. VIII. I was about fourteen years old then. I worked along with my father in The Navhind Times as a photo engraver. In those days the printing technology was different. If a photograph had to be printed, it had to be chemically engraved into a zinc plate. In common terms it was known as 'block making'. Then when Navhind Times switched over to the modern 'offset printing' technology, I was the first one to operate the offset process camera. When I was doing this, I simultaneously worked as a photojournalist for Navprabha and Navhind Times. I also handled photojournalist assignments for Goa Today. I was very active as a photojournalist during the Konkani agitation. I also contributed to the international news agency Reuters around this time. Simultaneously, I have also handled design assignments for various book covers, folders, brochures, etc. The very next year after my graduation (in 1986) I started teaching at the Goa College of Art as a part0time lecturer. During this time I did theatre too. In 1990, I was assigned a Drawing Teacher's job in Padi-Barcem which is about sixty kilometers from Panjim. I would travel to and from everyday. After coming back to Panjim, I continued with the lectures at Goa College of Art. In 1993 I was appointed at the Goa College of Art as full time lecturer, and I have been teaching at the art college ever since. RD: Have you received any awards in recognition for your work? - I have received several awards for art before I began writing. I have received State Art Awards for photography and graphic design in 1985, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1990 Ever since I have been writing, I have received Dalgado Konknni Akademi Awards for manuscripts of my novels 'Kantto' and 'Kotrin'. The Konknni Bhasha Mandal conferred their prestigious Sahitya Puraskar (Literary Award) for my novella 'Khand' in 2006. Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendra, the Konknni research institution in Porvorim, awarded me with the prestigious Jack Sequeira Konknni Puroskar 2012 for my contribution to Konkani language through literature. I was invited to participate and present papers at many state level and national level literary seminars in Goa, Mangalore and New Delhi. I served as a member of the Konkani Advisory Board of Sahitya Akademi, New Delhi from 2008 to 2012. Sahitya Akademi is the premiere institution of the Central government established to strengthen Indian literature in all languages. RD: When, where, why and how did you being your journey as a writer? - I started reading at a very young age when I found a book which was probably thrown out by somebody. It was a book about Robin Hood and his adventures. I can say that it was by accident that I started reading and I fell in love with reading. As I read those stories, I began to create stories in my mind. As I grew up, and reading became one of my hobbies, I began to ask myself, why couldn't I write too? But then, by being young, I was immature at that time. In the early nineties I joined the Jaycees, and it helped me know myself better, and it also helped me realise my potentials. I was made the editor of the Panjim Jaycees Bulletin, for which I wrote a couple of edits. Then I helped Fr. James D'Costa to start the Parish Bulletin of St. John of the Cross Church, Sanquelim. I wrote a piece or two for the bulletin. By then my son Lesly was growing. As a toddler, he would insist that I tell him a story before going to bed. Soon I ran out of stories and had to create stories. He would give me characters and force me to create stories, and I would be compelled to do so. By this time the writing bug was bugging me. I wanted to be a writer. One day I read in the Navhind Times that the daily was organizing a writers' workshop. The workshop was to be conducted by the well-known Goan novelist Victor Rangel-Ribeiro. Aspiring participants were asked to
[Goanet] Fwd: Song for the day....
john coltrane johnny hartman / my one and only love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecrE80rnjhw -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Irmanv vo Uncle? Konnanchem Sarkem?
Irmanv vo Uncle? Konnanchem Sarkem? Ghelea atvoddeant, eka lagxilea ixttan mhojea lagim ek kard dilem. Tem kard, mhojeach porim, dorek Son’varak Kuwaitche Igorjent Misak ajir zatolea mon’xa lagim sanjechea 6.30 voram Misa uprant dinvchem aslem. Misak bhair sorchea adim fon kelo. “Hello”, tannem zap keli “Mhojea lagim tuka divnchelem, ek kard asa. Ani tem kard divpi Shri Albino”. “Yes, yes yes. Tannem mhaka kolit kelam tujea lagim ditam mhunn” “Tor tum mhaka khoim melltolo? Tachi ani mhoji vollok naslolean hanvem vicharlem” “Igorjechea samkara, uktea moidanar mhoji kallea rongachi Ford Escape gaddi park kortam” “Hoi, hoi, hoi!!! Hanvuim thoinch mhoji gaddi park kortam” “Punn hanv tuka koso vollkotolom? Eka mekachi vollok naslolean mhojea porim, tachoi proxn”. “Chodd sompem. (Hanvem moskoreamni mhontlem) Mhojea khodd’deak zoborxe kens nam. Konnui khodd’do dislear Irmanv mhunn zap korchi. Atam hanv Misak vochunk bhair sortam. Ani aik….”,.fuddem ulovpak mobilache battrin gud nite keli. Mis somptanch beg-begim igorjentlo hanv bhair sorlom ani nitt mhojea gaddexim vetana mhaka eka mon’xan zap keli. “Irmanv…” “Mr. Fernandes koso asa…?” taka fuddem ulounk dinastana hanvem mhontlem. “Tum mhojem nanv koso zanna gi?” Tannem ojeapun vicharlem. “Tumchem nanv mhojea lagim dilolea kardar boroilolem asa. Rav rav ghevn yetam”. Ani hanv gaddexim vetana, tannem mhontlem. “Koslem kard gi?” Tachea hatant kard dilem. Tannem hartun-portun kard pollelem. Tachea sangata tachi ghorkarnn ani lhan cheddum por aslem. Ghov-bail eka mekachea tonddak polloit urlim. “Irmanv, hem mhojem kard nhi. Mhojem nanv D. Fernandes. Diogo Fernandes. Hea kardar Mr Mrs. F. Fernandes asai gi” “Thoddea vela adim hanv tujea lagim fonar uloilam. Ani tuka fonar kolit kelam, mhojea toklek kens nam ani khodd’do monis dislear tunvem irmanv mhunn zap korchi”. “Saiba, ami Mungllurkaram, vhoddilank ani zantteank aba vo irmanv mhunntat gi”Tachi ghorkarnn uloili. “Irmanv tuka ulo korchem kharana mhonllear, amchi gaddichi battery down zali. Matxe tuji gaddichi battery lait gi”. Gaddi chalu zali. Tannim mhoje upkar attoit gaddi giyerant gatli. Thoddea vella adim zal’lea goddnecher hanv niyallunk laglom. Onvollki (vollok pallok naslolea) zanttelea mon’xak zap kortana, Mungllukaram irmanv mhonnon zap kortat. Punn ami Gõykar, konnui onvollki monis to zaum, paicho bhav zalolea porim onkel vo uncle mhonntat. Dekhun, mhaka mellunk zai aslolea mon’xak irmanv mhonnon vollok korchi mhunn suchnna kel’li. Punn hangsaro dusrench goddlem. Lagsar konnui dista zalear nodor firaili. Konn dislo nam. Punn, sumar vis miteram pois mobilache ankdde sonspotolea eka mon’xak pollelo. Tajexim vochun mhojea mobilachi poristithi sangli, ani upkaran ek fon number dial korpak taka vinoylem. Tannem aplo fon bolsant ghatlo ani laginch aslolea ostorecho (uprant gomlem tachi ghorkarnn mhunn) fon magun mhaka mhontlem. “Fon number sang” “O my God!” “Kitem zalem uncle?” Kedovcho Mungllukaran irmanv mhontlem ani ho Gõykar uncle mhonntalo “Rav rav…mhozo fon dead zala. Fon number motorin asa” Sottasot gaddiexim vochun kardar boroilolo fon taka sanglo. 90953071. Khinna bhitor tachea bolsant aslolo fon vazlo. “Darling, tuzo fon vazta”Bolsantlo fon vazta mhunn ghorkannin kolit kelem “Arre uncle, ho mhozo fon number mure?” “Toxem zalear hem kard tumchem…” Lino B. Dourado
[Goanet] Mull ani Bull
Mervyn Lobo: I am based in Toronto, Canada. I am not sure where you are based but I can assure you that caste is a huge factor in the peculiar type of Christianity as practiced by Goans. Just in case, just in case you are not aware of it, here is a link that will update you, with every agonizing detail, how caste and Christianity go hand in glove in India. Response: I trust you understand the difference between there is no caste in Christianity and certain christians practising casteism. If not, please refer to the Bible. Regards Marshall
[Goanet] 3 pols x 3 wonks= ? Answer: 1, 250 million in a leaky boat
U. G. Barad: I found this article to be informative hence sharing with Goanet members. http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/3-pols-x-3-wonks-113083001196_1.html Response: I have to ask you just one question. Why did the other parties, including your favourite BJP, then support this bill? Are they not party to this decision? Are they too not accountable for this? Had the Bill been passed with the BJP voting against, I could understand your angst. regards, Marshall
[Goanet] Francisco D’Souza of Cognizant,
August 31, 2013 Francisco D’Souza of Cognizant, on Finding Company Heroes By ADAM BRYANT This interview with Francisco D’Souza, chief executive of the information technology company Cognizant, was conducted and condensed by Adam Bryant. Francisco D'Souza, C.E.O. of the information technology company Cognizant, says an organization's culture is passed along via its rituals, legends and heroes. That's why it has corporate celebrations with entertainment and awards. www.nytimes.com/2013/09/01/business/francisco-dsouza-of-cognizant-on-finding-company-heroes.html --- eugene
[Goanet] HUDCO FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO GOA OF 2130.90 CRORES
SHANTARAM NAIK M.P1/9/2013 602, BRAHMAPUTRA, Dr. B.D. Marg, New Delhi 09868181344 09422439990 *HUDCO has committed financial assistance of Rs. 2130.91 crore to 40 housing and infrastructure projects with total project cost of Rs. 2853.72 crore in Goa- Dr Vyas informs Shantaram* * * *FOR THE FAVOUR OF PUBLICATION* Union Minister for Housing and Urban Poverty Allevation, Dr (MS) Girija Vyas informed Mr Shantaram Naik in a written reply on the question of HUDCO loan to Goa that HUDCO has provided financial assistance for various categories of housing and various infrastructure sector projects in the State of Goa and that, so far , HUDCO has committed financial assistance of Rs. 2130.91 crore to 40 housing and infrastructure projects with total project cost of Rs. 2853.72 crore in the state. HUDCO has released loan amount of Rs. 261.79 crore in these projects based on the documentation and physical progress achieved, she said. Dr Vyas gave details of agency ,types of schemes, Scheme name ,Project Cost and Loan amounts for the various projects of Council of scientific and Industrial Research ,Economic Development Corporation, Goa Housing Board , Mapusa Urban Cooperative Bank Ltd. Urban Housing , Swapnaganda Resorts Private Limited Commercial Extension, Goa State Infrastructure Development, Mormugao Port, Goa Port Trust, Panaji Municipal Corporation , ,Public Works Department, Government of Goa. Sewerage Infrastructure Development Corporation of Goa Limited , for which HUDCO ia committed to fund. Xx * * *CENTRAL GOVT CONFIRMS ADVISORY GIVEN TO GOA ON ENTRY TAX * Union Minister of State for Road Transport and Highways has in a written reply given to Shri Shantaram Naik M.P on his question on enry tax imposed in Goa said that after the imposition of Entry Tax by Government of Goa with effect from 22.04.2013 on vehicles entering into Goa from outside States, an advisory dated 16.05.2013 was issued to Government of Goa to withdraw undue levy of taxes / fee including the Entry Tax for facilitating inter-state seamless movement of goods carriage as envisaged under the New National Permit System introduced by the Government of India with effect from 08.05.2010.
[Goanet] POLICE POSTS APPOINTMENT TO BE SCRUTINIZED
To, The Editor Navhind Times Panjim Please publish this this letter in the Letters to the Editor column. Regard. Stephen Dias, D.Paula POLICE APPOINTMENT POSTS NEEDS TO BE SCRUTINEZED Candidates for cops appointments for the Police Station in Goa, the CM and the Govt administration should ensure that these selection should be made strictly based on their moral character and their social background or else these candidates may lend up raping girls in Goa as there have been many such cases already taken place all over the country. Stephen Dias,D.Paula
[Goanet] Mull ani Bull
My thanks to Santosh for the very informative links; they widened the horizons of an ill-read person like me. Some twelve years ago I had attended a camp on Dalit Issues at the Ecumenical Centre, Bangalore. The participants were mainly Dalit pastors and seminarians belonging to different Christian denominations from Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Andhra and Orissa. I was the only Catholic. It was there that I leaned for the first time that in Tamil Nadu there are separate churches and cemeteries for Dalits. I formed the impression that this was the case with non-Catholic denominations alone, and that it is only in Goa that a Catholic priest can arrogantly declare, Fr. X, I don’t know what your caste is; but I am a Bamon right in the Paco Patriarcal! I don’t know whether our own Archbishop himself has made such a statement. Today I know I was grossly mistaken; I have learned that as late as the year 2000, the superannuated Archbishop (Arulappa) of Hyderabad criticized the Vatican for promoting a Dalit Bishop (Joji) as his successor, claiming that the Vatican did not know the ground realities in Hyderabad! This means that casteism is rampant in the Catholic Church even outside Goa. The Dalit Archbishop proved his predecessor wrong by living up to the trust reposed in him by the Holy See with a highly distinguished tenure until his sad demise in 2010. Please see: http://www.dalitchristians.com/Html/P_ApointmentFirstDalitBishop.htm and http://www.persecution.in/content/gcic-condoles-death-first-dalit-archbishop-marampudi-joji-hyderabad I would like to draw Marshall's attention to the statement by Shri Guptanath Singh in the Constituent Assembly: I want Sir, that those classes who are the backbone of Indian society agricultural, pastoral or artisan classes - though they are not counted as scheduled Castes or Tribes should be given some opportunities to serve in government services. You have already accepted the proposal to appoint a commission to study and investigate their conditions. If you insert words to the effect that those wretched people will be given some chance it would be better for the country. They will prove to be most honest and efficient national servants. I hope they will consider the points I have raised and prove to the agricultural and pastoral classes, whose condition is worse than that of the Harijans and Adibasis, that they are going to to something for them and assure them that they would get their opportunities to serve the country.Do the terms government services, national servants, serve the country refer to seats in legislative bodies? It is true that he was not referring to Christiansspecifically, as that was not expected of him. This was expected of the Christian representatives, but they reckoned that it was none of their concern as it was no skin off their back and the neglected group was, anyway, one that they themselves despised, their fake egalitarianism notwithstanding. Marshall claims that Fr Jerome's statement that there is no caste in Christianity is factual. It is not factual even in the twenty-first century. In fact, the statement is a cruel joke, a fraud perpetrated on the depressed castes among the Indian Christians. If there are no castes in Christianity, whence the Christian Dalits for whom the Churches/Bishops are demanding special rights on par with Hindu Scheduled Castes? Why are these being denied equality within the church itself even to this day? Assuming that the demand is conceded by the Government of India, how will it be implemented? How will a Christian Dalit avail of its benefits, especially one whose forefathers were converted over a hundred years ago? Who will issue him his Caste Certificate? On what basis? Marshall says, This Act was overturned in 1950, under the influence of hindutva elements, whereby a Presidential Order was passed restricting the reservations and benefits only to Hindus. All other religions were cut off. After fighting this discrimination for many years, first the Sikhs in 1959 and then the Buddhists in 1990 were extended the reservations and benefits. It may be noted that both Buddhism and Sikhism are egalitarian religions and do not recognise castes just like Christianity and Islam. However this was the logic given for excluding Christian and Muslim dalits. Was the President connected with the Constituent Assembly in any way? Was he acquainted with the sentiments expressed by the Christian members? Was he aware that the Christian members had committed the interests of their community into the hands of the majority community for being dealt fair and square? If the answer to these questions is in the affirmative, how did he forget this so soon? How did he come under the influence of hindutva elements? Does this not reflect on the wisdom of the Christian representatives? Does it not stem from the great lie that there are no castes in Christianity as propagated by the upper caste Christians for their own benefit? And
[Goanet] What you're missing out...
... if you're not on Goanet@Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/goanet/ I can assure you, there are less cranky old men like me out there :-) FN -- FN Land +91-832-240-9490 Cell +91-982-212-2436 f...@goa-india.org
Re: [Goanet] HUDCO FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO GOA OF 2130.90 CRORES
This is fine for your Congress-versus-BJP polemics, but what about those visiting Goa paying for the infrastructure they use? Those travelling out of Goa could be likewise charged. Otherwise, we end up with a situation where airports for the rich (not one, but two) get hugely subsidised, while food guarantees for the poor are subjected to all kinds of questioning. FN On 1 September 2013 12:39, Shantaram Naik shantaram...@gmail.com wrote: Union Minister of State for Road Transport and Highways has in a written reply given to Shri Shantaram Naik M.P on his question on enry tax imposed in Goa said that after the imposition of Entry Tax by Government of Goa with effect from 22.04.2013 on vehicles entering into Goa from outside States, an advisory dated 16.05.2013 was issued to Government of Goa to withdraw undue levy of taxes / fee including the Entry Tax for facilitating inter-state seamless movement of goods carriage as envisaged under the New National Permit System introduced by the Government of India with effect from 08.05.2010. FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org
Re: [Goanet] HUDCO FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO GOA OF 2130.90 CRORES
Is this assistance or loans? FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f f...@goa-india.org On 1 September 2013 12:39, Shantaram Naik shantaram...@gmail.com wrote: *HUDCO has committed financial assistance of Rs. 2130.91 crore to 40 housing and infrastructure projects with total project cost of Rs. 2853.72 crore in Goa- Dr Vyas informs Shantaram*
Re: [Goanet] Mull ani Bull
I am sorry I cannot do anything about the fact that the respondent below continues to engage in rhetoric and insults. I am interested in knowing how the constitutional notion of Scheduled Castes and tribes came into being in Indian history. In response to the said respondent's prior rhetorical question, Prof. Borges provided factual information and links to two debates of the Constituent Assembly. I provided facts reported by three genuinely well-informed professionals of different backgrounds, based on their own independent research - the first a Jesuit priest, scholar and professor (Fr. Izzo), the second a human rights activist (Madhu Chandra) and the third a journalist (Sunil Dasgupta). From the standpoint of an objective rational person all this information would be much more trustworthy and reliable compared to the long-winded interpretations, speculations, insinuations and rhetorical questions contained in the respondent's latest post appended below, especially, given the fact that the claims in his earlier posts in this thread were shown to be false. Therefore, in order to properly stack up his credibility against that of Fr. Izzo, Chandra and Dasgupta, I would kindly request him to provide historical evidence to support his own prior and current speculations. Now as far as my own task and interest are concerned I have accessed information that answers the following questions: 1. Were Dalits belonging to Christian and other religious minorities ever included in the Scheduled Castes list at any time before the Presidential Order of 1950, as the respondent seems to imply? 2. Did the Christian members of the Constituent Assembly petition, lobby, ask or insist that Dalit Christians be included in the Scheduled Castes list drawn up in the Presidential Order of 1950? (Did they object to, or recognize as unfair, the fact that Dalit Christians were not included in the Scheduled Castes list at any time before or after the Presidential Order was issued?) The answer to each of these questions is NO. Here is the evidence. 1. Scheduled castes were always recognized to include only Hindu Dalits even before 1950, and expressly exclude Christian Dalits. Please see this Scheduled Castes order of 1936: http://www.anagrasarkalyan.gov.in/compendium/part-1_page9-24.pdf Here is a quote: QUOTE 3. Notwithstanding anything in the last preceding paragraph— (a) No Indian Christian shall be deemed to be a member of a Scheduled Caste; UNQUOTE 2. Scheduled Castes were defined as a section of the Hindu community in the first Minority Rights Report in 1947, and accepted as an amendment in the assembly. Here is a quote regarding this in one of the assembly debates: QUOTE 1-A. The section of the Hindu community referred to as Scheduled Castes as defined in Schedule I to the Government of India Act, 1935, shall have the same rights and benefits which are herein provided for minorities specified in the Schedule to para. 1 UNQUOTE ..K. M. Munshi Please see: http://parliamentofindia.nic.in/ls/debates/vol5p8b.htm 3. The fact that Scheduled Castes were recognized and accepted as distinct from Christians and other religious minorities by the members of the Constituent Assembly, including the Christian members is clear from the following quote of H. C. Mookherjee, the lead Christian representative, in one of the debate links provided by Prof. Borges: QUOTE ...let me point out once again that the Scheduled Castes have been given reservation not on grounds of religion at all; they form part and parcel of the Hindu Community, and they have given reservation apparently and clearly on grounds of their economic, social educational backwardness. UNQUOTE ..H. C. Mookherjee Please see: http://www.indiankanoon.org/doc/790979/ Cheers, Santosh - Original Message - From: Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com Response: While ignoring the usual bird brained and juvenile opening remarks which we have now got accustomed to, I will focus on the more substantive issues. I found the rest of the below post quite interesting. However, there do not address the statement made by Prof Borges. and there are several gaps which need to be filled. 1 The below post scores high on verbosity and rhetoric but low on substance. All the quotations attributed to Fr Jerome in the below post have all come from third parties or hearsay. If Fr Jerome did state all these words attributed to him, surely there would be some original documents available to corroborate and verify just like the documents posted by Prof Borges. Is it possible for Santosh to post records (weblinks) of the actual debate when these so-called quotations were uttered. These would be far more reliable. Otherwise, they appear to be an outcome of a game called Chinese Whispers which we used to play as children. ( for those not familiar with the game or its meaning, please refer to the foll weblink):
[Goanet] For non-vegetarians (which exclude me)
My friend and former boss John Thomas send me this link today (sharing here, though I think it has been posted on Goanet earlier too): Our Lady of Salvation Church Fete: Salutsav 2013 - Priest Band singing Sorpotel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wETzHqMf7PE Is this a version of Furtado's original poem? -- FN Land +91-832-240-9490 Cell +91-982-212-2436 f...@goa-india.org
[Goanet] ADVOCATE GENERAL OF GOA ATMARAM NADKARNI SHOULD QUIT
http://www.epaperoheraldo.in/Details.aspx?id=10786boxid=15545437uid=dat=9/1/2013 After the tongue lashing by the Supreme Court, the flamboyant Advocate General of Goa Atmaram Nadkarni should resign taking moral responsibility for the most foul legal advice given by him to the Goa Government on the NEET issue pertaining to the Goa Medical College Post graduate students. Aires Rodrigues T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat Ribandar - Goa - 403006 Mobile: 9822684372
Re: [Goanet] Mull and Bull
Don't want to jump into this debate at this stage, but want to inform that Sebastian Borges has said that he isn't a professor but some have given him that prefix. As one can notice, he doesn't add the prefix to his signature. I assume SB would prefer is plain and simple. Eugene
[Goanet] Roland Francis: From One Second To The Next - Stray Thoughts of a Toronto Goan
By Roland Francis Source: Goan Voice Daily Newsletter 1 Sep 2013 at www.goanvoice.org.uk The plight of women in India was highlighted again with the gang rape of a young photojournalist in Bombay, a city that was once considered the safest the country for women. A similar incident took place in Delhi in December last year but fortunately this time the victim was not murdered. Both incidents have demonstrated several things. That some Indian males are basically sexually crazed and repressed and are encouraged in their misogyny surprisingly by the very females in their families; their mothers, grandmothers and aunts. It starts out with little things. The males are fed heartily at meals and what scant, insufficient food remains is shared by the women in the household. It goes on to criminal faults like instigating and abetting the young man in harassing the new bride to get additional dowry from her family ultimately ending in a joint conspiracy to burn and kill the hapless victim if her father is unable to meet these later demands. That Bombay Police are very effective if they are forced to be so by public pressure. The effectiveness has a price though. Suspects are routinely and mercilessly beaten up in custody until they confess and their innocent parents and other relatives are sometimes not immune from similar treatment if they do not give up information that the police need. Also the system of confidential informants (khabris) helps investigations as with police forces in the rest of the world but in Bombay's case those CIs are protected by their sponsor cops even more acutely from their own major criminal activities. That the print, broadcast and social media all play a crucial role in getting culprits to book in such high profile cases. The fact that no lessons are ever learned or no future preventive measures implemented by the authorities is another matter. They count on the light on such incidents eventually fading away and so far they have not been disappointed. This works for them even in case of major incidents like people dying in bus and train accidents which could have been preventable if basic safety and anti-negligence measures had been in place. I need to correct myself. In India there is no dearth of commission reports, rules, regulations and laws. The problem is with a lack of common civic consciousness in following them and the widespread corruption that causes the guardians of those laws to not enforce them. Goa though has no saving grace like Bombay. The police force has been inept, untrained and corrupt right from the time of change to Indian rule. It's not that third degree violence or confidential informants are not being used in Goa, It's just that even the best measures fail in that small state. As an example, the rate of solving as well as obtaining convictions in major crimes like murders and significant burglaries is abysmally low. The past and present heads of this force have been either incapable or unwilling to drive change to modernity and efficiency with better training and equipment. Granted that politicians have been a major thorn and impediment to all this. But such is the bane of police all over the country with the defining difference being that while elsewhere some inspiring IPS officers like Ribeiro, Mendonca, Inamdar, Soman and the current Satyapal Singh make a change to the criminal landscape, no such officers seem to have blessed Goa. There was the nationally famous Kiran Bedi who was a clever traffic top cop, but even she seemed to have made no lasting impression on that crime cursed and driving challenged territory. On the plane of another thought and talking of driving, today's weekend Toronto Star has devoted an entire supplement to the dangers of distracted driving. While thanks to NGOs like MADD (mothers against drunk driving) and police and government efforts as well, society is well aware of the dangers of drunk driving, what is not so well known is that distracted driving kills and maims even more people than driving under the influence of alcohol and drugs. One of the biggest culprits of distracted driving is texting - with eating, drinking coffee or pop, talking, putting on makeup, adjusting the stereo or GPS, hands off the steering wheel and having an animated discussion or verbal fight with a passenger, play their own dangerous roles. Werner Herzog has created an about-to-be released documentary 'It Can Wait' on texting and driving which has a very powerful message for all behind the wheel. It is already on You Tube as 'One Second To The Next' - http://bit.ly/15vaFCa http://bit.ly/15vaFCa and has gone viral. Please see the 34 minute viewing and pass on to those you care about. To readers in North America, have a pleasant and safe Labor Day tomorrow.
Re: [Goanet] Mull ani Bull (ML ani Caste)
Mervyn Lobo wrote: 'I am based in Toronto, Canada. I can assure you that caste is a huge factor in the peculiar type of Christianity as practiced by Goans. .. caste and Christianity go hand in glove in India.' COMMENT: 1: Request my good friend Mervyn, to please clarify what he means by huge factor in the peculiar type of Christianity as practiced. Please specify what they allegedly PRACTICE. 2: I believe I have written this. zillion times. 3: Revision aside, the major facet of Casteism is DISCRIMINATION. 4: It is mainly: a COLOR based discrimination. Am still trying to figure out how the Huns became Rajputs, If the Ship wrecked Jews became Chitpawan Brahmins, How Shivaji eventually was able to overcome Brahmin objection before becoming Chatrapati..etc 5: Caste discrimination is incompatible with Christianity. 6: Tomorrow, Mervyn might travel to another island country favoured by Canadians and write about Santeria Catholics. 7: Those Goans who practice discrimination based on their alleged ancestral pre-conversion Hindu caste, have NOT YET converted. They are best classified as individuals who are attending Christian worship services while practicing the Hindu Caste System. One day, they might resolve to shun this Apartheid practice and convert to Christianity. jc
[Goanet] 3 pols x 3 wonks= ? Answer: 1, 250 million in a leaky boat
Marshall should re-read the message vis-a-vis the subject title. Marshall Starts saying 'I have to ask you just one question (His message appended below)' and goes on asking THREE questions! Surprisingly funny!! Secondly, it is of no use 'questioning' just for the sake of questioning as Marshall always does! Just because Marshall cannot tolerate a word against Kangress and Kangress party does not mean that other writers should stop writing their viewpoints! Most importantly, I don't want to dilute the very importance of the article by answering Marshall's non-related questions - I'm not the author of the article! And if Marshall's never ending 'IFs and BUTs' are still not solved after repeated reading the message, he must write directly to the link provided and get all your questions solved. U. G. Barad On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote: Response: I have to ask you just one question. Why did the other parties, including your favourite BJP, then support this bill? Are they not party to this decision? Are they too not accountable for this? Had the Bill been passed with the BJP voting against, I could understand your angst. regards, Marshall My original message was: I found this article to be informative hence sharing with Goanet members. http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/3-pols-x-3-wonks-1130830011 96_1.html
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: When a friendly editor cured stammering... (Willy Goes, interviewed by Remediana Dias)
Artist-writer-musician and more Willy Goes [willyg...@rediffmail.com] believes in giving life his best, because to him life is an echo. It all comes back. Give it your best and the best will come to you, he says. He graduated from the Goa College of Art in 1986. He works full time as a teaching faculty in the Department of Applied Art at Goa College of Art and writes part time. His wife is a teacher and his son is studying in XI Arts at Don Bosco Higher Secondary. He speaks to Remediana 'Remy' Dias [remy_dias2...@yahoo.com] about his humble beginnings and his love for writing. RD: Tell us about your life and how it all began? - I began working when I was studying in Std. VIII. I was about fourteen years old then. I worked along with my father in The Navhind Times as a photo engraver. In those days the printing technology was different. If a photograph had to be printed, it had to be chemically engraved into a zinc plate. In common terms it was known as 'block making'. Then when Navhind Times switched over to the modern 'offset printing' technology, I was the first one to operate the offset process camera. When I was doing this, I simultaneously worked as a photojournalist for Navprabha and Navhind Times. I also handled photojournalist assignments for Goa Today. I was very active as a photojournalist during the Konkani agitation. I also contributed to the international news agency Reuters around this time. Simultaneously, I have also handled design assignments for various book covers, folders, brochures, etc. The very next year after my graduation (in 1986) I started teaching at the Goa College of Art as a part0time lecturer. During this time I did theatre too. In 1990, I was assigned a Drawing Teacher's job in Padi-Barcem which is about sixty kilometers from Panjim. I would travel to and from everyday. After coming back to Panjim, I continued with the lectures at Goa College of Art. In 1993 I was appointed at the Goa College of Art as full time lecturer, and I have been teaching at the art college ever since. RD: Have you received any awards in recognition for your work? - I have received several awards for art before I began writing. I have received State Art Awards for photography and graphic design in 1985, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1990 Ever since I have been writing, I have received Dalgado Konknni Akademi Awards for manuscripts of my novels 'Kantto' and 'Kotrin'. The Konknni Bhasha Mandal conferred their prestigious Sahitya Puraskar (Literary Award) for my novella 'Khand' in 2006. Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendra, the Konknni research institution in Porvorim, awarded me with the prestigious Jack Sequeira Konknni Puroskar 2012 for my contribution to Konkani language through literature. I was invited to participate and present papers at many state level and national level literary seminars in Goa, Mangalore and New Delhi. I served as a member of the Konkani Advisory Board of Sahitya Akademi, New Delhi from 2008 to 2012. Sahitya Akademi is the premiere institution of the Central government established to strengthen Indian literature in all languages. RD: When, where, why and how did you being your journey as a writer? - I started reading at a very young age when I found a book which was probably thrown out by somebody. It was a book about Robin Hood and his adventures. I can say that it was by accident that I started reading and I fell in love with reading. As I read those stories, I began to create stories in my mind. As I grew up, and reading became one of my hobbies, I began to ask myself, why couldn't I write too? But then, by being young, I was immature at that time. In the early nineties I joined the Jaycees, and it helped me know myself better, and it also helped me realise my potentials. I was made the editor of the Panjim Jaycees Bulletin, for which I wrote a couple of edits. Then I helped Fr. James D'Costa to start the Parish Bulletin of St. John of the Cross Church, Sanquelim. I wrote a piece or two for the bulletin. By then my son Lesly was growing. As a toddler, he would insist that I tell him a story before going to bed. Soon I ran out of stories and had to create stories. He would give me characters and force me to create stories, and I would be compelled to do so. By this time the writing bug was bugging me. I wanted to be a writer. One day I read in the Navhind Times that the daily was organizing a writers' workshop. The workshop was to be conducted by the well-known Goan novelist Victor Rangel-Ribeiro. Aspiring participants were asked to
Re: [Goanet] Marathi Theatre - Something to cheer about
When one speaks of modern Indian theatre one automatically thinks of Vijay Tendulkar in Marathi, Badal Sircar in Bengali, Girish Karnad in Kannada, Habib Tanvir in Hindi and a few others. I would like to talk about Marathi theatre but generalising what I say to other languages is possible. Modern Marathi theatre was, in my opinion, greatly influenced by Brahmins educated in English taking the plots, stories, and techniques of Western theatre and adapting this to their Maharashtrian context. I don't want to get into the issue of what I mean by Brahmins, but if you agree to my premise, then you will agree that these Brahmins created a huge change in the entertainment industry of the 20th century if not earlier. The Tamasha for instance was an entertainment form of the Mahar caste where the female performers were usually sexually exploited by the zamndars of the villages where they toured, and who were the sponsors of the performers in their respective villages. The Pune Brahmins were able to create a genre of Tamasha where this sort of expoitation was stopped and a popular form of upper class Tamasha was created. I am getting exhausted in my analysis of theatre in India, but I want to say one thing: the Konkani Tiatr is a brilliant form of theatre - it is very sad that a Shakespeare of a playwright has not yet emerged to take advantage of this form. I make one further assertion in this direction: the reason why a Shakespeare of the Konkani tiatr has not been born is because the in Goa, Catholic Goans cannot form a critical mass of people needed to create critically acclaimed theatre. And although Hindus and Muslims are very adept in acting and directing good theatre they do not have a form which can attract audiences which can sustain shows on ticket sales like the Konkani tiatre does. If the Christians and Hindus and Muslims join up and create a common theatrical form which uses different dialects of Konkani and Hindi an English, then we will have a critical mass numerically. More importantly we will have a theatre which will be not only accessibility to all the linguistic groups of Goa but even to foriegn tourists. My suggestion (which I am sure the Konkani Akademi, the Dalgado Konkani Akademi, the Tiatr Academy, etc etc will reject out of hand) - is that they should all, Christian, Hindu, Muslim... get together and create a new modern tiatre which speaks Konkani, Hindi, English, Marathi and Body Language. Once we have people coming for an all-religion Konkani-Marathi-Hindi-English-Body Language Theatre then we will have a surge of creativity on the drama front in Goa. Regards Augusto On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Nikhil Eco nikhil@gmail.com wrote: http://www.epw.in/postscript/restaging-marathi-theatre.html Restaging Marathi Theatre A new crop of playwrights and directors offers glimmers of a rejuvenation in Marathi theatre. Shanta Gokhale (shantagokh...@gmail.com) is a Mumbai-based writer, translator, columnist, theatre historian and critic. It is an often-heard refrain that Marathi theatre had its golden age in the 1960s and 1970s and is now a shadow of itself. If theatre lovers of an earlier vintage were asked for their opinion, they would say the golden age happened in the early 20th century when Bal Gandharva strode the *sangeet natak *stage. Having said that, it must be admitted that the 1960s and 1970s were decades of extremely significant work not only in Marathi theatre but across the country – in Kannada, Bengali and Hindi theatre too. However, it was not as if suddenly a crop of brilliant playwrights and directors had come into being at the time. There were sociopolitical forces at work that provided the push to their work. It cannot be mere coincidence that Vijay Tendulkar’s path-breaking play *Shantata!**Court Chalu Ahe* was written in 1963, a year before Bob Dylan’s album *The Times They Are A-Changin’* was released; and produced in 1968, a few months after the student uprisings in France and the Prague Spring. In England John Osborne’s *Look Back in Anger* had already brought the kitchen sink into the genteel drawing rooms of British theatre. All these events marked these decades as a time of protest against the establishment, and Marathi theatre may quite legitimately be seen as a part of this ferment. The contemporary press too gave generous space to new, serious, experimental work in theatre, literature and cinema, creating an environment of discourse that nourished the arts. In the 1980s, the idea that the best was over troubled the new generation of theatre practitioners. Playwrights like Vijay Tendulkar, Mahesh Elkunchwar, Satish Alekar, G P Deshpande, and directors like Satyadev Dubey and Amol Palekar, had broken much new ground, while their followers appeared to have nothing of importance to say. The theatre community felt a dialogue was necessary to understand what had taken the dynamism out of theatre. Towards
[Goanet] News report by Stephen Dias on Marinas not in Goan interest is published in Times of India dt 2.9.2013
Marinas not in Goan interest Sep 1, 2013, 05.47 AM IST i The report (Aug 26) clearly indicates match fixing in this regards. Interestingly, a biodiversity board sponsored programme at MPT in early August had environment minister Alina Saldanha as chief guest and here the closeness of members of the biodiversity board and MPT was clearly visible. We are likely to see some symbolic resistance from the biodiversity board which will then enable MPT to come up with the marina project. Earlier the chief minister showed that he was against casinos. Today giant casinos have anchored in the Mandovi river. Similarly the environment minister is shouting hoarse against marinas but is actively working with MPT conducting school children programs at the MPT premises. The state biodiversity board under the environment minister seems to be in a deep sleep while Goan forests seas and sweet water suffer from pollution. Like casinos, the marinas would make their presence in Goa though they are not in Goan Interest. Will the state biodiversity board rise to the occasion. Stephen Dias
[Goanet] Fwd: Mapping Mapusa Market: a Course of Goa University VRPP (Press Note)
The following project is likely to be the focus of a new book on Mapusa, the town which gets the least attention from our powers despite the fact that the Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar, Deputy CM Francis D'Souza and Environment Minister Alina Saldanha hailing from there. It deserves support from all. Augusto -- Forwarded message -- Hello, This is to request you to kindly give publicity to the following course (*Mapping Mapusa Market*) that is about to be launched by Goa University as part of the Mario Miranda Chair of Fine art/painting/illustrative cartooning, etc. (Visiting Research Professors Programme). It is a very innovative course to be conducted by a noted artist, Orijit Sen, and is likely to attract the attention of many, students as well as the general public. A Press Note is attached, as well as a few pictures. Thank you for your kind collaboration. Much obliged. Isabel S.R. Vas *Press Note* Orijit Sen, joins Goa University as the *Mario Miranda Visiting Research Professor in Graphic Art and Design.* Prof. Sen’s project will be with the students and citizens of Mapusa and is titled Mapping Mapusa Market. *MAPPING MAPUSA MARKET* is a participatory process which will eventually build into a dedicated website accessible to the public. The main idea behind this project is to explore and document the complex life of Mapusa market from a variety of perspectives - through illustrations, photographs, videos, recorded interviews and data gathering. The context for this project is the changing landscape of markets, retail spaces and local produce and crafts outlets in India and elsewhere. The project will look at how a historical market such as Mapusa has evolved, and how it is coping with the challenges of globalisation, consumerism, emergence of malls and supermarket culture, FDI in retail etc. Given that the market is a fascinating, rich and diverse space which accommodates everything from locally grown pumpkins and crafts to Chinese imports and high-end electronics, we are also interested in understanding the role that Mapusa market plays in producing, sustaining and re-fashioning Goan culture, values and lifestyle. What is the importance of market interactions beyond that of pure economics? Do these interactions have a vital but often overlooked social and cultural dimension as well? *ORIJIT SEN* Orijit Sen is a graphic artist and designer based in New Delhi. He trained at the National Institute of Design, Ahmedabad. He has helped conceptualise, design and execute several exhibition and museum design projects, including the India Pavilion at the World Expo 2005 in Aichi, Japan and the Virasat-e-Khalsa Museum in Anandpur Sahib, Punjab. Orijit also works with graphic narrative forms. His pioneering graphic novel 'The River of Stories' was published in 1994. He is a one of the founders of the Pao Collective – a group of comics artists and graphic novelists in Delhi, and has collaborated on the award-winning ‘*Pao Anthology of Comics*’ published by Penguin Books. His graphic prints have been exhibited and published in India, Japan, China, USA, Switzerland and elsewhere. In 1991, he co-founded People Tree, a centre for design, crafts and sustainable living, which has grown to become a celebrated and unique cultural space in Delhi. He heads People Tree’s in-house design studio - often collaborating with designers, artisans and others on special projects. *Participation* The College students in Mapusa will be the hub of this project. It kicks off at : D.M's College of Arts, Sc. Com Assagoa with the Mapusa Market being the location of the field work. Students and Citizens are invited to participate in the project starting on September 16th, 2013. Details and registration are available at unigoa.ac.in and unigoa.wordpress.com. For details contact *grap...@unigoa.ac.in* -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal Moira, Bardez Goa, India E pinto...@gmail.com P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
Re: [Goanet] Mull ani Bull
Marshall Mendonza wrote: Fr Jerome's statement that there is no caste in Christianity is factual. Mervyn Lobo writes: I am based in Toronto, Canada. I am not sure where you are based but I can assure you that caste is a huge factor in the peculiar type of Christianity as practiced by Goans. Just in case, just in case you are not aware of it, here is a link that will update you, with every agonizing detail, how caste and Christianity go hand in glove in India. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_among_Indian_Christians Gilbert Lawrence responds: I read the link which was kindly provided by Mervyn. The link has nothing connected to what Mervyn alludes to as exist today in Goa. The closest connection is: The upper caste Gaonkar Christians have demanded that only their community be given positions on the Pastoral Council of Goa's Catholic Church.[16] The fact that this upper caste group made the demand would suggest that they do not have that right. And there is no reference that their demand has been accepted. In the past the Bamons tended to be priests was in major part related to the fact that they were the only group with any education and literacy skills. With widespread religious affiliated schools, that problem is much resolved. So do you have any CURRENT data / evidence to support, that caste is a huge factor in the peculiar type of Christianity as practiced by Goans? Thanks in anticipation. Please do not take this personally. Regards, GL
[Goanet] Gagnam-style meets kazar...
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Re: [Goanet] Mull ani Bull (ML ani Caste)
Jose Colaco wrote: 1: Request my good friend Mervyn, to please clarify what he means by huge factor in the peculiar type of Christianity as practiced. Please specify what they allegedly PRACTICE. -snip- 7: Those Goans who practice discrimination based on their alleged ancestral pre-conversion Hindu caste, have NOT YET converted. They are best classified as individuals who are attending Christian worship services while practicing the Hindu Caste System. One day, they might resolve to shun this Apartheid practice and convert to Christianity. Doc, We are on the same page. You find the caste system absurd and so do I. You also feel that one cannot be Christian and practice the caste system, and so do I. The caste system was jettisoned by my fore parents. I had no exposer to it until I read about it on Goanet. The more I read about the caste system, the easier it comes for me to understand how easily a person can be deluded into caste, superstitious, mythology and religious believes. Mervyn
[Goanet] Mull ani Bull
Sebastian Borges wrote: This means that casteism is rampant in the Catholic Church even outside Goa. The Dalit Archbishop proved his predecessor wrong by living up to the trust reposed in him by the Holy See with a highly distinguished tenure until his sad demise in 2010. Gilbert Lawrence responds: What your above account shows there is no casteism because the Dalit was made Archbishop. And he was very successful i.e. majority of his followers (congregation) gave him their full support. Regards, GL
[Goanet] Fwd: Camp Seely - Sept., 13-15, 2013
Just a reminder... Camp Seely is coming up in 2 weeks. Please make sure that you book your cabins! Thank you, Donovan Rodrigues GOA President LA -Original Message- From: goansofamerica goansofamer...@aol.com Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:45 am Subject: Fwd: Camp Seely - Sept., 13-15, 2013 Camp Seely is coming up please make sure you book your cabins. Those of you that have reserved a cabin please do not forget to send in your checks. Thanks, Donovan President GOA LA -Original Message- From: goansofamerica goansofamer...@aol.com Sent: Sun, Jul 28, 2013 5:24 pm Subject: Camp Seely - Sept., 13-15, 2013 Hi All, Camp Seely will be held Friday September 13th – Sunday September 15th : 1. We will not be putting the bookings through “Paypal” 2. Please make checks out to “Goans of America” 3. $165 for a cabin of 4 or less. $180 for a cabin of 5 4. If you are single, and need to form groups, please email me and we can put singles together in one/two cabins 5. Please send checks to my address – Donovan Rodrigues, 1645 Melissa Way, Anaheim, CA 92802 6. If you have special needs please let us know and we will try and accommodate as best as we can 7. L.A. Parks and recreation has a limit on people attending and we will be paying additional charges for anything over 125 people 8. Day campers (if any) will be expected to pay $30 per person as well as bring a meal to share for Saturdays common dinner. 9. The L.A. Goa is a nonprofit organization and all individuals attending will be responsible for their own insurance needs. 10. We will have a certified nurse for basic first aid situations and most probably a catholic priest that will say mass on Sunday morning More details to follow, once the checks are in. Thank you, Donovan Rodrigues GOA President LA
[Goanet] BEACH SHACKS IN GOA LIKELY TO HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS INSTALLED
CCTV CAMERAS ON DEMAND FOR BEACH SHACKS By: Stephen Dias, D.Paula It is said earlier that the RTO was hell bent on fixing High security registration plates ( HSRP), for all vehicles in Goa but till now no final orders has been placed. There is lots of hue and cry from the public that these installations of plates smells some scam as they have not followed administrative purchase procedures at RTO office in Goa. Helmets is another scam where there are plans to implement all over the state including the city limits. Now it appears that the Government of Goa Tourism dept has made it mandatory to have CCTV cameras installed which is another kind of security system to be installed for beach shacks in Goa. I understand that at Gurgaon , Civil Hospitals have already installed CCTV cameras and also at Bhumaneswar police have asked the shops to install CCTV cameras and at Chennai, the Corporation has installed CCTV cameras in their canteen and so on. Now, it appears that there is a similar craze in Goa also, on such installation all over the place but what I worry about is whether any body will take cognizance or check and whether these cameras are working or they are for name sake or whether they are genuine cameras. If there are regular checks then this could be a good initiative. In case there are lapses then it will be an another scam similar to HSRP registration plates and the procurement of CCTV cameras could be just an eye wash to make a fast buck on purchases of CCTV’s for Goa beach shacks, hotels, government offices, road traffic etc.
Re: [Goanet] Mull ani Bull
Marshall Mendonza wrote: I trust you understand the difference between there is no caste in Christianity and certain christians practising casteism. If not, please refer to the Bible. Marshall, I am going to give you the benefit of doubt and assume that you sent the above as a joke. If the above was not meant as a joke, then you are requesting me to research on a concept that has been jettisoned by all followers of Christ EXCEPT Indian Christians? What am I going to learn by researching a rejected concept? Lastly, unless the Bible has been revised in the past 20 years, you are attempting to send me on a wild goose chase. There is no casteism in the Bible. Caste, in Indian Christianity, is a purely Hindu hangover. Anyone who practices it, cannot be a follower of Christ. Mervyn
Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao Fernandes, Kafila.org)
Congratulations to Ferrao Fernandes for an excellent response to the 13th May 2013 British Daily Mail and Daily Star articles. If I may, I would like to offer just a very small contribution in what regards Portuguese Nationality Law. Ferrao Fernandes state that the unilateral actions of 1961 by the Republic of India meant that Goans lost Portuguese citizenship post 1961 and were only able to recover it after 1974. That is not totally correct and it may only reflect the position from the part of the Republic of India. It is a fact that Goans born before 19 December 1961 are considered Portuguese nationals of origin following the Portuguese Nationality Law of 1959 - which has never been revoked for the case of the citizens born in the Portuguese State of India. This law of 1959 confirmed Portuguese nationality of origin to all citizens born in any overseas Portuguese province. Later in 1975, another law 308-A/1975 of 24 June determined the faith of Portuguese citizens residing in the Portuguese territories of Africa (Angola, Mozambique, Guine Bissau, Cabo Verde and Sao Tome e Principe) during the dates of independence of those territories (1974 to 1975), and gave those residents a limited period of time of choose between their current Portuguese citizenship or the citizenship of their new independent countries of residence. From the Portuguese nationality Law of 1959 (applicable to all Portuguese citizens) and the law 308-A/1975 of 24 June (applicable to residents in the ex-Portuguese Africa during 1974 to 1975) one can easily confirm that Portuguese citizens born in the former Portuguese State of India REMAIN Portuguese nationals ad aeternum except if they were residing in the ex-Portuguese territories of Africa given independence 1974 - 1975 (in which case they were given a period of time to decide which citizenship to choose from). Therefore, Goans born before 19 December 1961 who can prove that they were not residing in the ex-Portuguese African territories between 1974 to 1975 never lost Portuguese nationality according to Portuguese Nationality Law. They are indeed Portuguese nationals of origin since birth and even today, regardless of what the Republic of India may state or impose upon them. There are, therefore, two positions. The Indian position is that Indian Citizenship was imposed on Goans post 1961 by an act of conquest from the Republic of India over the Portuguese state of India (http://www.icrc.org/ihl-nat.nsf/46707c419d6bdfa24125673e00508145/a693a13f3cdd399ec12563b8002b1c41/$FILE/case.pdf - Supreme Court of India Reports 1970 pp. 87-102 regarding the case of REV. MONS. SEBASTIAO FRANCISCO XAVIER DOS REMEDIOS MONTEIRO) and, therefore, they became Indian citizens. However, it is also a fact that, according to the law of the Portuguese Republic, Goans never lost Portuguese nationality if they can prove that they were not residing in the ex-Portuguese provinces of Africa given independence during 1974 to 1975. Whether the Republic of India likes it or not, these Goans are indeed Portuguese citizens according to Portuguese Nationality Law and there is nothing the Republic of India or even the United Kingdom can do to dispute it. That is the theory. In practice, Portugal does not know of the existence of these Goans because their birth records remained in Goa post 1961. Any interested party can register the birth of these Goans in Portugal and, by doing so, confirming the Portuguese nationality of these Goans born in Goa before 1961. This is, however, not recovery of Portuguese citizenship but recognition of the same, which was never lost post 1961, according to the position of Portugal and its Portuguese Nationality Law. To put things into perspective, it is a fact that Goa has currently today a Chief Minister called Manohar Gopalkrishna Prabhu Parrikar who was born on the 13 December 1955 at Mapusa, Bardez, Portuguese Province of Goa - an integrant part of the Portuguese Republic. Mr. Parrikar's country of birth whether he likes it or not was the Portuguese Republic (Goa was an overseas province of the Portuguese Republic in 1955 and the Republic of India even had a Consulate General of the Republic of India in Panjim, closed down in 1955 itself, after the problems between Portugal and the Republic of India took a more serious dimension). Presuming that Mr. Parrikar was not residing in the ex-Portuguese provinces of Africa during 1974 to 1975, Portuguese Nationality Law confers Portuguese Citizenship of origin to him. The current Chief Minister of Goa is, therefore, a Portuguese citizen of origin, according to Portuguese Nationality Law. This is the position of Portugal according to the Portuguese Nationality Law. Of course Mr. Parrikar and all Goans born before 1961 in Goa are free to renounce Portuguese citizenship of origin of their own free will if they also have another citizenship. The fact remains that if
[Goanet] Rarely has the Goan Diaspora challenged the biased views of the mainstream media. (Dr Eddie D'Sa)
By Dr. Eddie D'Sa gdig...@btinternet.com Benedito Ferrao and Jason Fernandes[1] deserve all praise for a fitting and timely response to the allegations made by Andrew Green, chair of Migration Watch. They have stated their case persuasively and in clear and crisp academic prose -- rare among Goan writers. [The subject title may be a bit misleading though: if Goans are Portuguese, they are so only by virtue of citizenship (passport), not ethnicity. Right?] Sir Andrew, a former ambassador to Saudi Arabia, is the favoured migration expert for the Tories who quote copiously from his reports and pronouncements. He belongs to that select band of Little Englanders and Empire cheerleaders who have never come to terms with the loss of Empire and with subsequent presence of black and Asian migrants in the 'green and pleasant land'. * As for the media, the tabloids (Daily Mail, Express, Star, Sun), all owned by Rightwing billionaires, are generally, and often virulently, anti-immigration and anti-asylum. They have often made biased and inflammatory statements knowing well they can get away with it. In fact, the government (especially Downing Street and the Home Office) is said to be in thrall to the tabloids and reportedly used them from to time as conduits for leaks of harsh laws in the pipeline. [See APPENDIX for more on the tabloids.] * Ferrao and Fernandes write: As Goan academics, there is a need to redress such misrepresentations and firmly call out the Anglo-centric interpretation of colonialism... I heartily agree. Unfortunately, for too long, the Goan community, and even the elites, do not have the intellectual resources to confront the mainstream media and present their own case. They have sought safety in their feasts, religious rituals, community celebrations with song and dance * Rarely has the Goan Diaspora challenged the biased views put forward by the mainstream media. Mind you, if they did write and state their side of the argument to a mainstream paper, the letter would probably be binned. The media cling to the official view and allow no contrary position in general. There are no wide circulation Leftwing papers in Britain for an alternative perspectives. They will fail to attract advertisers and would have to fold. Smaller papers and online websites are forever begging their readers for donations. You could perhaps try addressing your arguments to the Daily Star or Daily Mail and see how far you get. Ferrao and Fernandes have rightly distinguished the Portuguese colonial state from the one created by the British. Significantly, the Portuguese state attempted to recognise natives as citizens, with rights equal to those of persons from the metropole... whereas the only status enjoyed by the natives in the British Empire was as that of subjects of the British crown. How right they are to point out the racialised political climate induced by years of British colonial rule in Africa. In particular, in Kenya, racial segregation was enforced in residential areas, public toilets in government buildings, entry into hotels. Even the Catholic Church privileged White parishioners at church services (Mass) by reserving the front pews for them. I believe it was the same in India, certainly in Bombay until the Brits left. * As for the Mau Mau rebellion in Kenya, the British resorted to mass detention, torture and killings. Michael Blundell, Minister without portfolio and head of the European land owners said in July 1954: We do not detain people for what they do but what they intend to do. (Never be Silent, S Durrani, Vita Books 2006). It took over 60 years for justice for victims of the Mau Mau rebellion because the British Government destroyed all evidence of their atrocities -- there were reports about roasting alive Kenyans, beating natives to death, anally raping men in internment camps using knives, broken bottles, rifle barrels, snakes and scorpions, even making a special tool to crush and rip off testicles by British forces. These detention camps held more than 160,000 Africans between 1952 and 1960. Pliers were used to mutilate women's breasts. The Mau Mau court hearing charges numbered over 400 brought by four elderly Kenyans -- two victims of castration. * Likewise, how right Ferrao and Fernandes are to point out that Asian travellers have had to put up with much ritual humiliations at embassies, consulates, and immigration check-points globally. But how do you counter the Anglocentric view of the world? The English-speaking nations are far too united and powerful. I guess the way forward to equality and respect is by achieving power like East Asia (China, Japan, Korea). At present India
[Goanet] Goa news for September 2, 2013
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Is more upside left in Sesa Goa after 50% rally in one month? - Economic Times onomic Times0. Share More. READ MORE ON » Syria http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFvAwbE_KFJiQgsCqQAiPLmeYLmxwurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/stocks/stocks-in-news/is-more-upside-left-in-sesa-goa-after-50-rally-in-one-month/articleshow/22139781.cms *** Goa CM Manohar Parrikar alleges double standard by Centre on mining issue - Economic Times se-goas-8-10mt-inventory-once-ban-is-lifted-sesa-goa_942703.htmlCan use Goa's 8-10MT inventory once ban is lifted: Sesa Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEaJoOpK6T4MJV0gK9z_Tiq15DVfgurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/goa-cm-manohar-parrikar-alleges-double-standard-by-centre-on-mining-issue/articleshow/22138589.cms *** Why Goa is looking to go upmarket and banish Brits and backpackers - The Guardian ime state, the hedonistic hippy haven whose promises of sun, sand, cheap beer and drugs transformed it into a magnet for backpackers and budget tourists looking for an alternative to the Spanish costas. With the collapse of the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFnURC2aQuecg9QBwjy60tcNiQ9_gurl=http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/01/goa-banish-brits-backpackers *** Bench pulls up Goa for lack of prudence in medical admissions - The Hindu yAnAAoIProm7uYcT5I2zIK6Q http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNH4HjZucIODtHDULTbx3ThjLKGURgurl=http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/bench-pulls-up-goa-for-lack-of-prudence-in-medical-admissions/article5080041.ece *** Central government opposes special status for Goa - Times of India nd-nation/government-against-giving-special-status-to-goa/articleshow/22163594.cmsGovernment against giving special status to Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFoKVLZL5SCmzdEGYiycDE0POdNTgurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Central-government-opposes-special-status-for-Goa/articleshow/22173321.cms *** Goa beyond beaches: Trek through tunnels to Dudhsagar Falls is mesmerising - Economic Times onomic TimesA thick fog of uncertainty surrounds us as we start our trek along the railway track from Karnataka's Castlerock to Dudhsagar Falls in Goa. Rain, leeches and faeces welcome us. We have to cover 14 km along the track. We, a group of 38 people, form ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHSqOJVGi380KCXL7nHh-XJJDTFrgurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/services/travel/goa-beyond-beaches-trek-through-tunnels-to-dudhsagar-falls-is-mesmerising/articleshow/22189091.cms *** Goa bars foreigners from beach shack jobs - Daijiworld.com 5_CXhzbZMned=us http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHtCdTNsv0qrp-f3S8_SR8mZiq55Aurl=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=186384 *** Relocation process of religious structures in South Goa underway - Times of India CWMned=us http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGHrTWd4eInHXMiNmih5sJwUrzr9gurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Relocation-process-of-religious-structures-in-South-Goa-underway/articleshow/22189280.cms *** Goa state pollution control board cracks whip - Times of India ause notices to 12 hotels as to why the consent to operate issued to them by the board should not be cancelled. The board stated that hotels are operating without a facility ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNF4glz_vL0kUHpB_8Bsov5tvoUCIQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-state-pollution-control-board-cracks-whip/articleshow/22198375.cms *** Indian rupee crashes: Indian vacationers ditch Italy for Goa, stay-cations - Christian Science Monitor ear-old will settle for cold beers on the beaches of Goa on India's west coast. Skip to next paragraph. Related stories ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEDq3tVNQs4TbPBUtg1DbPaXPrxbgurl=http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Latest-News-Wires/2013/0829/Indian-rupee-crashes-Indian-vacationers-ditch-Italy-for-Goa-stay-cations Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
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Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao Fernandes, Kafila.org)
Paulo Colaco Dias wrote: To put things into perspective, it is a fact that Goa has currently today a Chief Minister called Manohar Gopalkrishna Prabhu Parrikar who was born on the 13 December 1955 at Mapusa, Bardez, Portuguese Province of Goa - an integrant part of the Portuguese Republic. Mr. Parrikar's country of birth whether he likes it or not was the Portuguese Presuming that Mr. Parrikar was not residing in the ex-Portuguese provinces of Africa during 1974 to 1975, Portuguese Nationality Law confers Portuguese Citizenship of origin to him. The current Chief Minister of Goa is, therefore, a Portuguese citizen of origin, according to Portuguese Nationality Law. This is the position of Portugal according to the Portuguese Nationality Law. Of course Mr. Parrikar and all Goans born before 1961 in Goa are free to renounce Portuguese citizenship of origin of their own free will if they also have another citizenship. The fact remains that if they do not renounce it, they are indeed Portuguese citizens of origin according to Portugal and its Portuguese Nationality Laws, regardless of them being registered in Portugal or not. Registration in Portugal is merely a formal recognition of title of Portuguese citizenship. Granting of the same title is conferred by the Portuguese Nationality Law and not in the act of registering the birth in Portugal alone. Paulo Colaco Dias, I can always depend on you to provide comic relief on Goanet. The only reason why Goans born before Dec 1961 are Portuguese is because the Portuguese insist they are. The confused Goans of that age, insist they are Portuguese too. I am not sure if you have had the privilege of visiting Africa but almost every Head of State there has been born a British subject or a French citizen. By law. To these Africans, the concept of them being subjected to the whims of an er, 'queen' of the UK or socialist 'president' of France is so foreign that they stood up and kicked the British and French out of the continent. Goans did not do the same. They waited for the Indians to do the job for them. The Indians, thanks be to Allah, allowed the Goans, for the first time in history, to elect any leader they desired. The current elected leader of Goa, according to you, is Portuguese by birth. Incredibly, he won the majority of votes of those who vote in Goa. He reminds me of the African Presidents. Not the Portuguese. As for renouncing Portuguese citizenship, that is the domain only of those who still find the desire to abide by the laws of one of the most troubled economies in the world. The rest of the world has moved on. For better or for worse. Mervyn
