Re: [Goanet] Social media posts cause buzz over fate of Club Tito's, but what's the story?

[Roland Francis]

Like everything in Goa, it’s a very confusing story. Nothing is what it appears 
to be.

Read about this also on today’s Goan Voice UK and you will see the many 
dimensions and contradictory assertions of why “Ricky” sold his multi faceted 
“Tito” businesses to a Punjabi casino owner.

Skim over all the entities (Police, Tax, politicians and a whole lot of others) 
and hear his closing statement of how the Calangute (where his main business is 
based) Sarpanch is a “good” man and how Michael Lobo the local MLA is his 
“friend”. 

Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

Roland.
Toronto.


> On Jun 29, 2021, at 4:10 PM, Goanet News  wrote:
> 
> Rajdeep Sardessai on India Today
> https://youtu.be/BfhDTLaQkB0
> 
> Sold off Tito's due to harassment by babus: Goa nightspot owner
> https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/sold-off-titos-due-to-harassment-by-babus-goa-nightspot-owner/articleshow/83941221.cms
> 
> 
> Ricardo D'Souza on the Modi Sarkar
> https://www.facebook.com/BJP4Goa/posts/2342990369094455

[Goanet] Jumping to Conclusions Without the Facts in the Indigenous Residential Schools Question

[Roland Francis]

For D’Sa:
A look from the other side before he rushes to judgement.

There is a link to the 44 page report of the Anthropologist from Lakehead 
University in Thunder Bay, Ontario appointed by the Truth & Reconciliation 
Commmission as well as a 2 page summary of that report produced by a group 
called Real Women of Canada (probably a Catholic group).

Would be interested to see if D’Sa dismisses this view out of hand.

https://realwomenofcanada.ca/jumping-to-conclusions-without-the-facts-in-the-indigenous-residential-schools-question/

Roland,
Toronto. 

[Goanet-News] The story of filth washed ashore on a Fatrade (Salcete) beach... and how social media played a role

[Frederick Noronha]

https://tinyurl.com/yfegv394
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[Goanet] The story of filth washed ashore on a Fatrade (Salcete) beach... and how social media played a role

[Frederick Noronha]

https://tinyurl.com/yfegv394
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[Goanet-News] Roque Lazarus... and an unusual music from Goa

[Frederick Noronha]

Nylon pluckers Roque and Rui :: a documentary from Goa365 and Derek Almeida
https://youtu.be/1c6kqSQ8Mes

Roque Lazarus with Konkani opera composer-writer Felicio Fernandes (vocals)
https://youtu.be/9Liu9OEZVPc

Contact Roque via WA. Musicians like him deserve your support: +91 99700
61060
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[Goanet] Fr. Pratap Naik May the Holy Spirit Continue to Guide you for Decades More important

[Adolfo Mascarenhas]

I read with great interest  about your Journey in the Society of Jesus
contained in message  ID:  <
caodpnujwmcfmfaxkkseg0p3ttuftatrxoejtbc1a5kykgre...@mail.gmail.com>, Dated:
Mon, 28 Jun 2021

From: Pratap Naik   To: Pratap Naik <
pratapnai...@gmail.com>


On Pentecost  the remarkable thing was that when the Holy Spirit appeared
over the heeds of the Apostles, they suddenly lost fear and what is more
they spoke in one language and no matter what language the listeners used,
the UNDERSTOOD.  The Jews were furious and said that they were drunk.  That
day more than 3000 people followed Christ.

You have used diverse languages from  quoting Abraham Lincoln to   Ralph
Waldo Emerson :<<<


With your Science Background  you appreciate, like Albert Einstein the
power of science to help humanity or to pulverize humans and everything
that God created.   The family is important for stability .. But at the
end of the day God has a plan and a unique purpose for every one of us.
There simply cannot be another Fr Pratap Naik.


Some time ago I was accused that I was following the Western, White mans
Religion. What nonsense ...St. Thomas and Bartholomew were in India, via
Afghanistan, Pakistan and then to East India and got converts in India
centuries before, any of the Europeans ...Irish, English French even
Portuguese. became Catholics. In addition St Augustine came from Africa,
his Mother Monique an Arab.He was and understood Greek, Roan and even
Egypt Philosophers.If the Society of Jesus had existed thenI am
sure that St Augustine would be a SJ


Of course you are an authority in Konknni ...that is because of your
humanity and humility and willingness Not to assume you knew everything
.and that is where there is a vast store of knowledge, science and
technology and alas superstitions .  In Goa, I was driving with a friend
she told me that near the Prison in Quepem, opposite  where there was a
Hindu Shrine, there was a tree and when the fruit fell, smoke came out
.She pointed the tree to me...it was a Baobab but even here in Tanzania
there is so much superstition attached to them roads are slightly
curved so as to avoid cutting a tree, many even in Dar es Salaam will not
go anywhere near a Baobab tree.


 So Fr. Prarap  NaikI hope we meet in Goa and talk about Spirits and
Ecology. May the Holy Spirit Guide Us 


Adolfo Mascarenhas

Makongo Iuu

Haven of Peace




My contribution goes far beyond Konknni linguistics and extends to
ecology, eco-spirituality,
horticulture, promotion of Konknni language and culture through mass media
and social media, care for domestic and wild animals including reptiles
which most of the people are scared and avoid, guiding and encouraging
people to grow in positive values, sharing of my thoughts, quotations,
videos of music, dance, and short movies through social media, and reaching
out 3L namely, the least, last, lost students and their poor families
irrespective of religion, region, language, and culture.



Throughout my life before joining the SJ and afterwards I was guided by the
teachings of the Bible. Besides this, I was influenced by the thoughts of
great thinkers and teachers of different religions. ?Associate yourself
with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is
better to be alone than in bad company.? said George Washington. His sound
advice I have followed till date.



Till I reached tenth standard, I had never thought of becoming a
priest. I wanted
to be a teacher, because I was helping my siblings and others in their
studies while studying.  While I had my own plan for my life, God had a
master plan for me. That is how I joined the SJ. First, I opted for the
Darjeeling region and later within a year seeing the greater need, I joined
the Goa-Pune Province to work in the Kannada region.



When I finished my philosophy studies and a year of regency, my superiors
and fellow Jesuits
thought that I must be set aside for Konknni work. With the little
initial reluctance,
finally I accepted the challenge and never looked back. I proposed the
concept of establishing Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr (TSKK)and worked with
the late Fr. Matthew Almeida for all the aspects connected with TSKK and
its campus, including constructing the aesthetic building.For me life is
not what I want, but what God decrees. Hence, I accepted the saying, ?When
life isn?t the way you like, like it the way it is.? Life in the SJ gave me
ample opportunities to bloom and spread the fragrance. There were moments
of jubilant sense of reaching the Mount Everest peak and at times thrown
down to the frightening and descending unknown abyss of the ocean. During
these moments I reminded myself the sound words of Gautama Buddha, ?Do not
dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the
present moment.? Living in the present moment and swimming against the
powerful current of worldly culture and standard was a great 

[Goanet] Roque Lazarus... and an unusual music from Goa

[Frederick Noronha]

Nylon pluckers Roque and Rui :: a documentary from Goa365 and Derek Almeida
https://youtu.be/1c6kqSQ8Mes

Roque Lazarus with Konkani opera composer-writer Felicio Fernandes (vocals)
https://youtu.be/9Liu9OEZVPc

Contact Roque via WA. Musicians like him deserve your support: +91 99700
61060
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[Goanet-News] Social media posts cause buzz over fate of Club Tito's, but what's the story?

[Goanet News]

Rajdeep Sardessai on India Today
https://youtu.be/BfhDTLaQkB0

Sold off Tito's due to harassment by babus: Goa nightspot owner
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/sold-off-titos-due-to-harassment-by-babus-goa-nightspot-owner/articleshow/83941221.cms


Ricardo D'Souza on the Modi Sarkar
https://www.facebook.com/BJP4Goa/posts/2342990369094455

[Goanet] Native children in Catholic residential schools in Canada treated abominably

[Eddie D'Sa]

Hi Francis,

I see that you agree with the term 'cultural genocide', a term used by the 
white led Truth & Reconciliation Commission (Report 2015)
You say that the children died of loneliness, inadequate care, harsh discipline 
or disease but were not directly killed.
How would you know what really happened without proper investigation or 
testimony?
The Anglos are masters with their language English, at inventing categories 
that can absolve themselves from blame.

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Children were separated from their families, some of them as young as three.
Can you imagine the trauma suffered by the children, deprived of the warmth and 
close contact with their parents? And what of teen girls in their menstrual 
years? Did they receive adequate comfort and protection?
In the schools, children were forbidden to speak their language or practice 
their own culture. Many children also suffered physical and sexual abuse. Over 
150,000 children passed through the school system and the last school was 
closed as recently as 1996.

Trudeau who is Catholic met the Pope in 2017 and said that he had a "deeply 
personal and wide-ranging, thoughtful conversation with the leader of my own 
faith".
“I told him how important it is for Canadians to move forward on real 
reconciliation with the indigenous peoples and I highlighted how he could help 
by issuing an apology,” Trudeau told reporters after meeting the pope in Rome.


PM Justin Trudeau admitted that that successive Canadian governments "have 
failed" indigenous people and promised to outline a "national action plan" to 
tackle the violence.

As for the holy man of the Europe, Pope Francis said he was pained but refused 
to apologise. Is there were legal implications, should a top religious leader 
fear and dodge them? After all, he has accepted the titles Supreme Pontiff and 
Vicar of Christ. How could Christ's Vicar be a weakling and coward?
In any case, do clerical or government apologies mean anything without return 
of vast stolen land and payment of trillions of dollars in reparations? Were 
any of the white priests and nuns punished?

Eddie




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[Goanet] RIBANDAR REMAINS EVER SO GRATEFUL TO FR ANTONIO LOURENCO FERNANDES

[Aires Rodrigues]

After tirelessly serving our Ribandar Church for seven long years our very
dear Parish Priest Rev. Fr. Antonio Lourenco Fernandes today moves on to
the Socorro Church.  Not a seven year itch but a call to serve another
Parish.

Our Church had been lacking in the very basic amenities while the
infrastructure left a lot to be desired. As a result of his determination,
the entire Church premises is now magnificent and one that we can all be
proud of. The parishioners of Ribandar will always remain ever so indebted
for the incredible transformation of our Church that Fr. Antonio Lourenco
Fernandes made possible by his sheer dedication and relentless hard work.
He was a Messiah sent by God to restore the glory of God’s people and the
Church. A warrior of Christ he has been.

Ribandar also remains so very grateful to Architects Ashley Mascarenhas and
Dattaprasad Wagle who along with Structural Engineer Paresh Gaitonde and
the crew for having through their expertise given our Parish Priest all the
assistance and guidance in making a very tall dream come true.

We wish Fr. Antonio Lourenco Fernandes an abundance of blessings and all
the very best in his pastoral ministry for many years to come. Let us hope
that in addition to his pastoral care, his charm, humor and warm
personality which we became accustomed to will prove to be an added boost
to the Parish of Socorro.

Whilst we say adieus but not good bye to Rev Fr. Antonio Lourenco
Fernandes, we warmly welcome into our fold Rev Fr Francisco Jacinto Dias
who takes over as our new Parish Priest of Ribandar to keep the flame
burning and continue to keep our spirits uplifted.

Adv. Aires Rodrigues

C/G-2, Shopping Complex

Ribandar Retreat

Ribandar – Goa – 403006

Mobile No: 9822684372

Office Tel  No: (0832) 2444012

Email: airesrodrigu...@gmail.com



You can also reach me on

Facebook.com/ AiresRodrigues

Twitter@rodrigues_aires

www.airesrodrigues.in

[Goanet] Schedule for Wednesday 30th June 2021

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Schedule for Wednesday 30th June 2021

12:00 AM
Rosary - Glorious Mysteries

12:27 AM
The Chosen - Introduction

12:31 AM
Inner Freedom - Talk by Sr Shilpa

12:49 AM
Prayer - Litany of the Saints

12:57 AM
My Music Videos - Golden Sunset - Kevin Mendes

1:03 AM
Mass in Konkani for  Tuesday

1:48 AM
Tell me a Story - Episode  6 - Cain kills Abel

1:57 AM
Prayer to the Holy Trinity - Prof. Nicholas D'Souza

1:59 AM
Poem - Vell -Tncia Pires

2:01 AM
Saibinnichi Ruzai -  Orkache Mister

2:27 AM
Devachem Utor  - 1 Korintkarank - Avesvor 16 - Vachpi Orlando D'Souza

2:34 AM
The  Chosen - Season 1 Episode 1

3:35 AM
Ximpientlim Motiam - Bhag 28  - Chovg Bhiku  - Fr Pratap Naik sj

3:43 AM
Testimony (Konkani)  - Violet Menezes

3:49 AM
St. Paul Alive Today - Daughters of St Paul

4:15 AM
Song - Someda Soon - By Ernie, Alan and Tony

4:20 AM
Kaltikai - Talk by Orlando D'Souza

4:48 AM
Our Father - Khasi

4:53 AM
Nokhetram - Michael Gracias chats with  Tiatr Mogi

5:23 AM
Fatherhood - Talk by Kenneth D'Sa

5:54 AM
Hymn - Teri Upasthiti - Savina &  Leon Gonsalves

6:01 AM
Street Providence - Interview by Basil Fernandes

6:34 AM
Health Matters - Dengue - Dr Marina Fernandes

6:57 AM
Sokalchem Magnnem  -  Rogtsakxi

7:00 AM
Konkani Mass Archbishop's House followed by Jivitacho Prokas

7:45 AM
Morning Prayer  -  Martyrs

7:50 AM
Bhajans 4

8:15 AM
Song - Someda Soon - By Ernie, Alan and Tony

8:20 AM
Through Mary to Jesus - Eps 3 - Fr Malcolm Barreto S.J.

8:40 AM
Talk on The Holy Spirit - Kenneth D'Sa

9:10 AM
The Chosen - Introduction

9:14 AM
Family - Talk by Godfrey Pereira

9:40 AM
Devachem Utor  - 1 Korintkarank - Avesvor 16 - Vachpi Orlando D'Souza

9:50 AM
Holy Spirit - Our Teacher - Talk by Colin Calmiano

10:25 AM
Goychea Futtbolachea Vostad Ep 4- Norberto Gonsalves interviewed by Daniel
de Souza

11:10 AM
Prayer : Benedictus

11:14 AM
Intercessions (English)

11:30 AM
Mass in English from SJVRC. Old Goa followed by Daily Flash

12:15 PM
Jivo Ani Amchea Ek Charan - Fr Emidio Pinto

12:48 PM
Biblical Hidden Heroes - Eps 5 - DCBA

12:52 PM
53rd Mando Festival - Sant Zuze Vazavhim Pavlam, Cortalim - Dance

1:03 PM
Health Matters - Cancer Treatment -  Dr Jean Louis De Menezes

1:30 PM
Give unto God what belongs to God - Talk by Glenn Nunes

1:59 PM
Couples Prayer (Konkani)

2:04 PM
Song - He's got the whole world in His hands

2:12 PM
Fuddarache Dive -  Melcia Lobo interviewed by Michael Gracias

2:38 PM
Song - Jezu - Cassino D'Costa

2:46 PM
Hymn - St Therese's H.S. Vasco

2:50 PM
Ask Dr Sweezel - Ice Pack or Moist pack?

2:54 PM
Bhagevont Zuze Vazachem Novena Magnnem

2:58 PM
On the Third Day - Eps 3 - Wealth out of Waste

3:23 PM
Prayer to the Holy Trinity - Prof. Nicholas D'Souza

3:25 PM
Magnificat (Konkani)

3:30 PM
Divine Mercy Chaplet (E)

3:42 PM
Music - Roy and Tammy - 3rd Anniv

3:57 PM
Bhurgeanlem Angonn - Bhag 12

4:00 PM
Rosary - Glorious Mysteries

4:27 PM
Our Father - French

4:30 PM
Senior Citizens Exercises - 5

4:46 PM
Tell me a story - Eps 29 -  Joseph in Prison

4:55 PM
Prayer for Healing from Cancer

5:00 PM
Praise and Worship - Neville Pinho

5:22 PM
Mary, Our Mother for all intercessors - Ivy Ferrao

6:00 PM
Angelus - English

6:02 PM
Prayer - Litany of the Saints

6:10 PM
Poem - Sant Juze Vaz - Goyche Noketr - Sandhya Fernandes

6:14 PM
Intercessions (Konkani)

6:30 PM
Konkani Mass from SJVRC followed by Jivitacho Prokas

7:15 PM
Homily on Feast of Our Lady of Fatima - Fr Joseph SIlva

7:28 PM
Prayer over Expectant Mothers - St Joseph Vaz

7:30 PM
Saibinnichi Ruzai -  Orkache Mister

7:56 PM
Hymn - Vakhann'nni Tuka - Stanley Severes

8:00 PM
St. Paul Alive Today - Daughters of St Paul

8:27 PM
Ximpientlim Motiam - Bhag  148  - Kaixanv -  Fr Pratap Naik sj

8:37 PM
New Creation in Christ - Talk by Dr Silvia Noronha

9:00 PM
Devachem Utor  - 2 Korintkarank - Avesvor 1 - Vachpi Tancia Pires

9:08 PM
Adoration -Learning  from Mary - Fr Henry Falcao

9:33 PM
Ratchem Magnem

9:49 PM
The  Chosen - Season 1 Episode 1

10:50 PM
Goal Post Ep 3 - Maria Rebello interviewed by Jovito Lopes

11:36 PM
Hymn - Zoi Jezu amchea Raia - Fr Seville Antao OFM(Cap)

11:39 PM
Session 8 - Pastoral Letter 2020-21

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[Goanet] Social media posts cause buzz over fate of Club Tito's, but what's the story?

[Goanet News]

Rajdeep Sardessai on India Today
https://youtu.be/BfhDTLaQkB0

Sold off Tito's due to harassment by babus: Goa nightspot owner
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/sold-off-titos-due-to-harassment-by-babus-goa-nightspot-owner/articleshow/83941221.cms


Ricardo D'Souza on the Modi Sarkar
https://www.facebook.com/BJP4Goa/posts/2342990369094455

Re: [Goanet] Deserves Deletion

[Mervyn Lobo]

On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 04:05:34 p.m. CDT, Roland Francis 
 wrote:

Mervyn, you must have noted my remark about 80 percent of posts that deserve 
deletion.

Thanks for writing and providing an example of what I meant.





Roland,

Your comment remind me of Marx. 

He once said, "I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.


Mervyn 

[Goanet] India's version of Astra-Zeneca COVID vaccine rejected by EU

[mj preston]

The European Union did not to include the Indian-made Covishield vaccine 
– a locally produced copy of the AstraZeneca shot – in its vaccine 
passport program.


On Monday, Adar Poonawalla, the head of the Serum Institute of India 
(SII) said 
  the 
European Medicines Agency (EMA) had elected to exclude Covishield in the 
list of vaccines sanctioned within the EU scheme.
The program, which, from July 1, opens European borders to people who 
have been inoculated with approved EU vaccines, includes AstraZeneca’s 
vaccines produced in the EU and the UK but not the identical version 
made by the SII, the world’s largest vaccine manufacturer. The list also 
includes the Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson shots.
There may be fear or doubts in the minds of Europeans as to  whether the 
vaccine may contain cow urine or some other unauthorised substance. Or 
there may be doubts about the procedures used. India has no great 
scientific reputation and the uneducated Government leaders like Modi 
with his flowing beard hardly inspire confidence in foreigners.
A few weeks ago, a new book by the former head of Doon School, Dehra, 
now based at a Singapore University, claimed that China cannot regard 
India as an equal because of its limited achievements and chaotic 
culture.

Eddie

[Goanet] Remembering Alfred Tavares

[Roland Francis]

A great idea from you Linken, about attempting to create an informal record of 
the life and times of Alfred Tavares. 

I could gather as much information, anecdotes and experiences of relatives, 
friends and even strangers whose lives crossed with Alfred in any way, even 
across space.

I would welcome any communication however insignificant it might seem that 
might be a small part of the jigsaw puzzle of Alfred’s life.

I would appreciate even being given the contacts of a person or persons, 
including living relatives,  who who might be able to contribute to this 
gathering of information either thorough Goanet or my email.

If you agree to it Linken, I can then present this raw heap to you for refining 
it into Alfred’s biography. You will do a good job of it.

Can we set the ball rolling with FN and Bernice please?

Linken Fernandes wrote;
I would lean towards a biography first, and think one could perhaps be knocked 
off in a few months by (hint) a friend with as facile a pen as has been seen 
over the years in the pages here. I, of course, would selfishly consider the 
meat and bones of the bio for a protagonist rendered even more larger than life 
in a work of fiction.

Roland Francis
roland.fran...@gmail.com

[Goanet] Rob Peter to pay Paul

[Nelson Lopes]

ROB PETER  TO PAY PAUL
Today is the feast of Apostles PETER  and PAUL
THE former  most trusted  apostles of Jesus even though he denied christ
thrice  as foretold by jesus before cock crows.He repented and was forgiven
He is called the rock of faith upon which Christianity is   built
On the other hand Paul was the fierce prosecutor of Christians and was also
an apostle after the death of christ.On  the streets of Damascus he was
temporarily blinded, Jesus asking him why he is the prosecutor ?
It opened his eyes and became the most enlightened  to  propagate  faith
He was familiar with Greek and Roman cultures which enabled him to be great
preacher and writer
Why they are linked together is possibly because both of them meet very
closely  in their faith and propagation
The phrase was in existence about 6000 years  and appears  to be in use on
1540 and may  also have been in use  in 13 century
The dynamics between finances  of cathedral of Peter and cathedral of Paul
are the most likely reasons why their honoured together
The phrase means to borrow from  Peter  to pay the debts of Paul
In other words to settle one debt immediately by creating another  and
getting relief
Fortunately  the phrase cannot be reversed  to rob Paul to pay  Peter
There is no religious  connections in the use of this phrase
It has been widely applied in religious significance thereby meaning to say
that act of defrauding the rich to pay the poor is not acceptable in  the
principles of faith even though it is a good act
and will not be condoned
The Govt  of the day is doing exactly the same and taking credit for
develooment and progress. There is no equity  between fairness and justice
or equilibrium  between doing good by hurting another.Such acts and
behaviour are not praise worthy no matter the magnitude of goodness  done
and has to be condemned  as wrong per se.
Konkani baxen  oxi ek munim Assameza voilem  kennem  kaddun sagvadd
korinaka
It is wrong and will not be forgiven or accepted if our acts of charity are
as the result of  hurting other to win the admiration of the deprived or
destitute
It has to be a win win win situation
The popularity of this phrase in common parlance  has been greatly
enhanced by association with these  greatest , most revered saints of
catholic church.It has nothing to do with paying  debt disrobbing
,diverting ill-gotten wealth  to do charity and thus gain fame  popularity
and is mostly  applied  to politicians and filthy rich using wealth
created by deceit  cheating  ,squeezing the rights of the downtrodden
Nelson lopes

[Goanet] ] 50 Years of My Journey in the Society of Jesus

[Mervyn Maciel]

Dear Fr. Pratab,

Firstly, my sincere congrats on your Golden Jubilee with the Jesuits.
You have obviously used your God-given talents to the full and
for the benefit of the  Society at large; here I am thinking especially
about your important contribution in the field of our *amchi bhas.*
Future generations will applaud you for your selfless service.
 I have not had the pleasure of meeting you but have followed
some of your postings and was particular interested in the
Konkani course since my granddaughter(who lives and works in
Berlin) is very keen to learn our mother tongue.
Although my own brother(the late Fr. Joseph Maciel, S.J.)
was also a Jesuit, he could hardly boast of the many attributes
of your own life so well listed in your post.  i also love all
the quotations in your post!
Once again - I wish you well Father and hope that the Good
Lord will spare you for many more years to see through your ambition
of having your *Amchi Bhas Xikat *course completed.
I shall sing a silent Te Deum in your honour.
Ad multos annos, dear Father.



Mervyn Maciel

[Goanet] Zero Sum Game

[Tony de Sa]

Dear Roland,

What goes round must come round!

Tony
>>>5. Revenge in the hearts of many Afghanis who have lost innocent family
to American strikes will lurk in their hearts to one day manifest itself in
an incident similar to what started it all<<<

Re: [Goanet] Canada's treatment of Native children

[mj preston]

I see that you agree with the term 'cultural genocide', a term used by 
the white led Truth & Reconciliation Commission (Report 2015)
You say that the children died of loneliness, inadequate care, harsh 
discipline or disease but were not directly killed.
How would you know what really happened without further investigation or 
testimony?
The Anglos are masters with a versatile language like English at 
inventing categories that absolve themselves from blame.


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Children were separated from their families, some of them as young as 
three.


Can you imagine the trauma suffered by the children, deprived of the 
warmth and close contact with their parents? And what of teen girls in 
their menstrual years? Did they receive adequate advice and protection?
In the schools, children were forbidden to speak their language or 
practice their own culture. Many children also suffered physical and 
sexual abuse. Over 150,000 children passed through the school system and 
the last school was closed as recently as 1996.
Trudeau who is Catholic met the Pope in 2017 and said that he had a 
"deeply personal and wide-ranging, thoughtful conversation with the 
leader of my own faith".
“I told him how important it is for Canadians to move forward on real 
reconciliation with the indigenous peoples and I highlighted how he 
could help by issuing an apology,” Trudeau told reporters after meeting 
the pope in Rome.
PM Justin Trudeau admitted that that successive Canadian governments 
"have failed" indigenous people and promised to outline a "national 
action plan" to tackle the violence.
But the holy man of the Europe, Pope Francis, said he was pained but 
refused to apologise. Is there were legal implications, should a top 
religious leader fear and dodge them? After all, he has accepted the 
titles Supreme Pontiff and Vicar of Christ. How could Christ's Vicar be 
a weakling and coward?
In any case, do clerical or government apologies mean anything without 
return of vast stolen land and payment of  trillions of dollars in 
reparations? Were any of the white priests and nuns punished?


Women and girls suffered tremendously.
Pamela Palmater, chair inIndigenous Governance, Ryerson university, told 
RT that she favoured political pressure on Ottawa to"do something and 
toactually investigate state actors who are complicit or directly 
involved in themurders, exploitation and disappearances of indigenous 
women and girls."
"Rrampant violence againstindigenous people had been ignored for 
decades" she said.
"It's almostlike the #MeToo movement when mso-ansi-language:EN">women 
have not been believed when they were raped orsexually assaulted. For 
indigenous women and girls it had been evenworse."
mso-ansi-language:EN">According to Royal Canadian Mounted Police 
estimates backin 2014, over 1,000 aboriginal women were killed between 
1980 and 2012.

mso-ansi-language:EN">
The Chinese government demanded at the UN that the Canadian government 
should open a full investigation of the violence against native people 
and violation of the human rights.
In contrast, India did not issue any statement on the scandal of the 
Native children of Canada.


Had Modi even heard of the scandal or was he preoccupied with his gods 
and godmen, cows and caste, and petty political issues?


Eddie


-- Original Message --
From: "Roland Francis" 
To: goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Saturday, 26 Jun, 21 At 23:33
Subject: [Goanet] 751 Graves in Residential Schools
Eddie,
 Although you have not qualified the word genocide with “cultural” it 
is important to call it what it is “cultural genocide” or else one might 
get the impression the whole race of indigenous children of the First 
Nations were slaughtered or killed.
The sins of the white priests and nuns running these schools might have 
been horror-provoking but the graves being found were not of children 
that were killed by those in authority whatever else might have been the 
indignities heaped on them.
Those graves contain the bodies of children that died of loneliness or 
insufficient care or tortuous discipline, even of disease but they were 
not directly killed.
That is the narrative that is known to us so far, unless the Church 
agrees to open its records and we know otherwise.
Autopsies on bones are not possible because in the Indigenous culture, 
burial mounds (graves) are sacred, worthy of worship and no one will be 
allowed to work on them. Analyses of remains might have told us the 
story of those buried.
While the Catholic Church does not apologize for the treatment of these 
wards in their schools, the government on several occasions has 
expressed public remorse. The Church might be afraid of the legal 
ramifications, the Government has no such fears.

Roland.
 Eddie D’Sa wrote:
 751 unmarked graves believed to include the burial sites 

[Goanet] Felix Dias-achi Prenna divpi yexosvi kanni

[Fausto DaCosta]

*Felix Dias-achi Prenna divpi yexosvi kanni*



*Fausto V. Da Costa*

Junachie 6ver, 2021, Mumbointlean ek bhou dukhest khobor aili. Mumbointlie
David & Company-cho sthapnnar ani dhoni, Felix John Dias (1936-2021),
auchit hea sonvsarak ontorlo.  Monantuch mhunnlem, “…anik ek Mumbointli
Gõykar sonstha kosoll’lli!”. Oxio ek-ek korun Mumbointlio mhan Gõykar
veokti sorot astat ani tanchea zagear novio sonstha-sarkio veokti nirmann
zainaslolean Mumbointlem Gõykarponn osokt zait veta. Magir, oslio veokti
ghoddoitat kai ghoddon yetat ho prosn amchem mon ghansaita.  Hio mhan
veokti amkam prernna diunk komi poddttat kai?  Vo ami tanchea jivitantlean
prernna mellounk komi poddttat kai? Dor ekleak, dor ekleachem.

Felix Dias, hachi murti lhan asli tori tachem kar’ya ani kirti mhan hem
konnacheanuch nakarunk zainam.  Ek sado ani bhiddest (*unassuming*) monis
to. Aplea okhondd vaura udexim apleak, aplea kuttumbak ani aplea somazak
khub kitem mellounk pavlolo.  Tachi kotha ek ‘rags to riches’ kanni
mhollear otitai zaunchi nam, punn alaiti nhoi bogor aplea koxtti
vaurantlean, zo tannem morover kelo.  Tori tannem aplem sadeponn ani
lhanvikai mat sodanch sambhauli. Jivitachea rostear upraslolia add-melliank
 dhittayen fuddo korun tannem apli yexosvi kanni ghoddoun haddli.

Tacho bapui vortolo ek artivont resperachi nhesonn xinvpi dorji ani famad
tiatrist Bombaincho, Miss Julie. Aplea bapaichea paulamni cholonk Felix-ak
naka aslem ani ghorchi poristhiti bhou goribkayechi aslolean, 12 vorsancho
astanam Kandolle, Gõy aplem ghor-dar ani avoi-bhavddank soddun Felix,
Bombaim ailo ani kam’ ani xikop sangatak korun tannem 1953 vorsa *Engineering
College*-int xikpa khatir melloilolo proves soddun, aplo khasgi dhondo suru
kelo, pustokam ani ‘stationery’ chhappacho.

Felix 18 vorsancho astanam tacho bapui somplo. Taka anik dog lhan bhavddam
aslolean tanchi zobabdari Felix-achea khandar poddli.  Avoik Gõychea
ghoracho sambhall korunk dovrun tannem aplea bhavddank xikxon diunche
khatir Bombaint haddlim.  1960 vorsa tannem ‘David & Co.’ ho chhapkhanno
suru kelo ani urlolo magir itihas. Kazarachim karddam chhaptoleank ‘David &
Company’ xivai anik kitlim-i karddam korpianchim nanvam sangot zalearui
akhrek giraikak zai fokot ‘David & Co.’, nhoich fokot Gõykarank ani
kristanvank bogor Parsi, Gujrati, Moratthi ani Monglluri lokank legit.
David & Co-chim kazaram karddam Afrikek, Australiak, Inglanddak ani
Germany-k legit pavtat. David & Co.-che  zaite fantte Mumboint tannem
ubharle ani Gõyantui hi komponi vistarli, ji tacho bhav choloita.  Xivai,
‘White Rose’ hem kazarachim nhesnnam ani her kazarachio vostu toyar
kortolem xop tannem Dhobitalao, Mumboint sthaplem.

Felix Dias ek yexosvi dhondekar hem amkam mhotvachem aslem tori tachem
khaxeleponn mhollear Gõychea somaza khatir ani khas korun Konknni bhaxe
khatir tannem kel’lo vaur.   Ani hea tachea vaura vixim zaiteank ghoddye
khobor aschinam.  Konknnni potrank, masikank ani Konknni dobaje ghoddun
haddunk Felix-baban sodanch aite-monan adhar ani sohokar dila.  Oslea
kamamni tachi modot magonk yetoleank tannem kednanch ritea hatamni portunk
nant. Amchean kednanch visronk zainam, jednam ‘The Goa Times’ satalleacho
karbhari, Fortunato Fernandes somplo tednam hea satalleachem bhou purvilem
chhappachem mexin fokot Fortunatakuch cholounk yetalem.  Tednam ami Felix
Dias-ak ‘The Goa Times’ chhapunk magnni keli ani tannem aite-monan amchi
magnni svikarli ani mhunnlem, “Hanv vhoddlo monis zaunk pavla to ‘Goa
Times’ chhapkhanneak ani Fortunatak lagun. Survatek mhoje koddem
chhapkhanno naslo tednam hanga hanv regist chhapun ghetalom ani mhojea lhan
xopar vhoron viktalom.  Hacho mhaka vhodd upkar asa.”  Uprant ‘The Goa
Times’ bond poddosor tannem vella-vellar hem satallem chhapun dilem.

Mumboint Gõykaranchio sonstha asat tankam Felix Dias-an sodanch aplea
sohokaracho palov dila, zanv The Goan Institute, Society of Our Lady of
Piety, Konkani Bhasha Mandal, Goan Sports Association (GSA),  The Goan
Hindu Association, Goan Review Art Foundation (GRAF), adi.  GSA-cho khub
kallak to odheokx aslo.

Anik xevttak tachem vhoddantlem vhodd kar’ya mhollear Gõykaranche Kudd (
*Club*), je ghoravale (*landlord*) kuddvaleank fottoun ani ordea mollak
aplea tabeant korunk sodtale tednam te kudd rakhche ani sambhallche mhonn
Felix-baban mhotvachem yogdan dilam. Aplea probhavi somporka udexim tannem
‘Federation of Goans Clubs’ sthapun tache vorvim  soglleam kuddancho ekvott
ghoddun haddun kaim kudd ghorvaleachie bokik poddpache vattaile.

Hea mhan Mumboichea Gõykarak adeus kortanam tachea otmeak sorginchem sukh
ami aunddetanv ani tachie dukhest potinik, putank ani dhuvank amchi khalti
buzvonn ditanv. Tachea jivitantlean fuddlie Gõykar pillgiek prernna mellom
mhonn magtanv.

Re: [Goanet] Remembering Alfred Tavares

[Bernice Pereira]

This description of Alfie is so apt. He was a very dear friend of mine. 

Bernice Pereira


Sent from my iPhone

> On 28-Jun-2021, at 2:18 PM, Linken Fernandes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronald,
> 
> That's a warm and generous summing up of someone who, I conjecture, may
> have been a cherished friend.
> 
> A "rebel against tradition -- a lovable rascal and rogue -- with a
> refreshing sense of humour -- someone who cocked a snook at authority, be
> it colonial or Indian -- who treated "low caste" people with the same
> regard as the bhatcars in his native village."
> 
> Sounds to me like this could be a pitch to a publisher for a biography of a
> Goan (with a slight Bombay touch) typical of the 1960s and '70s. It could
> also be a writer's jotting for a flamboyant character in a novel set amidst
> the retreat of the Portuguese and the arrival of other Indians into an
> innocent, happy-go-lucky, tropical paradise.
> 
> I would lean towards a biography first, and think one could perhaps be
> knocked off in a few months by (hint) a friend with as facile a pen as has
> been seen over the years in the pages here. I, of course, would selfishly
> consider the meat and bones of the bio for a protagonist rendered even more
> larger than life in a work of fiction.
> 
> There is, of course, a third option. A bunch of Alfred's pals and auld
> acquaintance dispersed over the planet keep their tipple of choice at hand
> as they type or dictate reminiscences and anecdotes for an informal
> festschrift. (On second thought, the tipple may come only after the day's
> labour is done, like in the tavernas of yore). This should give him
> something to chuckle about as he regales good friend Lucifer with roasts of
> all the church-going Goans ("Pad Vigar, tum inga?!") streaming in through
> the fiery gates. And Lucifer wondering how a place so tiny can throw up
> such a bountiful harvest of rebels against Authority, who head straight for
> the bar no sooner they cross (!) the threshold. Little does he know that
> they prefer his place to the other one because, as the hymn in the pub
> goes, "In heaven there's no beer..."

Re: [Goanet] Stigmatising covid patients

[Bernice Pereira]

Yes. Very true

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28-Jun-2021, at 9:09 PM, Nelson Lopes  wrote:
> 
> In the past leprosy was considered as curse.It was presumed to be
> hereditary, punishment for sins.Even though it is caused by germs
> ,curable leprosy patients are  still segrated, unemployed  and have  to
> fend for  themselves.   Baba Ampte and his family worked all his life to
> ameliorate their lives. The stigma was so strong, they were abandoned to
> die in the wilderness, had to wear special clothes   ,walk on designated
> paths and shout ringing the bells about their scourge  as warning to others
> Christ touched them and cured
> Now are we seeing of repeat of this phenomenon with those afflicted with
> covid,recovered   ,doctorsnurses  reverentially labelled as the angels
> People are loath  to accept death due to covid or even openly admit death
> as consequence. While in leprosy progression was slow with deformation  of
> parts of body  and known to  be contagious
> COVID19 is both contagious and infectious a due to mutating virus and hence
> people out of fear avoid  such patients. Covid infected people recover
> and  it is  neither a punishment or curse.Even visits to covid infected
> persons  and attendance at funeral rites,  condolence visits are very
> restricted by so called  SOP.Every death is suspiciously looked upon as
> covid case and is uttered in hush tones
> While precautions are natural and normal
> stigmatising them is most unwarranted.Similarly stigma  is attached to
> hijaras,  unfortunately the greatest numbers are in India  .All such
> persons  need to be treated with respect,  dignity and as humans
> Nelson Lopes
> Chinchinim