Re: [Goanet] Viral letter supposedly penned by Parrikar

[Dan Driscoll]

Yeah, but of course even if it was written by Steve Jobs and attributed to
Parrikar it can be seen as 'A *REAL* FAKE'--- cf. Holly Golightly,
BREAKFAST AT TIFFANYS.

On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 1:01 PM Bernice Pereira 
wrote:

> I’ll freak out if I see this message again. This message was written by
> Steve Jobs when he was suffering from advanced pancreatic cancer. This is
> utter plagiarism.
>
> Bernice
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 23-Mar-2019, at 2:00 AM, Frederick Noronha <
> fredericknoron...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Bangalore Mirror
> > 
> > @BangaloreMirror
> > 
> > 
> > A viral letter supposed to have been penned by an ailing #ManoharParrikar
> >  during
> his
> > treatment in the US has gone viral once again in the wake of his demise.
> > https://t.co/8c8SlqkZDp
> >
> > [PS: Strangely enough, even apparent BJP supporters are circulating this
> > fake!]
>

Re: [Goanet] AN OPEN LETTER TO VIJAI SARDESAI

[Dan Driscoll]

Even at great distance I take an interest in the socio/political equations
surrounding Goa, having resided there for almost thirty years with a spouse
who considered herself a 'Gandhian' but whose 'ancestry' involved Catholic
Colonial. My over-view these days inclines to the notion that Goa should
have 'special status' somewhat analogous to what Pierre Elliot Trudeau for
Province of Quebec, thus avoiding 'secession'. The 'economic development
zone' template is 'necessary but not sufficient'.

Vijai Sardessai, like many in similar circumstances, may have found himself
'between a rock and a hard place', on 'horns of a dilemma'. Not being well
enough informed, I can only conjecture what the 'horns' are in the
ontological perspective; but it might be helpful to analyse the complete
picture towards determining what that 'dilemma' really is.

I think that in the 'ontological perspective' too, the blindfold goddess
will finally balance the account; Goa served colonialism by enabling
mercantile interests to send gunboats and opium to China & Burma. Payback
Time will come---"The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind
exceeding fine".



On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Aires Rodrigues  wrote:

> Dear Vijai,
>
> I wrote to you last year after your grand betrayal of Goa and Goans on 11th
> March 2017. You did not care to reply but as a true Goenkar, I humbly write
> to you once again, a year later on the eve of 2018 Easter Sunday with a
> heavy heart, a very heavy heart indeed! But, I have no choice … Having once
> been your very close friend, in speaking out I may be hurting you, your two
> MLAs Jayesh Salgaonkar, Vinod Paliencar and our common friend Rohan
> Khaunte, but by maintaining silence I would be hurting thousands of Goans
> across Goa and also failing in my duty to stand up for something that is
> intrinsically wrong.
>
> The people of Goa had thought and hoped that you were the future of Goa.
> They were all for your promised : Goem, Goenkar & Goenkarponn. In 2017 they
> supported you thinking that you were a beacon of hope to fight the
> Corruption, nepotism and the U turns of the BJP.
>
> Goans were also very upset with the Congress for the manner you were then
> ill-treated. I had myself publicly condemned the Congress for it. But last
> March the audacity in which you betrayed your Goem, you shocked every
> Goenkar, and you chose to selfishly forsake your very own Goenkarponn.
>
> In the lightning speed in which you selfishly embraced the BJP overnight,
> you committed the mother of all U turns. You disgraced yourself, your
> family, your Constituency and most importantly your Goa. The great Goan and
> your uncle, the late Ravindra bab Kelekar and your late dear sister our
> great poet Madhavi must have rolled in heavenly abode over the manner you
> so rashly and cunningly took Goa and Goans for a ride.
>
> You cannot and will never ever be trusted by Goans again. Even by your now
> New York parked idol Manohar Gopalkrishna Parrikar, who as he always does,
> will treat you as a purchasable commodity to be used and disposed off.  I
> am infact stunned that you dared trust Manohar Parrikar, someone who had
> publicly spewed very nasty venom against you and even tried his best to
> implicate and arrest you in that  Louis Berger case. You, Jayesh
> Salgaonkar, Vinod Paliencar and Rohan Khaunte have chosen to face the
> public wrath and condemnation for the rest of your lives.
>
> Your’ll have deeply hurt every Goan. But despite your betrayal, Goa will
> overcome and survive to see Goem, Goenkar and Goenkarponn.
>
> Let me leave you with those worthy words of Billy Graham, “When wealth is
> lost, nothing is lost; when health is lost, something is lost; when
> character is lost, all is lost”.
>
> Your very now heartbroken and once great well-wisher,
>
>
>
> Aires Rodrigues
>
> Advocate High Court
>
> C/G-2, Shopping Complex
>
> Ribandar Retreat,
>
> Ribandar – Goa – 403006
>
> Mobile No: 9822684372
>
> Office Tel  No: (0832) 2444012
>
> Email: airesrodrigu...@gmail.com
>
>  Or
>
>airesrodrig...@yahoo.com
>
> You can also reach me on
>
> Facebook.com/ AiresRodrigues
>
> Twitter@rodrigues_aires
>
>
> www.airesrodrigues.com
>

Re: [Goanet] Fw: WRONG DIRECTION

[Dan Driscoll]

Always interested when John Eric Gomes pops up on Goanet. It's likely that
we are not 'headed in the right direction', but perhaps the reflection that
we should look at is the fact that WE are headed in 'a direction', and that
the point reached by now is that 'WE' are self-aware that there is a
direction and that it comes down to a choice by US.

So, while the great & the powerful assume jurisdiction in this domain the
ultimate result will stem from our very mundane decisions made on a daily
basis; my spiritual guru Pierre Teilhard de Chardin stresses the point that
'there is no moral higher ground'; political, social & cultural evolution
obeys the same cosmic laws as 'created light, gravity, thermodynamics, the
whole gin-bhang.

In terms of the hammer striking the anvil, it gets down to 'statistics'
(what Teilhard refers to as 'the play of large numbers'). This proceeds
from the Darwinian-evolutionary principle of 'groping'---in pursuit of
getting a 'foothold', the vine sends out 'tendrils'---this is what's
happening now; sociocultural & political tendrils are hitting a new 'high'
on the growth-curve; the wrong-headed ones will not make it---but some few
of the tendrils will make it, and Teilhard significantly adds the qualifier
'INFALLIBLY'.

I venture to submit that it is this comprehension of infallibility that
lies at the root of the Dogma promulgated in 1854.
















On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 10:09 AM, John Eric Gomes  wrote:

>
> WHERE ARE  WE HEADING?
> The whole world is talking about the horrific rape of Asifa as seen by me
> on local channels and on Al Jazeera, BBC, CNN television and comments I
> read made by the Woman United Nations Chief! This rape was evidently a
> planned deed to strike mortal fear in the victims, because of hate for a
> certain nomad community that was unwelcome and involved BJP MLAs, police
> and even lawyers preventing officials from lodging a FIR. More
> disgracefullly by mobs waving the national flag! The PM was at last forced
> to speak, FIRs registered, arrests made and Supreme Court warned the
> lawyers not to obstruct justice! In the UK, students were not permitted to
> ask these questions and our PM thereafter at a public address there stated
> that rape is rape, and must not be politicized! Today media reports and
> Television shows live, open hate speeches, polarization and canvassing in
> the name of caste or religion! We find some innocent person being arrested
> by police for their disliked opinion on social media, but no action is
> taken on these rabid elements in power.openly giving inciting hate
> speeches. Newspaper headlines state Central Government ready with an
> Ordinance if Supreme Court does not accept review petetion! So where then
> is respect for Law and Order? Nothing is discussed in Parliament.
> Completely vote bank politics. Right is Might! Are we a Democracy or
> Mobocracy?  Are we heading in the right direction?.
>

Re: [Goanet] [GOABOOKCLUB] The Ganja Coast (George Sansi Mystery #2) by Paul Mann

[Dan Driscoll]

Interesting that this narrative is surfacing at a point when 'recreational
cannabis' is about to become legal in Canada. In the late '60s I worked in
a milieu that made plentiful use of 'the green herb', but when dear spouse
brought me to Goa for retirement I found that (for a 'foreigner') it was a
case of 'water, water everywhere nor any drop to drink'.

As of past months I begin to comprehend that any substance can be either
'used' or 'abused'; the point that 'where there are drugs there will always
be violence' may be truth up to a point; but there is violence with or
without 'drugs'. A Counsel that I'm promoting to the Authorities here is
that 'spiritual guides' should be involved in the 'recreational use
process'; the medical & juridical people have already provided proof that
they cannot do it alone. My concern for the situation in Canada is that
'the money changers in the temple' are about to take over.

Bob Marley's spin on it was that King of Ethiopia was  a 'reincarnation of
Christ' and that Cannabis is a Sacrament. I rather think that a
blessing-or-curse consequence depends on a state of mind --- if one ingests
simply for the 'kicks', then kicks is what one will get; but if taken as
'God's Gift' then the heavy molecules work to kick up consciousness to a
higher level.

One of the common 'effects' is 'the time-warp', with another way of
'seeing' the total equation of history-in-duration---the total amounts to
more than the sum of its parts. My spiritual guru (Pierre Teilhard de
Chardin) refers to the metabolic effects of many botanical and biological
substances as  a 'widening of the aperture'. William James in his Varieties
of Religious Experience made the same point---to include alcohol.

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Frederick Noronha <
fredericknoron...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The Ganja Coast (George Sansi Mystery #2)
> 
> by
> Paul Mann 
>  3.88  ·   Rating details
>  ·  83
> Ratings
> 
>  ·  9 Reviews
> 
> A sleepy community on the Indian coast, Goa is a paradise for the
> international hippie brigade, drawn by the golden beaches and endless
> supply of cheap dope. Where there's drugs, of course, there's violence, but
> Goa is used to a certain manageable level of brutality, used to mellowing
> its impact in a haze of pot smoke. Lately, though, the ugliness has gotten
> worse. Professionals have moved in on the drug trade, and even the sweetest
> smoke can't cover the stink of corruption that's pouring from the highest
> levels of local government. George Sansi, the half-Indian/half-English cop
> from Bombay (who debuted in Season of the Monsoon), thinks he's seen about
> the worst the world can offer. But when he gets a call to help clean up
> Goa, he finds himself unprepared for the grimly dark side of paradise.
> (less) 
> * * *
> Deon Stonehouse
>  rated it it
> was amazing
> Shelves: books-set-in-india
> 
> , great-writing-mystery
> 
> Mystery lovers will find a complex, fast paced puzzle in The Ganja Coast
> by Paul Mann. George Sansi has left the police department to practice law,
> but before he gets started his ex-boss needs him to go undercover one last
> time. George heads to Goa with his girlfriend Anne, a western reporter.
> They are pretending to be a vacationing couple, helping to George to stay
> anonymous. He knows he will be in danger but figures Anne will be safe at
> their resort. He should have known better, soon Anne is right in the thick
> of things. Sorting out corruption in India is always a challenge, it
> becomes nigh on impossible in Goa. The children of the west still hang out
> on the beaches, aging hippies smoking ganja. All the beautiful beach front
> property could be put to better use than housing a bunch of low paying
> counter culture types from the west. All that sand and ocean could turn a
> tidy profit for development. Meanwhile the murder rate is rising in Goa,
> corruption is running amok, something needs to be done and George Sansi is
> just the man for the task. The murder of a young child raises the stakes,
> Sansi is getting into truly dark water. (less)
> 
> flag
> 
> Like
> 

Re: [Goanet] Can you help us... in Vancouver?

[Dan Driscoll]

Fred, I have a friend in Vancouver who belongs to the Religious Order that
I was in---fellow seminarian. I forwarded your mail to him, but will leave
it to him to make the contact.

On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Frederick Noronha <
fredericknoron...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A young Goan student (whom I could personally vouch for, and is very
> conscientious about work and life in general) is planning on getting
> admission to the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, Canada.
>
> If you could help in any small way to let the student settle into the new
> city, that would be great. Kindly get in touch via
> fredericknoron...@gmail.com
> --
> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> _/
> _/  FN* फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا‎ +91-9822122436
> _/  RADIO GOANA: https://archive.org/details/@fredericknoronha
> _/
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>

Re: [Goanet] Fw: EASE OF DOING BUSINESS

[Dan Driscoll]

Yes; it becomes evident that we are reaching a new Tower of Babel
situation, with 'Everybody talking and nobody listening' (Bob Dylan, HARD
RAIN IS GONNA FALL).

In mid-sixties I was teaching this song to High School kids, and was
reprimanded by my school Principal for doing it. Now that Dylan has 'a
Nobel for Literature' I feel a little vindicated.

Jesus drove the moneychangers from the Temple with a 'whip of knotted
cords'. If the cultural replication for that can be found, perhaps the bank
management people can be brought into line.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 6:14 AM, John Eric Gomes  wrote:

>
> EASE OF DOING BUSINESS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION !
> The government is going hammer and tongs about the ease of doing business,
> but what about easing the bureautratic hurdles in the common man's lives?
> The goverment aught to make the citizen's lives easier with efficient use
> of computers and digitization by enacting administrative reforms urgently.
> The infrastructure also is not upto the mark. The government it appears has
> not learnt anything from the chaos caused  during devasting  implementatiof
> demonitization and GST! At the post office are huge queues and such a waste
> of time due computers slow or sometimes printer out of order for days on
> end. Same problems I've witnessed at the banks and most government offices!
> My plight at this main nationalised bank is illustrative. I wanted to
> transfer my live account from the main nationalized branch in Panaji to
> same bank branch in Porvorim, filling up the form for this transfer at the
> Porvorim branch. After a week it has not been done. I ring up the Panaji
> manager. He is new and does not know where Porvorim is. Fair enough. He
> wants a whole lot of information, bank code etc which I give. Another week,
> no action. So I as a senior citizen, have to undertake, in this monsoon and
> flooding weather, a trip to the bank in Panaji, fill up the same form
> there, again necessary to give  xerox of Aadhar, Pan proof and so on. Same
> bank and I am not closing the account, or openning a new one. The bank
> already has my full KYC details, phone number etc. This is harassment.
> Unprepardness of the system, lack of clarity is causing havoc in the
> common man's lives. My life is unnecessarily being made miserable under the
> guise of security, black money, ease of doing business, government
> convenience etc which appears on the way to make Goa with impunity, another
> Mumbai as a flooded concrete lawless jungle. Incidentally note that self
> attestation of Aadhar/Pan etc asked for everywhere these days (or you don't
> get the service) can be misused and dangerous. A supreme court lawyer has
> advised if you have to, under your signature, every time as a precaution
> mention the date, purpose and "not to be used for other purpose".
>

Re: [Goanet] Novel mushroom pigment discovered in Goa

[Dan Driscoll]

The latest 'mushroom book' making waves in this Western Hemisphere now
raises question in my mind as to whether any of the type exist in
Goa/India. The book is authored by Michael Pollan (HOW TO CHANGE YOUR MIND)
and its subject is 'psychoactive' (Psilocybin) content in 'LBMs' (little
brown mushrooms). They are found here in my home district of Atlantic
Canada, though they are a bit tricky to identify.

However there is a 'pigment factor' there too; gentle pressure on the stem
that shows purplish/red is indication that the Psilocybin molecule is
there. Pollan's contention is that while powerful psychoactives like LSD
and organic derivatives of certain fungi and cacti have been generally
repressed by law, there is currently a 'rethink' underway.

Pollan and not a few others now contend that these 'heavy molecules' not
only make 'sick people well' but 'well people better'. I mentioned this to
my Doctor, but it would appear that the Medical people have time only for
what the 'pharmaceutical industry' has designated as 'prescription drug'.
Even in the context of 'Recreational Cannabis' (about to become legal here
in Canada) Doctor asks me, "Can one get high on cannabis edibles?"

The Pollan book was reviewed in Maclean's (Canadian National Magazine)
recently, and is available for on-line purchase.

On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Goa Desc  wrote:

> --
> Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your
> family members, relatives, neighbours and friends.
> Help other CONSUMERS to be better informed.
> ---
>
> Novel mushroom pigment discovered in Goa
>
> http://epaper.navhindtimes.in/PageImages/storyImages/2018/07/15/89164.jpg
>
> -
> The Navhind Times 15/7/18
> --
>

Re: [Goanet] Goans Suck Up A Lot.

[Dan Driscoll]

I'm beginning to realize that the 'diaspora' of this world (Babylonians/and
the Rest) must, in the words of an old Jesuit (Fr. Albert Mendonca) whom I
used to visit in Goa, circa 1980,  'LEAVE EVERYTHING BEHIND'.

So, as the Ministers used to say to the Journalists in Goa, "the question
should not arise". But, does it? I'd be In full agreement with Fredrich N.,
that the skirmishes not be *waged* on Internet, but in context of
'Journalism' it would be interesting to get 'the facts'.

Having resided in Goa for half a lifetime, in partnership with one of 'Old
Goa Family' I can relate at first hand the hassles involved with
disposition of property in Goa. Just getting into the venue in Mapusa (a
used furniture store, for the most part) was enough to bring on atrial fib.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 7:04 PM, Frederick Noronha <
fredericknoron...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 at 02:19, Eugene Correia 
> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe some Goans in Toronto want to meet visiting Ministers or MLAs to
> > request help regarding their property or other matters in Goa.
> > I met few of them because I was invited for meetings or get-togethers. At
> a
>
> Eugene, please don't use Goanet to fight your personal battles. Thanks, FN.
> On behalf of Goanet.
>

Re: [Goanet] TERRIBLY WRONG

[Dan Driscoll]

But might I add that the problems of 'governance' are becoming 'planetary'
in their scope, and not confined to large federated republics like India.
In Canada it is being increasingly evident---in medical, educational,
juridical---all across the board. I beg leave to invoke a principle of
Cosmology here, since I have for long been a 'Reader' of Pierre Teilhard de
Chardin who is becoming generally recognized as 'cutting edge' in the
domain of post-Darwinian philosophy.

Teilhard enunciates what he calls 'the Law of Complexity/Simplicity', which
loosely expanded means that 'any Organism that becomes so complex as to be
a threat to its own survival will thereby undergo a Change-of-State, in
which it becomes the basic building block of a new organism, thus effecting
its own survival. This is evident to even the casual 'scientific
observer'---atoms become molecules; molecules become cells; our own
'internal organs' were once creepie-crawly critters living in the sea.

I am beginning the surmise that we are now reaching an 'evolutionary epoch'
where 'governance' has reached the proportions of 'a fully evolved
organism', albeit on the level of human culture. One of Teilhard's most oft
quoted lines is "THE AGE OF NATIONS IS PAST; WHAT MAN MUST DO NOW IF HE IS
NOT TO PERISH IS BUILD THE EARTH".

There has been 'dialogue' over past decades concerning the option of a
United Nations Assembly with a more than merely discursive mandates; it
would take Courage for world leaders to opt in on such a formula---but that
is what 'the world needs now'---Courage to (together) venture into 'unknown
territory'.

On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 9:50 AM John Eric Gomes  wrote:

> SOME THINGS ARE TERRIBLY WRONG!
> The Supreme Court has issued notice to the MP government asking why two
> job applicants were rejected on the grounds that their parents got them
> maried before marriagble age.of 21 years! Nobody denied Prime Minister a
> job for that reason? Doing away with "Lal Batti" on their vehicles has not
> stopped their VIP behavior and perks? On the contrary in many instances it
> has become worse! Stray cattle, dog and monkey menace are proliferating. It
> has got to a stage where in Agra it is reported that a monkey snatched a
> baby feeding from her mother's breast and killed the child! The same goes
> for elephant, wild boar, snakes  etc terrorizing human habitats! We are
> encroaching on their lands and sources of sustainance without thought. The
> very basics of democracy, electoral rolls are not meticulously maintained
> and monitored. An IIM Bangalore alumni software engineer team analyzing
> electoral rolls on Andhra Pradesh EC website found  that out of the 3.6
> crore elected voters, 15%  were either incorrect, illegal,duplicated or
> repeated! Such a huge margin of error is enough to swing the mandate in any
> election?The rule of law is being subverted for electoral gain, by mobs
> imposing their writ and governments whilst hypocritically condemning, are
> normalizing/ justifying criminal behavior due religious or sentiments being
> hurt. I hate to believe this, but are we contributing to becoming the
> Banana Republic of Hindusthan where police cannot act and religious
> majority mobs will control the courts? The prevention better than cure
> attitude is completely lacking!
>

Re: [Goanet] What is ORIGINAL SIN ?

[Dan Driscoll]

But, of course there is another way of looking at it. Students of the
Jesuit scientist/mystic Pierre Teilhard de Chardin would contend that
'Original Sin' is the 'biblical-literature archetype' for a basic principle
of growth in what we recognize now as 'an evolving cosmos'. The physics
principle of 'entropy' states that in every 'energy transaction' a portion
of energy is 'lost' in the form of escaping heat. The whole
onward-and-upward course of the evolving universe proceeds in the manner of
'two steps forward, and a step back'.

If this were not sufficient, even the 'law of gravity' is committed to a
'line of least resistance' (water flows downhill), and this is 'a natural
law', affecting the stream of culture also. This does not 'invalidate' what
we  learn from Genesis---it only states in contemporary scientific terms
what was indicated metaphorically by such an intuitive genius as Moses must
have been. In the concluding sentence of his *Phenomenon of Man* Pere
Teilhard stated: "In one manner or the other it still remains true that,
even in the view of the mere biologist, the human epic resembles nothing so
much as a way of the Cross".

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 1:28 AM Devak Argham  wrote:

> Original Sin for the Catholic Church is the lack of Grace with which
> we are born with. It is a result of our first parents, Adam and Eve.
> It is not a sin we ourselves commit. Grace is any gift from God.
> Original Sin is taken away by receiving the Sacrament of Baptism.
> Through Baptism, Jesus cleanses us of all sin. We are born as a child
> of God and become a member of the Church.
>

Re: [Goanet] Lancelot Ribeiro... the godfather of generations of artists using acrylics as an alternative to oils. (via Wikipedia)

[Dan Driscoll]

from Dan Driscoll, in Nova Scotia Canada: Have you heard of an Artist
domiciled in Kankavli (Sindudurgh) by name Naminand Modak? He did several
things for me when I was in Goa, and a large portrait of my wife Germana
still hangs in the Betim Flat now owned by my sis-in-law Sarita Diniz.

Modak is in my view 'extraordinarily talented', for b/w etching work and
canvas (Oil/Acrylic). He does fine portrait work from photo/snapshots. His
Art Studio is in the 'bazaar-peth, Kankavli. I had him do a large portrait
of 'Fr. Amalor' (D.S. Amalorpavadass) the founder 'Acharya-guru' of Anjali
Ashram in Mysore. Modak commutes in and out of Goa on pretty regular basis.

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 5:54 AM, Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या
* فريدريك نورونيا  wrote:

> Need your help to improve this page!
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancelot_Ribeiro
> --FN
>
> L a n c e l o t   R i b e i r o
>
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> Lancelot Ribeiro
> The artist, Lancelot Ribeiro, with his favourite painting 'The Warlord (oil
> and PVA on canvas), 1966.
> BornNovember 28, 1933
> Bombay (Mumbai)
> DiedDecember 25, 2010 (aged 77)
> London
> Alma materSt Martin's School of Art, London. St Mary's Senior Cambridge
> School, Mount Abu, Rajputana. St Sebastian's School and St Xavier's High
> School for Boys in Bombay.[1]
> StylePainting
> MovementModern art, Post War Indian expressionism[2]
> Websitelanceribeiro.co.uk
>
> Lancelot Ribeiro (born 1933, died 2010 London) was an Indian modern artist.
> According to the Independent, he is considered to have been at "the
> vanguard of the influx of Indian artists to Britain."[3]
>
> Early life[edit source]
>
> Lancelot Ribeiro was born in 1933 to in Bombay, India accountant Joao José
> Fernando Flores Ribeiro and his mother Lilia. He was the half-brother of
> artist F.N. Souza. Ribeiro moved to London in 1950, living with his brother
> and studying accountancy. He abandoned this career when attending life
> classes at St Martin's School of Art between 1951 and 1953. He served in
> the RAF in Scotland, then returned to Bombay. After working with Life
> Insurance Corporation, he began working professionally as a painter in
> 1958.[3]
>
> Career[edit source]
>
> Ribeiro's creative life spanned half a century, during which time he became
> known for a "huge body"[3] of figurative and abstract work. Among his
> artistic productions were portrait heads, still lifes, landscapes, and
> pigment experiments dating back to the early 1960s which "lead to works of
> peculiar brilliance and transparency."[3]
>
> Ribeiro died in 2010 in London.[3] In November 2016, as part of the 2017
> UK-India Year of Culture, the exhibition Ribeiro: A Celebration of Life,
> Love and Passion was held in association with the British Museum and other
> institutions.[4]
>
> Reception[edit source]
>
> The British mainstream media has said:
>
> "Lancelot Ribeiro was one of the most original Indian painters who settled
> in Britain after the Second World War. Although there has been a surge of
> dealer and collector interest in artists from the subcontinent, Ribeiro
> remains relatively unknown compared with contemporaries such as his
> half-brother FN Souza, Avinash Chandra, Balraj Khanna and Anish Kapoor." --
> The Independent (London)[3]
>
> Nicholas Treadwell remembers Ribeiro at The British Museum during 'Asian
> Art in London' week, November 2016
>
> Artistic landmarks[edit source]
>
> 1951-53: Joins art classes at Saint Martin's School of Art, London[2]
> 1958: Begins painting professionally[3]
> 1960: Organises his first solo exhibition, Bombay Art Society Salon.[2]
> Soon sold out. Five other exhibitions follow this in Bombay (Mumbai), New
> Delhi and Calcutta (Kolkata).[3]
> 1961: First solo art exhibition at the Bombay Artist Aid Centre. Included
> among the Ten Indian Painters exhibition. Extensive tour of India, Europe,
> US and Canada. Gets a commission for a 12-foot mural for the Tata Iron and
> Steel Company[3]
> 1962: Returns to London with wife. Gets grant from the Congress for
> Cultural Freedom in Paris. Mixed shows at Piccadilly, Rawinsky, John
> Whibley and Crane Kalman galleries in London and Galerie Lambert, Paris.
> All India Gold Medal nomination.[3]
> 1963: Co-founds the Indian Painters’ Collective.[2]
> 1960s and 1970s: Solos and group shows. Ribeiro lectures on Indian art,
> culture at Commonwealth Institute[3]
> 1986: Retrospective covering 1960s work, at Leicestershire Museum and Art
> Gallery[3]
> 1987: At Camden Arts Centre.[3]
> 1998: LTG Gallery, New Delhi[3]
> 2010: Displays one painting at 

Re: [Goanet] IFFI

[Dan Driscoll]

I think that Goa is where it should be; I have seen *Spotlight *the sad
story of youth sexual abuse in Boston---likely to get Oscars. I have a lot
of family relations there, and a niece of mine knew Cardinal Law very well,
personally.

No doubt the IFFI is a Central Gov't funding perk that a lot of States are
envious of.

As Churchill said, "A preposition is not a word to end a sentence with"!


On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 10:48 AM, anamaria desouzagoswami <
anamariagosw...@rediffmail.com> wrote:

> People have been criticizing IFFI. That it must go. I have attending as a
> delegate since 2004 and earlier in New Delhi in 1979 and 1981.
>
> This year the quality of films were excellant. There were no traffic jams
> at least during the day time till about 5.30pm. After that I am not aware
> of any traffic jams.
>
> This year there were much less delegates. about 4000 odd, tickets were
> easily available.
>
> Goa is now a permanent venue for IFFI.
>
> Ana Maria Goswami
>

Re: [Goanet] Fw: IFFI

[Dan Driscoll]

Yeah; as a journalist wag has defined *'The New Economic Order' --- "Poor
people from rich countries send money to rich people of poor countries, so
that they can better their condition".*

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Bernado Colaco  wrote:

>
>
>
> Alas the new colonizers  have made us paupers, now a 'perk' should sustain
> our lives!
> BC
>
>
>
>  Dan Driscoll 
>
> I think that Goa is where it should be; I have seen *Spotlight *the sad
> story of youth sexual abuse in Boston---likely to get Oscars. I have a lot
> of family relations there, and a niece of mine knew Cardinal Law very well,
> personally.
>
> No doubt the IFFI is a Central Gov't funding perk that a lot of States are
> envious of.
>
> As Churchill said, "A preposition is not a word to end a sentence with"!
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Goanet] driscoll....@gmail.com (Dan Driscoll) on Re: Break Your Silence: 101 Christian Intellectuals to the Church in India

[Dan Driscoll]

Many Thanks. As you may know Fr. Amalor's Cause' is now up for
Canonization. He quite often made the point that Ghandi made---no Memorial
except 'The Work'; but evidently a family relation who 'did well in USA'
greased the Vatican wheel, and it all landed on Fr. Louis's desk in Mysore.
I was asked to give a 'Witness Letter', which I did---Attachment.

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Venantius J Pinto  wrote:

> Dan—
> Brilliant.
> —vjp
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Goanet Reformat  >
> wrote:
>
> >  Yes, of course; but is the horse not already half out of the barn? In
> > mid-seventies I attended 'upadesa' sessions given in Mysore by 'Father
> > Amalor' (Amalorananda) --- Reverend D.S. Amalorpavadass, who championed
> > 'Inculturation' in the wake of earlier spiritual leaders who insisted
> that
> > the Vedanta & Christianity are joined in the natural evolution of
> East/West
> > human culture becoming 'planetized'. Later 'tributaries' such as Islam,
> in
> > due Evolutionary fashion join the mainstream---but everything takes Time!
> >
> > Amalor's detractors accused him of trying to 'Hinduise Christianity' and
> > went to the extent of making a legal issue of it (in Madras/Chennai)
> which
> > fortunately did not go very far.  These Issues are not 'solved' by the
> > stroke of some power-broker pen but by a collective effort involving
> > 'lifestyle adaptations'. Open Letter signed by Christian Intellectuals is
> > commendable, but there can be danger of 'activist-sounding brass &
> tinkling
> > cymbal'.
> >
>

Re: [Goanet] driscoll....@gmail.com (Dan Driscoll) on Re: Break Your Silence: 101 Christian Intellectuals to the Church in India

[Dan Driscoll]

Right on; thanks for Response. I think that the 'e-circle' letters protocol
is 'cutting edge' in  terms of dialogue in Religious Culture. A further
question arises concerning 'role of the artist'. Have you ever heard of a
man by name Namanand Modak of Sindudurgh (MA.). Several of his canvases are
at Anjali Ashram, put there by me. Some of the Artists should take careful
note of what is going down in 'digital animation'. My early work in Canada
was much involved with animation by Norman McLaren, whom I knew personally.
Now, one can practically 'create' the digital format to suit the subject
matter. A group here is looking at a good story which I think could best be
'illustrated' by a 'sand-painting' adaptation. Disney-works are much into
the kind of 'corn-doll' persona---which has worked well, but should be
thought of as 'only the beginning'.

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Venantius J Pinto <
venantius.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dan—
>
> Appreciate you letting us know. I did not know this.
> I will look into this. Perhaps paint a mural someday on them, including
> Joseph Vaz….
>
> Thank you,
> —Venantius J Pinto
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Dan Driscoll 
> wrote:
>
> > Many Thanks. As you may know Fr. Amalor's Cause' is now up for
> > Canonization. He quite often made the point that Ghandi made---no
> Memorial
> > except 'The Work'; but evidently a family relation who 'did well in USA'
> > greased the Vatican wheel, and it all landed on Fr. Louis's desk in
> Mysore.
> > I was asked to give a 'Witness Letter', which I did---Attachment.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Venantius J Pinto <
> > venantius.pi...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Dan—
> > > Brilliant.
> > > —vjp
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Goanet Reformat <
> > goanet.refor...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >  Yes, of course; but is the horse not already half out of the barn?
> In
> > > > mid-seventies I attended 'upadesa' sessions given in Mysore by
> 'Father
> > > > Amalor' (Amalorananda) --- Reverend D.S. Amalorpavadass, who
> championed
> > > > 'Inculturation' in the wake of earlier spiritual leaders who insisted
> > > that
> > > > the Vedanta & Christianity are joined in the natural evolution of
> > > East/West
> > > > human culture becoming 'planetized'. Later 'tributaries' such as
> Islam,
> > > in
> > > > due Evolutionary fashion join the mainstream---but everything takes
> > Time!
> > > >
> > > > Amalor's detractors accused him of trying to 'Hinduise Christianity'
> > and
> > > > went to the extent of making a legal issue of it (in Madras/Chennai)
> > > which
> > > > fortunately did not go very far.  These Issues are not 'solved' by
> the
> > > > stroke of some power-broker pen but by a collective effort involving
> > > > 'lifestyle adaptations'. Open Letter signed by Christian
> Intellectuals
> > is
> > > > commendable, but there can be danger of 'activist-sounding brass &
> > > tinkling
> > > > cymbal'.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [Goanet] driscoll....@gmail.com (Dan Driscoll) on Re: Break Your Silence: 101 Christian Intellectuals to the Church in India

[Dan Driscoll]

I see that you have 'big story too'. Were you born/raised in Goa? I married
a girl from one of those 'Old Goan Families), so lived on River Mandovi for
upwards of thirty years. One of my good friends there was Chirstovo Pinto
(in Betim, near Marine Workshop).

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Venantius J Pinto <
venantius.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dan—
>
> Wow, wow, and awesome. Appreciate you extrapolating and given me the segway
> to share.
>
> I have not heard of Namanand Modak, nor of Anjali Ashram, and appreciate
> you mentioned both.
>
> Years ago, I paid a visit to the National Film Board of Canada, and bough
> some VHS tapes.
> Although we were there for a short while, the impression on my sensibility
> was tremendous.
> It would be good if Goans had the chance to see Norman McLaren’s films,
> especially, Neighbors.
> I believe Ishu Patel is still at the NFBC!? Things changed drastically for
> me; but I cannot forget them.
> So many of them.
>
> I graduated from Pratt Institute, from the CG Dept. My short film, Shunyata
> was realized
> in mixed-media animation. But things worked differently, and just perhaps I
> may get back
> someday to animating. Sill, all experiences bolster us. Needless to say,
> but animation has
> come a long way and will keep going on. The first batch of CG animators in
> Canada and
> the US, all divorced! The work and exploits took their toll. Btw, remember
> the Benson & Hedges
> commercial, which was computed at the National Center for Supercomputing
> Applications!
>
> Canada has played a tremendous role in developing programs, having Sheridan
> and other schools,
> and by assiduously creating outlets for animators. The animators too, have
> played their cards and more.
>
> My base has always been traditional.
>
> My journey in painting murals is recent and began with the Mexicans, and is
> now six murals strong.
> Next month, I head to Candelaria, Misiones, Argentina to paint my first
> there, at the site of one of the
> Jesuit missions (reducciones). Paid for! Btw, there were thirty stretching
> from Paraguay. Bolivia, Brazil,
> and Argentina.
>
> Then, from Oct–mid Nov, will be painting six murals in Colombia. And then
> teach a course in Poinxedeje,
> Hidalgo, Mexico. I hope to sketch, and cook some, and get into the 2018
> exhausted and burnt out, or
> rejuvenated and raring to deal with fresher horrors, via generating new
> projects, including calligraphy
> and print making.
>
> My artistic labor is accessible online. I must also add that it does not
> follow a
> discernible trajectory. :) Search: Venantius Pinto; or Venantius J Pinto.
>
> As I say in my feeble Spanish: Vivivimos tantas vidas, y tantas vidas viven
> en nosotros.
> (We live many lives, and many lives live within us).
>
> More, some other time.
>
> Thank you,
>

Re: [Goanet] driscoll....@gmail.com (Dan Driscoll) on Re: Break Your Silence: 101 Christian Intellectuals to the Church in India

[Dan Driscoll]

Did I mention, for you, some reading of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin? In my
'overview' you are among those in 'vanguard' of emerging human
consciousness --- consequent upon what Teilhard describes as 'human family
now becoming planetized'.

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Venantius J Pinto <
venantius.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dan—
>
> Awesome, to know you’ve have had a glorious and long relationship with/in
> Goa.
> These things matter in the way ones being materializes into potentiality. I
> vaguely
> recollect the marine workshop. Perhaps my father would have known them. The
> property on both sides of the petrol pump where Nerul begins, is ours, and
> hopefully
> my brothers have some ideas about it. But I stay in my corner, although the
> eldest.
> They are both in India.
>
> I was born, and raised in Bombay; of Nerul, near Betim; and Batim (mother).
> The longest I lived in Goa was for three months. But my sensibility in
> things as also
> nature is very much Goan. But thats just be saying. It encompasses a lived
> aesthetic
> that has taken in/to a degree one will say, an amalgamation of the/from the
> Goan,
> the Indian (but distinct) with my American being, and study of Japanese art
> and
> calligraphy (7th Dan, and other ranks).
>
> Its a long story, of a simple person who has seen a few things and walked
> into
> some shadows! Pleased tp say that the path continues getting shaped.
>
> See:
> Levitating Enclosures, Procellous Washes and Shunted Wagons
> *Chintlelem ghodlelem zalear mellelim ghora ietelim aslim.*
> If our thoughts were to be realized the dead would return home. *—*Konkani
> proverb
> http://venantiusjpinto.blogspot.com/2009/12/levitating-enclosures-
> procellous-washes.html
>
> Todo es gracia :: All is grace
> http://venantiusjpinto.blogspot.com/2016/12/todo-es-
> gracia-all-is-grace.html
>
> Good things still happen. I get to do some good work, and stay in the
> running slowly forging.
> I know where I stand in the art firmament that is Indian or for that matter
> any other place.
>
> Right now, working on my fourth project for the Kyoto Journal. Small
> mercies.
>
> Thank you.
>
> —Venantius
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Dan Driscoll 
> wrote:
>
> > I see that you have 'big story too'. Were you born/raised in Goa? I
> married
> > a girl from one of those 'Old Goan Families), so lived on River Mandovi
> for
> > upwards of thirty years. One of my good friends there was Chirstovo Pinto
> > (in Betim, near Marine Workshop).
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Venantius J Pinto <
> > venantius.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Dan—
> > >
> > > Wow, wow, and awesome. Appreciate you extrapolating and given me the
> > segway
> > > to share.
> > >
> > > I have not heard of Namanand Modak, nor of Anjali Ashram, and
> appreciate
> > > you mentioned both.
> > >
> > > Years ago, I paid a visit to the National Film Board of Canada, and
> bough
> > > some VHS tapes.
> > > Although we were there for a short while, the impression on my
> > sensibility
> > > was tremendous.
> > > It would be good if Goans had the chance to see Norman McLaren’s films,
> > > especially, Neighbors.
> > > I believe Ishu Patel is still at the NFBC!? Things changed drastically
> > for
> > > me; but I cannot forget them.
> > > So many of them.
> > >
> > > I graduated from Pratt Institute, from the CG Dept. My short film,
> > Shunyata
> > > was realized
> > > in mixed-media animation. But things worked differently, and just
> > perhaps I
> > > may get back
> > > someday to animating. Sill, all experiences bolster us. Needless to
> say,
> > > but animation has
> > > come a long way and will keep going on. The first batch of CG animators
> > in
> > > Canada and
> > > the US, all divorced! The work and exploits took their toll. Btw,
> > remember
> > > the Benson & Hedges
> > > commercial, which was computed at the National Center for
> Supercomputing
> > > Applications!
> > >
> > > Canada has played a tremendous role in developing programs, having
> > Sheridan
> > > and other schools,
> > > and by assiduously creating outlets for animators. The animators too,
> > have
> > > played their cards and more.
> > >
> > > My base has always been traditional.
> > >
> > > My journey in painting murals is recent and

Re: [Goanet] Radio Broadcasting in Portuguese Goa

[Dan Driscoll]

And you may know that at least one of the persons who did that is still
happily living in 'Pius Xth Bldg' on Church Square in Panaji. Libya Lobo
Sardessai & late Spouse 'Vaman' were the ones who got it going, if my
information is correct. I had the good fortune to have known both of them,
personally.

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Naguesh Bhatcar 
wrote:

>  >During the year 1961 a 50 kW. shortwave transmitter was installed, and
> this
> >unit made test broadcasts on three different channels, beamed towards
> >Africa, the Persian Gulf, and the Far East.
>
> >With the changing winds of fortune, Emissora de Goa finally left the air
> >and closed down forever at 8:00 am on December 18, 1961.  Less than two
> >months later, All India Radio came on the air from the same studios,
> though
> >with only one transmitter, the 5 kw. mediumwave unit on 880 kHz.
>
>
> It was believed that the more powerful transmitter from the Portuguese
> Emissora de Goa was dismantled and carted away to Delhi, shortly after
> Liberation of Goa.
>
> Naguesh Bhatcar
> 
> From: Goanet  on behalf of Frederick
> Noronha 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:06 PM
> To: goamusic...@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Goanet] Radio Broadcasting in Portuguese Goa
>
> *http://www.ontheshortwaves.com/Wavescan/wavescan301.html
> *
>
>
>
>

Re: [Goanet] End of the world

[Dan Driscoll]

Yes, of course; the ultimate destruction of planet earth is scientific
fact, but I repeat that the most salient contemporary thinker in this
context is the French Jesuit scientist/seer Pierre Teilhard de Chardin,
whose final Chapter in his major work The Phenomenon of Man (published
1959) has a section entitled 'The End of the World'; this of course does
not mean the End of Life; only that the Life principle will have 'migrated'
to another region of the Cosmos, outside the 'Dimension of Space and Time'.
The Indian counterpart of Pere Teilhard is Sri Aurobindo Goshe; an
important book with penetrating analysis of both Aurobindo & Teilhard's
'vision' is that of Dr. K.D. Sethna, the Parsi disciple of Aurobindo who
was Editor of the journal Mother India. His position is that with subtle
differences in expression the basic hypothesis of both is essentially the
same.

Teilhard, while a Scientist in the true sense (Head of Paleontology @
University of Paris) was also a 'true believer' of the essential Christian
ideology---"In Death, life is not taken away". Jesuit 'Provincial
Authority' and Rome's 'Holy Office' forbade him to publish during his
lifetime, but almost immediately after his demise in 1955 his works were
published and for a time very widely read. The Vatican issued a Warning
against his work in 1962, which strangely has never been repealed even
though Pope Benedict was in the beginning one of his strongest supporters.
Pope Francis would do us all a favor by pressing the Delete key for that
1962 'Monitum'.

On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Nelson Lopes  wrote:

> end of the world
> Christ has spoken of the second coming, Science tells us the life of the
> sun has reached half its life, but the other half is 5000 billion years a,
> long time indeed. Any stray asteroid is most likely to impact the earth as
> in the past and will stuff out life on earth. The extent of damage as in
> the past will depend on the size of the asteroid
> Man made atomic weapons can also annihilate the earth several times over
> This threat is looming high, specially with weapons of mas destruction's
> falling into wrong hands
> As the sun burns out in time it will enlarge so much that earth will simply
> melt like butter. The moon is also slowly moving away from the earth and
> may be lost in due time
> When the sun enlarges no trace of earth will be left as a reference
> Everything on it will simply evaporate men ,animals trees and all the
> wealth and development created over generation of civilization. As we know
> to day, life as it exists in all its varied forms is confined to this only
> wonder planet , Will be migrate and colonies some other planet during the
> course of history. Attempts are backed by scientific discoveries to move
> away in times so that sign of life that existed on this earth will take
> shape else where in the solar system possibly mass Human race, indirectly
> wants to preserve for posterity its unique identity in the solar system, we
> know
> It is food for thought the wars of superiority of race, the might of power.
> the advance of science and technology will not prevent the total
> annihilation of the earth as the sun burns out It is not wishful thinking ,
> but scientific reality We by our misadventure hasten the process of
> destruction of life on this beautiful planet, when we are all seriously
> looking for life else where in the universe Are we serious in our search
> for better relations or are we afraid, threatened of by another advance
> civilization that can imagine doom for own existence, It looks too distant
> that. we are all alone in this vast universe, super civilization created or
> evolved by design
> if we ponder over this scenario seriously the wars that we are fighting for
> to establish our superiority of race become redundant The only difference
> being that the half the life of the sun is too far in distance in terms of
> human span of life and which perhaps makes us blind to the absolute reality
> waiting in future
> Let us preserve this wonderful, beautiful earth with all its flora and
> fauna, natural landscape pollution free of land water and air The natural
> disasters like earthquakes, storms, volcanic eruptions ,tsunamis are
> indications of signs of the fragility of stability of earth itself
> Nelson Lopes Chinchinim
>
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[Goanet] From Dan Driscoll, in Nova Scotia Canada.

[Dan Driscoll]

I keep in touch with Goa through this fine IT work, but only try for a
'Post' when I feel that it might 'make a difference'. Here I belong to a
weekly discussion group led by 'Reverend Blake', a United Church Pastor.
The opening line is 'jocose', since he cancelled our meeting for Halloween
Night; we get on very well, albeit with some good natured teasing.

As those who know me will know, I've been lifelong student of the Jesuit
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin; so our study group has by now heard a lot about
him. When first came to live in Goa there were acrid criticisms of
Teilhard, with the plaudits going to J. Krishnamurthi, even from some of my
Catholic comperes.

Hereunder is what I should hope might be a 'shortcut' to comprehension of
'Teilhardian thinking'.


Got the message re Halloween; spoil sport/party-pooper & killjoy---no
Tuesday Group Trick & Treat!

I once arrived by Via Rail train from Vancouver @ Union Station Toronto on
Halloween evening just after sundown, having been non-res (in India) for
several years. The chaps who rolled the luggage handcart from baggage car
into the station were dressed in short black skirts and net
stockings---first buzz of Culture Shock!

Might I roll back a week, to the topic of Eden Garden, with the 'guilty
pair' covering themselves with fig leaves. Our genial Black Brother George
piped up, "Yeah; but wasn't there a SNAKE in there somewhere?"

Thought I: "Leave it to the Baptist, to zero in on the Snake". But 'point
well taken'---what gives about the snake? I’ll attempt a 'Teilhardian spin'
on it, having in mind the indomitable Luther insisting that we can (and
should) be 'Interpreters of our own Scripture'.

The Teilhardian 'Principle' is that human culture is evolving like
everything else, and that each emerging 'epoch' draws content from the one
preceding; then there is added-in the one 'NEW THING NECESSARY FOR
CONTINUED SURVIVAL' for an organism dying of its own ‘complexity’---this in
a never-ending stratagem whereby Nature ‘perpetuates itself’ through a
process of ‘self-arrangement’ (‘groping’/finding solution/adaptation).

My conjecture/hypothesis: "I WILL PUT ENMITIES BETWEEN THEE AND THE WOMAN;
BETWEEN THY SEED AND HER SEED; SHE WILL CRUSH THY HEAD AND THOU WILL LIE IN
WAIT FOR HEEL" is a literary/metaphorical allusion that Canadian
bible-as-literature scholar Northrup Frye might have come up with.

Going back far enough, even in our own ‘logical imagination’ we can
encounter a species of 'hominid' preceding *Homo sapiens*, that was not
capable of 'reflective thinking'; it might most logically be at the *Homo
erectus* stage. But I would contend that while not capable of reflective
thinking they were capable of REFLEXIVE RESPONSE, particularly when
threatened with mortal injury. Such could be the instinctive response of a
pre homo-sapiens mother with babe-in-arms, at the least inkling of ‘a snake
in the grass'; her frenzied response would be not for her own survival, but
for that of the child. And ‘WOMAN’ it would be; not the male of the
species, who at that evolutionary stage might never hold a child-in-arms.

In India I was rather negatively impressed by worship of the Hindu Goddess
Kali, who is depicted wearing a 'necklace of axes'---until my Guru
Amalorananda explained that Kali metaphorically represents *'THE MOTHER, IN
FIERCE DEFENSE OF HER CHILDREN*'.

The Queen of Heaven/Immaculate Conception image (Murillo—galleried in El
Prado, Madrid) depicted ‘the woman’ with crown and halo of twelve stars';
holding an infant-in-arms, and trampling a snake--- poised upon the
curvature of planet earth. I wore 'the miraculous medal' with that image,
as child, plus a 'St. Joseph's Cord'---to safeguard purity of my
child-loins. You, poor Protestant buddy, did not get those little
perks---but managed to survive anyway; so you must have been doing
something right!
DAN DRISCOLL: Dartmouth, nova scotia-Canada; October 2017.

Re: [Goanet] This is my Island in the Sun (Mint Lounge, 10/11/2017)

[Dan Driscoll]

Greeting, 'after long time'; my dear Germana sat at your Grandfather
Armando's table. Your 'geographic focus' brings to mind my favorite
writer/guru, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (d. 1955). Dr. Edelweiss De Sa's
father had his vision well in focus; if you see Dr. Edelweiss you might
make mention of this; she may have one of those beautifully hand-crafted
volumes on her shelf still.

Very interested to read of your grown sons progress; I recall seeing them
as toddlers, from vantage point of sitting on that exquisitely designed
reclining chair.

Of course I am 'an Islander' as well---little Prince Edward Island (Canada)
'home' of Anne of Green Gables.

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 2:07 PM, V M  wrote:

> My desire was not to pass any island without taking possession, so
> that, one having been taken, the same may be said of all.
>
> —Christopher Columbus
>
> Before anything else, my family is defined by islands. As far back
> through the many centuries that we know our roots, they have been sunk
> deep in the blessed soil of Divar island, once known as “Kashi of the
> Konkan”, which undulates verdant in the Mandovi river next to Old Goa.
> Endless generations were born to flourish there, until my grandfather,
> the late poet, translator and academic Armando Menezes, uprooted to
> study and teach in Bombay (which was itself founded on seven islands).
> I was born in view of the Arabian Sea at Malabar Hill, but my two
> elder sons emerged into the world in Manhattan. In 2007, bringing it
> all back home, their younger brother was born in Panaji, on the
> ancient island of Tiswadi, very close to where our story originally
> began.
>
> Napoleon famously said, “Geography is destiny.” He was referring to
> geopolitical strategy, but the maxim holds just as much for identity
> and belonging. In a snippet of autobiography that is included in The
> Cradle Of My Dreams: Selected Writings Of Armando Menezes, 1902-1983,
> my grandfather wrote about the riparian landscape of India’s smallest
> state being “a law of life for the Goan”, then elaborated: “To have
> been born on an island is an ambivalent fate: the river that confines
> you also makes you dream beyond itself, draws you gently outward,
> towards some far incalculable sea. Every ferry is a challenge; every
> bend of the river an invitation…. These things are, often, not
> consciously held; they are in our blood, in our very chromosomes. The
> umbilical cord is never quite cut; the kite in the air is still held
> by the string below.”
>
> For my own life, those words have been imbued with prophetic
> inevitability as the allure of islands has persisted, immensely
> powerful. I am drawn to them irresistibly. While decades of incessant
> to-ing and fro-ing have otherwise rather comprehensively squashed the
> travel bug in me, an exception is always made for atolls, cays,
> archipelagos. I find immense comfort in crossing the water to leave
> the rest of the world behind. There’s really nothing quite like
> disembarking on a self-contained shore, and pulling up the
> metaphorical ladder. No man is an island, according to John Donne, so
> there is considerable irony in the fact that we seek out islands
> precisely to feel like original Man, at least symbolically marooned
> and left with limited options.
>
> So many crucial moments in my life have occurred within the ambit of
> islands. A year after we met, the most serious girlfriend I ever had
> spent a month with me in a little apartment in sight of the shimmering
> translucent sea in Tobago. We spent liquid days cosying up in the
> Caribbean sun. She learnt to snorkel by my side, and I began to cook
> proper meals for the first time under her guidance.
>
> Together, slowly, thousands of miles away from family and friends, we
> shed our masks and inhibitions, and all kinds of emotional baggage,
> and then began to communicate directly with each other. That is when
> we learnt who we could allow ourselves to be in each other’s company,
> and the architecture of a potential joint future began to take shape.
>
> Twenty-five years later, the story of our partnership still bristles
> with talismanic island journeys, even as our travelling party has
> expanded to embrace three sons. When the oldest was tiny, we took a
> long trip to Caye Caulker off the coast of Belize, very close to the
> world’s second-longest barrier reef. Instead of booking a hotel, we
> settled into a tiny fisherman’s house, bright pink like the interior
> of a conch shell, and cocooned tropical style. We ate mangoes plucked
> over the garden fence, along with incredibly fresh fish we caught
> ourselves on hand lines. Every day, I rode a bicycle down sandy roads,
> luxuriating amidst bougainvillea, under a canopy of soaring palms.
> With days stripped bare of extraneous frippery, and our minds focused
> serenely without meaningless distractions, there came a life-changing
> bolt of island logic. Why are we doing this here in Central America,
> at great e

Re: [Goanet] Proof There Is a God

[Dan Driscoll]

Yes; very well thought out  & composed. May I add in a couple of Author
Names which I feel can move the thinking a notch forward: Pierre Teilhard
de Chardin, whose major scientific work is entitled THE PHENOMENON OF MAN,
and Julian Jaynes, THE ORIGIN OF CONSCIOUSNESS IN THE BREAKDOWN OF THE
BICAMERAL MIND.

On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Fidibus  wrote:

> *Proof There Is a God
> *
>
> (to me this is proof by some wishful thinking pretenders. why we just
> acknowledge that we
>
> do not know!?**fidibus*
> *
>
> **
>
> *Can we logically prove the existence of God *
> *without going to the Bible? *
>
> By considering certain aspects of the natural world around us, we can
> arrive at the commonsense conclusion that there is a powerful, all-wise
> Creator who made it all.
>
> Let’s explore five key proofs of God’s existence with clear illustrations
> to back them up. To make it easier to remember, we’ll use the acronym GODLY.
>
> *G for Genetics*
> The molecular information of genes instructs cells in how to function and
> reproduce. The study of genetics has revolutionized our understanding of
> living things and how they operate.
>
> Key illustration: DNA. Containing the 3-billion-letter code inside our
> cells (of four recurring letters, or chemicals actually, the names of which
> start with these letters), it’s a virtual library of instruction manuals
> for assembling and operating all the cells of the body.
>
> A few years ago, one of the world’s most famous atheists, Professor
> Anthony Flew, came to the conclusion that God exists based on DNA evidence.
>
> “What I think the DNA material has done,” he wrote, “is that it has shown,
> by the almost unbelievable complexity of the arrangements which are needed
> to produce [life], that intelligence must have been involved in getting
> these extraordinarily diverse elements to work together.
>
> “It’s the enormous complexity of the number of elements and the enormous
> subtlety of the ways they work together. The meeting of these two parts at
> the right time by chance is simply minute. It is all a matter of the
> enormous complexity by which the results were achieved, which looked to me
> like the work of intelligence” ( There Is a God , 2007, p. 75).
>
> In his book The Case for a Creator , former atheist Lee Strobel writes:
> “The six-feet of DNA coiled inside every one of our body’s one-hundred
> trillion cells contains a four-letter chemical alphabet that spells out
> precise assembly instructions for all the proteins from which our bodies
> are made. Cambridge-educated Stephen Meyer demonstrated that no hypothesis
> has come close to explaining how information got into biological matter by
> naturalistic means” (2004, p. 282).
>
> So there is no logical explanation as to how this incredibly extensive,
> exquisite code inside the cell could exist without a supremely intelligent
> Being having designed it. Microsoft founder Bill Gates noted, “DNA is like
> a software program, only much more complex than anything we’ve ever
> devised” ( The Road Ahead , 1996, p. 228).
>
> It is absurd to think that nobody designed such a complex code—that it is
> simply a result of time, chance and mutation.
>
> *O for Origin*
> If things have an origin, they first needed an originator . The greatest
> question in philosophy is: Why does something exist instead of nothing ?
> Philosophers don’t really have an adequate answer. But there is a principle
> in nature that points to the answer—everything with a beginning has a cause
> , and there are no known exceptions to this rule.
>
> Key illustration: the universe. Physics and astronomy have established
> that it had a beginning. For instance, it can be shown that the universe is
> presently expanding outward from an initial point. So if everything with a
> beginning has a cause, and if the universe has a beginning, then it must
> also have a cause that created it—the First Cause.
>
> Moreover, everything that is caused to exist is brought about by something
> superior to itself. Therefore, something greater than the universe must
> have brought it into existence. This is a strong proof that a Creator
> exists.
>
> *D for Design*
> Everything that has a specific and complex design has a designer . For
> instance, a building is designed by an architect. No amount of time, chance
> and unthinking natural processes can produce a building. In a similar way,
> we see the exquisite designs of things around us.
>
> On Mt. Rushmore in the Black Hills of South Dakota, we see the complex and
> specific design of the faces of four American presidents carved into the
> rock. Wind and erosion can produce predictable designs on some mountains,
> but not obvious, well-known human faces.
>
> History tells us that Gutzon Borglum carved the faces on Mt. Rushmore, but
> even if there were no record of these being sculpted, we would still know
> that someone designed them and made them. Likewise, the natural realm
> itself shows evidence of d

Re: [Goanet] Proof There Is a God

[Dan Driscoll]

was also envisioned by the Indian savants Tagore,
Aurobindo Gosh & Swami Vivekananda. But Nietzsche was ‘sidetracked’ by the
ideologues surrounding Adolph Hitler into believing that the Ubermench was
to be a *Race,* rather than a ‘new state of mind’ eventually to grace every
individual living soul. What Jesus Christ’s life achievement represents was
that he faced certain death by introducing as the ‘growing shoot of
cultural evolution’ the concept of ‘forgiveness of one’s enemies’, a notion
that spread like wildfire, and has by now reached ‘planetary dimension’.

Dawkins & Dennett may not be far off in lamenting the sad history of
‘religion’ --- reference the Assyrian Invasions, the Crusades, the
‘genocide’ to rid Europe of the Albigenses---and the ‘beat goes on’; but
there is no ‘moral higher ground’; the rain falls equally on the just and
on the unjust---but as Teilhard put it at the end of his THE PHENOMENON OF
MAN:

“In one manner or the other it still remains true, even in the view of the
mere biologist, the human epic resembles nothing so much as a way of the
Cross”.

oooOooo

December 2017



On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Dan Driscoll 
wrote:

> Yes; very well thought out  & composed. May I add in a couple of Author
> Names which I feel can move the thinking a notch forward: Pierre Teilhard
> de Chardin, whose major scientific work is entitled THE PHENOMENON OF MAN,
> and Julian Jaynes, THE ORIGIN OF CONSCIOUSNESS IN THE BREAKDOWN OF THE
> BICAMERAL MIND.
>
> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Fidibus  wrote:
>
>> *Proof There Is a God
>> *
>>
>> (to me this is proof by some wishful thinking pretenders. why we just
>> acknowledge that we
>>
>> do not know!?**fidibus*
>> *
>>
>> **
>>
>> *Can we logically prove the existence of God *
>> *without going to the Bible? *
>>
>> By considering certain aspects of the natural world around us, we can
>> arrive at the commonsense conclusion that there is a powerful, all-wise
>> Creator who made it all.
>>
>> Let’s explore five key proofs of God’s existence with clear illustrations
>> to back them up. To make it easier to remember, we’ll use the acronym GODLY.
>>
>> *G for Genetics*
>> The molecular information of genes instructs cells in how to function and
>> reproduce. The study of genetics has revolutionized our understanding of
>> living things and how they operate.
>>
>> Key illustration: DNA. Containing the 3-billion-letter code inside our
>> cells (of four recurring letters, or chemicals actually, the names of which
>> start with these letters), it’s a virtual library of instruction manuals
>> for assembling and operating all the cells of the body.
>>
>> A few years ago, one of the world’s most famous atheists, Professor
>> Anthony Flew, came to the conclusion that God exists based on DNA evidence.
>>
>> “What I think the DNA material has done,” he wrote, “is that it has
>> shown, by the almost unbelievable complexity of the arrangements which are
>> needed to produce [life], that intelligence must have been involved in
>> getting these extraordinarily diverse elements to work together.
>>
>> “It’s the enormous complexity of the number of elements and the enormous
>> subtlety of the ways they work together. The meeting of these two parts at
>> the right time by chance is simply minute. It is all a matter of the
>> enormous complexity by which the results were achieved, which looked to me
>> like the work of intelligence” ( There Is a God , 2007, p. 75).
>>
>> In his book The Case for a Creator , former atheist Lee Strobel writes:
>> “The six-feet of DNA coiled inside every one of our body’s one-hundred
>> trillion cells contains a four-letter chemical alphabet that spells out
>> precise assembly instructions for all the proteins from which our bodies
>> are made. Cambridge-educated Stephen Meyer demonstrated that no hypothesis
>> has come close to explaining how information got into biological matter by
>> naturalistic means” (2004, p. 282).
>>
>> So there is no logical explanation as to how this incredibly extensive,
>> exquisite code inside the cell could exist without a supremely intelligent
>> Being having designed it. Microsoft founder Bill Gates noted, “DNA is like
>> a software program, only much more complex than anything we’ve ever
>> devised” ( The Road Ahead , 1996, p. 228).
>>
>> It is absurd to think that nobody designed such a complex code—that it is
>> simply a result of time, chance and mutation.
>>
>> *O for Origin*
>> If things have an origin, they first needed an originator . The greatest
>> question in philosophy is: W

Re: [Goanet] Dr. JACK DE SEQUEIRA STATUE AT THE ASSEMBLY COMPLEX

[Dan Driscoll]

Right on! I'm a Canadian, but I resided in Goa for about thirty years (1984
- 2012) having married a Goan National of 'old family' (in Canada) in 1970.
I spent many pleasant hours in a hospitality facility managed by Jack
Sequeira family members, not recalling exact name, but at end of Ourem
Creek Road, Panaji, near the beautiful art galleries. I think the Statue
could go there, if Porvorim doesn't get it. It could even go next to Faria
in Panjim itself.

I'm a great admirer of works by Aurobindo; and I'm aware that Sri
Vivekananda actually came to Goa, for consultation with spiritual leaders
there.

Goa, in my opinion, is greatly deserving of 'SPECIAL STATUS' in the Indian
Republic---somewhat resembling what has been done for Quebec Province in
the Canadian Federation of Provinces. I even went to the point of sending
to my friend Professor Antonio da Costa (in Miramar) a DVD of Canadian Film
documenting Pierre Elliott Trudeau's leadership in resisting 'Independence'
but pointing to 'Special Status'. *BUT*, not just 'commercial zone stuff;
that was there already, during the Opium Wars. What Goa needs is 'open
sesame to Global, particularly for 'Intellectual Properties' & Music.

I think it may be time to make some definitive moves on the National
Political Chessboard.

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Stephen Dias 
wrote:

> Dr. Jack de Sequeira:
>
> Deemed Father of Opinion Poll
>
>
> STEPHEN DIAS
> DONA PAULA
>
> Dear Raj Narain
> Editor
> Goan Observer
>
> Request to publish.
> Best regards
>
> Stephen
> 6.2.2018
>
>
>
> The raging debate surrounding the installation of the statue of Dr. Jack de
> Sequeira at the Assembly Complex at Porvorim, has taken an ugly turn with
> even leaders like Uday Bhembre stating that there were many groups that
> fought the Opinion Poll. Is it not a fact that Dr. Jack de Sequeira was the
> Leader of the Opposition and that Dayanand Bandodkar who was the Chief
> Minister then had wanted the matter about the merger to be voted in the
> Assembly where the MGP had a comfortable majority? What would have happened
> if the voting in the Assembly had then taken place and merger with
> Maharashtra would have happened? Would the 40 MLAs including the CM,
> Ministers and MLAs would have been representing Goa Assembly? Why is that
> the MLAs are not unanimous in getting the statue of Dr. Jack de Sequeira
> installed in the Assembly Complex as the Father of the Opinion Poll? For
> the sake history it may be emphasized that many leaders in India were
> involved in the Freedom movement in India, including amongst many other
> Jawaharlal Nehru, Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose, Sorojini Naidu, Dadabhai
> Naoroji, Gopal Krishna Gokhale, Bhagat Singa, Sri Aurobindo, Lokmanya Tilak
> and many, many others. Still all of them did not oppose when Mahatma Gandhi
> was selected as the Father of the Nation and so today Mahatma Gandhi is the
> Father of the Nation. Why do our 40 MLAs now do not realize that Dr. Jack
> de Sequeira should be given that honour for having contributed greatly to
> the Opinion Poll. The 40 MLAs should bow down their heads in gratitude to
> Dr. Jack de Sequeira for his yeoman contribution towards the Opinion Poll
> which was the cornerstone in Goa today having become a state in the Indian
> union.
> END
>
> Sent from my Samsung device
>

Re: [Goanet] Why You Should Post To Goanet

[Dan Driscoll]

May I be an enthusiastic 'seconder to this motion', and I would add that
the 'reply/comment' protocol for those e-letter postings may well represent
the peduncle of a new branch on the literary consciousness. It was
Aurobindo who wrote of 'the overmind'---a higher level of human
consciousness achieved through intensive yogic meditation. In the West the
same phenomenon is addressed by the French Jesuit Pierre Teilhard de
Chardin, with his 'ultra-humain'.

The Bombay Parsi Dr. K.D. Sethna (of Aurobindo Ashram) wrote a definitive
book (THE FUTURE OF SPIRITUALITY) comparing/contrasting the two
'super-minds', and if my reading of him is right the main difference is
that Teilhard put more emphasis on the 'planetary aspect'---whereby much of
the 'ascent of man' will depend on 'collaborative reasoning'.

Further to that, Goa itself may be the strategic 'uploading zone' for a
21st Century 'planetary consciousness'---uniting the cultural & philosophic
legacies of a huge cultural web of evolving Life,  in what we have come to
know as 'the space/time continuum'.

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Roland Francis 
wrote:

> Far too many members of the Goanet List hesitate to post their thoughts,
> opinions and replies.
>
> Perhaps they think they are not up to the mark, meaning they can’t
> formulate their thoughts or put them in words. Perhaps they think they
> would be silently ridiculed and what they have to say isn’t important
> enough for others to read.
>
> Nothing could be further from the truth. It’s not that we begin to write
> and suddenly become wordsmiths or purveyors of fine thoughts. Like anything
> else, posting and writing takes sustained practice to get better.
>
> Putting thoughts on paper (a phrase that includes on computer) has many
> benefits. You increase your vocabulary, you get the chance to put your
> requests, ideas and thoughts in a more orderly way than merely spouting
> words. It gives a chance to the reader on the other end to weigh what you
> are expressing more seriously. It takes us out of “he or she can be written
> off” territory to “lets hear what he has to say, it makes sense, importance
> and perhaps pleasure for me to listen”.
>
> Most of us Goans have English almost as a first language and are proud to
> say it and equally disgusted when somebody is surprised when they discover
> we know it. But the truth is we as a community rank pretty low on usage
> when compared to a true English speaker. That is not due to lack of skill,
> it is merely due to lack of proper practice. We have sufficient vocabulary
> but rarely use most of it.
>
> To ourselves, we lead ordinary lives, but in truth most of us have
> remarkable stories of lives lived, experiences encountered and lessons
> learned. I discovered this when some time ago I started a series on Goanet
> called Persona Grata. The people I talked to told of their lives and
> achievements matter-of-factly. To me and most people however, those would
> be eye-popping narrations.
>
> I am not asking you to write specifically about yourselves, but I am
> encouraging you to start creating posts on anything you want to write on or
> remark. If it’s related in some way to Goa or your being a Goan, so much
> the better.
>
> Viva to your writing.
>
> Roland Francis
> Toronto.
>
>

Re: [Goanet] Why You Should Post To Goanet

[Dan Driscoll]

Nice to be in touch again. I think that it is simply historical fact that
Goa is 'a cultural bridge' between East & West. My suggestion, to
politically interested younger people in Goa, is that there should be
Special Status that covers artistic and literary endeavor rather than
simply a caju nut & feni  'Economic Free Zone'. In Canada Quebec Province
has 'special status'.

There is so much great Art & Literature coming out of India, most of it
totally unknown in 'the West'. Goa would be the 'staging area' & 'upload
zone' for work by such as Amitav Ghosh and my brother-in-law
Poet/Translator/fine art Painter Gieve Patel---and of course 'the future
generation of Indian cultural innovators. People here think that they are
benefiting a lot by 'doing yoga'---nothing much more than very simple
'hatha'; they know nothing of Jnana/Raja/Kundalini or the thinking of
Aurobindo and Vivekananda.

The old 'free trade' thing (The Opium Wars; Waters of River Mandovi running
with blood) can never be 'avenged'---but as an old saying goes, "The Mills
of God grind slowly, and they grind exceeding fine.

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:23 PM, Venantius J Pinto <
venantius.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Dan, et al,
>
> The part about “strategic ‘uploading zone’” is quite apparent, and
> thrilling to see, despite the vicissitudes practically all Goans contend
> with. I believe you are definitely on to something significant. I cannot
> put a finger on it, but sense it in my being, and tap into it in my
> artistic labor. But then artists rarely know what they are doing. This is
> true. There is wide gamut of intellectual “brewing” in Goa, among Goans,
> and the myriad interactions Goans, and those living in Goan affinity, have
> with others.
>
> I wrote the following as a conclusion in an essay written after a
> presentation at the Goa Convention, in Lisbon.
>
> “It is one fact to be born—we do not choose our parents; but I hold to the
> belief that to be born Goan is a birth that affords possibility in simply
> being. Whatever the nature of the being--it is Goan in breadth, and cannot
> be duplicated nor erased however subtle the influence. Towards that
> consideration, one may reiterate that we do not come by our thoughts; they
> come to us. This to me is Goaness—a Mobius strip of devotions,
> sensibilities, colour, proverbs, sexuality and other flagrant exuberances
> projected into the third dimension. This dimension where we encounter
> ourselves and others is where I am at my best and worst as a visual
> thinker. My concerns have been about promulgating a Catholicity of being
> and openness by suggesting nuance and detail in otherwise opaque subjects.
> This includes my interest in working visually with religious thoughts and
> ideas. A collective of feelings and objects collude to create emotional
> spaces—mind spaces. I enter spaces through my artistic labour and in so
> doing bring about a nature I otherwise would not be privy to. Spaces to me,
> much like cultures, hold in their geometries, mindsets which find their way
> into shape, and form artistic metaphors.”
>
> The entire essay may be read at the link below:
> Levitating Enclosures, Procellous Washes and Shunted Wagons
> <http://venantiusjpinto.blogspot.com/2009/12/levitating-enclosures-
> procellous-washes.html>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> —Venantius J Pinto
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Dan Driscoll 
> wrote:
> >
> > May I be an enthusiastic 'seconder to this motion', and I would add that
> > the 'reply/comment' protocol for those e-letter postings may well
> represent
> > the peduncle of a new branch on the literary consciousness. It was
> > Aurobindo who wrote of 'the overmind'---a higher level of human
> > consciousness achieved through intensive yogic meditation. In the West
> the
> > same phenomenon is addressed by the French Jesuit Pierre Teilhard de
> > Chardin, with his 'ultra-humain'.
> >
> > The Bombay Parsi Dr. K.D. Sethna (of Aurobindo Ashram) wrote a definitive
> > book (THE FUTURE OF SPIRITUALITY) comparing/contrasting the two
> > 'super-minds', and if my reading of him is right the main difference is
> > that Teilhard put more emphasis on the 'planetary aspect'---whereby much
> of
> > the 'ascent of man' will depend on 'collaborative reasoning'.
> >
> > Further to that, Goa itself may be the strategic 'uploading zone' for a
> > 21st Century 'planetary consciousness'---uniting the cultural &
> philosophic
> > legacies of a huge cultural web of evolving Life,  

Re: [Goanet] Oh gawd, look what your Prime Minister is doing in India...

[Dan Driscoll]

What I do not like about it is 'the way THEY'VE  dressed him up; the silk
pyjamas and the capes, etc. he would not PERSONALLY have selected this;
it's being done by others, and I'd say that one of young Trudeau's little
weaknesses is being too polite to say 'No'.

Inappropriate Invites are the fallout from 'incompetent officials'. I was a
Canadian Government Officer for roughly twenty years. One of the 'slogans'
that became trendy in late sixties was 'SH*T HAPPENS'---not a very
convincing slogan, but I've never been very convinced by slogans; there was
a bunch of them posted on boards in Old Goa, right next to Gandhinagar!!!
We have incompetent officials and competent officials in both Countries.
None of us is PERFECT.

The 'scriptural version' might be the parable of the 'tares sown with the
wheat'---"an enemy has (consciously or unconsciously) done this'; but the
answer is there too--- "Let them all grow together, and when the harvest
time comes the junk will be burned and the good stuff taken into the barn."

The evolution of a planetary political culture is the same as all the rest
of evolution---on a 'cosmic time-line'. Rome was not built in a day. Read
my 'cosmogenesis guru', Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. 'Multiculturalism' will
work and not work in different circumstances---but the Future is headed
toward UNION, as Teilhard's translator put it, "willy-nilly".

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Frederick Noronha <
fredericknoron...@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.cc.com/episodes/way50h/the-daily-show-with-
> trevor-noah-extended---february-22--2018---lupita-
> nyong-o-season-23-ep-23062?xrs=synd_facebook_022318_tds_43
>
> OR
> https://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow/videos/10156308118926800/
>
> and not a word from all our Canadian Goanetters out there!
>
> Please restore our faith in humankind... and comment! FN
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>
>
>
>
>
> - *"Debt is how the rich extract wealth from the rest of us, at home and
> abroad." David Graeber*
>
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Re: [Goanet] Oh gawd, look what your Prime Minister is doing in India...

[Dan Driscoll]

Many Thanks. Once in Goa a chap came into a little bar I was in, wearing a
T Shirt that said, "I WAS AN ATHEIST, UNTIL I LEARNED THAT I WAS GOD".

One of the Roman Emperors, on his deathbed, is recorded as having said, "I
feel as if I am becoming a god".

Teilhard's spin on that is that human consciousness is evolving into an
'ecstatic ultra-state', eventually to embrace the whole planet (long down
the road, in what he terms Point Omega). But in the present it is subject
to what Teilhard terms 'the play of large numbers' (statistics)---hitting
on only certain individuals who have had benefit of 'wideband life
experience' (my interpretation). The Internet comes as the exact 'global
collaboration vehicle' for those individuals.

The Paul of Tarsus story (on Road to Damascus) is a case in point. Teilhard
used Paul & John (Apostle) as his scriptural resources---but (basically)
all of artistic endeavor is 'inspired'.

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 1:14 AM, Venantius J Pinto <
venantius.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dan—
>
> You rock. Say it as you see it, sense it, and know it.
>
> In India, at design school we would say dakkand/s (lids) to those who
> ticked us off. And not to forget, baida (egg, egghead — various
> connotations).
> We also had hajams (barbers) much as the geniuses may say is improper.
> Ouch! There are harsher ones, but I will stop now.
>
> Time for some t-shirts. For sure if I make a base in India. Teilhard
> t-shirts too!
>
> Best,
>
> —Venantius
>
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 6:15 PM, Dan Driscoll 
> wrote:
>
> > What I do not like about it is 'the way THEY'VE  dressed him up; the silk
> > pyjamas and the capes, etc. he would not PERSONALLY have selected this;
> > it's being done by others, and I'd say that one of young Trudeau's little
> > weaknesses is being too polite to say 'No'.
> >
> > Inappropriate Invites are the fallout from 'incompetent officials'. I
> was a
> > Canadian Government Officer for roughly twenty years. One of the
> 'slogans'
> > that became trendy in late sixties was 'SH*T HAPPENS'---not a very
> > convincing slogan, but I've never been very convinced by slogans; there
> was
> > a bunch of them posted on boards in Old Goa, right next to Gandhinagar!!!
> > We have incompetent officials and competent officials in both Countries.
> > None of us is PERFECT.
> >
> > The 'scriptural version' might be the parable of the 'tares sown with the
> > wheat'---"an enemy has (consciously or unconsciously) done this'; but the
> > answer is there too--- "Let them all grow together, and when the harvest
> > time comes the junk will be burned and the good stuff taken into the
> barn."
> >
> > The evolution of a planetary political culture is the same as all the
> rest
> > of evolution---on a 'cosmic time-line'. Rome was not built in a day. Read
> > my 'cosmogenesis guru', Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. 'Multiculturalism'
> will
> > work and not work in different circumstances---but the Future is headed
> > toward UNION, as Teilhard's translator put it, "willy-nilly".
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Frederick Noronha <
> > fredericknoron...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.cc.com/episodes/way50h/the-daily-show-with-
> > > trevor-noah-extended---february-22--2018---lupita-
> > > nyong-o-season-23-ep-23062?xrs=synd_facebook_022318_tds_43
> > >
> > > OR
> > > https://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow/videos/10156308118926800/
> > >
> > > and not a word from all our Canadian Goanetters out there!
> > >
> > > Please restore our faith in humankind... and comment! FN
> > > --
> > > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> > > _/
> > > _/  FN* फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا‎ +91-9822122436
> > > _/  RADIO GOANA: https://archive.org/details/@fredericknoronha
> > > _/
> > > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - *"Debt is how the rich extract wealth from the rest of us, at home
> and
> > > abroad." David Graeber*
> > >
> > > undefined‌
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> > signature&utm_campaign=
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> > >
> >
>

Re: [Goanet] Oh gawd, look what your Prime Minister is doing in India...

[Dan Driscoll]

Perhaps I should add that by virtue of some friends Membership I was in the
Calcutta Cricket Club one evening (circa 1976) wearing a 'raw silk
waistcoat'; admitted to the 'inner sanctum' I was politely asked to
withdraw from the room. Problem was solved by donning a somewhat
ill-fitting black jacket & tie from a coat-hook in the anteroom.

My suggestion that the silk garments would not have been 'Justin's choice'
might be challenged, but I think that like most people 'touring India' he
(and family) would have been 'brought to the Emporium' and encouraged to
'choose'. Time would be a great 'constraint'---someone standing by watching
the second hand of the ticking watch. Bless 'em All!

I wonder now if all the above was not some kind of dream, but no---it all
happened. As I used to say to my dear Goa/India wife, "Everything happens
by Accident, on Purpose".

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Frederick Noronha <
fredericknoron...@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.cc.com/episodes/way50h/the-daily-show-with-
> trevor-noah-extended---february-22--2018---lupita-
> nyong-o-season-23-ep-23062?xrs=synd_facebook_022318_tds_43
>
> OR
> https://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow/videos/10156308118926800/
>
> and not a word from all our Canadian Goanetters out there!
>
> Please restore our faith in humankind... and comment! FN
> --
> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> _/
> _/  FN* फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا‎ +91-9822122436
> _/  RADIO GOANA: https://archive.org/details/@fredericknoronha
> _/
> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - *"Debt is how the rich extract wealth from the rest of us, at home and
> abroad." David Graeber*
>
> undefined‌
>  Sent with Mailtrack
>  signaturevirality&>
>

Re: [Goanet] Ganja: cannabinoid cannabidiol (CBD), strengthens bones and accelerates the healing of fractures

[Dan Driscoll]

One learns something new every day. In mid sixties I was introduced to
cannabis by a bright boy that I taught in High School, but on taking up
retirement residence in Goa/India (1984) it became a matter of 'water,
water everywhere, nor any drop to drink'; 'foreigners' were closely
watched, and my dear Goan spouse would not keep well with the anxiety that
I might be deported.

I have often been fascinated by stories that the  tomato was considered a
'poisoned apple' by American Colonists, but only this morning have an
explanation: several 'aristocrats' died from mercury poisoning after
mashing up tomatoes on pewter plates; now we don't get the mercury from the
plates, but from the tomatoes!

You will perhaps be knowing that 'Trudeau the Younger' is about to legalize
recreational use of cannabis in Canada---due to kick in by July 1st Inst. I
would that our Xian Community would adopt the Rastafarian tenant whereby
cannabis is held as 'a sacrament'; any substance can be either 'an
addiction' or 'God's Gift', depending on the mind-set & expectation of the
consumer.

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 9:15 PM, Fidibus  wrote:

> http://ushealthtimes.com/scientist-reveal-what-cannabis-
> does-to-your-bones/
>
> --
> Rebellion against the norms is Love for the Creation
>
> skype:fidibee
>
> homepage: www.fidibus.info
>
>
>
> ---
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> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>

Re: [Goanet] Guess... what the Pope had for dinner (Suveen Sinha, HT)

[Dan Driscoll]

Interesting 'Stuff'. It was my 'destiny' to live in Goa for a long time,
having espoused (in Canada, 1970)  Germana Diniz, whose mother was 'a
Velho' from Caranzalem. In her  300 year old 'mother's house' there were
many artifacts including a 'cod liver oil bottle' with a *Made in Canada*
stampPortuguese fishermen took cod on 'The Grand Banks', and one of
Newfoundland's suburban landmarks is *Portugal Cove*. That 'salt cod &
potato' dish, which is considered 'festive' in Goa may also be on this
Chef's List. My old brain has become so fragmented that at this point I
have forgotten its name.

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Goanet Reader 
wrote:

>
> http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/bebinca-to-prawn-pulao-when-chef-vikas-khanna-made-dinner-for-the-pope/story-2sgrxAg6dkr6gJSAC0lwWL.html
>
> Bebinca to prawn pulao: When chef Vikas Khanna made dinner for the Pope
>
> Suveen Sinha, Hindustan Times, New Delhi
>  |
> Updated: Jun 16, 2016 20:52 IST
>
> Pope Francis poses for a selfie with chef Vikas Khanna at the Vatican (HT
> Photo)
> 
>
> In the olden days, the Christian nuns in Goa used egg whites to starch
> their clothes. They did not know what to do with the yolks, so they
> used them to make a sweet dish. Over time the instinctive cuisine
> evolved into a seven-layer dessert that came to be known as Bebinca,
> ostensibly named after a Portuguese desert.
>
> If only those nuns of yore could have known this: on Wednesday, Pope
> Francis, for his dinner at the Vatican, was served the Bebinca, along
> with 12 other dishes, all cooked by Indian chef Vikas Khanna. "I used
> a pizza oven to make the Bebinca. I could not make all seven layers, I
> made only four," Khanna told HT over the phone from the Vatican. "It
> has not sunk in yet that I served the Pope a dish created by the
> Christians in Goa."
>
> The other 12 dishes were also taken from the cuisines developed by
> Indian Christians in the catholic regions. Khanna’s favourite among
> them is the vegetable stew made at Mother Teresa’s Missionaries of
> Charity in Kolkata. It is made in mustard oil with paanch phoran, a
> mix of five spieces. Vikas personally dried, roasted, and powdered the
> five spices.
>
> Vikas Khanna presents his book to Pope Francis. (HT Photo)
>
> After handing over the 13 dishes to the office of the Pontiff, which
> alone serves food to the Pope, Khanna got to spend seven to eight
> minutes with Pope Francis and gave him his book, Utsav. It is a
> 1,200-page, 15-kg tome that brings together dishes of 26 festivals and
> 50 ceremonies from different parts of the country. The book is
> organised according to the calendar; Christmas, therefore, comes in
> the end.
>
> A photo from Vikas Khanna’s book Utsav shows a Muslim woman with her
> children dressed as Santa Claus. (HT Photo)
>
> The Pope rifled through the pages right down to the Christmas section,
> which also has a photo of a woman in a burkha carrying a child in her
> lap and holding another’s hand. Both the children are dressed as Santa
> Claus. The Pope, who often talks about the importance of pluralism in
> society, spent time looking at the photo. "He said it is really
> beautiful," said Khanna.
>
> The chef spent three days preparing the Pope’s dinner, with a crew
> that only spoke Italian. Khanna therefore downloaded a new Google app,
> which did the trick for him. Everything you speak into that app gets
> spoken back in Italian. "Meri to vaat lag gai (I got screwed)," said
> Khanna with a chuckle, "but it’s been the most awesome three days of
> my life."
>
> The dinner was a culmination of a discussion Khanna started years ago
> with the Vatican about the hunger initiative, which is close to the
> Pope's heart. His people were delighted that a chef was talking about
> hunger. At the end of their meeting, the Pope gave Khanna a rose ring.
> "I'm going to savour it the rest of life," says Khanna, who attended
> the mass before leaving the Vatican.
>
> Dinner highlights
>
> 1. Mother Teresa's Holy breakfast vegetable stew: Kolkata
> 2. Amitar Khar: spiced green papaya from Assam
> 3. Fish Paturi in banana leaf: West Bengal
> 4. Chicken Ishtew with appams: Kerala
> 6. Lamb Vindaloo with sannas: Goa
> 7. Green papaya chutney: West Bengal
> 8. Prawn Pulao: Goa
> 9. Dodol:  Goa
>

Re: [Goanet] George Menezes

[Dan Driscoll]

I'm saddened to hear of his passing, but we can celebrate his life and
literary achievement. We can 'see his star in heaven'. My late wife Germana
knew him as a friend from 'the days of their youth'.

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Eugene Correia 
wrote:

> George Menezes' Sugar and Spice column in Goa Today. was pleasing to read.
> Along with Behram Contractor (Busybee), he was a must-read guy.  It was
> indeed funny when he joined BJP and the party opted him on its national
> executive. One didn't know whether to laugh or cry. It was long standing
> joke, sort of a joke on himself. Blame it on hs friend with Ram Jethmalani.
> Seems it was BJP's ulterior motive to get someone like George in its fold,
> as George was, I think, on the prestigious Pontifical Council for the
> Laity. For the BJP, George was bit catch, as George was for a staunch
> catholic and one time was president of the All-India Catholic Union. I am
> not sure if he was president of the Catholic Association of Bombay. George
> may have never felt so uncomfortable in the BJP, that his design to change
> the party from within was something of a wild dream. He made himself a
> laughing stock. Before he could do further damage to himself, he quit. He
> saved his soul. The secular-minded people were indeed happy he had escape
> from hell.
>
> PS: Surprised that the spelling and grammar checker on this forum hasn't
> commented on the few errors that I made in my earlier post. I am waiting.
>
> Eugene
>

Re: [Goanet] Deccan Herald interview

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Having done quite a bit of editing work for writing on Goan historical
topics I would venture an opinion on this. Without getting into any of the
basic pros and cons, concerning rationale for how and why things were done,
I would say that the relationship between implementation of the
inquisitiorial policy in the Region and the dating of Xavier's departure and
eventual death need not at all negate his influence in the matter. I suspect
that very little of any decision-making that came out of Rome and Lisboa for
up to half a century after Xavier's passing would have been without heavy
reliance on his judgement. Xavier and Ignatius were like two blood brothers,
and the generation of Jesuit decision-makers that followed them would have
worked under influence of their stated opinions (plainly indicated and
preserved in the correspondence record).

I don't think anyone disputes the fact that SFX had a rather jaundiced view
of the Indian ethos ('with their superstitions and idolotaries'); he had
much more respect for what he percieved as the superior culture in Japan. I
do not think that this takes away from his merit as a missionary; it was
simply the Zietgeist that characterized the Epoch. SFX earned his missionary
spurs in India with his work among the pearl fishers.


On 5/3/10, Bernado Colaco  wrote:
>
> I think Gilbert's challenge that  SFX left Goa, before  the Inquisition was
> introduced has not been answered below. Instead what one reads is typical
> rigmarole defending the interview. This is a true provocative interview by
> the interviewer and interviewee and fodder for the extremist camp who in the
> past have used this kind of information against the Catholics.
>
> BC
>
>
> So what is the evidence for the two-faced nature of what I read from
> Teo?  Not too long ago, I thought there was progress on the truth
> about the Inquisition, when Teo headlined one of his
> original post / thread as "Inquisition for Colonial Disciplining."? So
> Teo finds rational for the Inquisition in this thread; but in the
> interview severely critics SFX for thinking along similar lines. No
> where in the article was it mentioned that the inquisition was
> introduced to Goa more than a?17 years?AFTER SFX left Goa and 8 years
> AFTER HE DIED.? So to link the abuses of the inquisition to SFX is an
> outrage that Teo, the reporter Devika Siquera and the newspaper editor
> (all Goans) should be ashamed off.?
>
> TRS:
> Gilbert should know that interviews are brief and one can hardly ever
> say all that one wants to say. Even what is said carries editorial
> cuts and changes when appear in print!  That is why no single article
> / interview should ever be read in isolation. I would suggest that
> Gilbert or anyone else should comment only after they have read all my
> writings during the past three and half decades! Rushing around to
> make cheap statements is easy, but also irresponsible. It should also
> be said that historians have the obligation to correct themselves
> along the way, if and when new sources require it. That is honesty,
> not lack of it, as someone tried to post to Goanet just a couple of
> days ago.  Those who see monotones are either morones or colour-blind!
> Besides, sending private mails with unsolicited information to cause
> intrigues or to put one Goanetter against another should have no claim
> of respect for privacy anywhere among honest persons. Fortunately
> there are Goanet archives for those who wish to verify the contents
> and contexts.
>
>
>
>
>

[Goanet] SFX & Inquisition. . .Gilbert & Teotonio:

[Dan Driscoll]

Might I venture an opinion, after some fairly extensive reading occasioned by 
an editing job I was asked to do involving historical writing:

The link between Xavier's encouragement of inquisitorial policy in India and 
the time of his departure and eventual demise may be quite unaffected by the 
time dimension. Xavier was basically an Administrator (Provincial Superior) in 
Goa, and his recommendations (right down to his marginal notes) would have been 
been the signposts for decision-makers in Rome, Lisbon and Goa for at least 
half a century after his death. 

I think that Xavier earned his spurs as a Missionary for his work with the 
'pearl divers'. He probably despised the Goa 'desk work', and was gone 'beyond 
the horizon' at every possible opportunity. I should say he was mistaken in his 
somewhat jaundiced view of Indian Culture, and in his greater appreciation of 
Japanese; but he was acting under the prevailing zeitgeist of his time. Making 
a saint of him did not confer infallibility, or even 'objectivity'---but 
despite all that he was still a very great person.

In respect to the work of Dr. Theotonio De Souza, he has fully demonstrated his 
committment to objective thinking in the historical context. I think that he is 
doing the right thing in his careful analysis of very complex processes, now in 
danger of being enveloped in the mists of time. But we must not expect 
infallibility or total objectivity from him either. He has a difficult job to 
do, and he's doing it as best he can.

Re: [Goanet] Deccan Herald interview

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Thanks, at least for noticing. I'm no academic, so do not want to be a
nuisance. I feel that this forum can admit of simple lay persons
impressions, not necessarily scientific documentation. Will have no further
comment. Will try to be guided and profit from your more expert opinions.


On 5/4/10, Gilbert Lawrence  wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Thanks for corroborating that there is no evidence of SFX directly
> responsible / caused the Inquisition to be brought to Goa.  The decision to
> introduce the Inquisition to Goa in 1560 was made by the king in Lisboa,
> long after SFX left Goa and died.  As Teo rightly claims (see below)
> Inquisition was "essentially a political institution for disciplining all
> colonial subjects."
>
> If SFX insisted on the Inquisition, he would have stayed in Goa in colonial
> comfort, and spent his career lobbying for the Inquisition.  Yet, SFX moved
> on to more important things.  In fact if the Inquisition was SFX's idea,
> that thought would / should have died with him.
>
> You are claiming that really it was 'devoted associates' of Xavier and
> Ignatius in Rome and Lisboa that lobbied for the Inquisition in Goa. To the
> best of my knowledge neither of these two men had much of a following in
> Lisboa pre-1560.  And why would Rome want Inquisition in Goa? (see Teo's
> reason for the Inquisition)
>
> No one really cares for what you "suspect."  Please post the hard evidence
> to support your hypothesis. This includes names of individuals and their
> associations with SFX on one hand and Lisboa on the other. Or else what you
> write may be an example of English hubris and speculation.
>
> BTW, looks like you are English / Irish. What did the English and Scottish
> kings do / use to discipline their subjects during similar period?  And did
> Rome, Xavier and / or Ignatius have any influence of what went on in
> England?  Thanks in anticipation and I look forward to the valuable
> information which you are  going to provide us.
> Regards, GL
>
>
> --- DAN DRISCOLL
>
> I would say that the relationship between implementation of the
> inquisitiorial policy in the Region and the dating of Xavier's departure and
> eventual death need not at all negate his influence in the matter. I suspect
> that very little of any decision-making that came out of Rome and Lisboa for
> up to half a century after Xavier's passing would have been without heavy
> reliance on his judgement. Xavier and Ignatius were like two blood brothers.
>
>
> -- TRS wrote
>
> The Inquisition was not a religious institution, but essentially a
> political institution for disciplining all colonial subjects.
>
>
>
>

Re: [Goanet] Deccan Herald Interview

[DAN DRISCOLL]

I guess I'll have to disappoint you. At age 80 yrs I may simply have to
'wallow in my hogwash'. I'm not able to come up with citations. Having gone
through several thousands of lines about the early colonial period I simply
had an intuitive feeling that even Xavier himself had less than cordial
feelings about upper caste natives and may well have recommended that
colonial policy should see that they did not slide back into their
'superstitions and idolotories'. I even have a vague feeling that I read
somewhere that he did make a recommend of that sort---but I suppose that is
tantamount to blasphemy, and proof that the old divil hisself is on my
trail.

I suppose I'm in the wrong space here. Had the idea that these dialogue
sites are pretty well open to all comers and that academic criteria doesn't
prevail so much. Having followed Dr. Teotonio's work in local media I felt
that the kind of criticism I saw from you was a 'rush to judgement'; but you
have, perhaps quite rightly 'hoisted me on my own petard'. Surrounded by
people who are so RIGHT, I should perhaps unsubscribe.


On 5/5/10, Gilbert Lawrence  wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> I am responding to a point because you wrote it twice, (see below) and as
> you edit historical articles; on which likely you "pass mustard."
>
> SFX's letters to the king in Lisbon and superiors in Rome,  clearly reflect
> SFX frustrations with the Portuguese colonial administration for:
>
> 1. Colonial Govt. corruption.
> 2. Lack of enforcing any legal and moral codes on the colonialists.
> 3. Exploitation of natives.
>
> The response and support SFX received in reply, from those to whom he
> repeatedly wrote, was one of empty-lip service. Please feel free to
> contradict me with quotes and references. This may partly explain Xavier's
> short stay in Goa.
>
> Now you (and others) suggest SFX's letters had a greater impact after SFX
> died, than when he was alive. At best, I would say, SFX's letters were used
> by the powers-that-be to further ones agenda, just like his letters are used
> today.  At worse, claiming that SFX letters were "signposts for
> decision-makers in Rome, Lisbon and Goa for at least half a century after
> his death" is pure hogwash and wild speculation  unless you have
> govt.  documents (which references SFX letters) which can support this
> claim.
>
> Yet what is outrageous is to link SFX (concerns about colonial abuses) as
> leading to the abuses of the inquisition; and further using SFX as the
> reason for the need of an Inquisition museum in Goa.
>
> As a history buff I would look at events in 1555-1560, specifically at the
> imminent dangers in 1560, to the causes(s) for introducing the Inquisition;
> rather than relying of documents/ letters received 17 years earlier, which
> could well have been gathering dust.
>
> As Goans we know that Teo is doing the best he can. Hence we give him the
> benefit of the doubt. With what you have written twice,  Teo's writings are
> more aimed to please Western academic speculative interest.  Living in the
> West, I see a lot of speculation (a.k.a. 'fresh thinking') by those trying
> to create a niche for their work; which is so important for academic
> funding. The inquisition museum in Goa is one such "innovative idea."
>
> Saying goes, "We may have been born at night; but we were not been born
> LAST NIGHT."  I hope we can see responses to questions to you in several
> posts.  Those responses should be easy for you with "extensive reading
> occasioned by an editing job I was asked to do involving historical
> writing."
>
> Regards, GL
>
> --- Dan Driscoll
>
> Might I venture an opinion, after some fairly extensive reading occasioned
> by an editing job I was asked to do involving historical writing:
>
> The link between Xavier's encouragement of inquisitorial policy in India
> and the time of his departure and eventual demise may be quite unaffected by
> the time dimension. Xavier was basically an Administrator (Provincial
> Superior) in Goa, and his recommendations (right down to his marginal notes)
> would have been the signposts for decision-makers in Rome, Lisbon and Goa
> for at least half a century after his death.
>
> Dr. Theotonio De Souza,   But we must not expect infallibility or total
> objectivity from him either. He has a difficult job to do, and he's doing it
> as best he can.
>
> --- DAN DRISCOLL
>
> I would say that the relationship between implementation of the
> inquisitiorial policy in the Region and the dating of Xavier's departure and
> eventual death need not at all negate his influence in the matter. I suspect
> that very little of any decision-making that came out of Rome and Lisboa for
> up to half a century after Xavier's passing would have been without heavy
> reliance on his judgement. Xavier and Ignatius were like two blood brothers.
>
>
>
>

Re: [Goanet] Deccan Herald Interview

[DAN DRISCOLL]

I guess I should add, by way of closure for myself on this, that the 'double
post' was also result of my amateurism with p.c. protocols. As you may
notice, the two compositions were done within minutes of each other, because
I thought that the first 'send' attempt went to some kind of cyber black
hole. It was not meant as 'double provocation'. Anyway, thanks for the fun
of tilting at the windmill. Let's all try to be good sports.

On 5/5/10, Gilbert Lawrence  wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> I am responding to a point because you wrote it twice, (see below) and as
> you edit historical articles; on which likely you "pass mustard."
>
> SFX's letters to the king in Lisbon and superiors in Rome,  clearly reflect
> SFX frustrations with the Portuguese colonial administration for:
>
> 1. Colonial Govt. corruption.
> 2. Lack of enforcing any legal and moral codes on the colonialists.
> 3. Exploitation of natives.
>
> The response and support SFX received in reply, from those to whom he
> repeatedly wrote, was one of empty-lip service. Please feel free to
> contradict me with quotes and references. This may partly explain Xavier's
> short stay in Goa.
>
> Now you (and others) suggest SFX's letters had a greater impact after SFX
> died, than when he was alive. At best, I would say, SFX's letters were used
> by the powers-that-be to further ones agenda, just like his letters are used
> today.  At worse, claiming that SFX letters were "signposts for
> decision-makers in Rome, Lisbon and Goa for at least half a century after
> his death" is pure hogwash and wild speculation  unless you have
> govt.  documents (which references SFX letters) which can support this
> claim.
>
> Yet what is outrageous is to link SFX (concerns about colonial abuses) as
> leading to the abuses of the inquisition; and further using SFX as the
> reason for the need of an Inquisition museum in Goa.
>
> As a history buff I would look at events in 1555-1560, specifically at the
> imminent dangers in 1560, to the causes(s) for introducing the Inquisition;
> rather than relying of documents/ letters received 17 years earlier, which
> could well have been gathering dust.
>
> As Goans we know that Teo is doing the best he can. Hence we give him the
> benefit of the doubt. With what you have written twice,  Teo's writings are
> more aimed to please Western academic speculative interest.  Living in the
> West, I see a lot of speculation (a.k.a. 'fresh thinking') by those trying
> to create a niche for their work; which is so important for academic
> funding. The inquisition museum in Goa is one such "innovative idea."
>
> Saying goes, "We may have been born at night; but we were not been born
> LAST NIGHT."  I hope we can see responses to questions to you in several
> posts.  Those responses should be easy for you with "extensive reading
> occasioned by an editing job I was asked to do involving historical
> writing."
>
> Regards, GL
>
> --- Dan Driscoll
>
> Might I venture an opinion, after some fairly extensive reading occasioned
> by an editing job I was asked to do involving historical writing:
>
> The link between Xavier's encouragement of inquisitorial policy in India
> and the time of his departure and eventual demise may be quite unaffected by
> the time dimension. Xavier was basically an Administrator (Provincial
> Superior) in Goa, and his recommendations (right down to his marginal notes)
> would have been the signposts for decision-makers in Rome, Lisbon and Goa
> for at least half a century after his death.
>
> Dr. Theotonio De Souza,   But we must not expect infallibility or total
> objectivity from him either. He has a difficult job to do, and he's doing it
> as best he can.
>
> --- DAN DRISCOLL
>
> I would say that the relationship between implementation of the
> inquisitiorial policy in the Region and the dating of Xavier's departure and
> eventual death need not at all negate his influence in the matter. I suspect
> that very little of any decision-making that came out of Rome and Lisboa for
> up to half a century after Xavier's passing would have been without heavy
> reliance on his judgement. Xavier and Ignatius were like two blood brothers.
>
>
>
>

Re: [Goanet] Deccan Herald Interview

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Sorry to disappoint. British Education is without peer. I was brought up in
Eastern Canada, where there is still some catching up to do!

On 5/7/10, Gilbert Lawrence  wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> I was really disappointed with your response below.  However, I compliment
> and salute you for your forthright honesty.  You are a gentleman.
>
> It appears you quote what others parrot without the authors providing
> specific references and cross-checks. And I am surprised that this goes on
> in "historical journal articles" that you read / reviewed / edited.
>
> If you think I was too exacting on you and others, perhaps you can have the
> consolation that this is the British training that I received studying
> London.  I am not blaming the British system; but rather I am praising them
> and trying to pass it on.
>
> Regards, GL
>
>  DAN DRISCOLL
>
> I'm not able to come up with citations. Having gone through several
> thousands of lines about the early colonial period I simply had an intuitive
> feeling that even Xavier himself had ... I even have a vague feeling that I
> read somewhere that he did make a recommend of that sort   you have,
> perhaps quite rightly 'hoisted me on my own petard'.
>
>
>
>

[Goanet] Man Beyond the Bridge. . . .

[Dan Driscoll]

In respect to the Man beyond the Bridge dialogue, I have my problems with the 
title too, but not being a Konkani, Konkanni or Konkni speaker I beg leave to 
render it (however inadequately or inappropriately) in translation. I find all 
the comments tolerable enough, and interesting---except perhaps for the point 
about not actually seeing the work because of the lacuna in 'appropriate 
titling'. One could miss out on a good thing with that stratagem; better try 
taking a peep at it anyway!

 I happen to have on my shelf a vintage book---the Jonathan Cape, 1927 Volume 
of Revolt in the Desert, by the celebrated T.E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia). 
It is prefaced by the following 'Publisher's Note'. 

 

PUBLISHER'S NOTE

It seems necessary to explain that the spelling of Arabic names throughout this 
book varies according to the whim of the author.

The publisher's proof-reader objected strongly to the apparent inconsistencies 
which he found, and a long and entertaining correspondence ensued between 
author and publisher. The author's attitude can best be judged from the 
following extracts which show questions and answers:

Slip # I: Jeddah and Jidda used impartially throughout; Intentional? 

A: (T.E. Lawrence)  Rather.

Slip # 16: Bir Waheida, was Bir Waheidi.

A: Why not? All one place.

Slip # 20: Nuri, Emir of the Ruwalla, belongs to the 'chief family of the 
Rualla' On Slip # 33 'Rualla horse,' and Slip 38, 'killed one Rueili.' In all 
later slips 'Rualla.'

 Should also have used Ruwala and Ruala.

Slip # 28: The Bisaita is also spelt Biseita.

Good.

 Slip # 47. Jedha, the she camel, was Jedhah on Slip # 40.

She was a splendid beast.

Slip # 53. 'Meleager, the immoral poet.' I have put 'immortal' poet, but the 
author may mean immoral after all.

Immorality I know. Immortality I cannot judge. As you please: 
Meleager will not sue us for libel.

 

 

Slip # 65: Author is addressed 'Ya Auruns,' but on Slip 56 was 'Aurans.'

Also Lurens and Runs: not to mention 'Shaw.' More to follow, if 
time permits.

ooo

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: [Goanet] Man Beyond the Bridge. . . .

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Yeah. You probably have a point there; but could'nt resist sending, for
Lawrence's dry wit. In some other respects though I guess the poor man had
his problems. He managed to get himself killed by crashing his big bike into
a tree.

On 5/28/10, floriano  wrote:
>
> Dear Dan,
> This is very enlightening as well as refreshing to the one who has started
> this 'name' controversy.
>
> However, you must understand  that a little 'nit-picking' here and there is
> necessary to get some unusual attention when otherwise it would be simply
> ignored as 'some clogged brains'. Therefore,  the call for a boycott.
>
> And I think authors and film producers will pay more attention to their  '
> given titles' in the near future.
>
> Cheers
> floriano
> goasuraj
> 9890470896
> www.goasu-raj.org
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Driscoll" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:12 PM
> Subject: [Goanet] Man Beyond the Bridge. . . .
>
>
> In respect to the Man beyond the Bridge dialogue, I have my problems with
>> the title too, but not being a Konkani, Konkanni or Konkni speaker I beg
>> leave to render it (however inadequately or inappropriately) in translation.
>> I find all the comments tolerable enough, and interesting---except perhaps
>> for the point about not actually seeing the work because of the lacuna in
>> 'appropriate titling'. One could miss out on a good thing with that
>> stratagem; better try taking a peep at it anyway!
>>
>> I happen to have on my shelf a vintage book---the Jonathan Cape, 1927
>> Volume of Revolt in the Desert, by the celebrated T.E. Lawrence (Lawrence of
>> Arabia). It is prefaced by the following 'Publisher's Note'.
>>
>
>

[Goanet] THIBAW PALACE, RATNAGIRI. . .

[Dan Driscoll]

N.T. Panorama, 4-7-10, carried a good piece on this. Ever since reading the 
brilliant Amitav Ghosh Novel The Glass Palace I am fascinated by that bit of 
History. Wondering if there should not be a 'pilgrimage tour' from Goa, so that 
people here can learn more about it. Anyone wanting to get 'more', check for 
The Glass Palace @ Broadway Books.

[Goanet] United we Stand. . . .

[Dan Driscoll]

Went to see this English Translation of a Teatro, at Kala Main Auditorium this 
Aug 17th evening; and pleased to see that Mr. Thomazino Cardozo was favored 
with a Full House. Nice work on the part of all, and especially Lead Ladies and 
Set Design. 

With my two dozen Konkani words and phrases I'm always fascinated by the 
interogative 'What Happened?'---heard so often from real 'Koncars' when using 
English. Not a bad Title for Mr. Thomazino's next English Show. . . what would 
be the rendition in Konkani?

Re: [Goanet] United we Stand. . . .

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Ah, Good. I hear it so often in Goan's English usage.* Dev Borem Korum*.

On 8/17/10, Frederick Noronha  wrote:
>
> Kitem zalem? FN
>
> Frederick Noronha
> +91-9822122436
> +91-832-2409490
>
>
> On 17 August 2010 22:09, Dan Driscoll  wrote:
>
> > Went to see this English Translation of a Teatro, at Kala Main Auditorium
> > this Aug 17th evening; and pleased to see that Mr. Thomazino Cardozo was
> > favored with a Full House. Nice work on the part of all, and especially
> Lead
> > Ladies and Set Design.
> >
> > With my two dozen Konkani words and phrases I'm always fascinated by the
> > interogative 'What Happened?'---heard so often from real 'Koncars' when
> > using English. Not a bad Title for Mr. Thomazino's next English Show. . .
> > what would be the rendition in Konkani?
> >
>

[Goanet] PRO MUSICA, Memorial Concert. . .Maria Sancha Pereira:

[Dan Driscoll]

Just back from the Pro Musica Memorial for late Eric Menezes, compered by his 
genial brother Les. It was an especially pleasant event, with performances by 
young student musicians.

As at Cana, they saved the best until the last. A young lady violinist by name 
Maria Sancha Pereira did Pablo de Sarasate (Introduction et Tarantelle) with 
the kind of verve that is (for me at least) a sure indication of real musical 
and performing talent. 

She was called back for Encore, and I missed the actual title---but it had the 
ring of 'The Orange Blossom Special'---suggesting that her potential is just 
not for Baroque & Romantic Period European Classical only, but for world-class 
Jazz and Contemporary. I think that someday she will be a STAR.

I will not pretend to expertise in the field, but would suggest that if a good 
Scholarship Fund is not already in the making for this girl we should see to it 
that a move is made in that direction---and before too long.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

ISSUES BEING DEBATED: In East Africa, despite colonialism,
the British afforded the Goan a sliver of a socio-political
voice. Read *Into The Diaspora Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho.
Soon to be available in Toronto. Pp 290. Via mail-order from
goa1...@gmail.com http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

Re: [Goanet] Dan Driscoll.

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Thanks to Eric Pinto, for kind Welcome. Will see if a bio-note will attach.

On 8/23/10, eric pinto  wrote:
>
>   Welcome aboard !  Your fresh writing style entertains, and thank
> you
> for keeping us informed. Would it that we might be treated to a little
> bio.
> eric.
>
>
>
>
> ____
> From: Dan Driscoll <
>
> Just back from the Pro Musica Memorial for late Eric Menezes, compered by
> his
> genial brother Les. It was an especially pleasant event, wit
> I will not pretend to expertise in the field, but would suggest that if a
> good
> Scholarship Fund is not already in the making for this girl we should see
> to it
> that a move is made in that direction---and before too long.
>
>
>
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>
> ISSUES BEING DEBATED: In East Africa, despite colonialism,
> the British afforded the Goan a sliver of a socio-political
> voice. Read *Into The Diaspora Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho.
> Soon to be available in Toronto. Pp 290. Via mail-order from
> goa1...@gmail.com http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/
>
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Goa-launch of the well-received *Into The Diaspora
Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho on Aug 29, 2010 (Sunday) at 11
am at Ravindra Bhavan, Margao. Meet the author, buy a signed
copy (only Rs 295 in Goa till stock lasts).
http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

Re: [Goanet] Medjugorje Visions Proven Not A Deception

[DAN DRISCOLL]

I have a feeling that all of us, Catholic fellows and girls 'of a certain
age', have gone through a Fatima (Miracle of the Sun) phase of great
enthusiasm; and I suppose *Medjugoria* is somewhat in the same vein, as
could be *Batim* in Goa as of the past five years or so. I will not
apologize for 'ignorance', having little technical savvy, and knowing or
caring little about whether ECG can give credible data or not. But will
apologize if what I am about to record may sound trivializing---something
which I do not intend.

I'm reminded of a segment from the novel/play/movie *Breakfast at Tiffany's*,
in which someone describes 'Holly Golightly' as a 'FAKE'. The response was,
"Oh, yeah; she is a fake, alright,---but she's a *real fake*.

Had an exchange once with friend over a pretty flower, in which he asked me,
"Is that real, or plastic?". I felt obliged to reply, "It's a* real* plastic
flower".

I'm prepared to think for myself, concerning *Lourdes*, *Fatima*, *
Medjugoria*, etc., as in some mysterious way deriving from the 'natural
order of things'. I have yet to appreciate opinions which credit Portuguese
President Salazar with promoting *Fatima* with national and imperialistic
(perhaps even commercial) varieties of 'piety'.

My rationale for maintaining a sense of respect and reverence for such
visionary experiences, is because of the 'Faith of our Fathers', going all
the way back to early Christian times when allegorical accounts of
miracles, the Nativity Stories, and the like had to be reckoned as
material/temporal *historical* events, if one were to avoid the stigma of
'heresy'.

I feel that 'realities', neuro-psychological, allegorical/metaphorical, or
whatever, may more precisely be regarded as just that---but this does not
mean that they are less 'real' because of it. In fact perhaps the 'imagined'
may at times be more real than real. If one wants to dub them with such
dramatic labels as 'hysteria', well and good; I think then that the children
of Lourdes and Fatima may have been in some sense subjects (not 'victims')
of a phenomenon partaking of hysteria, while still being genuinely 'little
saints, or angels if you will'.I do not think that the term 'fake' need even
arise, in the discussion.

I recommend the books* 'The Pagan Christ'* and *'Water into Wine'*, by my
Canadian compatriot (Biblical and Linguistic Scholar) Tom Harpur---available
from AmazonUK, or India's *Flipkart.com
*

On 8/24/10, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> SANTOSH HELEKAR wrote :
>
>  claims made about the so-called scientific studies in the links below are
> not
> credible from the neurophysiological standpoint. Electroencephalography
> (EEG)
> cannot tell us whether there is deception or not. It cannot also tell us
> whether there is self-deception or not. The purported scientific results in
> this case have not been published in any scientific journal. In fact, the
> scientist whose name is mentioned in these links has not published any
> research
> paper on EEG in general in the peer-reviewed medical scientific
> literature>
>
>
>
> RESPONSE
> : Mr. Santosh Helekar makes it obvious that he is either ignorant in the
> latest
> developments in the medical science  field or likes to just blow his
> trumpet under delusions. I
> would request him to go to this site, read carefully what EEG can detect.
> Or
> may be the argument will be that the site is a fake.
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.brainwavescience.com/Chemistry.php
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
>
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>
> Goa-launch of the well-received *Into The Diaspora
> Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho on Aug 29, 2010 (Sunday) at 11
> am at Ravindra Bhavan, Margao. Meet the author, buy a signed
> copy (only Rs 295 in Goa till stock lasts).
> http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/
>
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Goa-launch of the well-received *Into The Diaspora
Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho on Aug 29, 2010 (Sunday) at 11
am at Ravindra Bhavan, Margao. Meet the author, buy a signed
copy (only Rs 295 in Goa till stock lasts).
http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

[Goanet] Medjugoria. . .

[Dan Driscoll]

I tried a Post couple of days ago, about this Interesting stuff, so if there is 
repetition please forgive me. 

I recall my own 'Fatima-Miracle of the Sun phase', after having read the 
'pamphlet'.

Now, half-century later, I still 'believe' in what was seen and heard by those 
kids (Lourdes & Fatima; don't know much about Medjugoria), but in a different 
way! 

Don't think we should spend much time talking about 'fake' and 'deception'. 
Most of our aboriginal forebears put a lot of 'faith' in dreams, and perhaps 
these visionary phenomena partake of that neuro-psychological space. Neither 
would I want to read much about brain-scanning. Gawd! What they would have put 
those Lourdes and Fatima children through, if they had eeg, ecg, or whatever? 
Better to think of them as little 'saints' or 'angels', and leave them alone.

In lighter vein, the novel Breakfast at Tiffanys has a segment where an 
observer of the capricious Holly Golightly condems her as 'a fake'. Her 
defender replys, "Yeah; I'll grant you she is a fake; but she's a real fake"!

It may be just a little (very little) off target, but I would recommend two 
books written by my Canadian compatriot Tom Harpur (Linguist and Biblical 
Scholar). They can be found on Amazon, or now on India's good booksite 
FlipKart---The Pagan Christ; and Water into Wine.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Goa-launch of the well-received *Into The Diaspora
Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho on Aug 29, 2010 (Sunday) at 11
am at Ravindra Bhavan, Margao. Meet the author, buy a signed
copy (only Rs 295 in Goa till stock lasts).
http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

[Goanet] Into the Diaspora Wilderness. . . .

[Dan Driscoll]

Drove down from Panjim, to the New 'Ravindra Bhavan' for this book-launch. It 
looks as if it will be an extremely interesting read, and the talk by former 
MLA Rahulrau (sp?) Gracious was super good. The point he makes about 'Colonial 
history' seems to me very valid; The Region's unique character, and current 
ability to play a lead role in the 'global theatre', is consequence of the 
colonial past. The Colonists were here, and now they are gone---both realities 
should be celebrated.

One tiny quibble. Outside of the book-launch venue there was a caterer table 
with coffee and sandwichs. Being a bit peckish, after the long drive, I tried 
to engage the young custodian, to find out if I might partake. He seemed 
totally unable to relate to my query in English, and when my Konkani friends 
intervened he seemed not to comprehend Konkani either. All we could get out of 
him was a shake of the head. Caterer doing business with Ravindra Bhavan, or 
functions held therein, might be well advised to take note of that.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Goa-launch of the well-received *Into The Diaspora
Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho on Aug 29, 2010 (Sunday) at 11
am at Ravindra Bhavan, Margao. Meet the author, buy a signed
copy (only Rs 295 in Goa till stock lasts).
http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

Re: [Goanet] Into the Diaspora Wilderness. . . .

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Point well taken abt design; the Mario Mirando wall is nice, and Nataraj I
find okay. Wondering about the washroom facilities, for that big hall. Did
not see them. Wall paint peeling and plaster cracking already. The place had
a terribly 'empty' feel to it. Hopefully things will pick up when the
Theatros begin to kick in. We parked out on the road; some cars inside, but
would have to look around for the big parking lot, and a sign pointing to
it!

On 8/30/10, Pandu Lampiao  wrote:
>
> Dan,
> I thought you would notice the gaudy design of the Ravindra Bhavan;
> with a rich architectural history as ours, its rather numbing to see
> sooo many new ugly buildings all around! Take a look at
> some old architecture- its peaceful, unpretentious and
> calming...minimalist, and it reflected on our national (Goan)
> character. The 'new' architecture is ratherare the grease-balls
> called architects sans aesthetics? Guess it says a lot about where we
> are and where we are headed!!!
>
> As for not getting a response in Concani nor English is nothing
> surprising. Myself will have to soon learn to communicate in Kannad,
> no choice there!
>
> Now some nut-case on the GoaNet will write asking me what my
> contribution to architecture is!!!
>
> n Driscoll  wrote:
> > Drove down from Panjim, to the New 'Ravindra Bhavan' for this
> book-launch. It looks as if it will be an extremely interesting read, and
> the talk by former MLA Rahulrau (sp?) Gracious was super good. The point he
> makes about 'Colonial history' seems to me very valid; The Region's unique
> character, and current ability to play a lead role in the 'global theatre',
> is consequence of the colonial past. The Colonists were here, and now they
> are gone---both realities should be celebrated.
> >
> > One tiny quibble. Outside of the book-launch venue there was a caterer
> table with coffee and sandwichs. Being a bit peckish, after the long drive,
> I tried to engage the young custodian, to find out if I might partake. He
> seemed totally unable to relate to my query in English, and when my Konkani
> friends intervened he seemed not to comprehend Konkani either. All we could
> get out of him was a shake of the head. Caterer doing business with Ravindra
> Bhavan, or functions held therein, might be well advised to take note of
> that.
> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> >
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>
> Goa-launch of the well-received *Into The Diaspora
> Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho on Aug 29, 2010 (Sunday) at 11
> am at Ravindra Bhavan, Margao. Meet the author, buy a signed
> copy (only Rs 295 in Goa till stock lasts).
> http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/
>
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Goa-launch of the well-received *Into The Diaspora
Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho on Aug 29, 2010 (Sunday) at 11
am at Ravindra Bhavan, Margao. Meet the author, buy a signed
copy (only Rs 295 in Goa till stock lasts).
http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/

[Goanet] Chitra Museum, in Benaulim. . .

[Dan Driscoll]

Took some guests there on Tuesday, Sept 11th. What a fine job those young 
people (Victor Hugo Gomes & Aldina) have done. Guided tour and absolutely 
splendiferous luncheon, with charge of 500 each only. Tried to make up in 
Donation Box. The lunch itself would have been twice that in most of the 
restaurants.

Great day-tour item, but better check their 'goachitramuseum' web site to let 
them know how many to expect, particularly if ordering lunch. It's a one-hour 
car drive from Panjim, and quite accessable by the Panjim-Margao-Benaulim 
mini-bus system as well. 

Re: [Goanet] Chitra Museum, in Benaulim. . .

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Right on. Thank you.

On 9/10/10, eric pinto  wrote:
>
> I second Dan.  Victor deserves all the promotion we can muster.   eric.
>
>
>
>
> ____
> From: Dan Driscoll law...@dataone.in.
>
> Took some guests there on Tuesday, Sept 11th. What a fine job those young
> people
> (Victor Hugo Gomes & Aldina) have done. Guided tour and absolutely
> splendiferous
> luncheon, with charge of 500 each only. Tried to make up in Donation Box.
> The
> lunch itself would have been twice that in most of the restaurants.
>
> Great day-tour item, but better check their 'goachitramuseum' web site to
> let
> them know how many to expect, particularly if ordering lunch. It's a
> one-hour
> car drive from Panjim, and quite accessable by the Panjim-Margao-Benaulim
> mini-bus system as well.
>
>
>
>

Re: [Goanet] Chitra Museum, in Benaulim. . .

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Many Thanks! Happy Ganesh.

On 9/11/10, John Gomes  wrote:
>
> Hey Dan,
>   September 11th is tomorrow saturday, an unforgetable day in world
> history,Ganesh too this year.
> Know what you mean. Cheers
>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:07:59 +0530
> From: Dan Driscoll
>
> Took some guests there on Tuesday, Sept 11th. What a fine job those young
> people (Victor Hugo Gomes & Aldina) have done. Guided tour and absolutely
> splendiferous luncheon, with charge of 500 each only. Tried to make up in
> Donation Box. The lunch itself would have been twice that in most of the
> restaurants.
>

[Goanet] Living Will Provision in India. . .Toronto U Medical School;

[Dan Driscoll]

I have received a copy of 'Burial and Committal Service', for a First Cousin 
of mine who passed away in Toronto a few months ago. He had stipulated in 
his Will that mortal remains could be used for medical and scientific 
purpose.


Toronto U. Medical School did a beautiful committal service for him---along 
with over a hundred others, who were named. There was a lovely Letter of 
Thanks, signed by First Year Med Class; Order of Service; Music ((Intermezzo 
from Cavalliria Rusticana)---everything 'done decently and according to 
order' as St. Paul would have it.


INTERESTING COINCIDENCE: just a few weeks back I asked my consulting 
physician about possibility of one (in Goa) donating mortal remains for 
medical and scientific purpose. Doctor is busy person, so answer was brief: 
"FACILITY IS NOT THERE".


But do not Med Students at the great GMC (Asia's First Medical College) have 
dissection of human cadaver as part of their Syllabus? I suppose I should be 
going directly to GMC about this; but maybe there are those in our posting 
community who can comment. 

Re: [Goanet] Living Will Provision in India. . .Toronto U Medical School;

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Ah-Ha. . .had not thought of that; but very much a point there.

On 9/13/10, Gabe Menezes  wrote:
>
> On 13 September 2010 07:33, Dan Driscoll  wrote:
>
> >
> > But do not Med Students at the great GMC (Asia's First Medical College)
> > have dissection of human cadaver as part of their Syllabus? I suppose I
> > should be going directly to GMC about this; but maybe there are those in
> our
> > posting community who can comment.
> >
>
> COMMENT: India is aaah so big; I was informed by a medic who was a plastic
> surgeon, trained in India, that the bodies used to stinkthey were
> picked
> off the streets and taken in for dissection. He commented that at least in
> the West they did not have to put up with what Indian medics have to.
>
>
>
> --
> DEV BOREM KORUM
>
> Gabe Menezes.
>

[Goanet] NEW BOOK IN GOA---'GOA MASALA', BY GOANS LIVING IN CANADA. . .

[Dan Driscoll]

Someone handed me a copy the other day, and a couple of names in the inner 
flyleaf rang bells---Fred Noronha's GOA 1556, and Fr. Delio Mendonca @ XCHR.


I was about to consign Goa Masala to the lower shelf (since at the moment 
Ms. Selma Carvalho's DIASPORA book is getting a lot of attention) when our 
'reading hour' approached for wife Germana---who by now has become a 
listener rather than reader, but retains her fondness for 'Goan Stories'. As 
a Canadian I was also just a bit intrigued by 'Goan's writing in Canada'.


Opening the volume ad lib, I started with Marina De Souza's two pieces---ALL 
GOA VILLAGE FESTIVAL' and   NEIGHBORS' QUARRELS. Since I have had nearly 
fifty years auditory association with Konkani language I am (while not by 
any means 'fluent') able to navigate (in reading) for Konkani words and 
phrases. Dear Germana is wholly enthralled by Ms. Marina's sallies in 
Konkani. As victim of 'text-editor syndrome' I would be inclined to 
blue-pencil some of Marina's English idiom, but dear wife insists that her 
bracketed Konkani covers any multitude of English idiomatic sins.


Interesting slant on Literary Values, to be considered in this type of 
Collection---something that I had not really been aware of before. 

[Goanet] Blessed JHN. . . .

[Dan Driscoll]

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most of us who got first college degree in a Catholic institution John Henry 
Newman is a Patron. It would have been nice if John XXIII could have gotten 
around to doing it---but better late than never. Perhaps it will be the 
prelude to Catholic/Anglican Reconciliation! 

[Goanet] Vikram Seth Novel. . .

[Dan Driscoll]

Am asked to participate in an interesting literary exercise, to happen 
tomorrow (Sunday Oct 3rd @ Kala Academy beginning at 4 PM. A young lady 
doctoral candidate (English Lit, Delhi U.) beomes involved in 'literary 
workshops', and asks me to be the lectern reader of selected excerpts.


Tomorrow's subject is Vikram Seth's An Equal Music. I had read two of Seth's 
books (Two Lives & Golden Gate), but missed out on this one, published by 
Penguin (India) in '99. It surely is a really fine work of fiction. Reader 
is brought into the inner sanctum of great music performance.


Would appreciate seeing more about what people are reading. Right now I'm 
halfway through The Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett; a really great 
read. 

Re: [Goanet] tambdimati: the Goa review

[DAN DRISCOLL]

I'm bookmarking you. Many of the names are of those known to me, and I have
been working fairly closely over past months with Fred Noronha, Apurva, and
others. Editor V.M  gives only his intitials but if quizzed about it I would
hazard a guess; might his christened name be 'Vivek'?

May all your work go well---Dan Driscoll.

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:07 PM, V M  wrote:

> Dear Friends,
>
> Please check out the newest community media venture from Goanet.
>
> tambdimati: the Goa review is an online review of art, culture, news and
> opinion relating to the smallest state in the subcontinent. Stop by at
> www.tambdimati.com
>
> Best regards,
>
> VM
>

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: The Catholic Bigot, the Hindu Right and Goan Citizenship (Jason Keith Fernandes, GT)

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Of course there are CB's everywhere, but Messers Keith & Aloysious do well
to point out that this Region may have had double or triple dose of the CB
viruses, mainly (if not wholly) the consequence of European colonial
influence formed by a combination of 'absolutist' assumptions (Portuguese
Monarchism + Romanist Triumphalism), boiled down to a heady concentrate in
Salazar Fascism.

Recently I discovered the work of Imelda Dias, whose life story is told in
two slender volumes now in Panjim bookshops---HOW LONG IS FOREVER, and TO
LOVE AND LIVE AGAIN. It strikes me that anyone wishing to get the true
flavor of what the CD  culture meant in Goan family life (with CD hopefully
now in recession, regionally)
might take time to read her story.

The earnest belief that one's traditionally conditioned value system must be
right, and has to be passed on, has been 'gotten honestly' through teaching
methodology now recognized as obsolete and even harmful.

Let's not get into the blame game; Imelda Dias's Papa was, and is a good and
well-meaning person, as she herself would be the first to assert. His
authoritarianism was the natural consequence of received values and
upbringing.

It will now be up to our collective ability to adjust educational criteria,
if there is to be a break in that crippling chain. And clergy (Church
Hierarchy) cannot 'leave it to the school system'; something has to change
in 'catechism class'!


On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Aloysius D'Souza wrote:

> Hi Goans Everywhere,
>
> >
> > I found this article very interesting, as there still exists quite a
> number
> > of Goans -- in GOA --  who, like ostriches, continue to stick their heads
> in
> > the ground and do not acknowledge the progress that Goa has made since
> > liberation in 1961 --  and represent a stumbling block to further
> > development.
> >
> > What can other more liberal Goans do about such odd characters?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Aloysius
> >
> >
> > Wheat from Chaff
> >
> > The Catholic Bigot, the Hindu Right and Goan Citizenship
> >
> > By Jason Keith Fernandes
> > jason_keith_fernan...@yahoo.co.in
> >
> > 'Ghar ki murgi dal barabar' (the gravy of the home-bred chicken tastes
> like
> > lentil soup) and 'the grass is greener on the other side of the fence' in
> > addition to the obvious, also seem to capture perfectly a widespread
> social
> > tendency. Very often we are so bothered with what is going-on on the
> other
> > side of the fence that we forget to adequately focus on issues that crop
> up
> > within our 'own' backyard.
> >
> > Oftentimes it may seem that I am so caught up with decrying the
> histrionics
> > of the Hindu Right, both in Goa and elsewhere, that I forget to focus
> > adequately on the Catholic bigot (CB). There was however, no way I could
> > ignore this bigot given a number of emails I have recently been subject
> to,
> > which seem determined to painfully flesh out every nuance that the CB
> holds.
> > Despite the fact that I often time focus on caste and class location as a
> > way of identifying social tendencies, I would like to identify the CB not
> > with caste or class -- though these definitely play a role -- but with a
> > mindset. Perhaps belonging to the Catholic club allows one to forget
> one's
> > social location and think like the bigots, given that these bigots ruled
> the
> > Goan roost for a long, long time. Thinking like them, who knows we might
> > persuade them and ourselves that we are like them?
> >
> > At the risk of committing a grave historiographical error, let us locate
> > the origins of the Catholic bigot in the circles of Goa's colonial
> Catholic
> > elite. These ladies and gentlemen used Portuguese as a way of
> distinguishing
> > themselves, not just from the lower orders among the Catholics (who spoke
> > Concanim) but from the 'Hindus' as well. The Portuguese language was, as
> is
> > the case with certain varieties of Konknni, their caste marker. With the
> > rise of Indian nationalism across the border with British-India however,
> > they persuaded themselves to think better of their caste brethren in the
> > Hindu fold.
> > Nevertheless the fact that they were not Catholic or linked to the
> > Portuguese colonial power structure in the same social network ensured
> that
> > they always thought of their upper-caste cousins across the religious
> divide
> > as the poorer, less civilized cousin.
> >
> > Indeed, a good amount of the Hindutva animosity that the Goan Catholic
> has
> > to deal with today is linked to this cultural superciliousness. We should
> > not forget however that the non-elite Goan too suffered from this
> > superciliousness, at the hands of these CBs. Given that these elite
> groups
> > effectively represented themselves as the paragons of Goan Catholic
> culture,
> > they wound up giving all Catholics a bad name. A case of pretty houses,
> but
> > such bad manners!!! This cultural superciliousness however, is one of the
> > significant burdens t

[Goanet] Fw: Churna Paste. . .

[Dan Driscoll]

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Driscoll

To: d...@goa-tourism.com
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:12 PM
Subject: Churna Paste. . .


Looking for a GTDC 'Feedback' Button, but perhaps you can do the needful. 
With some visiting friends from Canada I took the Backwater (Savoi Village) 
Tour last Tuesday. Actually I myself am a Canadian, but married to Goan and 
living in Goa for now more than twenty years.


In general the Tour was quite okay, and what I have to relate is not by way 
of Complaint; rather let us say it may be taken as an 'Alert' or 'Cautionary 
Tale', lest it ever happen again.


I have not had Paan more than three times since coming to India, first in 
1973. At Savoi Village we sampled nice food, and the Paan was described as 
'Indian Chewing Gum'. There was no erstwhile Paan Wallah to assist us, so we 
helped ourself to the betal leaf and prepared our own 'Paan Supari'. I 
mis-judged the white paste to be something in the order of 'mayonnaise', so 
I helped myself to half a teaspoonful, liberally applied on the leaf and 
topped by other ingredients.


When I bit into it, I soon knew I could be in trouble. I managed to spit 
most of it out, but my tongue, roof of mouth and gums have been paining ever 
since, to the point that I am hardly able to take solid food, and must take 
a pain reliever to sleep at night.


I suggest that measures be taken to prevent all persons unfamiliar with the 
Paan digestive application not to make up their own Paan. A printed card 
could be prominently displayed, and perhaps someone should play the role of 
Paan Wallah, so that the lime paste is sparingly applied.


This has been almost a traumatic experience for me, and it is not over 
yet---three full days later.


Sgd: Daniel Driscoll (Mob Phone 9822123470). 

Re: [Goanet] Fw: Churna Paste. . .

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Many Thanks.

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:23 AM,  wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> Sorry to hear about your painful experience with the 'paan supari'. Perhaps
> any elderly villager in Saloi will have a suggestion for pain relief.
>
> Regards.
>
> Joel.
>

Re: [Goanet] Churna Paste

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Ha! I used to have a peg or two of Feni on regular basis, but then the
metabolism wasn't handling it---so switched to Scotch twelve year old! Now
I'm off that too. We keep following your work in local media. Thanks.

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Bernado Colaco  wrote:

> Maybe Danny should gargle his mouth with Caju Feni. It is believed that the
> Feni
> has impeccable curing properties. Please do not swallow the concoction or
> else
> you maybe dubbed as the Bridish Bebdo. (results of drinking can cause
> devastating consequences).
>
> BC
>
>
>
> -
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Goanet] Fw: Churna Paste. . .

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Thanks. GoaNet people have given helpful suggestions. My neighbor Ana
greatly enjoyed the last Book Club Meet, when I was in Delhi.

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Frederick Noronha <
fredericknoro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dan, quite a horror story! Indian chewing gum indeed! Hope you get better
> soon.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areca_nut#Effects_on_health
>
> Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
>
>
> On 28 January 2011 21:57, Dan Driscoll  wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message - From: Dan Driscoll
> > To: d...@goa-tourism.com
> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:12 PM
> > Subject: Churna Paste. . .
> >
> >
> > Looking for a GTDC 'Feedback' Button, but perhaps you can do the needful.
> > With some visiting friends from Canada I took the Backwater (Savoi
> Village)
> > Tour last Tuesday. Actually I myself am a Canadian, but married to Goan
> and
> > living in Goa for now more than twenty years.
> >
> > In general the Tour was quite okay, and what I have to relate is not by
> way
> > of Complaint; rather let us say it may be taken as an 'Alert' or
> 'Cautionary
> > Tale', lest it ever happen again.
> >
> > I have not had Paan more than three times since coming to India, first in
> > 1973. At Savoi Village we sampled nice food, and the Paan was described
> as
> > 'Indian Chewing Gum'. There was no erstwhile Paan Wallah to assist us, so
> we
> > helped ourself to the betal leaf and prepared our own 'Paan Supari'. I
> > mis-judged the white paste to be something in the order of 'mayonnaise',
> so
> > I helped myself to half a teaspoonful, liberally applied on the leaf and
> > topped by other ingredients.
> >
> > When I bit into it, I soon knew I could be in trouble. I managed to spit
> > most of it out, but my tongue, roof of mouth and gums have been paining
> ever
> > since, to the point that I am hardly able to take solid food, and must
> take
> > a pain reliever to sleep at night.
> >
> > I suggest that measures be taken to prevent all persons unfamiliar with
> the
> > Paan digestive application not to make up their own Paan. A printed card
> > could be prominently displayed, and perhaps someone should play the role
> of
> > Paan Wallah, so that the lime paste is sparingly applied.
> >
> > This has been almost a traumatic experience for me, and it is not over
> > yet---three full days later.
>

[Goanet] GRAPE ESCAPE. . .

[Dan Driscoll]

I had to make my own escape from Same. I went with friends, intending to 
take on some of that great food---but the all pervasive  intensity of high 
volume sound made any attempt at conversation (or deliberation about what we 
might most enjoy by way of food) simply impossible. We had a glass of wine, 
and SMS'd other friends to meet us at some other venue for breakfast!


Somehow organizers may be getting it wrong. Must we be subjected to 
continuous 'crescendo' of Pop-style rendition? No chance for at least one 
Set with guitar (possibly Fado with Sonia Sirsat), or a few minutes of 
flute/tabla?


Or was I just there on the wrong evening? I would judge that a large portion 
of the crowd included senior people; pensioners on holiday perhaps; they 
were trying hard to enjoy themselves, but I don't think many of them were 
succeeding.
At very least, for every twenty minutes of high volume might there be five 
or six minutes of quiet; so that   people can keep their wits together and 
confer about what they want to share by way of eats? Increased sales figures 
(for food, and maybe even for wine as well) should be a result.  If we had 
stayed for food we would surely have ordered for more vino. 

Re: [Goanet] Churna Paste

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Ah, maybe. Sometimes I hit the wrong button. Thanks for being patient.

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Bernado Colaco  wrote:

> I think you may confused me with Ms. Bemvinda Colaco of Target Goa.
>
> Bernado Colaco
>
>
> I'm off that too. We keep following your work in local media.
>
>
>
>

[Goanet] Mario Cabral e Sa's Tribute to two Principled Citizens. . .

[Dan Driscoll]

This appeared in NT Panorama for Jan 30th, in respect to two persons both of 
whom I came to know in my long sojourn in Goa. Mr. Alvaro Pereira sold me 
much of my household provisions, until my food requirements began to wane 
with increasing age. My wife used to insist that he was 'a Hero', but I knew 
little of that aspect; only that both he and his wife were charming persons 
to interact with over the shop counter.


Father Chico I came to know too, in somewhat the same vein---no appreciation 
of his earlier personal history, but fascinated by what I saw. In the 70's 
we would visit Goa from Canada. I recall a very hot and humid Sunday 
afternoon when I sauntered over from our Cousin Bemvinda Dias's house to 
'Clergy Home' for a 'Holy Hour'.


There were not more than a dozen persons in the little chapel, but there was 
Fr. Chico, sweating profusely from playing on the old foot-bellows organ and 
singing his heart out for the Benediction. Such a humble and unassuming 
person, he was.


Another 'character' whom I came to know in those 'Clergy Home days' was Fr. 
Albert Mendonca, S.J. What stories he had---enough to make for a pretty good 
book, even if some accounts could possibly have been a little embellished!


He once said to me, concerning 'progress in spirituality': "You must be 
ready to leave everything behind". Perhaps he could not even achieve that 
ideal himself, but he well knew (and could explain principles involved.


All wonderful people; not to exclude Mr. Mario Cabral e Sa himself, who can 
write so eloquently about them. 

[Goanet] Queen of Jackfruit Recipes: Geethakka

[Dan Driscoll]

Have often wondered why there is not more involvement of the food-processing 
industry with jackfruit. It would seem to me that there should be a very 
wide range of products to be derived from the jackfruit. We had a saying 
'back home' that the pork processing people 'used everything but the squeal.


A fine golden liqueur is something that I visualize in mind's eye for 
jackfruit---marketable worldwide. 

[Goanet] Anjuna Locals drive to Panjim to watch 'O Maria'. . .

[Dan Driscoll]

Story (by 'Herald Correspondent') on page four of today's Feb 12 Issue, well 
written and presented, tells of hiring four buses for residents of 
Anjuna-Caisua and members of 'Anjuna Rakhon Manch' to view 'O Maria' at 
Inox.


Now that IS A GREAT IDEA. Big value for the local 'advert buck'; sponsors 
could have a nice flyer to promote their product or cause, while at same 
time supporting local film-production. 

[Goanet] Rajan Parrikar's Letter to Herald (Feb 15th, 2011). . .

[Dan Driscoll]

Absolutely in agreement, having to listen to the racket from Swastik on the 
Betim side every evening for a half hour before it mercifully 'pushs off'.


But there is particular point he makes that I would call attention to : I 
paste, verbatim ---


"Why is amplified music allowed on the boats at all?  Any civilized person 
wanting to enjoy a ride on the water would want to take in sights in a 
tranquil

setting without having his ear drums pierced."

Exactly! Could not the marketing people do 'a study'---by simply testing 
client preference with one or two of the 'Cruise Liners' adopting 'SILENT 
MODE'---at least for the time needed to assess the result . Some appropriate 
'tags' could be tried, inviting those who would like to simply view the 
lovely surroundings, without having to endure brain-bashing disco. Try 
advertising 'Silent Cruise Mode' on FM Rainbow? 

Re: [Goanet] Rajan Parrikar's Letter to Herald (Feb 15th, 2011). . .

[DAN DRISCOLL]

I guess my point is that noone really knows for sure if they (passengers)
really want noisy music. I have been a 'passenger', and I wanted to
experience the visual delight of circling the Estuary at sundown; I did not
want noisy music, but got it anyway. I feel that there are others who may
share that preference for those sunset cruises.

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Frederick Noronha <
fredericknoro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If they passengers really want noisy music, can't they be made to go
> in for "silent noise"?
> http://www.silentnoise.in/
> FN
>
> Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
>
>
> On 15 February 2011 11:22, Dan Driscoll  wrote:
> > Absolutely in agreement, having to listen to the racket from Swastik on
> the
> > Betim side every evening for a half hour before it mercifully 'pushs
> off'.
> >
> > But there is particular point he makes that I would call attention to : I
> > paste, verbatim ---
> >
> > "Why is amplified music allowed on the boats at all?  Any civilized
> person
> > wanting to enjoy a ride on the water would want to take in sights in a
> > tranquil
> > setting without having his ear drums pierced."
> >
> > Exactly! Could not the marketing people do 'a study'---by simply testing
> > client preference with one or two of the 'Cruise Liners' adopting 'SILENT
> > MODE'---at least for the time needed to assess the result . Some
> appropriate
> > 'tags' could be tried, inviting those who would like to simply view the
> > lovely surroundings, without having to endure brain-bashing disco. Try
> > advertising 'Silent Cruise Mode' on FM Rainbow?
>

[Goanet] 18th June Road, Choked...Herald Feb 19th p. 2. . .

[Dan Driscoll]

Notion of 'a walkway with no cars' is something to be kept firmly in mind. 
Franky Gracious explains that it 'hasn't and won't be easy', but let me 
recall my experience of being in Ottawa Canada (c. 1963) when there was set 
up 'on trial basis' what may still be there as THE SPARKS STREET MALL.


Just around the corner from Ottawa's Parliament Buildings Complex was 
'Sparks Street'---always congested with vehicular traffic, and with no 
attraction for those coming down 'from Parliament Hill'; until someone came 
up with the bright idea!


Hanging flower pots, a couple of dozen potted saplings; some benches and 
umbrellas, made their appearance practically overnight; and within a week 
people were sitting out, reading their newspapers and having Horton's 
Cookies and Coffee. It was a favorite recreation of mine, after a day in the 
classroom to head for the Sparks Street Mall.


I'd suggest that a 'JUNE ROAD MALL' it be 'tried out' for a month or 
so---sometime soon before very long.


Of course there will be problems to be ironed out---but they might best be 
handled on 'trial and error basis' rather than cleared away, on paper, in 
advance---with result that the happy outcome never materializes.


With a bit of work on the 'overhead' a pedestrian mall might even be a mecca 
for 'monsoon tourism'---just some clear plastic paneling to redirect 
rainwater---which could possibly dovetail as a 'water recycling project'. 

[Goanet] Find Person. . .

[Dan Driscoll]

Some subscribers to GoaNet might be able to help on this. My wife Germana 
now confined to her chair asks me to sort through old papers which includes 
personal correspondence dating back to the mid '50s. An intriguiging letter 
is there from one Rudolph De Mello, who I think hailed from the Verem/Reis 
Magos locale in Bardez. He had a sister 'Hilda' who had a long teaching 
career in Toronto. Her husband was Joe (Daniels); we knew the family in our 
Toronto days.


I would hear Germana referring to 'Rudolph', but somehow we never seemed to 
get an update about him; don't even know if Hilda could have helped.


Evidently he was a pretty intelligent guy, but of a political persuasion not 
conducive to his thriving in the Goan context in 'Portuguese time'. I should 
think that dear Fidel Castro could have 'used' him! Question in my mind is: 
what may have become of him in terms of life down the line. Did he migrate; 
and where; and may he still be out there somewhere?? 

[Goanet] Professor Teotonio De Souza---14th March 'Herald':

[Dan Driscoll]

I feel that Professor Teotonio's work combines thoroughness with 
readability, for a general public not inclined to patience with academic 
methodology. It's possible that some may fault him for 'naming names', but I 
hope that all of us can try to appreciate the complex variety of personal 
opinion and impulse under trying socio-political conditions.


We know good friends who are identified as having been on either side of the 
divide; or perhaps sitting on the fence; or maybe running with the fox one 
day and the hounds the next.


In my view not one of them need be in the least defensive or apologetic for 
what their intuition/cultural conditioning/or whatever led them (or their 
forebears) to think, say or do.


Sending the saffron shawl to the reigning prelate was, to my way of 
thinking, a 'low blow'---hitting below the belt; so a historical referee 
might justly declare 'a foul'---but even there, let them (wherever they may 
be in the here or the hereafter) sit out whatever kind of penalty the great 
game of History can declare.


Meanwhile, more power to Professor Teotonio De Souza. He need not assume the 
role of historical referee, so long as he clearly sketches the vista 
revealed by his painstaking scan of an epoch soon to disappear from our 
sight, gone beyond our horizon---"And our little life, is rounded with a 
sleep". 

[Goanet] Obituary.. .Germana Driscoll

[Dan Driscoll]

'Germana',

Mumbai/Canada/Betim-Goa

Wife of Daniel Driscoll;

Departed peacefully, at Mandovi Clinic (Porvorim)

on 18-3-2011 at 10:00 P.M.

Cremated at Ste Inez, on 19-3-2011.

Grateful Appreciation to Fr. Delio Mendonca, S.J., and Staff of Mandovi 
Clinic.


No Condolence Visits; Just a Thought and a Prayer.

Re: [Goanet] Obituary.. .Germana Driscoll

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Thank you, Fred, for your kind words about Germana. We had beautiful
cremation service for her today; Fr. Delio said the prayers, and she was
carried on bamboo litter with banana leaf cushioning constructed by
neighbors in the yard. She always insisted that she was to be carried on a
litter, and not 'put in a box'---and she has gotten her wish.

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Frederick Noronha <
fredericknoro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sincere condolences to our friend and Goanetter Dan on the loss of his wife
> Germana. I'm sure she will be missed, and not just by Dan!
>
> My first encounter with Germana was sometime in the late 1980s, along the
> ferry across the Mandovi. The ferry, after the Mandovi bridge collapsed in
> 1986/7, was a great leveller. Since that was the only way to cross the
> ferry, everyone had to take the ferry.
>
> But Germana was a down-to-earth lady, literally, walking her way out of the
> ferry and beyond. (I don't know if they stayed at Betim then.) What struck
> me was that she always wore a smile on her face, was obviously happy to be
> around in Goa, and from her demeanour and accent was a returned expat.
> Since
> she was very friendly, we got talking once, though after a quarter century
> I
> don't remember the context.
>
> It was only later that I got to know Dan, her Canadian husband, and their
> story. Meeting Dan was comical too, as I recall distinctly the email he
> sent
> me. It said that he appreciated my messages, and all that, but the "Dan" I
> was trying to contact was not him!
>
> Later on, I learnt that Dan was an avid reader, deeply interested in the
> written word, and even in the field of Goan writing! People like him only
> remind me what a melting pot Goa has been, is and can be -- and how we all
> gain from that.
>
> Germana was the cousin of the talented writer who died early, Violet
> Dias-Lannoy. Her work is part of Peter Nazareth's anthology. From the
> stories Dan has to narrate [http://www.megavideo.com/?v=FR9ENQ5P] I'm
> suspect Germana lived a full life, happy to be back where she belonged, and
> we are grateful to her for bringing to Goa such a interesting son-in-law
> (apart from the other achievements in her life, which I don't know of
> first-hand). FN
>
> Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
>
> On 19 March 2011 10:33, Dan Driscoll  wrote:
>
> >
> > 'Germana',
> >
> > Mumbai/Canada/Betim-Goa
> >
> > Wife of Daniel Driscoll;
> >
> > Departed peacefully, at Mandovi Clinic (Porvorim)
> >
> > on 18-3-2011 at 10:00 P.M.
> >
> > Cremated at Ste Inez, on 19-3-2011.
> >
> > Grateful Appreciation to Fr. Delio Mendonca, S.J., and Staff of Mandovi
> > Clinic.
> >
> > No Condolence Visits; Just a Thought and a Prayer.
>

Re: [Goanet] Obituary.. .Germana Driscoll

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Thanks, Fred. Someday soon when you have an hour or two we might try an
experiment with your webcam & UTube. I have just finished big editing job on
a biographical book about 'Father Amalor', champion of 'Inculturation' in
India. I wrote a twelve-page piece for the book. Might be interesting for me
to read that on camera and let you upload it. Would be good contribution to
the Anjali Ashram work on behalf of Xian Inculturation with the other
religious cultures in India---by now too long in the coming. Just specify
time and place---could be done in my Flat itself.

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Frederick Noronha <
fredericknoro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nice thought, Dan! Some of our villagers in Saligao (Gerard Delaney
> and others) were promoting the idea of eco-friendly coffins (made of
> bamboo and cloth, rather than costly wood). FN
>
> Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
>
>  On 19 March 2011 20:02, DAN DRISCOLL  wrote:
> > Thank you, Fred, for your kind words about Germana. We had beautiful
> > cremation service for her today; Fr. Delio said the prayers, and she was
> > carried on bamboo litter with banana leaf cushioning constructed by
> > neighbors in the yard. She always insisted that she was to be carried on
> a
> > litter, and not 'put in a box'---and she has gotten her wish.
>

[Goanet] Condolence Messages. . .

[Dan Driscoll]

Many have sent me very kind notes, on occasion of my wife Germana's passing. A 
reply sent to a Canadian friend gives some idea of what took place---with the 
very efficient participation of the Goan Rites people here. I copy that note, 
for sharing with you: 

AN E-REPLY-NOTE, TO A CANADIAN FRIEND; SHARED WITH YOU:

So nice to hear from you, and fond greeting to you and all Family. Yes, Germana 
really was 'a good ole girl'. She always told me that when she passed she did 
not want to be 'put in a box', but to be laid to rest in 'the way the Hindus do 
it'. 

So in the morning my kindly Hindu neighbor got the boys together, and by noon 
there was ready a beautiful 'pallet', made of fresh cut bamboo and cushioned 
with banana leaves; she was carried on this, wrapped in a white linen 'winding 
sheet' to the outdoor cremation ground; it was just at the sunset hour; this 
same Hindu neighbor showed me how to balance  the clay water-pot on my 
shoulder, circle three times, and then smash it on the ground---before handing 
me the flaming torch to light the pyre. 

A Jesuit priest friend of ours, who had in fact brought her 'sacrament of the 
sick' just a few days before, said the final prayers; evening birds could be 
heard, calling from those gorgeous 'banyon trees' (which Indians hold as 
sacred) towering above us.

 Of course the Colonial system made of her a European Christian, but I'd say 
that she (like a lot of other Goans/Indians) have always remained Hindu---'at 
the deep heart's core'. 

A few days from now her sister will be here from Mumbai, and we will immerse 
the urn and its precious contents in the waters of the River Mandovi---which 
empties into the Arabian Sea---and finally merges with the Indian Ocean.

Dan Driscoll.

Re: [Goanet] Obituary.. .Germana Driscoll

[DAN DRISCOLL]

We've shaken hands after one of your directorial appearances at Immaculate
Conception Church. I have read your book. Germana was friendly with several
members of the Pinto do Rosario family and of the De Sa family in Siolim
(Esther; Isaura; Adelisa; Thelma (Pinto). She regarded Esther as a 'second
mother'. Thank you for your thoughtful message. I attache a note written to
friend in Canada, which can probably do for us all.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:40 AM, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro  wrote:

> Dear Dan,
>  I don't believe we've met, and I live very far away, but I know of the
> work
> you are doing in Goa and my heart goes out to you in your bereavement. I
> have
> said a prayer for Germana. May she rest in Paradise.
>  Warm regards,
>  Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Dan Driscoll 
> To: Goanet Post 
> Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 1:03:47 AM
> Subject: [Goanet] Obituary.. .Germana Driscoll
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 'Germana',
>
> Mumbai/Canada/Betim-Goa
>
> Wife of Daniel Driscoll;
>
> Departed peacefully, at Mandovi Clinic (Porvorim)
>
> on 18-3-2011 at 10:00 P.M.
>
> Cremated at Ste Inez, on 19-3-2011.
>
> Grateful Appreciation to Fr. Delio Mendonca, S.J., and Staff of Mandovi
> Clinic.
>
> No Condolence Visits; Just a Thought and a Prayer.
>

[Goanet] King's Speech. . . .

[Dan Driscoll]

I was ten years old when I heard the radio broadcast, in our family kitchen 
in Maritime (Eastern) Canada. The film is a knockout, thought in those days 
we knew little about that; the abdication speech got a lot more attention.


I have an attendant memory trace that might be of interest, especially to 
those concerned with child rearing and family counselling. Between the radio 
broadcasts and my big brother who would relate to me his highly imaginative 
scenarios about enemy soldiers about to parachute into our cow pastures and 
grain fields, I developed what I suppose was some sort of a 'fear neurosis' 
so severe that it began to keep me lying abed in my room during daylight 
hours.


After a few days my father began to make enquiries, and learned from dear 
big brother that he had been telling me some stories that could have 
frightened me. Dad then came up and sat on my bed for a little chat. He 
assurred me that we were a very long distance from what was going on across 
the Atlantic, and that any liklihood of enemy troops landing on our little 
community was really just my big brother's fertile imagination. Within the 
hour I had recovered my usual boyish energy running about outdoors.


We tend to underestimate the minds and emotional profiles of our children. 
Take care about what is spoken in their presence---and don't make too much 
of catastrophic horizons. The amount of 'horror' going down on current media 
is almost bound to be hurtful, and some of those creating it should perhaps 
be already in jail for just another configuration of 'child abuse'. 

Re: [Goanet] Indian Mother awesome joke

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Not bad. I have a 'clerical version' of that story. A closely observant
Parish Priest had the feeling that his curate was cutting corners in recital
of 'The Divine Office', considered a serious offence, and binding under
'pain of mortal sin'. Upon leaving for vacation he told the curate to do a
refurbishing job on the main altar tabernacle, and give him a report.

Upon PP's return, question soon arose about the work on tabernacle. Young
man sez, "Father, I wanted to get it done, but hunted everywhere for the
tabernacle key and it was not to be found anywhere".

P.P.: "Well, that's strange"; I left it where I was sure you should find
it---IN YOUR BREVIARY".

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Gina Fernandes wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mom comes to visit her son Kumar for dinner.. .. who lives with a girl
> roommate Sunita. During the course of the meal, his mother couldn't help
> but
> notice how pretty Kumar's roommate was. She had long been suspicious of a
> relationship between the two, and this had only made her more curious.
>
> Over the course of the evening, while watching the two interact, she
> started
> to wonder if there was more between Kumar and his roommate than met the
> eye.
> Reading his mom's thoughts, Kumar volunteered, "I know what you must be
> thinking, but I assure you, Sunita and I are just roommates."
>
> About a week later, Sunita came to Kumar saying, "Ever since your mother
> came to dinner, I've been unable to find the silver plate. You don't
> suppose
> she took it, do you?" Kumar said, "Well, I doubt it, but I'll email her,
> just to be sure."
> *So he sat down and wrote :  *
>
> Dear Mother:
> I'm not saying that you 'did' take the silver plate from my house, I'm not
> saying that you 'did not' take the silver plate.. But the fact remains that
> it has been missing ever since you were here for dinner.
> Love, Kumar
>
>
> *Several days later, Kumar received an email from his Mother which read :
> Dear Son:
> I'm not saying that you 'do' sleep with Sunita, and I'm not saying that you
> 'do not' sleep with Sunita. But the fact remains that if she was sleeping
> in
> her OWN bed, she would have found the silver plate by now under
> thepillow...
> Love, Mom.
> *Lesson of the day:**
> *Don't Lie to Your Mother.. ..especially if she is Indian!* **
>
>
>
> 
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> If
> you have received this e-mail in error please notify the system manager at
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>
>
>

[Goanet] Doctor in the House?

[Dan Driscoll]

As some may know, I have just experienced the demise, and obsequies held, 
for my wife. We lived a long and eventful life together, so I'm not about to 
grieve in any negative fashion. One aspect of it all however prompts me to 
make a suggestion that might be open to discussion in our GoaNet Forum.


We were both quite cognizant of the fact that ageing process was implacably 
at work, and we felt that doctoring and hospitalization could be more of an 
irritant than anything else. For ten years or more we have had the same 
Doctor, with whom I have no reason to complain even at this stage.


However, on a Sunday morning, two weeks back, I became convinced that a 
doctor housecall was of urgent need, so I called our Doctor. No way could a 
house call be made on that day. Patient would have to be taken to one of two 
clinical venues; medical conference going on all day; etc, etc.


On bringing the matter up, as of today, with Doctor I showed some residual 
ill feeling, and he, in a voice quite as raised as was mine, he assured me 
that if he were to make a housecall in my vicinity he would be neglecting 
patients in his own area of responsability.


My point was not that he should neglect anyone, but that the medical 
fraternity should try to have two or three doctors on standby who could 
respond to an urgently stated need for housecall. He (no doubt rightly) 
points out that by calling 108 one could avail of an ambulance 
facility---which has a doctor in attendance. I was not aware of this; the 
108 protocol is of quite recent vintage; not everyone is well informed about 
it; I have seen references about it but would have thought that personnel 
staffing an ambulance would be paramedics rather than doctors. Perhaps if 
Doctor had given me this advice when I first phoned, in my panic, it might 
have helped calm me down.


In any case, it's over now; and I must apologize for having today ventilated 
my distress to the good Doctor himself, in his own chambers. I'm still left 
with the notion that (somewhat like 'Sunday Open Pharmacy') the public 
should be able to avail of a 'doctor housecall', without having to move a 
critically ill patient or resort to an ambulance service. Is that a 
feasability---or am I just being a bit 'old fashioned'? 

Re: [Goanet] Doctor in the House?

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Many thanks to all, for 'noticing'. I do not feel that we were unaware of
the fact that things are different here. We've been here now for 25 years,
and feel that in this context there's nothing self indulgent about having
cake and eating it too. We have a lot of great Goans in Canada, on blessed
Canadian Medicare. The few Canadians who are settled in Goa need make no
apologies on that score.

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:17 AM, J. Colaco < jc>  wrote:

> Dan Driscoll wrote
>
> 1: For ten years or more we have had the same Doctor...
>
> 2: However, on a Sunday morning, two weeks back, I became convinced
> that a doctor housecall was of urgent need, so I called our Doctor.
>
> 3: No way could a house call be made on that day. Patient would have
> to be taken to one of two clinical venues; medical conference going on
> all day; etc, etc.
>
> 4: On bringing the matter up, as of today, with Doctor I showed some
> residual ill feeling, and he, in a voice quite as raised as was mine,
> he assured me that if he were to make a housecall in my vicinity he
> would be neglecting patients in his own area of responsability.
>
> 5: My point was not that he should neglect anyone, but that the
> medical fraternity should try to have two or three doctors on standby
> who could respond to an urgently stated need for housecall.
>
> 6: He (no doubt rightly) points out that by calling 108 one could
> avail of an ambulance facility---which has a doctor in attendance. I
> was not aware of this; the 108 protocol is of quite recent vintage;
> not everyone is well informed about it;
>
> 7: I have seen references about it but would have thought that
> personnel staffing an ambulance would be paramedics rather than
> doctors.
>
> 8: Perhaps if Doctor had given me this advice when I first phoned, in
> my panic, it might have helped calm me down.
>
>
>
> Dear Dan,
>
> I have read Roland's response to you. It is, possibly, a practical or
> explanatory way of looking at issues. I do not agree with that
> approach. Accordingly, I will attempt to put my two cents worth from
> an ethical and legal-medical viewpoint.
>
> Allow me to preface my remarks by stating that ANY society which does
> not make provisions for the appropriate care of its young, disabled,
> disadvantaged and its elderly is a heartless and pointless society.
> You can take all the five-star hotels and razzmatazz and throw it in
> the River Sal along with all the other junk that it floating there. It
> is not worth the outdated escudo which might be hiding in the attic.
>
> Allow me, however, to return to the points from your post which I have
> excerpted above. My comments are in the following micro-mini-segments:
>
> [A]: Granted that no human being (doctors included) can be 'available'
> 24/7 for the sake of his/her patients; The important point here is
> that the Doctor (Dr) was your doctor for 10+ years. No question that
> there was an established PHYSICIAN-PATIENT RELATIONSHIP.
>
> [B]: It is quite possible that the Dr. may not have been able to
> render much more than comfort and advice in a non-hospital situation.
> The question is whether there was an ABANDONMENT of the patient by the
> Dr.; I submit that there was.
>
> [C] A patient/individual CANNOT reasonably expect that a group of
> doctors will make "cover arrangements" amongst each other. However, it
> is, I submit, the legal-medical obligation of the doctor to make
> Alternative Arrangements for his patients when he his likely to be
> busy with necessary events like "conferences, vacations etc'. This
> Arrangement has to be made known to the patient - at least at the time
> the patient contacts the Dr.
>
> [D] The explanation given to you by the Dr. in #4 is nonsense.
>
> [E] The advice re Emergency Ambulance too was negligent. IF, another
> Dr (say from 108) was expected to take over care, it was the duty of
> your Dr. to HAND OVER CARE of the patient to the next doctor...even by
> way of phone.
>
> These principles are universal, not just in Canada, US or UK etc. Just
> because they may not be followed in Goa, at this point and time, does
> not mean  they should not be aired out in the open and 'worked
> on'...unless, in our quest for whatever, we have lost our
> humanity.
>
> jc
> ps: All CAPS are terms which can be researched.
>

Re: [Goanet] Was Mahatma Gandhi bisexual ?

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Just wondering if given the emerging attitudes of personal laissez-faire and
tolerance, it really makes any difference what the Mahatma's sexual
preferences were.

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:52 AM, George Pinto wrote:

> > Subject: Was Mahatma Gandhi bisexual?
>
> The short answer is NO
> The long  answer is NO
> Hope that helps.
>
> Now get back to real-world, current issues/problems.
>
> George
>
>

[Goanet] CONCERT OF SACRED MUSIC. . . .

[Dan Driscoll]

. . .presented by Santa Cecilia Choir of the Patriarchal Seminary of Rachol 
on Monday, 11th April 20ll at the Basilica of Bom Jesus, Old Goa; featuring 
a Vivaldi Gloria and beautiful Konkani and locally composed works by a hugh 
pholyphonic choral ensemble and orchestra of strings and winds, was a 
triumph which can bring the highest approval rating for the whole State.


If at all possible a combination of State Government leave approvals and 
events- management expertise should put this into the best venue available 
in Delhi, to ensure an audience profile of political and cultural elite. It 
would do more for the State than many editions of bikini studded tourism 
brochures. 

[Goanet] Rudolph Kammermeir's Concert Hour. . . .

[Dan Driscoll]

Yesterday evening I went down to Calangute for Herr Rudolph's piano recital, 
which as those who may know him is played on his own 'baby grand' in a domed 
gallery space that seems purpose-built for music acoustics. It was an 
impressive performance, by one who is obviously an accomplished musician.


I live within two minutes walk of the site where the 'cruise liner' Swastik 
does its twice-nightly circuit around the Mandovi/Zuari Estuary. From five 
o'clock onward can be seen minibuses from hotels on the northeren beaches 
side clogging the already congested Betim jetty to disgorge passengers for 
the Swastik.


I ask myself whether one should contemplate the same kind of logistical 
exercise for bringing European visitors to Calangute's Art Chamber for 
'Maestro Rudolph's Concert Hour', which could be held on almost a daily 
basis if Mr. Rudy could handle that.


He has room there for at least a hundred persons. What a treat for European 
visitors in return for a couple of Eruos to visit with a real (LIVE) 
classical pianist doing Chopin Nocturnes---'and more'. Then back for the 
fine Goan-Cuisine Dinner in their Hotel Dining Room! I could hardly get any 
better than that.


We let our visitors root among the husks, while pearls are kept hidden and 
unheralded. 

Re: [Goanet] Konkani Proverbs (3)

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Will there be a chance to see English translations of these? Two English
versions of Tamil proverbs: "He who has killed a hundred men, is fit to be a
Doctor"; "The tall palm tree gives no shade".

2010/10/15 Ivo 

> Konkani Proverbs (3)
> Apunn tsor zalyar, bayletso bhavuy tsor
>
> Hanv boro zalyar, ganv boro; hanv tsor zalyar, ganv tsor
>
> Nidlo ani melo munis sarko
>
> Hata voylem tantim ani udharachi kombi
>
> Rup anjyachem, kornnyo devtsarachyo
>
> Yetolo devchtsar, kollotlo sounsar
>
> Pharank devtsar legun bhiyeta
>
> Dudd asa thoym devtsar asa
>
> Munnko devtsar tujer bosla
>
> Kazulo uzo dista mhullyar kamak yeta?
>
> Zhogzhogta iylrym bhsngst noy
>
> Erondd vaddhlyar patthi zata?
>
> Dali vhoddi, saguvat thoddi
>
> Vhodd ghor, pokol vanso
>
> Bhorpyache lag zuzak upkaro nant
>
> Kupache fator godd zalyar, kole sanddtole?
>
> Ghonkta tem sunnem tsabo na, ani zhankta to monis vaytt korunk pavo na
>
> Englishman bolsant xenn
> Uddta to buddta
>

Re: [Goanet] VIDEO: "Most of us are Diaspora, one way or another..."

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Thanks to Ms. Selma for those kind words. Reading her book cover to cover as
well, aloud to my wife Germana.

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Carvalho  wrote:

> I am so humbled by Dan Driscoll's kind words. I hope Dan Driscoll's stay in
> Goa
> is a long one and he has many more readings with that wonderful orators
> voice he
> carries with a Grecian grace.
>
> Infact I am so humbled by everyone's kindness. I am amazed at how our
> world-wide
> community reached out from Goa, to the Gulf to Canada to help.  It was the
> Goans
> in Goa that championed a book about the Diaspora the most which goes to
> show,
> you can travel as far as the sea will take you but Goa will be waiting to
> envelop you in its warmth when you return.
>
> I think the founding of Goa, 1556 will be a pivotal point in our history
> when we
> look back, just as the arrival of the printing press had been in 1556. It
> has given Goan authors a voice and a platform. Goa needs the quiet
> revolutions
> of the mind just as it needs those of the spirit and the body.
>
>
>
> Best,
> Selma
>
>
>
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[Goanet] Mirror stick-note. . .

[Dan Driscoll]

I find in Ms. Carvalho's fine book short passages that can serve as an aid 
(upgrade) to our traditional morning prayer and/or meditation. On page 148, 
after her account of that accomplished contemporary Goan Victor Rangel 
Ribeiro (seen recently weilding the baton for a local String Orchestra 
Concert), she adds these lines:


"At the core of all good art is the desire to tell a story that speaks of a 
fundamental truth and gently nudges our inner moral compass towards 
compassion and empathy. It is the desire to redeem the disenfranchised and 
the disillusioned. A society bankrupt of its artistic heritage is a society 
bereft of imagination, values, foresight, morality and ultimately its soul. 
Goa at least will never be bankrupt---for its artistic sons of the soil, 
whether in Goa or in the Diaspora, refuse to abandon her." (Carvalho, Selma, 
Into the Diaspora Wilderness, Goa 1556/Broadway Publishing House, Goa, 
2010).



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Re: [Goanet] The Third Thursday Goa Book Club... an invite

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Great. Will surely try to be part of it. My *'bullets'* are meant for
discursive & deliberative process; moving ahead with the idea is best option
for now.

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Frederick Noronha wrote:

> The Third Thursday GOA BOOK CLUB : AN INTRODUCTION
> 
>
>  TTT Goa Book Club seeks to promote the reading of
>  Goa-related books (books by Goan authors, books on
>  Goa, and books in any way connected with Goa). It
>  is an initiative of Goa,1556 and is hosted by
>  Broadway Book Centre, Goa's largest bookshop
>  located on 18th June Road in Panjim.
>
> It will meet on the Third Thursday of each month (unless
> otherwise notified). Besides real-world meetings, it will
> also encourage interaction via cyberspace -- among those
> interested in the subject of books related to Goa.
>
> Meetings will begin at 5 pm sharp on the Third Thursday of
> each month at Broadway Book Centre, Panjim. Closing time will
> depend on the convenience and interest of members present.
>
> Rules: The club is open to all. To join, sign up at the
> moderated online mailing list at
> http://groups.google.com/group/goa-book-club
>
> Online discussions related to Goa-books (in any language)
> will be encouraged. Off-topic posts will be disallowed.
>
> To attend a meeting -- which will be announced in advance via
> the above network online -- please confirm you participation
> via SMSing (at least 24 hours in advance). Send SMS to Leroy
> Veloso or Frederick Noronha. For mobile communications, SMS
> is preferred, as the phone could be out of range or
> temporarily switched off.
>
> You can also email goa1...@gmail.com with a cc to
> leroymar...@yahoo.com with Goa Book Club in the subjectline.
>
> Participation at each meeting will be open to the first 20
> who confirm their attendance, unless otherwise decided by the
> coordinators. The limit on numbers is being planned to
> encourage better participation.
>
> Tea and samosas will be served by the hosts.
>
> There is no charge for attending. However, there is a
> non-cash 'fee' levied on every attending member. This is to
> (i) bring along one Goa book, new or old, which you have read
> (ii) describe informally during the meeting your experience
> of reading it -- what you liked about it and what you didn't
> -- in 3-5 minutes.. feel free to focus on other relevant
> issues, including related books in this genre and how these
> compare (iii) pass around the book (at the meeting) for
> others to see and immediately return, and explain where it
> might be available for those interested.
>
> Every participant is a speaker at this event, so come
> prepared to speak briefly (and informally). Please stick to
> the maximum time-limit of five minutes.
>
>  Occasionally, the coordinators may invite speakers
>  to address the group on special topics related to
>  Goa books -- preferably in short 15- or 30-minute
>  sessions. Every attempt will be made to keep
>  all meetings participative.
>
> Any locally-used (or other) language can be used in the
> discussions. If anyone has difficulties in understanding, we
> may request your help, or that of someone suitable, to
> translate. Books discussed could include titles published in
> English, Konkani, Marathi, Portuguese, Hindi or any of the
> languages in which Goa is written about.
>
> To promote awareness about, and visibility of, Goa books, the
> Third Thursday Club encourages members to exchange, swap or
> sell extra copies of their Goa books with one another.
> Members however agree that is not part of formal club
> activities; and each one is responsible for their own deals.
> Lists of Goa books available for swapping or sale may also be
> shared online via the mailing list.
>
>  Sponsors (publishers, bookshops, authors, and
>  others) willing to gift copies of Goa books as
>  prizes (to be distributed during the meetings) are
>  welcome to donate the same. Author-signed copies
>  are specially welcome. Co-ordinators will organise
>  contests at each meeting.
>
> Booksellers, publishers or authors offering special discounts
> to members of the Third Thursday Club are welcome to announce
> their deals on our list, or pass it on for distribution.
>
>  Members are requested to suggest suitable
>  activities for the club, including talks by writers
>  or others passing through Goa, or located here.
>
> The first meeting will be on November 18, 2010 at 5 pm. All
> present before starting time will be entitled to take part in
> a free raffle, the prize of which will be a copy of a book
> that is of direct interest to us in Goa. Subject to
> confirmation, the book on offer will be:
>
>  The Taste of Conquest: The Rise and Fall of the
>  Three Great Cities of Spice. Michael Krondl Price
>  o

[Goanet] Whooooo, are Youuuuu?

[Dan Driscoll]

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---
GoaNetters' get-together recently held at the Piedade Complex in Panjim was 
a convivial exchange under the genial chairmanship of Fred Noronha, with his 
little son's sleepy head resting on his knee.


Like much of what is going down these days in the IT context, the agenda was 
not predetermined; it was only towards the end when one of the participants 
made a point which was lingering in the back of my mind without assuming 
clear enough definition to permit of verbal expression. Point made, was that 
while we were enjoying a kind of salad mix-of individual musings and 
reminisce, we were not tuning onto a clear frequency concerning the GoaNet 
character itself---what its merits and potentialities are; what may be the 
excesses or indulgences that could plague this niche of social networking; 
how, as a cyberspace dialoging faction, we can make the most of this amazing 
communications tool---only recently come into our ken.


We should perhaps get down to more focused discussion concerning this. For 
my own part, I'm not even sure if I am a 'GoaNetter'. I'm one of those who 
may be thought by some to be 'computer literate', but in actual fact cannot 
aspire to much more than doing a clean page in Microsoft Word and sending 
and receiving emails. In fact, when Fred and his early-bird Associates were 
trying to get the GoaNet Egg to hatch I was telling Fred to go 
away---shoo-fly, don't bother me.


When we get together we may still be in the space of evening sundowner chat, 
sorting out our varied identities---each of us (like Alice with Mock Turtle 
trying to address the question, without benefit of the smoke rings) Who 
are You. The discussion did not get beyond the 'personal introductions' 
stage.


But this is not to complain; it is a beginning---towards growth within a new 
'environmental milieu' perhaps roughly analogous to the evolutionary epoch 
when sea creatures were challenged to adapt to functioning on land. Maybe in 
another year we should treat ourselves to a dutch-treat dinner with a guest 
speaker---one of the original nerd-founders of GoaNet perhaps, who can bring 
us one step further in our own comprehension of what we are actually doing 
and how we can go about doing it more efficiently and effectively.


I finally found myself registering with GoaNet, even if I'm not even a Goan. 
The reasons are a little unique and 'complicad'---but are perhaps 
essentially grounded in an ego stimulus of 'the educated' to see oneself in 
print.


Then I found myself becoming a little leery of posting; I sensed a bit of 
bitchiness about 'qualifications'; who is so-and-so, to be saying 
such-and-such? Where are the 'proofs'?  What 'Degrees' does he have"? Such 
an anxiety about getting the history precisely right. I am not one of those 
to maintain that 'History is Bunk', but would suggest that some history, and 
approaches to history, CAN BE BUNK; Let's be a little less concerned about 
the past, and more concentrated on the future. And can there be less 
preoccupation with 'how bad things are'? Things are bad, here and just about 
everywhere on Planet Earth these days; but whether they get better or worse 
most likely depends on us---and whether we can adapt to a new Forum, for an 
Athenaeum which now begins to slip the bonds of space and time.

[Goanet] from Dan Driscoll. . . . .for Fredrick Noronha,

[DAN DRISCOLL]

 Trying to get you on your gmail address, but not working. Hope you might
rc'v this:

That was a fine Book Launch Event at Clube V de G last week. I went
especially on lookout for Peter Nazareth's book, and found it.

In it there is the Violet Dias Lannoy *Story Roses on the Grass*, which I am
now reading out to wife Germana. Violet was first Cousin to Germana, and to
Bemvinda (Dias) Da Cruz. We are stunned by the brilliance of the African
story---how she could so subtly portray that African scenario.

I think I have you to thank for the fact that I was able to click up
biographical pieces about Violet (by Bemvinda; Lannoy, and Peter Nazareth).

As you may recall, I did a couple of public readings over past months---from
Lambert's book, and Margaret Atwoods 'Scrooge' at XCHR. I have no talent for
writing, but read rather well having taught Eng. Lit. in Canada for a decade
or so. I'm thinking of doing this Violet story at Black Box, sometime within
the next couple of months. If you have any suggestons about it, let me know.
I'd get Bomfilio Da Cruz to say a few words, but if you could be around I'd
have you say something about your own work. My only small anxiety about you
these days is that you could be working too hard. Take care of yourself.

[Goanet] Folklore Festival @ Kala Open-air, on 20th. . . .

[Dan Driscoll]

I attended this and was disappointed at the vast array of empty seats. The 
Compere made good points about importance, yea necessity, of continuing with 
the work---but I would as a teacher (of the old school) venture to add another 
comment: It is becoming obvious that as a public entertainment medium these 
presentations are 'in danger of extinction'. Is it not time for Depts of 
Culture and Education to collaborate in a program which makes this category a 
part of the school curriculum? Youngsters at the secondary level might be given 
transport to attend; attendance taken; those present earn an extra ration of 
grade-point---and those absent do not. It may also become of priority to record 
for permanent record those presentations for Archival Storage, without stinting 
on the technical quality level.

Re: [Goanet] Rival in feni's backyard - an Indian tequila

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Yes; the chashew apple should resonate with what I used to enjoy very much,
from Canadian Liquor Commission---'Plum Brandy', known in the Slavic regions
of Europe as 'Slivovitch'; maybe spelled with a 'z'.

I should think that the same kind of vingtage should derive from Jackfruit.
A lot of good Industrial Applications should be there. Where get the
consultaion expertise? I should think that 'vinteners' would consider it
alien territory.

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:40 PM, armstrong augusto vaz <
armstrong...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Rival in feni's backyard - an Indian tequila
> By Mayabhushan Nagvenkar (14:42)
> Panaji, May 1 (IANS) Feni, Goa's own homebred liquor, is in for some
> competition in its own backyard. A tequila, brewed in Andhra Pradesh
> and bottled and packaged here, could soon spar with this state's best
> known spirit.
>
> India's first indigenously-made tequila is marketed under the brand
> Desmondji, which was launched recently and is on display at the
> four-day Konkan fruit festival dedicated to the fruits of the tropical
> strip of land stretching from Maharashtra to Goa.
>
> Manufactured by the company Agave India, Desmondji is manufactured
> from the blue agave, a cactus like plant found on the Deccan plateau
> in Andhra Pradesh, similar to the agave plant found in the Mexico
> region, where the drink originally hails from.
>
> "I was doing some research on tequila and agave when I came across a
> photograph of the blue agave plant in Andhra Pradesh. The latitudinal
> lines in Mexico where the plant grows passes over a certain region in
> Andhra Pradesh, where I first set out to hunt down the agave," said
> Desmond Nazareth, from whose name the tequila draws its name.
>
> He is the director of Agave India, which is the holding company for
> the brand Desmondji.
>
> He said naming the agave brew and other range of alcoholic cocktail
> blends Desmondji was his obeisance to an ancient custom, where the
> liquor used to be named after the person who brewed it.
>
> Tequila, however, being a proprietary word associated with Mexico and
> its exclusive regional processes, Desmond prefers to call his brew
> 'agave' to avoid proprietary conflict.
>
> "I want to always maintain an environmentally and socially conscious
> core value set, while delivering to the consumer the key superior
> ingredients of globally famous cocktails by innovating with Indian raw
> material," he said.
>
> Marketed under a broader brand Agave India, the production facilities
> designed for zero discharge, the project will also engender rural
> employment and wasteland cultivation, according to the former techie,
> who is an Indian Institute of Technology-Madras alumnus.
>
> Agave India has a manufacturing plant in Chittoor in Andhra Pradesh,
> while the tequila and other brews are bottled and packaged in a
> facility located in Goa.
>
> Miguel Braganza, secretary of the Botanical Society of Goa (BSG),
> which is organising the Konkan Fruit Festival, said the tequila would
> only add to Goa's unique bouquet of exclusive and indigenously
> prepared alcohols.
>
> "We will also be serving locally made urrak (single distilled
> fermented cashew juice) at the festival because it is has therapeutic
> effects. The tequila will also add to the value tremendously," he
> said.
>
> "The unusual Konkan Fruit Fest has in the past attracted large numbers
> of the general public, students, horticulturists and academics and has
> been successful not only in creating widespread interest in our common
> food heritage but also in providing opportunities to growers to
> showcase and market their produce in a sustainable and affordable
> manner," he said.
>

[Goanet] Goa Museum of Christian Art . . .

[Dan Driscoll]

Many will be aware that this fairly recent facility is housed in Mater Dei 
Convent, Old Goa. Today's Herald (Upcoming Events Column) has the 
interesting invitation to 'celebrate Collectors Day', on Sunday 15 th Inst. 
One can 'register' by emailing museumofchristianart (AT) gmail.com.


I'm not a 'collector', but this raises some interesting associations, and I 
rather think that I will be there for this. When my late wife brought me to 
Goa from Canada, about forty years ago, her first cousin in Caranzalem 
greeted her by waving a key. This is key to your Mummy's room in the old 
'Caranzalem House'. Open it and take what you want from there.


Among the 'tea cozies', paintings on glass, silverfish laden notebooks and 
the rest, were three small objects that look to be for all practical 
purposes 'indestructible'---and quite possibly dating back three, four, or 
five Generations. There are two bronze, palm-sized figures, one of a female 
cattle (highly decorated) and one of a standing 'god-figure', which my 
genial Hindu neighbor tells me 'looks Buddhist'. Then there is an ivory-tusk 
carving, of a beautiful symbolism that I seem to recall seeing somewhere, 
sometime, in some book---but cannot recall where or when. It is of a figure 
disgorging a steady stream of 'water' into a fountain-bowl. Beneath this in 
slumber-like repose is a youthful robed figure, which to my mind may be a 
symbol of the as yet fully emerged human consciousness. Will be interested 
if some others there can further enlighten me.


Not 'Christian Art' I'll grant, but probably even more spiritually rich. One 
reads speculations of Historians, about home altars keeping small 'idols' 
discretely out of the line of vision---in days when convert 'back-sliders' 
were under the inquisitorial scanner. How many of the old houses may have 
similar icons resting in the dusty attics---and what to do about them. I'd 
probably try 'carbon dating' these, but probably could not afford it. 

[Goanet] Fw: Goa Museum of Christian Art . . .

[Dan Driscoll]

Sorry, my mistake. It is SANTA MONICA CONVENT, in Old Goa.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Driscoll" 

To: "Goanet Post" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 10:23 PM
Subject: Goa Museum of Christian Art . . .


Many will be aware that this fairly recent facility is housed in Mater Dei 
Convent, Old Goa. Today's Herald (Upcoming Events Column) has the 
interesting invitation to 'celebrate Collectors Day', on Sunday 15 th 
Inst. One can 'register' by emailing museumofchristianart (AT) gmail.com.


I'm not a 'collector', but this raises some interesting associations, and 
I rather think that I will be there for this. When my late wife brought me 
to Goa from Canada, about forty years ago, her first cousin in Caranzalem 
greeted her by waving a key. This is key to your Mummy's room in the old 
'Caranzalem House'. Open it and take what you want from there.


Among the 'tea cozies', paintings on glass, silverfish laden notebooks and 
the rest, were three small objects that look to be for all practical 
purposes 'indestructible'---and quite possibly dating back three, four, or 
five Generations. There are two bronze, palm-sized figures, one of a 
female cattle (highly decorated) and one of a standing 'god-figure', which 
my genial Hindu neighbor tells me 'looks Buddhist'. Then there is an 
ivory-tusk carving, of a beautiful symbolism that I seem to recall seeing 
somewhere, sometime, in some book---but cannot recall where or when. It is 
of a figure disgorging a steady stream of 'water' into a fountain-bowl. 
Beneath this in slumber-like repose is a youthful robed figure, which to 
my mind may be a symbol of the as yet fully emerged human consciousness. 
Will be interested if some others there can further enlighten me.


Not 'Christian Art' I'll grant, but probably even more spiritually rich. 
One reads speculations of Historians, about home altars keeping small 
'idols' discretely out of the line of vision---in days when convert 
'back-sliders' were under the inquisitorial scanner. How many of the old 
houses may have similar icons resting in the dusty attics---and what to do 
about them. I'd probably try 'carbon dating' these, but probably could not 
afford it. 

[Goanet] Dawkins, trying to Kick out another of my Props. . .

[Dan Driscoll]

I have for long given credit for my continued existence, as one of the 'Xian 
Faithful', to the Jesuit philosopher/scientist Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, 
whom I discovered in 1962, about five years after his works began to be 
published.


When a friend now lends me his copy of Dawkins' THE GOD DELUSION, (as is my 
habitual impulse)I check its Index---for 'Teilhard' ;


'Dear Dawkins the KillJoy' is predictably there---with his quote from Peter 
Medawar's vicious review of THE PHENOMENON OF MAN: "Its author can be 
excused of dishonesty only on the grounds that before deceiving others he 
has taken great pains to deceive himself".


Well, Dawkins would have to go further afield than that to convince me that 
Tielhard  was taking pains to 'deceive himself'---or anyone else, including 
me.


For the nonce will seek relief in a cute story told to me a long time ago 
about 'philosophical skepticism'. Two eminent scholars are going through the 
Oxford English countryside on the train. One points to a large flock of 
newly shorn sheep, grazing contentedly in their pasture. One gestures 
towards the window: "Isn't it beautiful; just shorn, and no doubt so 
serenely happy there"!


"Y-e-e-s", replies his Skeptic Colleague; "Just shorn---ON ONE SIDE AT 
LEAST". 

Re: [Goanet] RAHUL GANDHI'S IMMATURE STATEMENT

[DAN DRISCOLL]

Would'nt take it too seriously, myself. Really just 'a manner of speaking',
and the young man should be able to speak off the cuff once in a while, even
in public. As for the Italian reference---picky, picky.

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Aires Rodrigues
wrote:

> Rahul Gandhi's statement that he is ashamed to be an Indian is an
> outburst of immaturity. Whatever the context, one cannot understand
> how an Indian can ever be ashamed of his Nation. Could it be for being
> half Italian that Rahul Gandhi's feeling Indian is only skin deep?  On
> one hand, we have a bunch of corrupt politicians and on the other,
> pampered products of dynasty politics, propped up by sycophants. It is
> time now for every Indian to feel ashamed of Rahul Gandhi and his
> statement.
>
> Aires Rodrigues
> T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat
> Ribandar - Goa - 403006
> Mobile: 9822684372
>

[Goanet] For young 'writer aspirants'---Story Idea:

[Dan Driscoll]

Excerpted from letter to my bro-in-law; great fan of Jean Auel 'Cave Bear 
Series'. I'm too old and creaky now to be a writer; I can just speculate 
about the possibilities:


Patrick:

The papers are full of 'Neanderthal' these days, and it seems related to the 
release of Jean Auel's new book. Evidently 'science' had been disputing 
certain of her assumptions about intermingling of Sapiens with Cro Magnon, 
etc. Now they find that their 'Carbon Dating' protocol has been wonkey, and 
that Ms. Auel's account of things in Europe is perhaps correct after all. 
They are finding that the Carbon 14 method was out by ten thousand years!


I suppose some people get het up about the scientific data indicating that 
2.5 % of genetic code for Sapiens (post Africa) is Neanderthal. Ha, Ha!! 
Serves Sapiens right, for having done "bad 'tings" with Neanderthal 
neighbors!!


Speaking of "bad 'tings", such goofy stuff is happening! This morning's news 
has it that Chief of IMF (International Monetary Fund) has been arrested at 
JFK Airport for sexual assault in a NYC Hotel for which the Room Rate is 
$3000 USD per day. He's the guy who is supposed to be fixing things 
(economically) for poor African & Asian food producers! He intends to plead 
not guilty.


The whole crazy episode suggests a possible Novel (fiction): This fellow is 
on his way to a Meeting in Paris to decide on approval of 'bail-out' for 
Portugal's current bankruptcy. Now, suppose someone got the idea that one of 
the surest ways to delay things would be to have the IMF Commander-in-Chief 
booked on a morals charge. They then bribe a little Portuguese 'housekeeping 
assistant' at the hotel, to go into the room, create a ruckus with this 
fellow (who is in the shower), so that the cops can arrest him within the 
hour, before his Flight for Paris can take off. The bribe would of course be 
enormous---enough to put all her kids through post-grad in top Universities.


I have a related (true) story: A young filmmaker whom I knew in NFB Montreal 
came back from a hotel sojourn in NYC and confided to me a weird story. On 
getting up one morning he found under his pillow an actual crowfoot. Not a 
plastic imitation; the real thing---which he actually took from his pocket 
and showed me! Naturally, he was quite shaken by it, but said nothing to 
anyone (except to 'old father figure' me) when he got back to Montreal. I 
was so slowwitted that I could conceive of no plausible explanation; but 
months or years later, I got to thinking about it again. NYC is full of 
young ladies from Caribbean Countries, desperate to get permanent residence 
status in the U.S. One of the surest ways for doing this would be to marry 
an American.  My speculation now is that one of these kids making up the 
beds in big hotel, went to her 'witchdoctor' with her desire for acquiring 
the right kind of man, having actually laid eyes on a guy who just might 
fill the bill. Dear Doctor John, sold her a crowfoot, with instruction to 
mumble an incantation or two, and put it under his pillow.


Mere speculation, of course; but then "Truth can be stranger than Fiction!" 

Re: [Goanet] For young 'writer aspirants'---Story Idea:

[DAN DRISCOLL]

YOU NOTICED! Many thanks.

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:36 AM, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:

> Dan Driscoll  wrote:
> > Speaking of "bad 'tings", such goofy stuff is happening! This morning's
> > news has it that Chief of IMF (International Monetary Fund) has been
> > arrested at JFK Airport for sexual assault in a NYC Hotel for which the
> > Room Rate is $3000 USD per day.
> >
> > The whole crazy episode suggests a possible Novel (fiction):
>
>
>
>
> Folks,
> The IMF Chief was (is?) also a leading socialist candidate for the French
> Presidential elections. Since he just got arrested for sexual assault, I
> think
> he is now more qualified to be the Prime Minister of  Italy.
>
>
>
>
> > I have a related (true) story: A young filmmaker whom I knew in
> > NFB Montreal came back from a hotel sojourn in NYC and confided
> > to me a weird story. On getting up one morning he found under his
> > pillow an actual crowfoot. Not a plastic imitation; the real
> thing---which
> > he actually took from his pocket and showed me!
>
>
>
>
> It's New York City.
> The standard tips are.
> 1) Tooth, under pillow; $5
> 2) Mint with a hole, on top of pillow: $20
> 3) Crowfoot and handcuffs, by the pillow area: $400
>
>
> Mervyn $1,650 Lobo
>

[Goanet] Hartman @ Gitanjali. . . .For Post or Goa Net Reader.

[Dan Driscoll]

Hartman @ Gitanjali

I promised Ms. Pereira, on the night of the Performance at Gitanjali Gallery 
(Panjim) last week, that I would let her have something by way of Feedback; 
since I sometimes do a page for Goa Net Reader, I'll try to 'kill two birds 
with one stone'---not a very pretty metaphor, but considering the overall 
context perhaps vaguely evocative.


No need to go into extensive detail about the quality of the performance. It 
was very good, and the choreography worked out by this dedicated cast can 
rise as another tribute to Martha Graham as she continues to take bows from 
the great dance platform in the sky .


The point that comes uppermost in my mind relates to what I would think of 
as a mainspring principle, suggested by the concept of 'COMMUNICATION 
THROUGH MEANS OTHER THAN LANGUAGE VERBALIZATION'.


For those who have not seen this presentation (which has been 'on the road' 
now for some months and currently getting close to its 100th performance, 
the story and ecological messaging inherent in it is all done without the 
expenditure of a single spoken 'word'.


Full exploitation of this principle within the context of 
awareness/education for 'sustainable development', will probably emerge as 
one of the major publishing priorities of the next several decades. The 
challenges of sustainable development, especially as presented by the mining 
industry, are global, and the global language-grid is still variegated and 
vast; well conceived and configured media messaging that can pole-vault over 
the 'language barrier' should not only bring to its creators huge returns 
(both vocational and material), but contribute enormously to the global need 
for a u-turn in resource management theory and practice; at every level from 
national and state governance to a personal eco-morality-consciousness 
inculcated in school systems---beginning at nursery level; and as adult 
education, never-ending.


Mining especially presents the veritable 'horns of dilemma'; while certain 
regions (Goa is one of them) are especially vulnerable, it is unreasonable 
to suggest that any National Authority must forfeit growth aspiration 
because the extraction and processing of mineral resources is particularly 
eco-hazardous.


Mining will continue, and its ill-effects can only be minimized by 
continuous and sincere effort to 'comprehend' the ground realities. While 
technological research and enlightened industrial management must play an 
ever more vital role, this will probably only be achieved through an 
infrastructure that is mainly attitudinal and personal in nature. In other 
words, the ultimate 'name of the game' is to be found in EDUCATION.


We may be getting back to Shakespearean times, when 'travelling players' 
unrolled their mats on the Village Green. Today's version will include such 
as the purpose-built van, with electrical generator; perhaps several 
applications of sound-and-light projection, whereby dynamic 'stage-effects' 
can be configured. The mustard-seed for this growth will be recognized in 
the kind of thing we saw when those young people showed us 
Hartman@Gitanjali.