[Goanet] Paying for politicians medical expenses abroad
First of all the powers that be in India are saying that India's medical facilities are too inferior when compared to foreign ones. Medical facilities in India are only for the Aam Admi . Goa Medical College is an inferior medical facility for the Ministers, and even the top notch hospitals in Mumbai cannot hold a torch to American hospitals. The Ministers are a privileged lot, entitled to world class health care at public expense. The locals be dammed.
[Goanet] MOPA airport
Eloquent as usual, and interesting perspective by VM on the under construction MOPA airport. However, I have heard it alleged that vested interests have acquired vast tracts of land at fire sale prices adjoining the future MOPA airport, and will make an outrageous profit when the airport is built. This is driving the State's push to build bridges, flyovers and extended lanes on highways to serve the future MOPA airport. In the current environment, dissenters are either bribed or bullied into silence. That is why few people living in Goa are willing to raise their voices in dissent. RIP Dabolim.
[Goanet] Harmony of religions
Dr. Eduardo Faleiro in his scholarly and well researched posting, states that disharmony among religions will lead to conflicts in India. I do not dispute this premise. However, in India as well as many other countries on this earth, I am convinced that conflicts will begin earlier because of the scarcity of Water and Global warming. Global warming is already causing crop failures which is of course related to scarcity of water, and failure of the monsoons. In india, competition for scarce river water is alreadycausing problems between Goa and Maharashtra and Karnataka, between Karnataka and Tamil Nadu, and between Haryana and Punjab. Similar conficts are brewing between China and India with China damming the source of the mighty Brahamaputra,\ and we have heard rumbles about the sharing of river waters between Pakistan and India. .As draught and famine strike parts of India there will be mass migration between the famine stricken areas and areas perceived to have sufficient water.It is nearly 4 months before the monsoons arrive in Goa, and already several areas of the state are facing water scarcity.This may be partially due to in-adequate water distribution systems. However the rampant concretization of Goa with mega construction projects and housing coming up everywhere is putting a severe strain on water resources, and causing the diminishing of ground water aquifers.
[Goanet] Re(GOANET) Old Goan Men with Internet facility
Now, now Louise, I take exception to your characterization of old Goan men with internet facility. I am old (78 years), have and have had Internet facility probably from its inception, AND I live in Goa. I enjoy the postings of Roalnd Francis, Marshall MendozaDr. Jose Colaco, Con Menezes and others who perhaps are not as geriatiic as I am. I may not agree with all the postings, and take many of them with a big grain of "mith", but I find them enlightening and informative. Wny are you so bitter about the postings on Goanet ? If you don't like them, you have the option of delete or bail out of this forum. I have been around almost from the inception of GoaNet and have seen various "characters" come and go, some out of their own choice, and some having been showed the door. The moderators do a fairly good job to ensure that the "crazies"do not take over this forum.Goanet has served the Goan diaspora well for over two decades, and hopefully for many more years o come.
[Goanet] Feni
A very inspiring story. Can we get more information ? First, about the Feniis it aged to take off some of the rought edges of just distilled liquour ? Where can we purchase it ? Finally.can you give some suggestions for drinking Feni or incorporating it in cocktails ? I wish you all the best. Goa is the best place to live. We need to let people know. Vivian
Re: [Goanet] Latest News ----- Manohar Parrikar Lost and Digamber Kamat Win
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. No winners and no losers except the people of Goa. Are we Goans so naive to elect the same old crooks over and over again. ? When will the cycle end ?. When will good upright individuals stand for election and be elected ? A sad and shameful state of affairs indeed. No dignity, no truth, no conscience. Everyone out to enrich themselves. The majority of voters are so poor that their votes can be bought either with money or with favors. This goes on from the grass-roots level, at the Panchayat level and goes up to the very top. Santana Afonso wrote: Finally today, Digamber Kamat won and 3 traitors Victori Fernandes (MUMMY) & Dawlikars Brother (SUDIN AND DEEPAK) were disqualified, lost the votes. It is a biggest shame for Manohar Parrikar, a VHP & RSS Member (BJP) who offered crores of rupees to side him. The people of All Over Goa shall file a case with the Consumer Forum Court and investigate from where does these huge sum crores of rupees come from? Santana Piedade Afonso
Re: [Goanet] Sausages In A Rosary
Merv: As a true Goencar, when my thirst buds need quenching, I hold off till I return to the little taverna in my village, on the brink of the paddy fields where the ambience is great, and where my friends Pedro and Forsu and Vaman keep me company and make fun of me. Somehow in such special company, the beer tastes better. And I still keep giving these guys a free round of drinks. I guess I am a sucker for punishment, In Mapusa I used to frequent the Victory Bar in the Bazaar precincts where the late ex-Tanzanian Mathew Braganza held court. But with him gone, the place holds too many sad memories for me. I have popped in at St. Xaviers Restaurant from time to time to see if I recognize anyone, but have not had much luck. All I usually see is a bunch of well fed sunburnt turkeys ! Mzee Shenzi Mervyn Lobo wrote: Folks, What's missing here is what is the er, coolest spot to wash away the dust of the market. Yes, I am talking about cold beers. Once upon a time, at least for E. Africans, it used to be Casa Bela, then Bertsy's. Bwana Shenzi, which is the spot you now use? Mervyn
Re: [Goanet] Archbishop's Address
So glad to see the stirrings of our usually susegad Goencar bhao and bhoini. I hope all this activity is the beginning of a real groundswell for change for the better. I am glad also that the Catholic church has realized that enough is enough, and are getting into the act. Archbishop Ferrao was brave to bell the cat and call a spade a spade. Goa desperately needs change. Let us all play our part rather than remain on the sidelines. Vivian Floriano wrote: Does anyone know what happened to it? Sachin Yes, indeed. I met Fr. Antimo Gomes (V.P. GNM) today at the Taleigao Rally, dropped him at the Panjim Church, where he is the Parish Priest, went in with him as he wanted to give me the 'GOECHE NIZ MOJI' amcho 'ELECTION-2007 MANIFESTO' which is scheduled to be released on 3rd. Jan, 2006 at Don Bosco's, Panjim at 4 p.m. And, I have been invited. I have enthusiastically accepted the invitation. floriano goasuraj
Re: [Goanet] NRIs lend a helping hand to poor Dhangar family in Goa (Preetu Nair)
A very heart-warming story indeed. There are perhaps thousands of such needy families in Goa. We need to reach out to help them become self sufficient. As the saying goes "give a man some fish and he will feed his family for a day, instead give him a fishing line or fishing net and he will feed his family for a lifetime". So glad to hear that there are such kind hearted individuals in Goa and in the diaspora. Goanet News Service wrote: Editor's Note: Preetu Nair's first article on this subject titled "Living on 7 rupees a day!" was posted on Goanet in October 2006. Preetu Nair consistently draws our attention to social issues that are sometimes neglected in Goa: http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=563 NRIs lend a helping hand to poor Dhangar family in Goa Preetu Nair
[Goanet] 2006 Annual Goanetters Meeting in Goa
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Spread the Christmas cheer - even when you're not here! Send Christmas Greetings to your loved ones in Goa. 2006 Christmas - Two Packages available from EXPRESSIONS http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/xmas/ All Goanetters, whether resident in Goa or visiting Goa are invited to join us at our informal annual meeting at the Foodland Cafe within the premises of the Miramar Residency on Miramar Road, Panjim, next Thursday, 21st December 2006 at 4:00 p.m. No set agenda. Just an opportunity to meet the face behind the keyboard, camradrie and any topic one may want to bring up. We go "Dutch" - buy your own food or drinks. The Foodland Cafe is situated within the Miramar Residency at the Miramar Circle, on the right hand side when heading on Miramar Road from Panjim towards Dona Paula, just past the Kala Academy, and before the Clube Tennis de Gaspar Dias. Do join us ! Vivian A. D'Souza (a rabid Goanetter) Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] The Goan crab mentality & other Goan expressions
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Spread the Christmas cheer - even when you're not here! Send Christmas Greetings to your loved ones in Goa. 2006 Christmas - Two Packages available from EXPRESSIONS http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/xmas/ In other words, "Why can't they be like Selma ??" Carvalho wrote: > "She's a simple girl" > > Why is this phrase used as a compliment? When did it > become fashionable for a girl to be a simpleton? Why > shouldn't girls be eccentric, opinionated, forward, > smart, glamourous, anything but simple? Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Walikng sticks
* * * 2006 ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET - GOA * * * WHERE: Foodland Cafe - Miramar Residency - Miramar, Goa WHEN: December 21, 2006 @ 4:00pm More info: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-December/051412.html Merwyn: I will let Mario duel with you. Vivian Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] 2006 Annual Goanetters Meeting in Goa
All Goanetters in Goa or visiting Goa in December are invited to our annual informal meeting which will take place at the FOODLAND CAFE, within the premises of Miramar Residency on Miramar Road, on Thursday, December 21st at 4:00 p.m. The location and timing have been set after listening to suggestions from various Goanetters. Directions to venue: Take Miramar Road towards Donna Paula and you will find Miramar Residency just past the Kala Academy, near the Miramar circle, on the right side of the road. Everyone is welcome to attend. Buy your own drinks and snacks or food. See you there ! Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Walikng sticks
I own a hollow walking stick with a hidden sword. In the "old" days, prior to the onset of hi-jacking and terrorism, I carried it outside my luggage (since it was too long) by airplane from East Africa to London and from there to the USA without a problem. Now I keep it hidden,at home or as an item of conversation, for fear of being accused of carrying a hidden weapon. Merv, I still carry a "daando" or staff when I take my brisk walks through my village in Goa as it helps keep unknown or unfriendly dogs at bay. And if you remember the movie Gigi with Maurice Chevalier and Louis Jourdan the dapper Chevalier carried and twirled his walking stick with considerable elan. I have several walking sticks of unique design and I keep hoping that they come back in fashion. Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Goanetters meeting on 21st December
I dont mind, but we have had several requests for change in venue. In the past we have had it at Kala Academy, and Clube Vasco da Gama as well as the Quarterdeck./Riviera. Because of the various requests I was advised to look for a change in venue,. though I personally prefer the Quarterdeck/Riviera. Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami wrote: Hi Vivian, Thanks for informing us of the Goanetters meeting on the 21st December at Foodlands in Miramar. Normally we have it at the Quarter-Deck, opp the Mandovi Hotel. Can we have it there, this is just a suggestion. Will be there. Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] 2006 Goanetters meeting in Goa
Please join us at our annual informal meeting of Goanetters on Thursday, December 21, 2006, at 4:00 p.m. at the Foodland Restaurant, within the Miramar Residency complex, in Miramar, Panjim, Goa. We hope that Herman Carneiro, Goanet's founder, who is currently in Goa, will be there. Join your fellow GoaNetters including your cyber sparring partners in good natured banter, as we foster the bonds that keep us going on this forum. Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Vasco Boy Murder -Update
2006 * * * Y E A R * * * O F * * * T H E * * * S E N I O R Goa Sudharop Annual Awards on November 20, 2006 @ Mandovi Hotel @ 4:30pm Chief Guest: Dr. Asha Vishwanath Sawardekar A series of essays as a tribute to Goan Seniors can be found at: http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=524 I dont know why it takes so long to bring the culprits before a judge. Friends of this murdered boy were arrested. Are they in jail now ? There was a plausible explanation of why the boy was murdered - money. Is there still something that we dont know ? ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Bleeding labour dry
Yes, it is true that Goa has a lot of catching up to do with the Industrial world. OSHA inspectors in the US would have a fit, seeing the un-safe conditions under which people work in India..welders welding without safety goggles, construction workers without safety hats or steel tip boots, people working without safety breathing apparatusand the list is endless. Life is cheap in India. All one can do is change things a little at a time. I do it with my workers, but they take off their safety helmets when I am not there to watch them, as they find it cumbersome. C'est la vie ! a time. I try to do it Carvalho wrote: Dear Vivian, This is what I've noticed about casual labour in Goa. It is much cheaper in Vasco than in the rest of Goa. Give it a few more years, the wage rates will depress for the rest of Goa as well. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Bleeding labour dry
Dunno about Selma's experiences. Labor in Goa is now at a premium. If you want a day laborer, you better be able to pay the price they quote and all the extras they demand. In my neighborhood, for the few households that still cultivate their own rice, this year has been especially difficult. They depend on itinerant day laborers to harvest their crop. After a great deal of haggling, the laborers condescend to come to your field, provided you pay them 20 percent more than the wages than were paid last year, plus refreshments (soft drinks/snacks) in the morning and afternoon, bread, jaggery and other food for lunch, plus transportation from where they live in the morning and back home in the evening. Alternatively, some laborers take a look at the extent of the work you need to have done, and quote a "contract" price to have it done. Often the work that normally takes an entire day is completed in a fraction of the day, when given on a contract basis. I am not complaining, mind you. Everyone should be treated with dignity and be paid a living wage. But the days when folks treated their servants or laborers shabbily are disappearing, as it is a "sellers market" right now, at least in my neck of the woods. Perhaps this is a local phenomenon, as the economy in Goa appears to be hotting up. Several times I have tried to hire day laborers who congregate near the bazaar in Alto Porvorim. If you get there a few minutes late, you are out of luck, as they are snapped up by contractors. I sincerely hope that the trickle down effect of India's expanding econcomy is reaching the common man. Inevitably there are regional disparities. The labor pool in Goa is made up mostly of migrants from across the Ghats in neighboring Karnataka where there are pockets of extreme poverty. So Goa which is increasingly becoming concretized is seen as the El Dorado. That's the realities of life in Goa. Vivian ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goanetters meeting in Goa - December 2006
Goanetters are invited to our annual informal meeting on Thursday, 21st December 2006 at the FOODLAND Cafe/Restaurant in Miramar, Panjim, Goa. For those not familiar with the location, the Foodland Restaurant is within the premises of the Miramar Residency, on the right hand side, when headed towards Dona Paul on the Pajim/Dona Paula Road. It is just past the Kala Academy and before the big traffic circle near Clube Gaspar Dias. All Goanetters are welcome to attend. There is no formal agenda. We each buy our own drinks and/or food and go around introducing ourselves to the group. In the past we have enjoyed meeting folks, some of who may have been our cyber adversarial debaters. It was a pleasure meeting Goanet founder Herman Carneiro at one of our past sessions. Since he is visiting Goa, we hope he will join us this year as well. This years meeting has been scheduled just before the busy Christmas holidays, when many of you come down to Goa. So if you will be in Goa on 21st December, please join us. Periodic reminders of this meet, will be sent out at regular intervals. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] So you think you are pukka Goan ?
Great article Gabe. Hopefully one day this test will be affordably available in India, and then we can put an end to people's notions of sujperiority based on race, caste etc. etc. I suspect Goans with all the ancient trade associations are more hybridized than we could ever imagine. Gabe Menezes wrote: Folfollwing is an interesting article on who we really are ! So you think you're English? Andrew Graham-Dixon Last Updated: 12:01am GMT 05/11/2006 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Fr. Anthony Saldanha, S.J. - Patron Saint of St. Peter's Church Altar Boys -RIP
What ? Carmo proposing a Bardezcar for sainthood ? That will tilt the ratio towards the Bardezcars - tut, tut, cant have that. :) :) May Father Saldanha who has touched the hearts of so many rest in eternal peace. Vivian (ex-Bandra boy) CARMO DCRUZ wrote: Hi Everyone, It is with a heavy heart that I have to inform you all of the passing away of Fr. Anthony Saldanha of St. Peter's Parish, Bandra, Bombay last night. It was Fr. Saldanha who whipped the St. Peters' Church Altar Boys group into shape and made them an exemplary Altar Boys' Organization for all the world to emulate. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] The Indian that is my husband
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Great post Selma ! Nice to hear that your husband is fully grounded in who and what he is and does not need to make excuses about his ethnicity, being proud to be an Indian. Throwing in my two cents worth...when I immigrated to the USA with my young family in the 1960s, finding a fellow Indian was a rare occurence. Though many Indians that I know of immigrated before me, we were still a miniscule contingent in the magnificent tapestry of races and national origins that make up the United States of America. Not long after I arrived in the USA, I was having a coffee in a drug store. All drug stores had restaurants within the store in those days. The waitress, not sure what to make of me, asked me if I was "Indian Indian". I was taken aback, and then realized the import of the question. I responded yes I am. That immediately differentiated me from the Native American, still known as Indians then. In retrospect, I laugh at the episode. Fast forward, several decades later, there are over a million Indians in the USA. Finding an Indian restaurant or an Indian grocery store or a fellow Indian is very easy. Most Indian immigrants to the USA came there as Professionals, in the early years there were mostly doctors. Later came the Engineers and the Computer professionals, all highly skilled and highly respected and able to hold their own in any situation. Often, at a party, someone finds out that I am of Indian origin and then proudly share the fact that their Doctor or Surgeon who they highly respect and admire is Indian too. Of course we Catholic Goans with our Portuguese surnames are an enigma at first, and at times are assumed to be Hispanic. That is until we speak and folks figure out that we are somehow different. Since the US was very selective in its Immigration criteria and did not get as many of the poorly educated immigrants that countires like the UK got in the beginning, Indians in the US are a highly respected lot as most people see Indians in professional jobs of one kind or another. But we Goans or I should say Catholic Goans tend to be stand-offish vis a vis other Indians, as though being Goan makes us superior to other Indians. Or perhaps it is our composite culture, part Western, part Indian. We have no dietary restrictions, we share the same religion as the majority of the Caucasians, speak English in our homes, play and enjoy Western music in our homes and therefore associate and socialize with them more than we do with our fellow Indians. Small wonder that many Goan catholic offspring end up marrying Caucasians. While we first generation Goan Catholic immigrants hang on to our "Goan-ness", the ties will wither with our passing and our children will be totally assimilated Americans with Goa a distant memory. I for one, though not born in Goa or India, nor having lived in India for a very long time, chose to return to Goa in retirement so that I could immerse myself in the village life of Goa. I am in heaven, and glad that I chose to be here. But with my children and grandchildren in the USA, I will continue to bridge the continents and return there to visit. I revel in the fact that I am an ethnic Indian and a Goan and proud of the strides that India is making economically, but equally despondent when I see the vast majority of Indians still living in penury. I hope that the trickle down effect will reach everyone, so that India will stand proudly among the community of nations and regain its past glory. Vivian ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Konkani words for grandmother
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. XENNJI or SHENZI Santosh Helekar wrote: > > The Konkani words for grandmother are xamai and aaji. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] HINDU MASS
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Well said Ana Maria, we are all children of God. I notice that Goan catholics have a severe hang-up about entering places of worship belonging to other religions and in fact look down on it. Perhaps this is an inculturation by the old time priests in Goa ? If we are to have true communal harmony we need to respect each others places of worship. Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami wrote: A lot has said on the above topic. There is no such thing as a HINDU MASS, its Indian inclturation of Christinaity or Catholicism. Before the end of the mass, 'when the priest says peace be with you', do we shake hands, with the person sitting next to us, or kiss the person, no, we do a namaste. Its an Indian way not a Hindu way. People are getting married in church in a sari, its an Indian way not Hindu way, men wearing sherwanis instead of a suits. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Random thoughts...................
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details The level and quality of discussions on GoaNet in recent months has reached a new low. Some of the postings are downright disgusting. They are not amusing ! To avoid the somewhat liberal censorship of the moderators, discussions have been taken off-Net, and I have had the distinct and unwelcome "privilege" of being CCed. I have carefully chosen to remain silent, but the discussions continue ad nauseum. It reminds me of something I learnt probably on my first day of Kindergarten when we exuberant toddlers made a lot of noise - "Empty vessels make the most sound" We also often hear the theme that "One who discusses with a fool is or becomes a fool himself" And finally,I keep the saying in mind that "Brevity is the essence of eloquence". Some of the posts are so long that Knowing what is ahead I just delete the post without reading a word. Having gotten this off my mind, I have decided to retire the E-Mail address I have used ever since I joined GoaNet over 10 years ago, so I will no longer be assaulted with unwelcome posts. Since I have volunteered to set up the GoaNetters meeting in Goa in late December or early January, I will retain my present E-Mail address till then. When I change my E-Mail address under my new persona I will reveal my address only to those I choose to correspond with. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goans wearing saris
The Sari is beautiful female attire which is very flattering to a woman's figure. Not everyone can wsear a sari with pizzaz or elan. Most Indian women are slender and have a willowy figure which makes then very attractive in a sari.Since many women in India used to carry pots and firewood and baskets balanced on their head they also had great posture/ During the several decades that I spent in the USA, my wife with my encouragement and pride, very often wore saries to cocktail parties and dinners. The saris were mostly of silk with jari work. She received so many positive comments and compliments on her attire. The women were generally jealous at all the attention she got in her sari. Some even bought saris and asked us to help them drape it on them. But the sari does not look good on everyone. Few Western women can wear a sari gracefully. In my younger days most of the women wore saris. I know both my grandmothers did all day long, even to work in the fields or go to church. Of course when they went to the field they tucked a length of the saree between their legs so the garment did not trail their ankles while they were in the soggy rice fields. Let us be proud of our traditional attire, which has stood the test of time. Vivian ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Happy 12th Anniversary GoaNet
I join Domnic Fernandes in wishing GoaNet a happy 12 th anniversary. Many thanks to the unsung heroes - the Administration team who have kept this forum going, despite criticism at times, when someone's post was rejected by the Admin team. Surely it is a labour of love that keeps these individuals on the Admin team going. Many thanks for a job very well done. May you continue to have the wisdom of Solomon as you are often called upon to make tough decisions. Wish you all a long and healthy life. Best wishes, Vivian A. D'Souza (a.k.a. Shenzi62) ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Nachne
Nachne,(also known as Ragi) the small red grain which almost looks like mustard seeds, is ground and made into Tizan as well as bakri or chapati. Old- timers always gave Tizan to people convalescing from illnesses as it is known to be highly nutritional. The Tizan version I have had was more the consistency of pudding, hence it had to be eaten by spoon. Delicious !! I have also eaten "bakri" made from Nachne. It has a nutty flavor that takes getting a little used to. The Nachne bakri I ate was a little sandy, probably because it was stone ground. In rural parts of India, Nachne bakri is a staple food. Because the grain does not contain glutin, one cannot roll out the nachne dough to make bakri. Instead it has to be kneaded and flattened out by hand on a wet cloth or wax paper before baking on a tawa. Nachne I am told is one of several types of grain belonging to the Millet family. Jowar is also a millet, but the grain is much larger and it is white in color. In my younger days, when wheat was scarce we ate Jowar bakri. Fond memories ! Learn more about various types of millets by doing a Google search. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] World Goa Day origins etc.
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Thanks Joe Vaz.I second your views that the credit for World Goa Day should go to Rene Barreto who tirelessly and persistently promoted this idea. After it was up and running, many have claimed to be the "originators" of World Goa Day and the debate can go on ad infinitum. This argument can be compared to adoptive parents who are the true parents of the child, regardless of the biological birth mother. Rene first mooted the idea of World Goa Day at a meet we had in Toronto in October 1993. Others may have had the idea at different times and maybe even earlier than that date. But it is Rene Barreto who has tirelessly promoted this idea, which has now caught on. Let us give credit where it is due. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goan authors..............
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. That was a depressing report by Silvano Barbosa about the lack of sales of his book "The Sixth night". In his report he mentioned that I was the first person to buy his book. And I will say this sincerely that the book was worth every rupee that I paid for it and more. The story while fiction, was based on historical facts dating back to the Portuguese leaving Goa. The story was thrilling, gripping and left one in suspense till the last chapter. It is indeed sad to see us Goans not supporting the endeavors of fellow Goans. I have also read and am in possession of two of Ben Antao's books, the latest being "Blood and Nemesis" which I could not put down till I finished the book. This book also while fiction was based on the same time period as Silvano's book. Among other Goan authors I have read Peter Nazareth's "In a Brown Mantle" which was based in Uganda, East Africa. Having been born and raised in neighboring Tanzania during the [period that the story was written about, I could relate to the events he described. One book, that I have yet to get my hands on is Tivolem by Victor Rangel Ribeiro. When I acquire it, after reading it. it will proudly reside on my shelf in Goa, along with the books by other Goan authors. I sincerely hope that more Goans will buy books by our own Goan authors, not only to encourage them, but also to learn about our Goan history. It is even more amazing and depressing that despite a very large Goan population in the greater Toronto, Canada area where both Silvano and Ben are based, there is such lack-lustre support for our own authors. If there are other books by Goan authors that I dont know about, please let me know the title and where I can acquire it. either in Goa or North America. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] SS Ramdas
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. The posting by Gilbert Menezes related the story of the capsizing of the SS Ramdas. This occured in 1947 NOT 1949. I distinctly remember the year and the incident, as our family was in India on home leave from British East Africa and I was all of 8 years old. The capsizing was big news at the time. I still remember the older folks discussing how the ship capsized. Some said that all the passengers rushed to one side of the ship and that caused it to capsize. Although I was very small, the story is clear in my mind, as I was terrified about taking the ship from Goa to Bombay after that incident. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Annual Goanetters meet in Goa
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. I have attended three Goa Netters meetings in Goa so far, and they were most enjoyable, especially putting the face with the name. I am still waiting to meet Ole-Xec-Xec though ! Fred, I thought the format of meeting at a local club or restaurant, with no formal agenda has worked fine in the past. Or am I simplifying things ? I would be glad to lend a hand, perhaps by first, finding a convenient location. Please let me know how I can help. You shouldnt have to bear all the burden. Vivan a.k.a. Shenzi62 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Christian Goanet vs Secular Goanet ?
Goanetters visiting Viva Goa 2006 in Toronto, Canada on July 29, can use the BMX booth as a meeting point. Please list your name on the message board that will be provided, courtesy of BMX. http://bmxgoa.com Knowing you, surely you jest Santosh ? (Pardon me if I am out of context here, as I have been travelling and have been away from this forum for a while). Though I guess there are some "Kooks" who are so wrapped up in their religious beliefs who might want such a thing Let's stay secular. I would like Goans of all religious persuasions or none at all to participte in this forum. Perhaps then, we could bring more balance to this forum. There are some folks, who think that being a Goan is synonymous with being a Catholic, and everyone else is a non-Goan. Rip Van Winkle is still asleep. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goa police -funny men
In my four and a half year stay in Goa, I had two interactions with the Goa police. Having lived over 35 years in the USA, the experience was "different". Here in brief are my two experiences: Incident No. 1 A loud explosion outside our house followed by squealling in distress by our beloved dog. We finally found her bleeding heavily from the mouth and rushed her to the Vet. After several weeks of hospitalization and excellent care at the Socrates Oliver Animal Hospital in Torda, Salvador do Mundo, she miraculously recovered. Called the police (around 8 p.m.) and was told to come in and make a report. Thinking that my dog was shot by a hunter and someone was on the loose with a gun, I begged the police to come and investigate. They said they were too busy. I was distraught and scared. I threatened to call the Chief Minister. The Police official on duty said "Kitem re, tum shano" or are you a wise alec ? But my threat paid off and they finally made an appearance, and went about investigating the incident. Turned out that my dog had found a hunters crude bomb used to lure wild pigs in a cashew orchard close by and had bit on it, triggering the explosion. But I dread to think what might have happened if there truly was a crazy gunman on the loose. Incident No. 2 My elderly Uncle and Aunt came back from a shopping trip to Mapuca to find the padlock on the front door had been broken. They called me. I rushed there in a taxi since I had no transportation of my own at the time. A burglar had obviously entered the house and was probably surprised by my Uncle's early return and left through the rear door without taking anything. Called the police. They said that I should come in and make a report. " Wont you come and investigate ?" I asked. The response was that they did not have transportation and could only come if I came and got them. So off to the Police station I went with the taxi. brought the police to my Uncle's house, while they carried out a cursory investigation. As nothing had been taken, it was not a big concern for them. I then had to take them back to the Police station. These are true experiences of my interactions with the Goa police. Next time, I will not call them. Things are just different in Goa I guess. Vivian A. D;Souza (happily retired in Goa) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20060626/a61ec6cc/attachment.htm ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
