[Goanet] Concept of God

2008-12-29 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:29:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com

 I dont wish to respond to Mario of course. The guy who has vowed to do 
 nothing for Goa himself will only waste my time -- obviously he has 
 implicitely declared himself as a hot air person --- . For those of us 
 who have better things to do, responding to guys like Mario is a sheer 
 waste of our precious time.

Mario responds:

This hiding one's head under the sand is an interesting way to avoid someone 
whose trenchant responses one cannot deal with.  Far better for one's psyche 
and ego to confront easier targets, while making bogus claims about the 
inherent tolerance and humanity of atheism:-))

To begin with, while I actually contribute foreign exchange from overseas 
anually to the economy and social services in Goa, I wonder how many Goanetters 
that Samir communicates with have done something for Goa?  I have asked in 
the past what Samir has ever done for Goa other than convert oxygen to CO2 and 
insult God in the name of tolerance and humanity that he says atheists are well 
known for, but it is hard for one to respond objectively with one's head under 
a pile of Goan sand:-))

By the way, there are two accusations I have made against Samir, both of which 
he has avoided for obvious reasons, a) intolerance of those he disagrees with 
on religion by posting a gratuitous, insulting post against God and those who 
believe in God, then relying on Selma, Santosh and Sandeep to bail him out, the 
first two with personal references that he is not communal, in spite of the 
communal nature of his post, and the latter by making up presumptions out of 
thin air of what Samir meant, and b) slandering Sonal Shah without any evidence.






[Goanet] Concept of God

2008-12-28 Thread Samir Kelekar
Hi
I am very much amused to see the accusations against me. I dont wish
to respond to Mario of course. The guy who has vowed to do nothing
for Goa himself will only waste my time -- obviously he has implicitely declared
himself as a hot air person --- . For those of us who have better
things to do, responding to guys like Mario is a sheer waste of our
precious time.

Miguel is accusing me of communalism because I said God sucks on 24 th.
Yeah, new year is coming soon too, so I would be accused more of
communalism.

It is interesting here to see how the mind of Miguel and other vieled
fundamentalists work. Even when I mentioned that Christmas was far
from my mind and I was responding to the long discussion on
conversions, the guy continues to accuse me. I have already defended 
my position, and unless he proves his point that I indeed had
some intentions to post this one day before christmas to hurt the
religious sensibilities of Christians, I wont have anything more
to say on the matter.

As to my language, I have enough dirty worded mails from Miguel.
If needed, I have no compuctions at all on posting those mails for public
cosumption to expose Miguel's hypocrisy.

Sandeep's point that we indeed should discuss thread bare the concept
of God and whether it has helped or harmed humankind is the right one.
But will these guys who have their own agenda to pursue take up the
challenge ?

Accusing others of being wimps doesnt transfer a perennial wimp into
a man.

regards,
Samir