[Goanet] Mining discussed at the Goa Global Convention

2011-07-31 Thread SOTER

George commented:
There should not be any doubt that Goa's media is on the side of the mine 
owners, mega-project builders, politicians - they are linked through 
business dealings, awards and grants for art and entertainment events, 
sponsorships, advertising.


Comment:
Leave aside the media, do the Goa miners and builders not control the 
literary and activist circles and so claimed intelligensia of Goa? The 
miners and builders decide who will rule Goa, isn't it?
While Vedanta's mining will get world wide publicity for its impact on Goa, 
the filth of other culprits will be swept under the carpet and projected as 
philantrophists. How many of the elite activists will boycott a social 
function if the mining lobby is present or hosting it? These will be claimed 
to be two different issues, isn't it?
Let us continue to celebrate in a fools paradise called Goa. As the bible 
says, How would it benefit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own 
soul?


-Soter 



[Goanet] Mining discussed at the Goa Global Convention

2011-07-31 Thread Mario Andrew Rodrigues

Dear Soter, 
 
Thanks for remembering the famous  How would it benefit a man to gain the 
whole world and lose his own 
 soul? which when repeated by Ignatius of Loyolla  gave us St.Francis Xavier 
and many other Saints

May we take time to Thank ALL Jesuits  for ALL  their work , activities, 
education, discipline, guidance.
 
Hope those in power and have authority in Goa , find their SOUL to do what is 
RIGHT, HELPFUL, BENEFICIAL to society...
 
Happy Feast
Mario 
 
 
 
 
 
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 George commented:
 There should not be any doubt that Goa's media is on the side of the mine 
 owners, mega-project builders, politicians - they are linked through 
 business dealings, awards and grants for art and entertainment events, 
 sponsorships, advertising.
 
 Comment:
 Leave aside the media, do the Goa miners and builders not control the 
 literary and activist circles and so claimed intelligensia of Goa? The 
 miners and builders decide who will rule Goa, isn't it?
 While Vedanta's mining will get world wide publicity for its impact on Goa, 
 the filth of other culprits will be swept under the carpet and projected as 
 philantrophists. How many of the elite activists will boycott a social 
 function if the mining lobby is present or hosting it? These will be claimed 
 to be two different issues, isn't it?
 Let us continue to celebrate in a fools paradise called Goa. As the bible 
 says, How would it benefit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own 
 soul?
 
 -Soter 
 
 
  


[Goanet] Mining discussed at the Goa Global Convention

2011-07-31 Thread Carmen Miranda
Soter Commented:
Leave aside the media, do the Goa miners and builders not control the
literary and activist circles and so claimed intelligensia of Goa? The
miners and builders decide who will rule Goa, isn't it?
While Vedanta's mining will get world wide publicity for its impact on Goa,
the filth of other culprits will be swept under the carpet and projected as
philantrophists. How many of the elite activists will boycott a social
function if the mining lobby is present or hosting it? These will be claimed
to be two different issues, isn't it?
Let us continue to celebrate in a fools paradise called Goa. As the bible
says, How would it benefit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own
soul?


Carmen's comment:
The initiative to speak about mining in Goa at Goa Global Convention was
precisely to expose the impact of all mining in Goa, the legal and illegal,
the illegalities of the legal who now we find are in fact also illegal,  and
to dispel  the myths regarding the benefits of mining to Goa.

You can continue to celebrate  in a fools paradise called Goa if that is
what you want to do. But I will meanwhile try my best to let at least the
entire Goan community worldwide (including Goa) know about the impact of all
mines in Goa and not only of Vedanta. Vedanta is of particular interest to
people in UK because it is the only multinational company operating in Goa
and registered in UK, so the British investors have a say about this
particular business. All the other mining companies are  mostly family
businesses and possibly of more interest to Goans, because almost all
belong to Goans.

This initiative can be one among many catalysts for CHANGE IN GOA.
I don't give up easily.and no one in Goa should give up either. I
believe in the power of the TRUTH about this issue which people need to know
about.

Carmen





George commented:
There should not be any doubt that Goa's media is on the side of the mine
owners, mega-project builders, politicians - they are linked through
business dealings, awards and grants for art and entertainment events,
sponsorships, advertising.


-Soter



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[Goanet] Mining discussed at the Goa Global Convention

2011-07-29 Thread Carmen Miranda
I would like to take this opportunity if I may, to clarify two points made
by Melvyn Fernandes writing on Goan Convention:

   Getting back to the Goan Convention, my excitement was so great that by
the time it came round I was too burnt out to participate.   However,
the Goan communication network the way it is, family, friends and global
guests kept me fully informed and entertained as to what went on, in
fact I felt I could have started by very own blog without ever attending.
The next hot topic I hear presented was mining, our esteemed Goan guests
must have found it interesting that having travelled half way round the
globe to be with us in London they had to hear what was happening in
their own country, of course it appears no-one can present a problem and
a solution better than we can, I mean Powerpoint, Graphics, etc.   One
attendee said he really enjoyed the presentation made by a Brazilian
lady.  Forgive me into thinking but I thought these mines were in Goa! 


Well, the person who presented the issue on mining in Goa , is GOAN , born
and brought up in Goa and a fluent Konkani speaker, who visits
Goa frequently. Yes my name is Carmen Miranda but I am not Brasilian.  The
person who introduced me before I spoke, for some unknown reason mentioned
that I had just returned from a holiday in Brazil,  and that was enough to
create confusion as many people indeed thought I lived in Brazil.

 As the Convention organisers allocated plenty of time to discuss Goa's past
history , I decided to talk about pressing issues of the present, and chose
to speak about mining, because if we don't bring this industry  under firm
control, Goa itself will become history.

Secondly, for your information it is in fact the Goans in Goa who most need
the information I shared at the Convention, (and twice at the Festival on
Sunday)   because most Goans in Goa in fact are not aware of the seriousness
of the devastation going on in their backyards. Yes they know there is
mining and it is causing some inconvenience to villagers in the interior and
believe that is prosperity .Well, if the majority of Goans in Goa were
well informed and aware, they would have by now got rid of the politicians
who are ultimately responsible for allowing the rape of Goa's hinterland as
the consequences of such environmental degradation will seriously affect the
future of many generations to come. That is why I began my talk by
dispelling some myths about the importance of mining to Goa's economy and
employment. Yes the powerpoint had some powerful visual evidence of what I
was talking about , which I believe brought tears to the eyes of many goans
who saw it for the first time and were totally shocked and unaware of extent
of destruction.

I don't know how many thousands of Goans were at the Festival, but all I can
tell you is that Save Goa Campaign UK tent at the Festival was buzzing with
visitors and in one afternoon we got more than a 1000 signatures for our
petition to the Chief Minister of Goa and his Cabinet to take immediate
measures to start phasing out mining.

Mining in Goa is not an issue to joke about. The fact that I was even
allowed to speak on mining at the Convention is a great achievement by the
G.O.A.  who hosted the Convention in London and I thank them  on behalf of
Save Goa Campaign UK for their unconditional support.

Carmen Miranda


Re: [Goanet] Mining discussed at the Goa Global Convention

2011-07-29 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Carmen Miranda wrote:
Secondly, for your information it is in fact the Goans in Goa who most 
need the information I shared at the Convention, (and twice at the Festival 
on Sunday)   because most Goans in Goa in fact are not aware of the 
seriousness
of the devastation going on in their backyards. Yes they know there is
mining and it is causing some inconvenience to villagers in the interior and
believe that is prosperity .Well, if the majority of Goans in Goa were
well informed and aware, they would have by now got rid of the politicians
who are ultimately responsible for allowing the rape of Goa's hinterland as
the consequences of such environmental degradation will seriously affect the
future of many generations to come. That is why I began my talk by
dispelling some myths about the importance of mining to Goa's economy and
employment. Yes the powerpoint had some powerful visual evidence of what I
was talking about , which I believe brought tears to the eyes of many goans
who saw it for the first time and were totally shocked and unaware of extent
of destruction.
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Carmen,
This is what Goan Global Conventions should be all about i.e. a platform
to display and discuss current problems and work on issues that effect our 
future.


I am not surprised of your contention that there were attendees at the 
conference 
who had little or no knowledge of the ecological devastation caused by mining 
in Goa. There is similar ignorance with Goans here in Toronto too. Even 
people who go to Goa every winter are not aware of the devastation done to the 
environment as very little is reported by the news media in Goa. 


I congratulate you for making people aware of what is going on their backyards. 
My congrats too on your petition drive. I hope it makes it to the internet 
where 
all those who are concerned with the issue can sign it.


Mervyn Lobo


Re: [Goanet] Mining discussed at the Goa Global Convention

2011-07-29 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
This was the case when the majority of the newspapers in Goa were owned by
mining houses. It is no longer true. FN

PS: Some of the local cable/TV operations are linked to mining majors
though, where their clout has grown.

On 29 July 2011 21:16, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 Even
 people who go to Goa every winter are not aware of the devastation done to
 the
 environment as very little is reported by the news media in Goa.



Re: [Goanet] Mining discussed at the Goa Global Convention

2011-07-29 Thread George Pinto
There should not be any doubt that Goa's media is on the side of the mine 
owners, mega-project builders, politicians - they are linked through business 
dealings, awards and grants for art and entertainment events, sponsorships, 
advertising. No attempt is even made to cover the trail connecting these 
business interests. And of course, it never hurts to put your mouthpiece as the 
editor of a major English newspaper. 

For anyone keeping score in Goa: 
  Miners/mega-project builders/politicians100
  Common man/woman  0
  Net result for Goa -100  

George

--- On Fri, 7/29/11, Frederick FN Noronha wrote:

 This was the case when the majority of the newspapers in Goa were owned
 by mining houses. It is no longer true. FN
 
 PS: Some of the local cable/TV operations are linked to
 mining majors though, where their clout has grown.
 
 On 29 July 2011 21:16, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca
 wrote:
 
  Even people who go to Goa every winter are not aware of the
 devastation done to the environment as very little is reported by the
 news media in Goa.