[Goanet] Re.Goan Tolerance

2008-08-12 Thread Arwin Mesquita
 Mario

Can you put your ANTI-GOAN IDENTITY views in the Goa's Media; lets see what
Goans in Goa have to say about it. Below are addresses of the Goan
Newspapers.

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Arwin

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Mario asks:
>
I don't see "increasing numbers" - just a small
handful of Goans, dreaming of days gone by.  The
increasing numbers more correctly describe the
"new-Goans" who have discovered the beauty and charm
of Goa.
>
There are, in fact, several Goan Identities, each in
the eye of its beholders, some of which, like the
caste system, continue the damage they have done for
centuries and need to be abolished by being shunned in
day-to-day decisionmaking.
>


[Goanet] Re.Goan Tolerance

2008-08-13 Thread Miguel Braganza
Dear Arwin,

Wake up and smell the coffee ...and get your head out of the clouds!

Who among these Editors of the leading English newspapers in Goa meets YOUR 
definition of a Goan?

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Derek Almeida [vice Sujay Gupta now doing PR for Timblo 
family business]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ashwin Tombat [vice Rajan Narayan now editor of Goan 
Observer]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Arun Sinha  [vice M.M. Mudaliar/ Bikram Vora]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] of india.com > Rajib Borah [new Edition in Goa]

Neither the newspapers northe letters to the Editor help form opinion in Goa. 
If that was the case, Fr. Maverick Fernandes would have been jettisioned from 
the CSJP by the Bishop due to the people's demand. Soter D'Souza and I might 
have been ostracised and Dr. Oscar Rebelo would have been declared a living 
saint, with two angels by his side. It has not happened inspite of a 
sustained campaign by "vested" interests who wear bush shirts as a routine and 
suits when attending functions at the International Centre, Hotel Mandovi, GCCI 
or Portuguese Consulate  irrespective of caste , creed and religion ...or 
political affiliation!

I have a Konkani speaking, convent-educated friend who was born and brought up 
in Goa by her Malayalee Hindu Brahmin father and a non-Brahmin Catholic 
Kannadiga mother. She is married to an airplane pilot from Uttar Pradesh who 
was in the Indian Navy and they have a daughter studying in Goa who is also 
fluent in Konkani. Now is this grand daughter of a set of inmigrants any less 
"Goan" than my friend in Toronto-Canada,whose grand parents migrated to 
Tanzania and raised their children in suburban London does not speak a word of 
Konkani . and has never been to Goa?

Feel free to forward this to any newspaper in Goa that you please. I will not 
retract my words. This week, my name is already a rage in the local newspapers 
for being an INTERNET TIGER. [Read Goan Observer of 09 aug, GT of 10 Aug., 
Herald of 11 Aug. NT and TOI have spared me so far. Thank God for small 
mercies.].It has had a disasterous fall-out: my wife has threatened to stop 
buying my favourite Parle's "Tiger" brand biscuits with immediate effect and 
force me on a diet of "local" flower biscuits! ;-)

Mog asundi.

Miguel


Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:03:53 +0400
From: "Arwin Mesquita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] Re.Goan Tolerance
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Mario

Can you put your ANTI-GOAN IDENTITY views in the Goa's Media; lets see what
Goans in Goa have to say about it. Below are addresses of the Goan
Newspapers.


Arwin

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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:44:28 +0400
From: "Arwin Mesquita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] Re. Goan Tolerance
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Santosh,

Its more of  Blind opposition not thoughtful. Your habit is to misinterpret
posts for vested interests; my letter was not inciting hatred.

Can you put your Anti-Goan identity views on the Goan newspapers; lets see
what Goans in Goa have to say about it? I am sure you have the addresses.

Arwin


Good to see this thoughtful opposition to the continuing incitement of
hatred against non-Goan Indians in all its forms. The solution to Goa's
problems is law-abiding Goans. There should be a grass roots campaign to
promote honesty in public affairs, and respect for the law, for each other,
and for our heritage, rather than whine and complain day in and day out, and 
blame others for our problems.

Cheers,

Santosh
...
Mario asks:
>
I don't see "increasing numbers" - just a small
handful of Goans, dreaming of days gone by.  The
increasing numbers more correctly describe the
"new-Goans" who have discovered the beauty and charm
of Goa.
>
There are, in fact, several Goan Identities, each in
the eye of its beholders, some of which, like the
caste system, continue the damage they have done for
centuries and need to be abolished by being shunned in
day-to-day decisionmaking.
>


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[Goanet] Re.Goan Tolerance

2008-08-14 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:12:51 +0530 (IST)
From: Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Dear Arwin,
>
Wake up and smell the coffee ...and get your head out
of the clouds!
>
Mario asks:
>
Miguel, since Arwin lives in the UAE, I think sand may
be more appropriate:-))
>
Miguel wrote:
>
Who among these Editors of the leading English
newspapers in Goa meets YOUR definition of a Goan?
>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Derek Almeida [vice Sujay
Gupta now doing PR for Timblo family business]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ashwin Tombat [vice Rajan
Narayan now editor of Goan Observer]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Arun Sinha  [vice M.M.
Mudaliar/ Bikram Vora]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] of india.com > Rajib Borah [new Edition
in Goa]
>
Mario responds:
>
Oh, well.  If that's the case, I refuse to grace these
obvious Outsiders with my never humble wit and wisdom,
which will be reserved only for Goanet:-))
>
I wonder whether Sujay Gupta, Rajan Narayan, Ashwin
Tombat, Arun Sinha, M.M. Mudaliar, Bikram Vohra and
Rajib Vorah subscribe to the same Goan Identity as
Arwin does:-))
>
However, I think that their control of the Goan print
media speaks volumes for Goan tolerance:-))
>
Goan tolerance and hospitality.  Now, THAT'S one Goan
Identity worth preserving:-))
>