Re: [Goanet] Build up Zero Chances within Zero Tolerance
2008/10/9 Laluram Salvi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Response I do not need certification for whether I have links with radical organizations or not from any dimwitted bigots. Being a Hindu I could not either stand the venom being spewed on Hinduism in the guise of criticizing Hindu extremist organizations. I can very well understand the tone behind the Hindu basher's write ups on Goanet. RESPONSE: Not all Hindus are Christian bashers, but all Christians who have been bashed, have been bashed by Hindus. Hope you understand this simple sentence. I do hope you read the Media, many Hindus are fomenting trouble, by openly detonating bombs, hoping to create more communal disharmony, hope you can understand this as well. We have it from you, that an attack on extreme Hindu organisations is an attack on Hinduism! How charming, calling others bigotted, you can see the spec in other's eyes, when you have a beam in yours! Here's one for you, since you are clearly bent in your views or a bit slow to grasp:- http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/75665/the-radical-and-dark-side-of-bajrang-dal.html DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
[Goanet] Build up Zero Chances within Zero Tolerance
Freddy Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : I am sure most of our Goanettes have by now caught up with your modus oprandi,you are one of those guys, that throws a stone and goes far off and watches theripples, your stone has created. I am sure most of us including our Hindubrothers on Goanet have realized your links to the radical organizations. Response I do not need certification for whether I have links with radical organizations or not from any dimwitted bigots. Being a Hindu I could not either stand the venom being spewed on Hinduism in the guise of criticizing Hindu extremist organizations. I can very well understand the tone behind the Hindu basher’s write ups on Goanet. They do not miss a single opportunity to have cudgel against Hindus by highlighting the violence by Hindu radical groups but conveniently ignore to underline the truth of reasons behind these incidents. As far as our Hindu brothers on Goanet are concerned it Depends on what kind of Hindu they represent. Even if they do not subscribe for ideologies of VHP and Bajarand Dal, how did you imagine that they will agree with your creepy thoughts ? You should not forget that protest and violence is a natural instinct of all life forms, especially to defend the integrity of their being. Surely, you cannot be dreaming of depriving Hindus of their right to self defense. FF: I just want to make a few things clear, first and foremost let me advise you,that the people who fund, support and instigate violence or terrorism are asguilty as the terrorist themselves, so you are a terrorist or a part ofterrorism yourself for your support for the RSS and the Bagrangdal against theCatholics and Muslims. Response : Look, you are talking trash out. You are only concerned of Orissa, Guajarat and Mangalore incidents. You can not accept the attack on churches, the storming of Christian and Muslim hamlets even if these acts were the results of provocation and were done in defense of Hindu faith. You believe that we should gladly accept the desecration of our temples, the Christian - Marxist mercenaries killing our Hindu monks and the Islamic terrorist bombing our parliament. FF: To further educate you on the behavior of humans, let me tell you that, peoplewith radical ideologies, who think like you are found almost in every walk oflife, and unfortunately there seems to be no remedy for that, so for the sake ofthese radicals, we cannot blame the whole community, for their misdoings, forexample we cannot say that every Hindu is a bigot like you or the radicalorganizations you support , can we ? So why blame the whole Muslim community ?Aren't the RSS and the Bagrangdal, as much terrorist organizations, as SIMI ?And remember to clap, you need two hands, cannot clap with one hand. Response : Let me ask you a couple of Questions based on your crackbtrained statement above. Show me any incident where Bajrang Dal, RSS or VHP is involved in any anti national activity like carrying terrorist activities like Bomb Blasts? Forget these Organizations, is there any other Organizations known to media who are attempting conversions of Christians to Hindus or teaching Muslims against their faith? Let us first see what SIMI and Christian Missionaries do in India..It is well proven that SIMI and Indian Mujahiddin (reformed SIMI) are well engaged in doing bomb blasts all across the nation. Their network is throughout the country and their aim is killing innocent people. Missionaries entice poor Tribal people of money and convert them to Christians. They also attempt converting Hindus by way of abusing Hindu culture and Hindu concept of God. FF: You also justify violence against Muslims because most of the terrorist areMuslims (according to you), so would you make it clear to the goanetters, whatacts of violence or terror were committed by the innocent Christian victims ofthe Bihar carnage ? Is conversion according to you terrorism ? If there were anyforceful conversions, why isn't a single complain logged with the Authorities ?Are we not in the a 21 century democracy ? You sure are a confused personality,at the moment it looks like, your body is in the 21st century but your peanutbrain was frozen during the stone age era. Response : Pastors Vinod Karsal and Sekhar Kashav of Assembly of God Church in Jabalpur of Madhya Pradesh were arrested on false conversion allegation on 14 August 2006. Both of them were taken into custody under Section 3 and 4 of the Madhya Pradesh Freedom of Religious Act, 1968. Conversions are taking place among rural poor illiterate people by missionaries where they offer them money, free education and medical service. These people fall easy prey to these missionaries. You should understand that for them hunger is their religion. It is failure of our Government in these states that they can not provide them what foreign funded missionaries provide them. So the lodging of
[Goanet] Build up Zero Chances within Zero Tolerance
Dr. U. G. Barad wrote: Writer appears to be pouring his venom towards Hindus in Goa and equally says he does not except GIFT!! What as joke!!! Comment: 1.I was not aware that Dr Barad represents all the Hindus of Goa. Thank you for this invaluable information. Where he saw the venom in his infertile mind is best known to him. Dr UGB wrote: ...when he has already accepted the gift..and not even had the courtesy to thank or otherwise for the wonderful gift he received?? Comment: Please do not speak in riddles. I am too dense to understand. I would appreciate if you could kindly put it in plain simple language. Dr UGB wrote: I request Goanet members not to chop his writing until he drains his intellectual weight? Comment: Sorry, I do not understand your pharmalogical english. Pl speak in English english. Dr UGB wrote: The writer needs to be given a long rope.and only there after..!!!??? Comment: Is this a threat? This is my last post on this thread. I do not wish to waste my time and that of other goanetters on inane matters. Let sleeping dogs lie. Regards, Marshall [Goanet] Build up -- Will the all new Indica Vista zip ahead of the Suzuki Swift? Read the expert review on Zigwheels.com http://zigwheels.com/b2cam/reviewsDetails.action?name=Ro11_20080829path=/INDT/Reviews/Ro11_20080829page=1pagecount=9
[Goanet] Build up Zero Chances within Zero Tolerance
Dr. U. G. Barad wrote: Marshall, Goanet is not owned by me to dictate my terms. If it was, you would have got a best gift from me, which unfortunately got rejected at moderation. Comment: Dear Dr Barad, unfortunately I do not accept gifts especially from people I do not know personally. And in the case of a hardcore hindutvawadi, a definite no. I would however, accept a gift of peace and harmony were you to advise this to your kinsmen in the VHP / BD who are still creating havoc in Orissa and elsewhere. And as for your best gift which was rejected by the moderators, please keep it for yourself. You most deserve it. Regards, Marshall -- Will the all new Indica Vista zip ahead of the Suzuki Swift? Read the expert review on Zigwheels.com http://zigwheels.com/b2cam/reviewsDetails.action?name=Ro11_20080829path=/INDT/Reviews/Ro11_20080829page=1pagecount=9
[Goanet] Build up Zero Chances within Zero Tolerance
This response is in connection with Message: 9; Dated: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 under subject title as is mentioned above. Writer appears to be pouring his venom towards Hindus in Goa and equally says he does not except GIFT!! What as joke!!! ...when he has already accepted the gift..and not even had the courtesy to thank or otherwise for the wonderful gift he received?? I request Goanet members not to chop his writing until he drains his intellectual weight? The writer needs to be given a long rope.and only there after..!!!??? Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Build up Zero Chances within Zero Tolerance
Marshall, Goanet is not owned by me to dictate my terms. If it was, you would have got a best gift from me, which unfortunately got rejected at moderation. Any way Marshall, please keep going and draining your knowledge with rubbish. I wish you very best in your planed vision. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Build up Zero Chances within Zero Tolerance
Marshall wrote : our police have little or no clue to what is happening. After every incident, under public pressure,they immediately jump into action and effect a number of arrests stating that they have nabbed the masterminds and broken the module. Until the next incident takes place, by which time public memory being short, the story is again repeated.3. Under police torture, confessions are obtained. But since the actual culprits are at large, there is no stopping further incidents.4. Bomb blasts and terrorism is not the monopoly of only Islamic terrorists. There are terrorists in the extreme right too who have so far not been investigated with the same seriousness and enthusiasm. There have been incidents in Kanpur, Nanded, Navi Mumbai and other places where the SS which is affiliated to the HJS( headquartered in Goa!!!) have been found to have a hand. Incidents in muslim dominated Malegaon and Hyderabad where muslims have been the main victims suggest deeper investigations are needed. Response : It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally certain, and exceptionally true, that almost all terrorists are Muslims. When will we wake up and admit the fact that almost all terrorist attacks against the United States in the last quarter century have been perpetrated by Muslims? Of the 19 hijackers on 9/11/01, all of them were Muslim. How about the Delhi Paliament attack on 13 December, 2001? Yes by Muslims. In fact, with the exception of Sanatan Sanstha men’s alleged involment in Malegao bomb blasts almost all terrorists attacks against our nation, and the civilized world, have been committed by Muslims. 400,000 Kashmiri Pandits, constituting 99% of the total population of Hindus living in Muslim majority area of the Kashmir Valley, were forcibly pushed out of the Valley by Muslim terrorists, trained in Pakistan, since the end of 1989. They have been forced to live the life of exiles in their own country, outside their homeland, by unleashing a systematic campaign of terror, murder, loot and arson. Genocide of Kashmiri Pandits has reached its climax with Muslim terrorism succeeding in 'CLEANSING' the valley of this ancient ethno-religious community. With the completion of 11th year of their forced exile, this peace loving, culturally rich community with a history of more than 5000 years, is fighting a grim battle to save itself from becoming extinct as a distinct race and culture. Marshall wrote : The sangh parivar loves using the words 'pampering minorities' and 'minority appeasement' and as examples they point out to the Haj subsidy or declaring Prophet Mohammed's birthday as a public holiday. However, they gloss over the tax exemption given to HUF's or subsidies given by various state government for religious pilgrimages. eg: subsidy given by Gujarat govt to Hindu pilgrims going to Mansarovar.They ignore the facilities govts give in places like Amarnath, Shirdi, and other religious places. Further only dalits from Hindu, Buddhist and Sikh religions are extended state benefits. Dalits who embrace Islam or Christianity are immediately deprived of any benefit. So much for pampering!!! If one reads the Sachar Committee Report it would be amply clear who is being pampered. Muslims lag behind on every development parameter except on their numbers filling state prisons. In Gujarat POTA has been used against muslims but not a single hindu was arrested under POTA inspite of the genocide committed against muslims. Response : I can give you n number of instances of Congress political surrender to the blackmailing of Muslims of India right from the days of Khilafat Movement in 1921. Mahatma Gandhi began this policy of MUSLIM APPEASEMENT IN INDIA with Indira and Rajiv Gandhi following this tradition the most prominent of being repulsion of Shah Bano divorce lawsuit and recent one not hanging of Terrorist Afzal Guru. We should accept the diversion of temple funds for churches and mosques, and the subsidy from the Hindu majoritys money to visit pilgrimages to Mecca and Jerusalem. We should also accept the largest state subsidy to those secessionists of Kashmir, who howl anti-India slogans and hoist Pakistani flag, and yet successfully clamor to disallow the temporary use of a mere 40 hectares of land for the Hindus, on way to a pilgrimage in their own country. Marshall wrote : Dr Barad fails to mention that the order was stayed by the SC and that strictures were passed by the SC against the offending Judge for exceeding his brief and giving vent to his personal prejudices. My Response : Read the following news in Indian Express Muslims in UP not minority: HC Press Trust of India Thursday, April 05, 2007 Allahabad, April 5: In a landmark judgement, the Allahabad High Court on Thursday held that Muslims couldn’t be treated as a religious minority anymore in Uttar Pradesh. Justice S N Srivastava gave the ruling after
Re: [Goanet] Build up Zero Chances within Zero Tolerance
--- On Mon, 6/10/08, Laluram Salvi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laluram Salvi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Build up Zero Chances within Zero Tolerance To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Received: Monday, 6 October, 2008, 6:40 AM Response : It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally certain, and exceptionally true, that almost all terrorists are Muslims. Oh c'mon Laluram, perhaps you've forgotten the Catholic/Protestant terrorists in Ireland, the Basque terrorists in Spain, the Hindu terrorists right there in India (a couple of whom died in the process of making bombs), the Indian army itself going berserk in Hyderabad, Goa, Nagaland, Kashmir at various times ... Make the switch to the world#39;s best email. Get Yahoo!7 Mail! http://au.yahoo.com/y7mail
[Goanet] Build up Zero Chances within Zero Tolerance
Laluram Salvi wrote: In fact, with the exception of Sanatan Sanstha men’s alleged involment in Malegao bomb blasts almost all terrorists attacks against our nation, and the civilized world, have been committed by Muslims. Comment: 1.First of all I thank you for coming out in the open and not hiding behind Dr Barad. Maybe it is time for Dr Barad too to realize not to front for others. It is very obvious. 2.The SS / HJS has been responsible for bomb blasts in Navi Mumbai and Malegaon and some of its members have been arrested. The HJS has its headquarters in Goa and every right thinking goan ( I hope you too will agree and support this move) needs to raise his voice and compel the government to treat the organisation as a terrorist organisation and keep tabs on its members and activities under close scrutiny.There have have been bomb blasts in Nanded and Kanpur where RSS members were assembling bombs.There have been acts of terrorism against the christian community in the Dangs,in Orissa, Karnataka and other places.It is time civil society treated these deliberate acts of violence as acts of terrorism which they undoubtedly are and put them on the same footing as other acts of violence. LS wrote: 400,000 Kashmiri Pandits, constituting 99% of the total population of Hindus living in Muslim majority area of the Kashmir Valley, were forcibly pushed out of the Valley by Muslim terrorists, trained in Pakistan, since the end of 1989. They have been forced to live the life of exiles in their own country, outside their homeland, by unleashing a systematic campaign of terror, murder, loot and arson. Comment: The violence in Kashmir has nothing to do with religion, though at times it does take a religious hue.The fight is for self determination. More muslims have died and suffered due to the violence in the valley. But this fact is conveniently glossed over by the BJP because it does not fit in with their scheme of things. It is true that many Kashmiri Pandits have been forced out of their homes and compelled to live in refugee camps. However, the BJP was in power for 6 years. Please tell us what did they do to enable their return home and to provide them security. All the BJP did was to use use them for garnering votes and for propaganda material. They have no sympathies for the Pandits. So please do not shed crocodile tears. LS wrote: Mahatma Gandhi began this policy of MUSLIM APPEASEMENT IN INDIA with Indira and Rajiv Gandhi following this tradition the most prominent of being repulsion of Shah Bano divorce lawsuit and recent one not hanging of Terrorist Afzal Guru.We should accept the diversion of temple funds for churches and mosques, and the subsidy from the Hindu majoritys money to visit pilgrimages to Mecca and Jerusalem. Comment: Only those who never participated nor contributed to India's freedom struggle will fail to understand the immense contribution of Gandhiji in uniting all sections of people in fighting the British by non-violent means and bringing a mighty empire to its knees. India's independence was a catalyst for the independence of several other countries like Ghana,Ceylon,Kenya, Tanzania, Zambia,Malaysia, Singapore, Burma,etc. Rajiv Gandhi did make some mistakes as he was not a 'politician' and was guided by people like Arun Nehru who later turned turncoat and embraced the BJP. It shows the communal mindset of the sangh parivar when they focus on Afzal Guru.Mercy petitions have been pending at the highest level for 6 years or more.Many of them during BJP rule. Why is the BJP not asking for the return of Prabhakaran of the LTTE who was responsible for the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi? Is it because he is not a muslim or that Rajiv Gandhi's life had no value for them? Sops like subsidies for pilgrimages to Haj have done more harm to muslims than good. Because they are mere tokenism. Had the government invested the same amount in providing them good education and healthcare, they would have been much better off today. Incidentally, the Haj subsidy was increased during BJP rule. So much for double standards!!! The Christian community in AP have made a big mistake in accepting subsidy for pilgrimages to Jerusalem. It will give them minimum benefit and maximum propaganda mileage to the sangh parivar. LS wrote: In a landmark judgement, the Allahabad High Court on Thursday held that Muslims couldn’t be treated as a religious minority anymore in Uttar Pradesh. Can Mr. Marshall give me reference that this order was stayed later. May be I have no idea of it. Comment: A small correction. The order stayed by a bench of the Allahabad HC within 24 hours and not by the SC. Pl refer to the following links: http://www.nerve.in/news:25350041269 http://communalism.blogspot.com/2007/04/muslims-in-up-not-minority-critical.html http://www.sabrang.com/cc/archive/2005/nov05/cover.html http://www.hindu.com/2007/04/07/stories/2007040707241200.htm LS wrote:
[Goanet] Build up Zero Chances within Zero Tolerance
Hi Marshall, Have you read the Article 25 and 30 along with the judgments on this issue? I'm sure you have not nor grasped these articles but preferred only to fire bullet in Goanet which is open to every Goan including pretenders to be Goan. Marshall, to help you out, I will only reproduce the zest of Articles. Article 25 - 28 deals with Right to Freedom of Religion; Articles 29 - 31 deals with Cultural and Educational Rights and Article 340 deals with Appointment of a Commission to investigate the conditions of backward classes. Now to help you again, read Part III of Constitution of India - from Articles 12 - 35 dealing with Fundamental Rights and Articles 14 - 18 which deals with Right to Equality. Read all these articles and only than come back with your quack .quack. Am I teaching or preaching english (Ingles bhas) in this message. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Build up Zero Chances within Zero Tolerance
Dr. U. G. Barad wrote: Article 25 - 28 deals with Right to Freedom of Religion; Articles 29 - 31 deals with Cultural and Educational Rights and Article 340 deals with Appointment of a Commission to investigate the conditions of backward classes. read Part III of Constitution of India - from Articles 12 - 35 dealing with Fundamental Rights and Articles 14 - 18 which deals with Right to Equality. Comment: Please ask your ghostwriter to come out in the open. I will then debate the matter with him. Regards, Marshall -- Will the all new Indica Vista zip ahead of the Suzuki Swift? Read the expert review on Zigwheels.com http://zigwheels.com/b2cam/reviewsDetails.action?name=Ro11_20080829path=/INDT/Reviews/Ro11_20080829page=1pagecount=9
[Goanet] Build up Zero Chances within Zero Tolerance
Dr. U. G. Barad wrote: Of late increasing blasts and waves of violence are rocking city after city in India. After every blast or violence one or other outfits / mastermind is named as suspect. Thereafter that case(s) is transferred from the Police to the Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) and then from the ATS to the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI). And finally 'Operation Cover-up' takes place only with a covert view not to punish the culprit(s). This raises the obvious question: does continuance of intimidation indicate that our apex investigation agencies or judiciary are not discharging their functional duties as is required? There might be n numbers of reasons for initiating 'Operation Cover-up' as there might be equal numbers of reasons for terrorism activities flaring up. Comment: 1. As an aside, I suspect this write up has been ghost written as the post does not carry the trade mark bad English, atrocious spellings and lack of clarity of the subject. However, if Dr Barad is indeed the author of this post, then kudos to him for the marked improvement over the previous posts. I hope he will maintain these standards. 2. If one has been following news reports in the media, and I mean the mainstream media, it would be amply clear that our police have little or no clue to what is happening. After every incident, under public pressure,they immediately jump into action and effect a number of arrests stating that they have nabbed the masterminds and broken the module. Until the next incident takes place, by which time public memory being short, the story is again repeated. 3. Under police torture, confessions are obtained. But since the actual culprits are at large, there is no stopping further incidents. 4. Bomb blasts and terrorism is not the monopoly of only Islamic terrorists. There are terrorists in the extreme right too who have so far not been investigated with the same seriousness and enthusiasm. There have been incidents in Kanpur, Nanded, Navi Mumbai and other places where the SS which is affiliated to the HJS( headquartered in Goa!!!) have been found to have a hand. Incidents in muslim dominated Malegaon and Hyderabad where muslims have been the main victims suggest deeper investigations are needed. Dr Barad wrote: In a pluralistic society like ours,national identity cannot be adjudged by any litmus test ... This nation does not belong to any single race. This expression is absolutely true and in line with the Constitution of India. But the biggest question is: Is his government practicing what he is preaching? On the contrary, his government is seen pampering minorities and yet not willing to finalize minority related 103rd Amendment - a perfect double role strategy which smells dubiousness. Comment: The sangh parivar loves using the words 'pampering minorities' and 'minority appeasement' and as examples they point out to the Haj subsidy or declaring Prophet Mohammed's birthday as a public holiday. However, they gloss over the tax exemption given to HUF's or subsidies given by various state government for religious pilgrimages. eg: subsidy given by Gujarat govt to Hindu pilgrims going to Mansarovar.They ignore the facilities govts give in places like Amarnath, Shirdi, and other religious places. Further only dalits from Hindu, Buddhist and Sikh religions are extended state benefits. Dalits who embrace Islam or Christianity are immediately deprived of any benefit. So much for pampering!!! If one reads the Sachar Committee Report it would be amply clear who is being pampered. Muslims lag behind on every development parameter except on their numbers filling state prisons. In Gujarat POTA has been used against muslims but not a single hindu was arrested under POTA inspite of the genocide committed against muslims. Dr Barad wrote: At this point, it's time to recall and read the ruling / the judgment which was passed by Allahabad High Court. The Allahabad High Court had held that Muslims with 18.5 per cent of Uttar Pradesh's population in 2001 - were not a religious minority in the state. The judgment also pronounced that state government should treat members of the Muslim community as equal to those belonging to the non-minority communities without discrimination in accordance with the law. Comment: Dr Barad fails to mention that the order was stayed by the SC and that strictures were passed by the SC against the offending Judge for exceeding his brief and giving vent to his personal prejudices. Dr Barad wrote: In short, if the bill (103rd Amendment) has to see the light of the day it has to be amended to give definitions of minorities in line with apexes courts landmark judgments and also abolish the existing national minorities pari passu. Such amendment once in place will obviate any confusion on the question of minorities. Comment: It has been the objective and dream of the sangh parivar to reduce minorities in India to the status of second
[Goanet] Build up Zero Chances within Zero Tolerance
Marshel / Marshall, Don't spend your time to suspect or imagine! Think positively towards saving Goa!! Write to fight / get evil out of GOA. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Build up Zero Chances within Zero Tolerance
Of late increasing blasts and waves of violence are rocking city after city in India. After every blast or violence one or other outfits / mastermind is named as suspect. Thereafter that case(s) is transferred from the Police to the Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) and then from the ATS to the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI). And finally 'Operation Cover-up' takes place only with a covert view not to punish the culprit(s). This raises the obvious question: does continuance of intimidation indicate that our apex investigation agencies or judiciary are not discharging their functional duties as is required? There might be n numbers of reasons for initiating 'Operation Cover-up' as there might be equal numbers of reasons for terrorism activities flaring up. Considering the gravity of n numbers, government's action plan as is being suggested by intellectuals need not only be zero tolerance but must also be zero chances approach. In this context let's see, one among many, Zero chance measure that would have complimented to normalize the turbulent situation long back. But no, it's still kept brewing for vote bank politics!! Recently at the annual conference of State Minorities Commissions in New Delhi, our beloved Prime Minister, Dr. Manmohan Singh stressed pluralism of the Indian culture saying India does not belong to any single race and that it belongs to a mosaic of religiously, linguistically and culturally varied communities ... India must remain a nation where pluralism and socio-religious variety are respected. In a pluralistic society like ours, national identity cannot be adjudged by any litmus test ... This nation does not belong to any single race. This expression is absolutely true and in line with the Constitution of India. But the biggest question is: Is his government practicing what he is preaching? On the contrary, his government is seen pampering minorities and yet not willing to finalize minority related 103rd Amendment - a perfect double role strategy which smells dubiousness. In this context, for better understanding, let me divide the period from 1540 to date into four phases. First phase: Times started becoming different from 1540 when Portuguese landed in Goa. That was a disturbing phase due to Inquisition and fervor of religious conviction either by force or by coercion. Phase Two: even after first phase, all Goans (Hindus, Christians and Muslims) lived in perfect harmony intermixing with each other. Third Phase: Our harmonically intermixing attitude turned our Goan mindset to get our Goa liberated from colonial bondage. We achieved what we wanted and again lived harmoniously. No signs of hatred at any level were visible. Fourth Phase: Today in liberated Goa we see disturbances from all fronts. Goans openly say any thing can happen to our Goa at any time.. This is more because our politicians are pampering Influx, slum dwellers and the Minorities . At the start of the fourth phase Goa did witness influx, slums, minorities but pampering attitude like today was hardly noticeable. All this is going on unnoticed only because the term Minority is not defined legally logically nor any Intellectual, Individual, organization, or NGOs made any attempt to specify as to what parameters need to be considered to declare certain group as Minority in the state or nation. In 2005, politicians were literarily shaken by two judgments of apex court i.e. 1) T. M. A. Pai Foundation vs. State of Karnataka case, wherein eleven judges bench raised important question as to 'What is the meaning and content of the expression minority in Article 30 of the Constitution of India?'. This bench also spelt out that Linguistic and religious minorities are covered by the expression minority under Article 30 of the Constitution. Since reorganization of the States in India has been on linguistic lines, therefore, for the purpose of determining the minority, the unit will be the State and not the whole of India. Thus, religious and linguistic minorities, who have been put on a par in Article 30, have to be considered state wise; 2) Subsequent to this judgment, Supreme Court, after T. M. A. Pai Foundation case judgment, once again, in Bal Patil Others vs. Union of India case reinterred the same stand. (Hence forth these two cases will be referred as landmark judgments)'. Factually, for the Ministry of Minority Affairs in India, redefining minority state wise, in accordance with apex court's landmark judgments has become a task as tough as bringing out water from a rock. And the bill for giving constitutional status to National Commission for Minorities (NCM) is hanging since 2004 and in view of the sensitive issues involved in it nobody wants to put their hand in it. The Ministry is in a fix over defining the term minority for more than one reasons - firstly in view of the coming elections and secondly opposition from the so-called minorities. The cabinet cleared the official amendment to the Constitution
