Re: [Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP
On 28 September 2010 03:12, Bosco D wrote: > > RESPONSE: Gusto!! after you sent in the post at the below link, do you > expect anybody to take you seriously?? > > > http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-September/199465.html > > At 1am, perhaps you are getting confused with all the various emails that > are coming into your mailbox from Goanet, "Spammers List", Personal appeals, > etc..and you are unable to discern the source of what you are reading?? > > - B > RESPONSE:- Bosco my man, I attended Cornel's funeral yesterday; don't know why but from the onset the priest made it plainly clear to the congregation. He stated that, it was a Catholic Church and the service was very much a Catholic Funeral. He hadn't ever met Cornel but wished he did! It was a good befitting send off, his younger daughter was overcome by grief during her Eulogy and at the same time his brother in the pews. I met Herman Carneiro, in person after five years! Still looks good, albeit no longer the young un of yesteryear. Poor chap had just finished the night shift 8 to 8...had a shower and came down. One of Cornel's colleagues flew down from the USA for the funeral. What I learnt: Cornel didn't suffer fools and when he met, it wasn't about how are your and how things are - he would straight away rush into how is the situation, now that Obama is at t helm and so on and so forth. I only wish I had sent Cornel Dilbert's law - as I have said here before hindsight is a brilliant thing. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP
-Original Message- From: augusto pinto > However I am going to use my freedom to speak freely - to tell > Mr Lawrence and Mr Menezes - if you have the guts please name the > people you wish to attack and be open and provide reasons for your > criticism of these people and when you do this at least.blah, > blah, blah.. RESPONSE: Gusto!! after you sent in the post at the below link, do you expect anybody to take you seriously?? http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-September/199465.html At 1am, perhaps you are getting confused with all the various emails that are coming into your mailbox from Goanet, "Spammers List", Personal appeals, etc..and you are unable to discern the source of what you are reading?? - B
[Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP
On 26 September 2010 20:23, augusto pinto wrote: > > > > Dear goanetters > > Using the death of Dr Cornel Da Costa as a smokescreen both Gilbert > Lawrence and before him Gabe Menezes were trying to attack some people > without naming them. I do not approve of such sneaky practices. > > I do not wish to call on the goanet administrators to stop such > behaviour because this will result in further suppression of free > speech. > > However I am going to use my freedom to speak freely - to tell Mr > Lawrence and Mr Menezes - if you have the guts please name the people > you wish to attack and be open and provide reasons for your criticism > of these people and when you do this at least have the decency to not > use the death of a fellow member of this forum to vent your disgusting > abuse. > > Mr Lawrence and Mr Menezes, your behaviour smacks of disgusting > sneakiness; it suggests that you two are cowards; and it suggests that > you deserve to be boycotted by Goans who think straight. > > Augusto > Augusto Pinto > 40, Novo Portugal, > Moira, Bardez, > Goa, India > E pinto...@gmail.com or ypinto...@yahoo.co.in > P 0832-2470336 > M 9881126350 RESPONSE: My heart bleeds purple piss, I was so looking forward for your approval, or acknowledgement/endorsement. I urge you to boycott me, instead of spamming my email address and others. I did not ask you to email me - I do not know you and wish it to remain so. So please, kindly try and adhere to netiquette; xikon brut. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stonesleast stones are thrown back and break their house down. More than twice I asked your group of spammers not to include me on your vile list. If only you had it in you to be civil minded, we would not have reached this sorry stage. Yes and again I have to repeat, if you can't understand the Nuances of English as written and spoken in the U.K then there is nothing further I can do to enlighten you - what I have written, I have written - I have not been put on this Earth to explain to the likes of you. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP
Gilbert Lawrence wrote the following: "Gabe as a seasoned and intelligent goanetter, you should know there are many such types (see below) on goanet.?They (same guys) make no?attempt to "read, understand and digest" what is written.?It appears a few?of them know exactly what someone else is saying; even before they read what is written. Then, they go on to reply,?tell and opine to the author (and others) what exactly the author said / meant. I?call them "Jack of all subjects and Master of distortions, smear and bogus claims." I suspect many goanetters (though not all)?use the advice you have given; and which you would love to have passed on to Cornel and others. To?repeat your?quote for the day: "Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level, and defeat you with experience!"? Dilbert's rules of order. We all will?give a sigh of relief when our names are removed from the unwanted spam mail; which was compiled?by some faceless, nameless and shameless?"dick"(s).??I think goanet administration should terminate membership?of this forum those who spam-mail others on this list. Regards, GL ? ?? --- Gabe Menezes Also there are some on this site, who have to be explained everything - nay spoon fed, simply unable to fathom out, simple nuances in English - despite their undoubted hard graft in studying." Dear goanetters Using the death of Dr Cornel Da Costa as a smokescreen both Gilbert Lawrence and before him Gabe Menezes were trying to attack some people without naming them. I do not approve of such sneaky practices. I do not wish to call on the goanet administrators to stop such behaviour because this will result in further suppression of free speech. However I am going to use my freedom to speak freely - to tell Mr Lawrence and Mr Menezes - if you have the guts please name the people you wish to attack and be open and provide reasons for your criticism of these people and when you do this at least have the decency to not use the death of a fellow member of this forum to vent your disgusting abuse. Mr Lawrence and Mr Menezes, your behaviour smacks of disgusting sneakiness; it suggests that you two are cowards; and it suggests that you deserve to be boycotted by Goans who think straight. Augusto -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India E pinto...@gmail.com or ypinto...@yahoo.co.in P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
[Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP
Cornel may or may not like this farewell, Yet Goans on Goanet would like to send him off today, with this hymn. Precious Lord, take my hand, (first of three verses) Precious Lord, take my hand, Lead me on, let me stand, I am tired, I am weak, I am worn. Through the storm, through the night, Lead me on to the Light, Take my hand, Precious Lord, lead me home. Composed by Thomas A. Dorsey Melody by George N. Allen. Till we meet again, Regards, Gilbert
[Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP
Gabe as a seasoned and intelligent goanetter, you should know there are many such types (see below) on goanet. They (same guys) make no attempt to "read, understand and digest" what is written. It appears a few of them know exactly what someone else is saying; even before they read what is written. Then, they go on to reply, tell and opine to the author (and others) what exactly the author said / meant. I call them "Jack of all subjects and Master of distortions, smear and bogus claims." I suspect many goanetters (though not all) use the advice you have given; and which you would love to have passed on to Cornel and others. To repeat your quote for the day: "Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level, and defeat you with experience!" Dilbert's rules of order. We all will give a sigh of relief when our names are removed from the unwanted spam mail; which was compiled by some faceless, nameless and shameless "dick"(s). I think goanet administration should terminate membership of this forum those who spam-mail others on this list. Regards, GL --- Gabe Menezes Also there are some on this site, who have to be explained everything - nay spoon fed, simply unable to fathom out, simple nuances in English - despite their undoubted hard graft in studying.
Re: [Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP
On 24 September 2010 12:51, augusto pinto wrote: > > > Dr. Cornel da Costa. > > But even if I am wrong, I think that it is not right to make use of > those debates and arguments that Cornel had as an opportunity to point > fingers at Cornel's and one's own common enemies in order to make them > feel that they are criminals. > Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India E pinto...@gmail.com or ypinto...@yahoo.co.in P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350 > > Augusto > > RESPONSE: Yes indeed, it was unfortunate that Cornel was so pissed off, > that he threatened to have one by their garters and to sue them. When one > reaches that level they mean business. > Also there are some on this site, who have to be explained everything - nay spoon fed, simply unable to fathom out, simple nuances in English - despite their undoubted hard graft in studying. Then there is the case of one posting a forward here and utterly believing it, about being infected by a stray needle. If I recall correctly he was brought down to size by one, who it appears is now his bosom buddy. I spoofed on that piece, indicating that I knew of a girl from Dubai Creek, who travelled to Australia; died because of this story - needless to say it was swallowed hook, line and sinker. Then there is the case of a sweeper on the floor of car manufacuting plant in Detroit who claimed to have an MBA from Ann Arbor, Michigan - when checked out the results came as nilthis was put out on the private site that you belong to - did you miss it? When one believes everything they read on the WWW then we have a a real problem regarding references given as Gosepl truth; there are no caveats thrown in except to quote the URLs to substantiate. Bah! -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP
For some reasons I am late to post these comments about this veteran goanetter, but yet I wish to say a few things to celebrate the life of a person who was involved with this very vibrant modern communications media for Goans worldwide. Dr. Cornel da Costa. When I become 70 - if I live to become 70 - I'm afraid I'll be a morose, sour. frustrated old fool - probably bed-ridden and with no one to talk to. Sometimes I wonder why I am not one already. So I do admire people who are capable of engaging one's attention even when they are at an age when I can see their companions have just just withered away. Cornel, I feel was one such guy. I never saw his face but yet to me he was alive as if he was just out of his teens and raring to go at life. In the brief period I had some cyber-interactions with him he came out as someone who had a great deal of knowledge, which he wanted to pass on to others - he was in a true sense a teacher. He did not want to teach because of his salary but because ... well ...simply because he thought others should know what he knew. We both had a similar Marxist orientation although like me he used his reading not dogmatically, but as a tool to understand the world. Maybe that is why we got on well enough although we disagreed often enough which is when I would infuriate him by writing to Cornel-Mam as I used to tease him - in Konkani. I knew that Cornel who was brought up in Kenya like me, would have to ask a favour from someone else to translate what I said as he did not have my Goenkar advantage of knowing Konkani. Whilst corresponding with me, I think that he felt that I had some talent and was wasting my time in Goa with us poor Indians here, and he once sent me a long letter explaining how I could emigrate to the West and make a better living there. I am not sure about his judgement about this (I don't think the English speaking peoples need an Indian to teach them English), and so I politely declined his offer for help in this direction - but yet I was touched by his concern. If he had come to Goa I'm sure we would have tried to meet and I would have much more to tell you about him. I would like to end by saying that I am a little saddened that much of the discussion about Cornel on goanet has been quite negative. Instead of telling us about his life in Kenya and UK or his services to e-Goa or to academia it is focussed much on his relationship with someone who people think was his enemy but I think was his alter-ego and if they met personally, would quite possibly be a friend - Mario Gouveia. It is true that he used to have fierce discussions with MG but also with many other people, including me just as I have had fierce arguments with Cornel and MG. But I personally feel these were life-enhancing debates and arguments for Cornel. Otherwise he would be just another brain-dead uncle. But even if I am wrong, I think that it is not right to make use of those debates and arguments that Cornel had as an opportunity to point fingers at Cornel's and one's own common enemies in order to make them feel that they are criminals. Augusto -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India E pinto...@gmail.com or ypinto...@yahoo.co.in P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
Re: [Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Goanet joins Noel Rebello to raise money for Daddy's Home (Margao, Goa) Sponsor Noel as he climbs Mt. Kilimanjaro (5,882m or 19,298 ft) Make a donation at www.Goanet.org, click on MAKE A DONATION, state "Daddy's Home" in the Donation comments For more information see: http://bit.ly/SupportDaddysHome --- For those of you who sent your condolences, her is Nancy's (Cornel's spouse) thank you. --- On Wed, 9/15/10, Nancy DaCosta wrote: Dear George Thank you very much for taking the time to send us all the condolence messages you have received. It is comforting to know that Cornel was so well appreciated and well thought of by so many people. We are finalising the funeral arrangements and will certainly email these to you as soon as we can. Best wishes Nancy
Re: [Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Goanet mourns the passing of Cornel da Costa in London, England - Sep 10/10 --- My Condolences! Better late than Never! I am privileged to having met Cornel in person at the Goan Convention 2008 in Toronto; and also again at the Goan mega Function in London later the same year. Because of this and also having a few skirmishes with him on goanet and other goan forums,I feel particularly sad at his suddem demise. I did not know; as I was travelling within Australia, and so I did not read 'goanet' for last three days; until a common friend from London emailed me about Cornel's passing away; only then I looked up Goanet. He was a good person, always concerned at certain issues that were plaguing him. I always had the feeling he was an angry man in some ways, and unnecessarily taking on the burdens of the world's ills upon himself so seriously, that he could have made himself miserable and stressed out. May his 'soul' rest in peace! He probably never believed in a 'Soul' So I would say: RIP. As an atheist and vehemently anti Christian (Catholic) religion only; I often wondered as to what sort of 'slant' his 'Atheism' held. I sincerely hope he will find out, in his after life. My sincere condolences to his family, that survives him and may they be able to cope with their bereavement. For 'all that' he Will be missed on Goanet and other Goan Forums. Nascimento Caldeira Melbourne, Down Under. --- It is with a heavy heart and absolute > shock that I inform you that Cornel passed away of a sudden > heart attack today (Friday) in London in a hospital. I > offered his wife Dr. Nancy our condolences from the Goan > community and will inform you of funeral services later or > perhaps Eddie Fernandes will do the needful. > > May he rest in peace. > > George >
Re: [Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Goanet mourns the passing of Cornel da Costa in London, England - Sep 10/10 --- Folks, I guess every one of us will at some point get a really painful experience on receiving the news of the passing away of a person. The news of Cornel DaCosta's passing fell into that painful category for me. Every once in a while I get to read a post that is so good that I archive it. This morning I took a look at my archives and what struck me was that all the posts authored by Cornel attacked the subject matter and not the author. Cornel made his views well know. His first email to me was on the use of its and it's. He later wrote on the Palestine issue, socialism, music, the religious divide and the caste system. In all these subjects, his views were similar to mine. I got to meet Cornel at the Goan conference in Toronto two years ago. Unlike many other cyber friends, Cornel did not disappoint in person. He would listen to your view point and causally agree or disagree with you. When he disagreed, he would tell you why. In short, he was a person you could disagree with and still be happy to have around. Cornel, as most of you know, had a one man crusade against the caste and especially the Goan Catholic caste system. That got him into a lot of hot water on Goanet. At some point, he decided it would be in his best interest not to post on Goanet. We are all the poorer for this. He is now at a place where there is no caste system. Rest in peace my friend. You did enrich the lives of those you met on your journey. Mervyn Lobo - Original Message From: George Pinto To: Goanet Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 9:55:42 PM Subject: [Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP It is with a heavy heart and absolute shock that I inform you that Cornel passed away of a sudden heart attack today (Friday) in London in a hospital. I offered his wife Dr. Nancy our condolences from the Goan community and will inform you of funeral services later or perhaps Eddie Fernandes will do the needful. May he rest in peace. George
[Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP
I am shocked to hear the news about Cornel. He was there on the net yesterday early morning... Cornel was one of the active Goanetters for many years Infact, many times he figured in Top Ten list His last post on Goanet seems last month i.e. Aug.12. However, elsewhere in the forum, I saw his post at 2am yesterday, the day he died. Cornel also use to write to me, I remember, in reply to my post he once came back to say Ref: Talking Photo: This is not Maid in Gulf but in Goa (Porvorim) Hi Joe Please let me know how one can contribute to the tortured girls fight in court. Her employers should be locked up for a long time. Cornel” Cornel, like me, was damn against the caste system prevailing in the church. which he know by going through his post over the years. We will miss you Cornel Role of Honour (Goanet) 9 Nov 2007 Sanny de Quepem (Sanny Vaz) 27 Nov. 2007 Jorge de Abreu Noronha ? Aug, 2009 Philip Thomas 10 Sept. 2010 Cornel Da Costa * pl help to update (if any) joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP
This is indeed absolutely SHOCKING CORNEL has been a permanent guest in our inbox for a long time. His not being there will be sadly missed on the internet fora. Goa Su-Raj Party, especially sends its CONDOLENCES & deepest sympathies to his wife Dr. Nancy and other family members on his sad, untimely and sudden passing away. It is for the first time that we had a glimpse of our CORNEL courtesy Kewin Saldanha. May his good sould rest in eternal peace. floriano lobo Gen. Secretary/internet friend Goa Su-Raj Party 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org - Original Message - From: "George Pinto" To: "Goanet" Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:25 AM Subject: [Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP It is with a heavy heart and absolute shock that I inform you that Cornel passed away of a sudden heart attack today (Friday) in London in a hospital. I offered his wife Dr. Nancy our condolences from the Goan community and will inform you of funeral services later or perhaps Eddie Fernandes will do the needful. May he rest in peace. George
Re: [Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP
We will not be able to replace him. I had told him of my empathy, he did have strong feelings about human foibles, and of the short end often dealt his folk. R.I.P. eric. From: George Pinto
[Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP * photos from the Goan Convention 2008 (Toronto)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/goanet/2719106688/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/goanet/2714254728/ (in the middle with hat) http://www.flickr.com/photos/goanet/2711753960/ (2nd row, left) http://www.flickr.com/photos/goanet/2711750594/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/12794...@n00/2709301122/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/goanet/with/2711750594/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/12794...@n00/with/2709301122/ All Photos courtesy Edgar Silveira
[Goanet] Cornel DaCosta, RIP
It is with a heavy heart and absolute shock that I inform you that Cornel passed away of a sudden heart attack today (Friday) in London in a hospital. I offered his wife Dr. Nancy our condolences from the Goan community and will inform you of funeral services later or perhaps Eddie Fernandes will do the needful. May he rest in peace. George
