Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto

2013-09-06 Thread Alfred de Tavares
Not 'DUAL' Rico?
Chacha

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 A question on the subjectline -- shouldn't it be duel citizenship? FN
  

Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto

2013-09-06 Thread Eugene Correia
Dual or Duel, no matter what the issue is complex. What did the poster mean
by motto? Her post is best suited for a website that she used to
contribute to as there are many experts on it, particularly when it refers
to Goan having Portuguese passports and also want to get the best of India
without paying the necessary fees or a lower fees. Want to have the cake
and eat it too!

If I remember correctly, Maria had raised the same issue earlier. Her major
problems seems to be the surrender of Indian passport for OCI card and the
fees for it. If the government deems it's fair price to pay for getting the
card and with it some privileges.

I recently talked to a consulate official regarding my OCI as I have got a
new Canadian passport. According to new rule, the OCI card must be
transferred to the new passport at least once. The official informed me
that since I had done the OCI after age 50 I don't need to do so. She said
I can travel with the OCI card on the old passport. It's gives a lifelong
visa.

It's best to get clarification before travelling to India as often the
immigration officials at Indian airports are known to harass OCI card
holders.

People such as Maria can't do much in this regard but just make useless
noises. This issue of fees and other things were taken up by the groups of
people with origin in India in both US and Canada and then the government
lowered the fees. So, for Goans with Portuguese passports, some of them who
may think they are discriminated against, must either join together as a
group and make their case. It would be best if such people take up the case
with Indian embassy in UK and see what is the reaction from the embassy
officials.

Eugene


Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto

2013-09-06 Thread Joseph de Souza

I think it's a typo should be dual

Joseph
On 05-09-2013 22:12, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك 
نورونيا wrote:

A question on the subjectline -- shouldn't it be duel citizenship? FN





Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto

2013-09-05 Thread Vivian A. DSouza
I find the very concept of dual citizenship to be repugnant.  A dual citizen 
has divided loyalties to
two different countries.  Far fetched, but on which side would a dual citizen's 
loyalties lie if the two countries he belongs to are at war with each other ?

I prefer to pledge my allegiance to one country, come what may, and only if f 
or whatever reason, such as immigration to improve my life prospects, I decide 
to accept the citizenship of another country, I will abandon my former 
citizenship.India is absolutely correct in requiring those who
take citizenship in another country to give up Indian citizenship. This is what 
any self respecting country will do.

I believe  the trend towards dual citizenship started with the Israelis for 
which the USA made a special exception because they are hand in glove with the 
Israelis anyway. For all practical purposes, Israel may as well be the 51st 
State of the USA.  Does Canada allow its citizens to
hold dual citizenship  ?.

Citizens of the USA  by law are automatically considered to  have renounced US 
citizenship if they
acquire the passport of another country, or join the Armed Forces of another 
country.



Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto

2013-09-05 Thread Jose Colaco
On Sep 5, 2013, at 5:06 AM, Vivian A. DSouza socorro...@yahoo.com wrote:

Citizens of the USA  by law are automatically considered to  have renounced US 
citizenship if they acquire the passport of another country

COMMENT:

 My limited knowledge of US law does not permit me to definitively confirm the 
above quoted statement from Vivian.

On the contrary, unless directed to the Law Vivian is 'quoting', I am led to 
believe that Vivian is, in all probability, misrepresenting the position of the 
US wrt dual or even multiple nationalities.

jc

Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto

2013-09-05 Thread Tim de Mello
Vivian said:

re: Israel may as well be the 51st State of the USA

I think it may be more correct to say that the USA is the seventh district of 
Israel.

Tim



 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 02:06:47 -0700
 From: socorro...@yahoo.com
 To: Goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto
 
 I find the very concept of dual citizenship to be repugnant. A dual citizen 
 has divided loyalties to
 two different countries. Far fetched, but on which side would a dual 
 citizen's loyalties lie if the two countries he belongs to are at war with 
 each other ?
 
 I prefer to pledge my allegiance to one country, come what may, and only if f 
 or whatever reason, such as immigration to improve my life prospects, I 
 decide to accept the citizenship of another country, I will abandon my former 
 citizenship. India is absolutely correct in requiring those who
 take citizenship in another country to give up Indian citizenship. This is 
 what any self respecting country will do.
 
 I believe the trend towards dual citizenship started with the Israelis for 
 which the USA made a special exception because they are hand in glove with 
 the Israelis anyway. For all practical purposes, Israel may as well be the 
 51st State of the USA. Does Canada allow its citizens to
 hold dual citizenship ?.
 
 Citizens of the USA by law are automatically considered to have renounced US 
 citizenship if they
 acquire the passport of another country, or join the Armed Forces of another 
 country.
 

Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto

2013-09-05 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
A question on the subjectline -- shouldn't it be duel citizenship? FN