Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto
Not 'DUAL' Rico? Chacha From: fredericknoro...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:12:01 +0530 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto A question on the subjectline -- shouldn't it be duel citizenship? FN
Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto
Dual or Duel, no matter what the issue is complex. What did the poster mean by motto? Her post is best suited for a website that she used to contribute to as there are many experts on it, particularly when it refers to Goan having Portuguese passports and also want to get the best of India without paying the necessary fees or a lower fees. Want to have the cake and eat it too! If I remember correctly, Maria had raised the same issue earlier. Her major problems seems to be the surrender of Indian passport for OCI card and the fees for it. If the government deems it's fair price to pay for getting the card and with it some privileges. I recently talked to a consulate official regarding my OCI as I have got a new Canadian passport. According to new rule, the OCI card must be transferred to the new passport at least once. The official informed me that since I had done the OCI after age 50 I don't need to do so. She said I can travel with the OCI card on the old passport. It's gives a lifelong visa. It's best to get clarification before travelling to India as often the immigration officials at Indian airports are known to harass OCI card holders. People such as Maria can't do much in this regard but just make useless noises. This issue of fees and other things were taken up by the groups of people with origin in India in both US and Canada and then the government lowered the fees. So, for Goans with Portuguese passports, some of them who may think they are discriminated against, must either join together as a group and make their case. It would be best if such people take up the case with Indian embassy in UK and see what is the reaction from the embassy officials. Eugene
Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto
I think it's a typo should be dual Joseph On 05-09-2013 22:12, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا wrote: A question on the subjectline -- shouldn't it be duel citizenship? FN
Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto
I find the very concept of dual citizenship to be repugnant. A dual citizen has divided loyalties to two different countries. Far fetched, but on which side would a dual citizen's loyalties lie if the two countries he belongs to are at war with each other ? I prefer to pledge my allegiance to one country, come what may, and only if f or whatever reason, such as immigration to improve my life prospects, I decide to accept the citizenship of another country, I will abandon my former citizenship.India is absolutely correct in requiring those who take citizenship in another country to give up Indian citizenship. This is what any self respecting country will do. I believe the trend towards dual citizenship started with the Israelis for which the USA made a special exception because they are hand in glove with the Israelis anyway. For all practical purposes, Israel may as well be the 51st State of the USA. Does Canada allow its citizens to hold dual citizenship ?. Citizens of the USA by law are automatically considered to have renounced US citizenship if they acquire the passport of another country, or join the Armed Forces of another country.
Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto
On Sep 5, 2013, at 5:06 AM, Vivian A. DSouza socorro...@yahoo.com wrote: Citizens of the USA by law are automatically considered to have renounced US citizenship if they acquire the passport of another country COMMENT: My limited knowledge of US law does not permit me to definitively confirm the above quoted statement from Vivian. On the contrary, unless directed to the Law Vivian is 'quoting', I am led to believe that Vivian is, in all probability, misrepresenting the position of the US wrt dual or even multiple nationalities. jc
Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto
Vivian said: re: Israel may as well be the 51st State of the USA I think it may be more correct to say that the USA is the seventh district of Israel. Tim Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 02:06:47 -0700 From: socorro...@yahoo.com To: Goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto I find the very concept of dual citizenship to be repugnant. A dual citizen has divided loyalties to two different countries. Far fetched, but on which side would a dual citizen's loyalties lie if the two countries he belongs to are at war with each other ? I prefer to pledge my allegiance to one country, come what may, and only if f or whatever reason, such as immigration to improve my life prospects, I decide to accept the citizenship of another country, I will abandon my former citizenship. India is absolutely correct in requiring those who take citizenship in another country to give up Indian citizenship. This is what any self respecting country will do. I believe the trend towards dual citizenship started with the Israelis for which the USA made a special exception because they are hand in glove with the Israelis anyway. For all practical purposes, Israel may as well be the 51st State of the USA. Does Canada allow its citizens to hold dual citizenship ?. Citizens of the USA by law are automatically considered to have renounced US citizenship if they acquire the passport of another country, or join the Armed Forces of another country.
Re: [Goanet] Dueal citizenship should be the motto
A question on the subjectline -- shouldn't it be duel citizenship? FN