[Goanet] Duent ani dotor

2013-10-14 Thread Bernado Colaco
I like to dedicate this song to Dona Ana Maria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vr0amOKCHo
 
BC
 
 
 
. My mother did not give us any of those and for last forty years I never got 
polio, cold or fever (that too once in blue moon)so too my children. Can dotor 
colaco speak on this ?  


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2013-10-14 Thread Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão
I had read this saying somewhere: If you think education is expensive, try 
ignorance.
And our politicians say we have achieved 100% literacy and made education free 
for all.
The definition of so called Development!

Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.   

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2013-10-14 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 14 October 2013 06:02, Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 I like to dedicate this song to Dona Ana Maria
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vr0amOKCHo

 BC


RESPONSE: Manchester City's signature song!

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.


Re: [Goanet] Duent ani dotor

2013-10-14 Thread roland.francis
Our good friend must be lonely in Macao for feeling the urge to serenade AM far 
away in amchem Goem.

Perhaps he's had enough of all that Chinese influence, Argentinian beef and 
British luxury cars notwithstanding.



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Date: 10-14-2013  1:53 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
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On 14 October 2013 06:02, Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 I like to dedicate this song to Dona Ana Maria
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vr0amOKCHo

 BC









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2013-10-13 Thread Ana Maria Fernandes
In the good older days every village had a doctor who was known as gaumcho voiz 
and paid by the government. Other doctors charged a nominal fee of I think two 
or three or may be five rupees. In case of cold and fever the medicine given 
was a mixture and the prescription could be read only by someone in the 
pharmacy. The medicine did not go well inside and lot of fuss had to be made 
and lot of beatings would be given and a force had to be used. By the time the 
bottle with paper markings got over the disease left your body and you are fine 
and fit. Many of the old were recommended to put leaches, cut veins, (xiro 
marop) ventos, sangri shake, etc. These doctors came on cycle, and sometimes 
walking. Most of the doctors were from rich homes and the profession was more 
of a hobby than money. Today aprofession has become a private limited factory. 
In my neighbourhood there is an elderly lady in her late seventies. Her 
daughter had come from australia and took her out for late night dinner, 
weddings etc she had lot of cold beer and ice cream for many days at the end of 
which she got some problems. A severe pain the abdomen. She was taken to the 
doctor who checked her and sent her for a blood test. Hundred and one blood 
tests were done, then ultra sound, ecg, chest and abodomen x ray and finally 
the most difficult one was endoscopy. All tests were negative, bank balance was 
minus and then the pain also dissappeared before the doctor's prescribed 
medicine was given to her. How did she get well ? her neighbour came and gave a 
peg of good caju feni for two days. all the cold dissappeared.  
 

Re: [Goanet] Duent ani dotor

2013-10-13 Thread J. Colaco jc
Mogal Ana Maria,

There was an interesting vignette in your post.

Part of what you state, surely, is true, and part conjecture, probably
related to understandable non-information.

Put yourself in the position of the doctor who was consulted.

What would you do, esp with a patient you had never seen before but who had
now presented with severe abdominal pain?

That too in a small place within Goawith the ghuspott which follows
every mishap (avoidable or not)


As you probably have guessed, I am trying out the 'doutorbab doutorbab'
snippets.

You have just given me one scenario to incorporate (perhaps two)


At this point, I'd say this to you: It is not easy to be a good doctor;
neither educationally nor in practice.

Besides, there are all kinds of (possibly wannabe doutors but couldn't) who
spout (even partisan) nonsense about healthcare
They are the ones, I submit, who are driving up the complexity and cost of
healthcare  for the doentes.

And then there is amcho Fidelis who wanted to control the doutors without
understanding doutorponn.

There is no shortage of modern day Fidelises among our Goencars.

More on another day

Thank you once again

jc


On 13 October 2013 07:50, Ana Maria Fernandes amferns_n...@hotmail.comwrote:

 In the good older days every village had a doctor who was known as gaumcho
 voiz and paid by the government. Other doctors charged a nominal fee of I
 think two or three or may be five rupees. In case of cold and fever the
 medicine given was a mixture and the prescription could be read only by
 someone in the pharmacy. The medicine did not go well inside and lot of
 fuss had to be made and lot of beatings would be given and a force had to
 be used. By the time the bottle with paper markings got over the disease
 left your body and you are fine and fit. Many of the old were recommended
 to put leaches, cut veins, (xiro marop) ventos, sangri shake, etc. These
 doctors came on cycle, and sometimes walking. Most of the doctors were from
 rich homes and the profession was more of a hobby than money. Today
 aprofession has become a private limited factory. In my neighbourhood there
 is an elderly lady in her late seventies. Her daughter had come from
 australia and took her out for late night dinner, weddings etc she had lot
 of cold beer and ice cream for many days at the end of which she got some
 problems. A severe pain the abdomen. She was taken to the doctor who
 checked her and sent her for a blood test. Hundred and one blood tests were
 done, then ultra sound, ecg, chest and abodomen x ray and finally the most
 difficult one was endoscopy. All tests were negative, bank balance was
 minus and then the pain also dissappeared before the doctor's prescribed
 medicine was given to her. How did she get well ? her neighbour came and
 gave a peg of good caju feni for two days. all the cold dissappeared.



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2013-10-13 Thread Ana Maria Fernandes
This incident happened when my grandmother was alive. A young five year old 
girl suffered from bronchities. The girl lived in my neighbour hood. My 
grandmother advised the parents to put ventos. The father took the girl to a 
good doctor who got her admitted and put her on antiobiotics and within two 
days the child was discharged fully cured. Four months later again the child 
got the same sickness. could not breathe, again my shameless grandmother told 
the mother and father to put ventos. They again got her admitted and within two 
days stay in the hospital the child reached home. Again five months to be 
precise the child aMy grgain got admitted in the hospital. My grandmother 
shouted at the parents but they took her to be a senile woman. My grandmother 
stopped telling the parents . after five and half years of this exercise the 
child was admitted this time .They had to remove the greasy mucus like yellow 
substance from the lungs and they kept the child for nearly ten days. first 
three days on oxygen. The child became weak and could not attend to school. The 
child was discharged but of an on they had to admit the child to remove the 
flem in the lungs.  think the child had developed Pleursy. I am not sure. and 
on 10th of June 2000 the child passed away. When my grandma visited them she 
told the parents  You killed your lovely child. My grandmother passed away. I 
still remember her remedy. I have not given any dose to my children from birth. 
Do you know that when BCG dose is given the child many times suffer from cold 
and fever ? Many people grumbled at me for not giving polio and other rubbish 
doses. My mother did not give us any of those and for last forty years I never 
got polio, cold or fever (that too once in blue moon)so too my children. Can 
dotor colaco speak on this ?  

Re: [Goanet] Duent ani dotor

2013-10-13 Thread Jose Colaco

On Oct 13, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Ana Maria Fernandes amferns_n...@hotmail.com 
wrote:

This incident happened when my grandmother was alive. A young five year old 
girl suffered from bronchities. The girl lived in my neighbour hood. My 
grandmother advised the parents to put ventos. The father took the girl to a 
good doctor who got her admitted and put her on antiobiotics and within two 
days the child was discharged fully cured. Four months later again the child 
got the same sickness. could not breathe, again my shameless grandmother told 
the mother and father to put ventos. They again got her admitted and within two 
days stay in the hospital the child reached home. Again five months to be 
precise the child aMy grgain got admitted in the hospital. My grandmother 
shouted at the parents but they took her to be a senile woman. My grandmother 
stopped telling the parents . after five and half years of this exercise the 
child was admitted this time .They had to remove the greasy mucus like yellow 
substance from the lungs and they kept the child for nearly ten days. first 
three days on oxygen. The child became weak and could not attend to school. The 
child was discharged but of an on they had to admit the child to remove the 
flem in the lungs.  think the child had developed Pleursy. I am not sure. and 
on 10th of June 2000 the child passed away. When my grandma visited them she 
told the parents  You killed your lovely child. My grandmother passed away. I 
still remember her remedy. I have not given any dose to my children from birth. 
Do you know that when BCG dose is given the child many times suffer from cold 
and fever ? Many people grumbled at me for not giving polio and other rubbish 
doses. My mother did not give us any of those and for last forty years I never 
got polio, cold or fever (that too once in blue moon)so too my children. Can 
dotor colaco speak on this 

RESPONSE:

Dear Ana Marie,

Sure!

I will speak on this after you clarify a few points for me, please.

While I am happy to speak about this topic at any venue, I prefer to be as 
fully informed as possible. Not doing so would make me an uninformed alleged 
expert on healthcare.

My queries:

1: What is Ventos?

Are you absolutely sure that
2: the child was fully cured after 2 days of antibiotics?

If you know
3: What was the stated cause of death of the child eg TB etc?

jc