Re: [Goanet] Hindutva Terrorism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- On Thu, 13/11/08, Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Goanet] Hindutva Terrorism > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Received: Thursday, 13 November, 2008, 3:57 PM > --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Gabriel de Figueiredo > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >The "retaliation" was just an excuse. Who > actually took responsibility >for the murder of the Hindu > swami? Who were then targetted? > > > > Here is a Reuters news story on the ongoing investigation, > which mentions the retaliatory nature of the riots, and > states who and how many have been arrested in connection > with the initial and subsequent crimes committed: > http://in.reuters.com/articlePrint?articleId=INIndia-35824220081006 > Thank you, Santosh, for the information. However, a cursory research on the net throws a rather confusing picture. As I said before, the Swami's murder was the spark (i.e. an excuse) that finally lit the fuse that was smouldering since last Christmas. Who really lit the fuse or ordered the lighting of the fuse will be known in due course. Let's see what further investigation by the authorities brings up. Cheers, Gabriel. Find your perfect match today at the new Yahoo!7 Dating. Get Started http://au.dating.yahoo.com/?cid=53151&pid=1012
Re: [Goanet] Hindutva Terrorism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Gabriel de Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >The "retaliation" was just an excuse. Who actually took responsibility >for >the murder of the Hindu swami? Who were then targetted? > Here is a Reuters news story on the ongoing investigation, which mentions the retaliatory nature of the riots, and states who and how many have been arrested in connection with the initial and subsequent crimes committed: http://in.reuters.com/articlePrint?articleId=INIndia-35824220081006 Here is a news report in Times of India describing the latest findings of the crime branch, including the identification of the mastermind involved in the initial killings: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-3607105,prtpage-1.cms I hope the perpetrators of every single crime committed in these horrible riots are brought to justice in a swift manner, and all organizations and groups involved in them are outlawed forthwith. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] Hindutva Terrorism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- On Thu, 13/11/08, Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Goanet] Hindutva Terrorism > To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" > Received: Thursday, 13 November, 2008, 12:08 AM > The riots started in retaliation for the murder of the > Hindu swami and his associates. Perhaps, this is not a very > important and vital point. The "retaliation" was just an excuse. Who actually took responsibility for the murder of the Hindu swami? Who were then targetted? In any case, if people can go on a rampage because someone was murdered, there would be anarchy everywhere. As Gandhi said, 'Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth' will make everyone blind and toothless ... Gabriel. Find your perfect match today at the new Yahoo!7 Dating. Get Started http://au.dating.yahoo.com/?cid=53151&pid=1012
[Goanet] Hindutva terrorism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:58:08 +0530 From: "Dr. U. G. Barad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I feel the rampant misuse of words secular and secularism has resulted in creating an unwanted anti-Hindu atmosphere in the country. > Mario observes: > Do you live in India? > Do you understand the difference between Hindus and Hindu-extremists like the members of RSS? > What anti-Hindu atmosphere are you talking about in India? By whom? Normal, tolerant, secular Hindus number in excess of 800 million in India, the last time I checked. They are the ones who have prevented the extremists from getting out of hand, for example, by rejecting the BJP party from gaining control of the national government. >
Re: [Goanet] Hindutva Terrorism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- On Wed, 11/12/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Further a very important and vital point in the Orissa > violence was that it was not a case of retaliation but pure > aggression. > The riots started in retaliation for the murder of the Hindu swami and his associates. Perhaps, this is not a very important and vital point. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] Hindutva Terrorism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Moderator, Kindly discard the earlier posting on this subject as one of the links was incomplete. Please post this one. Thanks. Regards, Marshall ' Everybody knows what an extremist response would be, whether it be Hindutva or Christianist. Of course, there are people who believe that the latter are better than the former, or vice versa. Also, the original comment belies the common experience that retaliation is the basis of most wars and judicial systems, irrespective of the religious affiliation of the war makers and juries.Cheers,Santosh The issue is do we condone or condemn all such violence. Or do we take the stance that it happens all the time, it is inevitable, and simply brush it off as we are not personally affected. Or do we attempt to light a candle in this darkness by adding our sane voice to drown the insane voices. Secondly, I make a distinction between Hindutva as an ideology similar to fascism and nazism as opposed to Hinduism as a religion. Hindutva is an ideology of comparitively recent origin having been founded sometime in the 1930's. The principles are clearly expounded in the books written by RSS Chief Golwalkar, 'We or our Nationhood Defined' and 'Bunch of Thoughts'. One can easily trace a pattern in the violence to the ideas propounded in these books. I am aware of the SC ruling on hindutva. This ruling was severely criticised by leading jurists. However, please read what Justice A N Verma who delivered the judgement had to say subsequently. http://www.hinduonnet.com/2003/02/06/stories/2003020603641100.htm Also a critique on Justice Verma http://www.hvk.org/articles/0402/142.html Further a very important and vital point in the Orissa violence was that it was not a case of retaliation but pure aggression. Regards Marshall -- Hyundai to launch the i20 in India. Catch the exclusive preview on ZigWheels.com http://www.zigwheels.com/b2cam/newsDetails.action?name=Emb11_20080731&path=/INDT/News/Emb11_20080731&page=1&pagecount=2&utm_source=indmail&utm_medium=footer&utm_content=tracking&utm_campaign=Nletter_07oct2008_ZW
[Goanet] Hindutva terrorism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is in reply to Message: 12, Dated: Tue, 11 Nov 2008, From:"Frederick \"FN\" Noronha", I read most of the messages of FN and that of other members on the above subject. After going through these postings it appears to me that there appears to be immense confusion in the so-called intellectual world due to the inadequate knowledge and ignorance or obliviousness of the connotations of the two words viz 'Hindu' and 'Dharma'. Another misconception about the basic concept is regarding Hindu culture. Hindu culture, is appreciative of, and not merely tolerant about plurality. It is not shaped by any foreign influences. It is the life and breadth of Hindus value-system. With this let me take the readers including FN to the starting point of all these misconceptions i.e. the rampant misuse of words: "Secular" and "Secularisms" which has resulted in creating an anti-Hindu atmosphere in the country. Before that we must know what's the exact meaning of the word 'secular'? I think, most will accept the dictionary meaning of what that word connotes, 'not connected with religion'. Now let's analyze what took place in India in the past. In the first place, why did the first Prime Minister of India, i.e., Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru wanted to reform the Hindus society alone in India? Is it because he thought that the identity and the characteristic centrality of this nation or state or country are inextricable linked with the Hindus society? Why did he not take even a small step towards, reforming the Muslim society or the Christian society in India? Was it due to the absence of a single blemish in those societies? When our Indian Constitution was passed, it did not contain the word 'secular' neither in the Preamble nor in any of its 378 Articles. The words 'secular' and 'socialist' were forced into the Preamble, during the extraordinary times of the infamous Emergency by Indira Gandhi in 1976. For all the intervening period of more than 26 years, what was our India like? Was it a theocratic state or a communal state or an atheist state? Why did the apostle of secularism Pandit Nehru, tolerate that lacuna for such a long period of fourteen years of his rule? Thereafter why did the by subsequent prime ministers of India keep quiet for additional 12 years? Supposing that we became enamored of the word 'secular' because of our contact with the Britishers during their 150 years rule or because of our association and appreciation of the British polity, why are not Pakistan and Bangladesh secular states? Is it because Pakistan and Bangladesh are Muslim-dominated, and therefore supposed to be theocratic and India being Hindu-dominated and therefore supposed to be secular, not only in word but in deed also, because prior to the end to 1976, there was no word 'secular' in our Constitution? Towards the end, I would like to ask, is Great Britain a secular state or not ? If it is a secular state why is it that no Catholic ever became the Prime Minister of that country? Leave aside the office of the executive head, why can no person with a Catholic linkage become the King or the Queen, a mere titular or at best a constitutional head? All British Prime Ministers, at least while in office, have professed Anglican (Protestant) faith. Disraeli, while born into a Jewish family, was babtised into the church of England at age 12 and Tony Blair waited till after he stood down from the post of prime minister to officially convert to Catholicism. We are conveniently trying to forget this surprising history. All these facts lead to a clear conclusion that England looks down upon all faiths other than Protestant Christianity. But Hinduism does not look down upon other faiths, as do Catholic Chiristianity or Islam, who assert that salvation can be attained only through their respective faith and not otherwise. I feel the rampant misuse of words secular and secularism has resulted in creating an unwanted anti-Hindu atmosphere in the country. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
Re: [Goanet] Hindutva terrorism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- On Mon, 11/10/08, Frederick "FN" Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Christianist is a term that obviously have different meanings to >different > people. Hindutva is very clear in what it stands > for. > Not true. Hindutva also has different meanings to different people. To Savarkar it meant Hinduness. Here is what the Supreme Court of India says about it: "no precise meaning can be ascribed to the terms 'Hindu', 'Hindutva' and 'Hinduism'; and no meaning in the abstract can confine it to the narrow limits of religion alone, excluding the content of Indian culture and heritage." "Ordinarily, Hindutva is understood as a way of life or a state of mind and is not to be equated with or understood as religious Hindu fundamentalism. A Hindu may embrace a non-Hindu religion without ceasing to be a Hindu and since the Hindu is disposed to think synthetically and to regard other forms of worship, strange gods and divergent doctrines as inadequate rather than wrong or objectionable, he tends to believe that the highest divine powers complement each other for the well-being of the world and mankind." Please see - http://www.answers.com/topic/hindutva You seem to believe that Hindutva is a political ideology, and deny that Christianism is a political ideology, even though the very dictionary you are fond of consulting clearly states it is so. Please see - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=christianism "2. Christianism Christianism is a political ideology derived from the conservative religious views of Christian fundamentalism. It holds Christianity is not only a religion, but also a political system that governs the legal, economic and social imperatives of the state." The title of this thread indicates that to some other people Hindutva is a form of terrorism. > > I've made my point... > It is unclear what point you have made. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] Hindutva terrorism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/11/11 Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The definition below is the definition of Christianist that I used to > compare it to Hindutva. According to this definition, Christianism > would be a political ideology, just like Hindutva and Islamism. > Here is an article that talks about the origins of the word "Christianist". > http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/15/magazine/15ONLANGUAGE.html > Please tell me how it differs from Hindutva. Semantics is an interesting field. William Safire has a point below [http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/15/magazine/15ONLANGUAGE.html] I think mixing up the political misuse of religion with the religion is distasteful. Whether it is the case with Hinduism, Christianity and Islam (I would also question Mario's use of Islamist, to suggest that those fighting a political battle with the West are merely following the tenets of Islam). Christianist is a term that obviously have different meanings to different people. Hindutva is very clear in what it stands for. The page you cite itself acknowledges this. I think it is unfair to drag in religions in a battle against bigotry. In any case, if I remain silence after this, it's not because you have convinced me, but because the other readers must be bored about beating this issue to death. I've made my point... QUOTE In 1883, W.H. Wynn wrote a homily that said ''Christianism -- if I may invent that term -- is but making a sun-picture of the love of God.'' He didn't invent the term, either. In the early 1800's, the painter Henry Fuseli wrote scornfully that ''Christianism was inimical to the progress of arts.'' And John Milton used it in 1649. Adding ist or ism to a word usually colors it negatively, as can be seen in secularist. In ''One Nation Under Therapy,'' Christina Hoff Sommers and Sally Satel coined therapism to mean ''the revolutionary idea that psychology can take the place of ethics and religion,'' which they believe undermines the American creed of ''self-reliance, stoicism, courage in the face of adversity and the valorization of excellence.'' Therapists (a neutral term -- indeed, masseurs like to upgrade their job description to massage therapist) won't like therapism, which is intended to be disparaging. As Christianist, with its evocation of Islamist, gains wider usage as an attack word on what used to be called the religious right, another suffix is being used in counterattack to derogate those who denounce church influence in politics. ''The Catholic scholar George Weigel calls this phenomenon 'Christophobia,''' the columnist Anne Applebaum wrote in The Washington Post. She noted that he borrowed the word from the American legal scholar, J.H.H. Weiler. The word was used by Weigel ''after being struck by the European Union's fierce resistance to any mention of the continent's Christian origins in the draft versions of the new, and still unratified, European constitution.'' Phobia, which means ''fear of,'' was doing fine as a medical term until recently. ''Phobias are irrational fears,'' says Elaine Rodino, a psychologist in Santa Monica, Calif. ''They are not just 'sort of fears'; they are full and intense and uncontrollable.'' END QUOTE FN
Re: [Goanet] Hindutva terrorism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- On Mon, 11/10/08, Frederick "FN" Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Opinionism. > Another made up definition of yours? > > You compare Hindutva with "Christianist". > > There are diverse definitions for "Christianist": > The definition below is the definition of Christianist that I used to compare it to Hindutva. According to this definition, Christianism would be a political ideology, just like Hindutva and Islamism. --- On Mon, 11/10/08, Frederick "FN" Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > christianist > A member of the Christian faith who seeks to use a religion > of peace and tolerance for political and personal gain. > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=christianist Here is an article that talks about the origins of the word "Christianist". http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/15/magazine/15ONLANGUAGE.html Please tell me how it differs from Hindutva. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] Hindutva terrorism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/11/10 Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > --- On Mon, 11/10/08, Frederick "FN" Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of course, the Science bit I picked up from your attitude:-) > > So you make up definitions as you go based on what you pick up from other > people's attitudes? How would you define journalism based on this attitude > of yours? Opinionism. >PS: I still think Hindutva is a political ideology (which attempts, so >far unsucessfully, to speak out in the name of a religion). Whereas >Hinduism, Christianity, Islam, etc are religions -- whatever may be >their perceived failings. Who claims that Hindutva is not a political ideology, and Hinduism, > Christianity, Islam, etc are not religions? > A quote from your earlier mail: > Your reply was not an appropriate reply to my question. > Everybody knows what an extremist response would be, > whether it be Hindutva or Christianist You compare Hindutva with "Christianist". There are diverse definitions for "Christianist": christianist A member of the Christian faith who seeks to use a religion of peace and tolerance for political and personal gain. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=christianist Christianism the religious tenets held by all Christians. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Christianism Christianism: * the belief that Christianity is superior to all other religions * prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a religion or person practicing a religion, other than Christianity, based on the belief that Christianity is superior to all other religions * the quest to establish global Christian domination in all areas of world religious and secular society Some (TheFreeDictionary.com) equate it with Christianity. The others equate it with a belief in the superiority of Christianity or prejudice, discrimination, antagonism. So, I'm confused about what exactly you're comparing. Last word to you. FN
Re: [Goanet] Hindutva terrorism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- On Mon, 11/10/08, Frederick "FN" Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of course, the Science bit I picked up from your attitude:-) > So you make up definitions as you go based on what you pick up from other people's attitudes? How would you define journalism based on this attitude of yours? > >PS: I still think Hindutva is a political ideology (which attempts, so >far >unsucessfully, to speak out in the name of a religion). Whereas >Hinduism, >Christianity, Islam, etc are religions -- whatever may be >their perceived >failings. > Who claims that Hindutva is not a political ideology, and Hinduism, Christianity, Islam, etc are not religions? Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] Hindutva terrorism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] In continuation with the discussion between Santosh and Fredrick, it needs to be clarified for those who are not aware, that Hindutva and Hinduism are not the same or synonymous. Hindutva is an ideology of the extreme right which is fashioned after the fascism of Mussolini and Nazism of Hitler. Whereas Hinduism is all inclusive and embracing, hindutva tends to divide people between 'we' and 'them'. The hindutvawadis in order to gain respect and acceptance of the wide peaceful majority try to project that they represent and speak for the majority. In order to understand the hindutva ideology, discerning readers should refer to the books 'We or our nation defined' by M S Golwalkar, former RSS chief as also ' Brotherhood in Saffron' and 'Bunch of thoughts'. This will give a keen insight into the mindset of the hindutvawadis and explain all the violence taking place against minorities. What should especially disturb peaceloving, liberal and secular minded hindus is the fact that they too are considered as enemies after the muslims, christians and communists. Recently there was an interesting article on how hinduism is being hijacked by hindutva. It bears reading once again. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Editorial/Opinion_Aping_each_other/articleshow/3670047.cms Regards, Marshall -- Hyundai to launch the i20 in India. Catch the exclusive preview on ZigWheels.com http://www.zigwheels.com/b2cam/newsDetails.action?name=Emb11_20080731&path=/INDT/News/Emb11_20080731&page=1&pagecount=2&utm_source=indmail&utm_medium=footer&utm_content=tracking&utm_campaign=Nletter_07oct2008_ZW
Re: [Goanet] Hindutva terrorism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course, the Science bit I picked up from your attitude :-) FN PS: I still think Hindutva is a political ideology (which attempts, so far unsucessfully, to speak out in the name of a religion). Whereas Hinduism, Christianity, Islam, etc are religions -- whatever may be their perceived failings. 2008/11/10 Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Frederick, I guess you had trouble understanding that I was getting at the > same thing - that fairness demands that a Christian response be compared > only with a Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist or some other mainstream non-Christian > response, not with an extremist Hindutva response. > > BTW, you provided dictionary definitions for Hindutva and Christianism, but > failed to mention how you got your definition of Science. > > Which dictionary says that Science is a monotheistic religion? -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490
Re: [Goanet] Hindutva terrorism
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Frederick "FN" Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Doc, if you wish to compare religions, they would be > Hindu and Christian. > > Hindutva and Christianist? > Frederick, I guess you had trouble understanding that I was getting at the same thing - that fairness demands that a Christian response be compared only with a Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist or some other mainstream non-Christian response, not with an extremist Hindutva response. BTW, you provided dictionary definitions for Hindutva and Christianism, but failed to mention how you got your definition of Science. Which dictionary says that Science is a monotheistic religion? Cheers, Santosh > > As far as " the belief that Christianity is superior > to all other > religions" goes, isn't it also called monotheism? > Isn't this a trait > shared among all monotheistic religions -- including > Atheism, Marxism > and Science (with a capital S)? >
Re: [Goanet] Hindutva terrorism
Hi Doc, if you wish to compare religions, they would be Hindu and Christian. Hindutva and Christianist? 2008/11/9 Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Everybody knows what an extremist response would be, whether it be > Hindutva or Christianist. Of course, there are people who believe that the OPENQUOTE Hindutva: * n. [Sanskrit] political strategy followed by the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and its allies for consolidating the "Hindu" vote bank behind them in elections * Sangh Parivar and its allies, such as Bajrang Dal & Shiv Sena - also known as the Hindutva Brigade http://www.vsubhash.com/die.asp?word=Hindutva christianist A member of the Christian faith who seeks to use a religion of peace and tolerance for political and personal gain. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=christianist Christianism the religious tenets held by all Christians. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Christianism Christianism: * the belief that Christianity is superior to all other religions * prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a religion or person practicing a religion, other than Christianity, based on the belief that Christianity is superior to all other religions * the quest to establish global Christian domination in all areas of world religious and secular society may also refer to: * Dominionism, political activism based on conservative Christian principles * Christendom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianism ENDQUOTE As far as " the belief that Christianity is superior to all other religions" goes, isn't it also called monotheism? Isn't this a trait shared among all monotheistic religions -- including Atheism, Marxism and Science (with a capital S)? FN
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--- On Sat, 11/8/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In an earlier posting when I had posted George Menezes' > article ' An Open Letter to L K Advani' with the > preface that it was a typical christian reaction to > violence, Santosh querried 'How are typical Hindu, > Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain, Parsi or other non-Christian > responses different from this?' > To which I replied that the hindutva response would be more > violence. > Your reply was not an appropriate reply to my question. Everybody knows what an extremist response would be, whether it be Hindutva or Christianist. Of course, there are people who believe that the latter are better than the former, or vice versa. Also, the original comment belies the common experience that retaliation is the basis of most wars and judicial systems, irrespective of the religious affiliation of the war makers and juries. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] Hindutva terrorism
In an earlier posting when I had posted George Menezes' article ' An Open Letter to L K Advani' with the preface that it was a typical christian reaction to violence, Santosh querried 'How are typical Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain, Parsi or other non-Christian responses different from this?' To which I replied that the hindutva response would be more violence. Here is a sample below. Quote:'"I don’t believe in the philosophy of turning the other cheek if someone slaps you. We must strike back...why can’t we have a blast for a blast?" Unquote Read on for complete article. http://communalism.blogspot.com/ Regards, Marshall -- Hyundai to launch the i20 in India. Catch the exclusive preview on ZigWheels.com http://www.zigwheels.com/b2cam/newsDetails.action?name=Emb11_20080731&path=/INDT/News/Emb11_20080731&page=1&pagecount=2&utm_source=indmail&utm_medium=footer&utm_content=tracking&utm_campaign=Nletter_07oct2008_ZW
[Goanet] Hindutva terrorism
Here are some new reports on hindutva terorism. One good thing about television is that it captures pictures and images which cannot be denied later or given a spin. Today they showed on NDTV, pictures of the sadhvi with the BJP President Rajnath Singh as well as with MP chief minister Shivraj Singh Chauhan. That's how close she was to the top BJP leadership. Wonder what would be the response of sangh parivar sympathisers to these happenings. http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080070057 http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080070006&ch=633605682156390131 http://timesnow.tv/Newsdtls.aspx?NewsID=19407 Regards, Marshall -- Hyundai to launch the i20 in India. Catch the exclusive preview on ZigWheels.com http://www.zigwheels.com/b2cam/newsDetails.action?name=Emb11_20080731&path=/INDT/News/Emb11_20080731&page=1&pagecount=2&utm_source=indmail&utm_medium=footer&utm_content=tracking&utm_campaign=Nletter_07oct2008_ZW
