[Goanet] Journalism......what Journalism
Here we go again. What consensus? What judgement? What facts? If this is supposed to be an attempt at "self-defence", it is weak if not practically non-existent! As they say, the jury is still out. Besides the vaunted skills in "media analysis" have gone by the board when just a few posts on goanet were involved compared to the reams written on Scarlet's death. And this characterisation shifts the blame to run-of-the-mill journos, away from FN himself. Neat work! Finally, are you calling goanet a "kangaroo court"? If so the "credit" is mostly yours, right? Clap...clap... clap.
Re: [Goanet] Journalism......what Journalism
It's very nice to see everyone sitting in judgement, and arriving at a "consensus", without the full knowledge of the facts. Before rushing in with your prognosis, please read the April 2008 issue of Goa Today, and the other reports put out on the issue by the Indo-Asian News Service. Also check http://groups.google.com/group/goajourno starting with the first post on or around February 23, 2008, alerting colleagues in the Goa media about the Scarlett Keeling death. The article in question, which you'll base your judgement on, was just a media-analysis piece. Was keen to see how your kangaroo court worked FN -- Sent via BlackBerry® while on the road... http://fn.goa-india.org
[Goanet] Journalism......what Journalism
[Sandeep Heble] Sure there's no point in flogging a dead horse (no pun intended)! My point was simply that journos slogging away at a thankless job in Goa may be looking up to people of the stature of FN. Hence much may be expected of the latter and they should not make elementary mistakes. But, I agree, we are all human and liable to goof up sometime or other. Pax vobiscum.
[Goanet] Journalism......what Journalism
Philip, I think you will agree that different people will view and evaluate Fredrick's column differently but, to end further discussions on this, we will grant it to you and Dr. Anand that your evaluations are perfectly on the dot and Fredrick is way off the mark. In any case, my last post was in no way meant to be a critique of his column. One swallow does not make a summer. The main thrust of my post was to simply to make it clear to Dr Anand that one post by one Goan journalist on one particular issue should not be taken up to pass judgments on the entire field of Goan Journalism. I am sure you too would agree that this would be extremely unfair to the vast legion of Goan journalists who put in great efforts day in and day out and who by and large seem to be doing a fairly good job. Nothing more and nothing less! I think the doctor got the point. Cheers Sandeep
[Goanet] Journalism...what journalism ?
1. [Sandeep Heble] Unless I am missing something, there is a disconnect between this observation and the one immediately following: 2. <**When, may I ask, have the Police performed their tasks andduties diligently when the victim has not been an influential personor a celebrity?Scarlette's case is not the first time the Police have goofed up orbungled and this certainly won't be the last.**> This seems to confirm that the "police made a hash of the case" the point which was blatantly overlooked in the Noronha column . 3. This taken with the next excerpt underlines the extent of the bungling in the Goa police force. It is clearly systemic and the Scarlet case is not an isolated one by any means. It is deeprooted and pervasive, spanning several administrations, not just the current one. 4. < I may be accused now of trying to paint the entire Police force withthe same tainted brush but 9 out of 10 would say pretty much the samething. Honesty, dedication and sincerity are words that just don'tseem to exist in the dictionaries of the Police force though **therewould be the few stray exceptions, Bosco George, the SP who handledthe Scarlette murder, being one of them.**> This seems to be an (inadvertent) attempt to whitewash the Scarlet case by implying that it is being handled by an upright police officer. The question is whether he was handling it since inception or it was handed over to him after bungling by his predecessor on this particular case.
[Goanet] Journalism...what journalism ?
Dr Anand Virgincar wrote on goanet: >>What I cannot understand , is how a freelancer claiming to be a Niz Goenkar can write the >>article below without realising the stark raving obvious fact that the reason the poor child's >>death desreved whatever media attention it got was because there was a blatantly obvious >>cover up by the current administration in Goa ? >>JC was on the dot when he said recently that Goan journalists have broken every rule of fair >>journalism To drag the entire Goan journalist fraternity and to paint them with the same brush because of one particular column written by one Goan journalist on one particular issue is both unfair and disappointing, to say the least. The author, to buttress his own point, also drags Dr Jose Colaco into this. Dr Colaco's opinions on Goan Journos and the reasons behind the same are well documented and known to many on this forum. They have a lot to do with 3 particular issues, a letter written by some Raul in a local daily several years back, another article on the Siddhis that appeared in another local daily and the collapse of some bridge in Daman that was accredited to the Portuguese. This author goes one step further and endorses Dr Colaco's observations on Goan Journalism based upon his own observations on just one single column, i.e. Fredrick Noronha's take on the Scarlette issue, ignoring the fact that Journalists too are human and being so are entitled to have their own independent opinions and perceptions, which we may agree at times and may differ on other days. My own take is that far from being off the mark, Fredrick has raised several pertinent points in his column. The Scarlette issue was indeed blown out of proportion and to suggest, as Dr Anand tries to do, that the publicity given to this sad death was because the Police made a hash of the initial investigations would be to fly in the face of facts. When, may I ask, have the Police performed their tasks and duties diligently when the victim has not been an influential person or a celebrity? Scarlette's case is not the first time the Police have goofed up or bungled and this certainly won't be the last. The rate of conviction of crime in Goa is abysmally poor and the Criminal Courts have on several occasions passed all kinds of strictures against the Police, for similar if not worse kinds of goof-ups and bunglings. The Police force in the State literally stinks. I may be accused now of trying to paint the entire Police force with the same tainted brush but 9 out of 10 would say pretty much the same thing. Honesty, dedication and sincerity are words that just don't seem to exist in the dictionaries of the Police force though there would be the few stray exceptions, Bosco George, the SP who handled the Scarlette murder, being one of them. Dr Anand is well within his rights to dissect and be critical of Fredrick's column but by endorsing Dr Colaco's stand on Goan journos I think he does go a bit overboard. He would do well to review his positions on that. Cheers Sandeep Heble Panjim-Goa
[Goanet] Journalism...what journalism ?
[Anand Virgincar] Hmmm. There does seem to be a glaring downplaying of the cover up and possible nexus between pols, cops etc. But this has to be systematically established first. Then we have to find out the extent of such a nexus both in time and space as far as Goa is concerned. THEN only will we be in a position to apportion blame as between the current administration and previous ones and ascertain who/what would fit the bill best in the short and long terms. Let's avoid the RFA syndrome.
[Goanet] Journalism...what journalism ?
Dear Goanetters, I can understand the Goan mainstream media missing the wood for the treesthey are economically controlled by the Goan political and business interests. I can even understand the British press, which is under huge pressure from the intense competetion , particularly by a certain big spender from down under. What I cannot understand , is how a freelancer claiming to be a Niz Goenkar can write the article below without realising the stark raving obvious fact that the reason the poor child's death desreved whatever media attention it got was because there was a blatantly obvious cover up by the current administration in Goa ? Or is it that for some Goan sons of the soil , keeping this unbelievably corrupt , inefficient , irresponsible and idiotic Congress government in power and keeping the clearly better solution out of power more important than the lives of innocent human beings ? JC was on the dot when he said recently that Goan journalists have broken every rule of fair journalism ( I am quoting from memory and am open to correction on that statement ) The "sensational" article by our fellow Goanetter : http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/sensationalism-media-competition-blew-up-goas-scarlett-murder- case_10034943.html warm and sincere regards, anand _ Win 100’s of Virgin Experience days with BigSnapSearch.com http://www.bigsnapsearch.com
