Re: [Goanet] Local businessman, 32, drowned at Miramar beach
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Gabriel de Figueiredo Sorry, I am not being uncharitable here. Any Goan worth his salt knows that going into those waves in this season, is suicidal. RESPONSE: It was December 31, 2007. The sun was going down on 2007 and I was at Miramar beach with the kiddies. The beach was very crowded and noisy. Half-a-dozen young men came from the water's edge carrying the body of a young man in a sheet. He had drowned a little while earlier. Another avoidable death, perhaps. JoeGoaUK was at the beach that day. - B
[Goanet] Local businessman, 32, drowned at Miramar beach
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com quote: RESPONSE: It was December 31, 2007. The sun was going down on 2007 and I was at Miramar beach with the kiddies. The beach was very crowded and noisy. Half-a-dozen young men came from the water's edge carrying the body of a young man in a sheet. He had drowned a little while earlier. Another avoidable death, perhaps. JoeGoaUK was at the beach that day. - B == And the the report with pics was posted here same evening Check this out Talking Photos: Last day, last Sunset, last fun, last journey.. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-January/153389.html One may also re-view this video Welcome to Goa but… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emU44OuShm8 joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Local businessman, 32, drowned at Miramar beach
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com I disagree and don't feel that we should bring in regional sentiments (any Goan worth his salt... a number of Indians) into a tragic matter like death. It could happen to anyone. Hindsight is perfect-vision, 20/20, as they say. It just takes a minute or two to take a life-threatening decision. May this happen to fewer people. What a waste of a productive life. And, in the meantime, may we have the wisdom to build those structures that minimise the needless waste of such lives! Condolences to the young man's family. It could have also been any of ours! FN 2009/8/18 Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au: Sorry, I am not being uncharitable here. Any Goan worth his salt knows that going into those waves in this season, is suicidal. Same with having had a drink and going into the waters, even in calmer seas. I've had a family friend die like that in the early sixties. FYI, a number of Indians have died here and in New Zealand by ignoring the posted signs. Danger - do not cross seems to be an invitation to some. -- FN +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 Konkani adages http://konkani-adages.notlong.com/ Medieval Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com/
Re: [Goanet] Local businessman, 32, drowned at Miramar beach
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Sorry, I am not being uncharitable here. Any Goan worth his salt knows that going into those waves in this season, is suicidal. Same with having had a drink and going into the waters, even in calmer seas. I've had a family friend die like that in the early sixties. FYI, a number of Indians have died here and in New Zealand by ignoring the posted signs. Danger - do not cross seems to be an invitation to some. http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/ice-collapse-australian-brothers-killed/1403277.aspx Ashish Miranda, 24, and Akshay Miranda, 22, of Melbourne, were crushed by ice after crossing safety barriers at the terminal face to take photos ... - Original Message From: Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न fredericknoro...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, 18 August, 2009 3:37:25 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Local businessman, 32, drowned at Miramar beach - BOOK RELEASE: Medieval Goa by Teotonio R. de Souza Will be re-released after 30 years on August 21, 2009 at 5:15pm at Goa Chambers of Commerce and Industry Hall, near Azad Maidan in Panjim, Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com - Aren't we being a tad uncharitable, possibly without knowing the facts? Wonder if we would have said the same if the unfortunate young man had been a relative of ours. FN 2009/8/17 Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au: Ignorance. And maybe alcohol-fuelled bravado, or the 'I know better' attitude. -- FN +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 Konkani adages http://konkani-adages.notlong.com/ Medieval Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com/ __ Find local businesses and services in your area with Yahoo!7 Local. Get started: http://local.yahoo.com.au
Re: [Goanet] Local businessman, 32, drowned at Miramar beach
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Rico, I am in perfect agreement with you with respect to condolences to the family. What I was answering was Joe's question: why more and more people venture into the sea at Miramar in the absence of lifeguards, and you took me out of context. What I am getting at is the attitude of youth, who needlessly put their lives at risk. Unfortunately, Without being regional, I do see, unfortunately, us brown-skins (and other Asians for that matter) taking unnecessary risks, perhaps in trying to imitate the more experienced people. Just today I saw a true-life TV episode on Sydney's beaches with three Asian men being rescued from the sea. I have been taught by my parents (and my father was a good swimmer in his days) to treat the sea with respect, and never take chances. It sometimes appears that most people who have never seen the sea think of it as a large swimming pool, not knowing it can be treacherous what with waves and creatures that it can harbour, like jellyfish. Now in this case, I understand the businessman took a kayak into the waves, without any safety gear. Now, even experienced white-water rafters wear floatation devices and other safety equipment, and it would be a foolhardy person who would go into rough seas without adequate protection. Apparently. going by the news, the friends told the police, “He would never wear a life jacket. When we insisted that he wear it before going kayaking, he would tease us and say that while we might be scared, he isn’t.” - now if that isn't bravado, I don't know what is. Even if there were life-guards, from my point of view, it would have been rather difficult to save the man without adequate means to do so (e.g. inflatable motor-craft) in, what appears to have been, a rip current (a rip is a strong current of water running out to sea - http://www.scienceofthesurf.com/SOSFact_Sheet_Rip.pdf). The structures you talk of is education. Instruct people to swim *well* in relatively calm waters before they venture out to sea, and teach them to repect the waves.Teach people what to do if they get ino difficulty (signs that a life-guard can recognise that they are in difficulty), the meaning of various flags, etc. And always have people to look out for you if you do venture into deeper waters, as life-guards may not always see you, especially if you suddenly disappear. http://www.safewatersports.co.uk/SwimmingintheSea.html I do hope you understand my perspective. Gabriel. PS I understand jellyfish are now pretty common aroung Goa's beaches. Carry some vinegar with you - can be useful for most jellyfish stings. http://www.avru.org/compendium/biogs/A71b.htm - Original Message From: Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न fredericknoro...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, 18 August, 2009 5:47:33 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Local businessman, 32, drowned at Miramar beach * G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com I disagree and don't feel that we should bring in regional sentiments (any Goan worth his salt... a number of Indians) into a tragic matter like death. It could happen to anyone. Hindsight is perfect-vision, 20/20, as they say. It just takes a minute or two to take a life-threatening decision. May this happen to fewer people. What a waste of a productive life. And, in the meantime, may we have the wisdom to build those structures that minimise the needless waste of such lives! Condolences to the young man's family. It could have also been any of ours! FN __ Find local businesses and services in your area with Yahoo!7 Local. Get started: http://local.yahoo.com.au
Re: [Goanet] Local businessman, 32, drowned at Miramar beach
- BOOK RELEASE: Medieval Goa by Teotonio R. de Souza Will be re-released after 30 years on August 21, 2009 at 5:15pm at Goa Chambers of Commerce and Industry Hall, near Azad Maidan in Panjim, Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com - Ignorance. And maybe alcohol-fuelled bravado, or the 'I know better' attitude. - Original Message From: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk To: goa...@goanet.org Cc: Parrikar Manohar bjp parri...@bjpgoa.in; parri...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, 17 August, 2009 7:35:06 AM Subject: [Goanet] Local businessman, 32, drowned at Miramar beach Can you believe it? Lifeguards are everywhere except Miramar beach? No wonder, why more and more people venture into the sea at Miramar __ Find local businesses and services in your area with Yahoo!7 Local. Get started: http://local.yahoo.com.au
Re: [Goanet] Local businessman, 32, drowned at Miramar beach
- BOOK RELEASE: Medieval Goa by Teotonio R. de Souza Will be re-released after 30 years on August 21, 2009 at 5:15pm at Goa Chambers of Commerce and Industry Hall, near Azad Maidan in Panjim, Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com - Aren't we being a tad uncharitable, possibly without knowing the facts? Wonder if we would have said the same if the unfortunate young man had been a relative of ours. FN 2009/8/17 Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au: Ignorance. And maybe alcohol-fuelled bravado, or the 'I know better' attitude. -- FN +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 Konkani adages http://konkani-adages.notlong.com/ Medieval Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com/
Re: [Goanet] Local businessman, 32, drowned at Miramar beach
Sometimes over confidence gets you. Any Goan would tell you, the sea around Goa isn't a safe place in the months from June through August - whether you have life guards on duty or not. Jim F Colva, Goa. -- Original message -- From: JoeGoaUk Can you believe it? Lifeguards are everywhere except Miramar beach? No wonder, why more and more people venture into the sea at Miramar My latest pics video on Miramar beach on I-Day serves as testimony
