[Goanet] Manohar Parrikar - Response to Cedrico

2007-11-10 Thread Vinay Natekar
From: Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Vodyadhar  wrote - 
But who is talking of BJP supporters or those who voted for them?
The point is the party itself. That is no different from what it
is in the rest of India. If they are different, let the BJP (Goa
version) give a public statement condemning Narendra Modi and
asking for action to be taken against all those responsible for
the Gujarat carnage.
 
Response - 
How conveniently are you forgetting  the fact  of 23  years back genocide of 
Sikhs which took place in November 1984 in which more than 4,000 Sikh men, 
women and children slaughtered by Congress hooligans. In Delhi alone, 2,733 
Sikhs were burned alive, butchered or beaten to death.
Women were raped while their terrified families pleaded for mercy, little or 
none of which was shown by the Congress flag-bearers. 
For three days and nights the killing and pillaging continued without the 
police, the civil administration and the Union Congress Government who was in 
power , which was then in direct charge of Delhi, lifting a finger in 
admonishment. It was the Congress cadres who were behind this genocide.
Despite the constitution of innumerable high-power committees, police 
investigation teams and commissions these are few small fries who have been 
booked; the real culprits are still eluding the call of justice. 
The reality is that there has been no political will to prosecute the culprits. 
Did  any Goa Congress leader condemn these killings ?
 
 
Vidyadhar wrote –
What is this your people and my people business? Here
precisely is the problem with the Sangh Parivar -- the inability
to think beyond communal identities.
 
Response -
You are grossly misinterpreting my sentence. My word ,”your people” meant 
people of your constituency. Don’t apply your own whimsical meanings to 
everything. I know Margao is a Hindu majority constituency. So there is no 
question of communal trail in my script.
 
Vinay

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Re: [Goanet] Manohar Parrikar - Response to Cedrico

2007-11-07 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil
 From: Vinay Natekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: [Goanet] Manohar Parrikar - Response to Cedrico

 Gujrat incident is a blot
 on Humanity. I condemn Narendra Modi and those who were
 responsible for the carnage be it either Godhra train incident
 or the riots that followed after that.  You can not compare
 Goan BJP supporters with those  Gujaratis. The people who are
 voting for BJP in Goa are always Secular and voted  for the
 stable and clean administration. Goan political scenario is
 totally different from rest of India. 

But who is talking of BJP supporters or those who voted for them?
The point is the party itself. That is no different from what it
is in the rest of India. If they are different, let the BJP (Goa
version) give a public statement condemning Narendra Modi and
asking for action to be taken against all those responsible for
the Gujarat carnage.

 I am in possessions of various documents that were ccd to
 porikar when he was Cm when Digamber kamat was running
 riot with several catholic families in Margao.
 
 Response It is your people who have re elected him from Margao
 Constituency.

What is this your people and my people business? Here
precisely is the problem with the Sangh Parivar -- the inability
to think beyond communal identities.

-- 
Question everything -- Karl Marx


[Goanet] Manohar Parrikar - Response to Cedrico

2007-11-04 Thread Vinay Natekar
Firstly, i debated long if i should stoop to your level in replying to 
non-entities like you. To me you dont count, i challenge you to have an 
indept knowledge of Goa's estwhile politics and political acumen to analyse 
the ground realities of politics, in Goa and the world over. I also challenge 
you to admit on this forum if you ever held any political post even in 
college level politics.
 
Response
Mr. Cedrico you are getting very personal here. I am not a politician neither 
contested any election. I just wanted to make it clear to you that  liberty of 
expressing your opinion does not meant saying  any  drivel on the domain  you 
are ignorant about sitting in Dubai. Your conceptions are only reflections  of 
prejudiced rhetoric  of  opportunist politicians who spread fallacious  rumors 
to create fear psychosis  for their political gains. Gujrat incident is a blot 
on Humanity. I condemn Narendra Modi and those who were responsible for the 
carnage be it either Godhra train incident or the riots that followed after 
that.  You can not compare Goan BJP supporters with those  Gujaratis. The 
people who are voting for BJP in Goa are always Secular and voted  for the 
stable and clean administration.
Goan political scenario is totally different from rest of India. We do not have 
history of poll violence except few stray incidents for which you can not blame 
a single party.
 
 
You are entitled to honour the people you think are saints and saviours, i am 
entitled to mine.By calling me a bluff...you think you gain immortality or 
martyer hood...maybe in the darbar of Porrikar!
 
I am a neutral political analyst. I criticize in the same vein a Digamber 
kamat and a Porrikar as i know they have the same communial virus that runs 
in their blood. The BJP is a blot on a secular India and tried its best to 
destroy Goa and do a Gujarat here. The result was the resounding slap the 
electorate gave the BJP at the recent hustings.
 
Response
Neutral analyst do not air their bias view against any selective political 
party.
Election results at a given time and place have no permanent immutable 
validity. Most of the times demagogues and despots successfully manage to 
manipulate the will of the people by using either muscle power  or  money 
earned by  corruption and scandalous means
Take my words a Party losing or winning elections does not make it good or bad. 
Gujarat have voted Modi by overwhelming majority and will repeat the feat in 
next elections too. It does not make the Gujarat leadership as right similarly 
Goan electorate rejecting Goa BJP unit in last elections does not make it bad 
either.
 
 
I am in possessions of various documents that were ccd to porikar when he was 
Cm when Digamber kamat was running riot with several catholic families in 
Margao.
 
Response
It is your people who have re elected him from Margao Constituency.
 
Leave that for another day. As long as Porrikar is associated with the RSS, 
and BJP...even if he changes his thick hide, nobody will believe him and to 
the Goan masses he is like the cat who told everyone about the sanyas it took 
at kashi, no sooner it saw a rat it pounced on it and devouvered it.
 
Response
The majority of MLAs from the current ruling party and their cronies  are not 
originally from Congress Party. This herd of  comrades have flocked together 
with one aim in common to heap the riches while sun shines.
Parrikar have always remained loyal to BJP ever since joining it come hell or 
high waters and not mortgaged his loyalty for the sake of opportunism.
 
I also pity you but actually people like you who chastise true Goan 
contemporary freedom fighters like Floriano and myself who are fighting for 
Goa's freedom from the clutches of communial and corrupt elements like your 
BJP...will go no where in life.
 
And please refrain in calling people names on this forum, least i will feel 
that you are nothing better than the someone in Goa who would abuse anyone 
for a quarter of feni or a some cheap liquor that your master could have 
afforded to make you drink!
 
You need to have some guts to call a spade a spade and write on GOANET, in 
the better interest of GOANS and GOA!
 
 
Response
You and your mentor Floriano better fight against corruption, nepotism and non 
performance by current Government because of lust and internal fighting. BJP is 
not in power now. Instead of digging dead from grave you  better  do something 
productive endeavor to have a check on malfunctioning of current Government if 
you do not trade yourself for bottle of imported drink which only the people 
from ruling party can afford to offer you.
 
 
Vinay

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