Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP -the greening of Goa
[1] Pandu Lampiao had written: "One remembers quotes from the clever Dr. Jack Straw, a former UK minister who famously REFUSED to TREAT patients with their head covered" [2] Upon prompting, he corrected his tail (tale) but only partially by stating: "True, I stand corrected. Mixed up the players; different devil, similar tail." COMMENT: Pandu Lampiao's 'tail' is not yet fully straight. Any doctor - in a democratic country - can rightfully refuse to see (treat) a non-established patient but NOT for the reason the Pandu has alluded to above. If the doctor did that, he would be hauled before the governing Medical Council and also the courts. The Pandu may also wish to think about this point: How many women, who (voluntarily or otherwise) cover their heads, are likely to seek medical help from a 'Dr. Jack'. jc --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP -the greening of Goa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Straw True, I stand corrected. Mixed up the players; different devil, similar tail. Head gear: its the days of an*nymous, loose-sec. Never be seen, just heard. http://anonops.blogspot.com/ On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:04 PM, J. Colaco < jc> wrote: > Pandu Lampiao wrote: "One remembers quotes from > the clever Dr. Jack Straw, a former UK minister who famously refused > to treat patients with their head covered" > > KHOMMENT: > > 1: I was about to ask IF there is a difference between a woman who > covered her head and a Goanet poster who covered his name (or is it > Pseudonym) but I will not ask. > > 2: However, I must ask: Fhu is this "Doktor Istraw" that Pandu is > talking about? From the little I know, the only Straw in the UK > Cabinet (thus far) is a lawyer. And while, in Goa, lawyers are also > addressed as 'Dotor', that does not make them qualified to treat (or > not) patients. > > jc --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP -the greening of Goa
Pandu Lampiao wrote: "One remembers quotes from the clever Dr. Jack Straw, a former UK minister who famously refused to treat patients with their head covered" KHOMMENT: 1: I was about to ask IF there is a difference between a woman who covered her head and a Goanet poster who covered his name (or is it Pseudonym) but I will not ask. 2: However, I must ask: Fhu is this "Doktor Istraw" that Pandu is talking about? From the little I know, the only Straw in the UK Cabinet (thus far) is a lawyer. And while, in Goa, lawyers are also addressed as 'Dotor', that does not make them qualified to treat (or not) patients. jc --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP -the greening of Goa
Dea Ms. Carvalho, we seem to be the only ones to notice. Well, liberal is good when communities understand and respect the definition of 'freedom'. Unfortunately, the 'new green' is very oppressive and freedom, is a word they never heard of. Or rather, the freedom is to do as they please in a land so blessed by nature, to over run your culture, to drive one in the corner till you can live and breath no mo. There is the lot that organizes the Vascu marathon (aai-hai, the lovely Gul Pang running tru Bina gets the back of my little brain fluttering) have this slogan...'beautifying Vascu'. Do these f*cks ever get out of their air conditioned cars or wot? This city is diseaseimagine, the first planned city on free fall!! Yes indeed, having lived here way before the P*rtuguese leftone has recently changed the lock on the front door. The front door has never been locked and there was a time when foxes and wild cats roamed the hill (and often raided the hen house)! The other Mrs. Carvalho may not have known but the area below Alto Brito (now known as Bina road) had families from Afgin*stan and a clan of pathans (one of them played for the fammed Vascu club)...and their festivities, their food are fresh in ones memory. They considered themselves local, they spoke Concani, they were part of the community. There was a welcome and openness in the way they went about their daily lives. Ones parents would be mortified if they heard one speaks a word against the 'green'. But this is a different lot, a lot that has no rules, not a sense of community, a culture of wrecking. Its the new 'green'. Something like the ghettos of Birmingham or for that matter, Rexdale in Toronto. Its 'we are here' so deal with the rut, our violence, on our terms, play by our rules. One remembers quotes from the clever Dr. Jack Straw, a former UK minister who famously refused to treat patients with their head covered and told the newcomers in publicyou are in the UK, deal with our culture or... We don't have a politician with a little sause ** ***lls to say this!! Different times, troubling times and everyone is fighting for a ticket, to make a quick buck. Then what? On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Carvalho wrote: > > Pandu lampioa wrote: > The 'greening' of Goa has reached a point of no return and what you > said in your post is right there for all to see. Nothing against any > community but a mass influx is unhealthy. > > > Dear Pandu, > If it comes as a surprise that fairly liberal people like you and me, turn > violently conservative and anti-migrant, it is because we have to live in > that hell-hole, wholesale brothel otherwise known as Vascu. By the time you > reach St Andrews Church the last vestige of its former glory standing against > the onslaught of mindless insanity, those of us who grew up in Salcete, fall > on us knees and pray to St. Andrews that such a horrific plague of > destruction never visits Salcete. Alas, Margao is already beset with a > similar plague. > > If anyone wants a look into Goa's future, I advise them like Pandu says, to > take a bus to Vascu and stare it squarely into its face. Incidentally, I > don't see any hope for the slumification of Goa being reversed. That door was > sealed the day Goa became part of India. We can only hope now that someone > will make a film of Goa's slums 50 years from now and we'll have Goans > writing paeans in the New Yorker telling us how wonderful and productive life > actually is in a slum like Goa-Darawi. If there is one thing Indians are > extraordinarily good at it is slummifying every city, town or living area > they set foot in. For proof, visit cities in London which are Indian > strongholds. > > Best, > selma --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP -the greening of Goa
Is that why no Goan is interested in working for SPECIAL STATUS FOR GOA and ultimately, when the slumifying India starts disintegrating, to make Goa an independent NATION?? All hands are up??? Cheers floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: "Carvalho" To: Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 3:18 PM Subject: [Goanet] Mathany and BJP -the greening of Goa Pandu lampioa wrote: The 'greening' of Goa has reached a point of no return and what you said in your post is right there for all to see. Nothing against any community but a mass influx is unhealthy. Dear Pandu, If anyone wants a look into Goa's future, I advise them like Pandu says, to take a bus to Vascu and stare it squarely into its face. Incidentally, I don't see any hope for the slumification of Goa being reversed. That door was sealed the day Goa became part of India. We can only hope now that someone will make a film of Goa's slums 50 years from now and we'll have Goans writing paeans in the New Yorker telling us how wonderful and productive life actually is in a slum like Goa-Darawi. If there is one thing Indians are extraordinarily good at it is slummifying every city, town or living area they set foot in. For proof, visit cities in London which are Indian strongholds. Best, selma --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Mathany and BJP -the greening of Goa
Pandu lampioa wrote: The 'greening' of Goa has reached a point of no return and what you said in your post is right there for all to see. Nothing against any community but a mass influx is unhealthy. Dear Pandu, If it comes as a surprise that fairly liberal people like you and me, turn violently conservative and anti-migrant, it is because we have to live in that hell-hole, wholesale brothel otherwise known as Vascu. By the time you reach St Andrews Church the last vestige of its former glory standing against the onslaught of mindless insanity, those of us who grew up in Salcete, fall on us knees and pray to St. Andrews that such a horrific plague of destruction never visits Salcete. Alas, Margao is already beset with a similar plague. My mother-in-law who arrived in Vascu about forty-five years ago remembers Vascu in its days of glory. The gaunkars had built their charming homes on Mangor hill so that they may leave the windows open and let in the fresh air blowing upwards. Today they've learnt to padlock those same windows even during the daytime to keep safe what is left of their gold crucifixes and their flailing dignity. Vascu, mind you was the first township in Goa to have proper sewage and the design of the town itself, what one can still decipher amidst the cones popping up everywhere for endless traffic diversions and the gaddos sprouting in every conceivable place, is so well planned it would put a small European city to same. The sewers however have long past their capacity to keep filth underground and the green that oozes out on good days is now so commonplace Vascukars have grown heavy lids and hairy nostrils which they can now automatically close like some better adapted mammals to deal with it. And all the while Mangor breathes heavy under the weight of expanding slums which now spread from one side of the airport road right down into the port city itself. On the other side of airport road are penthouses which sell for over 1 crore built without rhyme or reason and more specifically without proper planning, roads, drainage, sewage or garbage disposal. If anyone wants a look into Goa's future, I advise them like Pandu says, to take a bus to Vascu and stare it squarely into its face. Incidentally, I don't see any hope for the slumification of Goa being reversed. That door was sealed the day Goa became part of India. We can only hope now that someone will make a film of Goa's slums 50 years from now and we'll have Goans writing paeans in the New Yorker telling us how wonderful and productive life actually is in a slum like Goa-Darawi. If there is one thing Indians are extraordinarily good at it is slummifying every city, town or living area they set foot in. For proof, visit cities in London which are Indian strongholds. Best, selma --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
