Re: [Goanet] May be Rest in Darkness - Liberation from Evil

2009-07-15 Thread Gabe Menezes
2009/7/13 mgov...@sbcglobal.net


 Mario observes:

  The real fuss is about the 3 million innocent
 Vietnamese and Cambodians who were brutally massacred after the American
 Democrats forced a withdrawal from Vietnam and the confrontation with the
 spread of communism in S.E. Asia that their own party's Presidents had
 initiated and engaged in, just when the Vietcong were on their knees by the
 admission of their own commanding general.

 RESPONSE: Mon cheri, you can't have it both ways, what about the millions
 that died because of Bush's invasion. What about all the Christians who were
 forced to leave Iraq and what now about the desire to seek good oil
 contracts because so many Americans died in Iraqso it was about the oil
 then huh!


If you ask on the streets of Baghdad, which I have done, they concensus cry
is; come back Sadaam all is forgiven.

At least G.B. was magnamonous enough to admit there were no W.M.D.s whereas
you...enough said.

50 million Iraqis liberated? Go do Baghdad like I did and find out the
reality of things on the ground.



-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London.


[Goanet] May be Rest in Darkness - Liberation from Evil

2009-07-14 Thread mgoveia

Mervyn Lobo mervynalobo at yahoo.ca
Sat Jul 11 19:15:27 PDT 2009

I do not know what the fuss is about. 

Bob McNamara described himself as a war criminal.
Here is the link:

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Fog_of_War

I sure am glad he was in charge of the Bay of Pigs invasion. 
I am sure El Supreme Commandante is glad too.

If we live long enough, we will get to hear George Bush (43) uttering 
similar words.

Mario observes:

Those who have a contempt for freedom and democracy and consistently support 
and show sympathy for some of the worst totalitarian tyrants in the world, it 
may not be possible to grasp what the fuss is about.

The fuss started with the death of Bob McNamara, which led to a furious 
revisionist assault on his memory by the remnants of the old anti-war left with 
hopes of condemning his legacy even his very soul.  Ironically, the character 
assassins are those who have shown no compunction in condemning millions of 
innocent civilians to rot under brutal totalitarian regimes.

McNamara was simply one high level official while his political leaders and 
legislators were making the decisions on prosecuting wars.  There are some 
contemporaries who agree with him and others who don't.

The real fuss is about the 3 million innocent Vietnamese and Cambodians who 
were brutally massacred after the American Democrats forced a withdrawal from 
Vietnam and the confrontation with the spread of communism in S.E. Asia that 
their own party's Presidents had initiated and engaged in, just when the 
Vietcong were on their knees by the admission of their own commanding general.

If not for the anti-war wing who forced the politically motivated withdrawal, 
Vietnam and Cambodia could have been thriving free-market democracies today in 
the mold of S. Korea and Taiwan, instead of struggling socialist backwaters.

In addition, because Democrat John F. Kennedy failed to prosecute the Bay of 
Pigs military action against Fidel Castro as planned, millions of Cubans have 
been condemned to struggle under yet another failed and brutal socialist regime 
where political dissenters are routinely repressed, hounded, jailed or 
mercilessly executed.