Re: [Goanet] Mental Challenges and Tomato Plants

2008-06-27 Thread Roland Francis
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Dear JC,
Ha, you caught my one slip "mentally handicapped" and now I'll catch
you on yours "really mentally disabled" . Of course you can claim that
you were referring to those who are not, but need to be called as
such. That won't fly since if you drop off the word "really", you
still get the word "mentally disabled".

Also I can tell you that all these "politically correct" words don't
do a thing for those affected. My blind children are always telling me
they are embarrased when people struggle to find the politically
correct word to describe them (visually challenged). They tell me that
they are quite comforable with "blind". Like calling a spade a spade
huh?

And if gowing tomatoes does more for the disadvantaged than
alleviating poverty, does it have a similar effect on the unemployed
too? They were clubbed with the mentally "handicapped" by Gilbert.

Roland.



> == jc's response==
>
> Dear Roland,
>
> I wish you had not joined Gilbert by dys-calling these
> individuals,"mentally handicapped".
>
> BTW: Growing tomatoes (and other garden vegetables) is known to do
> more for the disavdantaged than mere 'alleviation of proverty'. Inter
> alia, it provides them with a sense of responsibility, a space for
> reflection, and the feeling of achievement when they see the fruit of
> their labour.
>
> All these contribute to their sense of purpose for living in this
> world where the really mentally disabled folks are the pompous ones
> who beat their chests and show off that "They are the Best".


Re: [Goanet] Mental Challenges and Tomato Plants

2008-06-26 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
[1] Gilbert Lawrence wrote: Likely these people (mostly unemployed and
mentally handicapped) have all the time on their hands to take good
care to make a productive tomato plant.

[2] Roland Francis replied: Encouraging mentally handicapped and
unemployed people to grow tomatoes in order to hone their growing
skills with a view to alleviating their poverty is an idea that must
surely be reflective of the bankruptcy of thought of some Americans.

== jc's response==

Dear Roland,

I wish you had not joined Gilbert by dys-calling these
individuals,"mentally handicapped".

BTW: Growing tomatoes (and other garden vegetables) is known to do
more for the disavdantaged than mere 'alleviation of proverty'. Inter
alia, it provides them with a sense of responsibility, a space for
reflection, and the feeling of achievement when they see the fruit of
their labour.

All these contribute to their sense of purpose for living in this
world where the really mentally disabled folks are the pompous ones
who beat their chests and show off that "They are the Best".

Perhaps those ones need some extra large pots to grow some extra
large-headed tomatoes.

jc


[Goanet] Mental Challenges and Tomato Plants

2008-06-26 Thread Roland Francis
The mindlessness of successive American Governments has never ceased
to amaze me. But now I am even more amazed to see that such
disconnected mental thought processes has permeated not only to the
American people but to some of those of Goan origin also.

My God ! Encouraging mentally handicapped and unemployed people to
grow tomatoes in order to hone their growing skills with a view to
alleviating their poverty is an idea that must surely be reflective of
the bankruptcy of thought of some Americans. "Those whom God wishes to
destroy, he makes mad first" would apply not to the mentally
challenged but to those that have such bizarre solutions for them.

Gilbert how about diverting all those billions of dollars your
Government is spending on futile wars and occupations in Iraq and
Afghanistan which would be more than sufficient to completely
eradicate poverty in your entire country and enough to provide free
quality education to those gangsters and drug dealers that crowd your
cities, so that they become productive members of society and
hopefully own enough land to grow some tomatoes.

Roland
416-453-3371

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Difficult situations make people innovative.  In our town, "Good Hope" that 
> provides food to the poor, this year is giving them a potted tomato plant.  I 
> think this is a great idea.  It teaches the poor the skill of growing, and 
> they stand to indiviudally benefit from, and the benefit is directly 
> propotinal to, their own efforts.  Likely these people (mostly unemployed and 
> mentally handicapped) have all the time on their hands to take good care to 
> make a productive tomato plant.
> Regards, GL