Re: [Goanet] MINING IN GOA SHOULD TAKE A BREAK

[floriano]

Dear Aires,

This what you have written aka said is the TRUTH, the whole TRUTH and 
nothing but the TRUTH


Thank you.

Most appreciated.

goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org

- Original Message - 
From: "Aires Rodrigues" 

To: "goanet" 
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:56 AM
Subject: [Goanet] MINING IN GOA SHOULD TAKE A BREAK


Scams and Scamsters have now become an integral part of India’s
polity. We now officially know of the hazardous mining that the common
man in many villages of Goa have been witnessing and suffering for
decades. The BJP, Congress, NCP and MGP have all been beneficiaries of
legal and illegal mining in one way or the other. The blatant loot and
plunder of Goa’s natural resources continued even as Manohar Parrikar
had the audacity to tell us that there was no illegal mining in the
State.

Sadly our justice delivery system works to the benefit of the law
breakers. It will take ages to prosecute and punish those who have
ransacked the state by this mining business. I personally feel that by
jailing the accused it will be a further unnecessary burden on the
State exchequer. In jail as State guests they would be fed by the tax
payer and we would find them conveniently cozing up in the
air-conditioned Intensive Care Unit at the Goa Medical College.

The mining companies and contractors who evaded paying their dues
should be heavily penalized. Government officers who blatantly
abdicated their responsibility by not enforcing the law should be
sacked. The Advocate Generals have a lot to explain on the flawed and
partisan legal advice they have been giving the government on the
mining issue.

Goa has had enough of mining. It has devastated a large part of our
once beautiful Goa. It would be now appropriate to put an end to all
mining for some years at least till this mountain of dust settles
down.

After the Shah Commission report the Chief Minister has currently
halted mining. But with so many of his Ministers and MLAs having
direct and indirect interests in the business it must be sleepless
nights for Mr. Manohar Parrikar who is fully aware that the Mining
lobby has the Power to make and break governments. So very soon for
these miners it will be business as usual. For the people of Goa it
will just be one more volte-face by the Chief Minister to add to his
string of politically convenient U turns we have seen over the last
six months. In Manohar Parrikar infact we have a chameleon on display
while Goa sadly changes and sinks for the worse.


Aires Rodrigues
T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat
Ribandar - Goa - 403006
Mobile: 9822684372 

[Goanet] Mining in Goa in German Press

[IGSG Goa]

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Dear reader,

Preparations for the 4th German Cultural Week in Goa (December 7 – 11,
2011) are almost finished. We will soon be able to send you the final
programme.

*The Oktoberfest and Bazar will be on Sunday, December 11. Open to all,
entry free.*



We are pleased to draw your attention to three articles which have recently
been published by the German and Goan press as well as to a TV series on
Vasco da Gama's Journey to India and a letter sent by the German citizen
Mr. H. Muster to the Indian Ambassador in Berlin.



*DEUTSCHE WELLE (Germany's National Broadcaster): Surface mining in Goa
holiday idyll*

Goa, the smallest state in India, is known as a vacation paradise. But now
things come to the iron ore industry has become. In surface mining, and
without regard to environmental damage.

Please find the complete article (in English) here:

Surface mining in Goa holiday
idyll



*DIE WELT (German Daily): 14-year-old German raped - Minister's son free*

An Indian minister's son who allegedly raped in Goa in 2008, a German
youth, is again at large. After the fact, he dipped a month as long.

Please find the complete article (in English) here:

14-year-old German raped - Minister's son
free



*HERALD (Goa) - Putzmeister: Leading by technology*

German company Putzmeister, based at Verna Industrial Estate in Goa, is
hoping to revolutionalise the Indian construction industry with their
concrete machines. An interview to managing director Michael
Schmid-Lindenmayer was published in the Business Section of the Goan daily
Herald: Please read the full article (in English) here:

HERALD Putzmeister: Leading by
technology



*NDR (German TV broadcaster): Vasco da Gama and Portugal's departure into
the unknown*

In July 1497 the Portuguese navigator Vasco da Gama departed from Lisbon to
one of the most adventurous voyages of world history. With four ships the
28-year-old captain wanted to find a sea route to India - on the eastern
route around Africa.

Please find more elaborate resumes (in English) and the link to the four
films (in German) here:

Vasco da Gama and Portugal's departure into the unknown




*LETTER of the German citizen Mr. H. Muster to the Indian Ambassador in
Berlin*

In his letter (in German) Mr. Muster focuses on three subjects. He
complains that it is difficult for tourists to obtain visas for India
especially for longer periods. He also says that many tourists would like
to come to India two or even three times a year, but that this is almost
impossible because of the two month's gap between visas.

The second subject of his letter are Goa's waste and waste water problems.
Mr. Muster compares the "rich state of Goa" to the clean and neat town of
Sirsi/Karnataka where roads are extremely well maintained and digs along
the roads drain the surface water - to the contrary of what he observes in
Goa. In the end Mr Muster complains about Goan taxis and tucktuck not
having meters and thus tourists being cheated.

Mr Muster ends his letter with the sentence: It is due to Goa that the very
positive image of India is turned to be a negative one.

Mr. Muster's letter is accompanied by articles on the matter from the Goan
press (in English)

Please find the letter (in German) and the press articles (in English) here:

LETTER of the German citizen Mr. H. Muster to the Indian Ambassador in
Berlin 



Kind regards

IGSG

i...@igsg.org

Mobile: 9763365050

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Lieber Leser, liebe Leserin,

es geht mit schnellen Schritten auf die 4. Deutsche Kulturwoche in Goa (7.
– 11. Dezember 2011) zu. Das endgültige Programm werden wir Ihnen bald
zusenden.

*Den Termin für das Oktoberfest mit Bazar können Sie sich schon vormerken:
Sonntag, 11. Dezember. Eintritt frei.*



Heute möchten wir Sie auf drei Artikel hinweisen, die kürzlich in der
Presse in Deutschland bzw. Goa veröffentlicht wurden, sowie auf eine
NDR-Filmserie über Vasco da Gamas Weg nach Indien und einen Brief von Herrn
H. Muster an den indischen Botschafter in Berlin.



*DW ONLINE Tagebau im Urlaubsidyll Goa*

[Goanet] MINING IN GOA: VOICE HEARD IN LONDON,U.K VEDANTA

[Gerald Fernandes]

 CONGRATULATIONS! OBRIGAD! The action by activist/s at the Vedanta meeting in 
U.K will go down in Goan  her/history as the international  bugle call against 
the wanton destruction of Goa by the mining industry.We are certain that caring 
 international tourists will question whether their money should go to the Goan 
Exchequer which does not protect the environment. Lets make things happen. Lets 
organise instead of agonising. 
 
Lets begin to hasten the end of unregulated mining. Lets loosen the 
stranglehold of the Mining lobby on the Govt. of Goa.
 
LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC OF INDIA!
 
Gerry

[Goanet] Mining in Goa

[Vivian A. DSouza]

Thanks Carmen Miranda for the comments about mining in Goa.  Indeed, we Goans 
are too susegad for our own good.  Mining is taking place mostly in the 
hinterland of Goa.  But slowly it is creeping closer and closer to habitated 
areas, and by the time we wake up, the damage will have been done.
One has to visit some of the areas devastated by mining to realize the horrific 
impact it is having on our environment.  Last month, I was returning by bus 
from 
Belgaum, and was shell shocked to see the main
Highway via Ponda, blocked for several kilometers, with Mining trucks filled 
with ore headed towards the coast and empty Mining trucks headed in the 
opposite 
direction. leaving no room for buses and cars.
There must have been several thousand huge trucks (no exaggeration).
Traffic was at a standstill, and it took us 4 hours instead of a few minutes to 
cover the span that was blocked with mining trucks.
The roads have been devastated.  I pity the people living in those areas.
The mining companies are minting money, and the Government is getting royalties 
from mining, so nobody cares about the poor citizens.
Anyone who dares to voice his protest is set upon by Goondas.

I guess we Goans are inebriated and living in a drunken stupor, not worried 
about our close neighbors.

Re: [Goanet] mining in Goa - the insolence and dare

[rajendra kakodkar]

Dear FN,
 
Yes, Policy makers in Delhi are serious of pleasing their master at 10, Janpath.
They would do little for public good unless forced to.
The increase in export duty from 5% to 20% is not because people wanted it.
It is because steel lobby wanted it to be 30%. They threatened to increase 
steel prices.
Thereby making infrastructure development less viable and making inflation look 
more serious. Rollback will depend on the size of suit case miners can send to 
10 Janpath.
 
Goa's problems on mining front are largely because mines ministry has one 
single 
incubent for far too long 12 years. Digu was put there by Sardinha and miners 
ensured that he was kept there whether Parrikar or Rane was CM. Need new blood, 
new thinking to be introduced in mines ministry.
 
Rajendra
 
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 Frederick Noronha  wrote:
Carmen and all working on this issue: Congrats for the headway made...
the impact is showing. At the end of the day, different people and
groups will use and advocate diverse approaches. What works is what
matters. FN
PS: Do you think New Delhi will roll back the fact that mining ore
from Goa is now a bit costlier? Will the local lobbies succeed, or is
some policy-maker serious?

Re: [Goanet] mining in Goa - the insolence and dare

[Frederick Noronha]

Carmen and all working on this issue: Congrats for the headway made...
the impact is showing. At the end of the day, different people and
groups will use and advocate diverse approaches. What works is what
matters. FN

PS: Do you think New Delhi will roll back the fact that mining ore
from Goa is now a bit costlier? Will the local lobbies succeed, or is
some policy-maker serious?

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490

[Goanet] mining in Goa - the insolence and dare

[Carmen Miranda]

Soter!! Your resistance to understand the struggle against mining in Goa is
astonishing!

It would be really nice if you had taken the trouble to find out a little
bit more about what we are trying to do regarding the mining issue ,
before you make the wrong assumptions and try to make me look like a fool in
this platform.

You are lucky that I believe in creating awareness about this crucial issue
in Goa.

Therefore let me point out to you that just because we managed to get the
moratorium for the new mining leases, which by itself was indeed crucial and
an achievement,
it does not mean we are not fighting the established and so called legal
mines and illegal mines in Goa - on the contrary ! We are indeed trying
extremely hard
to close down the entire mining industry in Goa, but that cannot be done
overnight. Any idiot would understand that!

In any case, it is not a question of understanding politics, but a question
of taking into consideration the few thousand people who are employed by
this
industry at the moment. You have to be realistic, find alternatives,
think strategically and work on it in every way possible. We are after all
fighting very powerful
 and rootless people who have the entire government under their control. For
every practical purpose they are the government! That has not stopped me and
others
from fighting them and confronting them. At the end of the day I may not
achieve much, but no one can say I have not tried.

Furthermore, if you knew the real significance of fighting and winning
against the insignificant Sheikh Mukthar (according to you)  you would be
now busy congratulating
the Adivasis from Caurem instead of wasting your time picking on me.

Let me make it very clear that first of all there is no such thing as
"insignificant legal or illegal miner". The damage they cause is always
significant and often irreversible.

You might be well versed in local politics, but I and everyone else I
am working with in Goa are not spring chickens and naive ignorant idiots .
We are realistic and are
working on this issue  systematically in every way we possibly can and
relentlessly. Politics are not above everything in this world, and
especially not above
Goa's environment. I will continue to fight for it despite all the local
politics which is in practice just corruption, not real politics.

Moreover, the breakdown of law and order in Goa has nothing to do with the
fact that we got the moratorium, which is something we can use to try and
stop
new mines from starting by taking them to Supreme Court if necessary. I know
that for the likes of Timblo even  the Supreme Court means nothing...but we
can try.
Bottom line is we have to be vigilant all the time and fight the existing
system and status quo and the moratorium is  a good barrier albeit temporary
as is the direct action taken by the affected people form Caurem. A
tremendous example of people power against the government corruption and
incompetence.

Of course the ultimate and ideal solution is revolution, but meanwhile

Jai Ram! Ram Yes! INDEED!




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Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:21:16 +0530
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To: 
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Carmen wrote:Yes Soter , you got the wrong impression as usual! A year
ago (not a
couple of months ago)  we managed to get a moratorium on new mining leases
in Goa and that is a cause to celebrate. There are already 110 so called
 legal mining operations, and if we did not get the moratorium there would
be another 130 extra mines operating in Goa by now! So yes, it is Jai Jairam
Ramesh Ho indeed!

The problem of illegal mining which is another problem altogether, needs to
be resolved  by Goa government and not central government.  When there is a
situation of  a total breakdown of law and order, and when the minister's
themselves and the police  are involved in illegal activities including
mining, than the only solution is revolution.

I hope my message now is quite clear!Soter replies:The message is not yet
clear Carmen. For those well versed with political gimmicks do not bite
anything and everything like the gullible Goemkar.A Moratorium on future
mining leases is taken as great achievement when you yourself admit about a
breakdown of law and order? So continue raping the hills as far and wide as
you can get with the 110 existing leases as it is all politically
stretchable to 130 in a lawless Goa.Attack some insignificant Sheikh Mukthar
and proclaim success while the other sharks continue their trade. Jai Ram!
Ram Yesh!



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[Goanet] mining in Goa - the insolence and dare

[SOTER]

Carmen wrote:Yes Soter , you got the wrong impression as usual! A year 
ago (not a

couple of months ago)  we managed to get a moratorium on new mining leases
in Goa and that is a cause to celebrate. There are already 110 so called
legal mining operations, and if we did not get the moratorium there would
be another 130 extra mines operating in Goa by now! So yes, it is Jai Jairam
Ramesh Ho indeed!

The problem of illegal mining which is another problem altogether, needs to
be resolved  by Goa government and not central government.  When there is a
situation of  a total breakdown of law and order, and when the minister's
themselves and the police  are involved in illegal activities including
mining, than the only solution is revolution.

I hope my message now is quite clear!Soter replies:The message is not yet 
clear Carmen. For those well versed with political gimmicks do not bite 
anything and everything like the gullible Goemkar.A Moratorium on future 
mining leases is taken as great achievement when you yourself admit about a 
breakdown of law and order? So continue raping the hills as far and wide as 
you can get with the 110 existing leases as it is all politically 
stretchable to 130 in a lawless Goa.Attack some insignificant Sheikh Mukthar 
and proclaim success while the other sharks continue their trade. Jai Ram! 
Ram Yesh! 

[Goanet] mining in Goa - the insolence and dare

[Carmen Miranda]

Yes Soter , you got the wrong impression as usual! A year ago (not a
couple of months ago)  we managed to get a moratorium on new mining leases
in Goa and that is a cause to celebrate. There are already 110 so called
 legal mining operations, and if we did not get the moratorium there would
be another 130 extra mines operating in Goa by now! So yes, it is Jai Jairam
Ramesh Ho indeed!

The problem of illegal mining which is another problem altogether, needs to
be resolved  by Goa government and not central government.  When there is a
situation of  a total breakdown of law and order, and when the minister's
themselves and the police  are involved in illegal activities including
mining, than the only solution is revolution.

I hope my message now is quite clear!

Carmen

Re: [Goanet] mining in Goa - the insolence and dare

[SOTER]

Carmen writes:
"The text below illustrates the increasing insolence and dare by the mine
owners in Goa who act illegally not only with impunity but also with police
protection."

Comment:
Are re re!
Is there still a mining problem in Goa?
A couple of months ago, if I correctly remember, anti-mining stalwarts were 
celebrating success.

It was 'Jai (Ram Ramesh) Ho!'
It gave one the impression that the miners were supposed to pack up and jump 
in Mandovi.

Chaka Chak?
Did I get the wrong impression?

-Soter

[Goanet] mining in Goa - the insolence and dare

[Carmen Miranda]

This is a scandal and an outrage! The information below,  was sent to me by
two of my activist friends in Goa A. Prabhudesai and  T. Jorge,  and I would
like to share it with everyone in goanet, as I am  in search of urgent help
and advise .

The text below illustrates the increasing insolence and dare by the mine
owners in Goa who act illegally not only with impunity but also with police
protection.
If I was in Goa I would immediately go and confront the Police Chief in
Quepem to start with,  and file a complaint against their behaviour at the
appropriate authorities, given that it is not the first time that they side
with the criminals (miners) in that area of Goa.

Can someone in Goa please help, and kindly suggest what can be done to bring
some law and order and compliance with High Court orders by the miners and
the police in Goa?

Carmen Miranda

Date: Monday, 28 February, 2011, 3:14 PM
>
> Caurem, Quepem- Goa
> 28 February 2011
>
> In a bizarre turn of events for the villagers of Caurem,
> Quepem taluka, an illegal mine at Devapan Dongor (Devapan
> literally means God's Sacred Grove) was restarted today
> under police protection, much to the shock of the residents
> of this predominantly tribal village.
>
> The Xec Salim mine has been operating in the heart of
> Caurem for three years, in total violation of various
> conditions imposed by the clearances issued by various
> authorities. Some villagers and Goa Foundation had
> petitioned the Hon'ble High Court before the commencement of
> the mine stating that the mine cannot be permitted since the
> data used to obtain the permissions was fraudulent, but the
> case is dragging for three years now. Other frustrated
> villagers started studying the legal documents and
> discovered in September 2010 that the mine had been
> operating without Consent to Operate under the Air Act since
> 1st January 2010. In the meanwhile, the Panjim Bench of the
> Hon'ble Bombay High Court had passed Orders on 20th
> September 2010 indicating that the Court was under the
> impression that the mine is not operational since January
> 2010, while large scale illegal extraction of ore from the
> sacred hill was carried out for most of the period! Only
> after tireless correspondence by the villagers giving evidence
> of massive violation of conditions and laws, the mine was
> forced to close down in November 2010. The mine has already
> caused serious destruction of the water resources of this
> village and endangered the very existence of Karka River, a
> tributary of the Kushawati River. The tribal and other
> villagers have been complaining to all authorities about the
> loss of their Forest Rights, rise in respiratory diseases,
> destruction of their cultivated lands and forests, reduction
> in water flow of their springs and the desecration of their
> sacred grove, but to no avail.
>
>
> Four villagers, Nilesh Gaonkar, Tulsidas Velip, Chandrakant
> Devidas and Satyavan Velip were summoned today morning to
> the Quepem Police Station for enquiry related to Section 149
> of the CrPC, which threatens to take away the Freedom of
> these villagers to defend their Rights. The summons were
> responded to by 80 villagers, including many women, agitated
> by the fact that conscientious, upright neighbours were
> being summoned to the police station. The shock and
> indignation of the villagers turned to disbelief and a sense
> of betrayal on learning that the mining company had
> restarted their mining activities under police protection,
> while they were at the police station.


>

>

[Goanet] Mining in Goa -- effects on people's human rights

[Aloysius D'Souza]

Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 00:17:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Gomes 
To: Goanet Org 
*Subject: [Goanet] Human Rights and Mining*

*

*Nandkumar Kamat wanted to know if Human Rights could be used against
mining?for people displacement and other endemic problems.There are too many
NGOs piecemeal doing the same thing and? consultation/coordination between
them?will bring better results. A Laser cuts better than ordinary light! I
spoke to the Director of Human Rights Law Network? IN GOA regarding?this
and?I understand there are already Human Rights cases in progress.?Please
contact KRISHNENDU 9921875200?. They have an office above Goan Observer
office in Kampal,Panaji. Hope this info helps..JEG

[Goanet] Mining in Goa - It is ECOCIDE

[Roland Francis]

---
Sign the Petition requesting The Honble Minister of State for Environment
 and Forests (I/C) to maintain the moratorium on issuing further
 environmental clearances for mining activities in Goa

  http://goanvoice.org.uk/miningpetition.php
---

A concept of the law as reported in the latest Outlook magazine is currently
being pursued in the UK by the famous Richard Dawkins and Christopher
Hitchens. See the link  
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?265070.  - it makes for interesting
reading. 
 
With regard to an extension of this concept, the following paragraph would
indicate relevance to Goa if the international courts take cognizance. It
would then only be a matter of time before international warrants are
applied for an issued for the big fish responsible for the mining disaster
happening in Goa. Imagine Digamber Kamat and his scofflaw companions  along
with prominent mine-owners being put inside international prisons!
 
Higgins gives some examples of ecocide: the tar sands mining in Alberta, the
Pacific garbage patch, the pollution of the Niger Delta by oil companies(10
 ). She points out that ecocide is
rarely a crime of intent, but in most cases an incidental consequence of
other policies. Company directors or politicians could be prosecuted
individually(11
 ), but instead of being fined they would be charged
for the restoration of the natural systems they've damaged. The purpose of
criminalising ecocide is to raise the costs of trashing the planet to the
point at which it ceases to be worthwhile. This is the obvious outcome of a
wider understanding of legal equality: why should private property be
protected while the common wealth of humanity is not?
 
Roland Francis