Re: [Goanet] No rationality whatsoever
A rather silly reply from the "voice of truth and reason" ... So you too have started on the bootlicking business - keep it up. As to Times of India report, they don't say who or what colour the attackers were, do they? Do they know there are all types in Australia now, not only white? Do they know of issues with Lebanese? Sudanese? Somalians? Maoris? Pacific Islanders? No? Why not? - Original Message From: Mario Goveia To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Saturday, 27 June, 2009 1:09:50 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] No rationality whatsoever Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:30:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Gabriel de Figueiredo Well, there *were* "checks and balances" in place pre-Dec 61. Mario observes: Hey, Gabriel, Everyone knows that "checks and balances" throughout India can be unbalanced by some well placed checks, preferably for Pounds or DMs or $. Before Dec 1961, the balance in Goa depended on how good a bootlicker one was, as I'm sure any freedom fighter will readily confirm. So, after the checks and balances that the colonial dictators had imposed to subjugate the natives in Goa were removed after 1961, it looks like you decided to take your potlis and migrate to a place where Indians are being routinely beaten up. Good choice, Gabriel:-)) I hope no one mistakes you for an Indian student. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/Indians-Abroad/Indian-student-attacked-in-Melbourne/articleshow/4652254.cms Excerpt: A 24-year-old Indian student from Gujarat was attacked by a group of men here, the latest in a spate of racial assaults targeting the community members in Australia. Hardik Bipinbhai Patel, who hails from Surat, was attacked by three people while he was about to enter his car here last night. [end of excerpt] Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Re: [Goanet] No rationality whatsoever
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:30:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Gabriel de Figueiredo Well, there *were* "checks and balances" in place pre-Dec 61. Mario observes: Hey, Gabriel, Everyone knows that "checks and balances" throughout India can be unbalanced by some well placed checks, preferably for Pounds or DMs or $. Before Dec 1961, the balance in Goa depended on how good a bootlicker one was, as I'm sure any freedom fighter will readily confirm. So, after the checks and balances that the colonial dictators had imposed to subjugate the natives in Goa were removed after 1961, it looks like you decided to take your potlis and migrate to a place where Indians are being routinely beaten up. Good choice, Gabriel:-)) I hope no one mistakes you for an Indian student. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/Indians-Abroad/Indian-student-attacked-in-Melbourne/articleshow/4652254.cms Excerpt: A 24-year-old Indian student from Gujarat was attacked by a group of men here, the latest in a spate of racial assaults targeting the community members in Australia. Hardik Bipinbhai Patel, who hails from Surat, was attacked by three people while he was about to enter his car here last night. [end of excerpt]
Re: [Goanet] No rationality whatsoever
Well, there *were* "checks and balances" in place pre-Dec 61. That is why, there is a big gaping open space (now called the children's park) in Panjim, the space between what was the Municipal Garden and the row of buildings comprising Singbal's Book House - JohnPaul building. Funny isn't it? Margao, Mapuca and even Quepem have a proper municipal building, but not Panjim. Ever wondered why? That particular Children's park, where I used to play soccer in the 60s (there was practically nothing there then) was the site of the original Municipal Building. Because it had grown too small to house the ever-growing army of civil servants, it was brought down, and a new construction had commenced, using the new-fangled cement concrete (new fangled for the Goa of the late 50s). It appears that the engineers / builders got mixtures wrong or whatever, and the building came crashing down midway during its construction. The chief engineer was imprisoned for his lack of due care (or so I understand). Then of course the Indian Army came marching in before new plans could be set up, and Panjim was minus a Municipal building, and is so 'til today. This was the story I got from my father. Frederico, Alfred & others could correct me on this story. Cheers, Gabriel. - Original Message From: Romeo Ferns To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Thursday, 25 June, 2009 6:04:27 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] No rationality whatsoever In response to Dr. Ferdinandos email. I agree with him that the quality of construction of govt projects is poor resulting in failure within a short span of time. When I was talking to a builder in Goa, he blatantly told me that they use substandard materials on govt projects because they want the construction to fail. The reason being that due to huge kickbacks at every level there is very little money left to use good quality materials, This is mainly due to lact of control and accountability on the part of the contractor and the consultant. If there was a strict law that penalises such faulty constructions all through the chain of architects, consultants and contractors with heavy penaltiesm including suspension of license and or jail termsm then may be things will change. But who will bell the cat.?? Godfrey Rasquinha UAE Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Re: [Goanet] No rationality whatsoever
In response to Dr. Ferdinandos email. I agree with him that the quality of construction of govt projects is poor resulting in failure within a short span of time. When I was talking to a builder in Goa, he blatantly told me that they use substandard materials on govt projects because they want the construction to fail. The reason being that due to huge kickbacks at every level there is very little money left to use good quality materials, This is mainly due to lact of control and accountability on the part of the contractor and the consultant. If there was a strict law that penalises such faulty constructions all through the chain of architects, consultants and contractors with heavy penaltiesm including suspension of license and or jail termsm then may be things will change. But who will bell the cat.?? Godfrey Rasquinha UAE - Original Message From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão To: goa...@goanet.org; i...@goanet.org Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 5:09:35 PM Subject: [Goanet] No rationality whatsoever It is quite heartening to read that a Freedom fighter on ‘Revolution day’ has finally publicly criticised the state of affairs prevailing in Goa today in respect of corruption, Law & order and Civic sense; and admitting that gone are the days when life and property were much safer, a sign that at least some are in touch with reality. Whereas their President is still having paranoid delusions and even a sneeze sounding like Portuguese will cause a ‘stress reaction’ in him. Take the issue of Basilica de Bom Jesus; admitting the labourers and material is very much Goan, is the architecture, engineering, dedication and sincerity Goan? Or Indian? How many structure built in their so called post “Liberation” of Goa period could even withstand a couple of decades? The Mandovi and Zuari bridges, the Goa Medical Complex; just to name a few, are perfect examples of how constructions are undertaken by Goan governing bodies. “Liberty” does not mean a right to make irrational statements. Nor does it give a right to do whatever one wants by inconveniencing others. It gives you a right to express and discuss your school of thoughts in a rational and civilised manner. Which means, if you are not rational or civilised, you do not deserve this liberty in midst of civilisation. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/india/windows/windowslive/
[Goanet] No rationality whatsoever
It is quite heartening to read that a Freedom fighter on ‘Revolution day’ has finally publicly criticised the state of affairs prevailing in Goa today in respect of corruption, Law & order and Civic sense; and admitting that gone are the days when life and property were much safer, a sign that at least some are in touch with reality. Whereas their President is still having paranoid delusions and even a sneeze sounding like Portuguese will cause a ‘stress reaction’ in him. Take the issue of Basilica de Bom Jesus; admitting the labourers and material is very much Goan, is the architecture, engineering, dedication and sincerity Goan? Or Indian? How many structure built in their so called post “Liberation” of Goa period could even withstand a couple of decades? The Mandovi and Zuari bridges, the Goa Medical Complex; just to name a few, are perfect examples of how constructions are undertaken by Goan governing bodies. “Liberty” does not mean a right to make irrational statements. Nor does it give a right to do whatever one wants by inconveniencing others. It gives you a right to express and discuss your school of thoughts in a rational and civilised manner. Which means, if you are not rational or civilised, you do not deserve this liberty in midst of civilisation. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/india/windows/windowslive/
