[Goanet] Non-Resident Goans

[Eugene Correia]

In his column today in Gomantak, Dr. Jaime Rangel has hit out at
non-resident Goans (or over rather overseas Goans) for having "poki
patrat". Though he says there are exceptions, he largely blames these Goas
of suffering from verbal diarrhea.
Though specific people are not mentioned, nor even their names, it hard to
say if the whole diaspora community suffers from what is described by Dr.
Rangel (by the way, is the author a medical docto?0
There are indeed Goans who, on a visit to Goa, boosted about their
lifestyles in their adopted countries. I have met many recent immigrants,
and they obviously feel that living in their new homes has been better.
As usual, there are exceptions who think they would be better living in Goa.
Swindon, as I know from many people, is a mixed bag. Some Goans have made
good there, while some are struggling. The case may be true in other
countries too where Goans have settled.


Eugene

Re: [Goanet] NON RESIDENT GOANS EXPECT ACTION & NOT MORE CONVENTIONS

[Bosco D]

-Original Message-
From: Mervyn Lobo


Rest assured that I had not heard of Faleiro till he decided to
recognize Goans who had distinguished themselves overseas with
awards.


RESPONSE:  Why am I not surprised. :-)


When the first convention started, the current NRI Commissioner
publicly threw out two people who were attending the convention.


RESPONSE: The first convention was organized by Aires Rodrigues in Dec 
2000. How could the current NRI Commissioner throw people out who were 
attending the convention.


This was one of the better conventions and it was here that three papers 
were presented:


Santosh Helekar's Kindling the spirit of inquiry in the New Millenium

Dilip R. Sanvordeker's Goan heritage and its influence on child 
development in the Western soceity


Teotonio R. de Souza's GOAN IDENTITY : One, many or none

So please be forthcoming with accurate information related to your 
assertions above.



The video is on You-Tube. Hey! I would not be surprised if you
suggested that they too must have had prior issues with Faleiro.


RESPONSE: I would rather read a report on the issue from a neutral 
observer than go along with anything on YouTube. I believe JoeGoaUK 
provided good reports from the front row of the convention.




The NRI Commissioner then went on to arrest Aires at the convention.


RESPONSE: I believe only Aires and you claim Aires was arrested at a 
Goan convention. I do not recollect any news reports concurring with 
your assertion.




Do you see a pattern here?


RESPONSE: I do. Its called distortion. So how about some facts for a 
change, eh!!


This personal vendetta...let it go..

- B

Re: [Goanet] NON RESIDENT GOANS EXPECT ACTION & NOT MORE CONVENTIONS

[Mervyn Lobo]

Bosco D wrote:
> RESPONSE: Considering your past public altercations with Eduardo Faleiro and 
>his 
> office here on Goanet I am not surprised your query has gone unanswered.
> Similarly, the origins of Aires' personal vendetta against Eduardo Faleiro 
>stem from 
> the former's ejection from the 2007 Goan convention held in Goa. Perhaps the 
> issues 
> between the two gentlemen predates that convention.


Bosco,
Rest assured that I had not heard of Faleiro till he decided to recognize Goans 
who had 
distinguished themselves overseas with awards. When I pointed out that one 
person was
inaccurately described, the office of the NRI sent a request to the Indian 
Consulate and 
got a confirmation that the information I provided was correct.


Instead of the NRI Office correcting the information on the award winner, they 
started to 
make fools of themselves.


When the first convention started, the current NRI Commissioner publicly threw 
out  two 
people who were attending the convention. The video is on You-Tube. Hey! I 
would not
be surprised if you suggested that they too must have had prior issues with 
Faleiro.


The NRI Commissioner then went on to arrest Aires at the convention.


Do you see a pattern here?


Mervyn1844Lobo

Re: [Goanet] NON RESIDENT GOANS EXPECT ACTION & NOT MORE CONVENTIONS

[Bosco D]

-Original Message-

From: Mervyn Lobo

> Lastly, a few weeks ago someone from the NRI office responded to
> your post here. They are paying attention to what you expose. You may
> have noticed I sent in a query to the person who responded to your
> post. That query, like so many others before, has gone answered.

RESPONSE: Considering your past public altercations with Eduardo Faleiro 
and his office here on Goanet I am not surprised your query has gone 
unanswered.


Similarly, the origins of Aires' personal vendetta against Eduardo 
Faleiro stem from the former's ejection from the 2007 Goan convention 
held in Goa. Perhaps the issues between the two gentlemen predates that 
convention.


> I sincerely hope that other Goans have not faced this level of
> service.

In the recent past, Tony deSa and Jose Gama Pais have provided their 
positive experiences with the office of the NRI Commissioner's office. 
Surely there are many more such experience. I am yet to read of any 
negative experiences albeit its unlikely all experiences have been positive.


However, there have been posts here on Goanet of issues the NRI 
Commissioner's office have been unable to bring to a positive resolution 
for the concerned Goenkar. Having said that I think its common knowledge 
that government departments the world over cannot address all issues 
raised by their citizens all the time.


I think we have far too many expectations sometimes conflicting with 
each others interests. We are human.


I believe the answers to your first two questions have been posted here 
on Goanet, in the past.


- Bosco

Re: [Goanet] NON RESIDENT GOANS EXPECT ACTION & NOT MORE CONVENTIONS

[Mervyn Lobo]

Aires Rodrigues wrote:
> There are many former politicians in Goa who just can’s stop living at

> the State expense. Mr. Eduardo Faleiro is one of them. They just
> scramble for a position so that they can enjoy the perks and
> privileges that come with the job. It is very evident that the affairs
> at the office of the NRI Commissioner lack accountability and
> transparency. It is always Eduardo Faleiro’s way ‘or the Highway’. So
> many good officers have refused to work under him.  Perhaps the
> Comptroller and Auditor General of India (CAG) should scrutinize the
> affairs of the NRI cell over the last five years.
-



Aires Rodrigues,
As a non-resident Indian, the questions I have are: 

1) Who does the NRI commissioner report to? 
2) Is he appointed for a term or is it for life?
3) Is there a system for valuating the work done by those currently
working for the office or have all NRI's to remain silent regardless 
of their satisfaction with the office officials? 


Needless to say, I have several objections to the way the office operates 
but it seems that there is no avenue where I can lodge in my concerns.


As an small example, it seems strange that even after six years, the NRI 
Commissioner refuses to use well established forums such as 
Goanet to reach overseas Goans. The NRI office could save the Govt 
of India a lot of money by doing so as the people who attend the 
conventions are already connected here. 


Lastly, a few weeks ago someone from the NRI office responded to
your post here. They are paying attention to what you expose. You may 
have noticed I sent in a query to the person who responded to your post.
That query, like so many others before, has gone answered. 


I sincerely hope that other Goans have not faced this level of service.

Mervyn Lobo

[Goanet] NON RESIDENT GOANS EXPECT ACTION & NOT MORE

[Tony de Sa]

Dear Ole Xac,

If Aires was turfed out of the Convention it must have been for his
transgressions. But that cannot be called slanderous.

FYI, I have taken the liberty to provide you with a free dictionary meaning
of the word slanderous, seeing as you live in Macau and are slightly
handicapped with the Angreji of Goanet. Next time, I will try to post in
Mandarin, or perhaps Cantonese for your convenience.

PS We are living in a Democracy but, repeat, but you are not unless the
Democracy you refer to is the kind purveyed by the Peoples Republic of
China.



   1. *Law*. Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's
   reputation.
   2. A false and malicious statement or report about someone.


Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/slander#ixzz1Xef5Qxyb

The eviction of Aires from the convention in 2007 is more slanderous than
his 'allegations'. Are we living in a democracy? Carmen Miranda was about to
be bombed out from the London Convention because she spoke out.
?
BC
-- 
"Tony de Sa"  < tonydesa at gmail dot com>

[Goanet] NON RESIDENT GOANS EXPECT ACTION & NOT MORE

[Jose Da Gama Pais]

On 10 September 2011 02:31, Aires Rodrigues 
wrote:

So a war on corruption by the Government of Goa could be the starting
point in laying the red carpet for NRGs; The modern NRGs are far more
professional, skilled, articulate, motivated, caring and affluent than
the previous generation; other States of India, politicians have their
fingers in every pie, and nothing runs professionally or free from
political interference.

COMMENT:

a: I do NOT believe that Aires Rodrigues has done any scientific study
to be in a position to comment on what NRGs expect and don't expect.

b: I have heard good things (very good things) about Mr. Eduardo
Faleiro's office.

c: I personally know that Mr. Eduardo Faleiro is a decent and a very
honorable man.
jc

*My Personal Experience:*
**
I went to renew my passport (was my 6th one) here at the Asst. High
commission in Mombasa
and it suddenly turned out to be an ordeal.
My Birth Certificate name "Antonio Jose Dos Milagres Da Gama Pais" but for
many years right from
High School I use "Jose Da Gama Pais" for all my day to day activities and
much more.

In All my previous passports I have both the names reflected (the full name
and the abriged version)
as I know how much trouble it can be if there is a problem with a name.

Unfortunately to my Bad Luck both the consular officers here in Mombasa seem
to be from Bihar and have
no clue about long names etc. and no amount of explanation would make them
understand what it meant
to have either one eliminated. rather one was just a abridged version of my
original name.
To make matters worse the Asst. High commissioner Mr S. K. Ghosh was also
extremely unhelpful.

Very Dejected, I turned on the the net and wrote to one and all.
The High Commission in Nairobi
The External affairs ministry, Delhi
The NRI Cell, Goa
and any email address I could lay my hands on.

I CAN STATE TO ONE AND ALL: THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED WERE THE NRI
CELL, GOA.
AND VICE ADMIRAL JOHN D' SILVA AND MR KAMAT PERSONALLY HANDLED MY CASE TO
ITS LOGICAL
END WHICH TOOK MORE THAN ONE YEAR.

I am in all praise for them since they also are very promt in answering any
email they receive.

Knowing the bureaucracy plus the diplomatic immunity etc. No one was giving
me an answer.
Nairobi was not even responding.

I can clearly say that the NRI CELL is very friendly and has assisted a lot
of people like me.

and without this Cell a lot of people like in my situation would be in a lot
of Hardships.
I can clearly say a lot of Govt. Officer's and Govt Servants feel they are
above law. and THE WORD "SERVICE"
they forget easily.

JDGP

[Goanet] NON RESIDENT GOANS EXPECT ACTION & NOT MORE

[Bernado Colaco]

The eviction of Aires from the convention in 2007 is more slanderous than his 
'allegations'. Are we living in a democracy? Carmen Miranda was about to be 
bombed out from the London Convention because she spoke out.
 
BC
 
With regard to Aires Rodrigues tirade against the person and office of the N
R I Commissioner (which I also received as an unsolicited private post), I
would like to point out that there have been sweeping statements made
without proof.

Re: [Goanet] NON RESIDENT GOANS EXPECT ACTION & NOT MORE CONVENTIONS

[J. Colaco < jc>]

On 10 September 2011 02:31, Aires Rodrigues  wrote:

So a war on corruption by the Government of Goa could be the starting
point in laying the red carpet for NRGs; The modern NRGs are far more
professional, skilled, articulate, motivated, caring and affluent than
the previous generation; other States of India, politicians have their
fingers in every pie, and nothing runs professionally or free from
political interference.

COMMENT:

a: I do NOT believe that Aires Rodrigues has done any scientific study
to be in a position to comment on what NRGs expect and don't expect.

b: I have heard good things (very good things) about Mr. Eduardo
Faleiro's office.

c: I personally know that Mr. Eduardo Faleiro is a decent and a very
honorable man.

d: The statement from his office wrt Aires Rodrigues' was 90% appreciated here.

e: The 'personal' bit about Aires having availed of accomodation in
Delhi was not only a cheap low-blow but also demeaning to Mr. Eduardo
Faleiro's personal standing. I found it offensive to my own senses.
IMHO, it had no place in that statement.

f: Having known Aires for some time, I am disappointed by his
recurrent 'disordeiro' tactics. Boorishness is the total opposite of
honorable behaviour. It is, perhaps, a survival technique.

g: As all the facts of the 'Kantak' matter are not available to me, I
cannot comment on it save to say that Aires, in all likelihood, is
right that there is something very smelly in Ponnje, and it is NOT the
pee by the river front or the bangde drying out in the vicinity.

On a personal note: I have seen - at close range - boorish, disorderly
behaviour used as a means to an end. I watched my Dad deal with this
Mavali behaviour of others, with grace and patience. I commend him for
that. Early in life, he taught me a lesson: It is OK to make a point
and stand up for it. However, in the sum-total, it is
counterproductive to behave like a Mavali. Besides, one does not let
others determine one's own behaviour.

I wish the 'learned' Goans and other educated persons would stop
behaving like Mavalis. There is, I know, a more civilized way of
dealing with issues. Leave the Foul language, Lies,
Misrepresentations, Gas and Disorderly Behaviour to the uncouth; One
can still say what one has to say without immitating the uncouth.

jc

[Goanet] NON RESIDENT GOANS EXPECT ACTION & NOT MORE CONVENTIONS

[Aires Rodrigues]

We all know the issues that concern our fellow Goans living in other
states across India and overseas. Over the years there have been so
many Goan Conventions that have deliberated thread bare issues
concerning Goa and related to Non-Resident Goans. There has been
enough of talking and posturing.  What we now need is some action on
the part of the government to redress the concerns and grievances of
Goans living outside Goa.

After years of service outside Goa or abroad many Non Resident Goans
(NRG) long to settle in the land of their birth. But for many reasons
they get disheartened and give up. Many Goans feel the urge to
contribute towards shaping the future of Goa but the authorities must
encourage them to return and invest their skills and savings in the
land of their roots. But the high level of corruption in Goa is
something every NRG detests.  So a war on corruption by the Government
of Goa could be the starting point in laying the red carpet for NRGs.

In March 2006 Mr. Eduardo Faleiro got himself appointed as Goa’s
Commissioner for NRI Affairs with cabinet status. Why was there a need
to drain the State exchequer with a cabinet status? By virtue of his
cabinet status Mr. Faleiro now has 11 staff at his disposal.  These
include four peons and a driver who work at his residence in Raia. The
Government of Goa is also paying the salary of one Mr. Amit Sharma who
is Mr. Faleiro’s clerk based at Delhi. Besides the 11 staff that are
employed by Mr. Faleiro, the Director of NRI Affairs, Mr. Ulhas Kamat
(a post officially yet not created) and his two clerks are also being
paid by the State treasury. There is no doubt that Goa needs a NRG
(non-resident Goan) cell to act as an interface to resolve the
grievances of the NRG’s across the world. An efficient Director with
two or three dynamic and pro-active staff is all that was needed.

The 2007 Goan Convention organized by Mr. Eduardo Faleiro at a 5 star
hotel at Dona Paula cost the tax year almost Rs 40 lakhs.  As a
registered delegate at that Convention I did attempt to raise the
issue of the Regional plan and illegal mining. Mr. Faleiro however
summoned the police and asked me to leave which I did after seeking a
refund of the delegate fee I had paid. I felt that the convention
needed to deliberate the anti-Goa, anti-people and an anti-environment
Regional Plan. I was of the opinion that the non resident Goans should
be concerned about the destruction of the fragile ecosystem in the
green belt surrounding our urban areas that was slowly turning into a
concrete jungle. It was my concern that the new Regional Plan would
open the floodgates of uncontrolled migration into Goa from the rest
of India and that Goans would literally end up a dying breed. But Mr.
Faleiro acted very high-handedly and gagged any further debate.

Mr. Eduardo Faleiro has held Goan Conventions in Lisbon, Toronto,
Oman, Kuwait and this year the feast was at London. Mr. Faleiro owes
us an explanation as to what concrete benefit these State sponsored
conventions have yielded besides being an astronomical burden to the
Goan taxpayer.

It is time the Goa government realizes that some concrete positive
action and not more extravagant Goan conventions is the need of the
hour. There is no point draining the state exchequer by way of these
farcical conventions with no clear agenda and only merry making at
public cost. Whether the bill is footed by the State, Central
Government or the High Commissions overseas, it all takes a toll on
the tax payer. Goa cannot afford this hospitality. These
State-sponsored fiestas by way of Goan Conventions cannot continue
forever. There is no need to hold these annual conclaves. That money
needs to be spent to make Goa a better place to live in.

The modern NRGs are far more professional, skilled, articulate,
motivated, caring and affluent than the previous generation. They have
an empathy towards Goa and regard it more than just another holiday
destination. These sentiments have to be tapped by the Government with
the aim of seeking mutual benefit. All too often the Government is out
to exploit and fleece them. The bureaucratic processes endemic to
Indian methodology puts off many Non Residents from investing locally.

NRG’s also feel that the prospects of a good education in Goa for
their children are bleak and that is something the Government ought to
focus on. Good hospitals and quality professional educational
institutions are something Goa so dearly needs. Overall, if Goa’s
infrastructure is improved this will motivate many NRGs to come back
and set up shop in the place that is so dear to them. But like in
other States of India, politicians have their fingers in every pie,
and nothing runs professionally or free from political interference.

In recent years many Goan politicians have made overseas trips,
ostensibly to study projects abroad. It was expected that they would
bring home some ideas to improve things here. Unfortunately, these
trips at the taxpa

[Goanet] Non Resident Goans - PEN revolution

[Arwin Mesquita]

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  http://www.GOANET.org 
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Happy New Year Twenty-Ten

---

 Non Resident Goans - PEN
revolution
There is a famous saying “The Pen is mightier than the sword”. Non Resident
Goans (NRG’s) like Rajan Parrikar, Freddy Fernandes, Mario Rodrigues, Rick
Fernandes & others, write frequently to the Goan Newspapers, on saving Goa &
its identity. However, time is running out and we need more impact; More
NRG’s must, at least write frequently, to the local Goan media.
Many NRG’s are skeptical that letters have any impact, so let me argue the
same:
(1) Many activists have told me that NRG letters not shape public opinion
but also inspire these activists to carry on their fight for Goa, against
the more powerful & well financed destructive lobbies, backed by a corrupt
government. These activists at least need our moral support; which I must
say, does work wonders!!
(2) Vested Interests spread false propaganda. The key to Saving Goa is
mobilizing Goans via awareness. As more people write on facts & solutions,
Goans will be better informed & more confident, to go for the Change!!
(3) Regular writing will undoubtedly fuel a VERY STRONG UNSTOPPABLE MOMENTUM
amongst Goans, to rise & speak/act.
(4) Surely lack of interest from Goans (particularly NRG’s) can de-motivate
Activists in Goa.
(5) Minimum 30% of Goans are outside Goa, exposed to various new ideas &
best practices around the Globe; can’t we contribute something back to Goa?
(6) Writing could be your first step to getting involved with the Goan
cause; rather than doing absolutely nothing.
(7) I firmly believe in the famous saying "All that is necessary for evil to
succeed is that good men do nothing - EDMUNDE BURKE".

Many Goans are quite successful overseas; please “NEVER FORGET WHERE YOU
CAME FROM”; you now have a Golden Opportunity in your one lifetime, to give
back & help your people/home, when they need you the most!! The choice is
yours; allow Goa that you know to die or do something to save it!! I believe
that with increasing number of Goans joining the effort, the hope of saving
Goa & its identity will only increase!!

Arwin Mesquita (Abu Dhabi, UAE)

-- 
Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/

Please also see below:
1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/
2. "Rape of Goa" : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/
3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/
4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO:
http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html
5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/
6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim
7. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686
8. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/

Re: [Goanet] Non Resident Goans

[Frederick Noronha]

2009/11/12 lyrawmn :
> The Government of Goa's message and inducements are unmistakable:
> Leave Goa, women and men.
> Toil, but send home to Goa the fruits of your sweat.
> We give your children scholarships and subsidies; we will offer specializeded 
> training and placement for you to find work outside Goa.
> Just send home your money.
> Instead of retaining and investing in the workforce by job creation at home.
> And directing educational aid and opportunities to children and families of 
> resident Goans where it is needed.
> To increase the living standard and prosperity of all resident Goans for 
> present and future generations.

Dear I. Nunes,

The alternative interpretation could be:

The Government of Goa has no single coherent message, or even a
comprehensive understanding of the situation.
It is willing to pander to the migration-virus that Goans have long
suffered from.
It is unable to take up the more difficult tasks -- of building local
talent, boosting creativity (Samir's recent points are valid) -- and
instead opts to take the easy way out.
Besides, one arm of the Goa government doesn't know (or cxare about)
what the other is doing. Education being imparted is quite out of sync
with the kinds of jobs available. And so on. The NRI study probably
reflects more the perspective of the current NRI Commissioner, rather
than that of any any present or past chief minister or Cabinet.
It may be not fair to blame anyone for encouraging migration, but it
might be apt to say that 'planning' in Goa means just riding any wave
that comes one's way -- whether it's the unpredicted pharma boom,
charter tourism (despite its problems) and so on.
After the NRI debate, the activist-priest Fr Bismark was making the
point about Goa "promoting migration". My protest was that (i) we
Goans -- specially Catholic Goans -- seem to have a migration-virus
which cannot be fought till we migrate (ii) it's all well for returned
Goenkars, ex-migrants themselves, to critique the process of
out-migration!

> Who elected these bozos?

Where were you bozos when we bozos elected these bozos under a bozo
electoral system which you presume is meant to serve the interest of
the common(wo)man? :-)

> One more thing:
> Is Goa really more expensive than say Mumbai (with one of the costliest sq. 
> footage space, on par with Hong Kong and Tokyo) or even Bangalore?
> best,
> I. Nunes

I was not talking real estate; nor do I have precise figures to back
up this point. But take the price of a humble rice-plate and you'll
probably agree with me. The fish-curry-rice which I paid Rs 5 for in
1987 today costs Rs 40! Markets in Goa are costlier than in many other
locations too... Maybe others could add or counter this point of view.
FN
-- 
Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490
Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism

Re: [Goanet] Non Resident Goans

[lyrawmn]

I agree with FN.  
However at a 6.3% contribution to Goa's GDP [> 3% India] remittances are a cash 
cow for the politicians.
I am particularly disturbed by the recommendations delineated by the Goa 
Migration Survey 2008 sponsors.
 
The Government of Goa's message and inducements are unmistakable: 
Leave Goa, women and men. 
Toil, but send home to Goa the fruits of your sweat.  
We give your children scholarships and subsidies; we will offer specializeded 
training and placement for you to find work outside Goa.  
Just send home your money.
 
Instead of retaining and investing in the workforce by job creation at home. 
And directing educational aid and opportunities to children and families of 
resident Goans where it is needed.
To increase the living standard and prosperity of all resident Goans for 
present and future generations.
 
Who elected these bozos?
 
One more thing:
Is Goa really more expensive than say Mumbai (with one of the costliest sq. 
footage space, on par with Hong Kong and Tokyo) or even Bangalore? 
best,
I. Nunes

---On Wed, 11/11/09, Frederick Noronha  wrote:


Are remittances of expats to be seen as something unquestionably
positive, negative or a mixed blessing?

Given that the extra money pouring into Goa leads to conspicuous
consumption, a disinclination to earn one's own livelihood, fuells
real-estate boom, contributes to inflation and making Goa one of the
costliest non-metros (and even compared to the metros!) in India, and
acts as a magnet for in-migration which we all lambast, isn't it time
that we reassessed this issue?

FN

2009/11/11 Antonio Menezes :
> >From Goa's economic point of view , the remittances to Goa from the first
> group are
> overwhelmingly greater than remittances  to Goa from the second group.

-- 
Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490
Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism

[Goanet] Non Resident Goans

[Cecil Pinto]

Antonio Menezes wrote:

Non Resident Goans could be classified into two groups.

The first group consists of Goans who migrated mainly to Mumbai,
thoseworking on boardof ships and cruise liners,and finally Goans who
work in the Gulf Regioni.e. Oman,United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Saudi
Arabia, Bahrain and Kuwait.

The second group of Goans are those residing in the UK, Canada and in
theU.S.> From Goa's economic point of view , the remittances to Goa
from the first group areoverwhelmingly greater than remittances to Goa
from the second group.

Hence, the Commissioner of N R I affairs knows very well which Goan
group isindispensable for the maintenance of Catholic homes in Goa

-



In my humble opinion Antonio has a very valid point. Very often the
term Non-Resident Goan is used to include just every Goan who does not
reside in Goa and this can cause a lot of misunderstandings.

Take for example the vast difference between the way the Global Goans
Convention was organised in Toronto and in Muscat. Particularly the
pre-Convention publicity.

There are definitely two different types of Non-Resident Goans. We
have to devise new terms to differentiate the two.

Cheers!

Cecil

Re: [Goanet] Non Resident Goans

[Frederick Noronha]

Are remittances of expats to be seen as something unquestionably
positive, negative or a mixed blessing?

Given that the extra money pouring into Goa leads to conspicuous
consumption, a disinclination to earn one's own livelihood, fuells
real-estate boom, contributes to inflation and making Goa one of the
costliest non-metros (and even compared to the metros!) in India, and
acts as a magnet for in-migration which we all lambast, isn't it time
that we reassessed this issue?

FN

2009/11/11 Antonio Menezes :
> >From Goa's economic point of view , the remittances to Goa from the first
> group are
> overwhelmingly greater than remittances  to Goa from the second group.

-- 
Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490
Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism

[Goanet] Non Resident Goans

[Antonio Menezes]

Non Resident Goans could be classified into two groups.

The first group consists of Goans who migrated mainly to Mumbai, those
working on board
of ships and cruise liners,and finally Goans who work in the Gulf Region
i.e. Oman,
United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Kuwait.

The second group of Goans are those residing in the UK, Canada and in the
U.S.

>From Goa's economic point of view , the remittances to Goa from the first
group are
overwhelmingly greater than remittances  to Goa from the second group.

Hence, the Commissioner of N R I affairs knows very well which Goan group is

indispensable for the maintenance of Catholic homes in Goa

Re: [Goanet] Non-Resident Goans Registration

[Valmiki Faleiro]

Dear Roland,

I too am not a dog.  Happen to be a rat, a 'shudd' Modgouncar.
(That's why I don't trust guys like Fred and Gabe ... they've
started a Mutual Admiration society for the elimination of rats!)

Regards, Valmiki


- Original Message - 
From: "Alfred de Tavares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Non-Resident Goans Registration


> Eduardo, not Curtorcar, a dog, su'nem; he is a Raikar, a tiger, vagh;
> 
> One who loves his sleep rather incontinently much.
> 
> I am Lotlocar, a he-goat, bokddo.
> 
> Alfred
> 
> 
>>From: "Roland Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
>>
>>To: goanet 
>>Subject: [Goanet] Non-Resident Goans Registration
>>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:44:25 -0400
>>
>>Perhaps I shall send the NRI Commissioner my Pidu story or maybe the
>>open letter to Valmiki Faleiro which may strike a chord with our
>>Eduardo who shares the same family name as Valmiki. (Curtorkars, bah!)
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Re: [Goanet] Non-Resident Goans Registration

[Alfred de Tavares]

Eduardo, not Curtorcar, a dog, su'nem; he is a Raikar, a tiger, vagh;

One who loves his sleep rather incontinently much.

I am Lotlocar, a he-goat, bokddo.

Alfred


>From: "Roland Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
>
>To: goanet 
>Subject: [Goanet] Non-Resident Goans Registration
>Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 22:44:25 -0400
>
>Either Frederick gets his scoops well before the news makers get
>enough time to prepare for the reaction to it, or Eduardo Faleiro and
>his NRI commisionerate are competing with the American FEMA for
>inefficiency and cluelessness.
>
>A request for registration at their email address takes you to a empty
>screen, while one expects some kind of user-friendly form to fill.
>Perhaps I shall send the NRI Commissioner my Pidu story or maybe the
>open letter to Valmiki Faleiro which may strike a chord with our
>Eduardo who shares the same family name as Valmiki. (Curtorkars, bah!)
>
>Not that I desire to register myself since I am not a non-resident
>Indian in the full sense of the term, but little things gives one a
>sense of what can be expected.
>
>"Commissioner and former union minister Eduardo Faleiro has asked
>non-resident Goans, including from other parts of the country to
>register themselves at its email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]".
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Re: [Goanet] Non-Resident Goans Registration (Email ID does not Exist ?)

[Frederick \"FN\" Noronha]

Please check if this works...
"Commissioner NRI Goa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

Sorry there is some error with the earlier address. FN

On 09/09/06, JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> -- Forwarded message --
> From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: goanet@goanet.org
> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:10:19 +0100 (BST)
> Subject: Re:[Goanet] Non-Resident Goans Registration (Email ID does not Exist
> I tried up to five times from Yahoo (and also Rediffmail) In all cases it 
> instantly came back
> undelivered.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  does not exist ?

-- 
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http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Goanet] Non-Resident Goans Registration (Email ID does not Exist ?)

[JoeGoaUk]

I tried up to five times from Yahoo (and also Rediffmail) In all cases it 
instantly came back
undelivered.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  does not exist ?

=

Date: 9 Sep 2006 09:54:32 - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Subject: failure notice 

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at yahoo.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
203.199.83.4 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
Giving up on 203.199.83.4.

see What Reddimail says here..

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at rediffmail.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
The user's mailbox is not available.







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[Goanet] Non-Resident Goans Registration

[Roland Francis]

Either Frederick gets his scoops well before the news makers get
enough time to prepare for the reaction to it, or Eduardo Faleiro and
his NRI commisionerate are competing with the American FEMA for
inefficiency and cluelessness.

A request for registration at their email address takes you to a empty
screen, while one expects some kind of user-friendly form to fill.
Perhaps I shall send the NRI Commissioner my Pidu story or maybe the
open letter to Valmiki Faleiro which may strike a chord with our
Eduardo who shares the same family name as Valmiki. (Curtorkars, bah!)

Not that I desire to register myself since I am not a non-resident
Indian in the full sense of the term, but little things gives one a
sense of what can be expected.

"Commissioner and former union minister Eduardo Faleiro has asked
non-resident Goans, including from other parts of the country to
register themselves at its email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]".
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