Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans blow earnings on personal consumption

2012-10-07 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
The word blow is a value-loaded one. Who decides where someone
should spend their money? The Goa government? The vested interests
here? Mineowners (that favourite whipping boy of moment, though
they've been doing their damage for decades)?

Imagine headlines such as this:

* Goa government servants blow earnings on KFC and Zantye cashewnuts.
* Ministers blow earnings to part-share their booty with their voters.
* Parrikar government blows State revenues on all kinds of subsidies.
* Mineowners blow their earnings in Swiss bank accounts

We can simply let our imagination run riot on this track... FN


On 7 October 2012 01:35, Jose Colaco cola...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Oct 6, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Eugene Correia

 [1] Overseas Goans have become SHREWD to TO JOIN HANDS with the government 
 or with local bodies because once the overseason Goans part with their money 
 they are then subjected to a wild goose case.

 [2]  Overseas Goans must think million times before venturing into Goa's 
 business sector as joint-partners in any scheme. The risk is high. The 
 government probably WANTS overseas Goans to blow their earnings in fattening 
 their pockets.

 COMMENT:

 I agree with the CAUTION advised by Eugene, IF I have accurately  understood 
 his rather poorly scripted post.

 However, I wonder if it can be reasonably deduced that #s 12(supra) 
 contradict each other.

 jc


Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans blow earnings on personal consumption

2012-10-07 Thread Jose Colaco



On Oct 6, 2012, at 11:56 PM,  Frederick Noronha wrote:

 The word BLOW is a value-loaded one. Who decides where someone should SPEND 
 their money? 
 
 Imagine headlines such as this:
 
 * Mineowners BLOW their earnings in Swiss bank accounts
 
 We can simply let our imagination run riot on this track... FN
 

Yes ... It would indeed be a 'riotous' bit of imagination to even believe that 
those chaps BLOW their earnings in those accounts.

jc


 
 On 7 October 2012 01:35, Jose Colaco cola...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Oct 6, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Eugene Correia
 
 [1] Overseas Goans have become SHREWD to TO JOIN HANDS with the government 
 or with local bodies because once the overseason Goans part with their 
 money they are then subjected to a wild goose case.
 
 [2]  Overseas Goans must think million times before venturing into Goa's 
 business sector as joint-partners in any scheme. The risk is high. The 
 government probably WANTS overseas Goans to blow their earnings in 
 fattening their pockets.
 
 COMMENT:
 
 I agree with the CAUTION advised by Eugene, IF I have accurately  understood 
 his rather poorly scripted post.
 
 However, I wonder if it can be reasonably deduced that #s 12(supra) 
 contradict each other.
 
 jc


Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans blow earnings on personal consumption

2012-10-07 Thread Alfred de Tavares

My dear Doc...

You  blew up wellblow this...blow that...blow sundry...

But failed to celebrate the master-blower of all times: THE DEAR OLD NUT...
the onle  only virtuosa of blowdom...MONIKA LEWINSKY

How could youman?

Old Joepls give as wide publicity/support as you can... more to Carmita's 
SAVE GOA event. Monday, October 15 in London.

I have already sent you programme, if not pls send an OWL ASAP

The never sleeping Chacha his diabetes be demned...



 From: cola...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:33:54 -0400
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans blow earnings on personal consumption
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 6, 2012, at 11:56 PM,  Frederick Noronha wrote:
 
  The word BLOW is a value-loaded one. Who decides where someone should 
  SPEND their money? 
  
  Imagine headlines such as this:
  
  * Mineowners BLOW their earnings in Swiss bank accounts
  
  We can simply let our imagination run riot on this track... FN
  
 
 Yes ... It would indeed be a 'riotous' bit of imagination to even believe 
 that those chaps BLOW their earnings in those accounts.
 
 jc
 
 
  
  On 7 October 2012 01:35, Jose Colaco cola...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  On Oct 6, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Eugene Correia
  
  [1] Overseas Goans have become SHREWD to TO JOIN HANDS with the 
  government or with local bodies because once the overseason Goans part 
  with their money they are then subjected to a wild goose case.
  
  [2]  Overseas Goans must think million times before venturing into Goa's 
  business sector as joint-partners in any scheme. The risk is high. The 
  government probably WANTS overseas Goans to blow their earnings in 
  fattening their pockets.
  
  COMMENT:
  
  I agree with the CAUTION advised by Eugene, IF I have accurately  
  understood his rather poorly scripted post.
  
  However, I wonder if it can be reasonably deduced that #s 12(supra) 
  contradict each other.
  
  jc
  

[Goanet] Overseas Goans blow earnings on personal consumption

2012-10-06 Thread vivek araujo
I came accross an article on NT dated 6th October on the above subject written 
by Mr. Ramnath N Pai Raikar.

A great article to read but i would like to make a mention of some facts.

As i was reading his article i came accross the following 
ParagraphInterestingly, the statistics with the office of the Commissioner for 
NRI Affairs, Goa further states that the migration of high-skilled 
professionals, doctors, engineers, IT professionals and those in other 
knowledge economy sectors has been mostly to North America. 

At many Global  Goan Conventions i have attended where the NRI office is well 
represented i was privileged to have been given an opportunity to speak my mind 
and i did mention the Goans overseas are ready to relocate back to Goa subject 
to the asurance from the Goa Government that Goans will be supported in every 
way on their investments and one of them is Information Technology ,i did 
mention that should Goan's invest in ICT in Goa ,the Government should give 
opportunites to these companies with some Projects in Computerization  in 
different sectors ...why would someone leave a promising Job overseas and then 
invest in Goa when computerization projects are not being done by any Goan 
Company ..(i stand corrected) I would be pleased to read if any Goan IT  
company is implementing any major or even minor project of computerization of 
any department or Ministry in Goa. My requests to have the assurance from Goa 
Government to support Goan IT Companies who
 want to start something new and provide employemnt to many unemployed Goans 
who are bright but not being given an opportunity to explore fell on deaf years,

More than being emotional or passionate about Goa we need to be real and 
address the factual aspect of it more than mere verbal ..many a times we 
impress readers with what one feels about a subject from one side of the coin 
and it is worth reading but if you read not between but through the lines the 
information may not be accurate .

I would still stress through this forum /Goanet , how many IT projects to be 
implemented in Goa is on the Goa ICT stragtegy Plan , does Goa have an ICT 
strategy Plan ?Is it a Public document if so can i please have a copy of the 
same ..i would like to take it up from here and let me see how best i can get 
the support .

Regards

Vivek




Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans blow earnings on personal consumption

2012-10-06 Thread Jose Colaco

On Oct 6, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Eugene Correia 

 [1] Overseas Goans have become SHREWD to TO JOIN HANDS with the government or 
 with local bodies because once the overseason Goans part with their money 
 they are then subjected to a wild goose case.
 
 [2]  Overseas Goans must think million times before venturing into Goa's 
 business sector as joint-partners in any scheme. The risk is high. The 
 government probably WANTS overseas Goans to blow their earnings in fattening 
 their pockets.

COMMENT: 

I agree with the CAUTION advised by Eugene, IF I have accurately  understood 
his rather poorly scripted post.

However, I wonder if it can be reasonably deduced that #s 12(supra) contradict 
each other.

jc

[Goanet] Overseas Goans Should Not Invite Our Corrupt

2011-03-08 Thread Peter Fernandes
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  92b00f6d84d6c743b7fdc0fb16d8bd93014f4...@emaarntex1.emaar.ae
Overseas Goans Should Not Invite Our Corrupt Politicians

I am Tiatr lover and when I am in Goa I don't miss any. In Dubai too
never used to miss. Recently our Tiatr organizers bring our corrupt
Ministers as Chief Guests. Because of this I stopped attending Tiatrs in
Dubai.

One of our Dubai Tiatrist happened to meet a minister's daughter who has a
title as social worker, for some help or development in their village.He was
shocked with her responce. Bhik'reache kotten bhik galina zalear bhikari
khoxal zaunk xokta? All are corrupt and I dont know what social work she
did to have that title social worker. If she had worked against the
corrupt politicians that title would have suit her, she herself is corrupt,
ha ha ha.. social worker and advocate by profession.

As Freddy said, all Goan Politicians must be kept away and I too agree to
him. GOANS I know you are susegad and you stik to that title and remain
quite. Some of our Overseas Goykar call you PIXE. I know you are not you all
Goykar are XANE but don't want to open your mouth and talk' Remain quite and
watch and say ANIK KONN ASSA GOYEM CHOLOUNK? This is not the time to remain
quite, let's all  join together to raise our voice against these Politicians
and support GRA.

Regards
Peter Fernandes


[Goanet] Overseas Goans Should Not Invite Our Corrupt Politicians

2011-03-07 Thread Freddy Fernandes
Overseas Goans Should Not Invite Our Corrupt Politicians 

 

It is indeed unfortunate that Dubai and Kuwait are become second homes for our
corrupt politicians and there are the few who would go to any lengths to appease
these masters of corruption. These are the few people who for their own personal
benefit are exploiting the love of our Goans for the football and Tiatr culture
to propagate their own personal agendas. 

 

It is in the news that Churchill on his visit to Dubai spoke about honesty and
virtues, Churchill talking about honesty is like a serial rapist talking about
chastity. They both somehow know the value of the terms but do not practice it.
During the San Joao celebration in Dubai, Churchill gate crashed uninvited and
was booed off by a few of us. There are a lot of Goans in Dubai who loath our
corrupt politicians and have shown their resentment in words, writings and
actions as well. 

 

Though there are a few amongst us who have and will always betray for a few
pieces of silver. Tiatr is a rare occasion here in Dubai and a good many Goans
go for these tiatrs only because they love tiatrs more than they hate our
politicians. Though there are many Goans in Dubai who have stopped going for
tiatrs purely because our corrupt politicians are invited as chief guests, even
though we love our tiatr culture but we do it as a sign of protest.

 

In fact I have written on a lot of papers and on different Goan forums asking
Goans to boycott these events where our corrupt politicians are invited as chief
guests or guests of honour even though the word honour and Goan politicians are
oxymoron in nature and status. Even in Goa we have football finals, feasts,
inaugurations, foundations, tiatrs and even weddings where these corrupt
politicians are honoured and acclaimed sometimes even by our religious leaders.
The height of acrimony being, some even have memorial football tournament in
honour of the next of kith and kin of one of the most inapt politician, who was
killed by of our very own, brave customs officer in a smuggling raid.

 

A lot of Goans in Goa and overseas were being overwhelmed by the power of money
for a long long time and the welfare of Goa and Goans was forgotten and I hope
15th March will light the flame of love for Goa in us and remind us of our duty
towards Goa and fellow Goans and help us to bring about a change in our
perceptions, a change that every Goa loving Goan has been longing for. Let us
support GRA in Large numbers on 15th March and show our solidarity and love for
Goa. Goa Jai Ho !!!

 

Freddy Agnelo Fernandes


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[Goanet] Overseas Goans left out of Census enumeration

2011-02-21 Thread Goanet News Service

Overseas Goans left out of Census enumeration
MARGAO, FEB 21

The ongoing census operation may not reflect Goa’s population, exactly, 
especially in minority dominated Salcete taluka.


For, Goans working abroad – either on board ships or in the Gulf, Europe 
or USA – are not included in the census operations.
With almost one member of each family in Salcete’s countryside is abroad 
for employment purpose, the census is unlikely to show the exact 
population in respective talukas.


A senior census official, Gaonkar told Herald that only those staying in 
the State at this particular point of time when the operation is 
underway are to be included in the census. “These are the instructions 
which have been received from the Centre and they are being implemented 
in the State,” he added.


Deputy Collector, Margao Johnson Fernandes said that instructions have 
been received by his office from the higher ups that only people 
presently staying in the state are to be enumerated by the officials.
Census field staff say that these instructions have put them in a tight 
spot, especially in Velim, Chinchinim, Assolna and Cuncolim – which have 
a large number of seafarer community.


A field official said they had to face double trouble while enumerating 
houses in Salcete villages. “We have come across head of the family 
dishing out all information, including those of children employed abroad 
for 6-9 months. It’s only when they are asked to specify the mode of 
transport used to travel to the work place, they disclose that the 
inmate is abroad. This leads to unnecessary arguments, with the people 
insisting on inclusion of names in the enumeration,” the official said.


A senior official pointed out that they are helpless in the matter as 
they are required to go by the instructions. Admitting that seafarers 
working abroad return home every 6-9 months, the official said that 
instruction are crystal clear that names of only those staying in the 
state are to be included in the census.



http://www.oheraldo.in/news/Local%20News/Overseas-Goans-left-out-of-Census-enumeration/45878.html


Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans can help save Goa

2011-01-11 Thread Gina Fernandes
My Dear Goan Brothers and Sisters Residing in Goa  the Overseas...

I am not sure if I am right to say... why don't we request all our Niz Goemkars 
to come out with a signature campaign to kick out the illeterate 
politicians..perhaps this will lead us to the insight of some of our Niz 
Goemkars and help us to see the truth whether they are truly involved in saving 
Goa or just picking lice... suffice to say if we get the majority in the 
signature campaign...we can forward it to the Prime Minister to oust the 
present 
government and have new elections. 


In fact most of the Goans are hand in glove with the present government, who 
fulfill some of their degraded demands...such Goans should be socially 
boycotted...Anyways I wish we could save our Beautiful Goa, which once upon a 
time was given a high pedestal...and now being raped by self centered Goans and 
the 40 thieves...

Gina 





From: Wilson Wilmix wilsonwil...@rediffmail.com
To: goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Tue, 11 January, 2011 8:01:29 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Overseas Goans can help save Goa

Overseas Goans can help save Goa
(Food for Thought) :  WILMIX WILSON MAZARELLO


There is no doubt, that the Overseas Goan community is the most concerned, 
about 
the future of Goa.

It is not that Goans in Goa are not concerned. There are many in Goa too, who 
are genuinely concerned , but the Overseas  Goans show it openly through their 
continuous writings in the local dailies and much more on the Internet.

But my dear Overseas Goan Brothers and Sisters , showing concern and doing 
something about it , are 2 different  things.
We Goans  in Goa , are very well known to talk , but when it comes to doing 
something about it , we are the first to run away from the situation.

It  is true,  being away from home there is nothing else that the Overseas 
Goans 
can do, other than showing  their concern by writing about it.

You may also be right in saying that it is the Goans in Goa who should do 
something about it .

But my dear Overseas Goans , you have already seen , over the last 50 years, 
what the Goans , in Goa,  have been doing .

We have been electing the “same old  crooks” over  and over again, to ensure 
that Goa is “plundered’  and “looted” beyond recognition.

We Goans  in Goa have been , not only working but slogging-it-out to ensure 
that 
the “same old crooks” get elected  again and again so that they complete the 
work  the work of “destruction” of Goa,  they have already started .

By this , we Goans in Goa have successfully manged to  :-

1. Sell all Goan Property to Non-Goans.
2. Mow down as many Hills  Forests of Goa , coupled with destruction of Goa,s  
Eco-System.
3. Mass conversions of all Agricultural land and Green Areas to 
Development-Areas.
4. Commercializing of all Goan Beaches, to the extent that  local Goans  have 
no 
access to Goan beaches.
5. Approve Airports in Goa, to serve the convenience of everyone else but Goans.
6. Widen Roads and build new Roads, by demolishing houses of only the poor 
Goans.
7. Start a process of forcing  an Independent language (Our mother tongue 
Konkani) to become  a dialect of Marathi.

These are only  few of the things we Goans in Goa have managed to achieve so 
far. You leave it to us for one more election-term and  rest assured we will 
successfully manage to :-

1. Ensure  that Goa is in fully owned by  Politicians and Real Estate 
Developers 
.
2. Ensure that all Goan  Property will be owned by Non-Goans . They will be our 
Masters and we their humble Servants.
3. Convert all N.G.Os  (Non-Govt.-Organizatios) , to  G.Os (Govt. 
Organizations). These include, Organizations like “Goa Bacchao Abhiyan” etc. , 
which will  be given Government Grants and the main Office Bearers will be 
nominated by the Government.
4. Pass a Bill preventing Overseas Goans  from returning to Goa  as they are to 
be treated as migrants.
5. Amend the “Official language Bill of Goa” to read  as “Marathi will be the 
Official Language of Goa ,  and  all dialects  of Marathi including Konkani , 
may be used for Official purposes”.

My dear Overseas Goans, this is not one of my  “funny stories” like the type I 
normally write. But, this is a “real-forecast ” of things to come.

Many , right-thinking Goans , have put their minds together , on this issue,  
in 
the past and all of them have come to just one solution, ie. “Change the 
Politics  of Goa by bringing  in newer  people into Politics. Bring in people 
with strong moral character, especially from the Youth”.

No amount of shouting , no amount of writing can save Goa now.
The one only thing that can save Goa , is Goans  fielding Candidates , who 
will  
work for Goa , and not for themselves.

But, who will decide on such  “selfless” candidates ?  We all will. Let’s sit 
together to decide. Let’s take it as our joint responsibility.

Remember, if everyone shuns away from this responsibility, the same “filth” 
will 
prevail and we

Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans can help save Goa

2011-01-11 Thread augusto pinto
Gina Fernandes writes: I am not sure if I am right to say... why don't we
request all our Niz Goemkars to come out with a signature campaign to kick
out the illeterate politicians..

Response: Neither am I, dear Gina.

For one thing most of our politicians are not illiterate (and by the way
illiterate is not spelt 'illeterate') Most have decent educational
qualifications and even those that do not, have an intelligence that usually
far exceeds that of those who may have a string of degrees. They also have
the capacity to embody the aspirations of large numbers of people; they have
the ability to mobilize people; they are opinion leaders ... These sorts of
qualities are not very simple to acquire and retain.

Some people think that just money and muscle power will win elections: if
that were true then the Tatas, the Birlas or the Dempos and the Chowgules
would be Prime Ministers and Chief Ministers. (Someone may point out that
Anil Salgaocar is an MLA - true, but remember that he is just a fringe
player as a politician at least as of now; and that position too he has
gained after considerable effort for he lost an election the first time
round).

True money and muscle are factors but I don't think that voters really can
be bought: if they had realistic choices and not just token 'honest'
candidates to choose from they would have been elected in.

The problem with our politicians is their values: and these values are
strangely just like our own. Like us they worship money. The difference is
that unlike us who do what we do half heartedly, they take their God very
seriously, and they do whatever it takes to appease this deity. This is why
they are so successful in whatever they do.

Those who look down upon politicians do not understand politics and will
never be able to throw those politicians out. Look at your letter, dear
Gina. Sitting comfortably in some foreign clime you hold on to the touching
belief that writing letters and starting signature campaigns will change the
political scenario in Goa. Sigh.

Having said that let me not discourage you. Please don't stop your earnest
efforts. If you can prove my cynical views to be wrong then I'd be glad to
be wrong.

Cheers
Augusto

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Moira, Bardez,
Goa, India
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M 9881126350


Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans can help save Goa

2011-01-11 Thread Roland Francis
Augusto,
If your statement below is true, then you are also saying that Goans have
the leaders they want (and deserve). Therefore you have proved by argument
Gina's contention that only overseas Goans can save Goa, since the present
lot of leaders are without doubt the worst lot you can possibly get.

This is not what I believe (that overseas Goans can save Goa), but this is
the conclusion from your argument.

I hope you have read the post by Camillo Fernandes about the leaders Goa was
fortunate to have just after 1961. Just compare them to now. 

Roland. 
Toronto

Augusto Pinto writes:
They also have the capacity to embody the aspirations of large numbers of
people; they have the ability to mobilize people; they are opinion leaders
... 



[Goanet] Overseas Goans can help save Goa

2011-01-10 Thread Wilson Wilmix

Overseas Goans can help save Goa
(Food for Thought) :  WILMIX WILSON MAZARELLO


There is no doubt, that the Overseas Goan community is the most 
concerned, about the future of Goa.


It is not that Goans in Goa are not concerned. There are many in Goa 
too, who are genuinely concerned , but the Overseas  Goans show it 
openly through their continuous writings in the local dailies and much 
more on the Internet.


But my dear Overseas Goan Brothers and Sisters , showing concern and 
doing something about it , are 2 different  things.
We Goans  in Goa , are very well known to talk , but when it comes to 
doing something about it , we are the first to run away from the 
situation.


It  is true,  being away from home there is nothing else that the 
Overseas Goans can do, other than showing  their concern by writing 
about it.


You may also be right in saying that it is the Goans in Goa who should 
do something about it .


But my dear Overseas Goans , you have already seen , over the last 50 
years, what the Goans , in Goa,  have been doing .


We have been electing the “same old  crooks” over  and over again, to 
ensure that Goa is “plundered’  and “looted” beyond recognition.


We Goans  in Goa have been , not only working but slogging-it-out to 
ensure that the “same old crooks” get elected  again and again so that 
they complete the work  the work of “destruction” of Goa,  they have 
already started .


By this , we Goans in Goa have successfully manged to  :-

1. Sell all Goan Property to Non-Goans.
2. Mow down as many Hills  Forests of Goa , coupled with destruction of 
Goa,s  Eco-System.
3. Mass conversions of all Agricultural land and Green Areas to 
Development-Areas.
4. Commercializing of all Goan Beaches, to the extent that  local Goans 
 have no access to Goan beaches.
5. Approve Airports in Goa, to serve the convenience of everyone else 
but Goans.
6. Widen Roads and build new Roads, by demolishing houses of only the 
poor Goans.
7. Start a process of forcing  an Independent language (Our mother 
tongue Konkani) to become  a dialect of Marathi.


These are only  few of the things we Goans in Goa have managed to 
achieve so far. You leave it to us for one more election-term and  rest 
assured we will successfully manage to :-


1. Ensure  that Goa is in fully owned by  Politicians and Real Estate 
Developers .
2. Ensure that all Goan  Property will be owned by Non-Goans . They will 
be our Masters and we their humble Servants.
3. Convert all N.G.Os  (Non-Govt.-Organizatios) , to   G.Os (Govt. 
Organizations). These include, Organizations like “Goa Bacchao Abhiyan” 
etc. , which will  be given Government Grants and the main Office 
Bearers will be nominated by the Government.
4. Pass a Bill preventing Overseas Goans  from returning to Goa  as they 
are to be treated as migrants.
5. Amend the “Official language Bill of Goa” to read  as “Marathi will 
be the Official Language of Goa ,  and  all dialects  of Marathi 
including Konkani , may be used for Official purposes”.


My dear Overseas Goans, this is not one of my  “funny stories” like the 
type I normally write. But, this is a “real-forecast ” of things to come.


Many , right-thinking Goans , have put their minds together , on this 
issue,  in the past and all of them have come to just one solution, ie. 
“Change the Politics  of Goa by bringing   in newer  people into 
Politics. Bring in people with strong moral character, especially from 
the Youth”.


No amount of shouting , no amount of writing can save Goa now.
The one only thing that can save Goa , is Goans  fielding Candidates , 
who will  work for Goa , and not for themselves.


But, who will decide on such  “selfless” candidates ?  We all will. 
Let’s sit together to decide. Let’s take it as our joint responsibility.


Remember, if everyone shuns away from this responsibility, the same 
“filth” will prevail and we will have lost Goa  forever.

This may be our last chance to save our beloved Goa.

Today we are a little over a year away, from the next Assembly Elections.

I strongly feel, that there are many among Goans , who have the “will” 
to stand for Elections and do something  for Goa, but they  do not have 
the “big-money” that is normally required to fight an election.


It is here that the the Overseas Goans can be of great help.
I don’t mean to say that the Overseas Goans  should ‘shell-out” all 
their life’s savings into this.  No!


But , by just by setting aside  Ind. Rs. 100/- for saving Goa , 5 Lakh 
Overseas Goans  can collect Ind. Rs. 5 crores . This could easily 
finance the election campaign of 10 candidates @ Ind. Rs. 50,00,000/= 
per candidate.


Is this something very difficult ?

Think it over, my fellow Overseas Goans.

Each one of you, could do your bit to “SAVE GOA” , your Motherland , for 
just Rs. 100/-.


If you lose this opportunity, in the forthcoming Elections, it may be 
too late for Goa.


Goa could be lost for ever.

Come together. Fight over it , if 

[Goanet] Overseas Goans Act !!

2009-12-19 Thread Arwin Mesquita

In this month of December, we see many overseas Goans who have come to Goa
on Holidays. Surely, many are here to celebrate the Festive Season and
indulge in relaxation/enjoyment, via various events. How good it will be for
Goa and Goans, if these Goans take some time to see how they can contribute
to the betterment of their towns  villages. Overseas Goans have gained the
best of Global Best Practices and are aware of latest developments; surely
we can put our rich expertise and knowledge back into our home state and
help make Goa into the place we want it to be; and preserve our prized
identity. Even a little effort by each overseas Goan can result in a
gigantic combined effort. We might be residing abroad but we should not
forget where we came from!!

Arwin Mesquita (UAE)






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Please also see below:
1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/

2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/

3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/

4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO:
http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html

5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/

6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim

7. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/


[Goanet] Overseas Goans issues are same as Local Goans

2009-12-19 Thread Arwin Mesquita

Dear Goans
The below Letters (all in December) are mainly for the benefit of Goans who
argue that issues of Overseas Goans are not the same s Local Goans. These
are only a selected few of the many that appear in the Goan Media.
Arwin Mesquita
**
*http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=31287cid=13*
**
*Liberation or false dawn?
Zino Carvalho, Davorlim
*As Goa completes 48 years of its Liberation, despite the tremendous
progress we have made since 1961, the people hope that the Central
Government would grant special status to the state. But this has not yet
materialised.
The feeling of being colonised has not yet left us.  At present we are
concerned by the influx of immigrants, lack of job opportunities, sale of
land, exploitation of mines, stench of rancid garbage at every nook and
corner, plundering of agricultural fields and green zones for concrete mega
projects, sky-rocketing prices and cost of living, full implementation of
the Official Language Act, etc.
Goa was not part of the Constituent Assembly deliberations. It was liberated
through army intervention in 1961. We missed the first two Five-Year Plans.
In order to preserve our identity, culture, land we need special status like
Himachal Pradesh, Uttaranchal or Jammu  Kashmir to regulate or restrict
ownership and transfer of land to non-Goans.
Goa ought to have been given the special status soon after Liberation as
promised by the then central government, led by Jawaharlal Nehru, who had
assured Goans that he would do this to preserve the unique Goan identity for
our future generations.


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*Viva Liberation!
Joel Morais, Cuncolim
*Liberation changed Green Goa to a concrete jungle. Liberation opened the
doors and welcomed the criminals. Liberation welcomed the communal fanatics
to create communal riots and bomb blasts. Liberation opened a market to sell
government jobs. Liberation allowed the rich and the powerful to have their
own laws. Liberation welcomed pollution to pollute our ground water.
Liberation allowed the rape of our virgin beaches. Liberation welcomed the
River Princess to take shelter in Candolim. Liberation allowed the sons and
daughters of top government officers to use and crash government cars.
Liberation allowed the elected people in power to use official force against
the sons and the daughters of the soil. Liberation converted us from the
slaves of Portuguese law to the slaves of our own law.
Last but not the least, Liberation will once again welcome the elected
licensed Goa looters to hoist the holy flag of our beloved country on 19
December.
http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=31273cid=14

*Reflections on the Eve of Liberation Day*

*We deceive ourselves if we feel everything in Goa is fine, while our
identity, culture and survival are at stake, says DR JOE D’SOUZA*

Since 1961, every 19th December, Goans celebrate their ‘Liberation Day’ from
their colonial masters. The Indian Army took over the administration of Goa
from the Portuguese in a smooth operation, before anyone in Goa knew
anything much. Power was peacefully transferred without any bloodshed and
with no loss of life.
But as I lie on my bed, lazily reflecting on the past, my mind poses a
question: “Is Goa truly liberated?”
I belong to the generation which can vividly remember and reflect about
those good old days with their pleasant times. I belong to the era wherein
as a child I could sea no evil, as I wasn’t big enough to know and
understand much about the difference between Indian democracy and Portuguese
dictatorship. My interaction with the Portuguese pakles was at the check
post, each time I visited Goa from Mumbai (then Bombay) for the annual
summer holidays. What Aunty Laura used to do as a freedom fighter then
mattered to the extent that we missed her company during the time she was in
the freedom movement.
Good fish, lots of cheese and a tinge of port wine was on the table for us
to relish, especially when she was around. Lots of oysters, big crabs and
mussels fresh from the River Chapora used to find their way to our home from
the nearby fishing canoes. In the 1950s our lives in Mumbai were a bitter
struggle, I can remember famines, rationed food and study under dim lights
or sometimes under electric poles.
But once in Goa, it was like going from hell to Paradise. My granny used to
rear pigs and fowls, grow vegetables and ensure that plenty of mangoes,
jackfruits and tender coconuts remained on our trees. Taking a bath straight
from the brass pot drawn from the village well on a hot summer afternoon and
again under the banana plantation, either by moonlight or the dim light of a
small kerosene lamp, was an enchanting experience.
A wholesome and healthy quality of life for our family all through the
erstwhile Portuguese regime under Salazar made me ponder if liberation for
Goa is truly achieved, especially as the life in the state for the niz
Goemkar is becoming increasingly tough and challenging. Mining beyond

Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans Are Null and Void

2008-08-05 Thread floriano


Dear Roland,

My broadband connectivity was interrupted as of Sunday, 3/Aug - 3.00 p.m.
IST. Therefore there was a pile-up in my inbox. The connectivity was
restored only today, 5/Aug at noon. First thing I did was to clear the
second project of  Citizens' [Of Goa] Initiative - Re: the
www.goamurdermystery.com , which was sitting in my outbox since yesterday,
to net distribution lists as well as to all newspapers for info (dunno if
they will air it)  and hardly had time to scan the pile of mail. Beside the
subject of your post above is such that I thought it was something to do
with the Toronto Convention and therefore skipped it. I have gone thro it
only due to Miguel's alert.

Most gracious of you to offer such a large amount in one go. THANK YOU.  And
I shall accept your one hundred dollars US on my own terms, the terms that I
have made public vide my post preceeding the CI's debate. (subject:
Citizen's [Of Goa] Intiative begins TODAY - 30 JULY 2008 - 4.30 p.m. )

To spell the terms again,
(1) The Convenor of the 'CI' must be  a rotating Convenor
(2) The three 'Registers' that I have compiled must be maintained and
rotated for each new CI's projects.
(3)Whosoever feels that a certain issue must be taken up, shall be the next
convenor of the 'CI' and the entire bundle must change hands.
(4) Box for depositing petty cash must always be displayed at the venue and
attendees must be reminded that they are the 'hosts' and not 'invitees',
and therefore
 they  must pay,  whatever they feel like to spread the word that
'small money from a lot of people makes better sense than a lot of money
from one person'.
(5) Main Register must reflect the Accounts (Receipts  Expenses) of each
project as it takes place as well as these must be publicised on the net for
 transparency's sake.
(6) No bank account is necessary if the above is followed as the Bank
account operation requires permanent signatories. This is intended to be the
rolling trophy. So let it roll away.


And,

Miguel is most welcome to broad base the 'CI'. Let it roll ahead and
generate a stampede. (Ofcourse, not the type that we read in papers over
religious pilgrimages :-)).

Besides, my name as the 'convenor' of CI has cropped up twice already. I
don't want the wise chirp  'FAMILIARITY BREEDS CONTEMPT' to make its mark
with 'CI'  :-)

Therefore Roland, you may post a local 'crossed cheque' to me in my name and
that will be just fine. Let me assure you that I shall pay myself fully from
this and whatever remains in the kitty will be passed on to set a precedent
which is just and right. NO ONE SHUD TAKE CREDIT FOR CI The credit must go
to the CITIZENS OF GOA.

Thank you once again for your magnanimous offer. I am sorry that you had to
feel that there were no takers for it. By all means, Goa needs more of its
kind but on the basis of a very very transparent system as explained above.
Of course, the system might have inherent flaws but it can be improved to
make it very very very transparent.  Goan expats  have given a lot of money,
before,  for  lots of so called 'sincere' causes and the money has taken a
tall walk :-) . This must  and will not not happen with  the 'CITIZENS' [OF
GOA] INITIATIVE.

B/rgds

floriano



 Original Message - 
From: Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 12:38 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Overseas Goans Are Null and Void



A message to the Goans in Goa, if you didn't already know.

Diaspora Goans are a pretty useless lot as far as the political
problems in Goa are concerned. We huff and we puff and we pretend that
we have to be kept informed of what happens. We give all sort of
opinions and comments but the truth is we don't know any of the ground
realities of modern day Goa. We are really like the grand father of
the family gathering. We sit in an armchair, bow our head and
acknowledge the respect and awe of the younger relatives. But since we
are circumstantially inactive, we have no leadership to give.




It is necessary that the Goans in Goa rising as one body must feel the
need for change. It is also necessary that they throw up their own
leaders that can spark the change to create the fire. Overseas Goans
have no right to tell them what the change must be nor whether they
must make their change at all. We have no right to criticize their
leaders beyond giving them the help they need.

Personally I am impressed that Floriano and his team have organized
what may be the beginning of a growing citizens' initiative. I know
that people in Goa will identify for themselves what they need or do
not need and how best to galvanize and steer their own changes. I am
surprised that he has had to pocket the loss. In my own little way I
wish to contribute a hundred dollars to that kitty. I am hopeful that
instead of mere talk we add to that so in future he does not have to
worry about the money when he wants to make change within

Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans Are Null and Void

2008-08-04 Thread George Pinto
--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Diaspora Goans are a pretty useless lot as far as the
 political problems in Goa are concerned. We huff and we puff and we
 pretend that we have to be kept informed of what happens. We give all
 sort of opinions and comments but the truth is we don't know
 any of the ground realities of modern day Goa.


Dear Roland,  

A brief reply - 

I do no know if your opinion has been formed based on your recent (alleged) bad 
experience in Toronto or some other source or a Catholic Goan experience. But 
what you have written is not entirely true (however, I grant there is some 
truth in it). Since you mentioned political problems in the first paragraph, I 
will beriefly respond. To wit - 
1. The shrewd Manohar Parrikar would not have come here with two MLAs and other 
BJP party members at their OWN expense to the G.O.A. convention in Silicon 
Valley last month if overseas Goans are null and void. He certainly did not 
need a social visit to the USA.
2. Are you aware of the top 5 contributors to the two major parties in Goa in 
this Year? Might surprize you how many are non-Goa based and certainly not 
null and void.
3. Who provided seed money to start the GOAN OBSERVOR? Rajan Narayan is a 
colorful character but there is more truth in his weekly, than in the three 
mining-owned English dailies combined.
4. Are you aware of the current effort of overseas Goans to contribute to the 
political landscape of Goa? I am not at liberty to publicly discuss now but I 
suspect you are not aware of what is happening based on your post. 

I would not write off overseas Goans as null and void. In fact some of the 
arguments you made applies to SOME Goans in Goa with the same old politicians 
benefitting from the same old support (although this is not a Goa-based versus 
Goan overseas issue). But you won't score brownie-points with some Goa-based 
Goans for writing that.

Regards
George



[Goanet] Overseas Goans are '' null and void ''

2008-08-04 Thread Antonio Menezes
On August 2, Roland Francis wrote: ''We don't know any of the ground
realities of modern day Goa.We can pretend our conventions make a
difference. They do zilch of that sort at all.But what must be our
greatest taboo is to tell Goans in Goa what is right and what is wrong
and the biggest taboo of all - how to solve their problems.We have
no right to criticize their leaders beyong giving them the help they
need.


Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans Are Null and Void

2008-08-04 Thread Gabe Menezes
2008/8/2 Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 A message to the Goans in Goa, if you didn't already know.

 Diaspora Goans are a pretty useless lot as far as the political
 problems in Goa are concerned. We huff and we puff and we pretend that
 we have to be kept informed of what happens. 
 . We can pretend our
 conventions make a difference. They do zilch of that sort at all.

 Roland Francis
 Toronto
 +1 (416) 453.3371


RESPONSE:  I do think that Overseas Goans still matter, even if it is
in a small way, to Goa. In this I agree with what George has written.

I also agree with you that conventions in my opinion produce nothing
tangible. We have had several conventions, think tanks and the like
here in London, including one which was captioned 'Save Goa' !

For example in 2001 it was mooted to buy commercial property, reasons
for this not being a possibility were given. When we eventually bought
property it was residential and at its peak.

If readers are interested please click on to the URL below, to have
some sort of insight into how things work with Goans here.

http://www.goauk.com/artman/publish/article_564.shtml

The gist of what Eugene wrote is given further credence and
prominence; it is featured in  'Goan Voice', together with a
photograph of Eugene:-

http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/



-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London.


[Goanet] Overseas Goans Are Null and Void

2008-08-03 Thread edward desilva
Roland said:-
We can do nothing against the builders or the land grabs or the
political, civic and police mismanagement. All that is too big for us.
We can sit in our drawing rooms, dance at our social get-togethers,
shop for our Lexuses and talk of downsizing from large home to smaller
ones. Mostly for the large profits or perhaps the weary bones that no
longer permit us to mow the lawn or plow the snow. We can pretend our
conventions make a difference. They do zilch of that sort at all.
---
Hi,
We can do nothing about this socio-economic disease world wide.
Look at UK, the UN are now saying that the people of UK should be more tolerant 
towards others here.
Question is, are other countries doing the same, can we build churches in Saudi 
Arabia? is what the news papers in UK are asking.
ED.


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[Goanet] Overseas Goans Are Null and Void

2008-08-02 Thread Roland Francis
A message to the Goans in Goa, if you didn't already know.

Diaspora Goans are a pretty useless lot as far as the political
problems in Goa are concerned. We huff and we puff and we pretend that
we have to be kept informed of what happens. We give all sort of
opinions and comments but the truth is we don't know any of the ground
realities of modern day Goa. We are really like the grand father of
the family gathering. We sit in an armchair, bow our head and
acknowledge the respect and awe of the younger relatives. But since we
are circumstantially inactive, we have no leadership to give.

The only place we can make a marginal difference is to support social
causes. We can put our shoulders (or rather our dollars) to the wheels
of a Goa Sudharop or to help out a small individual that arises and is
brought to our attention. The publicity we get for this is far more
than we deserve.

We can do nothing against the builders or the land grabs or the
political, civic and police mismanagement. All that is too big for us.
We can sit in our drawing rooms, dance at our social get-togethers,
shop for our Lexuses and talk of downsizing from large home to smaller
ones. Mostly for the large profits or perhaps the weary bones that no
longer permit us to mow the lawn or plow the snow. We can pretend our
conventions make a difference. They do zilch of that sort at all.

If the truth be known, we can do nothing beyond express a sentiment
for the Goa we knew. We need not apologize for making a decision to
leave the land of our birth. That is what we have decided and whether
happy or not, we have to make the most of it. But what must be our
greatest taboo is to tell the Goans in Goa what is right and what is
wrong and the biggest taboo of all - how to solve their problems.

We can dream of all the lush greenery of our villages, the general
honesty of the Goans we knew. The cleanliness of the streets of
Panjim, Margao and Mapusa, the uprightness of the administration that
once was. As long as they are dreams and we ensure that we place a
disconnect between what was possible then and what is happening now.
There is no bridge between the two and if there is a road that must be
built, it will be done with the efforts of Goans in Goa.

I do not trivialize the efforts of overseas Goans who go to Goa for
more than a holiday or RR and try to make what difference they can. I
am sure they get the satisfaction that we who do not or cannot do,
will never get. But beyond personal satisfaction, and except for the
rare Rajan Parrikar, alas even they make little difference.

It is necessary that the Goans in Goa rising as one body must feel the
need for change. It is also necessary that they throw up their own
leaders that can spark the change to create the fire. Overseas Goans
have no right to tell them what the change must be nor whether they
must make their change at all. We have no right to criticize their
leaders beyond giving them the help they need.

Personally I am impressed that Floriano and his team have organized
what may be the beginning of a growing citizens' initiative. I know
that people in Goa will identify for themselves what they need or do
not need and how best to galvanize and steer their own changes. I am
surprised that he has had to pocket the loss. In my own little way I
wish to contribute a hundred dollars to that kitty. I am hopeful that
instead of mere talk we add to that so in future he does not have to
worry about the money when he wants to make change within democracy
work in Goa.

Roland Francis
Toronto
+1 (416) 453.3371


[Goanet] Overseas support for the Save Goa Campaign.

2008-06-01 Thread Arwin Mesquita
Dear All: Please see letter below from Ms Susan Casey which I have posted
with her permission.  Regards Arwin.

Good afternoon to all at the Save Goa campaign,

I wanted to write a mail to you to express my support for your campaign. It
may sound a little crazy but I am also a resident of England and I have been
in the very fortunate position of visiting India and Goa for over 11 years
now and I not only feel outraged by the current situation in Goa posed by
the infiltration of so many tourists and foreign settlers but really
severely sickened. I know that not all foreigners arrive with a negative
view and influence and some really do feel the same as we all do here in
this forum but I cannot express my sorrow and apologies enough to the Goan
residents for the severity of the situation both ecologically and culturally
due to the demands of the ever growing tourist sector. I adore Goa and its
people as I do India as a whole but my recent visits to Goa have left me
with a very bad taste, and this I may conclude is not due to the influence
of Goans but from the negative influence of my fellow man visiting from
various parts of Europe and the westernised world. And yet with every visit
I make to Goa the evidence is laid bare with more and more land being
converted to apartment blocks and hotel / housing projects at an alarming
rate that the scene is only set to worsen. The situation has upset me so
much that I decided to devote my major university project to the
documentation of the negative effects felt through over and irresponsible
tourism practices within Goa, both on an ecological and cultural basis. My
project looked not only at the coastal belt but at the blatant destruction
and demise of important ecological niches and cultural inheritance across
all areas including the Goan interior and as far as the majestic Sahyadris.

Unfortunately the supermarket culture of the UK and other westernised
countries is encroaching into your homestead and I urge you take action
before it is too late. The very reason that people began to flock to Goa was
due its incredible display of natural beauty in all its varied and diverse
forms along with the wonderful susegad lifestyle. In this whimsical world we
live, once the natural beauty has expired due to degradation caused by the
ever increasing demands of the tourism industry the tourists themselves
would never return. This may sound over the top and melodramatic but
unfortunately, and I am ashamed to say that this is the mantra of a huge
percentage of our society as ours is increasingly delving into the deepest
depths of a throw away society / lifestyle. I know that with a healthy
tourism sector money comes too, but as time passes more and more
international chains and foreign investments are taking over the market in
Goa and as they do the demise of local industries goes hand in hand. Who is
actually benefiting from this infiltration?

I hope to return to Goa for many years to come as my experiences, mainly
away from the coastal belt still leave me intoxicated by the beauty and
warmth displayed by the nature and incredible people of Goa. Please do not
let my countrymen spoil the beauty you behold, it is far too vitally
important on so many levels to let that happen. Allow the beauty which Goa
beholds to shine out for many years to come; please do not allow it to
become another statistic as a ruined and rotten place which was once so much
more. On a biodiversity point your species richness within the state of Goa
is really quite phenomenal but already it is massive decline again partly
due to the influence of over and irresponsible tourism with its destruction
and fragmentation of important habitat sites, excess garbage contaminating
ground water and killing marine and terrestrial species and wasteful energy
consumption. Goa has well and truly exceeded its carrying capacity and
without careful reconsideration of how to build its future the future could
look very bleak indeed. It is up to us all to provide safe and protected
areas for all species to thrive, the beaches, forests and hills which are
now effected were for thousands of years home to other species other than
man himself, we should all respect this fact and help in this plight to
provide protection at every level.

I thank you for your patience and I wish you every success with this
campaign.

Kind Regards

Susan Casey.
Yorkshire,
England.


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[Goanet] Overseas Indian Facilitation Centre (OIFC)

2008-04-21 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
The Ministry of Overseas Indian Affairs (MOIA), Government of India has set up 
an Overseas Indian Facilitation Centre (OIFC) as a not-for-profit-Trust in 
partnership with Confederation of Indian Industry (CII). The Centre will be a 
one-stop-shop for serving the interests of the Overseas Indian Community and 
has the mandate to cover two broad areas, viz., Investment Facilitation and 
Knowledge Networking.   2. The objectives of the Centre are: 
  (i) Promote Overseas Indian Investment into India and facilitate 
business partnership by giving authentic and real time information; 
(ii)Function as clearinghouse for all investment related 
information. This would be done by processing information on a real time basis 
through ICT platform; 
(iii)   Establish and maintain a Diaspora Knowledge Network 
(DKN) by creating a database of Overseas Indians, who would act as Knowledge 
Diaspora and whose knowledge resources could be using ICT platform; 
(iv)   The objectives of the OIFC will be to bring the Indian 
States, Indian Business and potential Overseas Indian Investors on the same 
platform and to facilitate the investors to identify the investment 
opportunities;
 (v)Provide a host of advisory services to PIO and NRIs. 
These could include matters such as consular questions, stay in India, 
investment and financial issues, etc. 
  3.The OIFC, formally launched in May 2007, is being 
managed by the CII. Further details on the Centre may be obtained from Ms. 
Subha Rajan, Chief Executive Officer, Overseas India Facilitation Centre, Plot 
No. 249-F, Sector 18, Udyog Vihar, Phase-IV, Gurgaon-122015, Haryana, India. - 
Tel. 91-124-4014060-67 {Extn. 374}; 4014055 (D); Fax:91-124-4014080; or from 
the website: www.oifc.in
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[Goanet] overseas jobs directory

2007-03-08 Thread Eugene Correia

* G * O * A * N * E * T  C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *

Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May
 There is no better, value for money, guest house.
  Confirm your bookings early or miss-out

  Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation.

As the debate on Goans abroad and Goans in Goa, comes
the news that Eduardo Faleiro is compilining an
overseas jobs directory for Goans who wish to go
outside the country and work.
Doesn't this say much or the Goan economy? Since there
are not many jobs coming up in Goa, the Goa government
is indirectly encouraging Goans to go abroad. Seems
defeatist, but the government knows its shortcomings.

Eugene


 

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Re: [Goanet] overseas jobs directory

2007-03-08 Thread Frederick \FN\ Noronha

* G * O * A * N * E * T  C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *

Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May
 There is no better, value for money, guest house.
  Confirm your bookings early or miss-out

  Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation.

Goans will migrate, so why stop them. It is not necessary a no jobs
issue, but just that Goans (particularly Catholic Goans) need to get
the migration virus out of their system before they can settle down to
a less-dissatisfied existence.

My question is something else: do you need a costly government
department or commissionarate or whatever, headed by a person with
ministerial status, to undertake such a job? Isn't the private sector
able to do it? It not, why not? FN

On 08/03/07, Eugene Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As the debate on Goans abroad and Goans in Goa, comes
 the news that Eduardo Faleiro is compilining an
 overseas jobs directory for Goans who wish to go
 outside the country and work.
 Doesn't this say much or the Goan economy? Since there
 are not many jobs coming up in Goa, the Goa government
 is indirectly encouraging Goans to go abroad. Seems
 defeatist, but the government knows its shortcomings.
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[Goanet] OVERSEAS GOANS NEED TO BE HEARD AND NOT JUST FETED

2007-01-01 Thread airesrod
Goa cannot afford to be forever hospitable. Yet
another State-sponsored fiesta is taking off by way of
a three day Global Goans Convention from 3rd to 5th
Jan. This edition of the now annual ritual will cost
the taxpayers almost half a crore rupees if not more.
That money could have been better spent in hotmixing
Panaji's internal roads, which are in a critical and
pathetic condition.

Every one knows the issues of concern to Goans
overseas. There is no need to hold these annual
conclaves which anyway is not attended by many
non-resident Goans. There have been so many
International Goan Conventions that have deliberated
issues concerning Goa and related to Non-Resident
Goans. What we need is some action on the part of the
government to redress the concerns and demands of
Goans living abroad.

Now that the damage to the state exchequer has been
done, the Convention should at least deliberate the
anti-Goa, anti-people and anti-environment Goa
Regional Plan 2011. The non resident Goans should
realize that the destruction of the green belt
surrounding our urban areas will cause havoc to the
fragile ecosystem as Goa will be turned into an urban
jungle.

This Goa Regional Plan 2011 will open the floodgates
of uncontrolled migration from the rest of India and
Goans will be literally a dying breed. We need to
develop an environmental vision for Goa. We need to
sink our political differences and be very concerned
about Goa’s environmental and ecological future.

Many Non resident Goans (NRG) after years of service
abroad long to settle in the land of their origin. But
for many reasons they get disheartened and give up.
Many Goans feel the urge to play a role in shaping the
future of Goa but the authorities would have to play
their part to encourage them to return and invest
their skills and savings in the land of their roots.

The very high level of corruption in Goa is something
every NRG detests.  So a war on corruption by the
Government of Goa could be the starting point in
bringing Goa closer to every NRG.

The modern NRGs are far more professional, skilled,
articulate, motivated, caring and affluent than the
previous generation. They have an empathy towards Goa
and regard it more than just another holiday
destination. These sentiments have to be tapped by the
Government with the aim of seeking mutual benefit. All
too often the Government is out to exploit and fleece
them. The bureaucratic processes endemic in Indian
methodology puts off many Non Residents from investing
locally.

NRG’s also feel that the prospects of a good education
in Goa for their children are bleak and that is
something the Government should focus on. Good
hospitals and quality professional educational
institutions are something Goa so dearly needs.

Overall, if Goa’s infrastructure is improved this will
motivate many NRGs to come back and set up shop in the
place that is so dear to them. But like in other
States of India, politicians have their fingers in
every pie, and nothing runs professionally or free
from political interference.

In recent years a lot of Goan politicians have made
overseas trips, ostensibly to study projects abroad.
It was expected that they would bring home some ideas
to improve things here. Unfortunately, these trips at
taxpayer expense have in reality been shopping and
sightseeing junkets for our ever so greedy
politicians. Who can blame the NRGs from despising our
politicians after witnessing them in action abroad?

Some action and not another extravagant convention is
the need of the hour. There is no point draining the
state exchequer by way of these farcical conventions
with no clear agenda and only merry making at public
cost.

Aires Rodrigues

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Ribandar - Goa - 403 006
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[Goanet] OVERSEAS GOANS NEED TO BE HEARD AND NOT JUST FETED

2006-12-31 Thread airesrod
Goa cannot afford to be forever hospitable. Yet
another State-sponsored fiesta is taking off by way of
a three day Global Goans Convention from 3rd to 5th
Jan. This edition of the now annual ritual will cost
the taxpayers almost half a crore rupees if not more.
That money could have been better spent in hotmixing
Panaji's internal roads, which are in a critical and
pathetic condition.

Every one knows the issues of concern to Goans
overseas. There is no need to hold these annual
conclaves which anyway is not attended by many
non-resident Goans. There have been so many
International Goan Conventions that have deliberated
issues concerning Goa and related to Non-Resident
Goans. What we need is some action on the part of the
government to redress the concerns and demands of
Goans living abroad.

Now that the damage to the state exchequer has been
done, the Convention should at least deliberate the
anti-Goa, anti-people and anti-environment Goa
Regional Plan 2011. The non resident Goans should
realize that the destruction of the green belt
surrounding our urban areas will cause havoc to the
fragile ecosystem as Goa will be turned into an urban
jungle.

This Goa Regional Plan 2011 will open the floodgates
of uncontrolled migration from the rest of India and
Goans will be literally a dying breed. We need to
develop an environmental vision for Goa. We need to
sink our political differences and be very concerned
about Goa’s environmental and ecological future.

Many Non resident Goans (NRG) after years of service
abroad long to settle in the land of their origin. But
for many reasons they get disheartened and give up.
Many Goans feel the urge to play a role in shaping the
future of Goa but the authorities would have to play
their part to encourage them to return and invest
their skills and savings in the land of their roots.

The very high level of corruption in Goa is something
every NRG detests.  So a war on corruption by the
Government of Goa could be the starting point in
bringing Goa closer to every NRG.

The modern NRGs are far more professional, skilled,
articulate, motivated, caring and affluent than the
previous generation. They have an empathy towards Goa
and regard it more than just another holiday
destination. These sentiments have to be tapped by the
Government with the aim of seeking mutual benefit. All
too often the Government is out to exploit and fleece
them. The bureaucratic processes endemic in Indian
methodology puts off many Non Residents from investing
locally.

NRG’s also feel that the prospects of a good education
in Goa for their children are bleak and that is
something the Government should focus on. Good
hospitals and quality professional educational
institutions are something Goa so dearly needs.

Overall, if Goa’s infrastructure is improved this will
motivate many NRGs to come back and set up shop in the
place that is so dear to them. But like in other
States of India, politicians have their fingers in
every pie, and nothing runs professionally or free
from political interference.

In recent years a lot of Goan politicians have made
overseas trips, ostensibly to study projects abroad.
It was expected that they would bring home some ideas
to improve things here. Unfortunately, these trips at
taxpayer expense have in reality been shopping and
sightseeing junkets for our ever so greedy
politicians. Who can blame the NRGs from despising our
politicians after witnessing them in action abroad?

Some action and not another extravagant convention is
the need of the hour. There is no point draining the
state exchequer by way of these farcical conventions
with no clear agenda and only merry making at public
cost.

Aires Rodrigues

-

C/G-2, Shopping Complex, Ribandar Retreat, 
Ribandar - Goa - 403 006
Tel: 0832- 2444012 Off , 0832- 2443308 Res,  Mobile:
09822684372 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






 
 





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Re: [Goanet] Overseas ......

2006-08-08 Thread Mario Goveia
In my opinion, in the short run, no difference.  In
the longer run, OCI.

As a naturalized US citizen, I have a ten year visa
for India, and will switch to the OCI when it expires.
 The only difference for me is that with the OCI I can
stay in India as long as I like per visit, but only 6
months at a time with my visa. 

Mario.

--- percy ferrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Fred/Goanetters !

   PIO v/s OCI Card. What's most suitable ?

   Regds
   Percy Ferrao
   Ealing Road.
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[Goanet] Overseas ......

2006-08-07 Thread percy ferrao
Dear Fred/Goanetters !
   
  PIO v/s OCI Card. What's most suitable ?
   
  Regds
  Percy Ferrao
  Ealing Road.
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