Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans blow earnings on personal consumption
The word blow is a value-loaded one. Who decides where someone should spend their money? The Goa government? The vested interests here? Mineowners (that favourite whipping boy of moment, though they've been doing their damage for decades)? Imagine headlines such as this: * Goa government servants blow earnings on KFC and Zantye cashewnuts. * Ministers blow earnings to part-share their booty with their voters. * Parrikar government blows State revenues on all kinds of subsidies. * Mineowners blow their earnings in Swiss bank accounts We can simply let our imagination run riot on this track... FN On 7 October 2012 01:35, Jose Colaco cola...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 6, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Eugene Correia [1] Overseas Goans have become SHREWD to TO JOIN HANDS with the government or with local bodies because once the overseason Goans part with their money they are then subjected to a wild goose case. [2] Overseas Goans must think million times before venturing into Goa's business sector as joint-partners in any scheme. The risk is high. The government probably WANTS overseas Goans to blow their earnings in fattening their pockets. COMMENT: I agree with the CAUTION advised by Eugene, IF I have accurately understood his rather poorly scripted post. However, I wonder if it can be reasonably deduced that #s 12(supra) contradict each other. jc
Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans blow earnings on personal consumption
On Oct 6, 2012, at 11:56 PM, Frederick Noronha wrote: The word BLOW is a value-loaded one. Who decides where someone should SPEND their money? Imagine headlines such as this: * Mineowners BLOW their earnings in Swiss bank accounts We can simply let our imagination run riot on this track... FN Yes ... It would indeed be a 'riotous' bit of imagination to even believe that those chaps BLOW their earnings in those accounts. jc On 7 October 2012 01:35, Jose Colaco cola...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 6, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Eugene Correia [1] Overseas Goans have become SHREWD to TO JOIN HANDS with the government or with local bodies because once the overseason Goans part with their money they are then subjected to a wild goose case. [2] Overseas Goans must think million times before venturing into Goa's business sector as joint-partners in any scheme. The risk is high. The government probably WANTS overseas Goans to blow their earnings in fattening their pockets. COMMENT: I agree with the CAUTION advised by Eugene, IF I have accurately understood his rather poorly scripted post. However, I wonder if it can be reasonably deduced that #s 12(supra) contradict each other. jc
Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans blow earnings on personal consumption
My dear Doc... You blew up wellblow this...blow that...blow sundry... But failed to celebrate the master-blower of all times: THE DEAR OLD NUT... the onle only virtuosa of blowdom...MONIKA LEWINSKY How could youman? Old Joepls give as wide publicity/support as you can... more to Carmita's SAVE GOA event. Monday, October 15 in London. I have already sent you programme, if not pls send an OWL ASAP The never sleeping Chacha his diabetes be demned... From: cola...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 08:33:54 -0400 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans blow earnings on personal consumption On Oct 6, 2012, at 11:56 PM, Frederick Noronha wrote: The word BLOW is a value-loaded one. Who decides where someone should SPEND their money? Imagine headlines such as this: * Mineowners BLOW their earnings in Swiss bank accounts We can simply let our imagination run riot on this track... FN Yes ... It would indeed be a 'riotous' bit of imagination to even believe that those chaps BLOW their earnings in those accounts. jc On 7 October 2012 01:35, Jose Colaco cola...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 6, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Eugene Correia [1] Overseas Goans have become SHREWD to TO JOIN HANDS with the government or with local bodies because once the overseason Goans part with their money they are then subjected to a wild goose case. [2] Overseas Goans must think million times before venturing into Goa's business sector as joint-partners in any scheme. The risk is high. The government probably WANTS overseas Goans to blow their earnings in fattening their pockets. COMMENT: I agree with the CAUTION advised by Eugene, IF I have accurately understood his rather poorly scripted post. However, I wonder if it can be reasonably deduced that #s 12(supra) contradict each other. jc
[Goanet] Overseas Goans blow earnings on personal consumption
I came accross an article on NT dated 6th October on the above subject written by Mr. Ramnath N Pai Raikar. A great article to read but i would like to make a mention of some facts. As i was reading his article i came accross the following ParagraphInterestingly, the statistics with the office of the Commissioner for NRI Affairs, Goa further states that the migration of high-skilled professionals, doctors, engineers, IT professionals and those in other knowledge economy sectors has been mostly to North America. At many Global Goan Conventions i have attended where the NRI office is well represented i was privileged to have been given an opportunity to speak my mind and i did mention the Goans overseas are ready to relocate back to Goa subject to the asurance from the Goa Government that Goans will be supported in every way on their investments and one of them is Information Technology ,i did mention that should Goan's invest in ICT in Goa ,the Government should give opportunites to these companies with some Projects in Computerization in different sectors ...why would someone leave a promising Job overseas and then invest in Goa when computerization projects are not being done by any Goan Company ..(i stand corrected) I would be pleased to read if any Goan IT company is implementing any major or even minor project of computerization of any department or Ministry in Goa. My requests to have the assurance from Goa Government to support Goan IT Companies who want to start something new and provide employemnt to many unemployed Goans who are bright but not being given an opportunity to explore fell on deaf years, More than being emotional or passionate about Goa we need to be real and address the factual aspect of it more than mere verbal ..many a times we impress readers with what one feels about a subject from one side of the coin and it is worth reading but if you read not between but through the lines the information may not be accurate . I would still stress through this forum /Goanet , how many IT projects to be implemented in Goa is on the Goa ICT stragtegy Plan , does Goa have an ICT strategy Plan ?Is it a Public document if so can i please have a copy of the same ..i would like to take it up from here and let me see how best i can get the support . Regards Vivek
Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans blow earnings on personal consumption
On Oct 6, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Eugene Correia [1] Overseas Goans have become SHREWD to TO JOIN HANDS with the government or with local bodies because once the overseason Goans part with their money they are then subjected to a wild goose case. [2] Overseas Goans must think million times before venturing into Goa's business sector as joint-partners in any scheme. The risk is high. The government probably WANTS overseas Goans to blow their earnings in fattening their pockets. COMMENT: I agree with the CAUTION advised by Eugene, IF I have accurately understood his rather poorly scripted post. However, I wonder if it can be reasonably deduced that #s 12(supra) contradict each other. jc
[Goanet] Overseas Goans Should Not Invite Our Corrupt
: Message-ID: 92b00f6d84d6c743b7fdc0fb16d8bd93014f4...@emaarntex1.emaar.ae Overseas Goans Should Not Invite Our Corrupt Politicians I am Tiatr lover and when I am in Goa I don't miss any. In Dubai too never used to miss. Recently our Tiatr organizers bring our corrupt Ministers as Chief Guests. Because of this I stopped attending Tiatrs in Dubai. One of our Dubai Tiatrist happened to meet a minister's daughter who has a title as social worker, for some help or development in their village.He was shocked with her responce. Bhik'reache kotten bhik galina zalear bhikari khoxal zaunk xokta? All are corrupt and I dont know what social work she did to have that title social worker. If she had worked against the corrupt politicians that title would have suit her, she herself is corrupt, ha ha ha.. social worker and advocate by profession. As Freddy said, all Goan Politicians must be kept away and I too agree to him. GOANS I know you are susegad and you stik to that title and remain quite. Some of our Overseas Goykar call you PIXE. I know you are not you all Goykar are XANE but don't want to open your mouth and talk' Remain quite and watch and say ANIK KONN ASSA GOYEM CHOLOUNK? This is not the time to remain quite, let's all join together to raise our voice against these Politicians and support GRA. Regards Peter Fernandes
[Goanet] Overseas Goans Should Not Invite Our Corrupt Politicians
Overseas Goans Should Not Invite Our Corrupt Politicians It is indeed unfortunate that Dubai and Kuwait are become second homes for our corrupt politicians and there are the few who would go to any lengths to appease these masters of corruption. These are the few people who for their own personal benefit are exploiting the love of our Goans for the football and Tiatr culture to propagate their own personal agendas. It is in the news that Churchill on his visit to Dubai spoke about honesty and virtues, Churchill talking about honesty is like a serial rapist talking about chastity. They both somehow know the value of the terms but do not practice it. During the San Joao celebration in Dubai, Churchill gate crashed uninvited and was booed off by a few of us. There are a lot of Goans in Dubai who loath our corrupt politicians and have shown their resentment in words, writings and actions as well. Though there are a few amongst us who have and will always betray for a few pieces of silver. Tiatr is a rare occasion here in Dubai and a good many Goans go for these tiatrs only because they love tiatrs more than they hate our politicians. Though there are many Goans in Dubai who have stopped going for tiatrs purely because our corrupt politicians are invited as chief guests, even though we love our tiatr culture but we do it as a sign of protest. In fact I have written on a lot of papers and on different Goan forums asking Goans to boycott these events where our corrupt politicians are invited as chief guests or guests of honour even though the word honour and Goan politicians are oxymoron in nature and status. Even in Goa we have football finals, feasts, inaugurations, foundations, tiatrs and even weddings where these corrupt politicians are honoured and acclaimed sometimes even by our religious leaders. The height of acrimony being, some even have memorial football tournament in honour of the next of kith and kin of one of the most inapt politician, who was killed by of our very own, brave customs officer in a smuggling raid. A lot of Goans in Goa and overseas were being overwhelmed by the power of money for a long long time and the welfare of Goa and Goans was forgotten and I hope 15th March will light the flame of love for Goa in us and remind us of our duty towards Goa and fellow Goans and help us to bring about a change in our perceptions, a change that every Goa loving Goan has been longing for. Let us support GRA in Large numbers on 15th March and show our solidarity and love for Goa. Goa Jai Ho !!! Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system.
[Goanet] Overseas Goans left out of Census enumeration
Overseas Goans left out of Census enumeration MARGAO, FEB 21 The ongoing census operation may not reflect Goa’s population, exactly, especially in minority dominated Salcete taluka. For, Goans working abroad – either on board ships or in the Gulf, Europe or USA – are not included in the census operations. With almost one member of each family in Salcete’s countryside is abroad for employment purpose, the census is unlikely to show the exact population in respective talukas. A senior census official, Gaonkar told Herald that only those staying in the State at this particular point of time when the operation is underway are to be included in the census. “These are the instructions which have been received from the Centre and they are being implemented in the State,” he added. Deputy Collector, Margao Johnson Fernandes said that instructions have been received by his office from the higher ups that only people presently staying in the state are to be enumerated by the officials. Census field staff say that these instructions have put them in a tight spot, especially in Velim, Chinchinim, Assolna and Cuncolim – which have a large number of seafarer community. A field official said they had to face double trouble while enumerating houses in Salcete villages. “We have come across head of the family dishing out all information, including those of children employed abroad for 6-9 months. It’s only when they are asked to specify the mode of transport used to travel to the work place, they disclose that the inmate is abroad. This leads to unnecessary arguments, with the people insisting on inclusion of names in the enumeration,” the official said. A senior official pointed out that they are helpless in the matter as they are required to go by the instructions. Admitting that seafarers working abroad return home every 6-9 months, the official said that instruction are crystal clear that names of only those staying in the state are to be included in the census. http://www.oheraldo.in/news/Local%20News/Overseas-Goans-left-out-of-Census-enumeration/45878.html
Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans can help save Goa
My Dear Goan Brothers and Sisters Residing in Goa the Overseas... I am not sure if I am right to say... why don't we request all our Niz Goemkars to come out with a signature campaign to kick out the illeterate politicians..perhaps this will lead us to the insight of some of our Niz Goemkars and help us to see the truth whether they are truly involved in saving Goa or just picking lice... suffice to say if we get the majority in the signature campaign...we can forward it to the Prime Minister to oust the present government and have new elections. In fact most of the Goans are hand in glove with the present government, who fulfill some of their degraded demands...such Goans should be socially boycotted...Anyways I wish we could save our Beautiful Goa, which once upon a time was given a high pedestal...and now being raped by self centered Goans and the 40 thieves... Gina From: Wilson Wilmix wilsonwil...@rediffmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Tue, 11 January, 2011 8:01:29 AM Subject: [Goanet] Overseas Goans can help save Goa Overseas Goans can help save Goa (Food for Thought) : WILMIX WILSON MAZARELLO There is no doubt, that the Overseas Goan community is the most concerned, about the future of Goa. It is not that Goans in Goa are not concerned. There are many in Goa too, who are genuinely concerned , but the Overseas Goans show it openly through their continuous writings in the local dailies and much more on the Internet. But my dear Overseas Goan Brothers and Sisters , showing concern and doing something about it , are 2 different things. We Goans in Goa , are very well known to talk , but when it comes to doing something about it , we are the first to run away from the situation. It is true, being away from home there is nothing else that the Overseas Goans can do, other than showing their concern by writing about it. You may also be right in saying that it is the Goans in Goa who should do something about it . But my dear Overseas Goans , you have already seen , over the last 50 years, what the Goans , in Goa, have been doing . We have been electing the “same old crooks” over and over again, to ensure that Goa is “plundered’ and “looted” beyond recognition. We Goans in Goa have been , not only working but slogging-it-out to ensure that the “same old crooks” get elected again and again so that they complete the work the work of “destruction” of Goa, they have already started . By this , we Goans in Goa have successfully manged to :- 1. Sell all Goan Property to Non-Goans. 2. Mow down as many Hills Forests of Goa , coupled with destruction of Goa,s Eco-System. 3. Mass conversions of all Agricultural land and Green Areas to Development-Areas. 4. Commercializing of all Goan Beaches, to the extent that local Goans have no access to Goan beaches. 5. Approve Airports in Goa, to serve the convenience of everyone else but Goans. 6. Widen Roads and build new Roads, by demolishing houses of only the poor Goans. 7. Start a process of forcing an Independent language (Our mother tongue Konkani) to become a dialect of Marathi. These are only few of the things we Goans in Goa have managed to achieve so far. You leave it to us for one more election-term and rest assured we will successfully manage to :- 1. Ensure that Goa is in fully owned by Politicians and Real Estate Developers . 2. Ensure that all Goan Property will be owned by Non-Goans . They will be our Masters and we their humble Servants. 3. Convert all N.G.Os (Non-Govt.-Organizatios) , to G.Os (Govt. Organizations). These include, Organizations like “Goa Bacchao Abhiyan” etc. , which will be given Government Grants and the main Office Bearers will be nominated by the Government. 4. Pass a Bill preventing Overseas Goans from returning to Goa as they are to be treated as migrants. 5. Amend the “Official language Bill of Goa” to read as “Marathi will be the Official Language of Goa , and all dialects of Marathi including Konkani , may be used for Official purposes”. My dear Overseas Goans, this is not one of my “funny stories” like the type I normally write. But, this is a “real-forecast ” of things to come. Many , right-thinking Goans , have put their minds together , on this issue, in the past and all of them have come to just one solution, ie. “Change the Politics of Goa by bringing in newer people into Politics. Bring in people with strong moral character, especially from the Youth”. No amount of shouting , no amount of writing can save Goa now. The one only thing that can save Goa , is Goans fielding Candidates , who will work for Goa , and not for themselves. But, who will decide on such “selfless” candidates ? We all will. Let’s sit together to decide. Let’s take it as our joint responsibility. Remember, if everyone shuns away from this responsibility, the same “filth” will prevail and we
Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans can help save Goa
Gina Fernandes writes: I am not sure if I am right to say... why don't we request all our Niz Goemkars to come out with a signature campaign to kick out the illeterate politicians.. Response: Neither am I, dear Gina. For one thing most of our politicians are not illiterate (and by the way illiterate is not spelt 'illeterate') Most have decent educational qualifications and even those that do not, have an intelligence that usually far exceeds that of those who may have a string of degrees. They also have the capacity to embody the aspirations of large numbers of people; they have the ability to mobilize people; they are opinion leaders ... These sorts of qualities are not very simple to acquire and retain. Some people think that just money and muscle power will win elections: if that were true then the Tatas, the Birlas or the Dempos and the Chowgules would be Prime Ministers and Chief Ministers. (Someone may point out that Anil Salgaocar is an MLA - true, but remember that he is just a fringe player as a politician at least as of now; and that position too he has gained after considerable effort for he lost an election the first time round). True money and muscle are factors but I don't think that voters really can be bought: if they had realistic choices and not just token 'honest' candidates to choose from they would have been elected in. The problem with our politicians is their values: and these values are strangely just like our own. Like us they worship money. The difference is that unlike us who do what we do half heartedly, they take their God very seriously, and they do whatever it takes to appease this deity. This is why they are so successful in whatever they do. Those who look down upon politicians do not understand politics and will never be able to throw those politicians out. Look at your letter, dear Gina. Sitting comfortably in some foreign clime you hold on to the touching belief that writing letters and starting signature campaigns will change the political scenario in Goa. Sigh. Having said that let me not discourage you. Please don't stop your earnest efforts. If you can prove my cynical views to be wrong then I'd be glad to be wrong. Cheers Augusto -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India E pinto...@gmail.com or ypinto...@yahoo.co.in P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans can help save Goa
Augusto, If your statement below is true, then you are also saying that Goans have the leaders they want (and deserve). Therefore you have proved by argument Gina's contention that only overseas Goans can save Goa, since the present lot of leaders are without doubt the worst lot you can possibly get. This is not what I believe (that overseas Goans can save Goa), but this is the conclusion from your argument. I hope you have read the post by Camillo Fernandes about the leaders Goa was fortunate to have just after 1961. Just compare them to now. Roland. Toronto Augusto Pinto writes: They also have the capacity to embody the aspirations of large numbers of people; they have the ability to mobilize people; they are opinion leaders ...
[Goanet] Overseas Goans can help save Goa
Overseas Goans can help save Goa (Food for Thought) : WILMIX WILSON MAZARELLO There is no doubt, that the Overseas Goan community is the most concerned, about the future of Goa. It is not that Goans in Goa are not concerned. There are many in Goa too, who are genuinely concerned , but the Overseas Goans show it openly through their continuous writings in the local dailies and much more on the Internet. But my dear Overseas Goan Brothers and Sisters , showing concern and doing something about it , are 2 different things. We Goans in Goa , are very well known to talk , but when it comes to doing something about it , we are the first to run away from the situation. It is true, being away from home there is nothing else that the Overseas Goans can do, other than showing their concern by writing about it. You may also be right in saying that it is the Goans in Goa who should do something about it . But my dear Overseas Goans , you have already seen , over the last 50 years, what the Goans , in Goa, have been doing . We have been electing the “same old crooks” over and over again, to ensure that Goa is “plundered’ and “looted” beyond recognition. We Goans in Goa have been , not only working but slogging-it-out to ensure that the “same old crooks” get elected again and again so that they complete the work the work of “destruction” of Goa, they have already started . By this , we Goans in Goa have successfully manged to :- 1. Sell all Goan Property to Non-Goans. 2. Mow down as many Hills Forests of Goa , coupled with destruction of Goa,s Eco-System. 3. Mass conversions of all Agricultural land and Green Areas to Development-Areas. 4. Commercializing of all Goan Beaches, to the extent that local Goans have no access to Goan beaches. 5. Approve Airports in Goa, to serve the convenience of everyone else but Goans. 6. Widen Roads and build new Roads, by demolishing houses of only the poor Goans. 7. Start a process of forcing an Independent language (Our mother tongue Konkani) to become a dialect of Marathi. These are only few of the things we Goans in Goa have managed to achieve so far. You leave it to us for one more election-term and rest assured we will successfully manage to :- 1. Ensure that Goa is in fully owned by Politicians and Real Estate Developers . 2. Ensure that all Goan Property will be owned by Non-Goans . They will be our Masters and we their humble Servants. 3. Convert all N.G.Os (Non-Govt.-Organizatios) , to G.Os (Govt. Organizations). These include, Organizations like “Goa Bacchao Abhiyan” etc. , which will be given Government Grants and the main Office Bearers will be nominated by the Government. 4. Pass a Bill preventing Overseas Goans from returning to Goa as they are to be treated as migrants. 5. Amend the “Official language Bill of Goa” to read as “Marathi will be the Official Language of Goa , and all dialects of Marathi including Konkani , may be used for Official purposes”. My dear Overseas Goans, this is not one of my “funny stories” like the type I normally write. But, this is a “real-forecast ” of things to come. Many , right-thinking Goans , have put their minds together , on this issue, in the past and all of them have come to just one solution, ie. “Change the Politics of Goa by bringing in newer people into Politics. Bring in people with strong moral character, especially from the Youth”. No amount of shouting , no amount of writing can save Goa now. The one only thing that can save Goa , is Goans fielding Candidates , who will work for Goa , and not for themselves. But, who will decide on such “selfless” candidates ? We all will. Let’s sit together to decide. Let’s take it as our joint responsibility. Remember, if everyone shuns away from this responsibility, the same “filth” will prevail and we will have lost Goa forever. This may be our last chance to save our beloved Goa. Today we are a little over a year away, from the next Assembly Elections. I strongly feel, that there are many among Goans , who have the “will” to stand for Elections and do something for Goa, but they do not have the “big-money” that is normally required to fight an election. It is here that the the Overseas Goans can be of great help. I don’t mean to say that the Overseas Goans should ‘shell-out” all their life’s savings into this. No! But , by just by setting aside Ind. Rs. 100/- for saving Goa , 5 Lakh Overseas Goans can collect Ind. Rs. 5 crores . This could easily finance the election campaign of 10 candidates @ Ind. Rs. 50,00,000/= per candidate. Is this something very difficult ? Think it over, my fellow Overseas Goans. Each one of you, could do your bit to “SAVE GOA” , your Motherland , for just Rs. 100/-. If you lose this opportunity, in the forthcoming Elections, it may be too late for Goa. Goa could be lost for ever. Come together. Fight over it , if
[Goanet] Overseas Goans Act !!
In this month of December, we see many overseas Goans who have come to Goa on Holidays. Surely, many are here to celebrate the Festive Season and indulge in relaxation/enjoyment, via various events. How good it will be for Goa and Goans, if these Goans take some time to see how they can contribute to the betterment of their towns villages. Overseas Goans have gained the best of Global Best Practices and are aware of latest developments; surely we can put our rich expertise and knowledge back into our home state and help make Goa into the place we want it to be; and preserve our prized identity. Even a little effort by each overseas Goan can result in a gigantic combined effort. We might be residing abroad but we should not forget where we came from!! Arwin Mesquita (UAE) -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/ 6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim 7. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
[Goanet] Overseas Goans issues are same as Local Goans
Dear Goans The below Letters (all in December) are mainly for the benefit of Goans who argue that issues of Overseas Goans are not the same s Local Goans. These are only a selected few of the many that appear in the Goan Media. Arwin Mesquita ** *http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=31287cid=13* ** *Liberation or false dawn? Zino Carvalho, Davorlim *As Goa completes 48 years of its Liberation, despite the tremendous progress we have made since 1961, the people hope that the Central Government would grant special status to the state. But this has not yet materialised. The feeling of being colonised has not yet left us. At present we are concerned by the influx of immigrants, lack of job opportunities, sale of land, exploitation of mines, stench of rancid garbage at every nook and corner, plundering of agricultural fields and green zones for concrete mega projects, sky-rocketing prices and cost of living, full implementation of the Official Language Act, etc. Goa was not part of the Constituent Assembly deliberations. It was liberated through army intervention in 1961. We missed the first two Five-Year Plans. In order to preserve our identity, culture, land we need special status like Himachal Pradesh, Uttaranchal or Jammu Kashmir to regulate or restrict ownership and transfer of land to non-Goans. Goa ought to have been given the special status soon after Liberation as promised by the then central government, led by Jawaharlal Nehru, who had assured Goans that he would do this to preserve the unique Goan identity for our future generations. -- *Viva Liberation! Joel Morais, Cuncolim *Liberation changed Green Goa to a concrete jungle. Liberation opened the doors and welcomed the criminals. Liberation welcomed the communal fanatics to create communal riots and bomb blasts. Liberation opened a market to sell government jobs. Liberation allowed the rich and the powerful to have their own laws. Liberation welcomed pollution to pollute our ground water. Liberation allowed the rape of our virgin beaches. Liberation welcomed the River Princess to take shelter in Candolim. Liberation allowed the sons and daughters of top government officers to use and crash government cars. Liberation allowed the elected people in power to use official force against the sons and the daughters of the soil. Liberation converted us from the slaves of Portuguese law to the slaves of our own law. Last but not the least, Liberation will once again welcome the elected licensed Goa looters to hoist the holy flag of our beloved country on 19 December. http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=31273cid=14 *Reflections on the Eve of Liberation Day* *We deceive ourselves if we feel everything in Goa is fine, while our identity, culture and survival are at stake, says DR JOE D’SOUZA* Since 1961, every 19th December, Goans celebrate their ‘Liberation Day’ from their colonial masters. The Indian Army took over the administration of Goa from the Portuguese in a smooth operation, before anyone in Goa knew anything much. Power was peacefully transferred without any bloodshed and with no loss of life. But as I lie on my bed, lazily reflecting on the past, my mind poses a question: “Is Goa truly liberated?” I belong to the generation which can vividly remember and reflect about those good old days with their pleasant times. I belong to the era wherein as a child I could sea no evil, as I wasn’t big enough to know and understand much about the difference between Indian democracy and Portuguese dictatorship. My interaction with the Portuguese pakles was at the check post, each time I visited Goa from Mumbai (then Bombay) for the annual summer holidays. What Aunty Laura used to do as a freedom fighter then mattered to the extent that we missed her company during the time she was in the freedom movement. Good fish, lots of cheese and a tinge of port wine was on the table for us to relish, especially when she was around. Lots of oysters, big crabs and mussels fresh from the River Chapora used to find their way to our home from the nearby fishing canoes. In the 1950s our lives in Mumbai were a bitter struggle, I can remember famines, rationed food and study under dim lights or sometimes under electric poles. But once in Goa, it was like going from hell to Paradise. My granny used to rear pigs and fowls, grow vegetables and ensure that plenty of mangoes, jackfruits and tender coconuts remained on our trees. Taking a bath straight from the brass pot drawn from the village well on a hot summer afternoon and again under the banana plantation, either by moonlight or the dim light of a small kerosene lamp, was an enchanting experience. A wholesome and healthy quality of life for our family all through the erstwhile Portuguese regime under Salazar made me ponder if liberation for Goa is truly achieved, especially as the life in the state for the niz Goemkar is becoming increasingly tough and challenging. Mining beyond
Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans Are Null and Void
Dear Roland, My broadband connectivity was interrupted as of Sunday, 3/Aug - 3.00 p.m. IST. Therefore there was a pile-up in my inbox. The connectivity was restored only today, 5/Aug at noon. First thing I did was to clear the second project of Citizens' [Of Goa] Initiative - Re: the www.goamurdermystery.com , which was sitting in my outbox since yesterday, to net distribution lists as well as to all newspapers for info (dunno if they will air it) and hardly had time to scan the pile of mail. Beside the subject of your post above is such that I thought it was something to do with the Toronto Convention and therefore skipped it. I have gone thro it only due to Miguel's alert. Most gracious of you to offer such a large amount in one go. THANK YOU. And I shall accept your one hundred dollars US on my own terms, the terms that I have made public vide my post preceeding the CI's debate. (subject: Citizen's [Of Goa] Intiative begins TODAY - 30 JULY 2008 - 4.30 p.m. ) To spell the terms again, (1) The Convenor of the 'CI' must be a rotating Convenor (2) The three 'Registers' that I have compiled must be maintained and rotated for each new CI's projects. (3)Whosoever feels that a certain issue must be taken up, shall be the next convenor of the 'CI' and the entire bundle must change hands. (4) Box for depositing petty cash must always be displayed at the venue and attendees must be reminded that they are the 'hosts' and not 'invitees', and therefore they must pay, whatever they feel like to spread the word that 'small money from a lot of people makes better sense than a lot of money from one person'. (5) Main Register must reflect the Accounts (Receipts Expenses) of each project as it takes place as well as these must be publicised on the net for transparency's sake. (6) No bank account is necessary if the above is followed as the Bank account operation requires permanent signatories. This is intended to be the rolling trophy. So let it roll away. And, Miguel is most welcome to broad base the 'CI'. Let it roll ahead and generate a stampede. (Ofcourse, not the type that we read in papers over religious pilgrimages :-)). Besides, my name as the 'convenor' of CI has cropped up twice already. I don't want the wise chirp 'FAMILIARITY BREEDS CONTEMPT' to make its mark with 'CI' :-) Therefore Roland, you may post a local 'crossed cheque' to me in my name and that will be just fine. Let me assure you that I shall pay myself fully from this and whatever remains in the kitty will be passed on to set a precedent which is just and right. NO ONE SHUD TAKE CREDIT FOR CI The credit must go to the CITIZENS OF GOA. Thank you once again for your magnanimous offer. I am sorry that you had to feel that there were no takers for it. By all means, Goa needs more of its kind but on the basis of a very very transparent system as explained above. Of course, the system might have inherent flaws but it can be improved to make it very very very transparent. Goan expats have given a lot of money, before, for lots of so called 'sincere' causes and the money has taken a tall walk :-) . This must and will not not happen with the 'CITIZENS' [OF GOA] INITIATIVE. B/rgds floriano Original Message - From: Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 12:38 AM Subject: [Goanet] Overseas Goans Are Null and Void A message to the Goans in Goa, if you didn't already know. Diaspora Goans are a pretty useless lot as far as the political problems in Goa are concerned. We huff and we puff and we pretend that we have to be kept informed of what happens. We give all sort of opinions and comments but the truth is we don't know any of the ground realities of modern day Goa. We are really like the grand father of the family gathering. We sit in an armchair, bow our head and acknowledge the respect and awe of the younger relatives. But since we are circumstantially inactive, we have no leadership to give. It is necessary that the Goans in Goa rising as one body must feel the need for change. It is also necessary that they throw up their own leaders that can spark the change to create the fire. Overseas Goans have no right to tell them what the change must be nor whether they must make their change at all. We have no right to criticize their leaders beyond giving them the help they need. Personally I am impressed that Floriano and his team have organized what may be the beginning of a growing citizens' initiative. I know that people in Goa will identify for themselves what they need or do not need and how best to galvanize and steer their own changes. I am surprised that he has had to pocket the loss. In my own little way I wish to contribute a hundred dollars to that kitty. I am hopeful that instead of mere talk we add to that so in future he does not have to worry about the money when he wants to make change within
Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans Are Null and Void
--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diaspora Goans are a pretty useless lot as far as the political problems in Goa are concerned. We huff and we puff and we pretend that we have to be kept informed of what happens. We give all sort of opinions and comments but the truth is we don't know any of the ground realities of modern day Goa. Dear Roland, A brief reply - I do no know if your opinion has been formed based on your recent (alleged) bad experience in Toronto or some other source or a Catholic Goan experience. But what you have written is not entirely true (however, I grant there is some truth in it). Since you mentioned political problems in the first paragraph, I will beriefly respond. To wit - 1. The shrewd Manohar Parrikar would not have come here with two MLAs and other BJP party members at their OWN expense to the G.O.A. convention in Silicon Valley last month if overseas Goans are null and void. He certainly did not need a social visit to the USA. 2. Are you aware of the top 5 contributors to the two major parties in Goa in this Year? Might surprize you how many are non-Goa based and certainly not null and void. 3. Who provided seed money to start the GOAN OBSERVOR? Rajan Narayan is a colorful character but there is more truth in his weekly, than in the three mining-owned English dailies combined. 4. Are you aware of the current effort of overseas Goans to contribute to the political landscape of Goa? I am not at liberty to publicly discuss now but I suspect you are not aware of what is happening based on your post. I would not write off overseas Goans as null and void. In fact some of the arguments you made applies to SOME Goans in Goa with the same old politicians benefitting from the same old support (although this is not a Goa-based versus Goan overseas issue). But you won't score brownie-points with some Goa-based Goans for writing that. Regards George
[Goanet] Overseas Goans are '' null and void ''
On August 2, Roland Francis wrote: ''We don't know any of the ground realities of modern day Goa.We can pretend our conventions make a difference. They do zilch of that sort at all.But what must be our greatest taboo is to tell Goans in Goa what is right and what is wrong and the biggest taboo of all - how to solve their problems.We have no right to criticize their leaders beyong giving them the help they need.
Re: [Goanet] Overseas Goans Are Null and Void
2008/8/2 Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A message to the Goans in Goa, if you didn't already know. Diaspora Goans are a pretty useless lot as far as the political problems in Goa are concerned. We huff and we puff and we pretend that we have to be kept informed of what happens. . We can pretend our conventions make a difference. They do zilch of that sort at all. Roland Francis Toronto +1 (416) 453.3371 RESPONSE: I do think that Overseas Goans still matter, even if it is in a small way, to Goa. In this I agree with what George has written. I also agree with you that conventions in my opinion produce nothing tangible. We have had several conventions, think tanks and the like here in London, including one which was captioned 'Save Goa' ! For example in 2001 it was mooted to buy commercial property, reasons for this not being a possibility were given. When we eventually bought property it was residential and at its peak. If readers are interested please click on to the URL below, to have some sort of insight into how things work with Goans here. http://www.goauk.com/artman/publish/article_564.shtml The gist of what Eugene wrote is given further credence and prominence; it is featured in 'Goan Voice', together with a photograph of Eugene:- http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/ -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
[Goanet] Overseas Goans Are Null and Void
Roland said:- We can do nothing against the builders or the land grabs or the political, civic and police mismanagement. All that is too big for us. We can sit in our drawing rooms, dance at our social get-togethers, shop for our Lexuses and talk of downsizing from large home to smaller ones. Mostly for the large profits or perhaps the weary bones that no longer permit us to mow the lawn or plow the snow. We can pretend our conventions make a difference. They do zilch of that sort at all. --- Hi, We can do nothing about this socio-economic disease world wide. Look at UK, the UN are now saying that the people of UK should be more tolerant towards others here. Question is, are other countries doing the same, can we build churches in Saudi Arabia? is what the news papers in UK are asking. ED. __ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html
[Goanet] Overseas Goans Are Null and Void
A message to the Goans in Goa, if you didn't already know. Diaspora Goans are a pretty useless lot as far as the political problems in Goa are concerned. We huff and we puff and we pretend that we have to be kept informed of what happens. We give all sort of opinions and comments but the truth is we don't know any of the ground realities of modern day Goa. We are really like the grand father of the family gathering. We sit in an armchair, bow our head and acknowledge the respect and awe of the younger relatives. But since we are circumstantially inactive, we have no leadership to give. The only place we can make a marginal difference is to support social causes. We can put our shoulders (or rather our dollars) to the wheels of a Goa Sudharop or to help out a small individual that arises and is brought to our attention. The publicity we get for this is far more than we deserve. We can do nothing against the builders or the land grabs or the political, civic and police mismanagement. All that is too big for us. We can sit in our drawing rooms, dance at our social get-togethers, shop for our Lexuses and talk of downsizing from large home to smaller ones. Mostly for the large profits or perhaps the weary bones that no longer permit us to mow the lawn or plow the snow. We can pretend our conventions make a difference. They do zilch of that sort at all. If the truth be known, we can do nothing beyond express a sentiment for the Goa we knew. We need not apologize for making a decision to leave the land of our birth. That is what we have decided and whether happy or not, we have to make the most of it. But what must be our greatest taboo is to tell the Goans in Goa what is right and what is wrong and the biggest taboo of all - how to solve their problems. We can dream of all the lush greenery of our villages, the general honesty of the Goans we knew. The cleanliness of the streets of Panjim, Margao and Mapusa, the uprightness of the administration that once was. As long as they are dreams and we ensure that we place a disconnect between what was possible then and what is happening now. There is no bridge between the two and if there is a road that must be built, it will be done with the efforts of Goans in Goa. I do not trivialize the efforts of overseas Goans who go to Goa for more than a holiday or RR and try to make what difference they can. I am sure they get the satisfaction that we who do not or cannot do, will never get. But beyond personal satisfaction, and except for the rare Rajan Parrikar, alas even they make little difference. It is necessary that the Goans in Goa rising as one body must feel the need for change. It is also necessary that they throw up their own leaders that can spark the change to create the fire. Overseas Goans have no right to tell them what the change must be nor whether they must make their change at all. We have no right to criticize their leaders beyond giving them the help they need. Personally I am impressed that Floriano and his team have organized what may be the beginning of a growing citizens' initiative. I know that people in Goa will identify for themselves what they need or do not need and how best to galvanize and steer their own changes. I am surprised that he has had to pocket the loss. In my own little way I wish to contribute a hundred dollars to that kitty. I am hopeful that instead of mere talk we add to that so in future he does not have to worry about the money when he wants to make change within democracy work in Goa. Roland Francis Toronto +1 (416) 453.3371
[Goanet] Overseas support for the Save Goa Campaign.
Dear All: Please see letter below from Ms Susan Casey which I have posted with her permission. Regards Arwin. Good afternoon to all at the Save Goa campaign, I wanted to write a mail to you to express my support for your campaign. It may sound a little crazy but I am also a resident of England and I have been in the very fortunate position of visiting India and Goa for over 11 years now and I not only feel outraged by the current situation in Goa posed by the infiltration of so many tourists and foreign settlers but really severely sickened. I know that not all foreigners arrive with a negative view and influence and some really do feel the same as we all do here in this forum but I cannot express my sorrow and apologies enough to the Goan residents for the severity of the situation both ecologically and culturally due to the demands of the ever growing tourist sector. I adore Goa and its people as I do India as a whole but my recent visits to Goa have left me with a very bad taste, and this I may conclude is not due to the influence of Goans but from the negative influence of my fellow man visiting from various parts of Europe and the westernised world. And yet with every visit I make to Goa the evidence is laid bare with more and more land being converted to apartment blocks and hotel / housing projects at an alarming rate that the scene is only set to worsen. The situation has upset me so much that I decided to devote my major university project to the documentation of the negative effects felt through over and irresponsible tourism practices within Goa, both on an ecological and cultural basis. My project looked not only at the coastal belt but at the blatant destruction and demise of important ecological niches and cultural inheritance across all areas including the Goan interior and as far as the majestic Sahyadris. Unfortunately the supermarket culture of the UK and other westernised countries is encroaching into your homestead and I urge you take action before it is too late. The very reason that people began to flock to Goa was due its incredible display of natural beauty in all its varied and diverse forms along with the wonderful susegad lifestyle. In this whimsical world we live, once the natural beauty has expired due to degradation caused by the ever increasing demands of the tourism industry the tourists themselves would never return. This may sound over the top and melodramatic but unfortunately, and I am ashamed to say that this is the mantra of a huge percentage of our society as ours is increasingly delving into the deepest depths of a throw away society / lifestyle. I know that with a healthy tourism sector money comes too, but as time passes more and more international chains and foreign investments are taking over the market in Goa and as they do the demise of local industries goes hand in hand. Who is actually benefiting from this infiltration? I hope to return to Goa for many years to come as my experiences, mainly away from the coastal belt still leave me intoxicated by the beauty and warmth displayed by the nature and incredible people of Goa. Please do not let my countrymen spoil the beauty you behold, it is far too vitally important on so many levels to let that happen. Allow the beauty which Goa beholds to shine out for many years to come; please do not allow it to become another statistic as a ruined and rotten place which was once so much more. On a biodiversity point your species richness within the state of Goa is really quite phenomenal but already it is massive decline again partly due to the influence of over and irresponsible tourism with its destruction and fragmentation of important habitat sites, excess garbage contaminating ground water and killing marine and terrestrial species and wasteful energy consumption. Goa has well and truly exceeded its carrying capacity and without careful reconsideration of how to build its future the future could look very bleak indeed. It is up to us all to provide safe and protected areas for all species to thrive, the beaches, forests and hills which are now effected were for thousands of years home to other species other than man himself, we should all respect this fact and help in this plight to provide protection at every level. I thank you for your patience and I wish you every success with this campaign. Kind Regards Susan Casey. Yorkshire, England. -- Please read my Blog: http://arwinmesquita.wordpress.com/category/goan-identity/page/3/
[Goanet] Overseas Indian Facilitation Centre (OIFC)
The Ministry of Overseas Indian Affairs (MOIA), Government of India has set up an Overseas Indian Facilitation Centre (OIFC) as a not-for-profit-Trust in partnership with Confederation of Indian Industry (CII). The Centre will be a one-stop-shop for serving the interests of the Overseas Indian Community and has the mandate to cover two broad areas, viz., Investment Facilitation and Knowledge Networking. 2. The objectives of the Centre are: (i) Promote Overseas Indian Investment into India and facilitate business partnership by giving authentic and real time information; (ii)Function as clearinghouse for all investment related information. This would be done by processing information on a real time basis through ICT platform; (iii) Establish and maintain a Diaspora Knowledge Network (DKN) by creating a database of Overseas Indians, who would act as Knowledge Diaspora and whose knowledge resources could be using ICT platform; (iv) The objectives of the OIFC will be to bring the Indian States, Indian Business and potential Overseas Indian Investors on the same platform and to facilitate the investors to identify the investment opportunities; (v)Provide a host of advisory services to PIO and NRIs. These could include matters such as consular questions, stay in India, investment and financial issues, etc. 3.The OIFC, formally launched in May 2007, is being managed by the CII. Further details on the Centre may be obtained from Ms. Subha Rajan, Chief Executive Officer, Overseas India Facilitation Centre, Plot No. 249-F, Sector 18, Udyog Vihar, Phase-IV, Gurgaon-122015, Haryana, India. - Tel. 91-124-4014060-67 {Extn. 374}; 4014055 (D); Fax:91-124-4014080; or from the website: www.oifc.in - Forwarded by www.goa-world.com - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[Goanet] overseas jobs directory
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. As the debate on Goans abroad and Goans in Goa, comes the news that Eduardo Faleiro is compilining an overseas jobs directory for Goans who wish to go outside the country and work. Doesn't this say much or the Goan economy? Since there are not many jobs coming up in Goa, the Goa government is indirectly encouraging Goans to go abroad. Seems defeatist, but the government knows its shortcomings. Eugene It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
Re: [Goanet] overseas jobs directory
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Goans will migrate, so why stop them. It is not necessary a no jobs issue, but just that Goans (particularly Catholic Goans) need to get the migration virus out of their system before they can settle down to a less-dissatisfied existence. My question is something else: do you need a costly government department or commissionarate or whatever, headed by a person with ministerial status, to undertake such a job? Isn't the private sector able to do it? It not, why not? FN On 08/03/07, Eugene Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the debate on Goans abroad and Goans in Goa, comes the news that Eduardo Faleiro is compilining an overseas jobs directory for Goans who wish to go outside the country and work. Doesn't this say much or the Goan economy? Since there are not many jobs coming up in Goa, the Goa government is indirectly encouraging Goans to go abroad. Seems defeatist, but the government knows its shortcomings. -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com What bloggers are saying about Goa: http://planet.goa-india.org/
[Goanet] OVERSEAS GOANS NEED TO BE HEARD AND NOT JUST FETED
Goa cannot afford to be forever hospitable. Yet another State-sponsored fiesta is taking off by way of a three day Global Goans Convention from 3rd to 5th Jan. This edition of the now annual ritual will cost the taxpayers almost half a crore rupees if not more. That money could have been better spent in hotmixing Panaji's internal roads, which are in a critical and pathetic condition. Every one knows the issues of concern to Goans overseas. There is no need to hold these annual conclaves which anyway is not attended by many non-resident Goans. There have been so many International Goan Conventions that have deliberated issues concerning Goa and related to Non-Resident Goans. What we need is some action on the part of the government to redress the concerns and demands of Goans living abroad. Now that the damage to the state exchequer has been done, the Convention should at least deliberate the anti-Goa, anti-people and anti-environment Goa Regional Plan 2011. The non resident Goans should realize that the destruction of the green belt surrounding our urban areas will cause havoc to the fragile ecosystem as Goa will be turned into an urban jungle. This Goa Regional Plan 2011 will open the floodgates of uncontrolled migration from the rest of India and Goans will be literally a dying breed. We need to develop an environmental vision for Goa. We need to sink our political differences and be very concerned about Goas environmental and ecological future. Many Non resident Goans (NRG) after years of service abroad long to settle in the land of their origin. But for many reasons they get disheartened and give up. Many Goans feel the urge to play a role in shaping the future of Goa but the authorities would have to play their part to encourage them to return and invest their skills and savings in the land of their roots. The very high level of corruption in Goa is something every NRG detests. So a war on corruption by the Government of Goa could be the starting point in bringing Goa closer to every NRG. The modern NRGs are far more professional, skilled, articulate, motivated, caring and affluent than the previous generation. They have an empathy towards Goa and regard it more than just another holiday destination. These sentiments have to be tapped by the Government with the aim of seeking mutual benefit. All too often the Government is out to exploit and fleece them. The bureaucratic processes endemic in Indian methodology puts off many Non Residents from investing locally. NRGs also feel that the prospects of a good education in Goa for their children are bleak and that is something the Government should focus on. Good hospitals and quality professional educational institutions are something Goa so dearly needs. Overall, if Goas infrastructure is improved this will motivate many NRGs to come back and set up shop in the place that is so dear to them. But like in other States of India, politicians have their fingers in every pie, and nothing runs professionally or free from political interference. In recent years a lot of Goan politicians have made overseas trips, ostensibly to study projects abroad. It was expected that they would bring home some ideas to improve things here. Unfortunately, these trips at taxpayer expense have in reality been shopping and sightseeing junkets for our ever so greedy politicians. Who can blame the NRGs from despising our politicians after witnessing them in action abroad? Some action and not another extravagant convention is the need of the hour. There is no point draining the state exchequer by way of these farcical conventions with no clear agenda and only merry making at public cost. Aires Rodrigues - C/G-2, Shopping Complex, Ribandar Retreat, Ribandar - Goa - 403 006 Tel: 0832- 2444012 Off , 0832- 2443308 Res, Mobile: 09822684372 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] OVERSEAS GOANS NEED TO BE HEARD AND NOT JUST FETED
Goa cannot afford to be forever hospitable. Yet another State-sponsored fiesta is taking off by way of a three day Global Goans Convention from 3rd to 5th Jan. This edition of the now annual ritual will cost the taxpayers almost half a crore rupees if not more. That money could have been better spent in hotmixing Panaji's internal roads, which are in a critical and pathetic condition. Every one knows the issues of concern to Goans overseas. There is no need to hold these annual conclaves which anyway is not attended by many non-resident Goans. There have been so many International Goan Conventions that have deliberated issues concerning Goa and related to Non-Resident Goans. What we need is some action on the part of the government to redress the concerns and demands of Goans living abroad. Now that the damage to the state exchequer has been done, the Convention should at least deliberate the anti-Goa, anti-people and anti-environment Goa Regional Plan 2011. The non resident Goans should realize that the destruction of the green belt surrounding our urban areas will cause havoc to the fragile ecosystem as Goa will be turned into an urban jungle. This Goa Regional Plan 2011 will open the floodgates of uncontrolled migration from the rest of India and Goans will be literally a dying breed. We need to develop an environmental vision for Goa. We need to sink our political differences and be very concerned about Goas environmental and ecological future. Many Non resident Goans (NRG) after years of service abroad long to settle in the land of their origin. But for many reasons they get disheartened and give up. Many Goans feel the urge to play a role in shaping the future of Goa but the authorities would have to play their part to encourage them to return and invest their skills and savings in the land of their roots. The very high level of corruption in Goa is something every NRG detests. So a war on corruption by the Government of Goa could be the starting point in bringing Goa closer to every NRG. The modern NRGs are far more professional, skilled, articulate, motivated, caring and affluent than the previous generation. They have an empathy towards Goa and regard it more than just another holiday destination. These sentiments have to be tapped by the Government with the aim of seeking mutual benefit. All too often the Government is out to exploit and fleece them. The bureaucratic processes endemic in Indian methodology puts off many Non Residents from investing locally. NRGs also feel that the prospects of a good education in Goa for their children are bleak and that is something the Government should focus on. Good hospitals and quality professional educational institutions are something Goa so dearly needs. Overall, if Goas infrastructure is improved this will motivate many NRGs to come back and set up shop in the place that is so dear to them. But like in other States of India, politicians have their fingers in every pie, and nothing runs professionally or free from political interference. In recent years a lot of Goan politicians have made overseas trips, ostensibly to study projects abroad. It was expected that they would bring home some ideas to improve things here. Unfortunately, these trips at taxpayer expense have in reality been shopping and sightseeing junkets for our ever so greedy politicians. Who can blame the NRGs from despising our politicians after witnessing them in action abroad? Some action and not another extravagant convention is the need of the hour. There is no point draining the state exchequer by way of these farcical conventions with no clear agenda and only merry making at public cost. Aires Rodrigues - C/G-2, Shopping Complex, Ribandar Retreat, Ribandar - Goa - 403 006 Tel: 0832- 2444012 Off , 0832- 2443308 Res, Mobile: 09822684372 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Overseas ......
In my opinion, in the short run, no difference. In the longer run, OCI. As a naturalized US citizen, I have a ten year visa for India, and will switch to the OCI when it expires. The only difference for me is that with the OCI I can stay in India as long as I like per visit, but only 6 months at a time with my visa. Mario. --- percy ferrao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Fred/Goanetters ! PIO v/s OCI Card. What's most suitable ? Regds Percy Ferrao Ealing Road. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Overseas ......
Dear Fred/Goanetters ! PIO v/s OCI Card. What's most suitable ? Regds Percy Ferrao Ealing Road. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org