[Goanet] Roland Francis: Gulf Goans - Stray Thoughts of a Toronto Goan (Rose Fernandes)

2013-05-13 Thread Melvyn Fernandes
Dear goanet readers,

Over the last few weeks, I have to admit not reading Roland Francis's stray 
thoughts. His articles tend to tax my grey cells like Sudoku and these days I 
am all for a quiet life in front of the fire. Yes, fire  in the United 
Kingdom we may once have had four seasons winter, spring, summer and autumn but 
we are now down to one winter gloom to match our economic doom. 

Trying to follow the FN and JC latest goanet fire thread proved tricky until 
finally I gave in and read Roland Francis's "Gulf Goans - Stray Thoughts of a 
Toronto Goan".   What he wrote in his last paragraph was fascinating: Quote: If 
there is one 'take-away' from all this, it is that someone up there has always 
taken care of the well-being of Goans. The Portuguese didn't do it and the 
Indians are certainly far from doing it as well. Unquote

Roland Francis is not the only one who feels about the Portuguese this way. 
Recently, in conversation with a Goan Catholic priest, he implied much the same 
until I reminded him that if it had not been for the Portuguese he probably 
would not have been a Catholic nor a Catholic priest! If the Portuguese didn't 
do a good job taking care of our well-being, they certainly did a good job in 
converting a number of us to Catholicism. The argument put forward by most 
Catholic Goans I speak to is that we were "forcibly" converted by the 
Portuguese but if they feel this way. I see no evidence of them rushing to 
re-convert back to their original religion. In fact, evidence shows that those 
of Goan origin in Goa and around the world who are Catholics are probably among 
the most devout on planet earth which has undoubtedly led to "someone up there" 
looking after us. That's our first precious "take-away" from the Portuguese - 
Catholicism.

Many Goans today probably feel the Portuguese did and are still looking after 
them, granting them their Portuguese Passport with which almost three entire 
villages from Goa have managed to uproot and move to Swindon, United Kingdom 
over the last few years and certainly another half a village from Goa has moved 
and is living near to me. How do I know this, for the first time in over 40 
years I can hear Konkani being spoken on the 250 red bus route. Exciting, as I 
can understand them but soon I will be able to respond in our mother tongue, 
watch this space. Therefore for many the second most important "take-away" from 
the Portuguese is their "Portuguese Passport". Roland Francis may have 
forgotten this, three entire villages from Goa have not moved near to him, yet.

The third most important "take-away" from the Portuguese is our national dish 
of "sorpotel". A friend of mine living in the USA for over 40 years said that 
there is one dish that she and her entire family must have (I repeat must have) 
on their Christmas table, that is "sorpotel". This dish was eaten by Portuguese 
peasants who brought it over to us, we added spices and soro to it so the dish 
was renamed "sorpotel" to reflect this. But the origins of this dish remain 
Portuguese.

Then comes Roland Francis's comment about Indians, let us all remind ourselves 
our Goan freedom fighters fought for us to be part of India, until of course we 
were.

Now our war cry appears to be "special status", "special status", "special 
status".

With the number of goanet postings on toilets, you would have thought someone 
in Goa would have done something about it by now. Never mind the public 
toilets, even when I have been for weddings in "posh" venues, I am disgusted to 
find there is no soap in the toilets. Apparently this is because soap goes 
missing but what is there for these "posh" places to improvise and fit in soap 
dispensers on the walls and fill them with soap liquid like we have in the 
United Kingdom, is this so hard for them to do. What about their kitchen staff, 
do they have access to soap, is this not a real health hazard when handling 
food.

Garbage lying around is much more of an environmental hazard than anything 
else. On my last visit to Goa in January, the situation appears to have gone 
much worse. Locals blame this on the foreign and local tourists or the 
Government! How about themselves, aren't they living there and shouldn't they 
take personal pride and responsibility for their own environment? 

Rationing of gas cylinders used for cooking, etc. Apparently new measures had 
to be introduced by the Government because the previous measures in place were 
not stringent enough to stop some locals "cashing in".

Finally, a gem of a story, at a high level meeting held in London once, don't 
know how it came about but one of our learned gentleman was talking about a 
solution to a particular problem, moving the Mandovi River! When we came home, 
puzzled, I asked Melvyn if there was more than one Mandovi River in Goa because 
the one I was thinking about would need a few billion perfect (not cracked) 
claypots to be filled up in order to be moved. 


Re: [Goanet] Roland Francis: Gulf Goans - Stray Thoughts of a Toronto Goan (Rose Fernandes)

2013-05-13 Thread Jose Colaco
My dear Rose,

My apologies for not having renamed the thread as you now have. It would have 
separated the threads appropriately.

When I tried in the past, my posts have been rejected by Hon. moderator ( often 
nameless ). So, I did not rename the thread (albeit partially), but used the 
opportunity to suggest to FN that he was being unfair and unreasonable in some 
of his actions. This, again, would not have been the first time FN has heard it 
from me nor would I have been the only person to say it to him.

That having been noted, I do have a number of points ( in your post ) to 
comment upon / seek clarification about from you. 

I will try do that later this evening when I am done with my daily Mazdoori and 
bread.. 

Your renaming of the original post will help readers to sift my response to you 
from the other responses.

Best of wishes for a great day.

jc



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On May 13, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Melvyn Fernandes  wrote:

> Trying to follow the FN and JC latest goanet fire thread proved tricky until 
> finally I gave in and read Roland Francis's "Gulf Goans - Stray Thoughts of a 
> Toronto Goan