Re: [Goanet] Section 377/reply to Kevin
Verrry interesting to know that homosexuals can produce progeny... so they can raise THEIR children! Cheers! Chris - Original Message - From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Section 377/reply to Kevin * G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. The question is, would you want to enact laws that prevent homosexual parents or single parents from raising children in their households? Cheers, Santosh --- Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My bias in this lies from the point of the child. A parent has to nurture a child not just through infancy but through adolescence and adulthood. The two genders in a traditional family each bring distinct dimensions into play. As an adult who is still very much a child to my parents, I relish the masculinity and femininity of my family. There are facets to my father which my mother could never emulate and vice versa. Every child has much to gain from the duality of the male and the female personae. Anyway, that's my two cents and it's probably worth even less :)) selma ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Section 377/reply to Kevin
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. The question is, would you want to enact laws that prevent homosexual parents or single parents from raising children in their households? Cheers, Santosh --- Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My bias in this lies from the point of the child. A parent has to nurture a child not just through infancy but through adolescence and adulthood. The two genders in a traditional family each bring distinct dimensions into play. As an adult who is still very much a child to my parents, I relish the masculinity and femininity of my family. There are facets to my father which my mother could never emulate and vice versa. Every child has much to gain from the duality of the male and the female personae. Anyway, that's my two cents and it's probably worth even less :)) selma ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Section 377/reply to Kevin
Dear Selma, Your two cents are worth much more than you think on this forum. The fact that you struggle with these decisions makes you more human than those pious souls who have all the answers in black or white. As we evolve, our opinions shift based on the knowledge we gain from experience and learning. Those who choose to refer to 2000 year old books for all their answers will either go to heaven or go extinct. (More on the death penalty later.) I, too, used to think that a child needed the mother and father role models to develop into a healthy adult but after witnessing the interactions within TWO same sex families, I have changed that opinion. I was genuinely amazed at how the male same-sex couple I know, with an adopted daughter, each modelled a different gender consistently. One of them was a typical 'mother-hen' making sure the daughter was dressed correctly, picking her up from school, helping her with teenage problems etc. while the other partner was more the 'Dad role' stricter with the discipline and made most of the decisions for the family, although 'Mom' did the finances. Granted, this is a personal observation but it changed my preconceptions of the family dynamics within a same-sex family. The roles were not as defined in the lesbian couple who had a daughter from a previous marriage of one of the partners. Both were 'Moms' although just from their interaction there was a definite difference in their personalities, one being quite decisive when it came to financial decisions, the other deferring to her and even asking every time a financial question came up. Both these couples are clients of mine. Aside from their parenting skills, gay couples make the best pet owners! They can empathize with their pets and project their maternal/paternal instincts onto their 'surrogate children' to follow all recommendations to keep them healthy. I think that mankind is generally an empathic being which is the basis for universal morality and necessary for social living and survival. However, there are deranged individuals who are loners and can survive in isolation but that is the exception. Similarly, there are exceptions wherin the ability to empathize has never developed either due to a physical injury, a chemical imbalance or a socializing problem as the child grew into an adolescent and eventually an adult who had no way of feeling his/her victim's suffering (whether physical or emotional). This has been studied in children who have fun pulling wings off or burning insects, grow into younsters who poke pencils into caged rodents and eventually have no qualms about setting a kitten on fire. In cases where these deranged individuals are a consistent danger to society, they need to be restricted - life time prison terms with programs to make them earn their keep as there would be no hope of rehabilitation. In other cases of 'crimes of passion' it has been well documented that emotions can run so strong as to overcome those natural inhibitions to commit serious injury and even death in some cases. However, do they deserve the 'eye for an eye' barbaric system of justice? The deterrent value of capital punishment has been refuted in many studies. It costs society much more to execute a convicted criminal than to incarcerate him/her for the rest of their lives. And since, in many cases, it is a neurological abberation that creates these monsters, are we justified in killing them to make us feel safer? I think not! Anyway, that's my $0.02Cdn for now. Kevin Saldanha Mississauga, ON. - From: Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:19:39 -0700 (PDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Section 377/reply to Kevin This is one of those issues I struggle with like the death penalty. I can see both sides of the argument. Anyway, that's my two cents and it's probably worth even less :)) selma mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Section 377/reply to Kevin
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Sheesh Kevin, While faghag made me sound cool, faghagginess just makes me sound like an unpalatable Scottish dish. :)) This is one of those issues I struggle with like the death penalty. I can see both sides of the argument. Society has experimented with quite a few ways to raise children. Boarding schools, at one point, were all the rage to instill discipline and structure into a child's life. We now know that boarding schools are not the optimal environment for a child. Orphanages, foster homes, single-parent homes, polygamous environments, communes, all manage to produce perfectly normal well-adjusted human beings. Even Romulus raised by wolves turned out pretty ok. Human are resilient that way. But, we also know these are not optimal environments for a child. I have no doubts that gay parents are as good a parent as any heterosexual parent. My bias in this lies from the point of the child. A parent has to nurture a child not just through infancy but through adolescence and adulthood. The two genders in a traditional family each bring distinct dimensions into play. As an adult who is still very much a child to my parents, I relish the masculinity and femininity of my family. There are facets to my father which my mother could never emulate and vice versa. Every child has much to gain from the duality of the male and the female personae. Anyway, that's my two cents and it's probably worth even less :)) selma -- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Selma, Your 'faghagginess' will need to be updated to include same-sex partners as excellent parents to completely normal, well adjusted, heterosexual children. In fact, single-parent heterosexuals have more trouble raising their children, which is obviously not an ideal family but becoming more prevalent and accepted than same-sex parenting. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
