[Goanet] Shiroda - where could it be ?
I don't think my comment has much bearing on Selma's question regarding Richard Burton. But just incidentally, P. P. Shirodkar, (there were two - the father was a freedom fighter and first Speaker of the Goa Assembly; the son was Director of Archives in Goa - but I could never figure out whether father or son actually made the following assertion) used to claim that he was originally from Serula, which he claimed was a corruption of Shiroda. The Serula Communidade, one of the largest, if not the largest in Goa comprises of Salvador-do-Mundo, Socorro and Porvorim. Augusto -- Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India E pinto...@gmail.com or ypinto...@yahoo.co.in P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350
Re: [Goanet] Shiroda - where could it be ?
Dear Antonio, Thank you so much for this wonderful information and slice of history as usual. Also Dr Teotonio and Anjali have confirmed that it is the same Shiroda. Anjali has done research into the habits and cultural moors of the area and confirms it is the same. Best regards as always, Selma --- On Sat, 6/13/09, Antonio Menezes wrote: > From: Antonio Menezes > Subject: [Goanet] Shiroda - where could it be ? > To: "goanet" > Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 10:09 PM > Selma ( June 11 ) asks : '' > Could anyone tell me if the Seroda that Richard > Burton > refers to in his book Goa and Blue Mountains is the same > Shiroda in the > outskirts > of Ponda ''' > > It could indeed be Shiroda that is about 10 kms south of > Ponda town on the > right > bank of the Zuari river opposite to Curtorim village of > Salcete taluka which > is on the > left bank of the same river. > > >From mid-sixteen to mid-eighteen centuries when > Portuguese Goa consisted of > > only three talukas i.e. Salcete, Ilhas and > Bardez, Zuari river formed the > eastern > boundary of southern Goa. According to oral > traditions Shiroda was and > still is > a temple town famous for the temple dedicated to Goddess > Kamakshi. > > In the temple area there were many matriarchal > families who rendered yeoman > > service to Portuguese unattached young soldiers who > were posted in the > riverine > or border villages from Guirdolim in the south to > Chicalim in the north of > Salcete > peninsula. These matriarchal families whose > daughters were very much > sought \ > after by the Portuguese soldiers crossed Zuari river > ( aum saiba poltodi > vetam ) > and settled down inthe Portuguese controlled areas. > Economically these > daughters were precious assets and thus we could say > the mestisso community > was born in Goa.. But they also took pride in their > sons. A typical > matriarch, > I believe, proudly boasted that her sons were sired by a > porbhu, komoti, > jyotyr etc. >
[Goanet] Shiroda - where could it be ?
Selma ( June 11 ) asks : '' Could anyone tell me if the Seroda that Richard Burton refers to in his book Goa and Blue Mountains is the same Shiroda in the outskirts of Ponda ''' It could indeed be Shiroda that is about 10 kms south of Ponda town on the right bank of the Zuari river opposite to Curtorim village of Salcete taluka which is on the left bank of the same river. >From mid-sixteen to mid-eighteen centuries when Portuguese Goa consisted of only three talukas i.e. Salcete, Ilhas and Bardez, Zuari river formed the eastern boundary of southern Goa. According to oral traditions Shiroda was and still is a temple town famous for the temple dedicated to Goddess Kamakshi. In the temple area there were many matriarchal families who rendered yeoman service to Portuguese unattached young soldiers who were posted in the riverine or border villages from Guirdolim in the south to Chicalim in the north of Salcete peninsula. These matriarchal families whose daughters were very much sought \ after by the Portuguese soldiers crossed Zuari river ( aum saiba poltodi vetam ) and settled down inthe Portuguese controlled areas. Economically these daughters were precious assets and thus we could say the mestisso community was born in Goa.. But they also took pride in their sons. A typical matriarch, I believe, proudly boasted that her sons were sired by a porbhu, komoti, jyotyr etc.
